1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Our tourism recovery appears to have stalled. A number of 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: overseas arrivals reached three point two million in the year 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: to June. That sounds good, but it's down seventeen percent 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: on pre pandemic peaks and still hovering it around eighty 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: percent of pre COVID levels for the year. It comes 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: at a time where visa chargers are going up in 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: the international visitor levy could rise by as much as 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: three times to one hundred dollars for many tourists outside 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: of Australia in the Pacific. Cath O'Brien's with the Board 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: of Airline Representatives is with us this morning. Cath, Good morning, 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: good morning. How do we compare? How does our recovery 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: post COVID compare to other countries? 13 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think you know, New Zealand's among those 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: countries that had its borders closed for longer, so we 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: are slower to recover. And you know, last time we 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: enjoyed a great sort of boom recovery from COVID and 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: saw a lot of travel, which is fantasy six, and 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: saw a lot of tourists returning to New Zealand. What 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: we're seeing now though, is that kind of recovery stop, 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: which is unusual in the world and unusual and Compton, 21 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, like unusual in that you know, we've we've 22 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 2: got other countries who would see tourism continue to grow 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: and New Zealand appears to be seeing tourism are numbers 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 2: kind of stalling, which is which makes us strange. Right 25 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: looking ahead to the summer twenty twenty four, so airlines 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: have planned their schedules and we can see that New 27 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: Zealand as a total country will receive just two percent 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: more services than we saw last year, which is far 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: less than we would love to see. So you know 30 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: that that is going to bring us to you a tourists, 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: and in a time that that's happening, you know, to 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: increase our visa costs so very deeply and so suddenly 33 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 2: is really counterproductive. 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: What is behind us, do you think? 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good question. New Zealand appears to 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: be losing market share, so so we seem to sort 37 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: of be losing the fight and being a great place 38 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: to go to. You know, there are other nature based 39 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: economies that offer far more inexpensive you know, holidays. You know, 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: I'm looking here at the likes of Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam. 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: You know, those economies are seeing some great, some great recoveries, 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: and noticably Vietnam has they're taking its visitor a rival 43 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: charge to zero to encourage that to happen at New Zealand. 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: Does that make a difference? Does that make a difference, 45 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: because we're obviously going to look at hiking us. Does 46 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: it actually stop people? 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it actually really does because it's the 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: total cost of the journey, and especially when New Zealand is, 49 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: you know, a really long way away often for many travelers, 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: a very expensive place to commit to coming to. In 51 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: any case, then that to add, you know, hundreds of 52 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: dollars of cost, and here we're seeing Jesus rise. A 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: visitor visa is now three hundred and forty one dollars 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: for an individual, and then what are we going to 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: add the international visitor leva at another one hundred dollars 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: on top of that, so four hundred and forty you 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 2: haven't even bought a ticket yet. 58 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kat, that's a really good point. Actually, gosh, it 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: sounds a bloody expensive, doesn't it when. 60 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: You put it like that? 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: Kat, Thank you for your time this morning. Cath O'Brien, 62 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: bord Aville Unrepresentatives. I can remember traveling around South America, 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: Central America, that kind of stuff when I was younger, 64 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: and the Galapagus Islands. I remember we had to pay 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: a one hundred dollars I think it was one hundred 66 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: US dollars visitor levy. But of course it's the Glaphicas Islands. 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: You know. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: You go there because David Edinburgh went there, you know, 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: and you want to see it all, so you just 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: pay it. For more from News Talks B listen live 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: on air or online and keep our shows with you 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio