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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talk said B start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, B.

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Speaker 3: Why tangy long weekend? Whoop woopy Old and New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Good morning. Welcome to news Dog's eDV. Jack Tam in

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Speaker 3: the hot seat with you through the midday today and

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Speaker 3: we have a stonking show. Good news is suns out

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Speaker 3: everywhere and we're getting you ready for the long weekend,

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Speaker 3: even if it wasn't a long weekend at your place.

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Speaker 3: Be fourteen o'clock this morning, fantastic tips from our cook

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Speaker 3: on how to prepare the perfect summer platter. She's got

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Speaker 3: a couple of little platter recipes that are a little

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Speaker 3: bit off Broadway but absolutely delicious and just a few

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Speaker 3: dos and don'ts if you're preparing a platter at your place.

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Speaker 3: As well as that our feature interview after ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning. Cannot wait for this. The jay Z and

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Speaker 3: Beyonce of New Zealand Theater are going to be live

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Speaker 3: in studio with us Jennifer Ward Leland and Michael Hurst

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Speaker 3: in studio as they prepare to take their Stonking sold

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Speaker 3: out show, in other words, from Auckland last year. They're

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Speaker 3: going to take it round the country on a nationwide tour,

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Speaker 3: so they'll be with us right after ten this morning.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it is eight minutes past nine. This is

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Speaker 3: going to come as a great surprise. But I am

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Speaker 3: very particular. I am a big believer that a tidy

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Speaker 3: Both of my televisions are mounted on the walls with

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Speaker 3: their tables hidden away. I use organizers to secrete my

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Speaker 3: stereo cords, and a cluttered bench top makes me feel

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Speaker 3: so unsettled that I insist on having nothing on it. Nothing,

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Speaker 3: absolutely nothing on my kitchen bench top. Our microwave is

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Speaker 3: hidden away in a cupboard, our toaster is hidden in

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Speaker 3: a drawer. And when it comes to electric gadgets, that's

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Speaker 3: as far as I'm prepared to go an air fryer.

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Speaker 3: You got to be kidding me. Despite my wife's protestations,

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Speaker 3: I still refuse to buy an electric kettle. Therefore, for

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Speaker 3: most of my adult life, I've been making coffee the

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Speaker 3: same way an Italian stove top number you know the ones,

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Speaker 3: a little Boletti. You sort of put the water in

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Speaker 3: the middle. You screw it together, put it on the

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Speaker 3: element and wait for the espresso to brew. It spits

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Speaker 3: out of the top shaft after about, I don't know,

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Speaker 3: five minutes and twelve seconds of steady heat. It makes

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Speaker 3: A rich black espresso cremma on the top. Ah. I

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Speaker 3: love the smell, I love the taste, and I love

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Speaker 3: the ritual. It's funny. I figure my Billette brew lands

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Speaker 3: me in that perfect middle ground between freeze dried instant

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Speaker 3: coffee and the in home espresso makers which have steadily

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Speaker 3: become ubiquitous in our kitchens. It's you know, it's coffee

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Speaker 3: for someone who cares about coffee, but it doesn't require

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Speaker 3: a gleaming chrome spaceship taking up four square meters on

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Speaker 3: the kitchen bench. But am I missing out? Truthfully? I

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Speaker 3: am starting to second guess myself. Last year, a family

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Speaker 3: member very generously offered to shout us a fancy espresso

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Speaker 3: you know. My parents got a machine a couple of

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Speaker 3: My sister has an even fancier new number and bruise

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Speaker 3: can see how the economics start to add up if

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Speaker 3: Rugby World Cup. To the best of my knowledge, only

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Speaker 3: one other person in my life has consistently made coffee

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Speaker 3: the same way as me, but as my brother, sheepishly

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Speaker 3: admitted to me last night, he's just ditched his Italian

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Speaker 3: stovetop for a big, fancy espresso maker he bought in

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's the cables on the bench top that puts

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Speaker 3: damn good. Jack tab ninety two, Am I missing a trick?

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Speaker 3: film to tell you about fourteen o'clock this morning. It's

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Speaker 3: a documentary following alien weaponry, alien weaponry, alien weaponry. Who

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Speaker 3: Tell you about that film very shortly, given Milne will

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Speaker 3: kick us off next right now, it's thirteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: It's white tonguey weekend. I'm Jack Tame and this is

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Speaker 5: It's no better way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Man with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and Bepeward

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Speaker 3: Z edb Jane says Jack Band News. You would absolutely

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Speaker 3: absolutely hate it at our place, Cables everywhere Jack. What

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Speaker 3: happens if someone pops over for a cup of tea? Look,

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Speaker 3: I do have a kettle, but it's just like a

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Speaker 3: kettle you'd seen Victorian England. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful object,

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Speaker 3: but it's one that you have to put on the element.

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Speaker 3: So you've got to fill it up with water and

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Speaker 3: takes like five or six minutes. I've actually got the

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Speaker 3: kettle's got one of the little whistles as well, So

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Speaker 3: they're saying, you know it's boiling. You see see deep down,

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Speaker 3: I'm actually just eighty five years old at heart. That's

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Speaker 3: the truth of the matter. Jack, life is about to change.

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Speaker 3: You will not have twelve minutes to watch water boil

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Speaker 3: very soon, says Karen, and Die agrees Jack. With a

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Speaker 3: baby on the way, you'll quickly discover hot water kettle's

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Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two. I'll get to more of those

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Speaker 6: Kyoto, Jack, if you're going to ask the same question

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Speaker 6: about the water joke. But now I see what you're doing.

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Speaker 6: It just it seems a waste of energy that you'd

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Speaker 3: I just I just don't like thet off an electric

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Speaker 3: I can hear how pretentious that sounds, and trust me,

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Speaker 3: and my wife was infuriated about the situation. But I've

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Speaker 3: like the process. And when you think about what why

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Speaker 3: to make a hot drink, and the hot drink is

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Speaker 3: usually there's something you like, you're kind of you're grounding yourself,

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Speaker 3: or you're relaxing, or you're starting the day. There's always

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Speaker 3: a kind of ritual or routine involved in that, isn't there?

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Speaker 3: So you know, maybe actually boiling the water going through

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Speaker 3: the process is a good thing.

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Speaker 3: stretching just a little bit. Come back to me in

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Speaker 3: twelve months and things can be very different at my place.

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Speaker 3: But speaking of making things easier at home, Kevin, you

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Speaker 3: have discovered this week that you are entitled to free

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Speaker 2: How come Jack?

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Speaker 6: Way back in the nineteen seventies, along with thousands of

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Speaker 6: the three month compulsory military This, it turns out, qualifies

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Speaker 6: qualifies me for what's called service membership of the RSA,

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Speaker 6: as opposed to returns membership for those who've served overseas

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Speaker 6: service membership, but I've discovered that because I did compulsory

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Speaker 6: military training before nineteen seventy four, it now qualifies me

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Speaker 6: for the Veteran's Independence Program VIP, which is free support

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Speaker 6: to remain independent in my own home.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to have any.

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Speaker 6: Military related conditions, and the VIP service is not means tested.

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Speaker 2: What does it offer? The RSA says the most popular

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Speaker 6: Are lawn mowing and gardening, gutter cleaning on the roof,

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Speaker 6: so I can get the toenail's Cutjack, house and path washing,

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Speaker 6: external window cleaning, and metal and smoke alarms. Don't be

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Speaker 6: a hero, the RSA says in its documents, I fall

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Speaker 6: I die. The question I'm asking myself Jack, is would

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Speaker 6: on any of this, given that I can afford to

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Speaker 6: mess at Burnham. How would you feel Jack, if the

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Speaker 6: mytonal's cut. Before I outrage all our listeners, let me

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Speaker 6: say I have no intention at the slage anyway of

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Speaker 6: con bulse me military training now thinking I amend at

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Speaker 6: this compulsory military training was a bloody nuisance. They can

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Speaker 6: come and cut the lawns for a few years.

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Speaker 3: So how long was your compulsory military training? Can you remember?

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Speaker 2: Three months? Three months? They passed.

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Speaker 6: A two week camp every week year after that for

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Speaker 6: three years.

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Speaker 3: It's not nothing. It's quite a big commitment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I didn't I didn't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I was to do it, yeah, And

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Speaker 2: and honestly it's kind of.

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Speaker 6: I just I just think that this compensation, at this

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Speaker 6: end of my life should only be available to return servicemen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. It does seem like it's a in

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Speaker 3: some ways that it's a generous offering. Although you know,

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Speaker 3: there are probably people who you know aren't necessarily in

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Speaker 3: as fortunate position as you. For him, it does make

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Speaker 3: a big difference given. But yeah, I think you're right.

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Speaker 6: I agree, I agree, but I still don't think that

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Speaker 2: Good on them.

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Speaker 6: But I think that the money you want to be

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Speaker 6: going to the people who have got injuries or other

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Speaker 6: other health issues who went out to fight the war

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Speaker 3: I'm with you when it comes to making coffee on

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Speaker 3: That's what I find Jack. Do not be corrupted, says

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Speaker 8: No, no, I don't have time to make around with

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Speaker 3: So how do you have a coffee in the morning?

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Speaker 3: How do you make.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I do enjoy purchasing the odd coffee out

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Speaker 7: Version or the electric kettle? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Do you say, do you say a juggling? I would

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Speaker 3: say almost say an electric jug? But then what I

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Speaker 3: Put the jug on, yeah, put the jug on?

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Speaker 7: But maybe different parts of the country.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm, and that's great news your ten sports.

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Speaker 8: That's the big, big question. Still costs a lot to

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Speaker 8: didn't want to pay, sort of traded him and flicked

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Speaker 3: but it saves all the fair thing about good coffee

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Speaker 3: I also recently considered buying a Flash Harry espresso machine,

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Speaker 3: stovetop espresso maker. So just know this weekend you are

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Speaker 3: the cool kids. We're there. A great day for it,

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Speaker 3: great conditions as well. The sound of lame Way been

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Speaker 3: blasted across the city. Fantastic to see. Right now, it's

436
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Speaker 3: twenty three minutes to ten on your Saturday morning, and

437
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Speaker 3: time to get your film pictures this weekend. Francisca Rudkin,

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Speaker 3: our film reviewer, is here with us this morning. Francisca,

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Speaker 3: before we dive into the films, have you seen the

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Speaker 3: new Jurassic Park trailer? No, I haven't, ah, I see,

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Speaker 3: I love it. I love the og Jurassic Park. Some

442
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Speaker 3: of the you know, I know, it's got like a

443
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Speaker 3: gazillion sequels these days. They've just done the in you know,

444
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Speaker 3: I can take a leave some of those sequels, but

445
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Speaker 3: they've just released a new one which has Scarlett Johansson,

446
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Speaker 3: isn't it and Jonathan Bailey who was in Wicked as well. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: they've only released it like last night. It's haid like

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Speaker 3: thirty minute.

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Speaker 7: Yeah box, I think yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does look good. I mean it looks Jurassic parky.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to give too much away, but I

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Speaker 3: think there are going to be people being chased by dinosaurs. Yeah,

453
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Speaker 3: only a hunt. Anyway, Let's talk about two films that

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Speaker 3: are out. We're not just waiting on their trailers's ever.

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Speaker 3: Listen first of all, to a new kind of horror

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Speaker 3: psychological film. This is presence.

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Speaker 10: You have a presence here.

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Speaker 11: It's trying to figure you out, it's trying to connect

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Speaker 11: to you.

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Speaker 10: I'm it's suffering just like you are.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's presence is definitely stripped back, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: So this is a film by Steven Soderberg, who I

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Speaker 13: really love. I can remember jacksoning the first film that

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Speaker 13: he released in nineteen eighty nine called Sex Lies and Video,

466
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Speaker 13: and I remember thinking at the time, oh, Okay, this

467
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Speaker 13: guy is really interesting. He's very open to finding quite

468
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Speaker 13: experimental ways to telling stories, and he's had an incredibly

469
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Speaker 13: prolific career. But you knew early on that he was

470
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Speaker 13: always going to be quite creative in the way he

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Speaker 13: told stories. And he's been a bit of a renegade

472
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Speaker 13: throughout his career as well, really sort of rallying against

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Speaker 13: the studio system, even though he's also very much been

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Speaker 13: part of it. You know, he was behind the Oceans

475
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Speaker 13: of Eleven and Magic Mic franchises. So he's kind of

476
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Speaker 13: fluctuated throughout his career of art house and interesting and unique,

477
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Speaker 13: and then also been able to put together an incredibly

478
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Speaker 13: entertaining and fun mainstream film. In twenty twelve he retired.

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Speaker 13: He said, I'm done. I am done with Hollywood. Hollywood

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Speaker 13: treats directors, the Hollywood system treats directors really badly. Movies

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Speaker 13: don't matter anymore. All the creativity is within TV. And

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Speaker 13: actually I think we'd all agree. You know, television has

483
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Speaker 13: become you know, you'll see all the stars starring in

484
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Speaker 13: TV shows, you know who would once upon a time

485
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Speaker 13: only never done films. So he did have a point there,

486
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Speaker 13: but he couldn't help him south and he started making

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Speaker 13: films again in twenty sixteen, and I'm pleased he has.

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Speaker 13: But this presence is being touted as an art house

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Speaker 13: horror film.

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Speaker 14: But it's not scary, it's not.

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Speaker 13: It's more sort of gently unnerving, I would say, as

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Speaker 13: a bit of a psychological horror. And when it when

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Speaker 13: it begins the you immediately notice that, yes, once again,

494
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Speaker 13: he's taken quite a creative approach to telling this story

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Speaker 13: about a family, dysfunctional family falling apart. The camera floats

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Speaker 13: and it looks quite low fig and quite simplistic, and

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Speaker 13: the entire film is set within one location, within a house,

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Speaker 13: a family home, and the gimmick behind this is that

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Speaker 13: this camera, which floats in and out of rooms and

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Speaker 13: a sort of part of the conversation things, is actually

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Speaker 13: the fifth character. It is a ghost. It is a

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Speaker 13: presence which is watching this family. So we watch this

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Speaker 13: family unravel from this ghost who occasionally also interferes in

504
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Speaker 13: their life but also sort of stands back in things.

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Speaker 13: It's quite a clear idea. I didn't think the script

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Speaker 13: was as sharp as it could have been, and I

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Speaker 13: think it relies too much on a shock ending to

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Speaker 13: kind of draw you in, which is.

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Speaker 14: A little bit late.

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Speaker 13: But what, as I say, always worth taking a look

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Speaker 13: at Stephen Soderberg film because he just does things a

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Speaker 13: little bit differently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way. That's the thing. It sounds interesting

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Speaker 3: at the very least.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's called Presence. That's out now. Next up,

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Speaker 3: something completely different. Let's have listened to Alien Weaponry Quotada.

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Speaker 15: They're going to be playing at the biggest metal festival

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Speaker 15: in the world.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure I'll cry.

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Speaker 10: Heavy metal band makes mum cry.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, the album's had over a million strength number one.

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Speaker 4: Museum and.

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Speaker 3: The Hills are alive with the sound of music.

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Speaker 5: But not as you know.

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Speaker 3: This is a new Zealand documentary Alien Weaponrytiata tell us

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 13: I love this documentary. I am not into thrash metal jack.

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Speaker 13: That may come as a surprise to you. It's not

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Speaker 13: a genre I listen to very often. So I think

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Speaker 13: when you find yourself fully absorbed in a documentary about

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Speaker 13: a fresh a thrash metal band, it tells you that

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Speaker 13: it's a great documentary, this with a good story to tell.

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Speaker 13: And this follows these two Northland brothers, Henry and Lewis

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Speaker 13: Deong and.

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Speaker 14: They are probably.

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Speaker 13: At present one of our biggest New Zealand bands.

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Speaker 3: Really, they are definitely massive.

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Speaker 13: And they became massive when they were just sixteen and

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Speaker 13: eighteen years old. And we follow them when they're pretty

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Speaker 13: much well one of them had been to Australia, but

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Speaker 13: they're really leaving New Zealand for the first time and

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Speaker 13: they're heading off to Europe to perform in the biggest

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Speaker 13: metal festivals in the world World Metal Days, and they

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Speaker 13: appear at Varkin and things, and they go off on

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Speaker 13: this three month trip and we in a way it's

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Speaker 13: a coming.

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Speaker 5: Of age story.

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Speaker 13: So we watch these two brothers who are not ordinary teenagers,

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Speaker 13: they are quite extraordinary musicians. Who are becoming huge Weld famous.

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Speaker 13: But we watch them go on this first tour and

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Speaker 13: you know, they go through the drama of one of

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Speaker 13: their Ethan, their sort of third bandmate, decides that this

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Speaker 13: life for him at such a young age isn't quite

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Speaker 13: right and he leaves and we watch, you know, his

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Speaker 13: parents are with him, who are amazingly supportive, but they're

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Speaker 13: trying to juggle that whole act of being very protective

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Speaker 13: and nurturing their kids. They're managing them and helping them,

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Speaker 13: but also and you know, trying to protect them in

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Speaker 13: this very adult world, but also aware of the fact

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Speaker 13: that they are growing up and they're going to need

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Speaker 13: to make their own decisions and they're going to need

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Speaker 13: to step back. So it's this film about family and

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Speaker 13: these two siblings. There's some there's some hilarious They probably

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Speaker 13: don't the hilarious scenes of the two of them sort

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Speaker 13: of rung about nothing, just as only siblings can. So

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Speaker 13: they capture all this, and they capture the pressure that

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Speaker 13: they're under, not just you know, as siblings, but they're

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Speaker 13: in business together. This is their careers. They take it

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Speaker 13: really seriously. They work really hard, So it's not just

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Speaker 13: about family. It's about this band who's singing to now,

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Speaker 13: who are taking sort of Mari culture of the world

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Speaker 13: and it has been you know, lapped up. It's about

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Speaker 13: them dealing with the success at such a young age.

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Speaker 13: It's about looking at their work ethic. It's it really

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Speaker 13: is fabulous. I really enjoyed this film. You've probably you've

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Speaker 13: probably never heard of this band, but they are potentially

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Speaker 13: going to be one of our biggest exports ever. So

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Speaker 13: I would say, even if you don't like metal at

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Speaker 13: some point, try and cats on cinemas, but try and

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Speaker 13: capture this film and so that you know in the

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Speaker 13: future you will be able to But I know all

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Speaker 13: about them, and I just want to say one thing

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Speaker 13: very quickly. This weekend there's probably a whole lot of

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Speaker 13: parents who are traveling the country, slightly emotional taking their

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Speaker 13: children to university and getting putting them into halls and things.

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Speaker 13: And there was a lovely line at the end of

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Speaker 13: the film at one of the boys twenty first we

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Speaker 13: get her Deyong, the boy's mum. She stands up to

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Speaker 13: give a speech and she says at the beginning of

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Speaker 13: the speech, she says, you know, as a parent, it's

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Speaker 13: my job to give my children roots and then it's

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Speaker 13: my job to give them wings. And I just want

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Speaker 13: to leave that with all the emotional parents out there

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Speaker 13: who are very upset about losing losing a child.

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Speaker 3: Lovely at our house, yeah.

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Speaker 13: Jack, and she gave me great solace. I thought, I'm

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Speaker 13: taking that. There you go, off, you go.

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Speaker 3: That's so lovely. That is really lovely. Yeah, hey, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So that's alien Weaponry Court Tukutiata. That is a Kiwi documentary.

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Speaker 3: Francesca's first film is Presence and both of those will

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Speaker 3: of course be on the NEWSTALKSZ'DB website.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Ta keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 3: you just fancy a nice weekend sitting on the couch

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Speaker 3: after ten o'clock this morning, If those film picks men

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Speaker 3: enough to pique your interest, I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 3: about the brand new series from Miriam Margalis. Miriam Marghli's

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand. You know how she did the thing

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Speaker 3: in Australia and it's just so so good. She's such

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Speaker 3: a character. Tomorrow is the first episode of Mariam Marghlei's

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Speaker 3: in New Zealand, so I'm going to give you all

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Speaker 3: the details on where you can see that after ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock this morning. Right now, though, it's time to catch

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Speaker 3: up with our cook Nicki Wicks, who is celebrating the

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Speaker 3: long White tonguey weekend more dinner.

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Speaker 14: Yes, for many people, I think they took Friday off.

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Speaker 14: So this weekend just keeps giving and giving and giving.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: It does. It's very much a you know, a kind

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Speaker 3: of a barbecue weekend, like Francisca was saying, it's a

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Speaker 3: weekend where lots of university students are heading off a

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Speaker 3: bit of a weekend to socialize, I think as well.

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Speaker 3: And the weather is looking pretty good all over the place.

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Speaker 3: So this morning you have your top tips on absolutely

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Speaker 3: nailing a platter.

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Speaker 14: A platter. Look, I love a pleatter so much. They did.

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Speaker 14: Used to be called cheeseboards, but now everyone throws everything

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Speaker 14: at them. And in fact, for a while there we

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Speaker 14: had this phase of grazing platters.

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Speaker 3: Did you mention to well, I saw that it was

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Speaker 3: a trend because everyone was daunting. Yeah, everyone put some

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Speaker 3: of these ridiculous. It sort of looks like a dare

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Speaker 3: I say, like a like a sort of Roman orgy

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Speaker 3: or something. It's ridiculous, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 3: these absolutely ridiculous kind of spreads of things. They do

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Speaker 3: look very attractive on Instagram and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: And you know you yeah, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 14: And yes, and when you just said that that they

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Speaker 14: reminded you of something Roman I thought of. Yes, there's

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Speaker 14: never enough space on the thread, so it all becomes

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Speaker 14: a bit of a train wreck in the end.

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Speaker 9: So I like to.

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Speaker 14: Keep things really simple and don't be daunted by what

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Speaker 14: you're seeing online. I'm honestly about the fact that I

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Speaker 14: don't think people should throw everything out them That's my

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Speaker 14: first tip, and my second biggest tip really is to

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Speaker 14: don't just buy all the stuff from the Dolli section,

651
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Speaker 14: because then anyone can do that actually makes some things

652
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Speaker 14: for your platter, because that truly elevates them and makes

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Speaker 14: them feel very personalized, and you'll really have people saying, oh,

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Speaker 14: distinguishes it does, rather than just cracking open the dips

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Speaker 14: or cracking open some Dolly meats or something like that.

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Speaker 14: So look, this week, I have got First of all,

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Speaker 14: I think you should have a balance of sweet, salty,

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Speaker 14: all that sort of thing on your platter. So I've

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Speaker 14: got roasted grapes on mine, and I'm really going to

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Speaker 14: encourage people to try this. Grapes are so absolutely fantastic

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Speaker 14: because they last forever in the fridge. I discovered when

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Speaker 14: I did a job for some grapes people earlier on

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Speaker 14: this year. I mean literally six weeks later, I still

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Speaker 14: had grapes. They were slightly shriveled. So through them in

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Speaker 14: the oven on say one to eighty degrees, and just

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Speaker 14: make sure that they're brushed with a little bit of oil.

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Speaker 14: You can then sprinkle them with a little bit of salt,

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Speaker 14: and I see salts gray and then they just go

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Speaker 14: in on a line lines train and cook for about

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Speaker 14: twenty to thirty minutes jack and they just become sort

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Speaker 14: of jammy and caramelized and roasted. They're beautiful. Sprinkle over

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Speaker 14: a little bit of thyme or rosemar if you want

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Speaker 14: to do that, and then when they come out, really

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Speaker 14: great to drizzle over a little bit of honey as well,

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Speaker 14: so that sweet kind of salty thing going on, and

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Speaker 14: they're so good on a cracker with some blue cheese

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Speaker 14: or something you won't know yourself. And whenever I do this,

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Speaker 14: you know, with the rose grapes, people are always saying,

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Speaker 14: oh my god, these are amazing, and they're so simple

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Speaker 14: it's embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think i've either. I don't think I've

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Speaker 3: ever eaten roasted grape. Oh maybe like weirdly, maybe in

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Speaker 3: like a chicken dish or something, you know, like and

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Speaker 3: like Morocco or something. Yeah, vetnameat h yeah, or.

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Speaker 14: Even Vietnam does a lot of Actually, there's a beautiful

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Speaker 14: or is it a tie curry? A red tie curry

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Speaker 14: often ares big red grapes in it, and that's fantastic.

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Speaker 14: So there you guys, I really they go, they go,

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Speaker 14: well caught. My second, my second very you know quick

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Speaker 14: dip is it's a smoked salmon dip.

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Speaker 16: But you know, in these.

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Speaker 14: Austere times, there's no way I'm buying smoked salmon to

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Speaker 14: put with cream cheese. So what I do is I

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Speaker 14: buy a tin of smoked salmon. So I don't just

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Speaker 14: mean a tin of salmon jack. If you look closely,

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Speaker 14: some of them are naturally smoked. And if you throw

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Speaker 14: that in with some cream cheese. So drain the tin

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Speaker 14: a little bit if you need to, of salmon, and

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Speaker 14: then one hundred and fifty grams of cream cheese, two

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Speaker 14: tablespoons of finely chopped chives or parsley or whatever you

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Speaker 14: could use, a really decent squeeze of lemon juice. Throw

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Speaker 14: it all in a food processor and you've no idea.

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Speaker 14: It just is so smoky and fantastic, and nobody will

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Speaker 14: know that you did not use old raki smoked salmon.

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Speaker 3: And it's so fancy, like I say, when you do

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Speaker 3: it yourself at this extra kind of dynamic. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: that's fantastic. I know You've got one more. You've got

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Speaker 3: one more for us, a baked breeze. So what I'm

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Speaker 3: going to do is I'm going to put that one

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Speaker 3: on the news talks HEB website news talks heb dot

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Speaker 3: co dot nz, alongside your cheets, smoked salmon and chiveed

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Speaker 3: dip and those roasted grapes, which sounds superb. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much, Nicki. We will catch again next week. Nicki

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Speaker 3: wicks our cook there right now at seven to ten.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to us.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and vpure dot co dot

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Speaker 3: I'd be We have had so many text and emails

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Speaker 3: this hour regarding coffee machines. Should you or shouldn't you

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Speaker 3: buy one of the big fancy espresso machines. Yes, it's

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Speaker 3: a bit of clutter on the kitchen bench, but it

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Speaker 3: does make coffee that's beautiful. These days, Jane says Jack.

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Speaker 3: During the working week, I have one coffee a day.

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Speaker 3: When the price hit five bucks though at my local cafe,

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Speaker 3: I decided I was not prepared to pay thirty five

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Speaker 3: dollars a week. Well, it's just twenty five dollars a

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Speaker 3: week if you're working five days, Jane. But knowing you,

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Speaker 3: you're a hard worker. Anyway, I bought a discreet, little

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Speaker 3: in espresso machine, she says, and I absolutely love it.

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Speaker 3: Consistent flavorful coffee every time, having purchased Cafe Coffee in

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Speaker 3: eighteen months and have saved heaps while enjoying my morning brew.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Jane, appreciate that. Ninety two ninety

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Speaker 3: two If you want to send us a message this

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Speaker 3: morning Jacket News Talks. He dot cod on in zed

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Speaker 3: right after the ten o'clock news. Cannot wait for this.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's Theater Royalty, the JANEB, jay Z and Beyonce

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand Theater. We've decided they are this morning.

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Speaker 3: Jennifer Ward Leland and Michael Hurst are going to be

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Speaker 3: with us. They had this amazing show and other words

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Speaker 3: that were sold out during its Auckland season last year.

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Speaker 3: Now great news if you're in a different part of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. They're going to be taking it on the

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Speaker 3: road throughout altat or So. They're going to be with

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Speaker 3: us right after the ten am news. It's almost ten o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Though it is Saturday morning. It is whiteangy Weekend twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five. I'm Jack Tame News is next on Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 3: EDB and a good morning you were Jack taimone New Storks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be through the midday. Jennifer Ward Leland and Michael

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Speaker 3: Hurst have acting resumes that range from pimps to politicians.

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Speaker 3: The animated version. It's a good thing, guys, It's not

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Speaker 3: a bad thing. Yeah, yeah, I should have said politicians

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Speaker 3: to pimps. I'm not sure which is better or worse.

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Speaker 3: Two animated versions of Buzzy b They've been a countless

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Speaker 3: productions together, but it had never been just the two

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Speaker 3: of them on stage until their most recent stage work

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Speaker 3: In other Words. In the show, Jennifer and Michael play

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Speaker 3: a married couple dealing with the onset of Alzheimer's. It

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Speaker 3: had a sold out run in Auckland last year, a

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Speaker 3: massive response and fantastic news. Jennifer and Michael are now

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Speaker 3: taking in other Words nationwide and they are with us

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Speaker 3: in person in studio this morning. Held accord to it

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Speaker 3: great to see. It is a great pleasure to be

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Speaker 3: speaking with you. And like I say, I know when

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Speaker 3: Other Words showed at Q Theater in Auckland, there was

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Speaker 3: just a huge response, sold out shows everywhere, So people

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Speaker 3: are going to be delighted to know that it's going

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Speaker 3: on the road.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we're really thrilled to be doing this. I think

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Speaker 12: it was one of the when I say, the naisiest audience,

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Speaker 12: So I mean that in the very best way, because

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Speaker 12: while we were performing, we were often hearing them going yep, yes, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 12: because I don't think there's one new Zealander who hasn't

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Speaker 12: had well, it would be rare to find a new

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Speaker 12: Zealander who hasn't had some connection in some way to

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Speaker 12: some either member of their FARO or friends or friends

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Speaker 12: of friends who've experienced dementia in and.

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Speaker 3: This is the thing because it's in some respects it's

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Speaker 3: a heavy subject, but in other respects, like it strikes

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Speaker 3: me that it is kind of this weird sort of

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Speaker 3: taboo in that it feels like given the impact it

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Speaker 3: has on people's lives, and like you say, kind of

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Speaker 3: everyone's lives, including mine and including yours. I'm sure we're

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Speaker 3: not we kind of don't confront it, maybe as you

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Speaker 3: might think.

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Speaker 17: I wouldn't call it it is a it is kind

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Speaker 17: of a sad or this play isn't like that.

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Speaker 16: It's it's certainly, but it's.

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Speaker 17: Levity and uplifting and human condition and caring and all

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Speaker 17: of those things and music, so all of those things

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Speaker 17: which are part of the dealing of it.

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Speaker 12: Yes, but I think what you're you're right there, Jack,

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Speaker 12: in that what is unspoken, I think is the work

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Speaker 12: of the caregivers quiet one. And we don't hear about

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Speaker 12: that much, and that's that's often the loved one, the

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Speaker 12: partner who's actually bearing the brunt of that muhy, which

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Speaker 12: is unpaid, yeah, most of the time, unless somebody has

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Speaker 12: got to the stage where they need to be in

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Speaker 12: care demension in it or something like that. So for

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Speaker 12: this couple, Jane and Arthur, of course, you know, they've

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Speaker 12: been together a long time, they know each other well,

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Speaker 12: and then Michael's character starts developing these symptoms and you know,

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Speaker 12: you you sort of brush it off with, oh, it's

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Speaker 12: just you know, old age, you know, forgetfulness, all of

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Speaker 12: those kind of things, until finally they get a diagnosis.

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Speaker 12: The beautiful thing about the players we step out of ours.

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Speaker 12: The characters kind of step out of the scenes and

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Speaker 12: talk directly to the audience saying things like, you know,

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Speaker 12: I didn't know what was wrong. I thought he thought

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Speaker 12: he had the flu.

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Speaker 16: I thought I had the flu.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know, it's very much like that.

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Speaker 12: So I think the audience feel very brought into the whole,

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Speaker 12: very included in the whole production.

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Speaker 17: And also that does work as a sort of a

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Speaker 17: left out from the real, you know, the.

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Speaker 16: Tough stuff of what it is.

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Speaker 12: And you can, and I know people experience when their

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Speaker 12: loved ones have has dementia. There are all sorts of

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Speaker 12: different kinds, we know that. And sometimes you can have

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Speaker 12: a complete personality change, getting aggressive, sometimes it's very sweet,

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Speaker 12: just confused, all of those things. And this play kind

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Speaker 12: of shows all of those things in a very tight

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Speaker 12: sort of just over an hour of performance. And it's

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Speaker 12: a really incredibly satisfying to perform. And as I said before,

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Speaker 12: the feedback that we've had from people has been really

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Speaker 12: really humbling. So it's a really humbling play to do.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's not often that you you think

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Speaker 3: about audiences literally verbally agreeing yeah, exactly with the performance.

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Speaker 12: Yes, And I've had women after, you know, waiting for

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Speaker 12: me after the show saying, I'm you know, character is

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Speaker 12: me right now, and I'll just give them a hug,

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Speaker 12: because boy, it must be tough.

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Speaker 3: Were you surprised by them, Michael, not so much surprise.

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Speaker 17: Well, you know, you like it when people react in

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Speaker 17: an audience because if they're listening, reactioning, reacting is good,

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Speaker 17: you know, in this you know, I mean in a way,

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Speaker 17: I'd be surprised now if they didn't the one you know,

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Speaker 17: I'd say something like, so I went to the shops

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Speaker 17: to buy the the the the the items, and and

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Speaker 17: you'd hear people go because they know this is a

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Speaker 17: little start, so it becomes an organic part of the performance.

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Speaker 16: Actually, I think.

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Speaker 3: Has it made you? Has it made you reconsider your

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Speaker 3: own kind of views on Alzheimer's and dementia at all?

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Speaker 3: If you go to the store, Absolutely, you examined it.

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Speaker 16: I have found I've been examining everything.

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Speaker 17: And then you know, like as Jennifer said, you go, oh, no,

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Speaker 17: it's just it's just I remember all sorts of lines.

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Speaker 16: It's just me getting older. And then you go, what

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Speaker 16: is that word?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 16: Leave until I've got the word?

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Speaker 12: Or and I think you know that. One of the

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Speaker 12: other interesting things about actually learning the words was.

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Speaker 16: In the script.

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Speaker 12: Learning the script is in one particular scene, they are

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Speaker 12: talking at cross purpose because what he's hearing is not

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Speaker 12: what I'm saying. And that was really tricky to learn.

862
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Speaker 12: And we're, you know, quite good swats learning. We're been

863
00:45:15,093 --> 00:45:16,893
Speaker 12: doing it for a long time. And you know, you

864
00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:18,933
Speaker 12: have to download a book into your head and then

865
00:45:19,093 --> 00:45:20,733
Speaker 12: the next play comes along, you get rid of that

866
00:45:20,813 --> 00:45:23,493
Speaker 12: book and down with the next one, But with this one,

867
00:45:23,533 --> 00:45:25,573
Speaker 12: I was going, why is this so hard? And I

868
00:45:25,613 --> 00:45:29,373
Speaker 12: realized it's because there was no natural purposely in the script.

869
00:45:29,373 --> 00:45:30,973
Speaker 12: There was no natural follow on.

870
00:45:30,973 --> 00:45:33,613
Speaker 16: There was no you know you were connections.

871
00:45:33,933 --> 00:45:37,253
Speaker 12: The connections were so different because these people are connecting

872
00:45:37,293 --> 00:45:41,693
Speaker 12: differently but woven through. And why the play is called

873
00:45:41,773 --> 00:45:44,453
Speaker 12: in other words, of course, is the music of Frank

874
00:45:44,493 --> 00:45:48,853
Speaker 12: Sinatra and this couple meet over one particular song and

875
00:45:48,893 --> 00:45:52,333
Speaker 12: have that zing in one particular song. So every time

876
00:45:52,413 --> 00:45:53,693
Speaker 12: that things get bad.

877
00:45:54,373 --> 00:45:58,253
Speaker 16: Or Arthur is sis or something.

878
00:45:58,053 --> 00:46:02,013
Speaker 12: Having an episode, the music exactly attached and it brings

879
00:46:02,053 --> 00:46:06,093
Speaker 12: them back to love to each other. So ultimately it's

880
00:46:06,533 --> 00:46:09,853
Speaker 12: full of love and hope in what is a very

881
00:46:10,093 --> 00:46:12,653
Speaker 12: long goodbye. I think this disease.

882
00:46:13,893 --> 00:46:17,693
Speaker 3: I'm sure everyone always says, oh, what's performing together? So

883
00:46:17,773 --> 00:46:20,533
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go there. It's a question, well

884
00:46:20,533 --> 00:46:23,653
Speaker 3: give it get instead. What is the best thing about

885
00:46:24,013 --> 00:46:25,893
Speaker 3: performing together and what is the hardest thing?

886
00:46:27,013 --> 00:46:29,333
Speaker 12: The best thing is that we have an innate trust

887
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:33,133
Speaker 12: with each other as performers. We trained in a similar way.

888
00:46:33,413 --> 00:46:38,333
Speaker 12: We have a shorthand we can dissect things if they're

889
00:46:38,373 --> 00:46:41,453
Speaker 12: not working, and we can fix it pretty quickly. And

890
00:46:41,533 --> 00:46:43,853
Speaker 12: I think he's a great actor, so that's the best

891
00:46:43,853 --> 00:46:44,533
Speaker 12: thing for me.

892
00:46:44,693 --> 00:46:46,333
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, I'd agree with most of that. I

893
00:46:46,333 --> 00:46:51,733
Speaker 16: am a great.

894
00:46:51,053 --> 00:46:51,173
Speaker 7: One.

895
00:46:51,253 --> 00:46:53,053
Speaker 17: Good thing about this one, though, is because of the

896
00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:55,973
Speaker 17: nature of the couple, you know, habits of a long relationship.

897
00:46:56,733 --> 00:47:02,213
Speaker 17: It's funny to be on stage and be behaving in

898
00:47:02,253 --> 00:47:05,333
Speaker 17: a way that you behaving at home, Like what do

899
00:47:05,333 --> 00:47:07,653
Speaker 17: you mean just to questioning like we normally did you

900
00:47:07,853 --> 00:47:09,053
Speaker 17: pay the bill at the bank?

901
00:47:09,173 --> 00:47:09,573
Speaker 16: Heh God?

902
00:47:09,573 --> 00:47:12,173
Speaker 12: I did that aligned to him at home when we

903
00:47:12,173 --> 00:47:15,413
Speaker 12: were rehearsing, and he thought it was real, And I said,

904
00:47:15,453 --> 00:47:16,053
Speaker 12: did you pay that?

905
00:47:16,413 --> 00:47:16,733
Speaker 5: You know that?

906
00:47:16,813 --> 00:47:17,893
Speaker 12: Did you talk to the bank about that?

907
00:47:17,933 --> 00:47:20,733
Speaker 3: But we don't break out. I was doing exactly what

908
00:47:20,813 --> 00:47:21,533
Speaker 3: I do in the play.

909
00:47:21,653 --> 00:47:24,653
Speaker 16: So that's I guess difficulty. I'm not sure if there

910
00:47:24,733 --> 00:47:28,333
Speaker 16: is a difficult thing particularly. I mean, you're a bit bossing.

911
00:47:28,373 --> 00:47:31,053
Speaker 16: But apart from that, you know.

912
00:47:31,053 --> 00:47:34,133
Speaker 3: What about if you're like what about if you in

913
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:36,453
Speaker 3: real life like grumpy at each other or something, and

914
00:47:36,493 --> 00:47:37,613
Speaker 3: then you would never bring.

915
00:47:37,453 --> 00:47:38,093
Speaker 12: That on the stage.

916
00:47:38,213 --> 00:47:40,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, no, no, of course not. But there must

917
00:47:40,973 --> 00:47:41,413
Speaker 3: be something.

918
00:47:42,933 --> 00:47:43,533
Speaker 18: Is that hard?

919
00:47:43,653 --> 00:47:45,693
Speaker 12: I think No, Look, I think the whole discipline of

920
00:47:45,693 --> 00:47:47,293
Speaker 12: when you arrive in the theater and you do your

921
00:47:47,653 --> 00:47:50,013
Speaker 12: you do your vocal warm up in your physical warm up,

922
00:47:50,053 --> 00:47:52,973
Speaker 12: and you get into your costume and do your hair

923
00:47:52,973 --> 00:47:56,093
Speaker 12: and makeup and stuff. All of that is leading to

924
00:47:56,173 --> 00:47:57,213
Speaker 12: your work on the stage.

925
00:47:57,253 --> 00:47:59,533
Speaker 3: It's like a compartment. Absolutely.

926
00:48:00,973 --> 00:48:03,093
Speaker 17: You know, if we were grumpy, and I'm not sure

927
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:05,533
Speaker 17: that we have been particularly grumpy in this play, but

928
00:48:05,573 --> 00:48:08,013
Speaker 17: if we were you and say, look, one of us

929
00:48:08,053 --> 00:48:11,813
Speaker 17: would go, let's just get it. Acknowledge that and use

930
00:48:11,853 --> 00:48:14,693
Speaker 17: that as too, because we know that going on stage

931
00:48:15,013 --> 00:48:16,773
Speaker 17: was a pulman if he used to say, you've got

932
00:48:16,813 --> 00:48:18,613
Speaker 17: to get rid of the stink of the streets before

933
00:48:18,653 --> 00:48:21,893
Speaker 17: you go on to the stage, because you know, the

934
00:48:21,933 --> 00:48:24,013
Speaker 17: audience don't want to pay for They're not paying for that,

935
00:48:24,053 --> 00:48:25,173
Speaker 17: they're paying for what you do.

936
00:48:25,253 --> 00:48:27,933
Speaker 12: Of course, yes, specific, and I also think we'ld be

937
00:48:27,973 --> 00:48:30,973
Speaker 12: kind of unprofessional to even doing that behavior before you

938
00:48:31,053 --> 00:48:35,453
Speaker 12: went on stage normally stay, yes, yes, I'm going I'm

939
00:48:35,493 --> 00:48:36,973
Speaker 12: going to throw you a bad queue.

940
00:48:37,133 --> 00:48:39,653
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to be late in that queue.

941
00:48:39,773 --> 00:48:40,013
Speaker 4: Yeah.

942
00:48:40,253 --> 00:48:44,133
Speaker 12: No, But but people do ask us in forums about

943
00:48:44,213 --> 00:48:47,693
Speaker 12: how we can leave that the emotion of the piece,

944
00:48:49,013 --> 00:48:51,053
Speaker 12: how we can just go home and be normal, And

945
00:48:51,133 --> 00:48:53,413
Speaker 12: actually we're very good at that. And I think it's

946
00:48:53,893 --> 00:48:56,293
Speaker 12: I think we're quite robust actors and that we've been

947
00:48:56,293 --> 00:48:58,533
Speaker 12: doing that for many years. And so you do your work,

948
00:48:58,533 --> 00:49:02,013
Speaker 12: you leave it where it belongs, and then we can

949
00:49:02,093 --> 00:49:04,773
Speaker 12: pretty quickly, as I said, leave the stage and talk about,

950
00:49:04,773 --> 00:49:06,213
Speaker 12: oh we need to fix that or do this.

951
00:49:06,413 --> 00:49:08,853
Speaker 3: So it doesn't make it harder to disconnect, because that

952
00:49:08,933 --> 00:49:11,693
Speaker 3: was my other question, like, you finish the finished performance

953
00:49:11,693 --> 00:49:14,693
Speaker 3: for the night, and whereas usually you might go home

954
00:49:14,733 --> 00:49:17,933
Speaker 3: and you know, and one of you has been performing, say,

955
00:49:18,133 --> 00:49:19,813
Speaker 3: and the other one hasn't, and you can go, Okay,

956
00:49:19,853 --> 00:49:21,893
Speaker 3: well you know he's haws you day blah blah blah.

957
00:49:21,933 --> 00:49:24,253
Speaker 3: When you both head exact the same kind of experience,

958
00:49:24,293 --> 00:49:25,773
Speaker 3: it's not harder to get in the car and then

959
00:49:25,933 --> 00:49:26,373
Speaker 3: think about it.

960
00:49:26,373 --> 00:49:29,213
Speaker 17: I think it's pretty quick for us, you know, and

961
00:49:29,253 --> 00:49:33,133
Speaker 17: also remember we have gone through it and gotten rid

962
00:49:33,173 --> 00:49:36,733
Speaker 17: of the the way right literally. I mean I often

963
00:49:36,773 --> 00:49:40,533
Speaker 17: think about it about the kind of therapy nature of

964
00:49:40,533 --> 00:49:42,173
Speaker 17: all If I think of all the things I've had

965
00:49:42,213 --> 00:49:45,133
Speaker 17: to go through, all the deaths, all the times I've

966
00:49:45,293 --> 00:49:48,653
Speaker 17: literally been killed on stage, stabbed, strangled, beaten to death,

967
00:49:48,893 --> 00:49:51,173
Speaker 17: or you know, anything huge that you've gone through that

968
00:49:51,533 --> 00:49:55,013
Speaker 17: you kind of you go through them, and you bring

969
00:49:55,093 --> 00:49:58,653
Speaker 17: all those the simulacrum of all of those things that

970
00:49:58,653 --> 00:50:00,893
Speaker 17: would be if it was real, and your body goes

971
00:50:00,933 --> 00:50:01,253
Speaker 17: through it.

972
00:50:02,333 --> 00:50:04,493
Speaker 16: So maybe there's a bit of that. Often it's a

973
00:50:04,493 --> 00:50:05,813
Speaker 16: physical tiredness, isn't it if you.

974
00:50:06,013 --> 00:50:07,893
Speaker 12: Yes, yes, it's a bit like running a sort of

975
00:50:07,933 --> 00:50:08,533
Speaker 12: a marathon.

976
00:50:08,613 --> 00:50:09,853
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't.

977
00:50:10,893 --> 00:50:13,493
Speaker 16: I think it'd be something weird if you were. I

978
00:50:13,533 --> 00:50:15,693
Speaker 16: don't know. Some people carry it, some people do eat

979
00:50:15,813 --> 00:50:16,213
Speaker 16: their own.

980
00:50:17,053 --> 00:50:20,533
Speaker 3: Jennifer, I had to ask you about your eighteen months

981
00:50:20,653 --> 00:50:24,013
Speaker 3: or so now on the board of Thetota City, Yes,

982
00:50:24,213 --> 00:50:27,173
Speaker 3: the Marli Language Commission. How has it. How has it been?

983
00:50:27,333 --> 00:50:30,653
Speaker 12: It's been wonderful because it's not the first. I've been

984
00:50:30,653 --> 00:50:32,693
Speaker 12: on a lot of boards before, but not a crown entity.

985
00:50:32,813 --> 00:50:35,413
Speaker 12: So I had to learn a lot of the the

986
00:50:35,413 --> 00:50:38,173
Speaker 12: acronyms and all of those kind of things, and just

987
00:50:38,373 --> 00:50:41,853
Speaker 12: learn how how we fit in the greater sort of

988
00:50:43,013 --> 00:50:48,013
Speaker 12: ecology of crown entities. But I have an an incredible

989
00:50:50,013 --> 00:50:53,493
Speaker 12: group of people on that board and I'm learning a lot,

990
00:50:53,813 --> 00:50:55,573
Speaker 12: and I think I'm much more settled in there now

991
00:50:55,613 --> 00:50:57,613
Speaker 12: than I was, you know, to say it like a

992
00:50:57,693 --> 00:50:59,733
Speaker 12: year or so ago. But of course we have a

993
00:50:59,773 --> 00:51:02,653
Speaker 12: big you know, we have a big fu fire in

994
00:51:02,653 --> 00:51:04,893
Speaker 12: front of us. You know, we've got we've got to

995
00:51:04,933 --> 00:51:07,533
Speaker 12: make sure that we keep those you know, seventy three

996
00:51:07,533 --> 00:51:11,173
Speaker 12: percent of New Zealanders value the Old Mary and three

997
00:51:11,253 --> 00:51:13,973
Speaker 12: Ol Mary, and we want to keep those numbers up.

998
00:51:14,013 --> 00:51:17,653
Speaker 12: And you know, I get concerned when things like the

999
00:51:17,933 --> 00:51:23,733
Speaker 12: three D settlements are in discussion that somehow this will.

1000
00:51:25,053 --> 00:51:25,373
Speaker 2: Stop.

1001
00:51:25,533 --> 00:51:27,893
Speaker 12: I don't want it to stop. The wonderful trajectory that

1002
00:51:27,893 --> 00:51:30,853
Speaker 12: we as New Zealanders are on. And certainly for me,

1003
00:51:31,213 --> 00:51:35,773
Speaker 12: being on this journey learning three Ol Mary and being

1004
00:51:35,813 --> 00:51:38,573
Speaker 12: part of that world is you know, it's made me

1005
00:51:39,493 --> 00:51:43,373
Speaker 12: much more solid and in my own skin here in

1006
00:51:43,373 --> 00:51:47,613
Speaker 12: this country. I stand in this country, my old my

1007
00:51:47,653 --> 00:51:50,693
Speaker 12: New Zealand is so much more strongly than before I

1008
00:51:50,733 --> 00:51:53,733
Speaker 12: started learning. So I hope that New Zealanders still keep

1009
00:51:53,773 --> 00:51:57,493
Speaker 12: that value there and still understand that it's what makes

1010
00:51:57,613 --> 00:52:02,013
Speaker 12: us unique. To have a living culture around us. Is

1011
00:52:02,093 --> 00:52:02,933
Speaker 12: my hopes and dreams.

1012
00:52:02,933 --> 00:52:05,973
Speaker 3: Anyway, I suspect I might not announce this. Are you

1013
00:52:06,013 --> 00:52:07,213
Speaker 3: a three Metal fan?

1014
00:52:08,213 --> 00:52:08,333
Speaker 5: Oh?

1015
00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:09,253
Speaker 12: Are you talking about alien?

1016
00:52:09,293 --> 00:52:13,493
Speaker 3: Weaponry? Alien? We're talking about the documentary fourteen o'clock. Yeah,

1017
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:16,133
Speaker 3: But I'm dying it's sposually amazing. Yeah, so.

1018
00:52:17,733 --> 00:52:20,653
Speaker 12: I would say that's not my music of choice, however,

1019
00:52:20,893 --> 00:52:24,253
Speaker 12: choice necessary. And I'm intrigued to see this documentary because

1020
00:52:24,253 --> 00:52:25,853
Speaker 12: i think these young men are wonderful.

1021
00:52:26,013 --> 00:52:29,493
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I did too that that they're incredible. So yeah,

1022
00:52:29,533 --> 00:52:32,253
Speaker 3: that film sounds amazing as well. Thank you so much

1023
00:52:32,413 --> 00:52:34,053
Speaker 3: for coming in guys. So in other words, is going

1024
00:52:34,093 --> 00:52:39,013
Speaker 3: to be playing Kitty Kittys and playing Hamilton, Wellington, christ Church, Dunedin, Warnica,

1025
00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:43,213
Speaker 3: Hastings and great news you're coming back to tam.

1026
00:52:42,613 --> 00:52:45,013
Speaker 12: All nights in Auckland do Q Theater eleventh and twelfth

1027
00:52:45,053 --> 00:52:45,493
Speaker 12: of April.

1028
00:52:45,573 --> 00:52:47,053
Speaker 3: Okay, so we will make sure that all of the

1029
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Speaker 3: dates are up on the news talks all right, but

1030
00:52:49,173 --> 00:52:53,133
Speaker 3: thank you so much. Wonderful to both. Yeah, fantastic Michael Hurst,

1031
00:52:53,173 --> 00:52:56,133
Speaker 3: Jennifer ward Leland with us this morning. In other words,

1032
00:52:56,493 --> 00:52:59,933
Speaker 3: touring altare right now. It is twenty one minutes past ten.

1033
00:53:00,573 --> 00:53:03,973
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1035
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1036
00:53:09,573 --> 00:53:12,133
Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes past ten on News talks 'B before

1037
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:14,973
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock Rude Climb pasted. Our man in the garden

1038
00:53:15,093 --> 00:53:17,493
Speaker 3: is going to be helping me out. I reckon I

1039
00:53:17,533 --> 00:53:21,053
Speaker 3: can fairly be accused of abusing my position of power

1040
00:53:21,053 --> 00:53:22,613
Speaker 3: by getting Rude on the show to help me out

1041
00:53:22,653 --> 00:53:26,213
Speaker 3: with my various gardening issues, because there's certainly no end

1042
00:53:26,213 --> 00:53:28,853
Speaker 3: of them. My latest one is I've got like those

1043
00:53:28,973 --> 00:53:31,613
Speaker 3: those passion vine hoppers, you know, the fluffy bumps. They

1044
00:53:31,653 --> 00:53:34,093
Speaker 3: are everywhere in my garden. I've taken to them with

1045
00:53:34,093 --> 00:53:36,413
Speaker 3: a fly spray like Rude recommended. I've taken to them

1046
00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:39,093
Speaker 3: with a knee oil like Rude recommended. I've still got

1047
00:53:39,093 --> 00:53:40,453
Speaker 3: heaps of them. Those. So he's going to be with

1048
00:53:40,533 --> 00:53:44,413
Speaker 3: us before eleven with tips on trying to expunge the

1049
00:53:44,493 --> 00:53:48,013
Speaker 3: remainders from your backyard. Right now, though, it is time

1050
00:53:48,173 --> 00:53:51,293
Speaker 3: for your screen time picks. Tara Ward is our screen

1051
00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:54,213
Speaker 3: time expert. She's got three shows to recommend to us

1052
00:53:54,213 --> 00:53:58,213
Speaker 3: this weekend. To Tara, good morning. Let's start off with

1053
00:53:58,453 --> 00:54:01,413
Speaker 3: Miriam Marghalie. She's been in Australia now she is in

1054
00:54:01,453 --> 00:54:04,933
Speaker 3: New Zealand. Miriam Margali's in New Zealand kicks off this weekend.

1055
00:54:05,693 --> 00:54:08,933
Speaker 19: Yeah, this is a new documentary series that starts Tomorrow Night,

1056
00:54:09,093 --> 00:54:12,293
Speaker 19: and it's presented by the wonderful Mariam Margleys, who some

1057
00:54:12,453 --> 00:54:15,453
Speaker 19: might know for her acting work on TV and films,

1058
00:54:15,573 --> 00:54:18,893
Speaker 19: or from her appearances on The Great Norton Show, or

1059
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:22,333
Speaker 19: from her travel documentaries where she travels around Australia in

1060
00:54:22,373 --> 00:54:25,333
Speaker 19: Scotland and a campa van and now she's in New Zealand.

1061
00:54:25,413 --> 00:54:27,893
Speaker 19: She lives in Australia, but she's never been here before,

1062
00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:31,173
Speaker 19: and she's curious to find out what makes us different

1063
00:54:31,533 --> 00:54:35,133
Speaker 19: to Australia, what is the New Zealand identity? And so

1064
00:54:35,173 --> 00:54:37,613
Speaker 19: she hires a camper van and drives around the country

1065
00:54:37,653 --> 00:54:40,293
Speaker 19: and talks to different people about what it means to

1066
00:54:40,333 --> 00:54:43,533
Speaker 19: them to be a New Zealander. And I love this

1067
00:54:43,613 --> 00:54:45,893
Speaker 19: a lot, mostly because of Miriam Margley's who if you've

1068
00:54:45,933 --> 00:54:48,933
Speaker 19: ever seen or heard an interview with her, she's very funny,

1069
00:54:49,013 --> 00:54:52,613
Speaker 19: she's blunt, and she is honest, but she's also very

1070
00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:56,173
Speaker 19: curious and interested and she's all of those things here

1071
00:54:56,373 --> 00:54:58,853
Speaker 19: and I like that this is more than just your

1072
00:54:58,893 --> 00:55:02,093
Speaker 19: typical travel documentary as well. It's much more thoughtful than that.

1073
00:55:02,493 --> 00:55:05,973
Speaker 19: So she does go to Hobbiton and a Hurricanes rugby game,

1074
00:55:06,013 --> 00:55:09,653
Speaker 19: but she also goes to the among A refugee resettlement center.

1075
00:55:09,733 --> 00:55:12,933
Speaker 19: She meets a nun in Tyber monastery, She watches the

1076
00:55:12,933 --> 00:55:15,733
Speaker 19: Black Friends Train. She meets a real variety of people

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Speaker 19: and she is genuinely interested in them and their stories.

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Speaker 19: So it's a lovely watch. It shows us who we

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Speaker 19: are in a lot of different ways. Episode one is

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Speaker 19: on tomorrow night. It's free to air on Sky Open

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Speaker 19: and it will also be streaming on Neon as well

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Speaker 19: from tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. Yeah, really looking forward to that. She's such a

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Speaker 3: character but like you say, really kind of curious in

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Speaker 3: a non judgmental way, which I think, yeah, makes it

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Speaker 3: exactly Magic TV on Netflix, Apple Side of Vinegar.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: This is a new Australian drama and it's inspired by

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Speaker 19: a true story about a woman named Bell Gibson who

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Speaker 19: in the twenty tens became known as this Instagram wellness guru.

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Speaker 19: She claims she has healed herself of cancer by using

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Speaker 19: different alternative therapies, and people believed her. They bought all

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Speaker 19: the things that she was set in the belief that

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Speaker 19: they too could be cured. The trouble was that Bell

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Speaker 19: Gibson was faking her illnesses. She did not have cancer,

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Speaker 19: and eventually she was found out and publicly exposed as

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Speaker 19: a scammer. And this series is about why Bell did this,

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Speaker 19: but it's also about the rise of social media and

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Speaker 19: influences and misinformation and how that form of media means

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Speaker 19: you can portray yourself in a certain way, and it's

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Speaker 19: hard to challenge that. Belle is played by Caitlin Deaver,

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Speaker 19: who is American, but who pulls off the most amazing

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Speaker 19: Australian accent I've heard on TV. It's pretty flawless, yet

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Speaker 19: he's incredible. And a couple of other things about this one.

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Speaker 19: This is a show that you have to concentrate on.

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Speaker 19: It's not quite sure how it wants to tell the story,

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Speaker 19: so there's lots of different voiceovers and time jumps, so

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Speaker 19: it can be quite confusing. And of course the other

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Speaker 19: thing is that there's a lot of medical treatments and

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Speaker 19: cancer related scenes in which may not be for everybody.

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00:57:04,893 --> 00:57:08,613
Speaker 19: But Otherwiseness is a sharp, smart series. Some dry Australian

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Speaker 19: humor in here as well, and it's just about it.

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Speaker 19: Quite an unbelievable and quite a sad story as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, cool, that sounds interesting. Apple Side a Villiot

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00:57:17,013 --> 00:57:20,173
Speaker 3: that's on Netflix and on Neon. You've got a couple

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00:57:20,173 --> 00:57:21,533
Speaker 3: of seasons of Grace.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 19: This is a new police drama. It's has come to Neon.

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00:57:25,453 --> 00:57:28,333
Speaker 19: It's based on a series of books by Peter James

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Speaker 19: and has been adapted for TV by Russell Lewis, who's

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00:57:32,053 --> 00:57:34,933
Speaker 19: written shows like Endeavor and Sharp and So if you

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00:57:35,093 --> 00:57:38,173
Speaker 19: like those quieter kinds of crime dramas, I think you'll

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Speaker 19: like this as well. This is set in Brighton. It's

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Speaker 19: about a troubled police detective, because they are always troubled

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Speaker 19: police detective played by Johns whose wife went missing five

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Speaker 19: years ago. He is very talented at his job but

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Speaker 19: is still coming to terms with his wife's disappearance. In

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Speaker 19: the first series, he has to deal with the case

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Speaker 19: of a missing property developer. And it's a pretty formulaic,

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Speaker 19: reliable British police procedural. You know, there's no violence, it's

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Speaker 19: not particularly gritty. It's a pretty safe watch, pretty understated.

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Speaker 19: Johnson is great in this and there's lots of twist

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00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:13,773
Speaker 19: and turns to keep you watching. I think it's one

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Speaker 19: for lovers of a British drama that appreciate more of

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00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:21,373
Speaker 19: that quiet dialogue and slower pace rather than needing those

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Speaker 19: big stunts and actioncy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, Okay, that sounds good though. That's Grace. That's

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Speaker 3: on Neon. Apple Cider Vinegar is on Netflix, and Miriam

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00:58:28,853 --> 00:58:32,253
Speaker 3: Margoli's in New Zealand is on Sky Open. It's seven

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Speaker 3: thirty Tomorrow night and streaming on Neon as well. We'll

1141
00:58:35,013 --> 00:58:36,973
Speaker 3: have all the details for those shows on the News

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Speaker 3: Talks EDB website.

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Speaker 5: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News Talks EDB

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Speaker 1: SA Beyond.

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Speaker 4: Oh col DeSUS.

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Speaker 3: This is Nadia Reed. Beautiful ay ah, such a beautiful sound.

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Speaker 3: In case you weren't listening last Saturday morning, we missed you,

1149
00:59:20,893 --> 00:59:23,413
Speaker 3: but Nardi was on the show talking about a new album.

1150
00:59:24,453 --> 00:59:27,013
Speaker 3: The album is called interer Now Brightness. The song is

1151
00:59:27,053 --> 00:59:30,693
Speaker 3: called call the Days and you might recognize it from

1152
00:59:30,773 --> 00:59:34,253
Speaker 3: her debut, so that means she's been recording music for

1153
00:59:35,453 --> 00:59:38,173
Speaker 3: more than a decade now. Anyway. Into Our Brightness is

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00:59:38,173 --> 00:59:40,133
Speaker 3: her fourth album. She says this one feels a little

1155
00:59:40,173 --> 00:59:42,093
Speaker 3: bit different, took her a couple of years to write

1156
00:59:42,093 --> 00:59:44,733
Speaker 3: and represents a really big change in her life. She's

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00:59:44,773 --> 00:59:49,493
Speaker 3: actually relocated from Port Charmers beautiful Port Charmers. Why anyone

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00:59:49,533 --> 00:59:51,493
Speaker 3: will want to leave Port Charmers, I don't understand. But

1159
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Speaker 3: in mind, she's moved to Manchester, she's had a second child,

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Speaker 3: and our music review at Estelle is gonna give us

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Speaker 3: her thoughts before midday on the album as a whole. Hey,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for your feedback this morning. We

1163
01:00:03,133 --> 01:00:07,293
Speaker 3: have had so many messages. I just get over the

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01:00:07,333 --> 01:00:10,253
Speaker 3: whole of white tonguey chat and the Donald Trump chat

1165
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Speaker 3: this week. I wanted to pontificate on coffee machines because

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Speaker 3: I have been kind of debating about whether or not

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Speaker 3: I should upgrade from my beautiful little Italian stove top,

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Speaker 3: very humble, very simple, little Italian stove top, little BEERLETTI

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Speaker 3: to one of those big, chrome, fancy espresso makers that

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Speaker 3: everyone seems to have these days. And for a couple

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Speaker 3: of reasons, I've been holding off. Number one, I don't

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Speaker 3: like clutter, so I don't like having anything electronic on

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Speaker 3: my kitchen bench top. I don't even have an electric

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Speaker 3: kettle at the moment, don't even have an electric joke.

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Speaker 3: The toaster lives in a drawer. That's how I kind

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Speaker 3: of ainla am on that front. But The other reason

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Speaker 3: is I just like the process of making coffee, and

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Speaker 3: I love the taste of my coffee. Anyway, Jack, I

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Speaker 3: totally agree with you regarding a clear bench top, says Joe. However,

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Speaker 3: I have an instant boiling hot water tap which takes

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Speaker 3: up no room, is unobtrusive, and the hot water is

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Speaker 3: available instantly, and I would now never be without it.

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Speaker 3: That does sound like a real luxury. That's when you

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01:01:10,893 --> 01:01:12,733
Speaker 3: know you've got a fancy kitchen. It's like they have

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Speaker 3: them in some workplaces. It's like almost like a zip

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01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:19,293
Speaker 3: but it's a tap, and often it has the filtered

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Speaker 3: cold water and the boiling hot water, so that is

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Speaker 3: very fancy. Indeed, Joe, I don't thin we could afford

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Speaker 3: one of those, Jack, says Alistair. Buying an expensive but

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Speaker 3: high quality coffee machine and grinder will set you back

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Speaker 3: approximately four thousand dollars. If you then only make your own,

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Speaker 3: say three a day today's average price of a breast

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Speaker 3: to coffee, you'll pay it off by savings in approximately

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Speaker 3: ten months. So buy twelve months interest free and you

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Speaker 3: for the win. I like the economics there, Alistair. Three

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Speaker 3: coffees a day on your machine? Is that realistic though,

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you're in a modern workplace, maybe

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Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two if you want to send us

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Speaker 3: a message, Jacket Newstek with HEIDB dot Co dot NZ

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Speaker 3: our texpert is in next. It's twenty five to eleven, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newsmakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 20: Back to the Cooks and their big day out Beijing

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01:02:06,893 --> 01:02:09,453
Speaker 20: as they inca deal that seems to suggest China's making

1204
01:02:09,453 --> 01:02:11,933
Speaker 20: major in roads into the Pacific. Foreign Minister Winston Peters

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Speaker 20: is what this are we buying this out of proportion?

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01:02:13,773 --> 01:02:15,453
Speaker 20: So they signed a deal with China, So what we

1207
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Speaker 20: do business with China is.

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Speaker 2: Really an issue.

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Speaker 21: It was an issue to the extent that a number

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Speaker 21: of the constructions where the Chinese were involved in Cork

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Speaker 21: Glance have simply failed. I raised all this with Swannas

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Speaker 21: and Wan and he said, you're to get them fixed up.

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Speaker 21: But the reality is that Colgan people don't know what's

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Speaker 21: going on, and I am my government. I constantly required

1215
01:02:32,813 --> 01:02:35,173
Speaker 21: to ensure we talk for them, to ensure that we

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Speaker 21: on the path and these on taxpayers know exactly what's

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Speaker 21: going on so that we are channels easy.

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Speaker 20: On taxpayers back Monday from six am The Mike Asking

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Speaker 20: Breakfast with the Rain, drover of the last News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Twenty three minutes to eleven on News Talk zedb our

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Speaker 3: Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with big news in the

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Speaker 3: world of relationship dating online. These days, tender wants you

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Speaker 3: to find the relationship you want. Big changes coming to

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Speaker 3: the dating platform.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's been a while since probably either of us

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Speaker 11: have been on tender jack. So just to set the scene,

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Speaker 11: Tinder used to be the app where you were just

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Speaker 11: the profiles would pop up and you'd swipe through them

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Speaker 11: left and right, kind of almost at random, right, Like

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Speaker 11: I think there was some algorithm kind of there. But

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Speaker 11: did you know I didn't that Tinder also had an

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01:03:20,013 --> 01:03:23,053
Speaker 11: explore page or has an explore page, So there were

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Speaker 11: interests on there like animal parents or gamers and things

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01:03:27,253 --> 01:03:29,053
Speaker 11: like that, and you could kind of like start to

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Speaker 11: find people you might want to be in a relationship

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Speaker 11: with based on your interests. But now Tinder.

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Speaker 3: Jazz, So sorry, just to be clear on that that

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Speaker 3: you're still looking for you're still dating on that So

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01:03:38,853 --> 01:03:41,453
Speaker 3: you're still dating, yeah, right, So I could say I'm

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01:03:41,493 --> 01:03:44,613
Speaker 3: looking for people who are who love having a really

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01:03:44,613 --> 01:03:47,613
Speaker 3: clear bench top. It's a niche. It's a niche. No,

1242
01:03:48,453 --> 01:03:51,013
Speaker 3: but no, I couldn't. It wouldn't be nice. I could

1243
01:03:51,013 --> 01:03:53,893
Speaker 3: say i'mulated playing for asbee or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 11: Think it's even more curated than that, right, that just

1246
01:03:57,133 --> 01:03:59,973
Speaker 11: put some random parameters in. If only you could get

1247
01:04:00,013 --> 01:04:01,693
Speaker 11: that specific Yeah, I'm a night owl.

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01:04:01,813 --> 01:04:03,093
Speaker 14: I'm you know, yeah, that.

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Speaker 11: Could be quite handy, but instead check They've put some

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Speaker 11: new ops in, which, let's just say, I think might

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01:04:10,253 --> 01:04:13,333
Speaker 11: kind of change the game for Tinder because you can

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Speaker 11: now say the type of style of relationship you're looking for.

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01:04:17,973 --> 01:04:22,613
Speaker 11: So there's now categories for serious datas people looking for

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01:04:22,813 --> 01:04:27,053
Speaker 11: long term partners. Here's where it gets interesting, non monogamy

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Speaker 11: and my favorite short term fun.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, short term fun. Yes, yes, on Saturday

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Speaker 3: morning pool, here we go.

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Speaker 11: I think that's like the most family friendly way.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we don't need to go into any more detail

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Speaker 3: on that front. Hey, the UK government is trying to

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Speaker 3: get eyes on iPhone users data. But here's the hook.

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01:04:53,333 --> 01:04:54,973
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where you live. Don't have to be

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Speaker 3: in the UK. They want that data.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, New Zealand, the US doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: They want the data that.

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Speaker 11: Apple has, and this is all happening in you know,

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Speaker 11: secret basically, and this we only know about it because

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Speaker 11: of reporting from the Washington Post, and the Post says

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Speaker 11: that the UK government's issued this secret order to Apple.

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Speaker 11: It all sounds very kind of spy movie ESQ.

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Speaker 16: Doesn't it really.

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Speaker 11: But Apple is basically being asked to give the UK

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Speaker 11: government there's backdoor into iCloud, which even covers the encrypted

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Speaker 11: data that you have in iCloud, because Apple gives you

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Speaker 11: an option to either store your data in iCloud unencrypted

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Speaker 11: or in a more secure encrypted way. And so that's

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Speaker 11: now what they want to get access to globally, which

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Speaker 11: is interesting. The encrypted piece is the most interesting obviously,

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Speaker 11: because if they can get in and break the encryption

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Speaker 11: with like a sort of secret key, there's a very

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Speaker 11: good chance that other governments are going to want that

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Speaker 11: as well. Apple has been very adamant that they're the

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Speaker 11: privacy company.

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01:06:01,413 --> 01:06:03,493
Speaker 3: You can store your data with us. It is safe.

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Speaker 11: The US, like China would probably be wanting the same thing.

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Speaker 11: Apple has been saying no to those governments. But what's

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Speaker 11: also interesting about this is that the UK is kind

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Speaker 11: of alone when it comes to wanting to break into encryption.

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Speaker 11: As I mentioned, the US and China and other folks

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Speaker 11: have kind of wanted it, but in most recent times,

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Speaker 11: actually law enforcement in the US and Canada, in Australia

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Speaker 11: and New Zealand, they're actually now in favor of encryption

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Speaker 11: on these platforms.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 11: The argument used to be, oh, it makes it easy

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Speaker 11: for terrorists and child abusers and other criminals to do

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Speaker 11: things in secret and we can't get in. But they're

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Speaker 11: now actually saying encrypt it because they want to stop

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Speaker 11: Chinese hackers.

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Speaker 3: Man, So what a turn of events.

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Speaker 11: But no, this is all happening completely in secret and

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Speaker 11: is really one to watch. The hard part is that

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Speaker 11: under this law is actually an offense for Apple to

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01:06:55,213 --> 01:06:58,733
Speaker 11: reveal that they've got this from the UK. And it's

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Speaker 11: also Apple doesn't need to notify anybody if they give

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01:07:03,493 --> 01:07:06,373
Speaker 11: that Apple and then if they agree and also if they.

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Speaker 14: Then give access to a user.

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Speaker 3: Wow, so I'm never going to know.

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Speaker 11: So thanks Washington Post because that might be the only

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Speaker 11: way we knew that this was happening, or was going

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Speaker 11: to happen, or does happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is so interesting. Thank you, Paul. That is

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Speaker 3: Paul our texpert. You're fascinating how the UK has those

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Speaker 3: secrecy laws so they can stop any of that stuff

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Speaker 3: being reported. Really is quite remarkable. Fascinating times in which

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Speaker 3: we live. Before eleven o'clock, our man in the garden

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Speaker 3: with his tips on getting rid of a couple of

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Speaker 3: the common summer ailments that I'm sure aren't just affecting

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Speaker 3: things at my place. Next up, though, our personal finance

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Speaker 3: expert has some really simple saving hacks backed by sciences.

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Speaker 5: No bitter way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 1: Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepwured

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Speaker 1: on code on enz for high quality Supplements used talksmb Well.

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Speaker 22: The latest economic data was out this weekend. It priints

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01:07:59,733 --> 01:08:03,653
Speaker 22: a pretty grim picture of economic activity in New Zealand

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01:08:03,693 --> 01:08:05,293
Speaker 22: at the moment. I think a lot of us are

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Speaker 22: looking at any way to save a bob or two,

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01:08:07,973 --> 01:08:13,053
Speaker 22: not just by avoiding splashy purchases like brand new chrome

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01:08:13,293 --> 01:08:17,933
Speaker 22: coffee machines. But Ed McKnight, our money guy from Opie's Partners,

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Speaker 22: is here this morning with some saving tips backed by science.

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Speaker 5: Gotta Ed get a Jack.

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Speaker 3: It is start off with some mental accounting and there

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01:08:27,053 --> 01:08:29,133
Speaker 3: are some kind of simple rules of threat thumb that

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Speaker 3: can actually work right.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well this is quite interesting because you often see

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01:08:33,573 --> 01:08:38,453
Speaker 23: budgeting budgeting advice on TikTok, Instagram or even or news

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01:08:38,453 --> 01:08:41,173
Speaker 23: talk said b as you sometimes want to do. These

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01:08:41,253 --> 01:08:44,173
Speaker 23: tips really work, and so that's why I started digging

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01:08:44,213 --> 01:08:47,413
Speaker 23: through the university papers to find these kind of science

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01:08:47,493 --> 01:08:51,093
Speaker 23: based savings tips. And when it comes to mental accounting,

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01:08:51,133 --> 01:08:54,213
Speaker 23: you offer hear of these rules of thumb, like you

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01:08:54,213 --> 01:08:57,533
Speaker 23: should spend fifty percent of your money on your needs,

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01:08:57,813 --> 01:09:00,293
Speaker 23: thirty percent of your money or once and twenty percent

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01:09:00,373 --> 01:09:03,133
Speaker 23: on savings. And there's a really good book by the

1345
01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:05,933
Speaker 23: Barefoot Investor out of Australia who's got some similar kind

1346
01:09:05,973 --> 01:09:08,973
Speaker 23: of buckets about how you should split up your money. Now,

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Speaker 23: the question I had was does this really work? It

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01:09:12,093 --> 01:09:15,333
Speaker 23: actually the ounces yes. There was some research out of

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Speaker 23: the University of Chicago an economists called Richard Salor, who's

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01:09:19,573 --> 01:09:22,853
Speaker 23: absolute genius, and he found that if you follow some

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01:09:22,893 --> 01:09:26,373
Speaker 23: of these simple mental rules of thumb, or what he

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01:09:26,453 --> 01:09:29,653
Speaker 23: calls mental accounting, you do end up saving more. But

1353
01:09:29,813 --> 01:09:31,733
Speaker 23: to do it the right way, what we've got to

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01:09:31,773 --> 01:09:34,613
Speaker 23: do is we've got to split up our money into

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Speaker 23: different accounts.

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Speaker 7: So Back in.

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Speaker 23: Your oldie days, when you got paid at a little

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01:09:39,573 --> 01:09:42,733
Speaker 23: brown paper envelope, people would split up their money into

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01:09:42,893 --> 01:09:46,773
Speaker 23: those different envelopes and you'd have your food envelope and you, yeah,

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01:09:47,093 --> 01:09:49,013
Speaker 23: whatever it was that you're spending money on, you'd have

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Speaker 23: different envelopes. And it turns out that actually works. And

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01:09:51,733 --> 01:09:53,973
Speaker 23: in the modern day, if you get your pay in

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01:09:54,173 --> 01:09:57,333
Speaker 23: and you have some automatic payments go out into whether

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01:09:57,373 --> 01:10:00,213
Speaker 23: it's your needs account to or you want spank account

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01:10:00,253 --> 01:10:03,373
Speaker 23: and your saving spank account, that actually works. People end

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01:10:03,453 --> 01:10:06,693
Speaker 23: up saving ten percent more compared to if you just

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01:10:06,773 --> 01:10:08,853
Speaker 23: had all your money in the wash.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I see. That's so interesting. It's funny how

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01:10:12,093 --> 01:10:14,573
Speaker 3: human nature works like that. But I've got a lot

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01:10:14,613 --> 01:10:17,013
Speaker 3: of friends who budget that way and they say the

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Speaker 3: same thing. That really does if you have those different pots,

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Speaker 3: if you like, it does make a big difference. Another one,

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01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:26,533
Speaker 3: another tip back by science that is kind of like

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01:10:26,653 --> 01:10:28,653
Speaker 3: running a marathon in a way, is that instead of

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01:10:28,693 --> 01:10:31,173
Speaker 3: focusing on big goals, you've got to break things down

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01:10:31,213 --> 01:10:32,453
Speaker 3: into bite sized chunks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: This is fascinating because often people say, right, set a

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01:10:36,093 --> 01:10:38,733
Speaker 23: big saving skull, get yourself excited, you know, I want

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01:10:38,733 --> 01:10:40,613
Speaker 23: to save five grad this year, or I want to

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01:10:40,613 --> 01:10:43,653
Speaker 23: save ted grad this year. Well, the research out of

1382
01:10:44,013 --> 01:10:47,613
Speaker 23: a university in Texas, Rice University, says that's actually the

1383
01:10:47,613 --> 01:10:50,133
Speaker 23: wrong way to go about it. And the reason is

1384
01:10:50,173 --> 01:10:51,773
Speaker 23: if you set a big goal and say I would

1385
01:10:51,813 --> 01:10:54,813
Speaker 23: to save five grad this year, there may be this

1386
01:10:54,893 --> 01:10:57,493
Speaker 23: week or I won't save quite as much because I'll make.

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Speaker 5: Up for it later.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, but what actually works is if you just say, Okay,

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01:11:01,973 --> 01:11:04,493
Speaker 23: five grad of the year is about one hundred bucks

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01:11:04,493 --> 01:11:07,093
Speaker 23: a week, So I have just got to focus on

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01:11:07,173 --> 01:11:09,013
Speaker 23: saving one hundred bucks a week. I'm not going to

1392
01:11:09,093 --> 01:11:11,773
Speaker 23: focus on that big goal. It's just what do I

1393
01:11:11,813 --> 01:11:14,733
Speaker 23: need to do this week, this fortnight, this month, depending

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01:11:14,773 --> 01:11:17,973
Speaker 23: on when you actually get paid. And using something like

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01:11:18,213 --> 01:11:20,773
Speaker 23: a habit tracker, whether it be I mean, there are

1396
01:11:20,773 --> 01:11:23,373
Speaker 23: great ones out there for your iPhone, whether it's Progress

1397
01:11:23,493 --> 01:11:27,333
Speaker 23: or habitafy Strides is another one. If you just say Okay,

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01:11:27,613 --> 01:11:29,893
Speaker 23: I need to set one hundred dollars aside for the

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01:11:29,933 --> 01:11:31,773
Speaker 23: next five weeks and see how I go.

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Speaker 2: That works.

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01:11:32,773 --> 01:11:35,973
Speaker 23: People end up saving eighty two percent more when they

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01:11:36,013 --> 01:11:36,893
Speaker 23: do it that way.

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01:11:36,933 --> 01:11:40,293
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing. Okay, eighty two percent more is huge.

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01:11:40,733 --> 01:11:43,893
Speaker 3: There's also the save more Tomorrow approach, which is like

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01:11:43,933 --> 01:11:45,733
Speaker 3: a behavioral economics track.

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01:11:46,733 --> 01:11:46,973
Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Now this is an interesting one which might seem counter

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01:11:49,413 --> 01:11:51,933
Speaker 23: to the one we just talked about. But the idea

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01:11:51,973 --> 01:11:54,093
Speaker 23: here is when you start out at a job, you're

1410
01:11:54,093 --> 01:11:56,973
Speaker 23: not earning much, so it's really hard to save because

1411
01:11:57,013 --> 01:11:59,733
Speaker 23: you're in come slow. And what these guys again, it

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01:11:59,733 --> 01:12:01,653
Speaker 23: was out of the University of Chicago. What they did

1413
01:12:01,733 --> 01:12:03,733
Speaker 23: is they went to a bunch of employers and they said,

1414
01:12:03,773 --> 01:12:06,453
Speaker 23: next time you give any of your employees are pay,

1415
01:12:07,053 --> 01:12:09,613
Speaker 23: offer the chance to put half of that pay rise

1416
01:12:09,973 --> 01:12:12,853
Speaker 23: into savings. And every single time they get a pay rise,

1417
01:12:12,893 --> 01:12:14,973
Speaker 23: say do you want to put half of that regularly

1418
01:12:15,013 --> 01:12:17,973
Speaker 23: into savings? Well, blow me down. Four out of five

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01:12:18,213 --> 01:12:22,213
Speaker 23: employees we'd offer this, sign up for it. At eighty

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01:12:22,293 --> 01:12:24,373
Speaker 23: percent of the people who sign up and take this

1421
01:12:24,453 --> 01:12:28,253
Speaker 23: approach stick with it for four years. The amazing thing

1422
01:12:28,493 --> 01:12:31,533
Speaker 23: is this actually works on average. In their study, people

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01:12:31,533 --> 01:12:34,333
Speaker 23: went from saving about four percent of their income to

1424
01:12:34,493 --> 01:12:38,053
Speaker 23: fourteen percent of their income over that four year period,

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01:12:38,133 --> 01:12:40,253
Speaker 23: so that one again definitely works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. Okay, cool, thank you so much.

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Speaker 10: Ed.

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Speaker 3: We're going to put all of those tips up on

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Speaker 3: the news took z'b website. Our money guy there, ed

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Speaker 3: McKnight from Op's Partners, Rude Climb Past. Our man in

1431
01:12:50,493 --> 01:12:53,013
Speaker 3: the garden is here helping me out next. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Film one guning with Still Shop get free accessories on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that time to catch up with our man

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01:13:01,573 --> 01:13:03,853
Speaker 3: in the garden. Rude climb past is here.

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01:13:04,093 --> 01:13:05,053
Speaker 11: What in a road.

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Speaker 5: Jack you started it? Fashion vine hoppers?

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01:13:09,933 --> 01:13:10,373
Speaker 2: Do you know what?

1440
01:13:10,493 --> 01:13:14,293
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen so many of one

1441
01:13:14,373 --> 01:13:17,653
Speaker 3: in sect in one space as the number of passion

1442
01:13:17,693 --> 01:13:21,893
Speaker 3: vine hoppers at my place. They are just everywhere. It's

1443
01:13:21,933 --> 01:13:24,093
Speaker 3: a proper like infestation levels.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, but it's not really. It happens from time to time.

1445
01:13:28,053 --> 01:13:29,853
Speaker 24: Some years are worse than others.

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01:13:30,133 --> 01:13:30,853
Speaker 5: But this is it.

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01:13:30,893 --> 01:13:32,653
Speaker 24: But you know, I've got good news and I've got

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01:13:32,653 --> 01:13:34,773
Speaker 24: bad news. The bad news is, of course, you're far

1449
01:13:34,853 --> 01:13:36,133
Speaker 24: too late to do anything about it.

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01:13:36,173 --> 01:13:38,653
Speaker 3: Brilliant, Okay, So I've just been That means basically the

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01:13:39,173 --> 01:13:44,133
Speaker 3: last three weeks have just been totally yeah exactly.

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01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:46,373
Speaker 24: Well, we talked about, you know, when there were young

1453
01:13:46,493 --> 01:13:49,373
Speaker 24: fluffy bumps to spray it straight in with something, But

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01:13:49,453 --> 01:13:52,253
Speaker 24: that's in We're talking about September, October, November, that sort

1455
01:13:52,293 --> 01:13:55,293
Speaker 24: of time. But anyway, what you can do now is

1456
01:13:55,773 --> 01:13:59,133
Speaker 24: watch them lay eggs, because they'll start doing that very soon.

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01:13:59,653 --> 01:14:02,133
Speaker 24: And I put some pictures on the on the website

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01:14:02,213 --> 01:14:05,493
Speaker 24: to show you or show everybody what those eggs look like.

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01:14:05,813 --> 01:14:06,613
Speaker 5: They're usually on.

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01:14:06,653 --> 01:14:09,973
Speaker 24: Tendrils of all sorts of plants. And once you see those,

1461
01:14:10,253 --> 01:14:12,093
Speaker 24: you can cut those off because you're prune in the

1462
01:14:12,093 --> 01:14:14,893
Speaker 24: winter on autumn. Anyway, put them in the fireplace and

1463
01:14:14,933 --> 01:14:16,973
Speaker 24: a way you go, that's the end of the eggs.

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01:14:17,093 --> 01:14:19,973
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, right, So I have been I mean I have.

1465
01:14:20,333 --> 01:14:22,733
Speaker 3: I've used the fly spray as you suggested. I've also

1466
01:14:22,853 --> 01:14:27,933
Speaker 3: used knee oil, but that's kind of too late for yeah, yeah, okay,

1467
01:14:28,013 --> 01:14:31,333
Speaker 3: all right, Well here in next few weeks in Yep,

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01:14:32,613 --> 01:14:34,973
Speaker 3: when it comes on my tomato plants, powdery mildew, I

1469
01:14:35,013 --> 01:14:36,693
Speaker 3: know is always a bit of an issue. So I

1470
01:14:36,853 --> 01:14:41,373
Speaker 3: managed to have one tomato plant got powder and mildew.

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01:14:41,373 --> 01:14:43,253
Speaker 3: I tried to control it with a bit of a

1472
01:14:43,253 --> 01:14:45,653
Speaker 3: copper spray and stuff. But the other tomato plant I've

1473
01:14:45,693 --> 01:14:47,373
Speaker 3: managed to keep clear for the time being. But this

1474
01:14:47,493 --> 01:14:49,973
Speaker 3: is obviously something that affects a lot of people as well.

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01:14:51,013 --> 01:14:55,133
Speaker 24: Absolutely, and there's a lot of hosts that get powdery mildew. Cucumbers,

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01:14:55,173 --> 01:14:58,573
Speaker 24: pump can squash your name without drangers, beans, grapes, apples,

1477
01:14:58,613 --> 01:15:01,773
Speaker 24: you name it. The idea is for you to actually

1478
01:15:01,893 --> 01:15:06,173
Speaker 24: keep that spray up every two or three weeks because copper,

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01:15:06,533 --> 01:15:09,653
Speaker 24: copper and sell from mixes are really good to stop

1480
01:15:09,733 --> 01:15:13,813
Speaker 24: the boadymild you taking hold of your plants. And that

1481
01:15:13,933 --> 01:15:16,693
Speaker 24: goes for all the things I mentioned, And this is

1482
01:15:16,733 --> 01:15:19,573
Speaker 24: probably a good idea to keep it going. And seeing

1483
01:15:19,613 --> 01:15:26,253
Speaker 24: that the copper and and the other things are actually organic,

1484
01:15:26,373 --> 01:15:29,653
Speaker 24: you don't have any worries about plants that you harvest

1485
01:15:30,133 --> 01:15:33,493
Speaker 24: your food from, so use them like that. Yeah, and again,

1486
01:15:33,773 --> 01:15:35,813
Speaker 24: now's the time to start looking for these things on

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01:15:35,853 --> 01:15:37,853
Speaker 24: the leaves. And as soon as you see the little

1488
01:15:37,933 --> 01:15:41,053
Speaker 24: white spots copper and sulfur sprays the same sort of

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01:15:41,133 --> 01:15:44,013
Speaker 24: things nature's wave fungals pray from the agh for instance.

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01:15:44,413 --> 01:15:50,453
Speaker 24: That'll stop it from literally becoming a nasty situation.

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01:15:50,893 --> 01:15:51,933
Speaker 5: Later, yeah, later.

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01:15:52,253 --> 01:15:56,573
Speaker 24: What about caterpillars, Well, this is the time for all

1493
01:15:56,613 --> 01:15:59,413
Speaker 24: the caterpillars, as you will know, We've got you got

1494
01:15:59,453 --> 01:16:01,413
Speaker 24: your full army. Where I'm all over the place, in

1495
01:16:01,453 --> 01:16:03,693
Speaker 24: the north. You guys have it. We don't yet in

1496
01:16:03,773 --> 01:16:08,133
Speaker 24: Christ it and hopefully won't get it. Tomato fruit, women,

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01:16:08,293 --> 01:16:12,453
Speaker 24: white butterfly for instance, and green loopers, all those things

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Speaker 24: love your garden. And those caterpillars are omnivores, they'll eat anything.

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01:16:18,853 --> 01:16:21,373
Speaker 24: Here comes to nice thing. We've got some rather new

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01:16:22,173 --> 01:16:25,293
Speaker 24: insecticides that you can use on caterpillars that are safe

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01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:28,973
Speaker 24: to use because you won't, for instance, kill all the

1502
01:16:29,053 --> 01:16:31,813
Speaker 24: predators and parasites that also help to control them.

1503
01:16:32,253 --> 01:16:35,973
Speaker 7: The material is Yet's success Ultra right.

1504
01:16:36,293 --> 01:16:41,653
Speaker 24: And then there is a diamide insecticide called Chlorontra nillipro

1505
01:16:42,573 --> 01:16:46,333
Speaker 24: lovely word clorantra and nilli pro and that comes in

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01:16:46,373 --> 01:16:49,893
Speaker 24: the version of loan grub Control, in the version of

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01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:54,733
Speaker 24: turf insecticides, and lif roller and coddling moth sprays called

1508
01:16:54,853 --> 01:16:59,573
Speaker 24: Alta Core. All these rotter names will be on the

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01:16:59,613 --> 01:17:02,213
Speaker 24: website so everybody can look that up. But the most

1510
01:17:02,253 --> 01:17:05,413
Speaker 24: important thing is to look for those things now and

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01:17:05,493 --> 01:17:09,253
Speaker 24: make sure that you get and before the statuting everything up.

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01:17:09,613 --> 01:17:12,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I am listening to you. I promise you

1513
01:17:12,373 --> 01:17:14,773
Speaker 3: I've heard that information has gone into my brain because

1514
01:17:14,813 --> 01:17:16,853
Speaker 3: apparently I've not been very good at acting in a

1515
01:17:16,893 --> 01:17:19,773
Speaker 3: timely manner. I know what problems are in the garden now.

1516
01:17:19,893 --> 01:17:21,693
Speaker 3: I can get that, but the problem is getting to

1517
01:17:21,733 --> 01:17:23,853
Speaker 3: them at the right stage, which is always going to

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01:17:23,893 --> 01:17:26,573
Speaker 3: be my issue. Thank you so much, road.

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01:17:26,453 --> 01:17:28,933
Speaker 24: Jack, listen, you've got other things on your mind and

1520
01:17:29,013 --> 01:17:30,173
Speaker 24: the best things in the world.

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01:17:30,293 --> 01:17:30,893
Speaker 5: Get on with it.

1522
01:17:30,973 --> 01:17:33,493
Speaker 3: That's true, that's true. Hey, thank you so much. We

1523
01:17:33,533 --> 01:17:35,693
Speaker 3: will catch again next week in real climb past in

1524
01:17:35,733 --> 01:17:39,533
Speaker 3: the garden. Hey, thanks for all your messages. Deb is

1525
01:17:39,613 --> 01:17:44,613
Speaker 3: completely disregarding that savings advice from our money guys. She says, OMG, Jack,

1526
01:17:44,693 --> 01:17:47,493
Speaker 3: come on, go and splash out on a flash coffee machine.

1527
01:17:47,493 --> 01:17:50,693
Speaker 3: You won't regret it. Jack, stick with your stovetop. This

1528
01:17:50,893 --> 01:17:53,973
Speaker 3: is more Jack who needs a shiny, chrome, elaborate bling

1529
01:17:54,053 --> 01:17:55,853
Speaker 3: on the bench toop. As far as I'm concerned, your

1530
01:17:55,893 --> 01:18:00,253
Speaker 3: stovetop b Aletti sounds gorgeously simplistic, boutique and authentic. You

1531
01:18:00,293 --> 01:18:02,973
Speaker 3: can travel with it, and it makes beautiful coffee too.

1532
01:18:03,053 --> 01:18:03,213
Speaker 7: Right.

1533
01:18:03,613 --> 01:18:06,333
Speaker 3: News is next, It's almost eleven o'clock. Gone News Dogs.

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01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:11,413
Speaker 1: Edit Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going

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Speaker 3: Hi Jack, go for it. I say it's time for

1538
01:18:42,773 --> 01:18:45,453
Speaker 3: you and the Faro to step up to an Espisso machine.

1539
01:18:45,493 --> 01:18:48,573
Speaker 3: We have two. We've decided we've graduated from a plunger,

1540
01:18:48,613 --> 01:18:50,733
Speaker 3: then too a stovetop, now to a seven hundred dollar

1541
01:18:50,853 --> 01:18:54,573
Speaker 3: bribal machine. You don't need a super super expensive several

1542
01:18:54,653 --> 01:18:59,253
Speaker 3: thousand dollars machine. And honestly it's magic now coffee tastes

1543
01:18:59,253 --> 01:19:01,733
Speaker 3: better than at most cafes. We're avid cyclists. We've been

1544
01:19:01,733 --> 01:19:03,653
Speaker 3: to most of the cafes and the whole of Auckland.

1545
01:19:04,053 --> 01:19:08,453
Speaker 3: My wife, like you, mounted the bench space arguments and

1546
01:19:08,573 --> 01:19:10,853
Speaker 3: yes you do need to find some extra bench space,

1547
01:19:10,853 --> 01:19:12,333
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day it is worth

1548
01:19:12,733 --> 01:19:15,413
Speaker 3: worth it. And in our case, the payback period was

1549
01:19:15,493 --> 01:19:17,893
Speaker 3: less than six months. Thank you for that. Ninety two

1550
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Speaker 3: ninety two. If you want to flick me a text

1551
01:19:20,213 --> 01:19:22,813
Speaker 3: like that or jacketews zeb dot co dot in the

1552
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Speaker 3: it is my email address.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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01:19:24,053 --> 01:19:26,893
Speaker 3: I love Coast to Coast weekend the Coast to coast.

1555
01:19:27,093 --> 01:19:29,213
Speaker 3: It's just I know, I think we can use the

1556
01:19:29,293 --> 01:19:31,813
Speaker 3: term iconic. Always nervous about using the term iconic, but

1557
01:19:31,853 --> 01:19:35,213
Speaker 3: I think it is worthy of it. It is such

1558
01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:38,093
Speaker 3: an exciting time and you see those athletes going over

1559
01:19:39,053 --> 01:19:44,253
Speaker 3: going over goat pass. It's just absolutely amazing seeing them compete.

1560
01:19:44,253 --> 01:19:45,493
Speaker 3: So we're going to make sure we keep you up

1561
01:19:45,493 --> 01:19:48,573
Speaker 3: to date throughout the day as the Longest Day continues.

1562
01:19:49,053 --> 01:19:52,533
Speaker 3: Before midday, a brand new book by this author, David McCloskey,

1563
01:19:52,573 --> 01:19:55,373
Speaker 3: that I'm really excited to hear about. He is the

1564
01:19:55,453 --> 01:19:58,533
Speaker 3: host of a podcast that I listened to called The

1565
01:19:58,573 --> 01:20:02,733
Speaker 3: Rest Is Classified. I'm a real geek for spy in

1566
01:20:03,053 --> 01:20:06,493
Speaker 3: espionage related content in any way, he's a four I'm

1567
01:20:06,533 --> 01:20:11,613
Speaker 3: a CIA case officer who has since become an author

1568
01:20:11,653 --> 01:20:14,133
Speaker 3: of fiction and all of his books are you know,

1569
01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:17,013
Speaker 3: spy books and espionage books. So anyways, just release this

1570
01:20:17,053 --> 01:20:18,453
Speaker 3: brand new book. We're going to hear a little bit

1571
01:20:18,453 --> 01:20:20,333
Speaker 3: about that perform mid day right now, though it is

1572
01:20:20,413 --> 01:20:21,813
Speaker 3: nine minutes past eleven.

1573
01:20:22,413 --> 01:20:22,813
Speaker 5: Check two.

1574
01:20:23,093 --> 01:20:26,373
Speaker 3: Time to catch up with our sustainability commentator Kate Hall

1575
01:20:26,533 --> 01:20:30,933
Speaker 3: aka Ethically Kate More Dinner. Yeah very well, thanks. You're

1576
01:20:30,933 --> 01:20:33,933
Speaker 3: about to embark on a nationwide tour and are you

1577
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:36,213
Speaker 3: still going to be all likely all over the place

1578
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:37,373
Speaker 3: over the next couple of months.

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01:20:37,653 --> 01:20:44,693
Speaker 18: Yes, yeah, literally From Auckland, tod On topau Wellington, Nelson,

1580
01:20:45,053 --> 01:20:48,373
Speaker 18: down to Dunda and Queenstown everywhere.

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01:20:48,373 --> 01:20:49,053
Speaker 5: Really fantastic.

1582
01:20:49,133 --> 01:20:49,653
Speaker 3: What are you doing?

1583
01:20:50,533 --> 01:20:53,413
Speaker 18: So we're going on this is our fifth tour. I

1584
01:20:53,533 --> 01:20:56,093
Speaker 18: do a lot of work online, but I really am

1585
01:20:56,213 --> 01:20:59,773
Speaker 18: in person person. So we are hosting many kind of

1586
01:20:59,773 --> 01:21:03,653
Speaker 18: community focused free events that people can come along meet us,

1587
01:21:03,893 --> 01:21:08,333
Speaker 18: play some picnic games, do it, permaculture farm, visit with us,

1588
01:21:09,253 --> 01:21:12,493
Speaker 18: you know, get stuck in a local community gardens. Yea,

1589
01:21:12,573 --> 01:21:16,533
Speaker 18: A real variety of events that come along term and

1590
01:21:16,573 --> 01:21:17,573
Speaker 18: bring anyone they want to.

1591
01:21:17,733 --> 01:21:19,933
Speaker 3: That's that's awesome. Oh very good. Okay, well I look

1592
01:21:19,973 --> 01:21:22,853
Speaker 3: forward to hearing about the tour as that continues. But

1593
01:21:22,933 --> 01:21:25,573
Speaker 3: this morning we wanted to talk about navigating kind of

1594
01:21:25,613 --> 01:21:30,253
Speaker 3: differences of philosophy or opinion when it comes to sustainability,

1595
01:21:30,293 --> 01:21:32,333
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of like a lot of

1596
01:21:32,373 --> 01:21:35,173
Speaker 3: couples often have one person who might be a bit

1597
01:21:35,253 --> 01:21:39,533
Speaker 3: more like sustainably minded than another one, right, and it

1598
01:21:39,573 --> 01:21:41,413
Speaker 3: can lead to a little bit of conflict from time

1599
01:21:41,453 --> 01:21:44,293
Speaker 3: to time. Is that your experience, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 18: I mean I'm very lucky I kind of my my

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01:21:47,213 --> 01:21:51,053
Speaker 18: immediate family and to my husband on board with a

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01:21:51,093 --> 01:21:54,253
Speaker 18: lot of things I do. But you know, I still

1603
01:21:54,733 --> 01:21:57,733
Speaker 18: engage with you know, friends or people we meet at

1604
01:21:57,773 --> 01:22:02,093
Speaker 18: parties or you know, distant relatives at barbecues where you know,

1605
01:22:02,173 --> 01:22:05,173
Speaker 18: even if you're not the person who's standing there preaching

1606
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:08,773
Speaker 18: over a barb cute about you know, how we should

1607
01:22:09,573 --> 01:22:12,693
Speaker 18: look after the planet more just by kind of existing

1608
01:22:12,773 --> 01:22:17,413
Speaker 18: with those values, can we really tiresome and can kind

1609
01:22:17,413 --> 01:22:21,093
Speaker 18: of take that that social energy and tax I get

1610
01:22:21,133 --> 01:22:24,253
Speaker 18: asked a lot from people who you know, have watched

1611
01:22:24,253 --> 01:22:26,453
Speaker 18: a documentary and they're really stoked.

1612
01:22:26,013 --> 01:22:29,013
Speaker 19: To live to their to their values.

1613
01:22:28,813 --> 01:22:33,613
Speaker 18: But they just come up against hard conversations which you know,

1614
01:22:33,733 --> 01:22:37,013
Speaker 18: full of conflicts no one wants that, or just have

1615
01:22:37,133 --> 01:22:41,653
Speaker 18: partners who it just drives a wedge between them. Yeah,

1616
01:22:41,773 --> 01:22:45,853
Speaker 18: you know, I've had moments where, yeah, I've sometimes got

1617
01:22:45,853 --> 01:22:48,333
Speaker 18: it right, sometimes got it wrong about how I navigate

1618
01:22:48,373 --> 01:22:51,893
Speaker 18: different situations. Yeah, And you know, it's been eight years

1619
01:22:51,933 --> 01:22:54,773
Speaker 18: of me kind of living as extually Kate and sharing

1620
01:22:54,773 --> 01:22:57,293
Speaker 18: about this. But I'm I'm always trying. But I'd like

1621
01:22:57,333 --> 01:22:59,373
Speaker 18: to think that I've kind of come up with some

1622
01:22:59,453 --> 01:23:02,693
Speaker 18: ways that when people say, oh my gosh, you know,

1623
01:23:02,733 --> 01:23:05,213
Speaker 18: how do I navigate this with my partner or my

1624
01:23:05,333 --> 01:23:08,653
Speaker 18: friends or you know, like, yeah, what do I do that?

1625
01:23:08,933 --> 01:23:11,533
Speaker 18: I've kind of got a bit of a handle on it.

1626
01:23:11,613 --> 01:23:13,213
Speaker 3: Yeah right, okay, so run us through some of those

1627
01:23:13,253 --> 01:23:16,093
Speaker 3: tips start off with lead with positivity.

1628
01:23:16,333 --> 01:23:20,733
Speaker 18: Yes, So one thing I find is to not point

1629
01:23:20,813 --> 01:23:24,893
Speaker 18: fingers or start in a negative space, so that, for example,

1630
01:23:25,013 --> 01:23:30,133
Speaker 18: is wait for the positive conversation conversation to come to you. So,

1631
01:23:30,693 --> 01:23:33,293
Speaker 18: for example, instead of saying, oh my gosh, is that

1632
01:23:33,453 --> 01:23:37,093
Speaker 18: shirt from Glassons? Didn't you know? That is the main

1633
01:23:37,093 --> 01:23:41,813
Speaker 18: fashion polluters to wait for a moment where someone says, oh,

1634
01:23:41,853 --> 01:23:44,093
Speaker 18: I really like your top, and then you can talk about,

1635
01:23:44,173 --> 01:23:46,533
Speaker 18: you know, the ethical story behind it or the fact

1636
01:23:46,533 --> 01:23:50,893
Speaker 18: that it's secondhand or you know, your friends for you something.

1637
01:23:50,613 --> 01:23:53,253
Speaker 3: Like that, as opposed to kind of being preachy.

1638
01:23:53,013 --> 01:23:57,253
Speaker 18: Totally totally and you're you're actually waiting for other people

1639
01:23:57,733 --> 01:24:02,053
Speaker 18: to kind of condone and consent to that conversation rather

1640
01:24:02,133 --> 01:24:05,133
Speaker 18: than being the instigator of it, because I think that

1641
01:24:05,253 --> 01:24:08,893
Speaker 18: is really tiresome. There's a different opinion, and they're constantly

1642
01:24:09,253 --> 01:24:12,373
Speaker 18: trying to push their own agenda on you. No one

1643
01:24:12,413 --> 01:24:16,453
Speaker 18: wants that, Like immediately the conversation is shut down. There's

1644
01:24:16,493 --> 01:24:19,533
Speaker 18: no room for talking back and forth. So lead with

1645
01:24:19,573 --> 01:24:23,093
Speaker 18: the positive angle about like what good stuff is happening,

1646
01:24:23,253 --> 01:24:26,973
Speaker 18: and make sure the conversation is consented by the other person.

1647
01:24:27,213 --> 01:24:27,453
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1648
01:24:27,613 --> 01:24:30,733
Speaker 3: I think if I've learned anything from from working as

1649
01:24:30,733 --> 01:24:34,133
Speaker 3: a political journalist, it's that you can't kind of shame

1650
01:24:34,533 --> 01:24:37,933
Speaker 3: people into nothing, you know, into lifestyle changes like you,

1651
01:24:38,573 --> 01:24:41,613
Speaker 3: and you know it changes in society more broadly, like you.

1652
01:24:41,933 --> 01:24:45,813
Speaker 3: You really want to you know, you kind of you

1653
01:24:46,333 --> 01:24:48,893
Speaker 3: want to bring people with you, as opposed to as

1654
01:24:48,893 --> 01:24:50,733
Speaker 3: opposed to barking at them. So I think that's a

1655
01:24:50,733 --> 01:24:52,973
Speaker 3: really good one. Focusing on what you control.

1656
01:24:53,493 --> 01:24:55,413
Speaker 19: You can't control so exactly.

1657
01:24:55,693 --> 01:24:58,573
Speaker 18: You know, I can't control the fact that my husband

1658
01:24:58,613 --> 01:25:03,893
Speaker 18: Tim loves Vogels Sammige bread for his breakfast, like and

1659
01:25:04,013 --> 01:25:06,333
Speaker 18: sure it's in a plastic bag. Absolutely, I would have

1660
01:25:06,493 --> 01:25:09,133
Speaker 18: loves to have gone down to the bakery and use

1661
01:25:09,213 --> 01:25:12,693
Speaker 18: my own cotton bag and you know him to get

1662
01:25:12,693 --> 01:25:15,053
Speaker 18: bred that way. But that's something that's his choice.

1663
01:25:15,333 --> 01:25:15,573
Speaker 10: I'm not.

1664
01:25:16,373 --> 01:25:19,973
Speaker 18: I'm not you know, completing my values in his life.

1665
01:25:21,373 --> 01:25:21,653
Speaker 5: Again.

1666
01:25:22,133 --> 01:25:26,253
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, you have plaster on your toes, how could

1667
01:25:26,333 --> 01:25:29,093
Speaker 18: you know? So that's something that's out of my control,

1668
01:25:29,173 --> 01:25:30,893
Speaker 18: and that's not up to me. Not up to me

1669
01:25:31,013 --> 01:25:34,933
Speaker 18: to change, so I can focus on, you know, what

1670
01:25:35,013 --> 01:25:38,453
Speaker 18: I eat for atfist instead, I can focus on you

1671
01:25:38,493 --> 01:25:41,373
Speaker 18: know what sustainable toilet trees I have in use. I

1672
01:25:41,413 --> 01:25:44,773
Speaker 18: can focus on other things that are within my control,

1673
01:25:44,813 --> 01:25:46,853
Speaker 18: which I think is a really important one for people

1674
01:25:46,933 --> 01:25:49,733
Speaker 18: who live with others. You know a lot of people

1675
01:25:49,813 --> 01:25:54,653
Speaker 18: have flatmates or family members can get really quite frustrated

1676
01:25:54,653 --> 01:25:59,413
Speaker 18: at observing unsustainable behavior every day. But that is someone

1677
01:25:59,453 --> 01:26:01,933
Speaker 18: else's life and it's not up to you to judge

1678
01:26:02,053 --> 01:26:04,853
Speaker 18: or control it. And I can actually guarantee if you're

1679
01:26:04,933 --> 01:26:07,373
Speaker 18: just trying to control what you can and doing that

1680
01:26:07,413 --> 01:26:10,293
Speaker 18: in a really positive way, people are going to see

1681
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:12,813
Speaker 18: what you're doing and probably ask you questions about it

1682
01:26:12,813 --> 01:26:17,253
Speaker 18: and potentially switch to that change anywhere. So yeah, focus

1683
01:26:17,293 --> 01:26:19,693
Speaker 18: on those things and that will make you feel more

1684
01:26:21,013 --> 01:26:25,733
Speaker 18: I guess, yeah, less kind of anxious or upset too

1685
01:26:25,813 --> 01:26:27,133
Speaker 18: by the stuff that.

1686
01:26:27,093 --> 01:26:28,853
Speaker 3: You can't and then that kind of leads in to

1687
01:26:28,893 --> 01:26:30,693
Speaker 3: the next one, showing a bit of grace for others.

1688
01:26:31,693 --> 01:26:35,453
Speaker 18: Totally, absolutely, And I you know, I preach this whole

1689
01:26:35,573 --> 01:26:39,453
Speaker 18: don't judge, don't look in other people's supermarket shopping trolley

1690
01:26:39,533 --> 01:26:42,013
Speaker 18: and things like that, But obviously, you know when I

1691
01:26:42,053 --> 01:26:44,213
Speaker 18: have learned and known so much over the last eight

1692
01:26:44,293 --> 01:26:48,213
Speaker 18: years of researching and being in this space. I can't

1693
01:26:48,213 --> 01:26:51,093
Speaker 18: help sometimes, you know, have a little thoughts across my

1694
01:26:51,173 --> 01:26:55,373
Speaker 18: mind around that person could just easily, you know, learn

1695
01:26:55,493 --> 01:26:58,693
Speaker 18: how to you know, what things go on and recycling.

1696
01:26:58,733 --> 01:27:04,133
Speaker 18: Then like that's actually given grace to everyone and to

1697
01:27:04,213 --> 01:27:07,133
Speaker 18: yourself and knowing that we can do what we can do.

1698
01:27:07,453 --> 01:27:11,253
Speaker 18: It's actually not up to you know, just individuals to

1699
01:27:11,333 --> 01:27:15,013
Speaker 18: make these changes. There are big corporates and government that

1700
01:27:15,173 --> 01:27:16,973
Speaker 18: all need to kind of come to the party as well.

1701
01:27:17,093 --> 01:27:22,653
Speaker 18: So knowing that, yeah, just because you need to buy

1702
01:27:22,693 --> 01:27:25,253
Speaker 18: a plastic drink bottle of water because you forgot your

1703
01:27:25,253 --> 01:27:28,493
Speaker 18: reusable bottle and you really just need water otherwise you're

1704
01:27:28,493 --> 01:27:32,533
Speaker 18: going to get dehydrated, Yeah, it's actually giving yourself grace,

1705
01:27:32,613 --> 01:27:35,053
Speaker 18: giving the other people in your life that as well.

1706
01:27:35,173 --> 01:27:37,573
Speaker 3: In your final tip, I suppose relates to your nation

1707
01:27:37,693 --> 01:27:41,813
Speaker 3: wide tour at the moment, build a supportive circle exactly.

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01:27:42,013 --> 01:27:44,613
Speaker 18: So I think this is a tough one because some

1709
01:27:44,653 --> 01:27:46,893
Speaker 18: people build such a support of circle that they find

1710
01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:50,213
Speaker 18: themselves in a little kind of echo chamber of the

1711
01:27:50,293 --> 01:27:53,013
Speaker 18: thoughts that they want to hear. I guess that's the same.

1712
01:27:53,293 --> 01:27:55,853
Speaker 18: You probably find a lot with politics and things like that, right,

1713
01:27:55,893 --> 01:27:58,613
Speaker 18: we can. Here's just what we want to But I

1714
01:27:58,613 --> 01:28:01,653
Speaker 18: think there's a great balance between having people in your

1715
01:28:01,653 --> 01:28:05,733
Speaker 18: life who share your value, support your values, live similar

1716
01:28:05,853 --> 01:28:11,573
Speaker 18: to you. But also obviously keeping conversation open with other

1717
01:28:11,573 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 18: people who disagree is really really helpful just for any

1718
01:28:15,173 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 18: topic really. But that's part of why we're doing the

1719
01:28:19,333 --> 01:28:21,733
Speaker 18: tour in these events, because I think sometimes it can

1720
01:28:21,773 --> 01:28:26,293
Speaker 18: feel overwhelming, like you're always kind of going against the grain,

1721
01:28:26,693 --> 01:28:30,733
Speaker 18: and when you come together and just share a picnic

1722
01:28:31,413 --> 01:28:35,293
Speaker 18: and spend time with people who share your values, that

1723
01:28:35,373 --> 01:28:38,653
Speaker 18: can just be you know, the little moment and cutfuling

1724
01:28:38,773 --> 01:28:40,733
Speaker 18: kind of Yeah, I can still do this, I can

1725
01:28:40,773 --> 01:28:44,613
Speaker 18: still try my best in terms of sustainable living. Yeah,

1726
01:28:44,653 --> 01:28:45,973
Speaker 18: it's important, very good.

1727
01:28:46,093 --> 01:28:48,533
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks Kay, Good luck with a tour. Obviously you'll

1728
01:28:48,573 --> 01:28:51,213
Speaker 3: keep us up to speed. Is that continues. You can

1729
01:28:51,253 --> 01:28:54,293
Speaker 3: find Kate on all the social media platforms by searching

1730
01:28:54,493 --> 01:28:58,293
Speaker 3: ethically Kate. Right now, it is seventeen minutes past eleven.

1731
01:28:58,373 --> 01:29:02,013
Speaker 3: Our travel correspondent has returned to California for the first

1732
01:29:02,053 --> 01:29:04,293
Speaker 3: time since the big fires. He's going to tell us

1733
01:29:04,293 --> 01:29:06,573
Speaker 3: how Malibu is shaping up in a couple of minutes.

1734
01:29:08,293 --> 01:29:11,573
Speaker 1: Travel with Windy Woo Tours. Where the world is yours

1735
01:29:11,693 --> 01:29:12,333
Speaker 1: for now.

1736
01:29:12,733 --> 01:29:19,173
Speaker 3: Mike Yardley's out of travel, corresponding he's with us this morning. Hey, Mike, I'm.

1737
01:29:19,013 --> 01:29:26,373
Speaker 5: Doing the Coast to Coast check again. Dreams are free.

1738
01:29:26,413 --> 01:29:28,133
Speaker 3: I love Coast to Coast day. I love Coast to

1739
01:29:28,173 --> 01:29:29,933
Speaker 3: Coast weekend because it is a bit of a weekend,

1740
01:29:29,973 --> 01:29:31,453
Speaker 3: depending on if you're doing the two day of the

1741
01:29:31,493 --> 01:29:35,333
Speaker 3: team or the or the or the longest day. But yeah,

1742
01:29:35,333 --> 01:29:37,773
Speaker 3: we used to sometimes go out to Sumner, you know,

1743
01:29:37,853 --> 01:29:40,533
Speaker 3: as the as the computers were making their way in,

1744
01:29:40,573 --> 01:29:42,733
Speaker 3: and because they don't close down all of the roads,

1745
01:29:42,773 --> 01:29:45,173
Speaker 3: often you sort of passing Coast to Coast cyclists and

1746
01:29:45,173 --> 01:29:47,653
Speaker 3: stuff as they make their way through the final speech

1747
01:29:47,653 --> 01:29:49,653
Speaker 3: in the city. It's some year. It's a it's an

1748
01:29:49,773 --> 01:29:52,933
Speaker 3: exciting weekend, to say the least. Hey, my big update

1749
01:29:52,973 --> 01:29:54,973
Speaker 3: since this time last week is that we haven't had

1750
01:29:55,013 --> 01:29:57,493
Speaker 3: a baby yet. Tell me that you've got an update.

1751
01:29:57,533 --> 01:30:00,853
Speaker 3: Tell me that you have finally taken down your Christmas decorations.

1752
01:30:01,213 --> 01:30:03,773
Speaker 5: Oh I thought my update was I haven't had a baby.

1753
01:30:05,213 --> 01:30:07,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. There's two of us in

1754
01:30:07,053 --> 01:30:07,693
Speaker 3: that Department.

1755
01:30:08,653 --> 01:30:11,613
Speaker 5: Yes, Christmas is down, Jack, send us back in his box.

1756
01:30:11,733 --> 01:30:13,533
Speaker 3: I guess all right now, I'm glad to hear it.

1757
01:30:13,573 --> 01:30:16,613
Speaker 3: I'm glad that it's finally finally been wrapped up. Anyway,

1758
01:30:16,653 --> 01:30:20,453
Speaker 3: this morning, we are focusing on California, and obviously this

1759
01:30:20,533 --> 01:30:22,893
Speaker 3: year has got off to an absolute horror start with

1760
01:30:22,933 --> 01:30:26,933
Speaker 3: those incredible fires around Los Angeles and Malibu. So you've

1761
01:30:26,933 --> 01:30:30,773
Speaker 3: been to Malibu. How mangled was Malibu by the fires?

1762
01:30:31,773 --> 01:30:34,213
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's really interesting, Jack, because it is hard to

1763
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:38,173
Speaker 25: get a full true sense of it by the television

1764
01:30:38,173 --> 01:30:41,293
Speaker 25: coverage because, as you know, Malibu is actually a massive area.

1765
01:30:41,413 --> 01:30:42,853
Speaker 5: It stretches for.

1766
01:30:42,493 --> 01:30:48,013
Speaker 25: Forty k that coastline, the stretch below Pacific Palisades, eastern

1767
01:30:48,013 --> 01:30:51,373
Speaker 25: Malibu that was caught in the firing line. So about

1768
01:30:51,373 --> 01:30:55,653
Speaker 25: a third of eastern Malibu's beach frontimes and businesses were

1769
01:30:55,693 --> 01:31:00,693
Speaker 25: torched or incinerated. And sadly that included some really legendary

1770
01:31:00,773 --> 01:31:04,733
Speaker 25: eateries like Moonshadows and a place like Real and I

1771
01:31:04,973 --> 01:31:07,293
Speaker 25: ate it reel in last year and it's like this

1772
01:31:07,413 --> 01:31:11,093
Speaker 25: old school seafood check on the Pacific Coast Highway. So yeah,

1773
01:31:11,093 --> 01:31:14,933
Speaker 25: that's now just a pile of ashes, but beyond eastern Malibu.

1774
01:31:15,013 --> 01:31:18,053
Speaker 25: The really good thing Jack and what Malibu wants to

1775
01:31:18,853 --> 01:31:22,653
Speaker 25: like scream to the world is we are open and

1776
01:31:22,733 --> 01:31:26,093
Speaker 25: we are welcoming back the world. So the vast bulk

1777
01:31:26,133 --> 01:31:27,293
Speaker 25: of Malibu is good to go.

1778
01:31:27,453 --> 01:31:29,533
Speaker 3: Okay, So what about the Getty Villa?

1779
01:31:30,853 --> 01:31:33,013
Speaker 5: So lucky man, this was lucky.

1780
01:31:33,093 --> 01:31:36,773
Speaker 25: So, as some of the television covered showed, it was

1781
01:31:37,053 --> 01:31:40,853
Speaker 25: right on the edge of that fire zone, and some

1782
01:31:41,533 --> 01:31:45,493
Speaker 25: of the trees and foliage around the villa were cinched,

1783
01:31:45,573 --> 01:31:49,453
Speaker 25: but the villa itself narrowly escaped destruction for a couple

1784
01:31:49,533 --> 01:31:54,053
Speaker 25: of reasons. They actually have a one billion dollar fire

1785
01:31:54,173 --> 01:31:57,893
Speaker 25: prevention system built into the Getty Villa, so it's sort

1786
01:31:57,893 --> 01:32:00,733
Speaker 25: of like firewalls on a gigantic scale and so forth.

1787
01:32:00,933 --> 01:32:05,013
Speaker 25: They also, unlike other parts of California, have done very

1788
01:32:05,133 --> 01:32:11,093
Speaker 25: vigorous rush clearance in recent years, so they reckon that's

1789
01:32:11,093 --> 01:32:14,773
Speaker 25: what actually saved a lot of their site. Yeah, the

1790
01:32:14,893 --> 01:32:17,693
Speaker 25: villa is actually still closed because of the problems with

1791
01:32:17,733 --> 01:32:21,733
Speaker 25: the Pacific Coast Highway with debris removal and getting a

1792
01:32:21,733 --> 01:32:25,453
Speaker 25: lot of those gas lines repaired. So they are hoping

1793
01:32:25,493 --> 01:32:28,253
Speaker 25: to reopen in about a month or so, but definitely

1794
01:32:28,293 --> 01:32:28,653
Speaker 25: go there.

1795
01:32:28,693 --> 01:32:30,613
Speaker 5: It is such a stunning museum.

1796
01:32:30,973 --> 01:32:34,173
Speaker 25: The whole villa was sort of built as a replica

1797
01:32:34,333 --> 01:32:39,173
Speaker 25: of Villa day Papai, which was buried two thousand years

1798
01:32:39,213 --> 01:32:43,893
Speaker 25: ago in the Vesuvius eruption. It's got about fifty thousand Greek,

1799
01:32:44,013 --> 01:32:48,253
Speaker 25: Roman and Etruscan antiquities inside the museum. I spent all

1800
01:32:48,373 --> 01:32:52,893
Speaker 25: day there last year, late last year, and it really

1801
01:32:53,093 --> 01:32:55,293
Speaker 25: is quite a tantalizing attraction.

1802
01:32:55,493 --> 01:32:58,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. Nice, okay, okay, that's really good to hear, really

1803
01:32:58,133 --> 01:33:01,813
Speaker 3: good to hear it. Now, the Malibu Piir also emerged unscathed.

1804
01:33:02,613 --> 01:33:06,013
Speaker 25: Oh yes, so, I mean there were so many landmarks

1805
01:33:06,013 --> 01:33:07,413
Speaker 25: along the Malibu coastline.

1806
01:33:07,413 --> 01:33:09,373
Speaker 5: But the Peer really is the great glory.

1807
01:33:09,413 --> 01:33:12,093
Speaker 25: It's one hundred and twenty years old, that peer, and

1808
01:33:12,333 --> 01:33:14,773
Speaker 25: I love those Cape cod style twin towers at the

1809
01:33:14,853 --> 01:33:15,773
Speaker 25: end of it.

1810
01:33:15,773 --> 01:33:16,893
Speaker 5: It is fully reopen.

1811
01:33:17,253 --> 01:33:20,573
Speaker 25: You've got carbon Beach on one side, surf rider beach

1812
01:33:20,653 --> 01:33:23,373
Speaker 25: on the other. I just think it is Malibu in

1813
01:33:23,493 --> 01:33:26,133
Speaker 25: one moment to take a stroll along that Peer, and

1814
01:33:26,453 --> 01:33:28,173
Speaker 25: I'll tell you what, Jack, when I was down there,

1815
01:33:28,493 --> 01:33:31,013
Speaker 25: I couldn't decide who was having the most fun, the

1816
01:33:31,093 --> 01:33:35,973
Speaker 25: surfers or the dolphins, because they were both just frolicking

1817
01:33:36,853 --> 01:33:39,853
Speaker 25: in the waves big time. Then there's the fishing chatting

1818
01:33:39,893 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 25: to the locals. They were busy reling in halibate, corbina

1819
01:33:43,173 --> 01:33:45,453
Speaker 25: and mackerel. And if you do want to have a

1820
01:33:45,613 --> 01:33:47,853
Speaker 25: try at the old fishing scene there there is a

1821
01:33:47,893 --> 01:33:49,773
Speaker 25: really cool rod rental shop at the end of the peer,

1822
01:33:50,053 --> 01:33:52,133
Speaker 25: the Basin Tackle Shop next to the cafe.

1823
01:33:52,453 --> 01:33:55,293
Speaker 3: Nice. Okay, what would you recommend for food? What are

1824
01:33:55,293 --> 01:33:56,253
Speaker 3: the good eats to Malibu?

1825
01:33:57,133 --> 01:34:00,133
Speaker 25: Well, on that peer that they actually have two really

1826
01:34:00,173 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 25: good venues. So at the far end you've got the

1827
01:34:02,173 --> 01:34:05,613
Speaker 25: Malibu Farm Cafe that's all farm fresh, fair, local, organic,

1828
01:34:05,653 --> 01:34:09,093
Speaker 25: blah blah blah. You can go wrong with the coliflower

1829
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:12,533
Speaker 25: pizza and the lobster rolls. And then at the pear

1830
01:34:12,813 --> 01:34:16,173
Speaker 25: entrance the Malibu Farm Restaurant, which is a fancier affair.

1831
01:34:16,453 --> 01:34:19,693
Speaker 25: It's got this whitewashed dining room ocean side patago bar.

1832
01:34:20,173 --> 01:34:23,053
Speaker 25: That's the place to go. I reckon for freshly squeezed

1833
01:34:23,293 --> 01:34:26,853
Speaker 25: juice cocktails really good, and it's such a great perch

1834
01:34:26,973 --> 01:34:28,653
Speaker 25: to check out the surf rider beach scene.

1835
01:34:28,733 --> 01:34:32,213
Speaker 3: Okay, cool. What celebrity haunts would you recommend in Malibu?

1836
01:34:33,053 --> 01:34:34,813
Speaker 5: Well, I'm a bit of a tragic for this, Jack.

1837
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:37,533
Speaker 25: So if spotting stars is also high on your to

1838
01:34:37,533 --> 01:34:40,613
Speaker 25: do list, I reckon Nobu, Malibu, just down from the

1839
01:34:40,653 --> 01:34:44,973
Speaker 25: Pear is a really good opportunity. This is a very

1840
01:34:45,053 --> 01:34:48,413
Speaker 25: trendy Japanese restaurant co founded by Robert de Niro, so

1841
01:34:49,413 --> 01:34:55,733
Speaker 25: Clooney DiCaprio Fever. They are regulars at Nobu. I had

1842
01:34:55,733 --> 01:34:59,493
Speaker 25: the rock shrimp Tempura with Ponzu sauce, which is that

1843
01:34:59,573 --> 01:35:01,973
Speaker 25: lovely tart citrus based sauce.

1844
01:35:02,093 --> 01:35:02,533
Speaker 5: Really good.

1845
01:35:02,813 --> 01:35:05,733
Speaker 25: The only diner I recognized at Nobu when I was

1846
01:35:05,773 --> 01:35:07,013
Speaker 25: there me fell in.

1847
01:35:07,173 --> 01:35:09,093
Speaker 5: But hey, it's like the drawer.

1848
01:35:09,773 --> 01:35:11,093
Speaker 3: Do you take that still?

1849
01:35:11,653 --> 01:35:12,253
Speaker 2: Ah?

1850
01:35:12,293 --> 01:35:14,893
Speaker 5: I thought the sealist Maybe Jack se List?

1851
01:35:15,053 --> 01:35:15,773
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1852
01:35:18,893 --> 01:35:21,653
Speaker 25: By the way, Melibu Country Mart another good place to go,

1853
01:35:21,973 --> 01:35:26,173
Speaker 25: particularly Cafe Habana, which is run by Cindy Crawford's husband.

1854
01:35:26,573 --> 01:35:31,133
Speaker 25: So they do like really good Cuban sandwiches. But best

1855
01:35:31,133 --> 01:35:33,733
Speaker 25: of all, it's such a fun spot for cocktails.

1856
01:35:33,813 --> 01:35:34,933
Speaker 5: Cafe Habana nice.

1857
01:35:34,973 --> 01:35:37,573
Speaker 3: Okay, So, if you're heading west from the pier along

1858
01:35:37,613 --> 01:35:40,373
Speaker 3: the Pacific Coast Highway, what are the beaches if you recommend?

1859
01:35:41,173 --> 01:35:42,973
Speaker 25: Yeah, if you want to cruise the coast, there are

1860
01:35:43,093 --> 01:35:46,133
Speaker 25: so many beaches, but two really other good standouts the

1861
01:35:46,253 --> 01:35:50,453
Speaker 25: long white sand sweep of Zoomer Beach that is gorgeous.

1862
01:35:50,533 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 25: And for something completely different, l Masador Beach, gigantic boulders,

1863
01:35:56,453 --> 01:35:57,933
Speaker 25: picturesque rock arches.

1864
01:35:57,973 --> 01:35:59,613
Speaker 5: It's sort of like Utah.

1865
01:35:59,293 --> 01:36:03,213
Speaker 25: Has come to California, all crashing onto golden shores. And

1866
01:36:03,253 --> 01:36:06,333
Speaker 25: that is why El Matador is hot property for commercial shoes,

1867
01:36:06,733 --> 01:36:10,573
Speaker 25: especially at sunset when the hummingbirds are flitting about as well.

1868
01:36:10,653 --> 01:36:12,213
Speaker 5: That really is a special beach.

1869
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:14,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, Okay, any other little tips.

1870
01:36:15,853 --> 01:36:19,493
Speaker 25: For a dollop of history, check out Adamson House, also

1871
01:36:19,613 --> 01:36:22,573
Speaker 25: reopened after the fires. It was built a century ago

1872
01:36:22,693 --> 01:36:26,053
Speaker 25: by a pioneering family who lit the fuse on Malibu,

1873
01:36:26,133 --> 01:36:30,533
Speaker 25: becoming such a coveted celebrity bolthole the Ringe family. This

1874
01:36:30,613 --> 01:36:34,653
Speaker 25: house is wild. It's this big Spanish colonial revival mention.

1875
01:36:35,053 --> 01:36:38,413
Speaker 25: But it's nicknamed the taj Mahal of Tiles Jack because

1876
01:36:38,453 --> 01:36:42,213
Speaker 25: the entire property inside and out is just festooned in

1877
01:36:42,253 --> 01:36:46,173
Speaker 25: colorful decorative ceramic tiles. They've even got an eighteen meter

1878
01:36:46,413 --> 01:36:52,213
Speaker 25: long imitation Persian carpet, all made in tiles, so it

1879
01:36:52,333 --> 01:36:55,413
Speaker 25: is crazy. It really is something you should add to

1880
01:36:55,453 --> 01:36:56,173
Speaker 25: your checklist.

1881
01:36:56,533 --> 01:36:58,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I check out the photos of it. It

1882
01:36:58,293 --> 01:37:01,013
Speaker 3: does look kind of remarkable, very unique.

1883
01:37:01,173 --> 01:37:03,813
Speaker 5: Busy, Yeah yeah, very.

1884
01:37:04,173 --> 01:37:08,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, necessarily Okay, very good. We'll put all of those

1885
01:37:08,973 --> 01:37:11,453
Speaker 3: tips up on the New Storks CB website. Thank you, Mike,

1886
01:37:11,533 --> 01:37:14,933
Speaker 3: and have a wonderful coast to coast weekend. Cheers man

1887
01:37:15,133 --> 01:37:17,293
Speaker 3: look forward to catching up. So Mike Yard there, travel

1888
01:37:17,293 --> 01:37:21,333
Speaker 3: correspondent there, thank you again for your messages. Jack, what

1889
01:37:21,453 --> 01:37:23,733
Speaker 3: kind of coffee machine did you recommend this morning? I

1890
01:37:23,773 --> 01:37:26,053
Speaker 3: only heard about the last half of your chatter regarding it.

1891
01:37:26,053 --> 01:37:28,093
Speaker 3: I didn't recommend a coffee machine. This is my point.

1892
01:37:28,133 --> 01:37:31,253
Speaker 3: I have one of the little stovetops, you know, the

1893
01:37:31,293 --> 01:37:34,533
Speaker 3: Italian numbers, the little boletties. I've got one of those.

1894
01:37:34,693 --> 01:37:37,453
Speaker 3: Makes beautiful coffee. I like the process. It probably takes

1895
01:37:37,493 --> 01:37:39,493
Speaker 3: about five and a half minutes to brew a cup

1896
01:37:39,533 --> 01:37:41,973
Speaker 3: of coffee in the morning. But I've been debating whether

1897
01:37:42,053 --> 01:37:44,013
Speaker 3: or not it's time to upgrade to a fancy a

1898
01:37:44,053 --> 01:37:47,373
Speaker 3: coffee machine and lamenting that I don't want to give

1899
01:37:47,453 --> 01:37:49,693
Speaker 3: up any space. I don't want to have anything on

1900
01:37:49,773 --> 01:37:53,013
Speaker 3: my kitchen bench tops. But also maybe you know simple

1901
01:37:53,133 --> 01:37:55,733
Speaker 3: is better Jack. Honestly, you don't even need a big machine.

1902
01:37:55,773 --> 01:37:57,333
Speaker 3: We used to have one, but now we have a

1903
01:37:57,373 --> 01:38:00,813
Speaker 3: little mini and espresso. It's absolutely fantastic. Great coffee takes

1904
01:38:00,893 --> 01:38:04,413
Speaker 3: up very little room on the bench, says Lorrie. Jack.

1905
01:38:04,453 --> 01:38:07,333
Speaker 3: Don't sell out to big coffee. Stick with the five

1906
01:38:07,453 --> 01:38:12,053
Speaker 3: minute wounder, says Ollie. Well, it doesn't only mean to

1907
01:38:12,093 --> 01:38:16,213
Speaker 3: say wounder or wonder. I wonder. Well, it's five minute

1908
01:38:16,213 --> 01:38:18,013
Speaker 3: wound is not too bad. I'll take a five minute

1909
01:38:18,013 --> 01:38:20,773
Speaker 3: wounder in that case. Beg you, Ollie ninety two. If

1910
01:38:20,773 --> 01:38:22,533
Speaker 3: you want to get in touch before mid day today,

1911
01:38:22,813 --> 01:38:24,053
Speaker 3: we're going to have a bit more of a listen

1912
01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:26,333
Speaker 3: to the latest album from Nadia Reed. She was our

1913
01:38:26,333 --> 01:38:30,013
Speaker 3: guest last Saturday on News Talks EDB but into now

1914
01:38:30,093 --> 01:38:33,933
Speaker 3: Brightness is a pretty distinct and different album compared to

1915
01:38:33,933 --> 01:38:36,293
Speaker 3: her previous album, So our music reviewer is going to

1916
01:38:36,333 --> 01:38:38,933
Speaker 3: be in with her thoughts on that. Right now, it

1917
01:38:38,933 --> 01:38:40,253
Speaker 3: has just gone eleven.

1918
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Speaker 1: Thirty getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: team on News Talks EDBOW.

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Speaker 3: You know that Elton John documentary had that amazing duet

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Speaker 3: between Elton and Brandy Well, it turns out the Oscar

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Speaker 3: voting Committee, what do we call them the people who

1923
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Speaker 3: vote for the Oscars. They were the only fans of

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01:39:20,853 --> 01:39:23,293
Speaker 3: the song because of course that was nominated for an

1925
01:39:23,293 --> 01:39:25,973
Speaker 3: oscar that do you ear? Turns out Elton and Brandy

1926
01:39:26,013 --> 01:39:28,413
Speaker 3: didn't half mind the sound as well. Now they have

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01:39:28,573 --> 01:39:32,933
Speaker 3: teamed up with a collaborative album. How about that? So anyway,

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Speaker 3: we'll be I'm sure hearing plenty of more Meilli and

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Speaker 3: more from Elton, John and Brandy over the next wee

1930
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Speaker 3: while now it has just gone twenty seven minutes to

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Speaker 3: twelve on news talk s, he'd b Jason pine Is

1932
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Speaker 3: of course in this afternoon with weekendsport Calder Piney Kelder, Jack,

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Speaker 3: what are you planning for us this afternoon?

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Speaker 26: Well it might seem odd being early February, but this

1935
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Speaker 26: weekend where we're dedicating a big chunk of the two

1936
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Speaker 26: shows to Super Rugby, actually because we're only a week away.

1937
01:39:58,253 --> 01:40:00,573
Speaker 26: In fact, a week from now we would have had

1938
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Speaker 26: the first game Crusaders, Hurricanes and Christes to kick things

1939
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Speaker 26: off Friday night Valentine's Day, a bit of love in

1940
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Speaker 26: the Garden City for Super Rugby fans. So tomorrow we've

1941
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Speaker 26: got all six head coaches on the show, all six

1942
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Speaker 26: new Zealand based head coaches. That is so yeah, Tana Humung,

1943
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Speaker 26: Verncottter Clayton, McMillan, Clark Laidlaw, Jamie Joseph and Rob penny

1944
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Speaker 26: All on the show tomorrow. Today though, we're going to

1945
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Speaker 26: go to the top. The CEO of Super Rugby Pacific,

1946
01:40:29,253 --> 01:40:32,013
Speaker 26: Jack Mesley, going to join us just after midday to

1947
01:40:32,493 --> 01:40:35,973
Speaker 26: I guess get the gauge from him on how he's feeling,

1948
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Speaker 26: and also the launch of Super Rugby Fantasy, which is

1949
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Speaker 26: a new innovation this year. We'll find a bit more

1950
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Speaker 26: about that across the Tamsman. Meantime, Joe Schmid has said, look,

1951
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Speaker 26: I'll coach the Wallabies for the Lions tour and old

1952
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Speaker 26: tag on the Rugby Championship, but that will be it.

1953
01:40:50,973 --> 01:40:53,933
Speaker 26: So who are the candidates for coaching the Wallabies post

1954
01:40:54,373 --> 01:40:57,533
Speaker 26: Joe Schmidt? And might there be the odd kiw on

1955
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Speaker 26: the hit list for Rugby Australia.

1956
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Speaker 3: Who do we surprise an announcement?

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Speaker 26: Not really no, I think it was always telegraphed a

1958
01:41:04,693 --> 01:41:07,373
Speaker 26: long way out that Joe Schmidt would would only do it,

1959
01:41:07,413 --> 01:41:10,893
Speaker 26: you know, temporarily. I think what Rugby Australia probably secretly

1960
01:41:10,973 --> 01:41:13,053
Speaker 26: hoped was that he get in there and he'd love it,

1961
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Speaker 26: and so yeah, I'll stay, I'll start of the World Cup.

1962
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Speaker 26: But no, he's he's going to pull up in back

1963
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Speaker 26: end of this year. So whoever comes in will have

1964
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Speaker 26: the end of year tour this year, all of next

1965
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Speaker 26: year and then up to the twenty twenty seven Rugby

1966
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Speaker 26: World Cup to get ready for that World Cup.

1967
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Speaker 3: Is that enough time? Who knows? So it does seem

1968
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Speaker 3: from the perspective of Australian rugby, and you know, as

1969
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Speaker 3: someone who thinks that actually New Zealand rugby would really

1970
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Speaker 3: benefit from stronger competition across the ditch. Ye, it does

1971
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Speaker 3: seem like they just sort of turned a corner, you

1972
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like just things are just starting

1973
01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:49,773
Speaker 3: to maybe look up for the first time in a

1974
01:41:49,813 --> 01:41:51,333
Speaker 3: long time for Australian rugby.

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Speaker 27: Yep.

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Speaker 26: And hopefully that can continue, hopefully, ye, I mean. And

1977
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Speaker 26: Jode Schmitt has certainly regardless of what happens this year,

1978
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Speaker 26: he'll leave it in a better place than he found it.

1979
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Speaker 26: That's a low bardo because Eddie Jones completely decimated that

1980
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Speaker 26: team during his last year there, so I think he'll

1981
01:42:05,333 --> 01:42:07,653
Speaker 26: hand over a team that's in pretty good shape. They'll

1982
01:42:07,773 --> 01:42:10,453
Speaker 26: have played the lines, they'll have the Rugby Championship, so

1983
01:42:10,493 --> 01:42:13,573
Speaker 26: he'll oversee all of that and hopefully for and I

1984
01:42:13,573 --> 01:42:15,253
Speaker 26: agree Jack, I think we need them to be strong.

1985
01:42:15,453 --> 01:42:19,453
Speaker 26: He'll hand over a Philly cohesive group with a bit

1986
01:42:19,493 --> 01:42:22,413
Speaker 26: of match hardened experience in there's some new players introduced

1987
01:42:22,653 --> 01:42:24,693
Speaker 26: and whoever takes over it can have a bit of

1988
01:42:24,773 --> 01:42:28,293
Speaker 26: runway towards the home Rugby World Cup for Australia to

1989
01:42:28,413 --> 01:42:30,653
Speaker 26: them to continue to build on what Jodgment does.

1990
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Speaker 3: Are you a coast to coast man, Piney, I've never

1991
01:42:33,413 --> 01:42:33,693
Speaker 3: done it.

1992
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Speaker 26: If that's what you're asking, I've watched you watch.

1993
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Speaker 3: I think you're right.

1994
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Speaker 26: Look, I've watched an awe at the you know, the

1995
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Speaker 26: spectacular feats of those who do it, not just the

1996
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Speaker 26: ones who are in the elite section, but anybody who decides,

1997
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Speaker 26: you know what, I'm going to go from the west

1998
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Speaker 26: coast of the South Island to the east coast of

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Speaker 26: the South Island in one day or across two days,

2000
01:42:55,413 --> 01:42:57,773
Speaker 26: or whatever they decide, because it is you know, it's

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01:42:57,813 --> 01:43:01,173
Speaker 26: a huge undertaking even to get yourself ready for that,

2002
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Speaker 26: let alone do it. You know, the training, the hours

2003
01:43:04,173 --> 01:43:06,813
Speaker 26: and hours of commitment, that it takes. So look, I yeah,

2004
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Speaker 26: I remain in awe of anybody who decides to give

2005
01:43:09,973 --> 01:43:10,293
Speaker 26: it a crap.

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Speaker 3: I've had I've had a few mates to it, and

2007
01:43:11,893 --> 01:43:14,253
Speaker 3: you know, it's the descriptions like it's the obviously that

2008
01:43:14,333 --> 01:43:17,933
Speaker 3: the kind of the mental strength needs, you know, but

2009
01:43:18,533 --> 01:43:20,613
Speaker 3: the you know, you run what is it, thirty k's

2010
01:43:20,613 --> 01:43:22,413
Speaker 3: over go past or whatever it is. You come down,

2011
01:43:22,493 --> 01:43:25,533
Speaker 3: you're into the wyemakeery, you go kayaking, and you know,

2012
01:43:25,773 --> 01:43:27,653
Speaker 3: I've had mates who said that when they got to

2013
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Speaker 3: the end of the kayak, they didn't think their legs work,

2014
01:43:31,213 --> 01:43:32,813
Speaker 3: but they had to kind of roll out of the

2015
01:43:32,893 --> 01:43:35,373
Speaker 3: kayak because they were so their lower half of their

2016
01:43:35,413 --> 01:43:38,773
Speaker 3: body was so dead that they you know, and then

2017
01:43:38,773 --> 01:43:41,893
Speaker 3: they're at fun They've got to go again, and there

2018
01:43:41,973 --> 01:43:43,933
Speaker 3: was like, right, get on the bike away, Yes, yeah, yeah,

2019
01:43:43,973 --> 01:43:44,893
Speaker 3: they're not even finished.

2020
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Speaker 26: So no, it's a it's a tremendous physical and mental

2021
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Speaker 26: feet and yeah, yeah, just huge kudos to anybody who

2022
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Speaker 26: has done it all is doing it.

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Speaker 3: Too, right, All right, looking forward to this afternoon, Thank you, sir.

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Speaker 3: Jase's fine behind the mic for a weekend sport. Right

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Speaker 3: after the twelve o'clock News before midday. We got that

2026
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Speaker 3: music from Nadia Reid. Get our music reviewers thoughts on that.

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Speaker 3: Next up, your book picks for this weekend. Right now,

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Speaker 3: it's twenty two to twelve.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Folk Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: powered by News Talks at.

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Speaker 3: B USE Talks at b twenty to twelve on your

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Speaker 3: Saturday Morning. Katherine Rains has our book picks for this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Gwader catherineod Morning Jack. So, I'm a fan of the

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Speaker 3: The Rest Is Espionage podcast and one of the hosts

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Speaker 3: of The Rest Is Espionage is David McCloskey, a former

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Speaker 3: CIA agent who has also just written The Seventh Floor

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Speaker 3: tell Us about it.

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Speaker 28: He has and the story begins with a Russian CIA

2039
01:44:39,733 --> 01:44:43,853
Speaker 28: asset being arrested by some of Putin's men and a

2040
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Speaker 28: CIA officer, Sam Joseph, at the same time as kidnapped

2041
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Speaker 28: by Russian operatives, and he'd been having this conversation cleanderestine

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Speaker 28: conversation with an asset who said shared this mole secret

2043
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Speaker 28: with him, and the Russian asset ends up committing suicide

2044
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Speaker 28: before he can be questioned, but Sam is forced to

2045
01:45:00,493 --> 01:45:03,893
Speaker 28: undergo a significant amount of torture and then he's finally

2046
01:45:03,893 --> 01:45:06,013
Speaker 28: traded back to the CIA for a Russian spy who

2047
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Speaker 28: has been held. And then meanwhile there's this other character,

2048
01:45:09,453 --> 01:45:11,973
Speaker 28: a woman called Adamis Proctor, and she's five foot tall,

2049
01:45:12,013 --> 01:45:15,013
Speaker 28: she's tattooed, she has a drinking problem, and she's very

2050
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Speaker 28: tough both inside and outside. She's a very take no

2051
01:45:17,973 --> 01:45:20,853
Speaker 28: prisoner's persona. And she's worked for the CIA for a

2052
01:45:20,973 --> 01:45:24,013
Speaker 28: very long time along with a tight new group of operatives,

2053
01:45:24,013 --> 01:45:26,453
Speaker 28: at one of whom Sam is, and they live on

2054
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Speaker 28: the from a seventh floor secret missions until meetings, work together,

2055
01:45:31,093 --> 01:45:33,253
Speaker 28: fight together, and look out for each other. And then

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Speaker 28: she's forced to resign due to her involvement in Sam's operation,

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Speaker 28: so she makes a complete Caporea change and heads Florida

2058
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Speaker 28: to work in an alligator tourist trap as they called,

2059
01:45:45,053 --> 01:45:47,093
Speaker 28: wrestling gators and entertaining the crowds.

2060
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Speaker 4: And then Sam.

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Speaker 28: Pays her a visit at the Gate of Farm and

2062
01:45:50,253 --> 01:45:52,573
Speaker 28: shares the secret of Thought and they decide to team

2063
01:45:52,653 --> 01:45:55,333
Speaker 28: up together and hunt the mole down. And it's a

2064
01:45:55,653 --> 01:45:58,973
Speaker 28: very well written spy novel. It has great tension. You're

2065
01:45:59,133 --> 01:46:02,093
Speaker 28: never quite sure who the mole is until the very ends.

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01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,853
Speaker 28: Lots of Bombshells and the story, the characters are complex

2067
01:46:04,973 --> 01:46:10,053
Speaker 28: and interesting, very explosive storylines, and with David mccloskey's background,

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Speaker 28: you can understand why.

2069
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Speaker 3: And it is keeps your helped wonderful. Okay, that sounds great.

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Speaker 3: That's the Seventh Floor by David McCloskey in Great News.

2071
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Speaker 3: He's going to be Francesca's special guest on the Sunday

2072
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Speaker 3: session tomorrow morning, So tune into Newsboroks he'd be tomorrow

2073
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Speaker 3: to hear author and former CIA agent David McCloskey. Right

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Speaker 3: next up, More or Less Maddie by Lisa Genova.

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Speaker 28: So, Maddie's story is one of high's and lows, and

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01:46:34,813 --> 01:46:37,693
Speaker 28: she's a college kid just trying to figure life out

2077
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Speaker 28: and she wants of a happy life to follow her passions,

2078
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Speaker 28: and her life has taken a turn making her hard

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01:46:44,173 --> 01:46:47,653
Speaker 28: to pursue these passions of writing and filmmaking. And she

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01:46:47,693 --> 01:46:51,013
Speaker 28: comes from this very well off country club kinetic family,

2081
01:46:51,053 --> 01:46:53,333
Speaker 28: and she's youngest of three and her oldest sister, Emily,

2082
01:46:53,373 --> 01:46:55,973
Speaker 28: is engaged to be married. And Maddie has this very

2083
01:46:56,013 --> 01:46:59,533
Speaker 28: strange relationship with her mother, who babies her and doesn't

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01:46:59,613 --> 01:47:02,613
Speaker 28: quite know how to control her disorder, which is by

2085
01:47:02,653 --> 01:47:05,693
Speaker 28: polar and so you see the realities of Maddie's by

2086
01:47:05,693 --> 01:47:09,573
Speaker 28: polar condition, and you can feel her confusion, the vulnerabilities,

2087
01:47:09,653 --> 01:47:13,253
Speaker 28: the euphoria she has, the despair, and when she's longed

2088
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Speaker 28: for the normalcy and stability and the freedom to follow

2089
01:47:16,013 --> 01:47:19,173
Speaker 28: her passions. And the story delves into how her condition

2090
01:47:19,373 --> 01:47:22,333
Speaker 28: impacts the family. She's grappling with shame and fear and

2091
01:47:22,373 --> 01:47:27,333
Speaker 28: helplessness and all sorts of emotions, and it is completely captivating,

2092
01:47:27,453 --> 01:47:31,133
Speaker 28: and it has soul and empathy and very raw and

2093
01:47:31,173 --> 01:47:34,093
Speaker 28: emotional and it's one of those books that keep you

2094
01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:38,253
Speaker 28: thinking long after you've turned the last page. And Lisa Genova,

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01:47:38,293 --> 01:47:41,333
Speaker 28: the author, is a neuroscientist, so I think she delves

2096
01:47:41,453 --> 01:47:44,093
Speaker 28: very well into the subject that she's talking about, and

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01:47:44,133 --> 01:47:46,613
Speaker 28: you really feel like you're part of a story, and

2098
01:47:46,653 --> 01:47:49,533
Speaker 28: it's just yeah, she writes in a fabulous way that

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Speaker 28: kind of engrosses.

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Speaker 5: You into it.

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Speaker 3: Superb Okay, that's more or less Maddie by Lisa genoveraor

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Speaker 3: Jennifer the first book from Catherine There The Seventh Floor

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Speaker 3: by David McCloskey. He'll be with us on the Sunday

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Speaker 3: Session tomorrow morning, both of those books all the details.

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Speaker 3: News dog zb dot co dot nz is the place

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Speaker 3: to go. Sixteen to twelve, we've got their new music

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Speaker 3: from Nadia read for you.

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Speaker 1: Next giving you the inside scoop on all you need

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Speaker 1: to Know. Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bepure dot

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Speaker 1: co dot inz for high quality supplements, used talks.

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Speaker 5: Be Loving You.

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Speaker 4: Second natch to me. I was raised.

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Speaker 10: On love and chanquility. You want to know who.

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Speaker 7: That is?

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Speaker 3: Nadia Red. The song is second Nature. Her new album

2116
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Speaker 3: is inter Now Brightness. She was with us this time

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Speaker 3: last week. So if you haven't heard our interview with Nadia,

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Speaker 3: made sure you go to newsporks hedb dot co dot inzi,

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Speaker 3: newsbalks head Beat dot coda inzid you know it and

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Speaker 3: have a listen there. A Steele Clifford has been listening

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Speaker 3: to to now Right Nous. She's a music reviewer and

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Speaker 3: is with this this morning. Kioda.

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Speaker 2: What in the jack?

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Speaker 15: When I hear albums like this, I just know in

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Speaker 15: my future there's gonna be a retro record player. I'll

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Speaker 15: have like this, vast collection of actual physical LPs and

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Speaker 15: albums like this will be on it. I'll be slowly

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Speaker 15: sipping coffee in the sun.

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Speaker 3: Oh just speak my language.

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Speaker 15: Yeah right, And there's such a feel and a visual

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Speaker 15: of what that is that so many people can relate to,

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Speaker 15: and that is what this album is great for because

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Speaker 15: it has that stuff that you need to listen to

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Speaker 15: and kind of sink into what think is the beautiful

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Speaker 15: thing about being able to sit and listen to an

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Speaker 15: album and just kind of soak it in and take

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01:49:48,413 --> 01:49:51,013
Speaker 15: your time with it because it's an album that also

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01:49:51,093 --> 01:49:53,253
Speaker 15: that's what Nadia has done to create it, and you

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01:49:53,293 --> 01:49:57,813
Speaker 15: can hear that in its production. So if there's any

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Speaker 15: chance that sometime this weekend you can just be a

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01:50:00,413 --> 01:50:03,133
Speaker 15: little bit lazy, maybe it's while you're getting ready or

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Speaker 15: you're cooking dinner or whatever, to have this all nice

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01:50:05,133 --> 01:50:07,933
Speaker 15: and loud and just least sink into what's going on.

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Speaker 15: So that would be my advice.

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Speaker 4: To absorb this music.

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01:50:12,653 --> 01:50:16,733
Speaker 15: It's it's really beautiful. That song there, second Nature, probably

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01:50:16,773 --> 01:50:19,333
Speaker 15: one of the quietert songs, and it does have that

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Speaker 15: we well know Nadia read for acoustic guitar and her

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01:50:23,613 --> 01:50:26,493
Speaker 15: voice sitting above that. But then it sort of becomes

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Speaker 15: this bigger, all encompassing kind of song, and there's a

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01:50:28,933 --> 01:50:31,453
Speaker 15: bit more of that on this album. So what I

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01:50:31,493 --> 01:50:33,253
Speaker 15: love about that song too is it does have that

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01:50:33,333 --> 01:50:36,853
Speaker 15: kind of gentle tone about it. But some of the

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01:50:36,973 --> 01:50:39,853
Speaker 15: lyrics and the story she's telling is, you know, when

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01:50:39,893 --> 01:50:43,373
Speaker 15: a relationship becomes second nature, but actually it's not really

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01:50:43,373 --> 01:50:45,853
Speaker 15: the one you should be in, and it's time to

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01:50:45,933 --> 01:50:48,333
Speaker 15: let it go and move on, you know, like it's

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01:50:48,373 --> 01:50:50,373
Speaker 15: not always the great thing, but it's just it's been

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01:50:50,413 --> 01:50:53,333
Speaker 15: there and it's your your comfort, I suppose, and sometimes

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01:50:53,373 --> 01:50:55,973
Speaker 15: actually you've got to re look at that comfort, which,

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Speaker 15: as you know from the interview you had with her,

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Speaker 15: a lot of her comfort's been shook up because she's

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01:51:01,133 --> 01:51:03,933
Speaker 15: packed up the family and gone to the UK, and

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01:51:03,973 --> 01:51:08,733
Speaker 15: so this album sort of crosses that crosses that change

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Speaker 15: in her life of becoming a mom and what is

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Speaker 15: it to be a musician and an artist and move

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01:51:14,813 --> 01:51:17,333
Speaker 15: away miles away from everybody else. I mean, lots of

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Speaker 15: the songs were written before she's obviously got to the UK,

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Speaker 15: but change was constantly evolving for her, I think, and

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Speaker 15: to make those big changes. You definitely hear that in

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Speaker 15: this album. So I think that's quite a beautiful thing

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01:51:29,053 --> 01:51:31,173
Speaker 15: to sort of stand with two. There's been sort of

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01:51:31,253 --> 01:51:33,773
Speaker 15: quite a bit of chat around it being you know,

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Speaker 15: her comment on motherhood this album, but there's more than that.

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Speaker 15: I think that's always the way with someone who's a

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01:51:40,813 --> 01:51:44,373
Speaker 15: great lyricist and also really great at music. You don't

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Speaker 15: have to have experienced that yourself or that's your focus,

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01:51:47,893 --> 01:51:49,133
Speaker 15: you know, to enjoy what's going.

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Speaker 10: On with the music.

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Speaker 15: Hold it up as the real standout single, and I

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01:51:54,213 --> 01:51:56,173
Speaker 15: think a lot of people attaching themselves to this, but

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01:51:56,293 --> 01:51:58,373
Speaker 15: it does sound a bit different for Nadia, like it's

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01:51:59,373 --> 01:52:03,213
Speaker 15: it's got these awesome guitar slide, heaps of percussion and

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01:52:03,373 --> 01:52:06,973
Speaker 15: really different stuff mixed in there. Stellar production as most

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01:52:07,013 --> 01:52:11,013
Speaker 15: of the album actually has, but it's this layered thing

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01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:14,293
Speaker 15: that really creates us quiet energy about it. It was

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01:52:14,293 --> 01:52:17,733
Speaker 15: written in oh I think she wrote it in Dunedin,

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01:52:17,973 --> 01:52:21,133
Speaker 15: recorded in Port Charmers, and that the music video is

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01:52:21,133 --> 01:52:24,853
Speaker 15: shot in p Har that black sandy kind of dark tone,

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01:52:24,893 --> 01:52:27,373
Speaker 15: and it's really great because the story behind that is

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01:52:27,453 --> 01:52:30,493
Speaker 15: she was meant to be catching a plane later that

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01:52:30,613 --> 01:52:33,253
Speaker 15: day to head back to the UK, I think, and

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01:52:33,293 --> 01:52:35,533
Speaker 15: then so they're sort of fighting that time restraint as

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01:52:35,533 --> 01:52:38,173
Speaker 15: well as the thunderous clouds that are rolling in behind

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01:52:38,253 --> 01:52:42,213
Speaker 15: them this really amazing dancer who's on the beach like

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01:52:42,293 --> 01:52:44,173
Speaker 15: dancing in the scene while she's walking in it. So

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01:52:44,213 --> 01:52:48,413
Speaker 15: there's kind of like this natural pressure that's happened behind that,

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01:52:48,453 --> 01:52:49,373
Speaker 15: which kind of goes with.

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Speaker 14: The song really perfectly.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so if you get a chance to watch the

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Speaker 15: music video. But I think Holding Up as one of

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Speaker 15: those standout singles for people because of its energy and

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01:52:57,693 --> 01:53:01,493
Speaker 15: quite sort of more poppy, almost some rock kind of

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01:53:01,493 --> 01:53:04,213
Speaker 15: guitar in there as well, And this is good. This

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01:53:04,293 --> 01:53:08,213
Speaker 15: album really showcases all of those versions of not having

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01:53:08,293 --> 01:53:12,573
Speaker 15: to be a genre yeap, but be it all of it.

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01:53:12,653 --> 01:53:14,173
Speaker 15: You know, she can pick up a rock guitar, she

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01:53:14,213 --> 01:53:16,213
Speaker 15: can sit at the piano and the keys, or there's

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01:53:16,253 --> 01:53:18,333
Speaker 15: just this acoustic sound like it's all of those things

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01:53:18,373 --> 01:53:20,333
Speaker 15: have been put into this album, which I think is

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01:53:20,373 --> 01:53:23,053
Speaker 15: really great. My five year old's really into Chained Unshamed

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01:53:23,253 --> 01:53:26,333
Speaker 15: because it is real rock guitari. I think I'm creating

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01:53:26,333 --> 01:53:30,013
Speaker 15: a little rock rock star girl. But but but you

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01:53:30,053 --> 01:53:31,613
Speaker 15: know that's what I mean, Like there's something in this

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01:53:31,693 --> 01:53:34,373
Speaker 15: kind of album for everybody as well as some chilled

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01:53:34,413 --> 01:53:36,453
Speaker 15: out vibes. If that's where you're kind of going as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh sounds good, right, So what do you get.

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01:53:39,933 --> 01:53:41,493
Speaker 15: Trying not to have brains this week?

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01:53:41,613 --> 01:53:42,133
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:53:42,213 --> 01:53:42,773
Speaker 2: Do you rest?

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Speaker 15: It's an eight out of ten for me. It's a

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01:53:44,853 --> 01:53:47,453
Speaker 15: really solid album. Sit with it for a long time

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01:53:47,453 --> 01:53:48,293
Speaker 15: if you can, you know.

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01:53:48,493 --> 01:53:50,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we're going to listen to hold it up to.

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01:53:50,493 --> 01:53:52,413
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna dig that one out. Yeah great,

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01:53:52,453 --> 01:53:53,733
Speaker 3: So if we can have a bit of a listen

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01:53:53,773 --> 01:53:56,613
Speaker 3: to that. Thank you so much and catch you again

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Speaker 3: next week. Stelle clifford Our Music review. Then eight out

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Speaker 3: of ten she reckons for Into Now Brightness by Nadia Red,

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Speaker 3: Like I say, we'll get out there being in single

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Speaker 3: for you a couple of minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well, I haven't changed my mind ultimately on a coffee machine.

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Speaker 3: I think for the time being, I'm going to hold out.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to stick with the blit he, stick with

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Speaker 3: the Italian stovetop, stick with not having stuff on the

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Speaker 3: kitchen benches. Although, as many of you have pointed out

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Speaker 3: on the text machine, this morning with a little one

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Speaker 3: on the way. Yeah, my aesthetic might be challenged, to

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Speaker 3: say the least, in the coming weeks and months. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for all of your feedback this morning. I've really

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Speaker 3: enjoyed that conversation. This afternoon, Jason Pyne is with us

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Speaker 3: searching for Jacktame on Facebook as well. I'll be back

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Speaker 3: with us next Saturday morning. For now, though, I will

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Speaker 3: leave you with Nadia read Her new album is Enter

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01:55:06,093 --> 01:55:09,373
Speaker 3: Now Brightness and this is Hold it Up see a side.

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01:55:11,013 --> 01:55:19,133
Speaker 10: Just say good, hold it up, hold.

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Speaker 4: The guitar.

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Speaker 29: For me, lady, you can hold it up. Hold it

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Speaker 29: up to the lady, knowing nothing gives me that old,

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01:55:57,853 --> 01:55:58,933
Speaker 29: hazy hard.

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Speaker 10: I can't be anything you've a vanted. I can because

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01:56:12,493 --> 01:56:17,013
Speaker 10: to anyone I can hold it the late.

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Speaker 4: Holy have you wanted to.

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Speaker 27: He just sit on the course, Hold up, old, hold

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Speaker 27: it up, Hold it up, tonight, I she.

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Speaker 10: Her fly. She must be going somewhere. I can't believe

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Speaker 10: any

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