1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens on 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: early edition with Expole insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: try this winter news talks. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: They'd be welcome morning to you and welcome to the 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: working week. Coming up at the next hour. An open 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: letter to reform our energy set down. But we all 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: know the problems. What should we do? We've got one 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: of the authors of the letter in about ten minutes time. 9 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison joins us on sport as the Wimbledham finalism 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 2: right now it's one set all is the Auklands CBD 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 2: worth visiting on a weekend? I'll tell you and act 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: suggests a new plan to attract twenty one thousand international 13 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: students to the country. How would it work and would 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: it work? We'll have that just before six. You could 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: have your say anytime you like. Ninety two ninety two 16 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: as the text number of small charge applies. You can 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: email Dickens at Newstalk st B dot co dot NZ. 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: We'll have reporters from around the world and around New 19 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Zealand and news as it breaks. This is early edition 20 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: and it's now seven minutes after five. 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: The agenda. 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: It's Monday, the fourteenth of July, It's best deal day 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: for France. First though to the Middle East, and ten people, 24 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: including six children, have been killed in an Israeli airstrike 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: while waiting to fill water containers in central Gaza. The 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: Israeli military say there was a technical error with a 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: strike targeting an Islamic jihad terrorist that caused the munition 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: to fall dozens of meters from the target. 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: The eyewitnesses there say that Israeli soldiers had fired on 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: the crowd. Now, the Israeli militaries say that they do 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: not fire at people deliberately, and the organization which is 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: US and Israeli back that now has taken over the 33 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: distribution of aid from the United Nations in Gaza has 34 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: actually accused the Yuan of using misleading information. 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 2: So to the trade wars, and countries are rushing to 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: get trade deals done with the States before the August 37 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: first deadline. The EU and Mexico say they're disappointed with 38 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: Trump's threat to impose thirty percent tariffs on their imports. 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: We are not there yet. 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 4: This is very important. 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: This is now the time for negotiations, but this also 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 5: shows we are prepared for all eventual scenarios. 43 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: That's ursula from Europe. Trump is warning that he will 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: impose even higher import texes as if either of the 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: countries decided to retaliate. And over the weekend we got 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 2: the preliminary report findings into the Air India plane crash 47 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: which killed two hundred and sixty people. Turns out both 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: fuel control switches on the plane were cut off sickens 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: after take off they ran out of gas, but we 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: don't know how or why they were moved. 51 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 6: At this stage, the Indian authorities have said that there 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: isn't cause for concern in relation to the aircraft or 53 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: the engines, and I think that will be reassuring to 54 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 6: people who are flying. 55 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: And the It's now nine minutes after five. 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Andrew 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Dickins and Expole Insulation keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry 58 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: this winter news Talks at. 59 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: Be Well last week saw the debate over the Regulatory 60 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Standards Bill continue. They had submissions being heard. The bill 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: requires that new and existing legislation be assessed for consistency 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: with the principles of responsible regulation. It establishes a Regulatory 63 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: Standards Board to independently consider the consistency of legislation with 64 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: those principles. It outlines what those principles are, even though 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: there's already guidelines for making law available to every politician 66 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: drafting a law and a committee to oversee it that 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: called the Legislation Design and Advisory Committee. Now they've already 68 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: had a look at Seymour's bill and they say, well, 69 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: we've got misgivings about the capacity of this bill to 70 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: offer improvement and it might have significant unintended consequences. Anyway, 71 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: this bill will set up a Ministry of Regulation to 72 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: act as a central agency to improve the quality of 73 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: our laws and our regulations. And of course Mary don't 74 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: like it because there are no treaty causes in it, 75 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: and they think that treaty causes in other bills or 76 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: moves that are advantageous to Mali could be criticized by 77 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: this board. So they hate it, and in fact all 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: the left hate it. They're calling it a neoliberal takeover bid. 79 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: The right love it because they could get a ministry 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: in a board that could rip left policy to bits. 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm not sure I like it 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: because of this board, who are non elected appointed by 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: a government and who then could be part of electioneering 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: and criticism of ideas presented by parties. It feels a 85 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: little bit undemocratic, and it's an extraordinary amount of power 86 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: to be given to a board, isn't it. We all 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: want responsibly written legislation which doesn't include pie in the 88 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: sky imaginative costings, but having this super board and ministry 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: rolling around becoming part of the debate seems like giving 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: even more power to the bureaucrats. And in fact, I'm 91 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: surprised it's Ax's idea, what z B. So if you 92 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: opened up the paper this weekend, you would have seen 93 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 2: a letter from a whole lot of people asking for 94 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: immediate reform to our energy sector. They believe the energy 95 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: sect does not working. I agree, we're all good at 96 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 2: identifying problems. What we're not good at is coming up 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: with answers. So anyway, John Duffy from Consumer is one 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: of the signatories to this open letter, and so we're 99 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: going to be talking to him next here on News Talks. 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 2: Here B this his early edition. 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: News and Views you Trust to start your day. It's 102 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickins at ex Pole Insulation, keeping 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter News Talk sat B. 104 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: It is thirteen minutes out of five, two all. In 105 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 2: the third set, it's one set all. This is our 106 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: chorab versus Sinnami. More on this with Andrew Ordison in 107 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: a few moments. So I'm actually speaking about sport. I 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 2: watched that combined Australian New Zealand team paying the Lions. 109 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: They got wallopped, and it's not really surprising. They went 110 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: together for very long seven days and a lot of 111 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: them had never played together anyway. During the commentary, they 112 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: kept on calling them the aun Z's, the au n Z's, 113 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 2: and I thought, why aren't they calling them the ANZACs? 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: Is there a problem with calling them an ANZACs? What 115 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: would you call this team? Because I think this team 116 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: is going to be a thing going forward. I'll talk 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: more about this with Andrew in a few moments time. 118 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: You can text me ninety two ninety two small charge applies. 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: What would you call this au n Z team? Now? 120 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: Over the weekend, a group of well known organizations published 121 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: an open letter to the Prime Minister calling for the 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: immediate reform to our energy sector. They believe the current 123 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 2: system holds back productivity and isn't in the best interest 124 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: of New Zealanders and that's true, and some of the 125 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: signatories include the EMA, two degrees and Consumer New Zealand. 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: So from Consumer we've got their chief executive, John Duffy, 127 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: who's woken up early for us. Good morning to you, John, 128 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: Good morning. How's it going good? Why an open letter? 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 7: Well, we think the time is right. I mean there's 130 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 7: a lot of pressure coming from a lot of sectors 131 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 7: and we really wanted to demonstrate that quite a disparate 132 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 7: group of organizations with lots of different purposes can actually 133 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 7: get together and be quite aligned on an issue as 134 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 7: important as this. And we've got a number of things 135 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 7: that are happening in the sector, and one of the 136 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 7: key ones is that there's a brand new review of 137 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 7: how the sector's performing sitting on the Minister's desk. The 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 7: Cabinet and the Minister are considering their options right now, 139 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 7: and we really wanted to send a message to say, hey, 140 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 7: you've got this huge group of organizations here that's really 141 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 7: worried about the direction we're heading in. It's time to 142 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 7: make some good decisions that help both industry and consumers. 143 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, is Simon Watt's doing a good enough job, as 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: you say, he's got this report on his desk. Is 145 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: into regulatory settings. It's not about dam's or dio thermalo 146 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: you think. And he's says the government will make an 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: announcement in due course. Is he sitting on his hands? 148 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 7: No, I don't think so. These are big, big decisions, right, 149 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 7: So we've tried to kind of convey the importance of 150 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 7: it in the letter. This is one of the key 151 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 7: inputs into our economy. If we can't fuel our industry 152 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 7: and we can't support the well being of our people 153 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 7: with affordable electricity, we're in real trouble as a nation. 154 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 7: So we don't necessarily want the minister to rush into 155 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 7: a knee jerk reaction. We need decisions to be well 156 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 7: thought through and measured. But I guess we would like 157 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 7: to see submergency in the decision making, and we anticipate 158 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 7: something coming in the coming months, so that is quick enough. 159 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: So that is to ginger him up. Your letter very 160 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 2: accurately describes the problems. Of course, we're all about the 161 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 2: solutions here, So would you like to help the government 162 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: into coming up with a solution for the energy sector. 163 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 7: Look absolutely, and obviously, given the organization that I represent, 164 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 7: i'd encourage the government to be putting people at the 165 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 7: center of any decision making that it's doing, because at 166 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 7: the moment, consumers aren't really or electricity consumers, the people 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 7: of New Zealand, households aren't really that much of a factor. 168 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 7: And how our system operates. We think about sure security 169 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 7: is supply, that's important, keeping the lights on, but really 170 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 7: our focus is Unfortunately, the way the market built is 171 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 7: built is on making returns for shareholders. So, like many 172 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 7: industries across the economy, the way the market is geared, 173 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 7: businesses operate to produce shareholder return, which is really important because, 174 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 7: particularly in a capital intensive industry like electricity generation, you 175 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 7: need money coming in so that you can build things. Absolutely, 176 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 7: but when the return to shareholders is outweighing the service 177 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,479 Speaker 7: that's been provided to customers and the return to shareholders 178 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 7: is being prioritized over even investing new generation, we know 179 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 7: we've got a problem. 180 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: Good stuff John Duffy. He is the chief executive of 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: Consumer New Zealand. Other signatories include the Auclord and Business Chamber, 182 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: headed by former National Party leader Simon Bridges, the major 183 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: electricity user groups and Employers and Manufacturers Association, and Let's 184 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: see some answers. But we've been talking about this for 185 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: a while. In fact, the text came through immediately that 186 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: said Christopher luxA must be sick of all these so 187 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: called open letters to him. First Helen Clark and Don 188 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: Brash's stupid letter on how to handle China. Now this 189 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: lot oh derry me writes the texture. Well, if you 190 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: don't ask, nothing happens, I guess. Andrew Dlison on Sport 191 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: in a few moments time. It's a beautiful day in London. 192 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: Wimbledon is being played and it's very close between alcorav 193 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 2: and Sinner the Italian. So we'll talk about that. We'll 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: talking about the rugby. What would you call this au 195 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: n Z team. It is useful to b. This is 196 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: early edition and it's five nineteen. 197 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Andrew dickens on early edition with ex bowl insulation, keeping 198 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: Kiwi homes warm and try this winter news talk z B. 199 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Andrew Ordison joins me to talk sport and behind him 200 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: is the Telly and there is Wimbledon and it's a 201 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: beautiful day and it's a close match. Yeah, this is 202 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: cracking stuff. 203 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 8: Is it to finish up and hopefully a better final 204 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 8: than the double bagel effort between innosim Over and in 205 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 8: Fiontic that we saw in the women's final, but this 206 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 8: one pretty tight. So six forward at alcare at the start, 207 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 8: six fod a sinner for the second set and it's 208 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 8: with serving the third Andrew. 209 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Exactly right, stay on the microphone. I know you're turning around, 210 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: but to look behind your back to look at it. 211 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: I just love watching Wimbledon. At least we got it 212 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: up in the Endustry's right, that's right now Rugby the 213 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: all backs back to their beguarding best. Yeah, convincing display. 214 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 4: Was that? 215 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 8: What forty three seventeen over France? Another? I guess well, 216 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 8: inexperienced French side and they'll put together what they would 217 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 8: consider their best outfit on tour for the third Test 218 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 8: in Hamilton. 219 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: Cracker. 220 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, and you can never underestimate France still, especially after 221 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 8: what we saw in the first Test. I thought the 222 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 8: All black's a lot more convincing. We're starting with that. 223 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: What would you call that ghost move? Yes, I thought 224 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 2: it was just avazing. 225 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right with Roy guard scoring a try, but 226 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 8: a brilliant piece of showmanship from Christian Leo Willie. 227 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: Did you catch South Africa? Did you catch South Africa, 228 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: this is Italy. In the very first kicker, they kick 229 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: it off and they purposely go offside, so they get 230 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 2: a scrum because they knew their scrum was better than theirs, 231 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 2: and so they tried to push them over right from 232 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: the stat trick. A whole lot of tricky stuff in Rugbia. 233 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, but it's quite good to see it, like seeing 234 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 8: a bit of innovation. And I just had a look 235 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 8: at few of those highlights from South Africa, Italy and 236 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 8: the South Africans or the spring box look mighty powerful 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 8: right across the park. Uh, I'm not quite sure what 238 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 8: was going on with that line? 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Did you see that? 240 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 8: Speaking minds gamely? The the line out that the string 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 8: box tried to they have metalfield. It was just that 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 8: was a bit out there, But I'll applaud the innovation 243 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 8: under the least. 244 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: The Lions game against the au in Ze team, why 245 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: were they not calling them the ANZACs because you kept 246 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: on going a u in Zen and I mean, no, 247 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not going with that name. 248 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 8: Is it is that sort of some political that you 249 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 8: want to associated with war or I don't know, I 250 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 8: don't know, but it's beyond that now, doesn't it. 251 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think it's a great idea. Yeah, absolutely, 252 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: even though it was a one sided game. 253 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 8: And speaking of teams that look convincing Wall, he's going 254 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 8: to have their work cut out. I think it's gonna 255 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 8: set lines out by the boil accounts of what was 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 8: seen so far, they look pretty pretty polished under Eddie Ferrell. 257 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Quick word about Sam Ruth, Who's who's the who's the 258 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: kid runner? Who's still informed? 259 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 8: What gaz word about Sam Ruth? This is a babe 260 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 8: Ruth or what do you got to call it? Amazing 261 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 8: just display you know, sixteen years old. Now he's got 262 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 8: another record, the Nest fifteen hundred meter marketing for under 263 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 8: seventeen under eighteen. He's got Sam Ten's under twenty record 264 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 8: already in a society's sixteen years old. I think he's 265 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 8: going to go to the World Champs as well, just 266 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 8: as a as observer if you're like in Tokyo in September. 267 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 2: Well, I like the way that Sam Tanner is actually 268 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: mentoring him, because he must have look at him and go, 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: here comes this kid to take all my stuff. But 270 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 2: that's okay because you know he's. 271 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 8: Been magnanimous hasn't he been the whole episode in how 272 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 8: it's all unfolding because he can see someone who really 273 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 8: has the pott to transform a little distinct running even 274 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 8: further than the next generation. 275 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: So good on him. 276 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Andrew Alderson. I thank you. Five to twenty 277 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: five the early. 278 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: Edition Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks 279 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: at Me news. 280 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 2: Talks here bs Hereah sent me an email saying, what's 281 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: this about a plane crash in England? There is a 282 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: plane crash in South End South End Airport. A beachcraft 283 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: crashed about four o'clock this morning, soon after taking off 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: and big duck smoke and it is a very s incident. 285 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: Will keep you up to date with details as they 286 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: come to hand. So I find it a bit ironic 287 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: that the government and the electorate are once again keen 288 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: on getting rid of some of the layers of our 289 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 2: council bureaucracy. The irony is this, first we've got New Zealand, first, 290 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: Shane Jones publicly questioning the role of regional councils, wondering 291 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: whether there's going to be a compelling case for regional 292 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: government to continue to exist. Then the Prime Minister Christopher 293 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: Leuxan told Mike Hosking that the government was looking at 294 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: local government reform, and on Friday, Matthew Houghton wrote a 295 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 2: piece about regional councils, reiterating a question Chris Bishop has 296 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 2: been asking, is there any point in having regional councils. 297 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: So it's on the table, And of course the battle 298 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: against bureaucracy is alive and well around the world. Duplication 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: of services and excessive layers of governance means that savings 300 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: could be made easily and safely, and it's something we've 301 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: already discussed. So look, last term the government reformed district 302 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: health boards from twenty boards into a single entity Health 303 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand or and that was just because that's gone now, 304 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: or is going because the new government has taken against it. 305 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: They want to return to locally delivered healthcare because they 306 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: believe in regional decision making being the best way to go, 307 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: So they aren't like that amalgamation. Meanwhile, reform of regional 308 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: councils looks awfully like the formation of all consupercity, a 309 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: reform that has heaps of the enemies because of its 310 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: devolution of power away from communities and as Houton says, 311 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: the reason we hate the super city are the cco's 312 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: council controlled organizations, which was supposed to replicate the state 313 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 2: owned enterprises. But the problem there is we can't because 314 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: there are no shares in CCOs, so they become the 315 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: worst of things, a mongol hybrid of council bureaucracies and 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: private monopolies. Anyway, it looks like we want to amalgamate 317 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: public bodies, but in the past, as I've pointed out, 318 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: we don't like it. We moan that our voices are 319 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: no longer heard and that the bureaucracies have become too 320 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 2: huge and out of control. So let's just centralize it. 321 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: So what is it people zibby when it's a town. 322 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: Over the course of the weekend went to a birthday 323 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: party as well. Town was very good. I have to 324 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: say town gets bad press. I'll tell you what was 325 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: good about it. In just a few moments time, we're 326 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: going to talk to Gavin Gray. Apparently in the UK 327 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: they're saying can we please have our rainback? And before 328 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 2: six we're talking to Axe Tertiary Education spokesperson doctor Palm 329 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: Jique Palmer, who's got a new plan to double the 330 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 2: amount of international students coming to this country. So what 331 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: is that plan and would it work? All that's still 332 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: to come on early edition here on news Talk. 333 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Zeb the news you Need this morning and the in 334 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: depth analysis earlier this year with Andrew Dickens and x 335 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: Full Insulation, keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter 336 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: News Talk Send. 337 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 9: Me we can last. 338 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 10: That's a great song, Lomas, name of the artist, lomase 339 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 10: Oh Olivia Dean oh right, came up on my Spotify 340 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 10: over the weekend. 341 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: Fantastic song. But there we go right. Actually, I had 342 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: a big weekend driving around listening to Olivia Dean on 343 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: my stereo. I went to Simon Wilson's seventieth birthday party, 344 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 2: the Herald journalist and former editor of Metro. You have 345 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: never been in a room so full of old fashioned 346 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 2: lefties and journalists, Hanks. This room was full of people 347 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: trying to save the world's problems and reminiscing about great 348 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 2: interviews that they'd done in the past. It was all 349 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: good fun. Happy birthday, Simon. I also went to the 350 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 2: Masters of Modern Art exhibition on loan from the Toledo 351 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: Art Gallery. It's full of Picasso's and renoirs and Metisa's. 352 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It is so popular you have to book 353 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 2: in a session. It's well worth it. And I went 354 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: on a Saturday, so I wandered through the Aukland CBD, 355 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, the hellhole of New Zealand, had a lunch 356 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: in a funky bower noodle shop. It was braised beef. 357 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 2: It was delicious, and I have to say town was 358 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: actually full of people, all doing a wander around this 359 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: new pedestrian city. And despite what you hear, Aucklands CBD 360 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: is actually getting better and better. Five midtown buildings have 361 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: just been bought by a developer and they plan to 362 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: spruce them up. That and the new railway station by 363 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: the Civic is the final piece of the puzzle to 364 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 2: fix up Queen Street because midtown is sill, a bit 365 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: of a wreck. And then I watched them right Ben. 366 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: I watched the all Backs get back to form and 367 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: this new temporary team of Ossie's and Kiwi's called au 368 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 2: n Z. I wish they could have a better name. 369 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,199 Speaker 2: They got Hammond forty eight bill and that's not surprising. 370 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,479 Speaker 2: They're only together for a week and the lions are 371 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: starting to harm. But I reckon the team was a 372 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: great idea and maybe maybe this au n Z team 373 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: should be touring the Northern Hemisphere every four years like 374 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: the Lions to the Southern Hemisphere. It'd be as big 375 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 2: as a Lions tour. I'd like to go on it, 376 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 2: travel all around Blightey watching the au n Z. It 377 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: could in fact be better than the the than the Lions. Meanwhile, 378 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: I've got a text from Dennis about the aun Z. 379 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: He says they should have warm up games against Maldi 380 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 2: and PACIFICA and Australian Indigenous teams or Super Rugby sides 381 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: during the next Lions tour to New Zealand and twenty 382 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: twenty nine so that they get better prepared. It's a 383 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: good concept. Well resurrected God thrash because of not enough preparation. 384 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: And then on the name, because I said, why can't 385 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 2: we call them ANZACs? They are not soldiers and apparently 386 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: you can't call them ANZACs according to Dennis unless the 387 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: Return Services Association or the RSL in Australia says it's okay. 388 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: So you can't just give away the name ANZAC just 389 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: like that. So we have to stick with a u 390 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: n Z, which is just a dull name. I'm sure 391 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: you've got a better idea Text it to me. Ninety 392 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: two ninety two, twenty one to six news talk zid 393 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 2: be around the country. We go Callum Proctor in Otago Halla, 394 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: Callum morning. So we had the sad tale of a 395 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: young young lad who died hunting on Stuart Island. At 396 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 2: his funeral today. 397 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, this is Job Davies Andrew who is from Tapanui. 398 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 11: He died after being shot while hunting two weekends ago 399 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 11: in Stuart Island. His body was found by a search 400 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 11: and rescue team responding to a personal locator beacon and 401 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 11: that incident has been referred to the coroner. Look, Jock 402 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 11: Davis is being remembered as a loved son and little 403 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 11: brother and a mate to many. And he went along 404 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 11: and well publicized battle with leukemia as a youngster. And 405 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 11: during that health battle he and his family became very 406 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 11: much involved with the Child Cancer Foundation, where his death 407 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 11: has been deeply felt. His funeral is this afternoon in Tapanui. 408 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 11: Jock Davies was just twenty. 409 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: One and I thank you. How's the weather for that? 410 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 9: Look? 411 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 7: Chance for a. 412 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 11: Shower about in the south today, clearing to find this 413 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 11: afternoon and Eden's high thirteen. 414 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: I thank you very much to Christy as we go, Emily, 415 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: and so good morning to you morning. So there's a 416 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: new exhibition about cemeteries. 417 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 12: There is Grave Insights, Plotting Lives and christ Church Cemeteries, 418 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 12: opens at Tudonga Library today. Acting Libraries and Information Rosie 419 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 12: Levi says it will appeal to if anyone who was 420 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 12: meandered through the city's heritage cemeteries and wondered about the 421 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 12: people buried there. A grandmother, a grandson buried side by side, 422 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 12: a soldier buried at sea, and one of the first 423 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 12: bell ringers of Christ Church Cathedral are among the stories 424 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 12: that have been uncovered. It runs until September fourteenth. 425 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: I love it. How's the weather. 426 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 12: Party, Cloudy with a chance of shower before dawn, clearing 427 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 12: to find by the afternoon, strong northeasterly is easing with 428 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 12: a high of sixteen degrees. 429 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: Oh, positively tropical and I think you Max told joins 430 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: me from Wellington, compording to your Max, good morning. You 431 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: guys are a bit grumpy about missing out on Lord. 432 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's exactly right. Becoming a bit of a theme 433 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 13: in the Capitol. In fact, we had Lewis Capaldi skip 434 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 13: Wellington as well to play Auckland and christ Church Lord, 435 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 13: as you say, now announced she's doing the same. Might 436 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 13: be a few reasons for it, perhaps the sky Stadium 437 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 13: not being as an attractive venue too big. What's most 438 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 13: likely though, is we just don't have that ideal mid 439 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 13: size venue like Spa or Wolfbrook in that ten to 440 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 13: fifteen thousand capacity range, and so fans have been bemoaning 441 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 13: Lord's absence on social media, promoters complaining again of that 442 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 13: lack of an appropriate venue. TSB holds five to six thousand. 443 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 13: For instance, a homegrown festival gone as well, christ Church 444 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 13: opening a new stadium as well may hurt us a 445 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 13: little bit in the long run. That's of course going 446 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 13: to be a world class venue. That may leave us 447 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 13: competing a bit more with Dunedin for say All Blacks 448 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 13: Tests for instance. Thank god we sold out Saturday and 449 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 13: it was a great atmosphere in Wellington over the weekend. 450 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you needed ten thousand in do all, 451 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: but good luck getting the money for that. How's your river? 452 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 13: It wild drizzley today, occasional showers fourteen the high Central. 453 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: And Neiva Ritchenman who now joins US from Walk Andhell 454 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: and Neva. Good morning, and water Care is upgrading the 455 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: wastewater network. 456 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 5: That's right, it's one point four kilometers of Newmarket's wastewater network. 457 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 5: Now this is part of a twelve million dollar annual 458 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 5: renewals program. Now the cruise, I've been investigating the new 459 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: Market section since April. The work is expected to be 460 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: finished by the end of August. The good news it 461 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 5: can all be done while the pipes remain in service. 462 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 5: And so once this work is finished, there should be 463 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: fewer overflows into the environment and it's going to improve 464 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 5: network resilience. 465 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: And I thank your house Awkin's weather. 466 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: Well, this fog this morning is going to clear then 467 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 5: scattered showers. Today's high in Auckland sixteen. 468 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: Yes, this is now seventeen to six. Andrew, New Zealand 469 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 2: and Australia should be one country anyway. That's Steve's thought 470 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: on the rugby team. Come on, that would be unfair 471 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: in the rugby world. Blair says, please stop banging on 472 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: about ANZAC because the AC stands for the Army Corps. Absolutely, 473 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: I understand that and as he says, that has nothing 474 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 2: to do with the money making professional rugby team. Thank 475 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: you Blair. That's a very good point. So my point 476 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: was what's a better name than AU and Z? So 477 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: come on, you guys and bright turn on your brains. 478 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: It's Monday morning. I've got one text that says oz 479 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: Kiwi would be a better name? Would the Australasians be 480 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: a better name? What's your call? Au n Z ain't 481 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 2: good enough? It is sixteen to six. We're off to 482 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 2: the UK with Gavin Gray in a few moments time. 483 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: They want some rain please? Can you believe it? This 484 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: is a new SOB good news for Milford's Now Milford 485 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: have just taken out the consuming New Zealand People's Choice 486 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: Award Keiwisaver for their Milford KEWISAB, a plan that makes 487 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: eight years in a row. 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Ah? 509 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 9: No, I couldn't talk to you if I were, could. 510 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 2: I No, you couldn't. That's sweet. So there's a group 511 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: called Palestine Action that's been designated a prescribed terrorist group 512 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: and they've been protesting about that. 513 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,479 Speaker 9: Yeah, they will start I think to worry about this 514 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 9: in the corridors of Power and the Downing Street because 515 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 9: this weekend more than seventy people have been arrested support 516 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 9: at the Palestine Action, which the government only recently said, 517 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 9: actually we're going to describe this now as a terrorist group, 518 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 9: which means it comes under anti terrorism legislation and it 519 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 9: is an offense to support it or indeed publicize support 520 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 9: for it. As a result, now this weekend we've seen 521 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 9: arrests in London, but also in Manchester and also in Cardiff. 522 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 9: In total seventy people now looking at the pictures and 523 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 9: those who were attending and those who were simply holding 524 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 9: up a placard saying I oppose genocide, I support Palestine Action, 525 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 9: that's all it says. They were mostly sort of elderly, 526 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 9: very peaceful, just holding a placard, not even chanting or 527 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 9: saying very much, and yet they're being arrested. Add the 528 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 9: seventy arrested today onto the forty two arrested last week, 529 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 9: and this could become a real worry for the government 530 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 9: as this demonstration picks up place. This all incidentally happened 531 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 9: when Palestine Action damaged two Royal Air Force aircraft in 532 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 9: our base, Arif base they broke into, causing roughly fifteen 533 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 9: million New Zealand dollars worth of damage. But exactly how 534 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 9: many more people do they want to arrest for holding 535 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 9: up a black up. 536 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: Meanwhile Brits are saying can we have our rainbeck please? 537 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. I've been another warm day today, So there was 538 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 9: a forecast of thirty four yesterday. I think we got 539 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 9: to about thirty two today. We're down to thirty one. 540 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 9: Tomorrow will be cooler still, but that over thirty Celsius 541 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 9: has meant that we are in a heat wave. And Andrew, 542 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 9: this is our third one of the year and it 543 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 9: is that fact which is more amazing, because of course 544 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 9: we are only still coming up to mid July. We've 545 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 9: got at least the rest of July, August to possibly 546 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 9: the start of September when there could be potentially more 547 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 9: heat waves. But of more concern, it is now said 548 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 9: that seven million people are under a host pipe ban 549 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 9: and potential water restrictions in Yorkshire in the northeast, Kent 550 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 9: in the southeast, and Sussex on the south coast. So 551 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 9: activities like watering gardens, washing cars, filling up paddling pools, 552 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 9: those are all banned you could face a fine. And 553 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 9: also Southeast Water saying drinking water demand has reached record 554 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 9: levels since May. They are desperate for rain, some suggesting 555 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 9: we could see these drought impositions, these host pipe bands 556 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 9: and so forth in place right through until the winter. 557 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: Kevin Gray from the UK, I thank you for your time, 558 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: and meanwhile, Sinner seems to be taking control by bit. 559 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: Remember Alcoreth has won five Grand Slam finals that he's 560 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: been in a row, so this might be the turning tide. 561 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: It is now five point fifty zid. Well, we've got 562 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 2: a new plan from the government to double the amount 563 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: of international students contributing to our economy to seven point 564 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: two billion dollars by twenty thirty four. So this plan 565 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 2: includes extending in study work rights to students from November 566 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: and could enroll an extra twenty one three hundred students 567 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: by twenty twenty seven. Dr Panji Pama is ex Education 568 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: spokesperson and joins me this morning, come on into your 569 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 2: palms eat, Good morning Andrew. So how does the plan work? 570 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 4: So what I would say is that the changes are good, 571 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 4: but universities need to do their part as well. So 572 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 4: marketing campaigns. These are two as are great, but universities 573 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 4: must focus on improving their international rankings because international rankings 574 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: are a key factor when students are deciding which university 575 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: to go to. So universities must ensure that their packages 576 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 4: are appealing and are internationally relevant. So that means no 577 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: compulsory treaty courses, no creep of ticanga into science, because 578 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 4: universities need to be careful that they are not becoming 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: inward looking. These things might be of interest to some 580 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: students in New Zealand, but when international students are coming here, 581 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 4: they are basically wanting to prepare themselves for a global career. 582 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: And tell me about this in study work? Right, do 583 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: we not offer them the ability to work while they're studying, 584 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 2: to make money to get by? 585 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 4: So that is, but most of the money does come 586 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 4: from overseas. Any money that is coming from overseas is 587 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: great for us. So international students are unit positive, all right. 588 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: So would international students come here with this plan? Because 589 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: I have to say, your party is quite often telling 590 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: the world that New Zealand's not a great place right 591 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: now in it's in poor shape. Why would they want 592 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: to come here? 593 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 4: I don't agree with that description there. Our education system 594 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: works really well, but as I have highlighted that universities 595 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 4: need to do their part as well. So we want 596 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 4: to ensure that universities are working hard to ensure that 597 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: their international rankings are improving and the packages that they're 598 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 4: offering are internationally relevant. 599 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 2: Very good stuff, doctor Palmzi Palma, who is ex Education spokesperson, 600 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: I thank you for your time. It is seven minutes 601 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: to six. 602 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: It's the new Stalk b the first word on the 603 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: News of the Day early edition with Andrew Dickins and 604 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: expole insulation keeping Kighi Holmes warm and dry this winter 605 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: US talk said. 606 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: Be all right. So I watched this au n Z 607 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: team against the Lions over the weekend and I thought, 608 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: what a great idea, and we should actually get together 609 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 2: an au n Z team every four years and they 610 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: should tour the Northern Hemisphere and be just like the Lions, 611 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: but in reverse, and that would be great. But I 612 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: also thought the name au n Z sucked big time, 613 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: and I said, why don't they call them the ANZACs, 614 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: But of course that says Army Corps and then you'd 615 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: have to get the approval of the RSA and the 616 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: RSL to use it, and they're not soldiers. And I 617 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: said to you guys, what's the names that we should 618 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: call them, Drew reckons, they should be called the Antipodeans. 619 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people saying Zilandier because it's the joining continent. 620 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: Somebody says, Ozzie tier Row, difficult to say. Gold Blacks 621 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: is a good idea, But I think the best one 622 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: I've got at the moment would be calling them the diggers. 623 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 2: But they're not soldiers. 624 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 14: But hang on a tech, why can't they be called 625 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 14: the ANZACs. 626 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: Because that stands for Australia and New Zealand Army Corps 627 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: And these are rugby players. 628 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 14: You can't tell me seriously, they have to go to 629 00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 14: the RSA. 630 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because ANZAC is a holy unsacred name. Oh 631 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: that is oh well, yeah, I know, an is easy 632 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: suck sometimes. 633 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 14: You know what that is about, though, Andrew, That is 634 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 14: about us not wanting to offend someone, right, we're terrified. 635 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: With the soldiers, a soldier who gave his life for 636 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 2: our countries. 637 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 14: Stop worrying about it. It's the obvious name. Just call 638 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 14: them the ANZACs. 639 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: What about the Southern Stars? Oh no, because that is 640 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 2: lime somebody says, did you call them the lu Zayes 641 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: the lu z a yes, is what like losers? Ha ha? Yeah, okay, 642 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 2: what you do. 643 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 14: But we're going to actually speaking of ANZACs. We are 644 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 14: participating New Zealand over in Australia right now in this 645 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 14: joint military exercise with the US and a bunch of 646 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 14: other countries. 647 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: About nineteen of US nineteen soldiers. 648 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 14: No, sure, No, we're sending seven hundred. Did you even 649 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 14: know we had seven hundred soldiers? 650 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 2: Oh, we do, but we don't pay them. Seven hundred soldiers, 651 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: one vessel and one drone. We're sending them over. We're 652 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: going to talk about that. That drone is going to 653 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: be really scary. Buy Sorry, we shouldn't be like this. 654 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: Thank you to you for your service, Thank you for 655 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: your The Prime minister, Oh, the Prime Minister is back. 656 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 2: He's back from Holly Bops. See how Tandy is my 657 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 2: Thanks for producer Kensey. I'm Andrew Dick and see you tomorrow. 658 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 659 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or 660 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.