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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: We get the answers, find the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Bryan Bridge on Hither Dupericy Ellen Drive With's One New

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Speaker 2: Doorgs V coming up.

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Speaker 3: Van Velden on the sick pay leave changes. Shane Jones

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Speaker 3: on the immigration squabble with the Coalition. We're in the UK,

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Speaker 3: we're in Australia and we're in the High Court for

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Speaker 3: the suitcase murder trial verdict.

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Speaker 4: Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Winston's back banging his trusty old immigration drum election year,

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Speaker 3: So no surprises there, nor should there be any surprise though,

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Speaker 3: with the rest of the Coalition keen to keep skilled

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Speaker 3: workers in this country. It's what business wants, and generally speaking,

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Speaker 3: what business wants with the government right of center, it gets.

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Speaker 3: So before we go barking mad on migration, let's take

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Speaker 3: a look at the facts, shall we. Is this an

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Speaker 3: OPRAH car competition, carte blanche residency lolly scramble? No, The

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Speaker 3: numbers somewhere between three and a half thousand and nine

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Speaker 3: thousand people, which barely touches the sides on our four

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Speaker 3: in from all corners of the earth. No, they're already here.

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Speaker 3: You have to be working here. In order to qualify,

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Speaker 3: you have to have proven yourself. You have to be

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Speaker 3: well paid, at least thirty six bucks an hour qualified.

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Speaker 3: This is not a low rent crowd coming in. Is

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Speaker 3: this a backdoor into Australia, Well, it can be. But

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Speaker 3: to get through that door, you first have to become

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Speaker 3: a citizen of New Zealand. Let's call that a ten

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Speaker 3: year process. Plus the Minister reckons a further four across

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Speaker 3: the ditch before you'll be a citizen there. So if

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Speaker 3: you're willing to spend fourteen years gaming assistant to become

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Speaker 3: a citizen of Australia, I think you probably deserve it.

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Speaker 3: Is this, as Winston Peters press release claim today, another

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Speaker 3: example of our proudweed country being fleeced by take all,

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Speaker 3: give nothing migrants. We train them up, he says, we

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Speaker 3: look after them, and then they ditch us across the ditch. Well, no,

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Speaker 3: these people are all already trained and experienced, and they

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Speaker 3: will pay taxes like the rest of us. Does he

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Speaker 3: have a point on the wider problem that we have

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Speaker 3: with educating and training people who are actually born here. Yes,

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Speaker 3: but as even he points out, governments of all stripes

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Speaker 3: have been trying to fix that problem for decades. The

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Speaker 3: fix remains elusive. But in the meantime, why punish decent

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Speaker 3: Kiwi businesses who've managed to find themselves a decent skilled worker.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to globalization. We sell stuff to the world, using,

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Speaker 3: in part a global workforce to do it. Pray, I

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Speaker 3: am bread bread nine after four seven nine nine two

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Speaker 3: is the numbers of text. Trump says, don't take panadol

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Speaker 3: they call it taralanol if you're pregnant, because your baby

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Speaker 3: might get autism. True story. Have a listen.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I think I could say that

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Speaker 5: there are certain groups of people that don't take baccine

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Speaker 5: and don't take any pills that have no autism. Does

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Speaker 5: that tell you something that's currently Is that a correct statement?

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Speaker 2: By the way, there.

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Speaker 6: Are some studies that suggested to say yeah with the Amish,

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Speaker 2: The Amish.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, virtually, I heard none.

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Speaker 3: Right, That was RFK Junior you heard in the background.

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Speaker 3: He wants a form of folic acid approved as a

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Speaker 3: treatment for children with autism, calling it an epidemic. Medsafe

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Speaker 3: by the way, says there's no proven link between parastamol

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Speaker 3: and autism. Dane Duggan is Autism New Zealand Chief executive

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Speaker 3: with me this afternoon. Hi Dane, Hey Ryan, how are

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Speaker 3: you very well? Thank you? What did you make at

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Speaker 7: It was hard to watch. We've got serious concerns about

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Speaker 7: these misleading claims. As you mentioned before, Midsafe said there

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Speaker 7: is no lack or sorry, there is no evidence that

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Speaker 7: all to show there's a link between paracetamol and autism

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Speaker 7: when the mother's pregnant. It can be really harmful these

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Speaker 7: that cause autism creates a lot of issues in in itself,

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Speaker 7: this point in time. So it's really really concerning. As

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Speaker 7: was talking about autism as a major issue. We take

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Speaker 7: that having diversity in society can make a really positive

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Speaker 7: difference in society. And we also know that our community,

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Speaker 7: if you get the right supports around them, can live

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Speaker 7: the press conference this morning really was overly optimistic from

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Speaker 2: Dane.

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Speaker 3: He says, it's an epidemic, and we've heard this before,

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Speaker 3: that there are more and more people kids with autism

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Speaker 3: said I've never met a seventy year old man with autism.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to laugh, But is it true.

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Speaker 7: No, So as our understanding of autisms grown and evolved,

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Speaker 7: which has led to more people being diagnosed, which I

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Speaker 7: think is a positive thing because it allows them to

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Speaker 7: understand themselves a bit better. One of the first people

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Speaker 7: there's no doubt about that. That's been definitively proved. So

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Speaker 7: means that jumps the numbers as well. So I think

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Speaker 7: it's sit in about right. Probably the numbers. We don't

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Speaker 7: in many different ways. But it seems about right to me.

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Speaker 7: And look, whether it's about support or not, it's actually

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Speaker 3: All right, Dane, appreciate your time this afternoon. Thanks for

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Speaker 3: being with me. Dame Duggan, who's Autism New Zealand Chief Executive,

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Speaker 3: has just gone twelve minutes after four News Talks, MB

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Speaker 3: Darcy is here with Sport.

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Speaker 4: Next it's the Heather Duper see Allan Drive Full Show.

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Speaker 3: News Talks AB has just gone quarter past four. The

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Speaker 3: autism tail and Ole panadole thing is kicking off on

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Speaker 3: the text machine. There are so many people who are

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Speaker 3: saying it's true. Pot you anyway, let's hear from Trump.

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Speaker 3: Apparently he struggled to even pronounce the medical ingredients that

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Speaker 5: Effective immediately, the FDA will be notifying physicians at the

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Speaker 5: use of said, well, let's see how we say that.

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Speaker 5: I said a menafin, a sa Menafin said, okay, anyway.

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Speaker 3: So he says pregnant women shouldn't take parwer see them all,

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Speaker 5: You just can't tough it out. No matter what you do,

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Speaker 5: you can't tough it out. So that's up to you

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Speaker 3: Robert I. F. Kennedy Junior said he's never seen a

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Speaker 6: If it were better recognition or diagnosis, you'd see it

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Speaker 6: in the seventy year old men. I've never seen this happening,

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Speaker 6: and people my age, you're only seeing it in a kid.

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Speaker 3: It's an epidemic, right to all of us. Off they

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Speaker 3: link the vaccines and pills to autism. Then Trump reiterates it. Actually,

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Speaker 3: he's a big believer in the importance of vaccines.

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Speaker 5: So I'm a big believer in vaccine, so polio vaccine,

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Speaker 5: big big believer in vaccines. I know Bobby and you

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Speaker 5: believer in vaccines too. But I've seen how great vaccines

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Speaker 5: can be, how incredible they can be. So I'm a believer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And I'm just colorly confused.

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Speaker 3: Possibly seventeen, Darcy said, Hey, Darce.

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Speaker 8: I was waiting for the I know more about vaccines

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Speaker 8: in procession, Where did the Hannah Barbara music coming? Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 8: I'll get back to sport. That's stay in your lane, Darcy.

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Speaker 3: You know, do you know what it's? I feel I

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Speaker 3: just saying something. Hey, yesterday we're talking about this match fixing,

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Speaker 3: the potential for match fixing and football domestic league here.

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Speaker 3: Have we heard anything from the players of what, you know,

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Speaker 8: who is the Sports Integrity Commissioned CEO. She's going to

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Speaker 8: a number of lines along this? I suppose first and foremost,

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Speaker 8: how do they protect their athletes? That's the first thing.

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Speaker 8: If you don't know, and this is all underground, you

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Speaker 8: a lot of people are very innocent, pure as driven

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Speaker 8: to Rebecca Rolls about the protection of athletes and what

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Speaker 8: concerns are being raised, what avenues they've got to raise concerns.

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Speaker 8: But you know, if some awful bad man has turned

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Speaker 8: on you and starts threatening, they they'll go to great

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Speaker 3: Money a lot. They're speaking of money Formula one jeep

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Speaker 3: as Christian Horner. Is this true? One hundred and eighty

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Speaker 2: It really is.

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Speaker 8: It's a billionaire's sport.

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Speaker 3: It's it's wild, wild career.

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Speaker 8: The next step though, is he's only a young follow

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Speaker 8: He's only like fifty fifty one something like that, so.

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Speaker 3: And he can go do it coach and.

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Speaker 8: Well he's the principal, so he's basically the overlord of everything,

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Speaker 8: and he oversaw the rise and rise of red ball

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Speaker 8: sought after by a number of teams, but the question

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Speaker 3: Lots of options, lots more money to make it possibly.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's in it for money anymore. I

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Speaker 8: really don't think it's beyond money.

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Speaker 11: I don't need you coming here, Hard questions, Strong opinion,

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Speaker 13: This recognition is a way of affirming that the Palestinian

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Speaker 3: They really are high. Sam Imrie, Australia corresponds, Sam, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the show. No meeting for Trump. No meeting, I

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Speaker 14: other areas that are probably struggling right now.

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Speaker 2: Ryan.

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Speaker 14: So I think it's just more testament to the times

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Speaker 14: of people are actually tightening the belts, and you know,

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Speaker 14: these are the first ones to hit the to get

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Speaker 14: hit by these sorts of restrictions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, as samppreciate your time. Sam Emory, Australia correspondent

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Speaker 3: with US nineteen minutes away from five on News talks.

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Speaker 3: He'd be We'll get to Shane Jones after five as well.

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Speaker 3: On this coalition split, their all agree to disagree clause

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Speaker 3: has been invoked. It's all over immigration. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: that with the Minister. Well, I should say Deputy Leader

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Speaker 3: as he is now called Deputy Leader of New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First is joining us after five along with Brook van Valden.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, it's Cizari how the inside word on

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Speaker 3: the potential next Reserve Bank governor of New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen to five news talks Bezaria House with US Politics. Heyzarion, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 3: A lot of talk around town, lot of speculation about

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Speaker 3: this new Reserve Bank governor.

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Speaker 2: What do we know?

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I've got a big update for you. It's understood

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Speaker 15: that an announcement is being made tomorrow on this. This

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Speaker 15: is a massive deal and it comes after Adrian Orr

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Speaker 15: resigned in March and Neil quickly resigned last month. So

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Speaker 15: this topic has been well traversed. Lots of discussion about

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Speaker 15: why some details were seemingly left out of information releases,

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Speaker 15: quite a lot as well of speculation in the background

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Speaker 15: of this one Christian Hawksby has been the acting governor

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Speaker 15: of the Reserve Bank during this time, and financial business

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Speaker 15: company Bloomberg is reporting that a woman may be appointed

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Speaker 15: to the Central Bank's top role. Now that would actually

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Speaker 15: be the first time a woman is appointed to lead

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Speaker 15: New Zealand's central bank. Bloomberg also reporting there the new

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Speaker 15: governor is not someone from New Zealand. The heralds Liam

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Speaker 15: dan as Well reports that Bank of England Deputy Governor

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Speaker 15: Sarah Breeden is being tipt is one of the top

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Speaker 15: women for the job. So yes, it has understood. An

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Speaker 15: announcement is taking place tomorrow, will be across all the

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Speaker 15: big updates. It will be a huge deal and hopefully

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Speaker 15: the end of a rocky period for the Reserve Bank.

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Speaker 15: So really looking forward to that announcement.

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Speaker 3: New Zealand First, we'll talk to Shane Jones after five.

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Speaker 3: But they're invoking the agree to disagree. This is over

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Speaker 3: the latest immigration policy from the coalition.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it essentially means New Zealand First has drawn a

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Speaker 15: line in the sand here. So just going into the policy,

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Speaker 15: the Finance Minister and Immigration Minister have announced changes to

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Speaker 15: these skilled migrant visa they're putting in place two new

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Speaker 15: residence pathways from mid next year. One of them is

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Speaker 15: in skilled work and another categorized for trades and technicians.

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Speaker 15: New Zealand First leader Winston Peters Well, he's spoken to

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Speaker 15: media from New York. He's there for the UN and

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Speaker 15: he's essentially calling for the country to get on top

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Speaker 15: of its skills and training as a first.

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Speaker 3: Point of call.

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Speaker 16: Zilchess has that position, and we've always said that we

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Speaker 16: should skill and train our own people first, and.

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Speaker 15: Z First has said, quote, while we recognize the importance

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Speaker 15: of retaining some critical workers, we have serious concerns about

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Speaker 15: what they call an unfocused immigration proposal. Here's Nikola Willis

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Speaker 15: on the.

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Speaker 17: Thing, and so we don't think that this presents the

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Speaker 17: risks or dangers that New Zealand First may perceive.

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Speaker 15: So the Finance and Economic Growth Minister, they're highlighting the disagreement.

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Speaker 15: She says they've designed the pathway to be really narrow

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Speaker 15: and she's not too concerned about that. Agree to disagree clause.

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Speaker 17: This just reflects stable coalition management, which is from time

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Speaker 17: to time parties have slightly different perspectives on issues.

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Speaker 15: So Nicola Willis and the Immigration Minister are both pointing

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Speaker 15: to the policy is something that will benefit economic growth

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Speaker 15: and Immigration Minister Erica Stanford has also confirmed that exclusions

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Speaker 15: will apply. She says the government has been very targeted

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Speaker 15: and very selected in this.

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Speaker 18: We will attract migrants to come to New Zealand knowing

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Speaker 18: that they've got a pathway, but remembering that they can't

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Speaker 18: come unless they have a job offer that has been

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Speaker 18: fully tested in New Zealand to make sure there wasn't

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Speaker 18: a key we available to.

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Speaker 15: Do the job and looking at the bigger picture. Immigration

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Speaker 15: has been a huge topic for New Zealand First for

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Speaker 15: quite some time. It was discussed a whole lot at

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Speaker 15: the party's conference which I was reporting at. It does

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Speaker 15: seem to be a bit of a point of difference

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Speaker 15: between the parties and the coalition. So I'm sure there'll

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Speaker 15: be more to come from this.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Hey, what do we know. What's the big takeaway

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Speaker 3: from this sick leave, annual leave, big pay debicle thing

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Speaker 3: that's happened that Van Velden's trying to fix up.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, so a huge package of reforms to the Wide

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Speaker 15: Reaching Holidays Act that will be a thing of the past.

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Speaker 15: It's being repealed and replaced. So some main points from

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Speaker 15: this one. There's quite a lot to digest here. Sick

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Speaker 15: leave will be capped at one hundred and sixty hours,

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Speaker 15: and it can be taken in hours rather than full

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Speaker 15: days at a time, so it means you can sort

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Speaker 15: of go to the doctor for an hour or so

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Speaker 15: and not have to take the entire day off of work.

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Speaker 15: Some other big changes part time workers will no longer

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Speaker 15: have a minimum sick leave entitlement. Family violence leaver and

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Speaker 15: bereavement leaver crew can also start from day one, and

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Speaker 15: also with this policy, employees will earn annual leave from

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Speaker 15: day one that's proportionate to their contracted hours. The Minister

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Speaker 15: Brook van Velden has said that businesses should focus on

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Speaker 15: their actual business rather than sort of the complex legislation

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Speaker 15: the rules that are currently in place.

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Speaker 12: But I've intentionally tried to strike a balance between the

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Speaker 12: rights and interests of employers and workers. So you'll see

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Speaker 12: that in some instances workers will benefit and in some

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Speaker 12: instances employees will benefit.

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Speaker 15: And worth pointing out with this one, there's a two

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Speaker 15: year period from when the bill is passed until when

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Speaker 15: it comes into force, so there is quite a bit

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Speaker 15: of breathing room in terms of these changes.

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Speaker 3: Sari appreciate that Asaria Hell with politics eleven minutes away

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Speaker 3: from five. Coming up after five, we're also going to

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Speaker 3: talk about the if you're a shop owner, dairy owner,

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Speaker 3: and someone's stolen from your store and you have put

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Speaker 3: a photo up or a video up from your CCTV cameras,

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Speaker 3: look out, Privacy commissioners got a warning for you. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the punishment would be if you did

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Speaker 3: that and accidentally pointed at the wrong person or identified

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Speaker 3: the wrong person, but we will ask. Now, there was

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Speaker 3: a story out this morning. This is on healthcare, and

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Speaker 3: loads of texts on this already. Ryan, I can assure

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Speaker 3: you from personal experience as this listener, thank you for

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Speaker 3: your message that healthcare for coronary patients in the South

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Speaker 3: Island is dire. Months to get and to see a specialist,

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Speaker 3: let alone a surgery. Patients are dying. Believe me, Ryan,

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Speaker 3: and Denedin is worse. Now, this story came out, healthcare

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Speaker 3: crisis hits the headline, and we've seeing these all the time,

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Speaker 3: don't we. But I see you beds in Christ. This

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Speaker 3: is what it's focused on. Shortage delays to heart surgeries.

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Speaker 3: Sounds very bad, gets worse story says Health New Zealand

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Speaker 3: cut ICEE you beds from thirty six to twenty four

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Speaker 3: back in March, and you think, what a curious thing

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Speaker 3: to do. Why would you do that given what everyone

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Speaker 3: says about the demand. Apparently you go back to March

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Speaker 3: and you find out what they said at the time.

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Speaker 3: They said that they cut the ICU staff and the

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Speaker 3: ICU pods from three to two because of demand, that

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Speaker 3: there wasn't the demand for those beds, so they cut them.

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Speaker 3: And they've also come out and see we've only had

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Speaker 3: to defer a small number of elective surgeries as a

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Speaker 3: result of this. So who's right? Is there a healthcare

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Speaker 3: elective healthcare, heart surgery crisis in christ Church? Or actually

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Speaker 3: was there too much supply and they were right to

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Speaker 3: cut it in the first place. Nine two nine two

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Speaker 3: you tell me nine to five news talks at be.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 19: Milton Johns is the CEO of Genesis Energy. Do we

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Speaker 19: get to a point as the gas runs out but

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Speaker 19: the renewables increase that were all renewable, no gas, no cult.

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Speaker 20: It's unlikely just because of the fact that we rely

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Speaker 20: so heeafully on Mother Nature. But we will become more

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Speaker 20: renewable as we go forward.

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Speaker 2: How worried about gas are you? Bearing?

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Speaker 20: All our fields are reaching end of life, particularly.

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Speaker 19: Offshore field And so when you're say end of life,

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Speaker 19: you don't mean literal no gas, you just mean that

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Speaker 19: the demand outstrips the supply.

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Speaker 20: No, I'm meaning that as a gas well comes to

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Speaker 20: the end of life, its production becomes unpredictable and it

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Speaker 20: will at some states cease to produce.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 19: Back tomorrow at six am the Mike asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: a Vida Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB has just gone six minutes away from five.

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Speaker 3: We are checking the record, by the way, on Sarah Breden.

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Speaker 3: This is the who they think, what the I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's no one really knows who it's going to be

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Speaker 3: at this point, but they're saying it's a foreigner. They're

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Speaker 3: saying it's a woman, first woman to lead the Reserve

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Speaker 3: Bank of New Zealand, and Bloomberg's published an article basically

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Speaker 3: saying it's probably going to be Sarah Breden. She's currently

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Speaker 3: the Deputy Governor for Financial Stability at the Bank of England.

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Speaker 3: So we're just checking the record because unlike New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: they publish who votes up who votes down on interest rates,

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Speaker 3: and she's on the Monetary policy committee there, so we'll

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Speaker 3: look at that and tell you whether she's dubblish or not.

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Speaker 3: That's really the only question, the only qualification. I should

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Speaker 3: say that you need to run the New Zealand Reserve Bank. Russell.

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Speaker 3: Great news for you. I'm a big fan of Russell.

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Speaker 3: Got married in Russell. It's a beautiful little town, very picturesque,

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Speaker 3: right on the water. You can go to the Juke

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Speaker 3: of Marlbre, get yourself a beer and feel like you

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Speaker 3: are a million miles away. Fewer than a thousand people

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Speaker 3: live there. Could be our next globally recognized World Heritage

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Speaker 3: Site by UNESCO. Russell, I know, and interesting you look

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Speaker 3: at the I mean it's first capital obviously, first place

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Speaker 3: Europeans Land. Gorgeous, absolutely gorgeous, no doubt that it should

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Speaker 3: be on a list somewhere. But it got me thinking

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Speaker 3: what else is actually on? What do we have on

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Speaker 3: the UNESCO World Heritage List? And it ain't much. Currently

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Speaker 3: we have three entries to Waipepnamu, which is where Greenstone

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Speaker 3: comes from. It's basically the South Island, the beautiful part

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Speaker 3: of the South Island, the sub Antarctic Islands, tong Adito

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Speaker 3: Crossing is on there as a mixed natural and cultural site.

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Speaker 3: Three doesn't sound like enough for a country like ours.

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Speaker 3: North Korea has three. You know, Australia has twenty one

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Speaker 3: and I know they're bigger. The Sydney Opera House is

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Speaker 3: on there. How on earth can the Sydney Opera House

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Speaker 3: be on there and not some of the more beautiful

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Speaker 3: parts of New Zealand. What about Skytower? So we've got

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Speaker 3: to get our numbers up. I think it's a bit embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Add Russell to the list. Bring that on. But what

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Speaker 3: else can we submit? What else can we chuck on

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Speaker 3: the list? Nine two nine two After five point thirty,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about Palestine, and I know some

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Speaker 3: people don't look like talking about it, but we will

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Speaker 3: talk about it because the Palestinian Authority is the one

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Speaker 3: being recognized, and we're talking to a member of the

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Speaker 3: Palestinian Authority about exactly what will be recognized. And interesting

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Speaker 3: if you look at what Canada has put out on

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Speaker 3: their statement recognizing a Palestinian state under the Palestinian Authority,

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Speaker 3: but the Palestinian authority obviously doesn't control half the territory,

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Speaker 3: and there's a caveat on this anyway that they must

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Speaker 3: have elections and it's conditional on no Hamas involvement. So

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Speaker 3: there's a caveat on a hypothetical situation. Would you call

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Speaker 3: that recognition? What exactly is it? Recognition of the palest

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Speaker 3: And authority? Beyond that? Brook van Velden After five Shane

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Speaker 3: Jones on the disagreement between the Coalition and New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First All Ahead News Talk SPB.

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Speaker 4: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duper Sellen dry with one

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Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else saw.

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Speaker 3: Good evening six half six alfter five. Rather great to

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Speaker 3: have your company made you shake up. Coming to how

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Speaker 3: your leave is calculated the workplace relations, Minister Brook van

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Speaker 3: Velden says the Broken Holidays actor is going being scrapped

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Speaker 3: replaced with a more streamlined system. One of the big

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Speaker 3: changes part time staff will no longer get a flat

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Speaker 3: minimum sick leave entitlement and titlement's moving to a pro

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Speaker 3: rater basis. Brook van Valdeen with me now, Minister Good evening,

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Ryan. Why a pro rater system, Why that

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Speaker 3: rather than everyone just getting the same.

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Speaker 12: Well, because this is about fairness across the system. You know,

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Speaker 12: there are a lot of businesses that have seriously struggled

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Speaker 12: with the labour's changes to sickly when everyone went to

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Speaker 12: ten days, no matter how many hours they worked. And

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Speaker 12: what I've been hearing loudly from the business community is

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Speaker 12: they want it to be proportionate to the number of

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Speaker 12: hours that people actually work. And I'll just give you

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Speaker 12: an example of how that works out. You know, if

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Speaker 12: you've got someone who works full time and they've got

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Speaker 12: the flu for the week, they're going to need five

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Speaker 12: days sick leave for that to recover. However, if that

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Speaker 12: worker is only working one day a week, they don't

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Speaker 12: need five days sick leave to recover. They only need

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Speaker 12: the one day because they were only expecting to work

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Speaker 12: one day out of that five. So this is actually

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Speaker 12: proportionate for the hours worked and it's much fairer for

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Speaker 12: business to me.

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Speaker 3: What about the minimum sickly But if you're a part

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Speaker 3: time worker, you don't get a minimum sickly entitlement anymore?

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Speaker 12: Why no minimum Well, the way that we're wanting it

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Speaker 12: to work is based on this basic principle. People will

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Speaker 12: earn leave for the hours that they actually work. That

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Speaker 12: will be across annual leave and sick leave. So from

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Speaker 12: the first day of work, everyone will earn for the

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Speaker 12: hours that they actually do. This means for a full

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Speaker 12: time employee, the status quo will still remain. Most people

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Speaker 12: won't notice any difference other than the calculations behind the scene.

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Speaker 12: So a full time employee will earn from day one

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Speaker 12: rather than being entitled to leave after twelve months of employment,

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Speaker 12: but they'll get still the equivalent of four weeks. The

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Speaker 12: same for sick leave. If they've done that full year

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Speaker 12: at a full time rate, they'll still get ten days

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Speaker 12: of sick leave. However, for someone who's work fewer hours,

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Speaker 12: they won't be entitled to the ten days sickly, but

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Speaker 12: it will be based on how many hours did you

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Speaker 12: actually work, And if you look at that from the

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Speaker 12: annual leave side, that means that you get the same

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Speaker 12: proportion of annual nevers.

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Speaker 21: This is fair.

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Speaker 3: Who gets Does anyone miss out or lose out more

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Speaker 3: than others? I mean, do employers benefit here or employees more?

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Speaker 3: Or is it pretty much even Stevens across the board

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Speaker 3: or you don't know.

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Speaker 12: Well, the way it will work across the overall economy

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Speaker 12: is it should be cross neutral. But there have been

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Speaker 12: trade offs that do need to be made, depending on

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Speaker 12: possible for depending.

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Speaker 3: On where you are and what your hours are, all

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Speaker 3: that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 12: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: What about labor. But I think the big problem here

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Speaker 3: is labour going to agree to what you have proposed,

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Speaker 3: because if they get in interf it out, we are

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Speaker 3: back to square one.

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Speaker 12: I certainly hope that that's not going to happen because

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Speaker 12: what I've tried to do this whole way through is

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Speaker 12: not trying and be ideological, very pragmatic about the trade offs.

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Speaker 12: There will be some employees who do benefit, and there

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Speaker 12: will be some employers who benefit as well. It'll be

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Speaker 12: based on all of those individual circumstances. But my overall

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Speaker 12: aim here is to create a law that would be enduring,

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Speaker 12: because we know the worst thing for business is when

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Speaker 12: they don't have stability or know that it's going to

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Speaker 12: be a political football that goes back and forth. So

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Speaker 12: instead of looking at this and saying all employers win

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Speaker 12: on every single part, I've tried to make as many

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Speaker 12: pragmatic calls as possible about employee and employer trade offs

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Speaker 12: to ensure that this bill, once it's an act, will

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Speaker 12: endure for decades to come.

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Speaker 3: Right, mister, appreciate your time, Brook van Valden, workplace relations. Minister.

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Speaker 3: Time is ten after.

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Speaker 4: Five, Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: You know the Auckland mom whose kids were found dead

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Speaker 3: in suitcases, Well she's been found guilty of murder. Hook

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Speaker 3: Young Lee has admitted she killed her kids in late

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Speaker 3: June twenty eighteen, but her defense argued she was not

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Speaker 3: guilty by reason of insanity. Jury took less than four

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Speaker 3: hours to reach its verdict. Newstoks B reporter Emily Ansel

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Speaker 3: was in court, good evening. Hello, what was the reaction?

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Speaker 22: Well, the reaction in court was pretty swift, about as

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Speaker 22: swift as this trial has gone. Lee was standing, but she,

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Speaker 22: as she has done throughout the trials, she kept her

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Speaker 22: head about and her hands crossed, and she was quickly

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Speaker 22: escorted out following those verdicts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and the insanity claim from the defense, What was

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Speaker 3: that based on?

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Speaker 15: So?

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Speaker 22: To start, she never disputed the fact that she caused

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Speaker 22: her children's deaths, but Lee claimed she was driven to

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Speaker 22: insanity following her husband's death from cancer in November twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 22: so about seven months before it's believed the children were killed.

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Speaker 22: Her defense claimed she was suffering from delusions, being tormented

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Speaker 22: by voices, and wanted to die, but didn't want her

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Speaker 22: children to find her, all for them to live without

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Speaker 22: their parents, so they said she spontaneously decided to kill

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Speaker 22: her children during her own attempted suicide.

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Speaker 3: Sheap is, so the jury's verdict definitely means they didn't

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Speaker 3: believe she was insane at the time that this happened.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, so it was up to the defense to argue

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Speaker 22: the case for insanity, but as Justice Venning put it,

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Speaker 22: finding her guilty would essentially make that the insanity arguments irrelevant.

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Speaker 22: So the jury's verdict is in line with the crown's

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Speaker 22: forensic psychiatrist witness, doctor Eric Monasterio, who found that while

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Speaker 22: Lee was likely suffering from a depressive disorder and possibly

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Speaker 22: a prolonged grief disorder, there was no proof of any

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Speaker 22: psychotic elements required for that defense. So therefore he told

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Speaker 22: the jury he believed she didn't qualify, and that is

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Speaker 22: an opinion they clearly took on board and just to

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Speaker 22: continue that. The Crown argued Lee didn't want to be

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Speaker 22: a sole parent and murdered her children before fleeing to

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Speaker 22: Korea to start a new life under a new name.

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Speaker 22: They also argued she'd lied about how they died, and

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Speaker 22: she initially told her mum she never had children, then

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Speaker 22: telling then she told police when she was being extradited

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Speaker 22: from Korea she had left them in a New Zealand institution.

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Speaker 22: So despite the judge warning today that lies alone don't

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Speaker 22: infer guilt, it was, you know, clearly this alongside with

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Speaker 22: the Crown's other evidence that was convincing to the jury.

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Speaker 22: As you say, it only took them just over three

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Speaker 22: hours under four hours for them to reach their verdict

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Speaker 22: this afternoon. What happens next, So what we know is

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Speaker 22: that Lee is due to be sentenced in late November.

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Speaker 22: At the moment, it's penciled down for the twenty sixth,

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Speaker 22: So we'll wait till then to say.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for filling us in on that News Talk

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Speaker 3: SEB reporter Emily Ansel was in court for that helped

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Speaker 3: young Lee verdict. It is thirteen minutes after five. You're

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Speaker 3: There be five seventeen this evening another agree to disagree

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Speaker 3: moment for the coalition. New Zealand First doesn't like the

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Speaker 3: new skilled residency pathways announced today. Government says we need

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Speaker 3: them to attract and retain good migrant workers. Businesses need them.

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Speaker 3: They are thankful. Shane Jones, New Zealand First Deputy. How

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Speaker 3: do you like the sound of that, Shane?

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Speaker 23: Yeah, well it is invoking the agree to disagree, But

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Speaker 23: no one should be surprised.

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Speaker 3: No, because it's immigration. But you've come out and said

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Speaker 3: we take them in, we train them up, we upskill them,

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Speaker 3: we look after their families and then they emigrate. But

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Speaker 3: in this case that's not true at all. Is it.

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Speaker 23: An actual fact? Over the next three years we're likely

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Speaker 23: to see another seventy or eighty thousand people with a

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Speaker 23: pathway to residency that's accelerated and in short time. They

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Speaker 23: will become citizens. And the government statistician has already pointed

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Speaker 23: out earlier this year thirty percent of the people going

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Speaker 23: to Australia and then qualifying for residency and citizenship over there,

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Speaker 23: we're not born in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what's the proportion of foreign born New Zealander

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Speaker 3: is currently roughly the same, So it's proportional.

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Speaker 23: Righth No, no, it's not not, the statistician said. The

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Speaker 23: statistician said those of us who are native New Zealand

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Speaker 23: as born here represent a smaller percentage of those who

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Speaker 23: are fleeing New Zealand qualifying for Australian entitlements. Whilst we

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Speaker 23: train them, care for them, nurture them here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: But when shown we're not training them, they're coming here,

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Speaker 3: they're already skilled, they have qualifications, they need to have

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Speaker 3: had five years relevant experience, including at least two in

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Speaker 3: New Zealand.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and it's not so much that we're not acknowledging

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Speaker 23: that they're not already here. The portion that we differed

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Speaker 23: on is that those particular people they were able to

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Speaker 23: stay here, We were willing to extend their entitlements to

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Speaker 23: continue to work here. We just don't agree that we

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Speaker 23: should fast track their residency, uplift continue the folly that

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Speaker 23: Jacinda bought in.

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Speaker 24: Whereabout these are businesses, These are regional New zeaal ill

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Speaker 24: In businesses that you supposedly care about, who are crying

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Speaker 24: out and they're saying extending that on the whim of

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Speaker 24: a minister is not a lifestyle that these guys would tolerate,

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Speaker 24: and they'll bugger off and then the business is up

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Speaker 24: up at Strite Craig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: But the deeper problem that we've got to grapple with,

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Speaker 23: and it may prove to be that no government wants

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Speaker 23: to deal with it, is that we have something like

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Speaker 23: ninety thousand to one hundred thousand of these wretched young

868
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 23: needs from not working. We've got a track record since

869
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 23: twenty twenty, since two thousand and two, of continually trying

870
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 23: to solve this problem by relying upon immigration. There's nothing

871
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 23: wrong with New Zealand first drawing a line in the

872
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 23: sand and saying we need to take a hard line

873
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Speaker 23: and also have a harder line on the net ensuring it's.

874
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: Saying that's great. But as you said, and you've been

875
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 3: in three governments over that time period, that you've just identified.

876
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: No one has fixed the problem in the meantime, what

877
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 3: do you say to those businesses who need them?

878
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 23: Yeah, but those businesses have already got them. And I

879
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 23: say to the businesses, sure, I understand. I was the

880
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 23: chairman of Sea Lords. I thoroughly understand we're not economic Luodites.

881
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 23: But at what point do you stop fast trekking residency

882
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 23: changing the character of New Zealand's population, constantly pumping up

883
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 23: the tires of employers where we're not creating our own

884
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 23: kiwis to take these jobs. That's an existential challenge in

885
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 23: New Zealand. For this isn't title to highlight.

886
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 3: What about the two hundred thousand kiwis on the doll.

887
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 23: Well, don't get me started off that, you know, as

888
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 23: well as argue, much to the chagrin of Jasinda, I

889
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 23: was the guy who said get the nefs off the couch.

890
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 3: And we didn't, and we haven't and there's more of

891
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: them been added daily, you know what I mean.

892
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 23: Yeah, Look, there's a variety of ways how you can

893
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 23: pump an economy. Okay, you can massively expand immigration, which

894
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 23: is what Stephen Joyce and John Key did. But we're

895
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 23: just not up for that, up for the fact that

896
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Speaker 23: we are changing rapidly the character and the makeup of

897
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 23: our population without having gone campaign on it. Now I

898
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 23: accept that we've allowed the paper to go through the

899
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 23: policy in twenty twenty eight, it's going to be reviewed.

900
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 23: The Minister has the authority to put various occupations on

901
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 23: or off the green light.

902
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: But we are where we are.

903
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: Jane Jones, Deputy Leader of New Zealand first, disagreeing with

904
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: the coalition twenty two minutes after five news talks, they'd be.

905
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

906
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen DREI with one

907
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else news talks, there'd.

908
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: Be five twenty five. We'll get to your text in

909
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 3: just a second. Isn't the Trump tailand old Panadole thing hilarious?

910
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: I mean not funny as in serious, but just funny?

911
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: And what is going on? You know it's a bit funny.

912
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: Come on, just admitt it. Hey, pregnant woman, listen up

913
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 3: that baby. You know it's going to get autism if

914
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: you take paracetamol. Just what planet are we living on? Anyway?

915
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 3: Here's The thing that gets me about all of this

916
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 3: because I obviously think that this is BS. I don't

917
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: believe it. But everyone can believe whatever they like, right,

918
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: that's the world we live in. You listen to your experts, oh,

919
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: listen to mine. You can make up your own mind,

920
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: you can do your own research, all that sort of stuff.

921
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: But this is what annoys me. You have these medical

922
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: experts come out and say that panidole, paracetamol completely safe,

923
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: completely safe, you know, and the PM said that too

924
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 3: today said it was completely safe.

925
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 9: Haveless, parasnamol is safe. It's quite acceptable to be used

926
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Speaker 9: by pregnant women and others were dealing with fever. We're

927
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 9: very comfortable parasnamol being used in the way that it

928
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Speaker 9: has been as always, and I just encourage everybody if

929
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Speaker 9: you're concerned, check out the Ministry of Health website.

930
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Speaker 3: But it's completely safe, completely safe. Now that's not true,

931
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: technically technically not true. Right, No drug is completely safe.

932
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: Take one hundred, you'll probably pop a kidney. There is

933
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: a one in a million risks of some bad stuff

934
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: happening to you, so it's not completely safe. So, you know,

935
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Speaker 3: it just annoys me when people say this people who

936
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Speaker 3: are prone to conspiracy or mistrust that kind of thing,

937
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 3: listening to these little bits in these little moments, and

938
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 3: we knew this announcement from Trump was coming, So why

939
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: aren't people a little more careful? And I don't mean

940
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: to pick on Christopher Luxen specifically, Sandra can see you're

941
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: upset with me about that already, but I don't mean

942
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 3: to pick on particularly, but just you know, if there

943
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 3: are people who have particular views something like this comes along,

944
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna pounce. Twenty six after five Bryan Bridge share

945
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Speaker 3: of Breden.

946
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 23: This is the.

947
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: Potential next Reserve Bank Governor of New Zealand. She is

948
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: the deputy to a position at the Bank of England.

949
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 3: So how does she vote? Because they publish their minutes

950
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: and they tell you on their Monetary Policy Committee which

951
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 3: way people vote. So overall, hehr first vote was second

952
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: of November twenty twenty three, so I've been in the

953
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 3: role on the committee since twenty twenty three. Overall, she

954
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: voted eleven times to maintain interest rates, in five times

955
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Speaker 3: to reduce, voted to increase nill So there you go.

956
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 3: That's her voting record, and all of that depends held

957
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: their rate steady last week. The Bank of England, by

958
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: the way, worried about inflation. So the you go, she

959
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: is she's one more vote on her committee. I suppose,

960
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 3: isn't she And she may not even be. We will

961
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Speaker 3: have to wait talk tomorrow, of course, have to wait

962
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Speaker 3: till tomorrow. This is just a Bloomberg report at this stage.

963
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Speaker 3: Five twenty seven News Talk zaid B. We'll look at

964
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: CCTV and how You Catch a Thief? After five thirty

965
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: News News Talks EDB.

966
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Speaker 1: Today's newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on hither

967
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Speaker 1: dupisy Ellen, Drive with One New Zealand and the power

968
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: of satellite Mobile News Talk SIBB.

969
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Speaker 19: Back Savity and.

970
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 4: Jursue.

971
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Speaker 3: Twenty five away from six News Talks, sib we'll talk

972
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 3: to business their reaction to Brook, Ben Velden, her take

973
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: on the are holiday Zach the big changes to employment

974
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: relations the holiday Zach changes, I should say, which have

975
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 3: come in will be coming in over the next few

976
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Speaker 3: years and will take years more than that to actually

977
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 3: take effect. And for teachers, if you look at the details,

978
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Speaker 3: teachers won't actually notice any change from the announcement they've

979
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 3: done today for another six years. At least because they

980
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: need to update their payroll systems. Kind of thought of

981
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Speaker 3: nov Pay today. I remember noverpay. They had to bring

982
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 3: old Stephen Joyce and mister fix It to fix all

983
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 3: that up. Anyway, we will talk about that up to

984
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: six this evening. It is twenty five to two right now.

985
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: Are we too late on the Palestine question? That is

986
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: the question this evening. Winston Peters over at the UN

987
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: continues to be tight lipped over whether or not we

988
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 3: will recognize a Palestinian state this week. Have a listen.

989
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 16: Look, we've been waiting eighty long years for an answer.

990
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 16: Here in a few days finding out all the facts,

991
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 16: it will not be wasted.

992
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: The French are the latest to recognize. Doctor Omar Abadallah

993
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 3: is the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the State

994
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: of Palestine and joins me this evening.

995
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 25: Good evening, good evening, and thank you for hosting me

996
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 25: call the best for you for our friends in New Zealand,

997
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 25: thank you.

998
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 3: Have you noticed is it being noticed that New Zealand

999
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: isn't hasn't yet made a decision, or isn't recognizing a

1000
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: Palestinian state?

1001
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 25: I I maybe I can't reformulate the issue that the

1002
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 25: New Zealand is thinking of recognizing the State of Palestine,

1003
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 25: but they are looking for the right time, the right

1004
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 25: moment for the New Zealand people and leadership to do

1005
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 25: that bold decision.

1006
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 3: Have you spoken Love maybe, Have you had any word

1007
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 3: from our Ministry of Foreign Affairs? Have they signaled anything

1008
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: about what they might be doing?

1009
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 25: We had, we had, we had an open discussion with

1010
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 25: the Foreign Ministry and with the leadership about the recognition

1011
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 25: and the importance of New Zealand to recognize the State

1012
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 25: of Palestine and to join the countries, the principal countries

1013
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 25: that New Zealand is part of the international community, and

1014
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 25: to take that decision towards recognizing the State of Palestine

1015
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 25: as an investment in peace, and not to delay or

1016
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 25: postpone this decision, which will be taken as an encouragement

1017
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 25: to the Israeli policies, the illegal Israeli policies against the

1018
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 25: Palestinian people in Palestine.

1019
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: What exactly is being recognized by these states? And I

1020
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: noticed there are a lot of caveats, particularly on the

1021
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: Canadian recognition. You know, there needs to be elections, there

1022
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 3: needs to be all all this sort of stuff needs

1023
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 3: to happen. First, So what is actually being recognized.

1024
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 25: No, Actually, actually, when you recognize, you recognize the legal,

1025
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 25: the moral, the natural right of the Palestinian people to

1026
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 25: self determination. You recognize the people. You recognize the territory

1027
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 25: on which the people are exercising or should exercise their

1028
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 25: right to save determination. You recognize the government, the representatives

1029
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 25: of this state, which is the p and O, the

1030
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 25: sole representative of the Palestinian people, the legitimate representative of

1031
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 25: the Palestinian people. You recognize the struggle, You recognize the ideas,

1032
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 25: the principles upon which those people are acting, including the

1033
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 25: Palestinian people, who are consistent in using the international law

1034
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 25: and calling for the international community to be committed to

1035
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 25: international law and to the international legitimacy. So this is

1036
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 25: what the states already recognized. They recognized the suffering of

1037
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 25: the Palestinian people since seventy seven years They recognized that

1038
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 25: this step should be taken seventy seven years ago when

1039
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 25: the Yuan divided Palestine into two one already there, but

1040
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 25: the other state now is still being recognized by some

1041
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 25: players and the actors and international actors. This is what

1042
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 25: they are recognizing. The recognized the right of people to exist.

1043
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 25: What about the hostages, the hostages and prisoners was was

1044
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 25: one of the points on which the New York Declaration

1045
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 25: about the Conference on the Peaceful Settlements of the Question

1046
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 25: of Palestine and the implementation of the two Still Solution.

1047
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 25: And it was clear that this conference and this endeavor

1048
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Speaker 25: should start by a seas fire, permanent, permanent and lasting

1049
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 25: seas fire, where Israel stop its aggression against the Palestinian people,

1050
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 25: where the release of hostages and prisoners should take immediately.

1051
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: Definitely is just I'm interested from a Palestinian authority point

1052
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: of view, is a Palestinian state possible with Hamas in existence?

1053
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 3: If their goal is to wipe Israel of the face

1054
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 3: of the planet, You know, is there those can those

1055
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Speaker 3: things coexist?

1056
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 25: I think using this cote will mislead so many of

1057
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Speaker 25: your audiences. The State of Palestine recognized Israel in nineteen

1058
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Speaker 25: ninety three, but Israel yet not recognizing the State of Palestine,

1059
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Speaker 25: by the way, and they still committing genocide against the

1060
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 25: Palestinian people, and they are threatening the existence of the

1061
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 25: Palestinian people. The Palestinian people are now under threat of

1062
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 25: existence by the Israeli occupying forces and setular terrorism in

1063
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Speaker 25: the Kubat Parasilian territory. So the state of Palestine is

1064
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 25: about the people of the State of Palestine. It's not

1065
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 25: about one party here or one movement here or one

1066
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 25: movement there. It's about the ideology upon which the Palestinian

1067
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 25: people are acting, who are preserving the two state solution,

1068
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 25: while we have officialist government, Israeli government that's trying to

1069
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 25: inaliate the Palestinian people or possibly did transfer them out,

1070
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 25: and they speak about this clearly plantly in front of

1071
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 25: all of others on the TV, that they are dehumanizing.

1072
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: The Palestinian people.

1073
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, course here is not.

1074
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 25: Yes, this is about the states of Palestine and it's

1075
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 25: legitimate leadership, which is the PLO. And this is what

1076
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 25: the States already recognized, recognized the peace camp in Palestine.

1077
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 25: By the way, these states, they did not recognize any

1078
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Speaker 25: movement or any party in Palestine. They recognized all the

1079
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 25: Palestinian people.

1080
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Speaker 3: Understand, doctor Oma. I really appreciate your time and for

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Speaker 3: coming on the program as we wipe this decision from

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Speaker 3: our foreign minister. Thank you very much for your time.

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Speaker 25: You very much, thank you very much for the best.

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Speaker 25: I'm looking forward to working with you.

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Speaker 3: At doctor Omar Awadella, who's the Deputy Minister of Foreign

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Speaker 3: Affairs of the State of Palestine. It is eighteen minutes

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty. Find your

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Speaker 3: Right, Let's get to the heart of tonight. Bridget Morton,

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Speaker 3: lawyer at Frank's Ogilvy, is with us. Bridget, good evening

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Speaker 3: to you. Good evening, Rob Campbell on the phone, Aut Chancellor,

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Speaker 3: former Health endz in chair Rob, good evening, Good to

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Speaker 3: have you both here. What it we'll start with? We

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Speaker 3: might as well start here very quickly. Quick word your thoughts, Bridget.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that Winston will go ahead and follow

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Speaker 3: France in the UK and everyone else or will we

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Speaker 3: go out on our own?

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Speaker 21: I think he will follow them. I think ultimately there'll

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Speaker 21: be a lot of caveats because Winston is well aware

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Speaker 21: of the foreign fears implications and didmitic indications of recognizing

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Speaker 21: the state of Palestine. But ultimately we want to be

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Speaker 21: seen as working alongside our allies.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Rob forgive me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not going to start a habit of it,

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Speaker 2: but I agree with bridgide On that that's what I

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Speaker 2: think you will do.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey, New Zealand, first, bridget invoking they agreed to disagree,

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Speaker 3: big deal, all just elections coming in. It's immigration. So

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Speaker 3: they pull the lever.

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Speaker 21: Well, I think it was in a number of immigration

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Speaker 21: announcements over the last six months, all aimed at getting

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Speaker 21: more skilled and people here and more investment on our shores. Ultimately,

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Speaker 21: Sin he's in the first They know that there's the

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Speaker 21: portion of their voters that don't agree with a large

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Speaker 21: immigration push. So ultimately they were going to push back

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Speaker 21: on something, and I think this.

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Speaker 2: Is the thing that was to do so, rob Do.

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Speaker 3: You had Shane Jones on earlier and he's saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: the immigration, sort of unfettered immigration changing the demographics of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand, and it's a sort of changing the nature

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Speaker 3: of New Zealand. Is it a bad thing?

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Speaker 2: Well? I mean Shane shouts at his dogs. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: use one of the traditional dog warsle study. He makes

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Speaker 2: it pretty clear what their real thoughts are. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think, frankly, the word racist is what comes to

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Speaker 2: my mind when I hear him ing about it. I

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Speaker 2: think he's out of tune with the vast majority of

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Speaker 2: people in the country. Look, they're trickling out these announcements

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Speaker 2: on migration. I think this one's frankly pretty trivial. Who

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Speaker 2: knew that we were short of high expertise and jewelry

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Speaker 2: and hair dressing. That was a bit of a surprise

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Speaker 2: to me that it was a problem holding back the economy.

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Speaker 2: So frankly, ident think this one makes an awful lot

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Speaker 2: of difference. But yeah, it's a bit of election here

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Speaker 2: in Bungezeland.

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Speaker 3: First, government's changes to the Holidays Act bridget it looks

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Speaker 3: like it's pretty balanced, and to be fair to Brook

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Speaker 3: van Velden, it's the bloody hard jobs try and clean

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Speaker 3: that mess up.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean, I mean success. The governments have made

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Speaker 21: promises to clean up the Holidays Act because the miscalculations

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Speaker 21: and the burden we've had from underpay and then had

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Speaker 21: to repay people back is just extraordinary. This system is

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Speaker 21: very simple to understand. I think employees around the country

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Speaker 21: will be celebrating that, and I do think it actually

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Speaker 21: does make it fear for our part time workers and

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Speaker 21: the whole because it does recognize the fact that they

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Speaker 21: don't need as much sickly because they're not working the

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Speaker 21: same number of death as a full time worker. But

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Speaker 21: it also recognizes that they should get loading when they're

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Speaker 21: not necessarily going to get them in any other way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, true, Rob and Bridget will be back on the

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Speaker 3: huddle in just a few seconds.

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Speaker 1: News Talk said, be the Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's

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Speaker 1: International Realty the global leader in luxury real estate twelve

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Speaker 1: to six.

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Speaker 3: Bridget Morton and Rob Campbell on the Huddle tonight, Rob

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Speaker 3: Trump and the autism research thing, what do you say

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Speaker 3: to all of that, and what do you say to

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Speaker 3: people who believe it or who think, you know, start

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Speaker 3: to worry that maybe there is a link.

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Speaker 2: Well, it would be very unfortunate if that was the case.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's much better this than intermect and

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Speaker 2: to solve COVID myself. So it really is quite nutty stuff,

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Speaker 2: and the less attention is given the better. But I

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Speaker 2: don't want I don't want to let this go. I'm

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Speaker 2: afraid this news to the Whole Day's Act does not

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Speaker 2: put a loading on part time worker, puts a loading

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Speaker 2: on casual work. The part time workers have lost as

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Speaker 2: a result of this. They get fully proportional holiday leave

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Speaker 2: right now. If you're not, you get whole. They leave

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Speaker 2: on the days you would have worked for the hours

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Speaker 2: you would have worked. Who was purely proportional before, And

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Speaker 2: this takes rights away from part time workers, So it

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Speaker 2: does hurt a number of people, a large number of

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Speaker 2: people who are amongst the most vulnerable people in our workforce.

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Speaker 2: So I can't let Bridget get away with misportraying that.

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Speaker 2: But on the autism thing, honestly, something Trump says just

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Speaker 2: deserve to be treated with a derision or ignored.

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Speaker 3: So sorry, can you come back to that, Rob, What

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Speaker 3: are you saying about casual workers? How are they worse off?

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Speaker 2: Casual workers are not worse off under this change that

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Speaker 2: they have had a small extra loading put on. But

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Speaker 2: a casual worker is someone who doesn't have any clicked hours.

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Speaker 2: A part time worker who works a certain number of

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Speaker 2: days a week or a certain number of hours in

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Speaker 2: the day will be worse off onto this because they

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Speaker 2: only get paid in proportion to the ours. It's purely proportional.

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Speaker 2: Now what they get. The idea that part time workers

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Speaker 2: get extra sickly at the moment is just not right.

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Speaker 2: If you fall stick on a day you don't work.

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Speaker 2: You don't get leave. If you're a part timer, you

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Speaker 2: only get paid for the days that you are actually

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Speaker 2: normally rosted to work, and you only get paid for

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Speaker 2: the hours you normally do, which is purely proportional to

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Speaker 2: what they do.

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Speaker 3: This takes the step back, bridget Do you want to

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Speaker 3: comment on Trump or do we move on?

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Speaker 21: I just think I feel for those parents out there that,

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Speaker 21: you know, a feeling, you know, did I do something

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Speaker 21: wrong or questioning what they have done, because they've got

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Speaker 21: children that with autism, and for them, you know, is

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Speaker 21: going to be a bunch of people. They're going to

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Speaker 21: see Trump is a validation of their conservacive views, and

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Speaker 21: that's really fine.

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Speaker 3: Then, Sir Don McKinnon. Everybody's scratching around the back of

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Speaker 3: a sofa for an idea to give this economy a

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Speaker 3: bit of a tickle up. And so Don McKinnon says

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Speaker 3: we should host of Commonwealth Games. What do we think Rob.

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Speaker 2: Don woke up from the slumber one afternoon and thought

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Speaker 2: he was still Secretary General of the Commonwealth or something.

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Speaker 14: You know, the.

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Speaker 2: Commonwealth Games is a pretty low grade thing anyway, There's

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Speaker 2: no great attraction in doing it. There's very little evidence

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Speaker 2: that these big sports events actually do trigger any amount

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Speaker 2: of economic growth, certainly not sustained economic growth. So unless

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Speaker 2: Don's actually it was half asleep and woke up thinking

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Speaker 2: he was still Secretary of General, He's just wrong about it.

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Speaker 2: It's just a silly idea and again doesn't deserve any space.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, no to the Commonwealth Games from Rob Bridget

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Speaker 3: anything positive to say about the common Games.

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Speaker 21: Oh look, I applaud him for, you know, having throwing

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Speaker 21: a positive idea in there. But I think at Rob's

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Speaker 21: that's it be right that the numbers just don't add

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Speaker 21: up in the Cold Wealth Game. That's why Victoria is

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Speaker 21: pulled out of it. But I do disagree to Rob though,

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Speaker 21: that these big sporting events don't bring economic game. We're

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Speaker 21: actually for some great events coming to New Zealand in

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Speaker 21: the next couple of years which will actually, you know,

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Speaker 21: really help particularly in our region. So in the world

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Speaker 21: I'm a main Chenpionship in Taupo or Trayson and World

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Speaker 21: Championships and Tottonger Post. Those are great events that are

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Speaker 21: really going to boost those of economies without building giant

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Speaker 21: athletes soladiers.

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Speaker 3: What about the America's Cup. We already had that most

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Speaker 3: of the infrastructure here. You know, we said no to

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Speaker 3: that Rugby World Cup. Can we get that batch? You know,

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Speaker 3: we'll leave it there. Guys, Bridget Morton a Rob Campbell

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Speaker 3: on the huddle tonight it is eight to six News Talk,

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Speaker 3: said b.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 3: Five to six on News Talk seed B. Right, this

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Speaker 3: is an interesting text from one of our listeners this afternoon. Ryan,

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Speaker 3: I had a great member of staff from Ireland. He

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Speaker 3: couldn't get his visa extended. Which remember that's what Shane

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Speaker 3: Jones says. New Zealand First was offering. They were offering

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Speaker 3: instead of giving you residents. You know, if you've been

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Speaker 3: here five well, if you have five years work experienced,

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Speaker 3: two of which are in New Zealand, and you earn

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Speaker 3: more than thirty six bucks an hour and the company

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Speaker 3: wants you to stay, you know you you're a valued

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Speaker 3: skilled person. New Zealand First was saying we'll check an

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Speaker 3: extra three years on your visa so you can stay,

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Speaker 3: and the government saying no, we'll give you residents because

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Speaker 3: otherwise you will go to Australia, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 3: this text says. Ryan great member of staff Irish, couldn't

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Speaker 3: get his visa extended, left now living in Australia, had

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Speaker 3: a law degree from Ireland, a nice guy, but gave

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Speaker 3: up on immigration New Zealand and crossed the ditch. A

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Speaker 3: lot of people saying Ryan Rob Campbell, who was in

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Speaker 3: the huddle a little early, was very negative. Negative. Now,

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Speaker 3: he says, vowel as miserable as the weather. Well, weathers lovely.

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Speaker 2: Uts.

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Speaker 3: I've just had a look outside for the first time

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Speaker 3: this afternoon and looks fine.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: Where are you? Ryan Rob has no idea about sick

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Speaker 3: leave entitlements, says Dave part time has get a disproportionate

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Speaker 3: amount compared to their full time equivalence. That's certainly what

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Speaker 3: we've been hearing from business this afternoon. We will hear

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Speaker 3: more after six. We will check in with them. Yeah. Look,

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Speaker 3: it's it's been a hell of an hour, hasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Autism Trump, I mean you name it, We've done Palestine immigration,

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Speaker 3: someone got called a racist. What more do you want? Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's got We've been there and came, We've been everywhere.

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Speaker 3: It is coming up to four minutes away from sexyer.

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Speaker 3: On News Talks the B we'll get the business reaction

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Speaker 3: to those changes from Brook van Valden.

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Speaker 1: Next, what's down one with the major cause and how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the economy? The big business questions on

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and mass for Insurance

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Speaker 1: Investments and Kiwi Saber you're a good hands Talk eveny.

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Speaker 3: Just gone seven after six on News Talk t B.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, Jamie McKay has real news for us the

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Speaker 3: Privacy Commissioner on the CCTV. From your shop if you're

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Speaker 3: trying to catch a shoplift to watch out. There's a

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Speaker 3: warning for you. And we'll get to Indebrady in the UK.

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Speaker 4: Before top of the r Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: Businesses across the country welcoming the end of the Holidays Act.

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Speaker 3: It's going in the bin. Government unveiling what they call

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Speaker 3: a fast, simpler streamline replacement. Employers say the current system

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Speaker 3: lead to costly payroll errors, millions in payback in some cases.

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Speaker 3: Paul McKay is a Business New Zealand employment specialist with

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Speaker 3: me on the line, Paul, good evening, good evening, He

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Speaker 3: are you good? Thank you? Can we just clear something

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Speaker 3: up first of all about part time workers, because we've

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Speaker 3: had two points of view on this, this evening part

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Speaker 3: time workers in sick leave before and after this change

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Speaker 3: as it's as it's proposed, Are they better or worse off?

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Speaker 26: Well, they're proportionately the same because under the old system

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Speaker 26: they were advantaged by the fact that they've got to

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Speaker 26: ten days leave entitlement. If they were only a one

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Speaker 26: day week a worker, then they would actually have the

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Speaker 26: ability to take ten weeks of leave off as opposed

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Speaker 26: to the LUs of you and I who would probably

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Speaker 26: get ten days, which was probably about two weeks worth.

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Speaker 26: But proatering it the way it's going to be happening

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Speaker 26: will mean that it will be proportionately the same for

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Speaker 26: absolutely everybody.

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Speaker 3: So you get off, you basically get out what you

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Speaker 3: put in kind of things.

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Speaker 26: That's the idious and what about learn you leave based

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Speaker 26: on ours and depending on the number of hours you work.

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Speaker 2: There's about the leader get.

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Speaker 3: And it will start accruing. This is for sick leave

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Speaker 3: and for annually a whole bunch of other stuff will

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Speaker 3: start occurring earlier from the day that you actually start working,

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Speaker 3: rather than having cowed six months or twelve months. Will

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Speaker 3: that cost business and do you know how much.

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Speaker 26: Well, it won't cost in the sense that it's it's accruing.

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Speaker 26: It has always been the case, except that the way

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Speaker 26: it was taken in terms of entitlements meant there was

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Speaker 26: a lot of other rules. We're simplifying. We the government

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Speaker 26: are simplified by saying your crew leave or you earn

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Speaker 26: leave as you go, and it's just simply effectively money

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Speaker 26: in your bank and you will take out from that

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Speaker 26: bank of leave when you want it, and that's the balance,

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Speaker 26: that's what's left. So there's no kind of an a

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Speaker 26: a lot more simplicity attached to this.

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Speaker 3: Why did it get so complicated, Well.

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Speaker 26: Let's go back to nineteen forty four when the Holidays

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Speaker 26: Act was first started. We had a very different working

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Speaker 26: environment and basically it was Monday to Friday if that.

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Speaker 26: Now we have a vast array of very complex working

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Speaker 26: arrangements and the Act based on the week's approach just

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Speaker 26: simply doesn't cope.

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Speaker 3: So from here we've got the legislation as to go

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Speaker 3: through the House. That's going to take a couple of

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Speaker 3: years and then it'll be well a couple of years

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Speaker 3: after that before we actually see change.

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Speaker 26: We're being a bit pestimistic, and when it gets into

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Speaker 26: the house, we're hoping that it will be in the

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Speaker 26: house by the end of the year or this by

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Speaker 26: the end of the term. But yes, two years after

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Speaker 26: that before it's finally effective, because there's still it's not

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Speaker 26: just the rules, it's about putting the rules in place

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Speaker 26: inside the computers that do the calculations, and the payroll

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Speaker 26: people that need to be trained. All of that needs

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Speaker 26: to be done well as well.

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Speaker 3: Is there anything changing to public to holiday public holiday pay?

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Speaker 26: You know?

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Speaker 3: Is that and will it make it more expensive or

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Speaker 3: would it make it more expensive to stay open on

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Speaker 3: public holidays?

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Speaker 26: Potentially, not necessarily, because basically it's going to be the

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Speaker 26: same calculation for every form of leave, that reducing the

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Speaker 26: current crop of calculations for all different sorts of leave down.

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Speaker 26: There may be the occasional time when, especially when people

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Speaker 26: have uncertain hours or variable hours or casual where there

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Speaker 26: has to be some extra caution done in terms of

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Speaker 26: what ours have been done with what people have earned.

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Speaker 26: But in general and overall, we see this as being

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Speaker 26: far simpler and more cost effective.

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Speaker 3: Drive Jamie Kai's with us host of the Country, Jamie.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Good evening, Ryan. So we've got a bit

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Speaker 3: of drama going on with Alliance. This is the meat processor. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: in fact, the.

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Speaker 27: World's biggest sheep meat process, so you might remember Dawn

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Speaker 27: meets the Sirish Meat Company has struck a deal. They're

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Speaker 27: going to take a sixty five percent steak in the

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Speaker 27: process for two hundred and fifty million dollars and it

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Speaker 27: looks like it's the best of some other worse options,

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Speaker 27: to be perfectly honest, because it is one hundred percent

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Speaker 27: farmer owned cooperative and a lot of the farmers wanted

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Speaker 27: to keep it that way, but they've just run out

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Speaker 27: of rope, so they've basically got to get get a

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Speaker 27: deal done so they can poe back two hundred million

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Speaker 27: dollars of its working capital facilities, or the banks could

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Speaker 27: shut them down. However, some well held and high profiles

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Speaker 27: Southland farmers have made a large, last ditch effort to

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Speaker 27: recapitalize the company themselves. Now, they tried to do that

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Speaker 27: last year. It didn't work. But these farmers are saying, look,

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Speaker 27: farm sheep farmings and a lot better nick than it

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Speaker 27: was this time a year ago. And to chuck some

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Speaker 27: numbers at that Ryan, this time a year ago the

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Speaker 27: average profit on a sheep farm was nineteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 27: Forty percent of the farms ran at a loss. In

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Speaker 27: the coming season, they're predicting the average farm profit to

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Speaker 27: be one hundred sixty six thousand, five hundred. So these

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Speaker 27: five large scale farmers, they've written to the board, they've

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Speaker 27: written to the bank. They want to revisit this. But

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Speaker 27: the Alliance Group chair Mark Winn, used to be the

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Speaker 27: chief executive of Balance Aggre Nutrients, a reasonably qualified sort

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Speaker 27: of business operator in the commercial world, has said, look,

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Speaker 27: he's all but shut down the idea. He says, they're

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Speaker 27: just giving the farmer shareholders false hope. So these guys

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Speaker 27: will have to vote. I think it's October the twentieth.

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Speaker 27: They're not going to have much mind of much time,

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Speaker 27: should I say, to make up their mind on an

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Speaker 27: alternative proposal, But one is going to be out there.

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Speaker 3: And they're running up against that deadline, and it's coming

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Speaker 3: up pretty soon, isn't it? As you say to read?

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Speaker 27: Perhaps absolutely, And just interestingly, Mark winn is saying that

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Speaker 27: if the vote fails, this is the October twenty vote.

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Speaker 27: He said Dawn Meets could purchase the Alliance Group in

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Speaker 27: an insolvency process. He says that's the most probable outcome.

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Speaker 27: And if that was the case, Ryan, they may not

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Speaker 27: need to pay two hundred and fifty million dollars. They

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Speaker 27: could get it at a fire soil price.

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Speaker 3: Does not sound like a good outcome at all. Do

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Speaker 3: we need to brush off the cobwebs for Sir Dave Dobbin?

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Speaker 27: Well, I don't know. I think farmers here in New

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Speaker 27: Zealand are doing considerably better than their US counterparts. It

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Speaker 27: was just interestingly story I picked up on Ryan. I

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Speaker 27: know you're a keen music fan. So last Saturday in

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Speaker 27: the US they had farm Aid farm Aid forty a

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Speaker 27: bit like live Age. You might remember in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 27: five we had Live Aid Wembley Stadium and Philadelphia Stadium,

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Speaker 27: or not long after that they had farm Aid because

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Speaker 27: Bob Dylan was quoted, some would say incorrectly as at

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Speaker 27: the time of saying, look, we're worried about the people

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Speaker 27: in Africa, what about our own farmers, because in nineteen

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Speaker 27: eighty five crop prices were crashing, bank foreclosures were wiping

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Speaker 27: out family farms at alarming rates and pushing farmer suicides

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Speaker 27: to record levels. So they got together in September of

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Speaker 27: nineteen eighty five. And it's interesting that Willie Nelson, Neil Young,

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Speaker 27: Bob Dylan, John Mellen camp I can't remember whether he

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Speaker 27: was a cougar or not at the time. Ryan, they

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Speaker 27: were in the original cast in nineteen eighty five. They

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Speaker 27: came back again for farm Aid last weekend. Over the

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Speaker 27: forty years they've raised something like eighty five million, nine

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Speaker 27: million in the first year. And you look back to

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Speaker 27: the playlist or the people who turned up in nineteen

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Speaker 27: eighty five for farm Aid, Foreigner, Chris Christopherson, Bonnie Rait,

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Speaker 27: Roy Orbison, Billy Joel, Tom Petty, the Beach Boys, Emmy

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Speaker 27: Lou Harris, Glenn Campbell, to stop me Ryan, because they

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Speaker 27: really got in behind this, and with the exception of

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Speaker 27: one or two years, we've had a farm aid concert

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Speaker 27: every year since.

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Speaker 3: All right, I will stop you there. Actually Jamie Jamie

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Speaker 3: McKay hosted The Country. He good to have you on

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Speaker 3: the show nineteen minutes after six now at TV and Z.

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Speaker 3: You might remember it was reviewing its news to see

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Speaker 3: whether it was biased. Well, Shane Curry at The Herald

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Speaker 3: has got his hands on a report which has found

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Speaker 3: this is an independent review and it's identified, according to

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Speaker 3: Shane Curry, minor technical editorial issues which are worthy of

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Speaker 3: further discussion, but no major evidence, no evidence of major

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Speaker 3: systemic bias or lack of impartiality in one news reporting.

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Speaker 3: This is according to a summary of the report that

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Speaker 3: Shane Curry is publishing in his media inside a time

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Speaker 3: as nineteen a half to six now staying with television,

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Speaker 3: the boss of Netflix. He might be one of the

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Speaker 3: last people on Earth, actually at least powerful people on Earth.

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Speaker 3: Allies of Megan Markle remember that she and Harry had

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Speaker 3: this huge deal with the streaming giant, apparently worth more

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Speaker 3: than one hundred million US dollars, and everyone was like,

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Speaker 3: what what for. Anyway, they recently faced a major downgrade

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Speaker 3: apparently all the we don't know by how much, we

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Speaker 3: don't know what they're currently being paid. Despite that, the

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Speaker 3: CEO of Netflix, guy by the name of Ted Sarandos. Sarandos,

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Speaker 3: I should say, he's appeared on the Aspire with Emma

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Speaker 3: Greed and this is a podcast and had nothing but

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Speaker 3: praise for her.

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Speaker 28: One thing we learned earlier with Megan she has a

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Speaker 28: remarkable influence, remarkable, remarkable. So when we did the documentary

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Speaker 28: on her and Harry, when we ran the trailer announcing it,

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Speaker 28: people hundreds of people break broke down.

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Speaker 3: Every frame of the trailer didn't stop there did.

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Speaker 4: It was also one of the most watched documentaries we've

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Speaker 4: were read.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 28: So it was very it was successful in every measure.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. So because you've always wondered with Netflix, you

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Speaker 3: don't see how does it rank, you know, by views,

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Speaker 3: what's the most popular? Clearly she's rating and do you

1505
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: know what I have to say? This is her She's

1506
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 3: got a cooking show on there, and I just have

1507
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 3: to admit this as the guilty pleasure. No, not a pleasure.

1508
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 3: That's wrong, it's wrong. Word just a guilty thing I

1509
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 3: do is sit there and mindlessly watch Meghan mircael paint

1510
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 3: and do arts and crafts, and you know, burn apples

1511
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 3: in her oven. And that's it's I don't know why.

1512
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about it, but it's

1513
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 3: so mindless and simple and comforting. Sounds too nice. There's

1514
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 3: just nothing to it. It's sort of nice food. They're

1515
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 3: good guests and you don't have to think too hard.

1516
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,680
Speaker 3: So anyway, am I a Megan Michael I suppose that

1517
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 3: makes me a Megan Michael fan. There you go, one

1518
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 3: of the apparently hundreds of millions watching the show twenty

1519
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 3: one after six.

1520
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you

1521
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: your business hour with Ryan Bridge and mass for insurance

1522
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 1: investments and hya you're in good hands, News talks.

1523
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 3: B coming up on news Talks Big, what not to

1524
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: do with your CCTV footage, if you are burglarized, if

1525
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 3: you are someone thieving from your shop, if you're a

1526
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 3: shop owner. According to the Privacy Commissioner Michael Webster, that's

1527
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 3: afternoons six thirty now twenty four.

1528
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 4: After show bears.

1529
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: Even a long time ago in a galaxy far far away,

1530
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 3: you couldn't escape more Star Wars. The blockbuster franchises returning

1531
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 3: to the big screen after six years with no movies.

1532
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 3: Can you believe it's been that long? This time, they're

1533
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 3: bringing their Disney Plus hit TV show The Mandalorian to cinemas.

1534
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 4: Good question, good shot.

1535
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 3: Yes, In case you were wondering, In case you didn't

1536
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 3: get that, that is the show that has the baby

1537
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 3: Yoda in it. The Mandalorian and Gralgou released its first

1538
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: trailer today. Fans could not be more furious. Apparently they're

1539
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 3: upset at Disney Well for a number of reasons at

1540
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 3: the moment, top of mine being the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel.

1541
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 3: Fellow Walk Show host John Oliver even called for fans

1542
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 3: to boycott Disney Plus in response to this. The fans

1543
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: who aren't super upset with Disney over Kimmel still had

1544
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: something to complain about, though. They just think the movie

1545
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: doesn't look very good.

1546
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 18: Well, I can see why that's not actually trending very high.

1547
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 8: I think there's a couple of reasons, but that was

1548
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 8: such a I was like, that's plays more like an

1549
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 8: industry clipperal than it does like a trailer.

1550
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 23: To get you all excited.

1551
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: All right, it comes out May twenty second for anyone

1552
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: who's interested. Twenty six minutes after six and your news Talk,

1553
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 3: said B I was going to tell you about the rapture.

1554
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 3: Maybe I'll wait till the very end of the program,

1555
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: because I don't want to ruin your day. But the rapture,

1556
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,640
Speaker 3: according to the Internet, is coming, and it's well, I

1557
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 3: mean it raptures. None of them are good, are they?

1558
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: So this one, this one no exception. It's just funny

1559
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 3: how a little thing happens on the Internet and then

1560
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 3: the Internet decides to I don't know, copy paste and

1561
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 3: then read the word and funny things can come of it.

1562
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 3: And funny things have come of this one.

1563
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: So we'll talk.

1564
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 3: We'll look at that. Just before seven o'clock this evening,

1565
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: we're thinking to Enda Brady, who's over in the UK.

1566
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 3: Are UK europe correspondent, Everyone, every man and his dog

1567
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: recognizing Palestine? Although, as we said earlier, are they actually

1568
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 3: recognizing Palestine or are they not recognizing Palestine? Because there

1569
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 3: are so many caveats in front of what they're doing. Yeah,

1570
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 3: I think I said on Monday. In fact, I did

1571
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,560
Speaker 3: say on Monday that I don't think we will recognize Palestine.

1572
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 3: But if we do recognize Palestine with caveat ABCD, then

1573
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 3: am I still right?

1574
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1575
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 3: If you've got caveats up the wazu, then can you

1576
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 3: say you're recognizing something that one doesn't exist and two

1577
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 3: the authority you're claiming is in charge actually has no

1578
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 3: authority over the territory. You know what I'm saying. It

1579
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 3: is twenty seven after six News Talks hed B. We'll

1580
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 3: get to the Privacy Commissioner, after news.

1581
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

1582
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and Mass for

1583
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 1: Insurance Investments and Kiwi Saber, you're in good hands.

1584
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: News Talks d B, twenty five away from the seven

1585
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 3: you're on News Talks ed B. And I was reading

1586
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 3: sometimes you just have to stop and think, jeez, we're

1587
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 3: lucky to live where we live in news and I

1588
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: know we've got a lot to moan about, a lot

1589
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 3: to complain about, and we do that every day, but

1590
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,560
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to think we are lucky. And I

1591
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: was thinking about this morning as I was reading a story.

1592
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: This was from BBC. It was about a woman in

1593
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: Ukraine who's her and her mum owner flat together. And

1594
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 3: you know when you get insurance and it's there's all

1595
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 3: the clauses up there of the wazoo that say except

1596
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 3: if there's an act of God or an act of war,

1597
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,320
Speaker 3: or you know, there's all these kind of clauses well

1598
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 3: over in Ukraine. Because the Russians obviously been bombing and

1599
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 3: been bombing for years now, you can actually take out

1600
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: insurance for an act of war, like global conflict insurance.

1601
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 3: This woman happened to have taken out in such insurance

1602
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 3: for her mother was paying an annual premium of fifty

1603
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: two dollars US fifty two dollars a year, and just

1604
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 3: so happens, her mum, thankfully, she was okay. This happened

1605
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 3: last November, not injured, but the tower block that she

1606
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,640
Speaker 3: lives in on the outskirts of Kiev was bombed by

1607
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 3: the Russians. Thank goodness, she had insurance. She was actually able.

1608
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 3: She's okay, so that's fine, she's actually able to get

1609
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,919
Speaker 3: a payout. So she was paid out from the insurer

1610
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars to help cover with the repairs, which

1611
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 3: went a long way to fixing it up in Outskirts

1612
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 3: a Kiev there go, So just be grateful for where

1613
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 3: we're living and that there aren't missiles dropping out of

1614
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 3: the sky frair away from seven Rich God. A warning

1615
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: for retailers that want to publicly shame apparent shoplifter's emphasis

1616
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 3: on a parent, The Privacy Commissioner says business is Posting

1617
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 3: CCTV video and images of a crime on social media

1618
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 3: can cause real harm and potentially potentially be breaking the law.

1619
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 3: So the message is simple, from them, report it to police,

1620
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: leave it at that. Basically, Michael Webbs does the Privacy

1621
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 3: Commissioner with me tonight, Hi Michael, but leave me Ryan.

1622
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: Is it illegal to post videos from CCTV from your

1623
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: shop onto the internet.

1624
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 29: So what we have at play here is two scenarios

1625
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 29: and it's important not to confuse them. In general terms,

1626
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 29: retailers can share information between themselves privately, particularly if they

1627
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 29: have cctvodage of people committing crimes, say in a mall situation,

1628
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 29: or there people who is in their shot. Second of

1629
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 29: these public walls of shame or public public online posts

1630
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 29: on Facebook, and those might be intended to, for example,

1631
01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 29: humiliate of cause embarrassment. They're not shared for the main

1632
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 29: purpose of any other retailers and therefore they could actually

1633
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 29: be in breach of the privacy.

1634
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 3: Yet, what does that mean. What is the potential punishment, Well, the.

1635
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 29: Potential punishment is that someone could complain. We're what cases

1636
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 29: for example, where people have had their pictures posted They

1637
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 29: only came in to shop with a group of friends,

1638
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 29: one of the friends stole something. They didn't steal something,

1639
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 29: but they had their picture posted up on one of

1640
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 29: these public walls of shame. They suffered emotional trauma from that,

1641
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 29: they were shunned by their small community they lived in,

1642
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 29: and actually in the end they got a formal apology

1643
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 29: and some financial compensation from the store.

1644
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 3: Ad issue there right, if you get it right, is

1645
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 3: there anything wrong with it? I mean, if you identify

1646
01:26:51,200 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: the right person and they were the thief, then it's

1647
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:53,599
Speaker 3: all fine.

1648
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 23: If you get it right.

1649
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 29: If you know that you've caught someone stealing, for example

1650
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 29: through CCTV, what you should do is share that between privately,

1651
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 29: between the retailers and the store, between yourself and your start,

1652
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 29: say with more security, if you're part of the more

1653
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,719
Speaker 29: and that's an appropriate way to use that information.

1654
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 3: Do you have sympathy for the businesses who are doing this.

1655
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 29: I absolutely have sympathy for those in the retail game

1656
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 29: at the moment. Retail crime is a serious issue, and

1657
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 29: I've been engaging with retailers about the issues that they face,

1658
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 29: and the publication and sharing the information about alleged defenders

1659
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 29: is an issue for them, and so we just wanted

1660
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 29: to help them with some guidance in the space to

1661
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 29: do the right thing.

1662
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 3: All right, Michael, appreciate you coming on the show. Michael Webster,

1663
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 3: Privacy Commissioner on CCTV and What Not to Do with

1664
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 3: It twenty one minutes away from seven on News Talks

1665
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 3: Big coming up, we'll get to Endebrady over in the UK,

1666
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 3: Sarah Ferguson a lot of trouble for her over those

1667
01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 3: Epstein emails. Basically a mass cancelation that's ahead, whether it's a.

1668
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 1: Macro MicroB or just playing economics on the Business Hour

1669
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and Mass for Insurance Investments and Kiwi Saber,

1670
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 1: You're in good hands.

1671
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 4: News Talks Evy.

1672
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 3: It is eighteen minutes away from seven. The Herald's reporting

1673
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: on this story today which is getting a lot of

1674
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 3: traction and you can see why it's one it's grotesque,

1675
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,719
Speaker 3: but two. It is shocking what you can get away

1676
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 3: with in New Zealand And in terms of the justice

1677
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 3: system and how much you can get discounted for bizarre things.

1678
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: And I think this has to fall into the category

1679
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 3: of bizarre. This is a member of an affluent New

1680
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 3: Zealand family. You might have read about this story previously

1681
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 3: convicted of having extreme child abuse material and it was

1682
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: all the details are suppressed, right, So you don't know

1683
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 3: the family name, you don't know the man's name, you

1684
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 3: don't know the high profile company that's involved any of

1685
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 3: that stuff. All you know is that some sort of

1686
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 3: affluent New Zealand family. I'm convicted for knowingly possessing thousands

1687
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 3: of objectionable material files and knowingly importing the content.

1688
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: Right.

1689
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 3: So this is the person we're talking about gets a

1690
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: discount on their sentence because they gave money to charity.

1691
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: Fifty thousand, four hundred dollars to charities and given a

1692
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 3: three percent sentence reduction for the donations. Like, how is that?

1693
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 3: How is that a thing? Donations? This is the bit

1694
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:26,719
Speaker 3: that gets you. Donations were made on June ninth, twenty

1695
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 3: twenty five. Sentencing date June thirteenth, So a couple days

1696
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: before sentencing, Chucks fifty grand ats some charities and gets

1697
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 3: a three percent discount for the privilege. More details of

1698
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 3: that at the Herald Ins at hero dot co. Dot

1699
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 3: Ins had just gone sixteen away from seven Ryan Bridge.

1700
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 3: Let's go to our UK correspondent, end of Brady. Who's

1701
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: with us in the good evening?

1702
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 30: Hey Ryan, good to speak to you.

1703
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 3: Great to have you on as always. Tell us what's

1704
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: happening with Sarah Ferguson? The big cancelation is on?

1705
01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 30: Yeah, this is extraordinary and I think a lot of

1706
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 30: people have been waiting a long time to see this happen.

1707
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 30: So what has sparked everything? All these charities are now

1708
01:30:09,360 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 30: running a mile from Sarah Ferguson. And you know, as

1709
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 30: anti charity, I've worked with a lot of charities. They're

1710
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 30: all so badly in need of funding and money and

1711
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 30: celebrity profile to help them. And a royal patronage is

1712
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 30: just unheard of. You know, there's so many charities out there.

1713
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,559
Speaker 30: What we saw very very quickly was a small hospice

1714
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 30: on the South coast put out a very dignified statement

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Speaker 30: saying the emails we've seen in the media over the

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Speaker 30: Weekend written by Sarah Ferguson to Jeffrey Epstein, calling him

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Speaker 30: her supreme friend and generous friend, and then you know,

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01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 30: apologizing if he'd heard her use the P word, as

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01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 30: in pedophile about him. This very small hospice issued a

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01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,680
Speaker 30: dignified statement saying we don't want anything to do with

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01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 30: this woman anymore. Then followed a breast cancer charity, a

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01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 30: teenage each cancer charity trust. One after the other, they

1723
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 30: fell like Domino's until last night, a dog's charity, believe

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Speaker 30: it or not, ran away from Sarah Ferguson of charity

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01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 30: for Retired Service Dogs, saying they could no longer have

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01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 30: anything to do with her. So I think what we're

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01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 30: seeing the last twenty four hours and probably more to

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01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 30: come today, Sarah Ferguson will be treated the same way

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01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 30: as her ex husband, who she still shares a home

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Speaker 30: with now.

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01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 3: She maintained through all of this that what she was

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01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: saying public or privately was different to what she was

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01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 3: saying publicly. Right, So the big flaw in her argument

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01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 3: is that the man she had allegedly used the word

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01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 3: p the P word the pedophile about was Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: He was a convicted pedophile, sorry him threatening to sue

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Speaker 3: her for defamation. You can't be sued for defamation if

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01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 3: what you've said about a man is factually true, proven

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01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 3: in court, and he went to prison for it in

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01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 3: two thousand and five.

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Speaker 30: So her argument just does that not add up? But look,

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Speaker 30: you're not exactly dealing with the brains of Britain here

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01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 30: are you.

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01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:05,920
Speaker 2: Hey?

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01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Nigel Farage, he's come up with his immigration plans. He

1746
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 3: wants to restrict benefits to UK citizens. Has all us

1747
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,400
Speaker 3: going what are the details and how's it going down?

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Speaker 30: So he says that once he's Prime minister, and look

1749
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 30: he's measuring the curtains up in Downing Street four years

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 30: in advance. I think he's in for a very big

1751
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 30: fall this guy. So Forage has come out every Monday

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01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 30: now he's basically holding a news conference and if he

1753
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 30: hasn't got someone to defect from the Conservatives, he comes

1754
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 30: out with a big, outlandish piece of policy. Now already

1755
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 30: it is riddled with holes. He says that he becomes

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01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 30: Prime minister, the only people eligible for benefits will be

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01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 30: British people UK citizens, right, And he says that everything

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01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 30: he's going to change about benefits and getting rid of

1759
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 30: indefinite leave to remain. This is something that people get.

1760
01:32:57,560 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 30: It's not as good as citizenship, but you can stay

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01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 30: here forever pretty much. Faras reckons that by his calculation,

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01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 30: and I think again this has been done on the

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01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 30: back of a beer matt, probably after several beers. He

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01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 30: reckons it will save half a trillion dollars over a generation. Now,

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01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,240
Speaker 30: the think tank that provided those figures actually came back

1766
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 30: back very very quickly and said no, no, no, this

1767
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 30: is wrong. We made the wrong calculations. Nevertheless, this is

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01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 30: manna from heaven for Farag's followers and the idea that

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01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 30: you know, removing benefits from anyone who's not British. I

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01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 30: would say to Nigel we have nine point two million

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01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 30: people in the UK doing nothing, not in employment, not

1772
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:42,560
Speaker 30: in education, not in training, and not paying taxes. And

1773
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 30: I would say, if you go through the nine point

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01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 30: two million, there aren't that many of them that are migrants.

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01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Just a hunch. Hey, I know you're a big marathon runner,

1776
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 3: and I saw that Harry Styles run and ran a

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01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 3: sub three marathon in Bolin, but it's not as he's

1778
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 3: been doing. I think he did Tokyo. He's obviously quite

1779
01:33:59,600 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 3: into this.

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01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,320
Speaker 30: It's amazing and good luck to him. So he ran

1781
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 30: under the alias stead Sarendos, so you know everyone can

1782
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,720
Speaker 30: see who's entered races, and if you're kind of competitive,

1783
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 30: you go have a look through you and see who's there.

1784
01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 30: I think it's amazing. I take my hat off to Harry.

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01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 30: I'll be lucky to interview him over the years. He's

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01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 30: a lovely, lovely guy and he's just honestly, honestly Ryan,

1787
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 30: one of these annoyingly talented people. I'm not in any

1788
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,680
Speaker 30: way surprised. He has everything in his locker, from the

1789
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 30: singing to the looks, and he's a gentleman as well

1790
01:34:31,040 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 30: to deal with. But running two fifty nine in Berlin,

1791
01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 30: I take my hat off to him. I've been trying

1792
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,519
Speaker 30: to run under three hours all my life. I'm pushing

1793
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 30: fifteen now. I'll be a fifty at Christmas and the

1794
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,280
Speaker 30: closest I've got is three hours, twenty two minutes and

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01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 30: forty three seconds. So well done, Harry Styles. I'm in all.

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01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 3: Like you said, there's nothing he can't do. Hey, you

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01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 3: appreciate your time in Thank you so much that it's

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01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 3: in the Brady, a UK correspondent. It is eleven to

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01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: seven and you're on Newstalk's EBB.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather too for see Alan Drive Full Show

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01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:08,519
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Speaker 3: Eight minutes away from seven News TALKSID be bad news

1803
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,680
Speaker 3: if you're a sinner because the raptures coming. Have you

1804
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 3: heard about this? It's all over the internet. Apparently. A

1805
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 3: South African pastor has set the social media scene a

1806
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 3: light after his claim on a podcast that the rapture

1807
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 3: is almost here, very nearly here.

1808
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 7: Se Jesus sitting on his tour and I would hear

1809
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 7: him very loud into you, I am coming soon.

1810
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,960
Speaker 3: So he's actually given a date past. His name is

1811
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 3: Joshua Marcalia. He claims that he spoke to Jesus. He

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01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 3: said he would return to Earth on September twenty third,

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01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. That is tomorrow, well that is today actually,

1814
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 3: but over there it's tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: You see.

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01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Now all going to plan, which apparently is what it

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01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 3: is the return of Jesus and Christianity brings with it

1818
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: the rapture when all of God's children get carried off

1819
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,160
Speaker 3: to heaven while the sinner's inherit the earth as the

1820
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 3: final battle between God and Satan takes place. For those

1821
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 3: who are unfamiliar, Just so that we're clear, I think

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01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,920
Speaker 3: most of the Internet isn't taking this with a grain

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01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 3: of salt.

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01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 10: Rapture trip tip number five. When you finally start moving

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01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 10: up into the air, I recommend that you don't hold

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01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 10: on to anything. I definitely don't recommend looking down. Okay,

1827
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,960
Speaker 10: just keep calm, take a deep breath, slowly release it,

1828
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 10: and keep your face looking upwards.

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01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 3: That's the Internet for today and tomorrow. Hopefully the rapture

1830
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,120
Speaker 3: doesn't happen, because we need to know who the new

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01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 3: Reserve Bank governor is, and there's a press confidence it's

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01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 3: going to tell us that tomorrow, according to our reporter

1833
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: Azaria Howell, who we had on earlier, going to be,

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01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 3: according to Bloomberg, a woman going to be, according to Bloomberg,

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01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 3: a foreigner going to be, according to Bloomberg, the deputy

1836
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 3: governor of the Bank of England, though none of that,

1837
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 3: of course, is confirmed, although many of you have said

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01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: texting in this afternoon, Remember Nikola Willis did go over

1839
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 3: to London not so long ago, so would the timing

1840
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 3: of it would kind of match up. If she wanted

1841
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 3: to have a little chit chat, then that would probably

1842
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 3: be an ideal time to do it. She was over

1843
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 3: there meeting with finance people, That's all she said. Well

1844
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 3: that's a finance person, isn't it Anyway? Where's wait till

1845
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 3: tomorrow and see what happens? Coming up to five away

1846
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,599
Speaker 3: from seven? Now, Libby, what are we going out to tonight?

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01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 25: A bit of.

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01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 31: Fleetwood mac Cross tonight because for a very special occasion,

1849
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:33,480
Speaker 31: Nicki Stevie next sorry has posted on Instagram.

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01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 3: Oh, Nicki Steve, Nicki Steve.

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01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 31: She's posted on Instagram a letter that she found in

1852
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:42,280
Speaker 31: her parents' draw at home, and it's fifty years old.

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01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 31: She wrote it when she was just twenty seven, and

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01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 31: in the letter she says, I'm getting very tired of

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01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 31: listening to over twelve hours of music a day, but

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01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 31: I'm confident it will pay off in the end.

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01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 3: What a call a letter to write, and Sidney has

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01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 3: paid off. Stevie. Enjoy everybody and have a great evening.

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01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow.

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01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 4: She raised like bells in life?

1861
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,000
Speaker 12: Would you love love?

1862
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:38,959
Speaker 8: She was alive?

1863
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:43,400
Speaker 3: And bird fla will be love?

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01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 32: Why you lad?

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01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 15: You never sing?

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01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:54,840
Speaker 32: Warbles, gagging back win, would you say as I promised

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01:38:54,920 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 32: you ever we have always Ellen Jay is basta, that's

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Speaker 32: got day, That's take, that's the day is fast Take Bascot.

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