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Speaker 2: Yes caller, Good afternoon, Welcome into Weekend Sport on News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Heab the Sunday edition for February twenty two. Happy sixty

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Speaker 2: third birthday to Fijian golf of VJ. Singh Formula one

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Speaker 2: legend Nikki Lada, also born on this day, nineteen forty nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jason Pineshow producer Andy McDonald. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: sport with you until three o'clock this afternoon. Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: head coach Jihan Coloertaliano has resigned. He did so after

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Speaker 2: the side's five nil defeat at home to Auckland City

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Speaker 2: Auckland FC rather yesterday. It comes with eight games left

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Speaker 2: in the A League's regular season and after two and

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Speaker 2: a half seasons in the role of head coach. Yesterday

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Speaker 2: was the sixth straight defeat to Walkland FC since they

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Speaker 2: entered the competition last season and The five yeal score

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Speaker 2: line was the equal worst home defeat in Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: club history. This felt inevitable. Really keen to kick it

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Speaker 2: around though with you, especially Phoenix fans, and in a

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Speaker 2: wider sense, when something like this happens, how much responsibility

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Speaker 2: do the players need to take? Yes, it's the coach

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Speaker 2: who usually carries the can as it were. They're the

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Speaker 2: one who tends to depart in situations like this, even

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Speaker 2: though once the game begins there's very little that the

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Speaker 2: coach can actually do. Yes, they can try to impact

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Speaker 2: things out there with tactical tweaks, substitutions and such like,

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Speaker 2: but it's up to the players once the game is underway.

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Speaker 2: And yet it is the coach who, as I say,

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Speaker 2: normally feels the full impact of things like this football,

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Speaker 2: our focus, this our Can you get your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine

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Speaker 2: to two, on text other matters around today? Quite a bit?

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs have opened their Super Rugby season with back

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Speaker 2: to back victories. They beat the Highlanders twenty six twenty

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Speaker 2: three and Dunedin last night. Going to unpack that for

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Speaker 2: you after one meantime up North England Humboldt forty two

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Speaker 2: twenty one by Ireland at Twickenham, their second straight Six

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Speaker 2: Nations defeat. James Burrich out of the BBC on that

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Speaker 2: the fief of World Cup getting ever closer to the

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Speaker 2: All Whites back home next month for a couple of

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Speaker 2: friendly matches against Finland and Chile. Or Whites attacker Eli

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Speaker 2: just is with us. He's playing his club football in

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Speaker 2: Scotland at the moment. He's going to pop in for

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Speaker 2: a chat, as is sprinter Tommy Tapooni. He yesterday said

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Speaker 2: a new two hundred meter national record at the International

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Speaker 2: Track Meet in christ Church. He's going to join us

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Speaker 2: for a chat. The Northern Brave Women have claimed their

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Speaker 2: first national cricket title in any format, a sixty seven

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Speaker 2: run victory over the Wellington Blaze at the Basin yesterday

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Speaker 2: to lift the Halle Burton Johnston Shield. We'll try and

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Speaker 2: get some reaction out of the Northern Brave camp. Nick

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Speaker 2: Beuli out of christ Church. A rare Sunday afternoon Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby match Crusaders v Brumby's three thirty five This afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Nick's going to preview that for US. James mcconey as

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Speaker 2: usual on a Sunday Live Sport. While we're on the

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Speaker 2: air well, it's the men's turn and domestic fifty over

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Speaker 2: cricket their final, The Ford Trophy Final is on right

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Speaker 2: now at the basin. Canterbury v Central Districts. Canterbury won

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Speaker 2: the toss and elected to bat first and Captain Henry Nichols,

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Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix head coach Giancarlo Italiano has resigned from his

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Speaker 3: Lose five Neil at home, you know, with you know,

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Speaker 3: the season's thought to playfalls unacceptable and I take full responsibility,

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Speaker 3: you know, So you know, I've told the club ago

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Speaker 2: There was Giancarlo Italiano in his post match press conference

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Speaker 2: Now we've been in touch with Wellington Phoenix this morning

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Speaker 2: But understandably the day after this they are a bit

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Speaker 2: going on with players and the remaining coaches and everybody

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Speaker 2: be taking up a lot of their time today. We

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Speaker 2: what played out over the last twenty four hours or so.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, former Phoenix and All Whites goalkeeper and

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Speaker 2: now Skysport commentator and analyst Jacob Spoonley is with us

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Speaker 2: on Weekend Sport. Jacob, was this a surprise when you

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Speaker 4: It's a good question, Bini, and I think in the

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Speaker 4: of status of magnitude, there is suggestion that these sorts

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Speaker 4: of conversations will occur. Now, the speed with which has happened,

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Speaker 4: I think that's been something that we weren't anticipating. But

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Speaker 4: I think that's selfless in a lot of ways. From

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Speaker 4: Gean Carlo Taliano in his post match press conference, he

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Speaker 4: someone else the opportunity to get the Knicks into the

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Speaker 2: Do you think if he hadn't resigned that that decision

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure, and that's always a conversation for the

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Speaker 4: every club will have different criteria and they'll have different priorities.

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Speaker 4: With Auckland, it's very clear that there is a focus

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Speaker 4: With the Phoenix there's potentially other priorities, and we do

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Speaker 4: We saw the development of the likes of Alex Paulson

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Speaker 4: this is just my personal view, to leave those sorts

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Speaker 2: No fair enough, fair enough, You've been part of a

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Speaker 2: the coach has lost the dressing room. I think everybody

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Speaker 2: understands what it means. You don't, of course have access

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's arguably the first slip in the avalanche,

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Speaker 4: often it's simple maths. It's easier to move one on

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Speaker 4: I think that this wasn't working and that they were

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Speaker 4: I say this wholeheardly should be involved in the conversations

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Speaker 2: Just on the playing group. Obviously, you know it's off

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Speaker 2: it's the coach who is on the chopping block. How

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Speaker 4: I don't think this is quarantine to the coach. This

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Speaker 4: they're all well aware of social media, and it's not

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Speaker 5: Really wearing that on their shoulders.

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Speaker 4: So the task for somebody coming in for the new

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if this is the football god's pony,

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Speaker 2: You know, the football gods do tend to work in

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Speaker 2: mysterious ways sometimes, don't they. And you've landed on a

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Speaker 2: good point a couple of times. The Phoenix are still

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Speaker 2: only five points outside the top six, with twenty four

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Speaker 2: Greenaker seems the most likely candidate for that, having done

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Speaker 2: the job before, the former player, of course and head

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Speaker 2: of the academy at Wellington. Do you foresee a possibility

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Speaker 2: or a scenario under which the Phoenix do go on

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Speaker 2: this and do make a challenge for the top six?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: And I know that when you look at the table

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Speaker 4: in isolation, Auckland sat second yesterday and the Phoenix sat

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Speaker 4: I think it was tenth. Now that's a huge difference

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Speaker 4: between the two sides. But an actual fact going into

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Speaker 4: yesterday's game, the Phoenix were four points outside the six

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Speaker 4: and that was six points from third. This A League

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Speaker 4: season is not unique, because we see this in the

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Speaker 4: A League to a certain extent each year, but it

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Speaker 4: is a very flat competitive season. Sides are taking points

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Speaker 4: can't necessarily escape the grasps of the paloton, but equally

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Speaker 4: you're not too far off the slipstream. And over the

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Speaker 4: next month or so, if whoever comes in, and Chris

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Speaker 4: Greenacre is a name that has been mentioned several times

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Speaker 2: of Wellington Phoenix coach Jim Caloertaliano. Can to kick this

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Speaker 2: They hardly had to get out a third gear real

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Speaker 7: I blame the players. I haven't seen the poor replay yet.

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Speaker 2: That was a It was an Aukland player who did that.

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Speaker 7: The goalkeeper where I think the game would be better completely.

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Speaker 7: It's not like I used to go to Evewood Park

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Speaker 7: He actually dragged it out of the air while it's

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Speaker 7: It's his fault, and I don't think this is there's

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Speaker 2: Do you believe in the concept, Tony? Do you believe

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Speaker 7: Now, well, there's an old saying. I've had some managerial

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Speaker 7: the to the manager. See, we would like an interview

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Speaker 7: with you, and could you include the owners of the

431
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Speaker 7: club and the sort of the differences out there, not

432
00:24:21,347 --> 00:24:24,707
Speaker 7: just play fight around my field like silly buggies and

433
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Speaker 7: it isn't great. It's what I've seen of it and

434
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Speaker 7: what I've seen the previous game. Three players. They didn't

435
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Speaker 7: seem to be trying.

436
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any agitation going on the

437
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Speaker 2: background here. Thanks Tony, I appreciate you cool. I don't

438
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Speaker 2: think there's any There wasn't any sort of player uprising

439
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Speaker 2: here in the background. I don't think the players have

440
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Speaker 2: mobilized together and gone off to see the ownership group

441
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Speaker 2: and said, hey, we we don't have any faith in

442
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Speaker 2: our boss anymore. As Jacob said when we spoke to him,

443
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Speaker 2: it felt as though the players still wanted to play

444
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Speaker 2: for Jihan Calloertelliano. There were many instances earlier on season

445
00:25:06,867 --> 00:25:09,387
Speaker 2: where the tactics he was employing around a very high

446
00:25:09,387 --> 00:25:12,867
Speaker 2: defensive line saw them come unstuck, but they seem to

447
00:25:12,907 --> 00:25:19,947
Speaker 2: have fixed that up. What worried me yesterday was after

448
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Speaker 2: that first goal. Like I say, things happen, but it's

449
00:25:22,907 --> 00:25:25,707
Speaker 2: one nill. You're only one nil down. It's the same

450
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Speaker 2: as going one nil down in any fashion. But it

451
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Speaker 2: just seemed as though the air came completely out of

452
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Speaker 2: the tires of that team after that goal. I know

453
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Speaker 2: you're looking around saying, what on earth has happened here?

454
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Speaker 2: But it's only one nill, Paul says on text, I

455
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Speaker 2: notice none of the Phoenix players rallied around Josh after

456
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Speaker 2: that howler. The game wasn't lost at one Nill. Had

457
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Speaker 2: they just picked up their goalie and maybe he makes

458
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Speaker 2: a save on the second one, things all be different, Stark.

459
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Speaker 2: Contrast to the Auckland players who rallied around Michael Vaud

460
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Speaker 2: after his ERA a few weeks back. Thanks paul A Patahama, Hello.

461
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Speaker 6: Hi, how I am?

462
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Speaker 8: I hope you're summering well?

463
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Speaker 2: I am? I hope you are too.

464
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought it's been a while, so I thought

465
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Speaker 9: i'd give you a yell after it, you know, after

466
00:26:14,867 --> 00:26:16,787
Speaker 9: I walked down after seventy minutes, not a shamsion.

467
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Speaker 10: But at last night, Pony, there's something about you know,

468
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Speaker 10: you hear murmurings of the locker room. But I'm also

469
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Speaker 10: with you about the players that inconsistencies on the players,

470
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Speaker 10: and this season more than any they've been prone to

471
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Speaker 10: those sort of shockers and conceding goals on shockers. Because

472
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Speaker 10: they were up at about yesterday big time, and they

473
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Speaker 10: were and it was scrappy as hell. I was like, oh, well,

474
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Speaker 10: at least Auckland aren't cutting us apart. And to your

475
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Speaker 10: point about the reaction as soon as that went in,

476
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Speaker 10: that was such a bad goal to concede that we've

477
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Speaker 10: had some hellers over the years. And then Josh himself like,

478
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Speaker 10: I'm in the first ever day game. But I was like,

479
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Speaker 10: this could derail the game, and I suppose so it

480
00:27:03,107 --> 00:27:08,747
Speaker 10: proved in terms of chiefly I think, mate, you got

481
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Speaker 10: how he wanted to play, but did he have the

482
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Speaker 10: players to play it? That's sort of my own e

483
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Speaker 10: and he was a bit I felt like maybe he

484
00:27:15,547 --> 00:27:19,947
Speaker 10: was a bit inflexible around it. I know Corbyn's getting

485
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Speaker 10: managed this.

486
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Speaker 6: Year, but he's like a.

487
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Speaker 10: He's an on field culture guy in terms of he

488
00:27:26,587 --> 00:27:31,827
Speaker 10: brings energy. I've been leaving him late recently, but I'm

489
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Speaker 10: sort of with you, man, it's on the players. When

490
00:27:33,947 --> 00:27:35,427
Speaker 10: we're up to Noil and we were looking at a

491
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Speaker 10: million bucks, you wanted begad Western Sydney, maybe a few

492
00:27:38,307 --> 00:27:39,027
Speaker 10: weeks at home.

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Speaker 9: There's no way they should have lost that game. So yeah,

494
00:27:43,627 --> 00:27:46,027
Speaker 9: they got to carry the can. Maybe he's just sick

495
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Speaker 9: of it, who knows then?

496
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean it's it's such a hard balance

497
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Speaker 2: to strike, isn't it. You're right? I mean he and

498
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Speaker 2: people have set to me. Look, he sets the culture,

499
00:27:54,907 --> 00:27:58,107
Speaker 2: he sets the team, and and he sends them out

500
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Speaker 2: with with instructions ringing in their ears. But but once

501
00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:03,747
Speaker 2: you know, once they're out there, he can't. He can't

502
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Speaker 2: sort of. I mean, there's no way that Gianclo would

503
00:28:06,227 --> 00:28:08,907
Speaker 2: tell can legislate against something that happened in that first goal.

504
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Speaker 2: But then there is an ability, through a culture that

505
00:28:12,947 --> 00:28:16,267
Speaker 2: permeates through a side, for a team to quickly put

506
00:28:16,307 --> 00:28:18,267
Speaker 2: that behind them and say, right, we can't do anything

507
00:28:18,267 --> 00:28:20,867
Speaker 2: about it. Now, we can't turn back time. What can

508
00:28:20,907 --> 00:28:21,587
Speaker 2: we do from here?

509
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Speaker 10: Did you notice this today that Albi didn't look ready

510
00:28:25,307 --> 00:28:27,507
Speaker 10: at halftime because we were like, you know, everyone.

511
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Speaker 9: Was ready and we had no goalie.

512
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Speaker 6: Hey.

513
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Speaker 9: I was like, okay, Josh.

514
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Speaker 10: You might be having a mouthdown. And I don't blame

515
00:28:33,347 --> 00:28:36,027
Speaker 10: him for it because the second goal as well. But yeah,

516
00:28:36,067 --> 00:28:39,387
Speaker 10: that's sort of like, what's going on there? How come

517
00:28:39,427 --> 00:28:40,587
Speaker 10: nobody knows who's not there?

518
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Speaker 9: I don't know what's your view of that?

519
00:28:43,067 --> 00:28:45,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he was warming up at half time.

520
00:28:45,267 --> 00:28:46,707
Speaker 2: I was watching at half time and he was out

521
00:28:46,707 --> 00:28:48,787
Speaker 2: there warming up, which never happens, you know. I think

522
00:28:48,827 --> 00:28:51,027
Speaker 2: the outfield subs sometimes have a kick around, but he

523
00:28:51,147 --> 00:28:53,147
Speaker 2: was actually being warmed up at half time, and then

524
00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:54,627
Speaker 2: I think what happened. You have to come over to

525
00:28:54,707 --> 00:28:57,507
Speaker 2: half way to be subbed on officially, so and that's

526
00:28:57,547 --> 00:28:59,827
Speaker 2: why he wasn't in goal. But yeah, look, but then

527
00:28:59,987 --> 00:29:02,947
Speaker 2: see that that's another one as well. Is that the

528
00:29:03,027 --> 00:29:05,147
Speaker 2: right decision to take your keeper off at halftime. I

529
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Speaker 2: just think josh Is confident was so shot by that stage,

530
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Speaker 2: because if you look at the goals, obviously the first

531
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Speaker 2: one is the first one, but he got a hand

532
00:29:12,947 --> 00:29:15,707
Speaker 2: on the second one and was badly out of position

533
00:29:15,747 --> 00:29:17,947
Speaker 2: for the fourth goal. He wasn't out by his defenders

534
00:29:17,947 --> 00:29:19,947
Speaker 2: for the third one. But I just think his confidence

535
00:29:20,027 --> 00:29:22,187
Speaker 2: was so shot it would have been a dereliction of

536
00:29:22,227 --> 00:29:23,827
Speaker 2: duty to send him back out in the second half.

537
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Speaker 6: And he was even out there.

538
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Speaker 9: I don't think he was even out there.

539
00:29:27,667 --> 00:29:28,507
Speaker 6: I was looking on the bench.

540
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Speaker 2: Yeah I don't, Yeah, I don't think he I think

541
00:29:32,027 --> 00:29:33,787
Speaker 2: you're right. I don't think he came out in the

542
00:29:33,787 --> 00:29:35,747
Speaker 2: second half, even to sit on the bench. I just

543
00:29:35,787 --> 00:29:37,907
Speaker 2: think he was so mortified with what had happened, and

544
00:29:37,947 --> 00:29:39,627
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing here. I'm not inside his head, but

545
00:29:39,947 --> 00:29:41,707
Speaker 2: just feels to me as though he was so mortified

546
00:29:41,707 --> 00:29:44,307
Speaker 2: about it that he just just stayed in the in

547
00:29:44,347 --> 00:29:47,267
Speaker 2: the changing room. So yeah, we'll see what happens from

548
00:29:47,627 --> 00:29:48,187
Speaker 2: we'll go on a.

549
00:29:48,267 --> 00:29:50,227
Speaker 9: Run and we'll you know, we'll get our first win

550
00:29:50,307 --> 00:29:51,067
Speaker 9: in the Grand Final.

551
00:29:51,107 --> 00:29:51,867
Speaker 6: That'll stick it up the.

552
00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:57,267
Speaker 2: Good the jet Pardahama as always always loved chatting to

553
00:29:57,307 --> 00:29:59,547
Speaker 2: your mate. Thanks indeed, Patrick, Hi.

554
00:30:00,627 --> 00:30:05,307
Speaker 8: Oh hello, hello, are you I'm good? Yeah, yeah, I'm not. Look,

555
00:30:05,347 --> 00:30:09,387
Speaker 8: I've been a senexpan for fifteen years. I was at

556
00:30:09,387 --> 00:30:17,907
Speaker 8: the game yesterday. I'm sorry. Italiano chose the players. Five

557
00:30:17,907 --> 00:30:20,787
Speaker 8: of the players that are on the field are over thirty.

558
00:30:21,147 --> 00:30:23,987
Speaker 8: They have a very poor goal scoring record, as have

559
00:30:24,187 --> 00:30:27,467
Speaker 8: two on the bench. He chose the players, he chose

560
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Speaker 8: the tactics, you know. As for developing younger players like Cassidy,

561
00:30:34,747 --> 00:30:38,267
Speaker 8: like brook Smith should have been there, you know. So

562
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry. I just don't agree with the idea that

563
00:30:41,947 --> 00:30:47,867
Speaker 8: he had no influence on the game or on the season.

564
00:30:48,387 --> 00:30:53,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I wasn't completely absolving him of blame. Patrick,

565
00:30:53,387 --> 00:30:55,707
Speaker 2: I just think that they're also as a responsibility to

566
00:30:55,707 --> 00:30:58,467
Speaker 2: be shouldered by the players. But look, you're on you know,

567
00:30:59,227 --> 00:31:04,147
Speaker 2: as you know, elite sports brutal and look, I'm sure

568
00:31:04,187 --> 00:31:06,347
Speaker 2: gian Calo Italiano won't look back on the last two

569
00:31:06,467 --> 00:31:10,067
Speaker 2: seasons with any sense of absolute pride. He talked afterwards

570
00:31:10,067 --> 00:31:12,387
Speaker 2: about how he was, you know, had been pleased with

571
00:31:12,427 --> 00:31:14,947
Speaker 2: some of the players he had developed. But to me, Patrick,

572
00:31:14,987 --> 00:31:17,347
Speaker 2: and you'll be able to speak to this, two seasons ago,

573
00:31:17,467 --> 00:31:20,587
Speaker 2: this team was unbelievable. They made it to within a

574
00:31:20,627 --> 00:31:22,867
Speaker 2: game of the Grand Final. And yes, a lot of

575
00:31:22,867 --> 00:31:24,587
Speaker 2: the players were different, and I think the likes of

576
00:31:24,587 --> 00:31:29,987
Speaker 2: Ben Old, Alex Paulson, Oscarsavada, Bokrai and others leaving that

577
00:31:30,067 --> 00:31:34,107
Speaker 2: never helps. But the fall off from two seasons ago

578
00:31:34,427 --> 00:31:35,347
Speaker 2: was so stuck.

579
00:31:37,787 --> 00:31:38,427
Speaker 6: I agree.

580
00:31:38,467 --> 00:31:41,827
Speaker 8: And but the recruitment the replacements just simply were not

581
00:31:41,867 --> 00:31:43,667
Speaker 8: good enough. And they weren't good enough yesterday.

582
00:31:46,187 --> 00:31:46,947
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

583
00:31:47,187 --> 00:31:52,267
Speaker 8: In my mind, it has a lot to do with money. Auckland,

584
00:31:53,147 --> 00:31:57,627
Speaker 8: as you know, have unlimited cap at the moment, so

585
00:31:57,667 --> 00:32:01,147
Speaker 8: they can buy really good players. But his selections were

586
00:32:01,147 --> 00:32:04,507
Speaker 8: really poor, and I don't and the techs weren't great.

587
00:32:04,547 --> 00:32:07,147
Speaker 8: They turned very slowly. You wouldn't mind if the older

588
00:32:07,187 --> 00:32:10,987
Speaker 8: players assisted in scoring goals, although were great on defense,

589
00:32:11,027 --> 00:32:12,187
Speaker 8: but they were that they were not.

590
00:32:14,347 --> 00:32:16,107
Speaker 2: Just before you go, Patrick, what was it like in

591
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Speaker 2: the crowd yesterday? What feeling did you get? I mean,

592
00:32:18,747 --> 00:32:21,987
Speaker 2: obviously you lost five nil, never never a great experience,

593
00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:24,347
Speaker 2: but what what were your hearing around you?

594
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Speaker 8: And the first time. I don't normally sit in the

595
00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:30,107
Speaker 8: Yellow Fever. I sat in the Yellow Fever or a

596
00:32:30,107 --> 00:32:32,907
Speaker 8: friend of mine.

597
00:32:33,187 --> 00:32:33,627
Speaker 6: I just.

598
00:32:35,107 --> 00:32:38,187
Speaker 8: That they which when they started chanting we're losing because

599
00:32:38,227 --> 00:32:41,467
Speaker 8: where I won't say the word because we're rubbish. That's

600
00:32:41,467 --> 00:32:44,427
Speaker 8: when I thought they've lost the crowd as well. Now

601
00:32:44,587 --> 00:32:48,787
Speaker 8: you know they lost the Yellow Fever. It wasn't a

602
00:32:48,827 --> 00:32:50,747
Speaker 8: good atmosphere for me. I just thought there was too

603
00:32:50,827 --> 00:32:54,067
Speaker 8: much drinking, too many swear words for children that were there.

604
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Speaker 8: I don't normally sit with the Yellow Fever. I was

605
00:32:58,467 --> 00:33:01,307
Speaker 8: very disappointed. I was disappointed in them in the game.

606
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Speaker 6: Well that's just it.

607
00:33:03,587 --> 00:33:06,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Patrick, A well appreciate you calling

608
00:33:06,147 --> 00:33:08,547
Speaker 2: to it. I hope it's a better Sunday for you, mate.

609
00:33:09,507 --> 00:33:11,027
Speaker 2: And we've got the women's team as well to look

610
00:33:11,067 --> 00:33:12,347
Speaker 2: forward to. Although I've got a bit of a time

611
00:33:12,347 --> 00:33:14,267
Speaker 2: off now, but maybe they're the ones who carry the

612
00:33:14,267 --> 00:33:16,427
Speaker 2: flag for us and we find out I guess tomorrow

613
00:33:16,427 --> 00:33:18,987
Speaker 2: who takes the men's team forward. Thanks Patrick, appreciate you

614
00:33:19,027 --> 00:33:21,067
Speaker 2: calling in seventeen and a half away from one back.

615
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Speaker 2: With more of your calls after this on New Stalks.

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Speaker 2: This is the domestic fifty over final. We're talking Phoenix. Derek.

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Speaker 2: You have watched a heck of a lot of football,

625
00:33:51,387 --> 00:33:53,547
Speaker 2: I know you have. Have you ever seen a goal

626
00:33:53,627 --> 00:33:54,787
Speaker 2: like that first one yesterday?

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Speaker 6: No? I haven't, I haven't.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, I was just trying to wreck my brain of

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Speaker 11: that call he had before, was talking about Gordon Banks

630
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Speaker 11: pulling the ball back from over the line. I can't

631
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Speaker 11: remember what he's talking about. Theren't I haven't really seen

632
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Speaker 11: anything like it. When it first happened, I thought, as

633
00:34:09,867 --> 00:34:11,987
Speaker 11: he headed the ball into his own net. But you

634
00:34:11,987 --> 00:34:14,187
Speaker 11: were right as a commentator. You did say there was

635
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Speaker 11: an incident just before that where he seemed to he

636
00:34:17,787 --> 00:34:20,147
Speaker 11: seemed to think he seemed to let the ball bounce

637
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Speaker 11: and he sort of got I don't know whether it

638
00:34:22,027 --> 00:34:24,307
Speaker 11: was a wind at Wellington that usually is. He just

639
00:34:24,347 --> 00:34:27,187
Speaker 11: seemed to misjudge it completely. He's coming back from a

640
00:34:27,267 --> 00:34:30,747
Speaker 11: layoff and the end of the day loft these. This

641
00:34:30,787 --> 00:34:33,507
Speaker 11: is one of my pet peas and football besides Va

642
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Speaker 11: of course, is goalkeepers coming out into the field. They've

643
00:34:37,187 --> 00:34:39,027
Speaker 11: only got the net behind them as all as they're

644
00:34:39,027 --> 00:34:40,947
Speaker 11: going to defense behind them. We've got nothing behind them,

645
00:34:41,067 --> 00:34:42,827
Speaker 11: and they seem to think they can play the ball

646
00:34:42,867 --> 00:34:45,507
Speaker 11: around like the Andre Perlow. You know, I'll pass it

647
00:34:45,547 --> 00:34:48,467
Speaker 11: over here, I'll hit them, I'll hit a sixty meter pass.

648
00:34:48,747 --> 00:34:49,707
Speaker 11: That's not their job.

649
00:34:50,027 --> 00:34:50,227
Speaker 6: You know.

650
00:34:50,467 --> 00:34:52,507
Speaker 11: They even saw at the start of the second half

651
00:34:52,707 --> 00:34:55,387
Speaker 11: whereas Kelly, he'll come racing out. You see, there was

652
00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:59,107
Speaker 11: a bit of a bit of a confrontation between him

653
00:34:59,107 --> 00:35:01,547
Speaker 11: and a couple of defenders and an Auckland attacker.

654
00:35:01,587 --> 00:35:02,587
Speaker 6: I thought, get.

655
00:35:02,347 --> 00:35:03,987
Speaker 11: Back get back in goal, mate.

656
00:35:04,067 --> 00:35:04,627
Speaker 6: You know the goal.

657
00:35:04,867 --> 00:35:07,867
Speaker 11: The area is your is your area of expertise. You're

658
00:35:07,867 --> 00:35:11,627
Speaker 11: a goalkeeper, you know, take crosses, come out of people's feet,

659
00:35:12,267 --> 00:35:13,267
Speaker 11: be a shot stopper.

660
00:35:13,387 --> 00:35:15,027
Speaker 6: But don't come out and start playing the.

661
00:35:15,027 --> 00:35:17,467
Speaker 11: Ball around like Pep Guardiola and all his mates want

662
00:35:17,547 --> 00:35:19,867
Speaker 11: you to do. This is a fad and football. I've

663
00:35:19,947 --> 00:35:22,627
Speaker 11: been waiting for it to end. It just hasn't. And

664
00:35:22,667 --> 00:35:26,347
Speaker 11: now we see what happened. As an Auckland supporter and

665
00:35:26,427 --> 00:35:29,787
Speaker 11: born and bread in Auckland, obviously there's no doubt that

666
00:35:30,827 --> 00:35:32,227
Speaker 11: I'm over the moon that.

667
00:35:31,947 --> 00:35:32,827
Speaker 6: That Auckland have won.

668
00:35:32,907 --> 00:35:35,027
Speaker 11: And I've always had the feeling every time Auckland played

669
00:35:35,027 --> 00:35:38,587
Speaker 11: Phoenix they know before the whistle even kicks off, at

670
00:35:38,587 --> 00:35:40,747
Speaker 11: the start of the game, no matter what the conditions

671
00:35:40,747 --> 00:35:42,627
Speaker 11: are on the game, no matter what the scorer is,

672
00:35:42,667 --> 00:35:44,427
Speaker 11: no matter what the stage of the game is, I've

673
00:35:44,427 --> 00:35:46,587
Speaker 11: always had this feeling that Auckland think they're gonna win

674
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:49,427
Speaker 11: no matter what the stage is. Just it's a psychological

675
00:35:49,467 --> 00:35:51,307
Speaker 11: thing that's going on at the moment. There's no doubt

676
00:35:51,387 --> 00:35:54,907
Speaker 11: that Chief he is a great is a great guy

677
00:35:54,947 --> 00:35:56,867
Speaker 11: when it comes to what he wants to do in

678
00:35:56,867 --> 00:35:57,267
Speaker 11: the field.

679
00:35:57,307 --> 00:35:58,467
Speaker 6: We saw it in the first season.

680
00:35:58,467 --> 00:36:01,107
Speaker 11: You talked about it, but he had players of experience,

681
00:36:01,187 --> 00:36:04,907
Speaker 11: then players that know way circumstances happen in a certain

682
00:36:04,947 --> 00:36:07,027
Speaker 11: game and they stay cooled in the same are that

683
00:36:07,467 --> 00:36:09,227
Speaker 11: a lot of the times during the last couple of seasons,

684
00:36:09,267 --> 00:36:12,027
Speaker 11: he's played a back three average age between twenty and

685
00:36:12,027 --> 00:36:14,547
Speaker 11: twenty one, you know, and they don't understand why things

686
00:36:14,587 --> 00:36:17,067
Speaker 11: happen because they haven't got the experience. And I think

687
00:36:17,107 --> 00:36:19,787
Speaker 11: the next coach that comes in for Italiano has got

688
00:36:19,787 --> 00:36:20,627
Speaker 11: to get it into his head.

689
00:36:20,627 --> 00:36:21,547
Speaker 6: And this is a.

690
00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:24,467
Speaker 11: New, a new, a new way of looking at sport

691
00:36:24,547 --> 00:36:27,587
Speaker 11: in this country, especially at a professional level. There's a

692
00:36:27,667 --> 00:36:30,307
Speaker 11: rivalry going on here and a new coach can come

693
00:36:30,387 --> 00:36:33,107
Speaker 11: in and look, the Phoenix can lose one, now I

694
00:36:33,147 --> 00:36:35,347
Speaker 11: can lose five mil. Doesn't really doesn't really matter. You

695
00:36:35,387 --> 00:36:37,227
Speaker 11: win games, to lose games, that's all part of being

696
00:36:37,227 --> 00:36:39,307
Speaker 11: a manager. And he'll be giving the new the new

697
00:36:39,307 --> 00:36:42,027
Speaker 11: manager of be given time to settle and to do

698
00:36:42,147 --> 00:36:43,987
Speaker 11: his own thing, and it maybe even bring a couple

699
00:36:43,987 --> 00:36:45,827
Speaker 11: of players, and he might even have some money to spend.

700
00:36:45,867 --> 00:36:49,387
Speaker 11: I don't know, but losing to Auckland is a no go.

701
00:36:49,947 --> 00:36:51,827
Speaker 11: And you see this all the time all around the

702
00:36:51,827 --> 00:36:53,747
Speaker 11: world in sport. You know, you and I could be

703
00:36:54,107 --> 00:36:56,387
Speaker 11: co managers of Real Madrid. We can win the league,

704
00:36:56,387 --> 00:36:58,587
Speaker 11: we can win the European Cup. We get humiliated at

705
00:36:58,627 --> 00:37:00,707
Speaker 11: home and away to a Barcelona, we're out of a job.

706
00:37:00,947 --> 00:37:03,947
Speaker 11: And I think, yeah, this is what's going to happen.

707
00:37:04,027 --> 00:37:06,787
Speaker 11: So it's it's interesting times for the for the Phoenix

708
00:37:07,387 --> 00:37:09,707
Speaker 11: at the moment. And I and I've seen the and

709
00:37:09,787 --> 00:37:12,987
Speaker 11: I feel sorry for the yellow fever because the real

710
00:37:13,267 --> 00:37:15,827
Speaker 11: the real top supporters are good people and they want

711
00:37:15,867 --> 00:37:18,827
Speaker 11: the team to do well, but you know they're facing reality.

712
00:37:19,027 --> 00:37:20,707
Speaker 11: They're going through a bit of a change at the moment,

713
00:37:20,707 --> 00:37:23,067
Speaker 11: and the powers with Auckland. It won't always be with Auckland.

714
00:37:23,107 --> 00:37:25,147
Speaker 11: That's why I'm enjoying it. That's why I'm a little boastball.

715
00:37:25,387 --> 00:37:28,147
Speaker 11: But one time the Phoenix will start beating them. But

716
00:37:28,267 --> 00:37:30,627
Speaker 11: at the moment, at the moment in US heal and

717
00:37:30,707 --> 00:37:34,147
Speaker 11: there's a peregan shift of sorts and in football and

718
00:37:34,147 --> 00:37:34,707
Speaker 11: we're getting it.

719
00:37:34,747 --> 00:37:35,547
Speaker 6: And I and I go.

720
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:37,027
Speaker 11: Online and I have a look at a lot of

721
00:37:37,267 --> 00:37:39,707
Speaker 11: journeys who are mainly a Ruby union journalists talking about this,

722
00:37:39,947 --> 00:37:41,907
Speaker 11: and a lot of people trying to discuss what's going on.

723
00:37:42,187 --> 00:37:45,467
Speaker 11: But this is our club rivalry now. And whilst people

724
00:37:45,467 --> 00:37:47,507
Speaker 11: say well it's all all one sided rivalry, it is

725
00:37:47,507 --> 00:37:50,147
Speaker 11: not a railroad. No, it is a rivalry and you're

726
00:37:50,187 --> 00:37:52,427
Speaker 11: seeing it now. It doesn't matter what the stage of

727
00:37:52,427 --> 00:37:54,747
Speaker 11: the season, where you are in the where you are

728
00:37:54,787 --> 00:37:56,987
Speaker 11: in the on the table, at the at the moment,

729
00:37:57,307 --> 00:37:59,987
Speaker 11: any loss to Auckland fom Wellington is going to be

730
00:37:59,987 --> 00:38:02,227
Speaker 11: seen as unacceptable and I think there's something they're just

731
00:38:02,227 --> 00:38:04,347
Speaker 11: gonna have to wrap their heads around. And I'm looking

732
00:38:04,347 --> 00:38:07,347
Speaker 11: forward to the new. The new are how they're going

733
00:38:07,347 --> 00:38:09,707
Speaker 11: to get a new manager, because this their manager, it's

734
00:38:09,747 --> 00:38:10,227
Speaker 11: going to have.

735
00:38:10,187 --> 00:38:10,707
Speaker 6: To be drilled in.

736
00:38:10,827 --> 00:38:13,627
Speaker 11: Or if he's coming from Australia, I'm not sure if

737
00:38:13,627 --> 00:38:16,787
Speaker 11: you need a pro license to do an A League

738
00:38:16,827 --> 00:38:19,227
Speaker 11: club whether you can be an official coach if you

739
00:38:19,227 --> 00:38:21,107
Speaker 11: don't have a pro license. But anyone that comes over,

740
00:38:21,307 --> 00:38:23,507
Speaker 11: or anyone they bring in, or anyone they promote from within,

741
00:38:23,867 --> 00:38:25,347
Speaker 11: is going to have to get it round his head

742
00:38:25,587 --> 00:38:27,747
Speaker 11: that a loss to Orcord is unacceptable.

743
00:38:27,827 --> 00:38:30,987
Speaker 2: Jason, good on your Derek, You're so right. I mean

744
00:38:31,227 --> 00:38:33,587
Speaker 2: you'll have picked up on this. Sheffield United plays Sheffield

745
00:38:33,587 --> 00:38:36,467
Speaker 2: Wednesday tomorrow morning. One of the oldest rivalries in in

746
00:38:36,507 --> 00:38:39,027
Speaker 2: English football, and often your hear fans say, I don't

747
00:38:39,027 --> 00:38:40,747
Speaker 2: care if we're relegated as long as we beat the

748
00:38:40,787 --> 00:38:44,707
Speaker 2: other lot. Rivalries are important, and you're right, Derek. Football

749
00:38:44,747 --> 00:38:47,387
Speaker 2: fans here are starting to get their head around that

750
00:38:47,587 --> 00:38:50,987
Speaker 2: this is important. You can't lose six in a row

751
00:38:51,587 --> 00:38:54,907
Speaker 2: to your rivals. Good to chat to you, Derek, got

752
00:38:54,987 --> 00:38:57,787
Speaker 2: to miss a chair from a friend of mine who

753
00:38:57,827 --> 00:39:00,107
Speaker 2: was in the port yesterday. A couple of points. Most

754
00:39:00,147 --> 00:39:01,707
Speaker 2: of the port were saying the same thing. After the

755
00:39:01,707 --> 00:39:04,067
Speaker 2: first goal. It didn't even really feel like a game.

756
00:39:04,707 --> 00:39:07,227
Speaker 2: It seemed like nothing was ever going to really trouble

757
00:39:07,227 --> 00:39:12,027
Speaker 2: Auckland FC. Secondly, it was arguably Auckland f C's weakest

758
00:39:12,067 --> 00:39:15,427
Speaker 2: lineup ever in an A league match. Poney, no Louis Vstrata,

759
00:39:15,467 --> 00:39:18,947
Speaker 2: no Nando Pineke and o'sam Cosgrove, Jake Brimmer and Lachland

760
00:39:18,987 --> 00:39:22,107
Speaker 2: Brook both on the bench, and yet Auckland FC just

761
00:39:22,187 --> 00:39:25,467
Speaker 2: were not troubled at all. And Derek Max is another

762
00:39:25,507 --> 00:39:27,867
Speaker 2: very good point. Whoever comes into coach this team has

763
00:39:27,947 --> 00:39:34,947
Speaker 2: to intrinsically understand how important beating or at least competing

764
00:39:35,387 --> 00:39:41,427
Speaker 2: with Auckland f C is for Wellington Phoenix and Steve

765
00:39:41,507 --> 00:39:45,827
Speaker 2: Coricker understood the nature of rivalries when he arrived at

766
00:39:45,867 --> 00:39:48,107
Speaker 2: Auckland f C because he had been part of them

767
00:39:48,827 --> 00:39:54,747
Speaker 2: as Sydney FC coach when Western Sydney arrived very similar situation,

768
00:39:55,267 --> 00:40:00,507
Speaker 2: but in reverse. Sydney FC foundation a league club. Western

769
00:40:00,547 --> 00:40:04,467
Speaker 2: Sydney Wanderer's new boys on the block and they in

770
00:40:04,507 --> 00:40:07,907
Speaker 2: their first season were terrifically successful. In fact, one the

771
00:40:07,947 --> 00:40:11,987
Speaker 2: premiers played in their first season just as Auckland FC did.

772
00:40:13,107 --> 00:40:16,707
Speaker 2: Steve Coricker understood how important it was as a new

773
00:40:16,787 --> 00:40:21,747
Speaker 2: club coming in that you had to establish at least

774
00:40:21,827 --> 00:40:26,547
Speaker 2: parity with your established rival. Well goodness me, it hasn't

775
00:40:26,587 --> 00:40:29,747
Speaker 2: just been parity, it's been utter domination. Whoever takes over

776
00:40:29,787 --> 00:40:37,987
Speaker 2: at Wellington Phoenix must intrinsically, consciously, vigorously enthusiastically realized that

777
00:40:39,107 --> 00:40:40,747
Speaker 2: seven to one US TALKSB.

778
00:40:41,227 --> 00:40:44,947
Speaker 1: When there's a mind call, it's your call. Weekend Sport

779
00:40:45,307 --> 00:40:48,027
Speaker 1: with Jason Fine, News TALKSV.

780
00:40:48,827 --> 00:40:51,627
Speaker 2: News Talks four to one. Final text here from Ken

781
00:40:51,667 --> 00:40:54,107
Speaker 2: Get Jason Proud Jaffer but used to support the Phoenix

782
00:40:54,107 --> 00:40:56,107
Speaker 2: in the past when we had no Auckland FC, but

783
00:40:56,147 --> 00:40:57,867
Speaker 2: became less of a fan due to John Callo. We're

784
00:40:57,867 --> 00:41:01,067
Speaker 2: telling those comments putting down Auckland FC and Auckland in general.

785
00:41:01,467 --> 00:41:04,867
Speaker 2: As captain had more humility and respect for good teams.

786
00:41:05,027 --> 00:41:06,907
Speaker 2: I wish the new coaching team all best for the

787
00:41:06,907 --> 00:41:09,347
Speaker 2: rest of the season and I hope to support both

788
00:41:09,347 --> 00:41:11,947
Speaker 2: teams moving forward. Always have a bit of friendly banter

789
00:41:11,987 --> 00:41:15,147
Speaker 2: when it comes to Darby's ahead of Auckland v Wellington

790
00:41:15,507 --> 00:41:19,747
Speaker 2: up New Zealand soccer against the evil Australians. Good on you, Ken.

791
00:41:20,147 --> 00:41:22,627
Speaker 2: I think we all would accept that we need the

792
00:41:22,627 --> 00:41:25,987
Speaker 2: Phoenix to be strong in the A League. Even Auckland

793
00:41:26,027 --> 00:41:28,787
Speaker 2: FC fans in their heart of hearts will say that.

794
00:41:30,267 --> 00:41:35,147
Speaker 2: And let's hope that Auckland FC's continued existence in the

795
00:41:35,187 --> 00:41:39,307
Speaker 2: tournament and success helps to lift the Phoenix. We'll switch

796
00:41:39,347 --> 00:41:41,827
Speaker 2: to Super Rugby after one.

797
00:41:41,827 --> 00:41:44,627
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports.

798
00:41:44,267 --> 00:41:45,027
Speaker 11: Issues on.

799
00:41:46,827 --> 00:41:47,747
Speaker 12: Head off the field.

800
00:41:48,027 --> 00:41:50,787
Speaker 1: Got a score enough, It's all on Weekend Sport with

801
00:41:50,987 --> 00:41:55,067
Speaker 1: Jason Vine on your home of Sports News TALKSFV.

802
00:41:56,547 --> 00:41:59,347
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome into Weekend Sport. Welcome back to Weekend Sport,

803
00:41:59,347 --> 00:42:01,547
Speaker 2: Thanks for your company. I'm Jason Pine and McDonald is

804
00:42:01,587 --> 00:42:04,347
Speaker 2: running the cut up seven past one. We're here tall three.

805
00:42:04,507 --> 00:42:09,387
Speaker 2: Rugby is a major focus shortly Super Rugby, the Chiefs

806
00:42:09,387 --> 00:42:12,947
Speaker 2: two from two. The Highlanders though a good account last

807
00:42:12,987 --> 00:42:15,307
Speaker 2: night under the roof, just small moments perhaps in that

808
00:42:15,347 --> 00:42:21,067
Speaker 2: game that they didn't win and the Chiefs did. Brendan

809
00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:23,187
Speaker 2: Laney was in the commentary box for US last night

810
00:42:23,187 --> 00:42:26,867
Speaker 2: alongside Paul Allison. What a duo. Brendan Laney going to

811
00:42:26,947 --> 00:42:30,107
Speaker 2: join us shortly with his review of the game and

812
00:42:30,587 --> 00:42:33,747
Speaker 2: also just what he predicts for the Highlanders this season.

813
00:42:34,747 --> 00:42:37,747
Speaker 2: He'll be I guess pretty happy too about his former

814
00:42:37,787 --> 00:42:42,187
Speaker 2: team Scotland, his former international team getting up over Wales

815
00:42:42,227 --> 00:42:44,987
Speaker 2: this morning. Just I think Wales led that game for

816
00:42:45,227 --> 00:42:49,507
Speaker 2: seventy five minutes, did I read? Before Scotland finally got there,

817
00:42:50,347 --> 00:42:54,707
Speaker 2: consigning Wales to another loss. But even more remarkably, England,

818
00:42:55,307 --> 00:42:57,587
Speaker 2: who lost to Scotland last week, had lost again after

819
00:42:57,627 --> 00:43:02,467
Speaker 2: a twelve game winning streak. Consecutive defeats for England, this

820
00:43:02,627 --> 00:43:05,707
Speaker 2: time to Ireland, and it was, as I understand it anyway,

821
00:43:06,467 --> 00:43:10,227
Speaker 2: pretty me cold performance from England. James Burridge out of

822
00:43:10,227 --> 00:43:12,507
Speaker 2: the BBC going and join us on that. James mcconey

823
00:43:12,587 --> 00:43:15,227
Speaker 2: as well in his regular slot on a Sunday to

824
00:43:15,267 --> 00:43:21,507
Speaker 2: discuss various sporting matters. Your opinions and views and thoughts

825
00:43:22,307 --> 00:43:24,627
Speaker 2: observations continue to be welcome. Oh eight one hundred and

826
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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty's Our phone number ninety two ninety two

827
00:43:27,827 --> 00:43:30,187
Speaker 2: is the text line and you can send your emails

828
00:43:30,267 --> 00:43:32,827
Speaker 2: to Jason at newstalk set B dot co dot nz.

829
00:43:32,987 --> 00:43:35,587
Speaker 2: Just updating live Sport fort Trophy Grand Final at the

830
00:43:35,627 --> 00:43:38,747
Speaker 2: Base in Reserve, Canterbury. Looking to build a big big

831
00:43:38,747 --> 00:43:41,187
Speaker 2: totals you heard from Elliot and our sports news Henry

832
00:43:41,227 --> 00:43:43,947
Speaker 2: Nichols with another one hundred for the season now is

833
00:43:43,987 --> 00:43:48,187
Speaker 2: out for one hundred and fifteen. The Canterbury captain Tom

834
00:43:48,267 --> 00:43:51,587
Speaker 2: Latham is still there on seventy six. Rhys Martiu has

835
00:43:51,667 --> 00:43:55,267
Speaker 2: joined him. He's unbeaten on nineteen in the thirty ninth

836
00:43:55,307 --> 00:43:59,587
Speaker 2: over Canterbury two twenty four for two. So they could

837
00:43:59,587 --> 00:44:02,107
Speaker 2: get three fifty. Yep. Central got that the other day

838
00:44:02,107 --> 00:44:05,067
Speaker 2: though against Wellington, so they won't be they won't be

839
00:44:05,507 --> 00:44:07,427
Speaker 2: overly concealed and I think they'd probably want to keep

840
00:44:07,467 --> 00:44:09,947
Speaker 2: it under three fifty, but we'll keep eyes on that

841
00:44:09,987 --> 00:44:11,987
Speaker 2: for you. The final eleven or twelve hovers of that

842
00:44:12,067 --> 00:44:17,187
Speaker 2: game at the Basin Reserve, the Chiefs two from two

843
00:44:17,467 --> 00:44:19,507
Speaker 2: to open their Super Rugby season.

844
00:44:20,347 --> 00:44:25,187
Speaker 13: Lennox acrossfield, Patatower, He's found space. Here's the try coming out?

845
00:44:25,227 --> 00:44:28,107
Speaker 13: Why and the man that wills caught? Will you ever Finny?

846
00:44:28,387 --> 00:44:30,387
Speaker 2: The Sanger scores a try.

847
00:44:30,147 --> 00:44:34,027
Speaker 13: For the highlandless how little too little, too late, but

848
00:44:34,627 --> 00:44:36,467
Speaker 13: the Highlanders getting the bonus.

849
00:44:36,067 --> 00:44:39,787
Speaker 8: Point, the sing against the try and the Highlands closing

850
00:44:39,907 --> 00:44:40,787
Speaker 8: up to twenty six.

851
00:44:40,747 --> 00:44:43,787
Speaker 2: Twenty three and that was the final score, the Chiefs

852
00:44:43,827 --> 00:44:48,267
Speaker 2: winning twenty six twenty three in Dunedin. Former Otago Highlanders

853
00:44:48,427 --> 00:44:52,707
Speaker 2: and Scotland international Brendan Laney provided expert comments for US

854
00:44:52,707 --> 00:44:56,147
Speaker 2: on our radio call last night alongside Paul Allison. How

855
00:44:56,187 --> 00:44:57,987
Speaker 2: did you get a worden, Brendan.

856
00:45:00,467 --> 00:45:03,107
Speaker 14: Brilliant made? It was an extorting game though I'll see

857
00:45:03,187 --> 00:45:06,587
Speaker 14: what it was. It was certainly a game that's both

858
00:45:06,627 --> 00:45:08,507
Speaker 14: teams went out there and through the boar end and

859
00:45:09,267 --> 00:45:12,667
Speaker 14: and made. Paul's a great man. I've known Paul a

860
00:45:12,707 --> 00:45:18,107
Speaker 14: long long time and I've always enjoyed working with them.

861
00:45:18,107 --> 00:45:20,787
Speaker 14: But yep, not very cool. I can work on that.

862
00:45:21,267 --> 00:45:23,507
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, I know it wasn't a slide

863
00:45:23,507 --> 00:45:25,307
Speaker 2: on you I listened to the commentary actually as I

864
00:45:25,387 --> 00:45:28,507
Speaker 2: was driving away from the Phoenix game yesterday and greatly

865
00:45:28,587 --> 00:45:31,107
Speaker 2: enjoyed the chemistry between the two of you. So well done, mate,

866
00:45:31,147 --> 00:45:35,747
Speaker 2: long mate may continue. Here's a great man. Hey, tight contest, Brendan.

867
00:45:36,507 --> 00:45:38,187
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think the right team won

868
00:45:38,347 --> 00:45:40,627
Speaker 2: in the end? You think the Chiefs just about each did?

869
00:45:41,827 --> 00:45:41,987
Speaker 5: Oh?

870
00:45:42,067 --> 00:45:44,507
Speaker 14: Look, I think when they got to twenty six sixteen

871
00:45:44,667 --> 00:45:48,827
Speaker 14: they probably were just playing a little bit bit of rugby.

872
00:45:49,027 --> 00:45:51,227
Speaker 14: But you've got by the way the holda's compassing it,

873
00:45:52,867 --> 00:45:55,987
Speaker 14: you know, they But I think that there was a

874
00:45:56,027 --> 00:45:58,267
Speaker 14: couple of week things that probably went against the holders

875
00:45:58,307 --> 00:46:01,547
Speaker 14: of a couple week calls, maybe a week forward pass,

876
00:46:01,747 --> 00:46:04,827
Speaker 14: maybe you can go back and probably picked five or

877
00:46:04,907 --> 00:46:07,747
Speaker 14: six different things. But I think there was a lot

878
00:46:07,787 --> 00:46:09,627
Speaker 14: of ball kicked away from the hondas, a couple of

879
00:46:09,747 --> 00:46:13,547
Speaker 14: chip kicks that probably went necessary. And because the way

880
00:46:13,587 --> 00:46:16,427
Speaker 14: they we're playing the game, they're actually trying to move

881
00:46:16,467 --> 00:46:19,227
Speaker 14: the ball around, and they did it really well. They

882
00:46:19,227 --> 00:46:21,787
Speaker 14: did it well against it because shows a week before.

883
00:46:21,867 --> 00:46:23,867
Speaker 14: But I think it was just a few mistakes that

884
00:46:23,947 --> 00:46:27,027
Speaker 14: probably cost them. And look, they're playing a team that's

885
00:46:27,347 --> 00:46:30,347
Speaker 14: pretty heady now that chief side that we probably disappointed

886
00:46:30,347 --> 00:46:32,067
Speaker 14: with a couple of things that didn't go their way

887
00:46:32,147 --> 00:46:35,227
Speaker 14: last night, although they had tried a couple of things

888
00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:38,747
Speaker 14: that probably didn't quite work. But I think they were patient.

889
00:46:38,907 --> 00:46:40,907
Speaker 14: I think some of the bigger players they don't think

890
00:46:41,187 --> 00:46:46,187
Speaker 14: Kellen Bocher was really good, and let Jacison again just

891
00:46:46,387 --> 00:46:49,867
Speaker 14: as another eighty minutes a hard draft, and then of

892
00:46:49,867 --> 00:46:52,547
Speaker 14: course you get there all black Locks playing the way

893
00:46:52,547 --> 00:46:55,747
Speaker 14: they did well. I must think the full pack probably

894
00:46:55,787 --> 00:46:57,427
Speaker 14: just had a little bit of an edge at the end.

895
00:46:58,187 --> 00:46:59,947
Speaker 2: You talk about moments in a game, and there was

896
00:46:59,947 --> 00:47:04,867
Speaker 2: that moment before halftime Sean Way nearly scores and then

897
00:47:04,907 --> 00:47:07,147
Speaker 2: Quinta Pie picks it up, takes a quote drop out,

898
00:47:07,227 --> 00:47:09,987
Speaker 2: and then Leroy Carter scores down the other end. You know,

899
00:47:10,667 --> 00:47:13,227
Speaker 2: it's almost like a I guess a fourteen point swing.

900
00:47:13,267 --> 00:47:15,667
Speaker 2: Whether he scores, it's a try and all of a

901
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:18,307
Speaker 2: suddenly down the other end. How big a moment is

902
00:47:18,347 --> 00:47:20,587
Speaker 2: that in a game that ended up being so tight.

903
00:47:21,547 --> 00:47:24,027
Speaker 14: Well, then it was a big moment, wasn't it. It looks

904
00:47:24,227 --> 00:47:25,907
Speaker 14: if Sean whether he had taken it, it would have

905
00:47:25,947 --> 00:47:29,187
Speaker 14: been probably the try of the year. It wouldn't have

906
00:47:29,187 --> 00:47:31,507
Speaker 14: been many better like it would have been an outstanding

907
00:47:31,547 --> 00:47:33,907
Speaker 14: try if he'd scored it. One thing I'd have to

908
00:47:33,907 --> 00:47:37,387
Speaker 14: say before carea, he was outstanding last night, whether he

909
00:47:37,547 --> 00:47:39,827
Speaker 14: just he is a guy that doesn't put his hand

910
00:47:39,867 --> 00:47:41,947
Speaker 14: up and say look at me. He just gets on

911
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:43,747
Speaker 14: and does his work. And he did it so well

912
00:47:43,827 --> 00:47:46,187
Speaker 14: last night. And I watched him one part of it

913
00:47:46,227 --> 00:47:48,067
Speaker 14: and it was about the seventy ninth minute he was

914
00:47:48,067 --> 00:47:51,107
Speaker 14: pulling himself off the ground looking for another tackle. I

915
00:47:51,107 --> 00:47:54,027
Speaker 14: thought he was magnificent. But you know, he's also got

916
00:47:54,027 --> 00:47:56,427
Speaker 14: to put it back to what the Chiefs did. They

917
00:47:56,507 --> 00:48:01,427
Speaker 14: found the holders napping away bit they took the quick dropout.

918
00:48:01,707 --> 00:48:04,147
Speaker 14: Now whether or not it was dropped out directly or not,

919
00:48:05,027 --> 00:48:09,387
Speaker 14: there's been a few replays, but it was quincentrapious quit

920
00:48:09,467 --> 00:48:13,427
Speaker 14: thinking in skill and the way he executed it. And

921
00:48:13,507 --> 00:48:16,827
Speaker 14: then of course you give Leroy Carlif five meters in

922
00:48:16,867 --> 00:48:18,947
Speaker 14: front of anyone, who's he's going to get beaten?

923
00:48:19,067 --> 00:48:19,307
Speaker 6: Does he?

924
00:48:19,427 --> 00:48:21,147
Speaker 14: So you've got them by the way the Chiefs turned

925
00:48:21,187 --> 00:48:25,027
Speaker 14: it around made that moment and that's what wins tight games,

926
00:48:25,107 --> 00:48:28,507
Speaker 14: doesn't it. Chris taking an opportunity. And it's one thing

927
00:48:28,547 --> 00:48:30,427
Speaker 14: that the Chease did really well, and I sort of

928
00:48:30,467 --> 00:48:32,627
Speaker 14: said it before the game with Paul, I said, you know,

929
00:48:32,707 --> 00:48:34,707
Speaker 14: this is going to be a game where the Teina

930
00:48:34,787 --> 00:48:37,067
Speaker 14: makes the least mistakes and takes their opportunities will win

931
00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:39,427
Speaker 14: this one. And this is pretty much what happened.

932
00:48:40,147 --> 00:48:43,107
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that little dropout. Yeah, a little bit of conjecture,

933
00:48:43,147 --> 00:48:45,027
Speaker 2: isn't it. Was it a grubber kick that he actually,

934
00:48:45,267 --> 00:48:47,147
Speaker 2: you know, take the drop out properly? I guess I

935
00:48:47,187 --> 00:48:49,627
Speaker 2: guess they kind to look at and decided it was okay.

936
00:48:49,707 --> 00:48:52,027
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that argument will continue for a

937
00:48:52,107 --> 00:48:56,667
Speaker 2: week while another righte catching try for Caleb Tungato. Man,

938
00:48:56,787 --> 00:48:58,387
Speaker 2: he looks like an he looks like an all black

939
00:48:58,427 --> 00:49:00,107
Speaker 2: to me, Brendan, I don't know what you think.

940
00:49:01,067 --> 00:49:03,707
Speaker 14: Yeah, I know it's to through that looks he's making

941
00:49:03,747 --> 00:49:07,067
Speaker 14: every opportunity or taking every opportunity and making them a winner,

942
00:49:07,187 --> 00:49:09,827
Speaker 14: isn't he. I just like the fact that he's he's

943
00:49:09,907 --> 00:49:13,347
Speaker 14: so quick. You just can't you know, it's a press pace,

944
00:49:13,427 --> 00:49:16,147
Speaker 14: you just can't. You can't train that. That's something you've

945
00:49:16,147 --> 00:49:19,347
Speaker 14: got that you haven't and and he has, and he's

946
00:49:19,827 --> 00:49:22,627
Speaker 14: he uses it really well. And when you've got a

947
00:49:22,667 --> 00:49:24,867
Speaker 14: player like that in your team. You really want to

948
00:49:24,867 --> 00:49:26,427
Speaker 14: get the ball and seen as much as you can

949
00:49:26,627 --> 00:49:29,707
Speaker 14: in space. But al like also the way he's getting

950
00:49:29,747 --> 00:49:31,387
Speaker 14: off his wing and looking for a bit of work too.

951
00:49:31,467 --> 00:49:33,947
Speaker 14: I think that's a really real big plus for him.

952
00:49:35,267 --> 00:49:38,027
Speaker 14: And I think also, you know, we're only really into

953
00:49:38,067 --> 00:49:41,507
Speaker 14: this competition too for the from purely from a Holds

954
00:49:41,547 --> 00:49:43,907
Speaker 14: point of view, you know, they they know that where

955
00:49:43,947 --> 00:49:46,347
Speaker 14: the streaks are, and you know they're still getting their

956
00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:49,147
Speaker 14: game going, and you know, I think I will see

957
00:49:49,227 --> 00:49:51,187
Speaker 14: more of the back three, and the recue was good again,

958
00:49:52,267 --> 00:49:53,987
Speaker 14: So I think their whole back three is he worked

959
00:49:54,067 --> 00:49:57,067
Speaker 14: really reasonably reasonably well and they just need a bit

960
00:49:57,107 --> 00:49:58,827
Speaker 14: more work on getting that ball and giving them some

961
00:49:58,987 --> 00:50:01,907
Speaker 14: space and then guys like Tanga tower with a bit

962
00:50:01,947 --> 00:50:04,027
Speaker 14: of space and then them go what.

963
00:50:04,067 --> 00:50:06,587
Speaker 2: About the Chiefs Brendan. I mean, that's two from two now.

964
00:50:06,787 --> 00:50:10,227
Speaker 2: They were perhaps slightly lucky last week with two boys

965
00:50:10,347 --> 00:50:12,387
Speaker 2: try you know, they said afterwards for a couple of

966
00:50:12,427 --> 00:50:13,987
Speaker 2: days later, hey shouldn't have been loud, but they still

967
00:50:13,987 --> 00:50:15,667
Speaker 2: won the game. They won the game last night, they

968
00:50:15,707 --> 00:50:17,627
Speaker 2: won the big moments. They want to type one. Do

969
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:19,387
Speaker 2: you feel like they're sitting in the early bench mark

970
00:50:19,627 --> 00:50:21,827
Speaker 2: or is it too early to tell after just two games.

971
00:50:22,827 --> 00:50:25,747
Speaker 14: No, no, no, no, definitely not. Look, they were always

972
00:50:25,787 --> 00:50:27,147
Speaker 14: going to be a bit of a bench back team.

973
00:50:27,387 --> 00:50:30,147
Speaker 14: They you know, you don't make finals and semi finals

974
00:50:30,267 --> 00:50:33,827
Speaker 14: that the way they have in the last three, four

975
00:50:33,867 --> 00:50:37,467
Speaker 14: or five seasons. They're a good outfort They were always

976
00:50:37,507 --> 00:50:41,347
Speaker 14: really well coached by Clayton McMillan. They got another good

977
00:50:41,427 --> 00:50:45,827
Speaker 14: coach here, Johnny Gibbs, and you can see the you know,

978
00:50:46,067 --> 00:50:48,187
Speaker 14: just the skill. Yeah. I think one part of my

979
00:50:48,187 --> 00:50:50,107
Speaker 14: account there was five ball blacks in the full pack

980
00:50:50,187 --> 00:50:54,067
Speaker 14: by the end of the game with killing Bosh. Here's

981
00:50:54,107 --> 00:50:57,227
Speaker 14: another outstanding football and wouldn't probably look at a place

982
00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:00,627
Speaker 14: and the break Gudy's even got his chance. So from

983
00:51:00,667 --> 00:51:04,107
Speaker 14: that point of view, in some of the tries they scored,

984
00:51:04,187 --> 00:51:06,107
Speaker 14: you know, they are a classy effort. When they get

985
00:51:06,147 --> 00:51:08,667
Speaker 14: gain looks, you'll they'll be We've been disappointed. We had

986
00:51:08,667 --> 00:51:10,387
Speaker 14: a couple of things in the game, but that's lots

987
00:51:10,387 --> 00:51:14,267
Speaker 14: of early season stuff and they'll be better for there.

988
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:17,667
Speaker 14: But good teams win close games too, and I think

989
00:51:17,707 --> 00:51:20,867
Speaker 14: we've seen that in previous years with Crusaders as well.

990
00:51:20,947 --> 00:51:22,707
Speaker 14: You know, they've had a couple of close games. Probably

991
00:51:22,787 --> 00:51:24,747
Speaker 14: haven't played as well as what they wanted to, but

992
00:51:24,827 --> 00:51:28,227
Speaker 14: they've come away and won games, and that's what championship

993
00:51:28,307 --> 00:51:30,747
Speaker 14: teams do. There's Chiefs are are always going to be

994
00:51:31,907 --> 00:51:35,867
Speaker 14: a tough start for anybody plan them. But I thought

995
00:51:35,907 --> 00:51:37,947
Speaker 14: the Hondas the way they got back into the game

996
00:51:38,067 --> 00:51:41,987
Speaker 14: last night, particularly the way they finished too, was really

997
00:51:42,027 --> 00:51:44,347
Speaker 14: exciting and the chance will be a wee bit disappointed

998
00:51:44,427 --> 00:51:47,907
Speaker 14: was hitting them in towards the India. So there's a

999
00:51:48,027 --> 00:51:50,947
Speaker 14: Chiefs of classy effort. So they'll be viewed thereabouts at

1000
00:51:50,947 --> 00:51:51,547
Speaker 14: the end for sure.

1001
00:51:52,227 --> 00:51:54,507
Speaker 2: So as Thehighlander is now prepare for the next game,

1002
00:51:54,547 --> 00:51:57,267
Speaker 2: which is in Brisbane on Friday night against the Reds,

1003
00:51:57,267 --> 00:51:59,827
Speaker 2: to have to buy this weekend if you're inside that

1004
00:51:59,987 --> 00:52:02,267
Speaker 2: that Highland is coaching team, are there any one or

1005
00:52:02,307 --> 00:52:05,267
Speaker 2: two things you look to really focus on ahead of

1006
00:52:05,307 --> 00:52:06,987
Speaker 2: the game against the Reds Friday night?

1007
00:52:07,987 --> 00:52:10,387
Speaker 14: I'd don't find some with warn to train because it's

1008
00:52:10,427 --> 00:52:15,707
Speaker 14: going to be hot in Brisbane. Where they find out,

1009
00:52:15,747 --> 00:52:18,347
Speaker 14: I don't know, but she's going to be a different

1010
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:20,907
Speaker 14: keel of fish over there. I tell you, and the boys,

1011
00:52:20,987 --> 00:52:24,427
Speaker 14: we be losing some gravy. Look, I think it's just

1012
00:52:24,547 --> 00:52:26,547
Speaker 14: the little things that they need to get to get

1013
00:52:26,627 --> 00:52:29,587
Speaker 14: being on. I really admired the way they were moving

1014
00:52:29,627 --> 00:52:31,387
Speaker 14: the ball and they tried to get the ball into space.

1015
00:52:31,467 --> 00:52:33,307
Speaker 14: You can see they're doing that now. They tried to

1016
00:52:33,907 --> 00:52:37,547
Speaker 14: shift the ball. We heard when was talking to Goldie

1017
00:52:37,547 --> 00:52:39,307
Speaker 14: after the game, just saying, you know, which want to

1018
00:52:39,347 --> 00:52:44,067
Speaker 14: move the ball. Those things there came with practice, you know,

1019
00:52:44,347 --> 00:52:48,627
Speaker 14: end game situations. So I hope they continue to do that.

1020
00:52:49,547 --> 00:52:51,307
Speaker 14: The one thing we saw with the Reds last year

1021
00:52:51,347 --> 00:52:53,547
Speaker 14: they liked to move the ball around as well. So

1022
00:52:53,707 --> 00:52:55,747
Speaker 14: there's going to be a I think a sort of

1023
00:52:55,827 --> 00:52:59,987
Speaker 14: decent scoring game next week, and I just hope that

1024
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:02,707
Speaker 14: they stick at it because if we're like I said earlier,

1025
00:53:02,707 --> 00:53:05,987
Speaker 14: if we get these boys like tongue a tear like

1026
00:53:06,427 --> 00:53:08,987
Speaker 14: Ricky with ball in hand, they can be really dangerous.

1027
00:53:09,107 --> 00:53:12,187
Speaker 14: So and also like the way the Honda has brought

1028
00:53:12,227 --> 00:53:14,147
Speaker 14: some guys off the bench. I thought to Lee was

1029
00:53:14,187 --> 00:53:16,307
Speaker 14: really good when he when he came on as well.

1030
00:53:17,067 --> 00:53:19,867
Speaker 14: So yeah, this does look they'll be disappointed in a

1031
00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:22,347
Speaker 14: couple of things, but they've got six seven days up

1032
00:53:22,387 --> 00:53:24,947
Speaker 14: the sleeve or six days up this sleeve to get

1033
00:53:24,987 --> 00:53:27,787
Speaker 14: some training and get over the getting the heat and

1034
00:53:27,947 --> 00:53:30,947
Speaker 14: enjoy it. So I'm actually really looking forward to that game.

1035
00:53:30,947 --> 00:53:31,787
Speaker 14: I think it'll be a cracker.

1036
00:53:32,227 --> 00:53:34,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Met So the big elephant in the

1037
00:53:34,507 --> 00:53:37,747
Speaker 2: Islanders room, obviously, Brendan, is the fact that Jamie Josephson

1038
00:53:37,947 --> 00:53:41,227
Speaker 2: in the running is as possibly taking over as All

1039
00:53:41,227 --> 00:53:44,107
Speaker 2: Black Sea coaches. How do you reckon that dynamic will

1040
00:53:44,147 --> 00:53:46,227
Speaker 2: be playing out internally? I mean, if you're a player

1041
00:53:46,267 --> 00:53:48,267
Speaker 2: and you know your coaches has also got you know,

1042
00:53:48,307 --> 00:53:49,787
Speaker 2: half a nine on the All Black's job, or if

1043
00:53:49,787 --> 00:53:51,627
Speaker 2: you're in that coaching team, how do you reckon it's

1044
00:53:51,667 --> 00:53:54,507
Speaker 2: playing out internally? You know Jamie Joseph a little bit

1045
00:53:54,547 --> 00:53:56,347
Speaker 2: as well, how do you reckon he'll be handling it?

1046
00:53:57,827 --> 00:54:01,027
Speaker 14: Look, I think look, we're all honestly are they Well,

1047
00:54:01,187 --> 00:54:02,747
Speaker 14: we all understand what's going on.

1048
00:54:02,907 --> 00:54:03,347
Speaker 6: I think.

1049
00:54:04,787 --> 00:54:06,667
Speaker 14: The way things have been handled up the time has

1050
00:54:06,707 --> 00:54:10,347
Speaker 14: been pretty messy by everyone, and it's still a bit

1051
00:54:10,387 --> 00:54:12,907
Speaker 14: bit messy because we sort of know we're closer, really,

1052
00:54:14,667 --> 00:54:17,387
Speaker 14: and I think there's probably some assistant coaches in the

1053
00:54:17,427 --> 00:54:20,107
Speaker 14: Albacks sitting there thinking what's going on? And I'm going

1054
00:54:20,147 --> 00:54:23,987
Speaker 14: to have a job in six eighteen weeks. So yeah,

1055
00:54:24,187 --> 00:54:26,067
Speaker 14: I loot it from a player point of view and

1056
00:54:26,227 --> 00:54:29,307
Speaker 14: involved in the holders. I think there's a few guys

1057
00:54:29,307 --> 00:54:32,587
Speaker 14: who are probably involved in in the honders that the

1058
00:54:32,667 --> 00:54:34,747
Speaker 14: only thing they can control is going out and playing

1059
00:54:34,787 --> 00:54:38,627
Speaker 14: good rugby and you know, getting pricked in ripped teams

1060
00:54:38,707 --> 00:54:41,427
Speaker 14: and well that's up to selectors and all that sort

1061
00:54:41,427 --> 00:54:43,347
Speaker 14: of thing. It would be a bonus for them if

1062
00:54:43,427 --> 00:54:47,667
Speaker 14: Jake Jake got the job. And you know, well, once again,

1063
00:54:47,707 --> 00:54:50,867
Speaker 14: if they're doing the right thing and playing well and

1064
00:54:50,947 --> 00:54:53,667
Speaker 14: putting their hand up and look, Jamie's a guy who

1065
00:54:53,827 --> 00:54:56,947
Speaker 14: likes guys to whip the tail off and not just

1066
00:54:57,107 --> 00:54:58,787
Speaker 14: on the ball, it's offs the ball as well. So

1067
00:55:00,627 --> 00:55:03,267
Speaker 14: I think from purely from a player point of view,

1068
00:55:03,267 --> 00:55:05,187
Speaker 14: they's got to concentrate on doing what they can do

1069
00:55:05,307 --> 00:55:07,867
Speaker 14: and what they can control next playing the footy and

1070
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:11,987
Speaker 14: and you know, whatever the Rugby Union does, I think

1071
00:55:12,027 --> 00:55:14,507
Speaker 14: it paid enough to answer that one. But whatever they

1072
00:55:14,907 --> 00:55:17,547
Speaker 14: whatever they make, twist, whatever they which way they go,

1073
00:55:18,827 --> 00:55:20,987
Speaker 14: as long as the boys are playing well and doing

1074
00:55:21,027 --> 00:55:22,387
Speaker 14: the thing, putting the head up with that's all they

1075
00:55:22,427 --> 00:55:22,667
Speaker 14: can do.

1076
00:55:23,427 --> 00:55:26,347
Speaker 2: Indeed. So obviously keep an eye on your former Highlanders team,

1077
00:55:26,347 --> 00:55:27,827
Speaker 2: You're keeping an eye on your former Scotland team.

1078
00:55:27,827 --> 00:55:28,067
Speaker 12: As well.

1079
00:55:28,067 --> 00:55:30,627
Speaker 2: They got home against Wales just just this morning.

1080
00:55:31,067 --> 00:55:34,707
Speaker 14: No, no, look when you watch the watch the England

1081
00:55:34,747 --> 00:55:38,467
Speaker 14: game the week before, I'll be really honest, I didn't

1082
00:55:38,467 --> 00:55:41,307
Speaker 14: think they'd get up against England. My thoughts after the

1083
00:55:41,387 --> 00:55:45,947
Speaker 14: Italian game they were, They weren't great. I think we've

1084
00:55:45,987 --> 00:55:49,107
Speaker 14: seen the Scottish side that's as she placed Aga outstanding

1085
00:55:49,187 --> 00:55:51,587
Speaker 14: raven the last four or five years Undergrigga, Like you

1086
00:55:51,627 --> 00:55:54,387
Speaker 14: can see, he's more and young guys. They've worked really

1087
00:55:54,427 --> 00:55:57,267
Speaker 14: hard for each other. They player a really nice experience

1088
00:55:57,307 --> 00:55:59,347
Speaker 14: of game of rugby. He's got a four pick that

1089
00:55:59,427 --> 00:56:01,507
Speaker 14: aren't huge, but gee, they went well off the ball

1090
00:56:02,307 --> 00:56:05,707
Speaker 14: and against Italy they were nowhere near where they're where

1091
00:56:05,747 --> 00:56:08,867
Speaker 14: they needed to and they obviously went away, had a

1092
00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:13,027
Speaker 14: week and the cal cutting up game against England at

1093
00:56:13,107 --> 00:56:15,307
Speaker 14: home at Murrayfield is probably the biggest game of the

1094
00:56:15,387 --> 00:56:19,707
Speaker 14: year if it's not at Twickenham. It's the biggest game

1095
00:56:19,787 --> 00:56:22,387
Speaker 14: for any rugby player in a Scottish duty and I

1096
00:56:22,507 --> 00:56:25,827
Speaker 14: know how much passion goes into it and so for

1097
00:56:25,907 --> 00:56:28,587
Speaker 14: them to win at home what they did was fantastic,

1098
00:56:28,667 --> 00:56:31,507
Speaker 14: but it was also the score thirty odd points in

1099
00:56:31,587 --> 00:56:35,227
Speaker 14: a in a six Nations game against England was brilliant

1100
00:56:35,267 --> 00:56:37,507
Speaker 14: and a cal Cutter Cup game, just huge. But then

1101
00:56:37,587 --> 00:56:39,627
Speaker 14: to go down to Wales, who and let's be honest,

1102
00:56:39,707 --> 00:56:43,827
Speaker 14: no disrespect, the worlds have been pretty average, you know

1103
00:56:43,947 --> 00:56:46,627
Speaker 14: that was that was a wee bit fury this morning.

1104
00:56:46,667 --> 00:56:49,067
Speaker 14: And okay, there was a couple of strange tries scored,

1105
00:56:49,787 --> 00:56:54,827
Speaker 14: particularly Darcy Troy and and you know they did really

1106
00:56:54,867 --> 00:56:59,627
Speaker 14: well Wales too to probably not put Scotland and Scottish

1107
00:56:59,747 --> 00:57:03,027
Speaker 14: the Scottish boys to get in. So but there's six nations.

1108
00:57:03,547 --> 00:57:05,107
Speaker 14: It's a funny game. You know, you can have a

1109
00:57:05,147 --> 00:57:10,307
Speaker 14: week two weeks off now your regroup and you know,

1110
00:57:10,587 --> 00:57:13,147
Speaker 14: particularly from the West point of view, they really needed

1111
00:57:13,187 --> 00:57:14,747
Speaker 14: a game like that, to be sure, and I'll probably

1112
00:57:14,787 --> 00:57:17,827
Speaker 14: but unlucky not to want it so great for Slin

1113
00:57:18,627 --> 00:57:21,067
Speaker 14: and then of course the Oris kid up and beat him.

1114
00:57:21,147 --> 00:57:23,427
Speaker 14: They didn't just get up there to really whooped them.

1115
00:57:23,587 --> 00:57:25,467
Speaker 14: So and I'm not crying in my week picks about

1116
00:57:25,467 --> 00:57:30,427
Speaker 14: that one. Yeah, yeah, I was quite right with it.

1117
00:57:31,107 --> 00:57:32,747
Speaker 14: My wife woke me up, so you won't believe it.

1118
00:57:33,827 --> 00:57:36,627
Speaker 14: You alas beat them by forty points. We really so

1119
00:57:37,547 --> 00:57:39,867
Speaker 14: you know, that's that's how good the sixth nation is

1120
00:57:39,947 --> 00:57:43,147
Speaker 14: it's for such an old tournament, it still brings some

1121
00:57:43,867 --> 00:57:47,107
Speaker 14: magnificent performances and games too, so it makes makes great

1122
00:57:47,147 --> 00:57:48,387
Speaker 14: to watch certainly.

1123
00:57:48,707 --> 00:57:50,587
Speaker 2: Just while we've been chatting, Brennan, I've got a text

1124
00:57:50,587 --> 00:57:55,347
Speaker 2: air Piney you forgot to mention Brendan's Timuka rugby club heritage.

1125
00:57:55,787 --> 00:57:57,867
Speaker 2: Shame on you. I was going to mention your your

1126
00:57:58,787 --> 00:58:00,307
Speaker 2: Tomuka roots as well.

1127
00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:03,707
Speaker 14: Mate, Yeah, yeahs, yeah as well. We hit one hundred

1128
00:58:03,707 --> 00:58:07,187
Speaker 14: and fiftieth last year and for Tomoga, which is which

1129
00:58:07,307 --> 00:58:10,507
Speaker 14: is fantastic for any club really, but one hundred and

1130
00:58:10,507 --> 00:58:12,587
Speaker 14: fifty years in club rugby at the moment it's a

1131
00:58:12,667 --> 00:58:14,507
Speaker 14: mess of feet. And it was just it was an

1132
00:58:14,507 --> 00:58:17,467
Speaker 14: awesome week in too, a week with a head someone

1133
00:58:17,507 --> 00:58:21,587
Speaker 14: that come around the Monday, so very humpty Wallett. So

1134
00:58:21,947 --> 00:58:23,827
Speaker 14: now it was great fun and then yeah, you're right,

1135
00:58:24,107 --> 00:58:26,587
Speaker 14: that's where I started when I was under teens. Say

1136
00:58:27,627 --> 00:58:29,947
Speaker 14: your pretty cool week club good man.

1137
00:58:30,027 --> 00:58:30,307
Speaker 6: Brendan.

1138
00:58:30,347 --> 00:58:32,027
Speaker 2: Hey, you love your commentary last night, mate. Thanks for

1139
00:58:32,107 --> 00:58:33,307
Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon as well.

1140
00:58:34,107 --> 00:58:35,467
Speaker 14: Thanks Boornie, you have a great weekend.

1141
00:58:35,787 --> 00:58:38,227
Speaker 2: You have a great weekend too, mate, Brendan. Lady joining

1142
00:58:38,307 --> 00:58:39,667
Speaker 2: us there the one and only g He's got some

1143
00:58:39,707 --> 00:58:40,467
Speaker 2: great views, hasn't he?

1144
00:58:40,507 --> 00:58:40,747
Speaker 6: Ays?

1145
00:58:40,787 --> 00:58:42,347
Speaker 2: But of humor thrown in there as well. He was

1146
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:44,827
Speaker 2: in the combox last night with Paul Allison as they

1147
00:58:44,947 --> 00:58:48,427
Speaker 2: called the Highlanders narrow loss to the Chiefs. The Blues

1148
00:58:48,427 --> 00:58:51,707
Speaker 2: got home last night late against the Force. This afternoon

1149
00:58:51,827 --> 00:58:55,867
Speaker 2: three thirty five in christ Church afternoon Super Rugby as

1150
00:58:56,147 --> 00:58:58,867
Speaker 2: the Crusaders will take on the Brumby's. That's a three

1151
00:58:58,987 --> 00:59:01,227
Speaker 2: thirty five kickoff in an hour or so. We'll catch

1152
00:59:01,267 --> 00:59:04,107
Speaker 2: up with Nick Beorley, match caller to set the scene

1153
00:59:04,147 --> 00:59:05,907
Speaker 2: for that one. I see there's already been and Elliott

1154
00:59:05,907 --> 00:59:08,387
Speaker 2: mentioned this and the Sports News at the top of

1155
00:59:08,427 --> 00:59:11,627
Speaker 2: the hour, didn't he a blow to the Crusaders rivers.

1156
00:59:11,707 --> 00:59:14,867
Speaker 2: Raehan has been ruled out an adductor injury which he

1157
00:59:14,907 --> 00:59:16,547
Speaker 2: suffered at training. But not a bad guy to come

1158
00:59:16,587 --> 00:59:19,947
Speaker 2: off the bench, Tahakema. We'll start at ten James White

1159
00:59:20,427 --> 00:59:24,347
Speaker 2: a possible debut off the bench for the Crusaders. One

1160
00:59:24,507 --> 00:59:26,947
Speaker 2: twenty five. Well, we talked a bit about six nations

1161
00:59:26,987 --> 00:59:30,267
Speaker 2: there with Brendan Laney. We'll get to the UK. James Burridge.

1162
00:59:31,227 --> 00:59:34,027
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he'll take our call. Being the proud

1163
00:59:34,067 --> 00:59:35,787
Speaker 2: Englishman that he is. We'll give it a crack and

1164
00:59:35,907 --> 00:59:38,307
Speaker 2: talk some Six Nations when we come back here on

1165
00:59:38,387 --> 00:59:39,027
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport.

1166
00:59:39,507 --> 00:59:43,387
Speaker 1: We're the weekend's biggest calls for me. Weekend Sport with

1167
00:59:43,667 --> 00:59:48,787
Speaker 1: Jason Pine and GJ Gardnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder, News.

1168
00:59:48,667 --> 00:59:52,387
Speaker 2: Talks B, News Talks B and Weekend Sport well as

1169
00:59:52,467 --> 00:59:55,627
Speaker 2: we just chatted about with Brendan Laney. Wales as wretched

1170
00:59:55,747 --> 00:59:59,107
Speaker 2: run in Six Nations rugby has continued, but they got

1171
00:59:59,187 --> 01:00:02,987
Speaker 2: closed losing twenty six twenty three to Scotland in Cardiff.

1172
01:00:03,027 --> 01:00:06,187
Speaker 2: It's their fourteenth Six Nations loss in a row.

1173
01:00:06,747 --> 01:00:09,867
Speaker 15: There's always a surprise, there's regularly a sting in the

1174
01:00:09,987 --> 01:00:14,587
Speaker 15: tail and here we are again, six minutes left Forecorn

1175
01:00:14,747 --> 01:00:16,627
Speaker 15: came no more.

1176
01:00:17,987 --> 01:00:21,707
Speaker 2: Scotland hit the front with the mucular time.

1177
01:00:21,787 --> 01:00:25,027
Speaker 6: If we're on the rounds.

1178
01:00:24,307 --> 01:00:29,427
Speaker 15: And Scotland's have snatched victory from the jobs of Defeast.

1179
01:00:29,667 --> 01:00:33,867
Speaker 15: More heartbreak for Wales, but heartbreak you feel that a

1180
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:35,467
Speaker 15: foundation can be built on.

1181
01:00:35,787 --> 01:00:37,627
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that will be the case for a while.

1182
01:00:37,707 --> 01:00:39,827
Speaker 2: So Scotland got to the top of the Six Nations

1183
01:00:39,947 --> 01:00:44,427
Speaker 2: table for now. England meantime suffering back to back defeats

1184
01:00:44,947 --> 01:00:49,587
Speaker 2: thumped forty two twenty one by Ireland at Twickenham.

1185
01:00:49,667 --> 01:00:52,987
Speaker 16: Real confidence and freedom nine huge numbers on the right

1186
01:00:53,067 --> 01:01:01,347
Speaker 16: hand side. Todd Burn, Osborne day Stores and like Ala

1187
01:01:01,547 --> 01:01:06,347
Speaker 16: Toonder's Island have squeezed the life.

1188
01:01:07,707 --> 01:01:11,067
Speaker 2: In the home grown YEA, what I went for Ireland?

1189
01:01:11,147 --> 01:01:14,427
Speaker 2: What a defeat for England? James Burrage as with us

1190
01:01:14,427 --> 01:01:18,067
Speaker 2: from the BBC. I'm actually mildly surprised that you've taken

1191
01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:19,587
Speaker 2: my call, James.

1192
01:01:20,227 --> 01:01:24,067
Speaker 17: I think we're very lucky that I have actually picked

1193
01:01:24,147 --> 01:01:28,867
Speaker 17: up the phone, because you've got me prepping stil for

1194
01:01:28,987 --> 01:01:33,347
Speaker 17: Italy France tomorrow, so knee deep in research. I see

1195
01:01:33,387 --> 01:01:34,907
Speaker 17: your How can I refuse you?

1196
01:01:35,027 --> 01:01:35,307
Speaker 5: Piney?

1197
01:01:35,387 --> 01:01:36,947
Speaker 17: How can I refuse to your call?

1198
01:01:37,107 --> 01:01:37,307
Speaker 12: Well?

1199
01:01:37,387 --> 01:01:40,827
Speaker 2: It is it's great to cheer too. Forty two twenty one,

1200
01:01:41,067 --> 01:01:44,827
Speaker 2: Ireland over England at Twickenham. What was the story of

1201
01:01:44,987 --> 01:01:45,507
Speaker 2: this game?

1202
01:01:46,867 --> 01:01:50,787
Speaker 17: It was It's a story of complete mental disintegration, isn't it.

1203
01:01:51,827 --> 01:01:56,107
Speaker 17: It's it's stunning to see the drop in England and

1204
01:01:56,227 --> 01:02:02,467
Speaker 17: the total lack of performance, the total lack of leadership

1205
01:02:02,787 --> 01:02:05,987
Speaker 17: from an England team which was having Mari Returji celebrating

1206
01:02:05,987 --> 01:02:09,667
Speaker 17: a hunt caps Jamie George in the front row, another centurion.

1207
01:02:11,267 --> 01:02:15,747
Speaker 17: It's just bewildering and astonishing and I don't know, I'm

1208
01:02:15,787 --> 01:02:17,627
Speaker 17: not sure if five minutes on the blow with me

1209
01:02:17,827 --> 01:02:19,667
Speaker 17: is going to kind of get to the heart of it,

1210
01:02:19,787 --> 01:02:25,587
Speaker 17: because nobody saw this coming, least of all England themselves,

1211
01:02:25,787 --> 01:02:27,587
Speaker 17: and that is part of the problem.

1212
01:02:29,067 --> 01:02:32,307
Speaker 2: So I mean that, you know, there's a statement there

1213
01:02:32,347 --> 01:02:34,427
Speaker 2: for anybody who hasn't watched the game, they're going to

1214
01:02:34,507 --> 01:02:37,547
Speaker 2: now be rushing off to watch exactly what happened. In

1215
01:02:37,707 --> 01:02:39,667
Speaker 2: rugby terms, what happened.

1216
01:02:40,867 --> 01:02:42,867
Speaker 17: They had the pants pulled down two weeks in a row.

1217
01:02:42,947 --> 01:02:47,187
Speaker 17: That's what's happened. The Scots did it last week and

1218
01:02:47,667 --> 01:02:51,187
Speaker 17: the Irish basically took that blueprint and fair and pretty

1219
01:02:51,227 --> 01:02:54,267
Speaker 17: much went through it. And of course what they were

1220
01:02:54,307 --> 01:02:56,667
Speaker 17: able to do is stretching them to England a very

1221
01:02:57,707 --> 01:03:00,707
Speaker 17: that the one one on one tackling is terrible. And

1222
01:03:00,827 --> 01:03:05,547
Speaker 17: of course Borthwick's I suppose his recipe for success that

1223
01:03:05,627 --> 01:03:07,827
Speaker 17: he has been his blue ever since the kickchase rules

1224
01:03:07,867 --> 01:03:10,547
Speaker 17: have changed. He's been basing a lot of England's attack

1225
01:03:10,627 --> 01:03:12,987
Speaker 17: on that. The problem is if you base your attack

1226
01:03:13,067 --> 01:03:17,187
Speaker 17: on that and you don't win the high ball, what

1227
01:03:17,347 --> 01:03:19,627
Speaker 17: do you do? And England don't have a plan B

1228
01:03:20,307 --> 01:03:23,787
Speaker 17: and their attacking shape has completely gone and their leaders

1229
01:03:24,267 --> 01:03:29,747
Speaker 17: are not leading. Maritoji. The poor guy's gone through awful

1230
01:03:30,067 --> 01:03:34,067
Speaker 17: and awful few months, losing his beloved mother and it's

1231
01:03:34,107 --> 01:03:36,587
Speaker 17: been very, very difficult for him. He's been injured as well.

1232
01:03:36,707 --> 01:03:38,267
Speaker 17: He's come off the back of a Lions tour, so

1233
01:03:38,307 --> 01:03:40,547
Speaker 17: I think his body is shuttered. But he is not

1234
01:03:40,667 --> 01:03:43,267
Speaker 17: the Maritoji that we are used to seeing. You've had

1235
01:03:43,347 --> 01:03:46,387
Speaker 17: George Ford kicking two penalty kicks to touch out on

1236
01:03:46,467 --> 01:03:50,147
Speaker 17: the full and a lot of England's big leaders are

1237
01:03:50,227 --> 01:03:54,267
Speaker 17: just not doing the job. They're conceizing quick starts to

1238
01:03:54,307 --> 01:03:57,147
Speaker 17: the opposition and before they know it, they're fifteen twenty

1239
01:03:57,227 --> 01:04:00,947
Speaker 17: points down after fifteen minutes and they're totally rattled. And

1240
01:04:01,707 --> 01:04:05,747
Speaker 17: today you could see that scar tissue re emerging. And

1241
01:04:06,387 --> 01:04:08,667
Speaker 17: I think last week did they kid themselves that there

1242
01:04:08,707 --> 01:04:12,467
Speaker 17: was just a blemish against Scotland last week? Well, I

1243
01:04:12,547 --> 01:04:17,067
Speaker 17: mean they've been brutally exposed today and I think what's

1244
01:04:17,627 --> 01:04:20,947
Speaker 17: slightly bewildering about all this is they don't really know

1245
01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:25,147
Speaker 17: what the answer is and that comes down to coaching.

1246
01:04:25,347 --> 01:04:27,547
Speaker 17: I mean, we all know that professional sports is brutal.

1247
01:04:27,627 --> 01:04:29,947
Speaker 17: We all know that it can swing on a couple

1248
01:04:29,987 --> 01:04:32,067
Speaker 17: of things here and there. This is not a couple

1249
01:04:32,147 --> 01:04:35,547
Speaker 17: of things. It's basic things like retreating, winning the ball.

1250
01:04:35,947 --> 01:04:39,387
Speaker 17: There's no hunger. Del Warren Gaplan says, it's about being

1251
01:04:39,867 --> 01:04:42,467
Speaker 17: good at the at the jobs that nobody really wants

1252
01:04:42,467 --> 01:04:44,307
Speaker 17: to do, the easy ones. Be the best at everything

1253
01:04:44,387 --> 01:04:47,707
Speaker 17: that requires no talent. That was Gatlan's mantra. England are

1254
01:04:47,907 --> 01:04:50,867
Speaker 17: just not ticking any of those boxes. They are so

1255
01:04:51,867 --> 01:04:56,307
Speaker 17: incredibly inaccurate. They're turning the ball over far too much.

1256
01:04:56,427 --> 01:04:59,787
Speaker 17: They don't adapt their tactics, and defensively they're all over

1257
01:04:59,867 --> 01:05:02,907
Speaker 17: the place. And once you lose the aerial battle and

1258
01:05:02,947 --> 01:05:05,307
Speaker 17: you throw all that into one big miss mix, it

1259
01:05:05,427 --> 01:05:07,027
Speaker 17: is one big mess.

1260
01:05:07,387 --> 01:05:10,907
Speaker 2: Piney, so Italy next, and then France to finish the

1261
01:05:10,987 --> 01:05:13,707
Speaker 2: sixth Nations. I think any hope that they might win

1262
01:05:13,787 --> 01:05:15,587
Speaker 2: the six Nations probably gone.

1263
01:05:16,147 --> 01:05:17,107
Speaker 17: Gone completely gone.

1264
01:05:17,587 --> 01:05:18,587
Speaker 18: So what now?

1265
01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:18,867
Speaker 6: Then?

1266
01:05:18,947 --> 01:05:20,627
Speaker 2: What do you predict they will do?

1267
01:05:20,787 --> 01:05:20,827
Speaker 14: What?

1268
01:05:21,347 --> 01:05:23,707
Speaker 2: What must they do now for these remaining two matches,

1269
01:05:23,747 --> 01:05:27,627
Speaker 2: particularly the season ender against France, even if there's no

1270
01:05:27,707 --> 01:05:30,027
Speaker 2: six Nations to be had, I mean, there's gonna be tough.

1271
01:05:30,347 --> 01:05:32,307
Speaker 12: There's gonna be tough. Gun of Pas, be tough.

1272
01:05:34,347 --> 01:05:37,467
Speaker 17: I tell you what's really interesting is this is the

1273
01:05:37,547 --> 01:05:40,747
Speaker 17: first year where there's only been one rest weekend. Now,

1274
01:05:40,827 --> 01:05:43,067
Speaker 17: typically we wouldn't have had this was last year, we

1275
01:05:43,067 --> 01:05:45,027
Speaker 17: wouldn't have had a game. So put yourself in both

1276
01:05:45,067 --> 01:05:47,467
Speaker 17: with in England's shoes. You get stumped by Scotland last week,

1277
01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:50,827
Speaker 17: you would have had two weeks to really go into

1278
01:05:50,867 --> 01:05:54,387
Speaker 17: it in detail and tighten up everything and then go

1279
01:05:54,547 --> 01:05:57,587
Speaker 17: again against Ireland. They didn't have that time. They had

1280
01:05:57,627 --> 01:06:00,227
Speaker 17: to go straet on the horse again. Now they've got

1281
01:06:00,307 --> 01:06:05,187
Speaker 17: two weeks to fester on two horror shows. And I

1282
01:06:05,227 --> 01:06:07,907
Speaker 17: suppose the big question as a result of this is, well,

1283
01:06:07,907 --> 01:06:11,507
Speaker 17: who's he going to change selectory? I mean, I cannot

1284
01:06:11,547 --> 01:06:14,067
Speaker 17: see how George Ford starts again at tend so it's

1285
01:06:14,067 --> 01:06:15,627
Speaker 17: a question of whether it's going to be Marcus Smith

1286
01:06:15,707 --> 01:06:20,267
Speaker 17: or Finn Smith. Well, I mean, George Ford so much experience,

1287
01:06:20,547 --> 01:06:26,027
Speaker 17: a great tactical player, but just hasn't been there for

1288
01:06:26,107 --> 01:06:29,227
Speaker 17: the last two weeks for England, so I would put

1289
01:06:29,307 --> 01:06:31,507
Speaker 17: Finn Smith in there. I think they're badly missing George

1290
01:06:31,547 --> 01:06:35,027
Speaker 17: Fairbank at fullback because he offers that degree of vision

1291
01:06:35,627 --> 01:06:39,467
Speaker 17: of he's able to knit players together. He's got great

1292
01:06:39,667 --> 01:06:41,867
Speaker 17: he's a great cohesive player, but he also is a

1293
01:06:41,907 --> 01:06:43,947
Speaker 17: great orchestrator and passer of the ball, and he can

1294
01:06:43,987 --> 01:06:46,027
Speaker 17: get a back line going. England just don't have that

1295
01:06:46,147 --> 01:06:49,787
Speaker 17: extra receiver in the same way that Ramos combines brilliantly

1296
01:06:49,867 --> 01:06:52,707
Speaker 17: with Jaliber and that French back line and not saying

1297
01:06:52,747 --> 01:06:56,027
Speaker 17: Fairbanks are Ramos, but he does have a similar skill set.

1298
01:06:56,387 --> 01:06:57,867
Speaker 17: So the back line is going to need to take

1299
01:06:58,187 --> 01:07:01,907
Speaker 17: a serious re examination. Henry Arundall is given a chance

1300
01:07:02,347 --> 01:07:05,707
Speaker 17: to make amends for his red card against Scotland. He

1301
01:07:05,827 --> 01:07:09,987
Speaker 17: barely feed defensively, he was exposed. I can't see Aaron

1302
01:07:10,107 --> 01:07:13,307
Speaker 17: or starting against Italy, and on that I mean Italy.

1303
01:07:13,467 --> 01:07:15,667
Speaker 17: I mean they've got to play France tomorrow. But if

1304
01:07:15,707 --> 01:07:19,747
Speaker 17: you're Italy, you're going to be in Rome fancying your

1305
01:07:19,867 --> 01:07:23,227
Speaker 17: first ever scalp against the English because English confidence will

1306
01:07:23,267 --> 01:07:25,787
Speaker 17: be shot to bits. You know, they've built this winning

1307
01:07:25,867 --> 01:07:28,747
Speaker 17: run of twelve games in a row and in two

1308
01:07:28,907 --> 01:07:32,787
Speaker 17: games that's been completely you know, completely destroyed.

1309
01:07:33,427 --> 01:07:35,827
Speaker 2: Just to finish on Italy, as you say, that'll sense

1310
01:07:35,827 --> 01:07:38,947
Speaker 2: it because what they beat Scotland, they were within seven

1311
01:07:39,027 --> 01:07:41,827
Speaker 2: points of Ireland. They'll play France tomorrow. That's tough, but

1312
01:07:41,947 --> 01:07:45,027
Speaker 2: you're right back home. They'll fancy it. In terms of

1313
01:07:45,187 --> 01:07:48,547
Speaker 2: tomorrow's game against I mean, they couldn't possibly beat France,

1314
01:07:48,587 --> 01:07:48,907
Speaker 2: could they.

1315
01:07:49,707 --> 01:07:52,307
Speaker 17: Well remember what happened two years ago. You might remember

1316
01:07:52,347 --> 01:07:55,547
Speaker 17: the dying minutes and Garbici has the pen that the

1317
01:07:55,667 --> 01:07:58,627
Speaker 17: kick to win it, and the ball falls off the

1318
01:07:58,707 --> 01:08:01,987
Speaker 17: kicking tea. The French water bottle carrier is still on

1319
01:08:02,027 --> 01:08:04,667
Speaker 17: the pitch and he's walking towards Garbici. As he's trying

1320
01:08:04,707 --> 01:08:08,227
Speaker 17: to take the kick. The ball falls off the kicking tea.

1321
01:08:08,307 --> 01:08:10,427
Speaker 17: Garbaci looks to the ref. The ref says, get on

1322
01:08:10,547 --> 01:08:12,427
Speaker 17: with it. He has six seconds to try and kick it.

1323
01:08:12,707 --> 01:08:14,627
Speaker 17: He races to put the ball on the tee and

1324
01:08:14,787 --> 01:08:18,027
Speaker 17: then misses the kick. We had all that and it

1325
01:08:18,147 --> 01:08:19,987
Speaker 17: got that kick. They would have won it in Lele

1326
01:08:20,027 --> 01:08:22,587
Speaker 17: two years ago, and that has been playing around in

1327
01:08:22,667 --> 01:08:25,667
Speaker 17: Garbici's head ever since. He wouldn't be human if he didn't.

1328
01:08:26,467 --> 01:08:28,787
Speaker 17: Can they win tomorrow? I mean France have gone very

1329
01:08:28,827 --> 01:08:31,427
Speaker 17: strong again. They've made just a couple of changes in

1330
01:08:31,467 --> 01:08:33,427
Speaker 17: the second row and that is it. And they have

1331
01:08:33,547 --> 01:08:35,947
Speaker 17: beefed up their pack because they know. The Italian front

1332
01:08:36,067 --> 01:08:40,027
Speaker 17: five have been devastating in this tournament so far. I

1333
01:08:40,067 --> 01:08:43,547
Speaker 17: don't think nobody expects the way France are playing right now.

1334
01:08:43,667 --> 01:08:47,547
Speaker 17: Nobody expects his lead to get close, but who knows.

1335
01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:51,067
Speaker 17: This is a funny old tournament. Piney. Every every kind

1336
01:08:51,147 --> 01:08:55,107
Speaker 17: of premonition we thought might happen. Let me throw that out,

1337
01:08:55,507 --> 01:08:56,427
Speaker 17: throw that out of the window.

1338
01:08:57,427 --> 01:08:59,787
Speaker 2: James, always such a pleasure chatting rugby with you, mate.

1339
01:08:59,787 --> 01:09:01,787
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking my pall on this

1340
01:09:02,187 --> 01:09:03,227
Speaker 2: challenging day for you.

1341
01:09:03,387 --> 01:09:05,027
Speaker 17: You're a lucky man. That's all I can say.

1342
01:09:06,827 --> 01:09:09,307
Speaker 2: James Burrage out of the BBC in the UK, prepping

1343
01:09:09,347 --> 01:09:12,227
Speaker 2: for tomorrow's game, but also keeping an eye on everything

1344
01:09:12,267 --> 01:09:15,187
Speaker 2: else that's happening six nations wise. So just to recap

1345
01:09:15,267 --> 01:09:18,787
Speaker 2: the scores overnight twenty six twenty three, Scotland getting home

1346
01:09:18,827 --> 01:09:22,187
Speaker 2: against excuse me against Wales, England going down forty two

1347
01:09:22,227 --> 01:09:26,587
Speaker 2: to twenty one to Ireland at Twickenham twenty three to two.

1348
01:09:26,787 --> 01:09:30,107
Speaker 2: James mcconey shortly updating you from the Ford Trophy Final

1349
01:09:30,187 --> 01:09:33,747
Speaker 2: where CD have pulled things back a bit. Canterbury were

1350
01:09:33,747 --> 01:09:36,107
Speaker 2: threatening a really big score but they've just been hauled

1351
01:09:36,147 --> 01:09:39,467
Speaker 2: and ever so slightly. They're two fifty two for five

1352
01:09:40,747 --> 01:09:42,827
Speaker 2: coming to the end of the forty fourth over, so

1353
01:09:42,987 --> 01:09:47,267
Speaker 2: still six overs to go, but a flurry of wickets

1354
01:09:47,547 --> 01:09:50,467
Speaker 2: after Canterbury at one stage you got through to one

1355
01:09:50,547 --> 01:09:53,667
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety four for one in the thirty fifth over,

1356
01:09:53,947 --> 01:09:57,027
Speaker 2: but the departure of Henry Nichols has been followed by

1357
01:09:57,107 --> 01:10:00,587
Speaker 2: Tom Latham out for eighty, Reese Maudio has been dismissed

1358
01:10:00,627 --> 01:10:03,827
Speaker 2: for twenty eight and Mitch Hay has coming gone for seven.

1359
01:10:03,947 --> 01:10:06,667
Speaker 2: Matt Boyle and Lockey Harper are at the at the

1360
01:10:06,707 --> 01:10:10,107
Speaker 2: moment forty four overs gone, two hundred and fifty two

1361
01:10:10,307 --> 01:10:13,387
Speaker 2: for five, so still they'll be targeting a total of

1362
01:10:13,627 --> 01:10:20,027
Speaker 2: three hundred plus the wickets Ray Tool for the Stags

1363
01:10:20,067 --> 01:10:22,387
Speaker 2: two for forty five or wicket for Josh Clarkson, one

1364
01:10:22,427 --> 01:10:25,707
Speaker 2: for Brett Randall and one for Angus Shaw as well.

1365
01:10:26,907 --> 01:10:29,867
Speaker 2: Another Auckland FC match coming up next weekend. They take

1366
01:10:29,947 --> 01:10:33,747
Speaker 2: on Melbourne City next Saturday. Go Media Stadium Saturday February

1367
01:10:33,747 --> 01:10:35,467
Speaker 2: twenty eight, five o'clock kick off if you would like

1368
01:10:35,547 --> 01:10:38,387
Speaker 2: to be there and you'll be in Auckland, or you

1369
01:10:38,507 --> 01:10:41,147
Speaker 2: can get to go Media Stadium next Saturday I've got

1370
01:10:41,187 --> 01:10:43,587
Speaker 2: a six ticket family pass up for grabs. This is

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01:10:43,587 --> 01:10:46,787
Speaker 2: a big game. Melbourne City won the A League last

1372
01:10:46,827 --> 01:10:49,307
Speaker 2: year they won the Grand Final. Auckland FC won the

1373
01:10:49,347 --> 01:10:53,307
Speaker 2: Premier's Plate the regular season competition, so it's the premieres

1374
01:10:53,307 --> 01:10:57,827
Speaker 2: against the champions five o'clock next Saturday. Go media. If

1375
01:10:57,827 --> 01:10:59,987
Speaker 2: you want to be in the drawer for a six

1376
01:11:00,427 --> 01:11:03,227
Speaker 2: ticket family pass, all you have to do is text

1377
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Speaker 2: AFC and your name to nineteen two AFC and then

1378
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Speaker 2: your name to nine two ninety two. Send it through.

1379
01:11:10,547 --> 01:11:12,107
Speaker 2: We'll make the draw tomorrow and let you know if

1380
01:11:12,107 --> 01:11:14,947
Speaker 2: you're the winner. Six tickets to why Chalkland FC against

1381
01:11:14,987 --> 01:11:18,627
Speaker 2: Melbourne City next Saturday AFC your name to nine two

1382
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Speaker 2: nine two back in a sec.

1383
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1387
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1388
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Speaker 2: the pleasure of the company of James mcconey.

1389
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Speaker 6: How are you, mate, Kilder Piney, how are you? Wow?

1390
01:11:42,227 --> 01:11:44,907
Speaker 6: It's been an amazing twenty four hoursand.

1391
01:11:44,667 --> 01:11:47,707
Speaker 2: Sports, yes, they say a day is a long time

1392
01:11:47,827 --> 01:11:50,427
Speaker 2: and politics, don't they or do that? I'm not sure

1393
01:11:50,467 --> 01:11:52,227
Speaker 2: I've just said it, but in sport it certainly is.

1394
01:11:52,547 --> 01:11:53,867
Speaker 2: You want to get to the football at a minute.

1395
01:11:53,907 --> 01:11:56,507
Speaker 2: But can we start with what happened in Dunedin last night?

1396
01:11:56,547 --> 01:11:58,787
Speaker 2: I thought the Highlanders gave a pretty good account of themselves.

1397
01:11:59,667 --> 01:12:02,067
Speaker 2: But the Chiefs two from two to start Super Rugby.

1398
01:12:02,107 --> 01:12:04,667
Speaker 2: It's your year clearly, ah.

1399
01:12:04,667 --> 01:12:09,707
Speaker 6: The Chiefs, the Suffocators, so many kicks piney thirty six

1400
01:12:09,867 --> 01:12:12,907
Speaker 6: kicks in play from the Chiefs and thirty four from

1401
01:12:12,947 --> 01:12:14,747
Speaker 6: the Highlanders, although I feel like the Hunlanders had a

1402
01:12:14,787 --> 01:12:17,507
Speaker 6: few more attacking kicks, you know the cross kick that

1403
01:12:17,587 --> 01:12:20,467
Speaker 6: almost led to a try which actually ended up being

1404
01:12:20,507 --> 01:12:24,027
Speaker 6: a try down the other end after a questionable little

1405
01:12:24,147 --> 01:12:27,947
Speaker 6: dropout from Quintupire but hey it was being legal. And

1406
01:12:28,027 --> 01:12:30,907
Speaker 6: then Lee ra Acartera runs the length of the field.

1407
01:12:31,147 --> 01:12:33,227
Speaker 6: But it just goes to show these derby games there

1408
01:12:33,267 --> 01:12:35,907
Speaker 6: is nothing and really I think the Highlanders almost came

1409
01:12:35,907 --> 01:12:37,947
Speaker 6: away feeling like we should have had that.

1410
01:12:38,307 --> 01:12:40,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they had noiki and the bin didn't they

1411
01:12:40,427 --> 01:12:42,987
Speaker 2: For ten minutes early in the second half and the

1412
01:12:43,107 --> 01:12:45,267
Speaker 2: chief scored a try. They also stole a line out

1413
01:12:45,267 --> 01:12:47,347
Speaker 2: and scored a try. It's almost like those moments. I

1414
01:12:47,387 --> 01:12:50,347
Speaker 2: think they call them championship moments. Maybe the Chiefs have

1415
01:12:50,507 --> 01:12:53,867
Speaker 2: just more experience at winning moments within a game of rugby,

1416
01:12:54,027 --> 01:12:55,187
Speaker 2: more so than the Highlanders do.

1417
01:12:55,907 --> 01:12:58,547
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's strange because I mean, we all enjoyed the

1418
01:12:58,827 --> 01:13:01,587
Speaker 6: great moments from the speechsters I mentioned Lee were a carter.

1419
01:13:01,707 --> 01:13:05,507
Speaker 6: But Caleb Tangingtower, Oh my goodness, he must so quick

1420
01:13:06,947 --> 01:13:08,267
Speaker 6: and so we know he's going to be in the

1421
01:13:08,307 --> 01:13:10,747
Speaker 6: All Blacks. Jamie Joseph or Dave Rennie is definitely going

1422
01:13:10,827 --> 01:13:14,187
Speaker 6: to pick him. But how about someone like TK Howden,

1423
01:13:14,587 --> 01:13:17,027
Speaker 6: who in the past two games has really been impressive

1424
01:13:17,147 --> 01:13:19,867
Speaker 6: and last night topped the tackle count. He also had

1425
01:13:19,947 --> 01:13:23,827
Speaker 6: most carries with fifteen. And I wonder whether, if Jamie

1426
01:13:23,907 --> 01:13:26,547
Speaker 6: is coach, is it too early to call a bolterer pony.

1427
01:13:26,707 --> 01:13:29,107
Speaker 2: I don't think solden, No, not at all. I think

1428
01:13:29,147 --> 01:13:30,907
Speaker 2: we could call them whenever we like, even if we

1429
01:13:30,987 --> 01:13:34,267
Speaker 2: don't have a coach. Hit And the invigorating thing I

1430
01:13:34,347 --> 01:13:37,027
Speaker 2: think for everybody in super rugby, regardless of whether you've

1431
01:13:37,027 --> 01:13:39,187
Speaker 2: been an All Black, are an All Black, or want

1432
01:13:39,227 --> 01:13:41,027
Speaker 2: to be an All Black is that we don't know

1433
01:13:41,067 --> 01:13:42,547
Speaker 2: who the coach is going to be. You don't know

1434
01:13:42,587 --> 01:13:44,987
Speaker 2: who you're trying to impress. So you just go Hafner

1435
01:13:45,027 --> 01:13:47,147
Speaker 2: and try and play as well as you can every week,

1436
01:13:47,227 --> 01:13:47,507
Speaker 2: don't you.

1437
01:13:48,107 --> 01:13:53,507
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly? And to come Howlden from a fielding remember

1438
01:13:53,547 --> 01:13:56,507
Speaker 6: the name, put it down and record that, please Andy,

1439
01:13:56,627 --> 01:13:59,507
Speaker 6: because I think that he could be an All Black.

1440
01:13:59,547 --> 01:14:02,787
Speaker 6: But also what a shame for Fahie Finneung and North

1441
01:14:02,827 --> 01:14:05,707
Speaker 6: for the winger the left winger for the Hurricanes who

1442
01:14:05,747 --> 01:14:08,787
Speaker 6: has signed to the Newcastle Red Bulls. He looks every

1443
01:14:08,827 --> 01:14:10,987
Speaker 6: bit in All Black and he is leaving at the

1444
01:14:11,067 --> 01:14:11,667
Speaker 6: end of the season.

1445
01:14:11,827 --> 01:14:15,107
Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard from Clark Label after that game, the

1446
01:14:15,187 --> 01:14:17,307
Speaker 2: Hurricanes coach, and he said, yes, he's got a couple

1447
01:14:17,347 --> 01:14:18,707
Speaker 2: of tries and he should have had that third one.

1448
01:14:18,747 --> 01:14:20,587
Speaker 2: What's he doing passing to his mate when he's in

1449
01:14:20,667 --> 01:14:22,587
Speaker 2: the end goal area anyway, that's a different story. But

1450
01:14:22,667 --> 01:14:24,467
Speaker 2: he said, what you don't notice, or maybe what you

1451
01:14:24,547 --> 01:14:27,147
Speaker 2: do if you're watching more closely, is fingering and all

1452
01:14:27,187 --> 01:14:30,627
Speaker 2: fours defensive game and the variety that kicks ahead with

1453
01:14:30,787 --> 01:14:32,747
Speaker 2: ball in hand, things like that. He still dropped a

1454
01:14:32,787 --> 01:14:34,987
Speaker 2: couple and you know he's still a young winger, but yeah,

1455
01:14:34,987 --> 01:14:37,147
Speaker 2: he's he's far from the finished product, but he's looking

1456
01:14:37,187 --> 01:14:37,627
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1457
01:14:38,147 --> 01:14:41,867
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. And you look at Lera Carter's trajectory has

1458
01:14:41,947 --> 01:14:44,587
Speaker 6: played in sevens, took his time to get used to

1459
01:14:45,387 --> 01:14:47,507
Speaker 6: the next level, and then suddenly he's an All Black.

1460
01:14:47,587 --> 01:14:50,187
Speaker 6: So we may never know for Finian and nor four

1461
01:14:50,347 --> 01:14:51,267
Speaker 6: and he's.

1462
01:14:51,107 --> 01:14:54,307
Speaker 2: Off Dave Rennie Jamie Joseph two horse race for the

1463
01:14:54,307 --> 01:14:57,147
Speaker 2: All Blacks coaching job. I read Lem Napey during the

1464
01:14:57,147 --> 01:14:58,707
Speaker 2: week telling us that it's likely to be in the

1465
01:14:58,747 --> 01:15:01,547
Speaker 2: middle of next month before we have a decision. If

1466
01:15:01,627 --> 01:15:03,507
Speaker 2: this is a two horse race, who's got their nose

1467
01:15:03,587 --> 01:15:04,747
Speaker 2: in front at the moment.

1468
01:15:05,267 --> 01:15:07,387
Speaker 6: It's Jamie Joe as they call him. I think that

1469
01:15:07,547 --> 01:15:12,187
Speaker 6: he's the one who's got the I guess the momentum.

1470
01:15:12,547 --> 01:15:16,107
Speaker 6: And look, the Highlanders are playing a pretty good brand

1471
01:15:16,147 --> 01:15:18,827
Speaker 6: of rugby. He does look like you know, with a

1472
01:15:18,907 --> 01:15:22,707
Speaker 6: few injuries and that team, he still competes really, really well.

1473
01:15:22,747 --> 01:15:26,427
Speaker 6: I think Jamie Joseph, unless Dave Renny can really impress

1474
01:15:26,467 --> 01:15:29,627
Speaker 6: the panel in that interview situation. Look, I don't think

1475
01:15:29,667 --> 01:15:33,027
Speaker 6: that there's much difference between them. I think they're super record,

1476
01:15:33,387 --> 01:15:36,747
Speaker 6: super rugby record. I think Renni slightly ahead, Test record,

1477
01:15:36,867 --> 01:15:40,267
Speaker 6: Jamie slightly ahead. But of course you know Dave Rennie

1478
01:15:40,267 --> 01:15:42,827
Speaker 6: did did have that Test match for the Wallabies where

1479
01:15:43,267 --> 01:15:46,707
Speaker 6: the French referee said you must play, you must play,

1480
01:15:46,827 --> 01:15:49,347
Speaker 6: and then suddenly they cost him the Test match, so

1481
01:15:50,067 --> 01:15:52,627
Speaker 6: that goes against them, So I think it's Jamie Joseph.

1482
01:15:52,827 --> 01:15:54,747
Speaker 2: All right, let's move to football. We've had a lot

1483
01:15:54,747 --> 01:15:57,787
Speaker 2: of chat on the show this afternoon about gian Callo Ataliano,

1484
01:15:57,867 --> 01:16:01,827
Speaker 2: his resignation, a sixth straight derby win for Auckland FC

1485
01:16:01,907 --> 01:16:04,987
Speaker 2: over Wellington Phoenix, the last straw. What do you take

1486
01:16:05,027 --> 01:16:06,587
Speaker 2: out of yesterday and what are you pretty for the

1487
01:16:06,667 --> 01:16:08,947
Speaker 2: future of not only Wellington Phoenix, but I guess in

1488
01:16:08,987 --> 01:16:11,507
Speaker 2: Auckland F seaside, who are now you know, back in

1489
01:16:11,627 --> 01:16:13,427
Speaker 2: charge of their own destiny as they look for another

1490
01:16:13,467 --> 01:16:15,307
Speaker 2: Premier's played well.

1491
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Speaker 6: I thought it was going to be an epic derby

1492
01:16:18,547 --> 01:16:20,987
Speaker 6: yesterday and then it just turned to be turned out

1493
01:16:21,027 --> 01:16:25,987
Speaker 6: to be an absolute capitulation. Poor old calamity Josh Josh

1494
01:16:26,107 --> 01:16:30,427
Speaker 6: Odaway Yemu Ohaway Yemi in the goal their own goal.

1495
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Speaker 6: I think you said, Poney, how many views of it had.

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Speaker 2: I checked this morning, it's over a million views around

1497
01:16:36,387 --> 01:16:37,947
Speaker 2: the world. Now it's the kind of thing that yeah,

1498
01:16:37,947 --> 01:16:40,107
Speaker 2: I think they woke up in the Northern Hemisphere last

1499
01:16:40,187 --> 01:16:43,427
Speaker 2: night out time and some pretty big social media accounts

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01:16:43,867 --> 01:16:47,427
Speaker 2: with over a million followers have been have been reposting it.

1501
01:16:47,627 --> 01:16:49,867
Speaker 2: So yeah, there wouldn't be too many football fans around

1502
01:16:49,867 --> 01:16:50,867
Speaker 2: the world. Now I haven't seen this.

1503
01:16:51,467 --> 01:16:53,947
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing. I just think it's so gotting

1504
01:16:54,027 --> 01:16:57,187
Speaker 6: to the Phoenix Faithful and really they're better than that.

1505
01:16:57,387 --> 01:16:59,547
Speaker 6: And I thought with the likes of Bill tool My

1506
01:16:59,667 --> 01:17:02,027
Speaker 6: Cammingham and bolstering the team, that would have been a

1507
01:17:02,067 --> 01:17:07,027
Speaker 6: better showing. But just on Josh should have been subbed

1508
01:17:07,027 --> 01:17:09,547
Speaker 6: immediately after that goal. I know it's harsh and you

1509
01:17:09,627 --> 01:17:13,187
Speaker 6: don't want to see people, you know, I guess belittle,

1510
01:17:13,267 --> 01:17:15,227
Speaker 6: but I just think it threw him too much. And

1511
01:17:16,667 --> 01:17:19,267
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that would stem the floodgates, but sometimes

1512
01:17:19,307 --> 01:17:21,747
Speaker 6: it just has to happen. And now, like you said,

1513
01:17:22,187 --> 01:17:25,947
Speaker 6: I think we were saying before this call, people need

1514
01:17:26,027 --> 01:17:28,347
Speaker 6: to look after Josh because it's going to be so

1515
01:17:28,507 --> 01:17:31,387
Speaker 6: tough for him to bounce back from that. But on

1516
01:17:31,507 --> 01:17:36,747
Speaker 6: to Chief Chiefy, Giancarlo Italiano, I hardly ever say his name.

1517
01:17:37,067 --> 01:17:39,107
Speaker 6: You have to because you're a commentator, pony, but I'll

1518
01:17:39,107 --> 01:17:41,067
Speaker 6: tell you what. I thought that he was a bit

1519
01:17:41,067 --> 01:17:43,467
Speaker 6: of a genius coming and playing a really cool brand

1520
01:17:43,507 --> 01:17:46,107
Speaker 6: of football. It's sad. I just think that for him

1521
01:17:46,187 --> 01:17:49,027
Speaker 6: being over here feeling that isolation when you can't get

1522
01:17:49,027 --> 01:17:52,107
Speaker 6: it done, and the derby, I think he's got great ideas. Yes,

1523
01:17:52,187 --> 01:17:54,427
Speaker 6: the high press is weird. When there's a high press

1524
01:17:54,547 --> 01:17:57,587
Speaker 6: become flimsy defense. It's a big question. But I think

1525
01:17:57,667 --> 01:18:00,947
Speaker 6: he will, like a phoenix, rise again and coach at

1526
01:18:01,027 --> 01:18:01,827
Speaker 6: a really high level.

1527
01:18:02,507 --> 01:18:04,947
Speaker 2: I've got no doubt. Yeah. Coaches leave clubs all the time,

1528
01:18:05,027 --> 01:18:07,027
Speaker 2: either buy their own choice or the choice of their

1529
01:18:07,067 --> 01:18:09,587
Speaker 2: owners or whatever happens. So yeah, no doubt he hasn't

1530
01:18:09,587 --> 01:18:11,787
Speaker 2: become a bad coach overnight. He'll pop up somewhere else

1531
01:18:11,827 --> 01:18:14,947
Speaker 2: again and go again. A couple of other metals. I

1532
01:18:15,027 --> 01:18:17,307
Speaker 2: wanted to get your thoughts on Winter Olympics coming to

1533
01:18:17,347 --> 01:18:19,107
Speaker 2: an end across the weekend. Have you been taking much

1534
01:18:19,147 --> 01:18:20,907
Speaker 2: of this in I have a lot.

1535
01:18:21,067 --> 01:18:23,587
Speaker 6: In fact, I've really been enjoying the figure skating. I

1536
01:18:23,667 --> 01:18:26,387
Speaker 6: think with my old age party, I'm getting a bit emotional.

1537
01:18:27,467 --> 01:18:30,707
Speaker 6: It's really like the Japanese figure skating pair with the

1538
01:18:30,787 --> 01:18:33,307
Speaker 6: guy who was visually impaired. I mean, come on now,

1539
01:18:33,387 --> 01:18:36,907
Speaker 6: that's amazing. They won gold, and I recommend you going

1540
01:18:36,947 --> 01:18:40,867
Speaker 6: and finding that on YouTube. But also a Lissie Leu

1541
01:18:41,187 --> 01:18:45,387
Speaker 6: who won this singles gold medal in figure skating. She's

1542
01:18:45,427 --> 01:18:48,547
Speaker 6: got piercings all through her mouth and different colored hair.

1543
01:18:48,947 --> 01:18:52,747
Speaker 6: She reminds me of my daughter and her mates, and

1544
01:18:53,027 --> 01:18:56,707
Speaker 6: you know, just a good alternative, alternative and an awesome

1545
01:18:56,827 --> 01:18:59,347
Speaker 6: role model. Like she is not really about the winning

1546
01:18:59,467 --> 01:19:02,827
Speaker 6: or losing. She's about having fun. And her having fun

1547
01:19:03,267 --> 01:19:04,987
Speaker 6: won or a gold medal. It was crazy.

1548
01:19:05,107 --> 01:19:06,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing wrong with it, Nothing wrong with being a

1549
01:19:06,987 --> 01:19:10,587
Speaker 2: bit different and expressing yourself. Did you enjoy your night

1550
01:19:10,627 --> 01:19:11,947
Speaker 2: at the Hellbergs by the way.

1551
01:19:12,507 --> 01:19:14,787
Speaker 6: Oh look I did. I did. I tried to Martin Brundle,

1552
01:19:14,907 --> 01:19:17,227
Speaker 6: wandering through and catching up with a few people. Dan

1553
01:19:17,347 --> 01:19:20,387
Speaker 6: Carter was there. He always, he's lovely, just always plays ball.

1554
01:19:20,507 --> 01:19:24,347
Speaker 6: Dan Carter and of course Ironnie and Caleb Clark. That

1555
01:19:24,547 --> 01:19:27,067
Speaker 6: was just it's just emotional seeing those two together that

1556
01:19:27,147 --> 01:19:29,587
Speaker 6: have got such an awesome father son bond. You know,

1557
01:19:29,787 --> 01:19:33,947
Speaker 6: talk about parenting goals. But the one thing I would

1558
01:19:33,987 --> 01:19:36,067
Speaker 6: say is I actually thought it should have been a

1559
01:19:36,107 --> 01:19:39,027
Speaker 6: shared Halberg with Jordi Beamish and Hamish care. I know

1560
01:19:39,147 --> 01:19:41,947
Speaker 6: they're both up for sportsmen. I think what they achieved

1561
01:19:41,987 --> 01:19:44,707
Speaker 6: at the World Champs could you couldn't separate them. And

1562
01:19:45,427 --> 01:19:47,707
Speaker 6: it is really about the World Champs because even though

1563
01:19:47,747 --> 01:19:50,107
Speaker 6: Hamish would have won plenty of events leading up to that,

1564
01:19:50,547 --> 01:19:54,067
Speaker 6: I think what Jordie was doing to pretty much ambush

1565
01:19:54,107 --> 01:19:57,107
Speaker 6: one of the greatest or perhaps the greatest deeeple chaser

1566
01:19:57,147 --> 01:20:00,147
Speaker 6: of all time, that is that should have been recognized

1567
01:20:00,187 --> 01:20:02,467
Speaker 6: and if there ever should have been a shared Halberg,

1568
01:20:02,547 --> 01:20:05,427
Speaker 6: it should have been this year. Let's normalize it.

1569
01:20:05,667 --> 01:20:07,507
Speaker 2: Yep, nothing wrong with it, Nothing wrong with it.

1570
01:20:07,787 --> 01:20:08,027
Speaker 6: James.

1571
01:20:08,067 --> 01:20:09,707
Speaker 2: Always good to tet to you on a Sunday. Thanks

1572
01:20:09,747 --> 01:20:11,707
Speaker 2: for taking time out of your busy schedule. We'll do

1573
01:20:11,747 --> 01:20:12,507
Speaker 2: it again next week.

1574
01:20:13,147 --> 01:20:14,867
Speaker 6: Can't wait. Poney, See you mate.

1575
01:20:14,707 --> 01:20:16,867
Speaker 2: See you mate. Thanks indeed, James mcconey, big part of

1576
01:20:16,907 --> 01:20:19,627
Speaker 2: our Sundays. It's nine away from two now. Every year

1577
01:20:20,227 --> 01:20:23,827
Speaker 2: during oh Week in Dunedin they run a scavenger hunt

1578
01:20:24,187 --> 01:20:27,907
Speaker 2: and usually one of the items what was that, sorry, Andy,

1579
01:20:29,267 --> 01:20:30,227
Speaker 2: that's how we can Auckland?

1580
01:20:30,307 --> 01:20:30,427
Speaker 7: Is it?

1581
01:20:30,467 --> 01:20:30,667
Speaker 12: Sorry?

1582
01:20:30,707 --> 01:20:33,147
Speaker 2: There was oh week in Dunedin or I know week

1583
01:20:33,147 --> 01:20:36,107
Speaker 2: in Auckland. We're talking here. Oh yes, I now see

1584
01:20:36,147 --> 01:20:39,347
Speaker 2: the notes that you've provided me. Well, what we normally

1585
01:20:39,387 --> 01:20:41,907
Speaker 2: gets a caller who would like to get on the

1586
01:20:41,987 --> 01:20:44,787
Speaker 2: radio so that they can earn some points in the

1587
01:20:44,867 --> 01:20:46,947
Speaker 2: scavenger hunt. And we've sort of made a litt bit

1588
01:20:46,947 --> 01:20:49,707
Speaker 2: of a tradition that we put one person on the

1589
01:20:49,787 --> 01:20:51,547
Speaker 2: air on this show. We're not the only radio station,

1590
01:20:51,667 --> 01:20:54,507
Speaker 2: of course, but we put one person on the air

1591
01:20:55,027 --> 01:20:57,427
Speaker 2: on weekend Sport and allow them to get their points.

1592
01:20:58,507 --> 01:21:00,867
Speaker 12: Cap cam camp. Can you hear me?

1593
01:21:00,987 --> 01:21:01,227
Speaker 2: Mate?

1594
01:21:01,867 --> 01:21:01,987
Speaker 14: Hi?

1595
01:21:02,107 --> 01:21:04,027
Speaker 19: Phony, Hi, very good.

1596
01:21:04,107 --> 01:21:06,587
Speaker 2: So how many points are you getting for me on

1597
01:21:06,627 --> 01:21:07,067
Speaker 2: the radio?

1598
01:21:07,827 --> 01:21:09,867
Speaker 19: They're offering us one hundred and fifty points to get

1599
01:21:09,947 --> 01:21:10,507
Speaker 19: us on the radio.

1600
01:21:11,467 --> 01:21:13,907
Speaker 2: All right, well you've got your one hundred and fifty points.

1601
01:21:13,987 --> 01:21:17,467
Speaker 2: You can say it at one fifty two. Did you

1602
01:21:17,547 --> 01:21:18,747
Speaker 2: have a time limit? Did you have to get on

1603
01:21:18,787 --> 01:21:19,947
Speaker 2: the air before a certain time?

1604
01:21:20,547 --> 01:21:20,747
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1605
01:21:20,787 --> 01:21:22,227
Speaker 19: Before three. You guys have been amazing.

1606
01:21:22,307 --> 01:21:22,587
Speaker 8: Thank you.

1607
01:21:23,147 --> 01:21:25,107
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure. It is a pleasure. You can take

1608
01:21:25,107 --> 01:21:27,267
Speaker 2: you one hundred and fifty points. We won't be putting

1609
01:21:27,267 --> 01:21:29,747
Speaker 2: anybody else on. What are you studying?

1610
01:21:30,867 --> 01:21:33,307
Speaker 19: Oh, there's a bunch of us doing a bunch of

1611
01:21:33,347 --> 01:21:35,947
Speaker 19: different things. It's our entire floor. We do have something

1612
01:21:35,987 --> 01:21:45,747
Speaker 19: we'd like to say, though, piny go on therefore ready, guys, I.

1613
01:21:45,747 --> 01:21:48,987
Speaker 2: Think they might have been cut off halfway through seven

1614
01:21:49,027 --> 01:21:50,067
Speaker 2: and a half to two new.

1615
01:21:49,987 --> 01:21:54,187
Speaker 1: Stalk ZIB the Big Names and the Big Calls on

1616
01:21:54,307 --> 01:21:58,547
Speaker 1: your Home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason Fine News

1617
01:21:58,627 --> 01:21:59,347
Speaker 1: Talk z MB.

1618
01:22:00,027 --> 01:22:01,307
Speaker 2: Just on four. I from two. I just want to

1619
01:22:01,307 --> 01:22:03,267
Speaker 2: make it clear that they weren't swearing when they were

1620
01:22:03,387 --> 01:22:05,067
Speaker 2: yelling before. I think they were just yelling out the

1621
01:22:05,107 --> 01:22:08,427
Speaker 2: name of their their law or their house. And I've

1622
01:22:08,627 --> 01:22:11,747
Speaker 2: been to university for a while, but they were very

1623
01:22:11,827 --> 01:22:15,307
Speaker 2: nice bunch of students. Well done Floor seven at the

1624
01:22:15,427 --> 01:22:19,147
Speaker 2: University of Auckland. One hundred and fifty points for you

1625
01:22:19,227 --> 01:22:21,507
Speaker 2: for getting on the radio. We won't be taking any

1626
01:22:21,547 --> 01:22:25,147
Speaker 2: more calls on that. They were just one we picked

1627
01:22:25,147 --> 01:22:29,067
Speaker 2: out and they asked nicely, so Andy agreed that they

1628
01:22:29,107 --> 01:22:30,827
Speaker 2: would be the ones who would pick up the Scavenger

1629
01:22:30,907 --> 01:22:34,387
Speaker 2: Hunt points for twenty twenty six. After two o'clock, quite

1630
01:22:34,387 --> 01:22:36,227
Speaker 2: of it to get through. Eli justters on the show.

1631
01:22:36,627 --> 01:22:39,947
Speaker 2: All White's Attacker World Cup is looming into view and

1632
01:22:40,027 --> 01:22:41,947
Speaker 2: a couple of home games next month, so Eli just

1633
01:22:41,987 --> 01:22:44,227
Speaker 2: goin to chat to us. Tommy Tapooni is the new

1634
01:22:44,307 --> 01:22:47,307
Speaker 2: holder of the men's two hundred meter national record. He

1635
01:22:47,387 --> 01:22:50,027
Speaker 2: set a new record yesterday in christ Church. Heason for

1636
01:22:50,067 --> 01:22:51,867
Speaker 2: a chat, Madame My Down's as well. Out of the

1637
01:22:51,947 --> 01:22:55,227
Speaker 2: Northern Brave they have won the halle Bit and Johnston Shield,

1638
01:22:55,267 --> 01:22:58,347
Speaker 2: our domestic fifty over cricket comp and Nick Beuley in

1639
01:22:58,467 --> 01:23:01,707
Speaker 2: christ Church previewing the Crusaders against the Brumbies.

1640
01:23:02,987 --> 01:23:07,227
Speaker 1: Deep only place for the big names, the issues, the

1641
01:23:07,347 --> 01:23:12,547
Speaker 1: big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on Weekend

1642
01:23:12,667 --> 01:23:16,587
Speaker 1: Sports with Jason Vine on your home of Sport News

1643
01:23:16,667 --> 01:23:17,187
Speaker 1: Talks MB.

1644
01:23:18,467 --> 01:23:20,947
Speaker 2: Hello there, seven past two, Welcome into the show. Welcome

1645
01:23:20,987 --> 01:23:22,507
Speaker 2: back to the show. We hit all three. This is

1646
01:23:22,547 --> 01:23:25,027
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine and a McDonald here too,

1647
01:23:25,747 --> 01:23:28,027
Speaker 2: Tim Beverage after three. But before we get to him,

1648
01:23:28,467 --> 01:23:30,107
Speaker 2: a lot to get through. We need to get you

1649
01:23:30,187 --> 01:23:32,867
Speaker 2: to christ Church where the Crusaders take on the Brumbies

1650
01:23:32,947 --> 01:23:35,947
Speaker 2: this afternoon in the final match of Round two of

1651
01:23:36,307 --> 01:23:40,067
Speaker 2: Super Rugby Pacific twenty twenty six, three thirty five kickoff.

1652
01:23:40,187 --> 01:23:44,187
Speaker 2: Full commentary available on Goldsport and iHeartRadio. Nick Porley has

1653
01:23:44,267 --> 01:23:47,187
Speaker 2: the call, he'll join us for a preview before three o'clock.

1654
01:23:47,907 --> 01:23:51,147
Speaker 2: We have a new national two hundred meter men's record holder,

1655
01:23:51,227 --> 01:23:54,467
Speaker 2: twenty point three to five, run by Tommy Tapoony in

1656
01:23:54,587 --> 01:23:57,267
Speaker 2: christ Church yesterday. Actually I think Nick Puley might have

1657
01:23:57,267 --> 01:24:00,467
Speaker 2: been commentating that race Gee gets around, doesn't he in

1658
01:24:00,587 --> 01:24:03,747
Speaker 2: a media sense. Tommy Tapoony's on the show, Madame ma

1659
01:24:03,827 --> 01:24:06,467
Speaker 2: Down's as well. Out of the Northern Brave. They have

1660
01:24:06,587 --> 01:24:09,227
Speaker 2: won their first ever piece of domestic silverware in the

1661
01:24:09,267 --> 01:24:12,307
Speaker 2: women's game, beating the Wellington Blaze and the Halliburn and

1662
01:24:12,347 --> 01:24:15,987
Speaker 2: Johnston Shield final yesterday at the basein Reserve. So how

1663
01:24:16,147 --> 01:24:18,547
Speaker 2: did they celebrate and what was the key to their victory?

1664
01:24:19,667 --> 01:24:22,907
Speaker 2: Eli just shortly out of the All Whites as well,

1665
01:24:23,307 --> 01:24:25,507
Speaker 2: just updating you on the cricket Elliot did that during

1666
01:24:25,587 --> 01:24:27,867
Speaker 2: our sports news at the top of the hour. Canterbury

1667
01:24:27,907 --> 01:24:31,427
Speaker 2: are almost done in their innings in the fort Trophy

1668
01:24:31,507 --> 01:24:34,507
Speaker 2: Grand Finals. Is the men's domestic camp of course, two

1669
01:24:34,627 --> 01:24:37,147
Speaker 2: ninety six for seven with three balls to go. So

1670
01:24:37,227 --> 01:24:39,027
Speaker 2: as I say that were one ninety four for one

1671
01:24:39,987 --> 01:24:43,787
Speaker 2: in the thirty fifth over, so at that stage I

1672
01:24:43,867 --> 01:24:45,787
Speaker 2: think I might have even said three point fifty plus.

1673
01:24:45,867 --> 01:24:48,987
Speaker 2: Looked on the cards. Central have done pretty well to

1674
01:24:49,027 --> 01:24:51,067
Speaker 2: pull them back. They have gone over three hundred ow

1675
01:24:51,107 --> 01:24:52,547
Speaker 2: three oh one for seven with a ball to go,

1676
01:24:53,227 --> 01:24:56,587
Speaker 2: but that is I guess fewer than perhaps the Stags

1677
01:24:56,627 --> 01:24:59,347
Speaker 2: thought they might be chasing a couple of hours ago.

1678
01:24:59,427 --> 01:25:02,387
Speaker 2: We'll keep eyes on the chase for you from the

1679
01:25:02,507 --> 01:25:06,307
Speaker 2: Central Stags. Our lines of communication are open eight hundred

1680
01:25:06,347 --> 01:25:08,427
Speaker 2: at eighty ten eighty will get you through on the phone.

1681
01:25:09,667 --> 01:25:11,907
Speaker 2: Send you text messages to nine two nine to two

1682
01:25:12,027 --> 01:25:15,347
Speaker 2: and emails to Jason at Newstalk SEDB dot co dot

1683
01:25:15,587 --> 01:25:18,947
Speaker 2: nz coming up nine past two. As we always do

1684
01:25:19,187 --> 01:25:21,547
Speaker 2: at this time on weekend sport, let's get you up

1685
01:25:21,547 --> 01:25:23,587
Speaker 2: to date with some of the things that you might

1686
01:25:23,667 --> 01:25:26,267
Speaker 2: not be up to date with, some of the things

1687
01:25:26,307 --> 01:25:28,667
Speaker 2: you may have missed that might have escaped your attention.

1688
01:25:29,187 --> 01:25:32,587
Speaker 2: In case you missed at Manchester City have kept the

1689
01:25:32,667 --> 01:25:35,547
Speaker 2: heat on Arsenal at the top of the Premier League

1690
01:25:35,547 --> 01:25:36,267
Speaker 2: Football table.

1691
01:25:37,067 --> 01:25:40,227
Speaker 12: A lovely reverse war from Samano Harland.

1692
01:25:41,467 --> 01:25:41,627
Speaker 6: Too.

1693
01:25:42,227 --> 01:25:47,027
Speaker 18: It's O'Reilly again, Haley lead again. The man with the

1694
01:25:47,107 --> 01:25:51,467
Speaker 18: most predatory ends thing turns provider honeys Nikol o'reiley who's

1695
01:25:51,547 --> 01:25:57,947
Speaker 18: arriving Manchester City two one thirty five minutes after meeting Tagma.

1696
01:25:59,147 --> 01:26:02,387
Speaker 2: A two to one win four. Manchester City two points

1697
01:26:02,427 --> 01:26:05,227
Speaker 2: behind Arsenal. Arsenal do though have now they don't have

1698
01:26:05,227 --> 01:26:07,667
Speaker 2: a game in hand. I just check that they're both

1699
01:26:07,747 --> 01:26:12,907
Speaker 2: on twenty seven games played, City just two points behind

1700
01:26:13,707 --> 01:26:18,147
Speaker 2: Anton Deepasquale has taken rates two of the Supercars season.

1701
01:26:18,547 --> 01:26:20,627
Speaker 2: But team eighteen and what it's done, this is going

1702
01:26:20,707 --> 01:26:21,987
Speaker 2: to be for them, the.

1703
01:26:22,067 --> 01:26:23,867
Speaker 12: Near relationship, that.

1704
01:26:24,027 --> 01:26:27,507
Speaker 15: Responsibility of flying the flag for Chevrolet.

1705
01:26:27,187 --> 01:26:27,747
Speaker 6: Is going to do it.

1706
01:26:28,147 --> 01:26:29,907
Speaker 12: He's gonna to cover the run of the flag.

1707
01:26:29,987 --> 01:26:32,027
Speaker 2: It's close really as closes.

1708
01:26:32,107 --> 01:26:35,387
Speaker 20: Last year had top team that's buying Holt his nerve

1709
01:26:35,467 --> 01:26:37,587
Speaker 20: in Si John mTOR.

1710
01:26:37,427 --> 01:26:40,227
Speaker 2: Ray to Super Rugby. The Blues went to Perth and

1711
01:26:40,347 --> 01:26:44,107
Speaker 2: picked up their first win of the season and it's

1712
01:26:44,387 --> 01:26:47,667
Speaker 2: fall from the title. Very will score.

1713
01:26:49,867 --> 01:26:54,867
Speaker 10: Another try for the Blues and it's Very who will.

1714
01:26:54,747 --> 01:26:55,427
Speaker 6: Get up with it.

1715
01:26:56,347 --> 01:26:59,147
Speaker 2: So they extend that lead. All that pressure that the

1716
01:26:59,227 --> 01:27:04,387
Speaker 2: force were putting on the valve explodes forty two thirty

1717
01:27:04,507 --> 01:27:07,907
Speaker 2: two the final score there. Ryan Fox still in a

1718
01:27:07,987 --> 01:27:10,427
Speaker 2: strong spot at Riviera golf Course.

1719
01:27:10,707 --> 01:27:14,947
Speaker 21: Ryan Fox after tenth Billy much easier ho location.

1720
01:27:16,027 --> 01:27:17,187
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was that easy.

1721
01:27:17,267 --> 01:27:21,227
Speaker 21: But Ryan Fox this is third, so hell of that

1722
01:27:21,347 --> 01:27:24,507
Speaker 21: remaining for Bertie Ryan Fox twenty eight of thirty one

1723
01:27:24,587 --> 01:27:27,147
Speaker 21: inside of ten feet so far make it twenty nine

1724
01:27:27,187 --> 01:27:27,827
Speaker 21: of thirty two.

1725
01:27:28,147 --> 01:27:30,827
Speaker 2: He's type for ninth at nine under. Jacob Bridgman running

1726
01:27:30,867 --> 01:27:34,347
Speaker 2: away with it nineteen under, but Fox still in touching distance,

1727
01:27:34,427 --> 01:27:38,307
Speaker 2: only four shots back of Rory McElroy who is currently second.

1728
01:27:38,907 --> 01:27:41,907
Speaker 2: And as mentioned, an historic day for the Northern Brave

1729
01:27:42,147 --> 01:27:45,787
Speaker 2: who have won their first ever piece of domestic women's

1730
01:27:45,787 --> 01:27:48,747
Speaker 2: silver ware out having to overcome a horror start to

1731
01:27:48,867 --> 01:27:52,547
Speaker 2: eventually beat the Wellington Blaze. That's where I want to

1732
01:27:52,587 --> 01:27:55,867
Speaker 2: point the responsibilities, big appeal.

1733
01:27:56,067 --> 01:28:00,067
Speaker 16: Big appeals are smari Yes, that's it the Brave, They've

1734
01:28:00,147 --> 01:28:00,787
Speaker 16: finally done it.

1735
01:28:03,507 --> 01:28:04,027
Speaker 12: Toby W.

1736
01:28:04,347 --> 01:28:07,507
Speaker 16: McKenzie has gone and then is the end of the

1737
01:28:07,627 --> 01:28:09,107
Speaker 16: blaze for.

1738
01:28:09,107 --> 01:28:14,267
Speaker 8: One hundred and fifteen and the Northern Brave first time winners.

1739
01:28:14,747 --> 01:28:15,827
Speaker 20: What a moment for them.

1740
01:28:16,667 --> 01:28:20,387
Speaker 1: When there's a line call, it's your call. Weekend Sport

1741
01:28:20,747 --> 01:28:25,467
Speaker 1: with Jason Fine News Talks V twelve past two. As mentioned,

1742
01:28:25,507 --> 01:28:27,147
Speaker 1: we'll get you inside the Northern Brave camp in the

1743
01:28:27,227 --> 01:28:30,747
Speaker 1: next little while. But the FIFA World Cup is getting

1744
01:28:30,907 --> 01:28:34,227
Speaker 1: ever close to the All Whites of course have qualified

1745
01:28:34,467 --> 01:28:37,867
Speaker 1: and are back home next month for warm up matches

1746
01:28:37,947 --> 01:28:41,147
Speaker 1: for the tournament against Finland and Chile. A big part

1747
01:28:41,187 --> 01:28:43,827
Speaker 1: of the All White squad in qualification and said to

1748
01:28:43,867 --> 01:28:47,107
Speaker 1: be at the World Cup as well, is attacker Elijah Just.

1749
01:28:48,027 --> 01:28:52,547
Speaker 2: That's a measured pass. Just just takes the lead for

1750
01:28:52,707 --> 01:28:53,347
Speaker 2: New Zealand.

1751
01:28:53,787 --> 01:28:57,987
Speaker 13: Well, that's against the run of play, classy finishing.

1752
01:28:57,667 --> 01:29:02,627
Speaker 18: By Eli Just and the delivery from staminis with first

1753
01:29:02,667 --> 01:29:05,547
Speaker 18: class and it's one nil.

1754
01:29:05,667 --> 01:29:08,987
Speaker 2: To News Eli, just as with us. Now, Eli, thanks

1755
01:29:09,027 --> 01:29:11,227
Speaker 2: for taking the time. Let's start with your club football.

1756
01:29:11,387 --> 01:29:15,307
Speaker 2: You move to Motherwell in Scotland from Denmark in July

1757
01:29:15,747 --> 01:29:17,867
Speaker 2: and in your first season in the Scottish Premier League

1758
01:29:17,907 --> 01:29:21,347
Speaker 2: you've played twenty three of the side's twenty six league games,

1759
01:29:21,707 --> 01:29:24,987
Speaker 2: five goals, six assists. You're playing a big part in

1760
01:29:25,107 --> 01:29:29,267
Speaker 2: their excellent season. What has enabled you to adjust so

1761
01:29:29,507 --> 01:29:32,667
Speaker 2: quickly to life at Motherwell and in the Scottish Premier League.

1762
01:29:33,387 --> 01:29:37,507
Speaker 22: Yeah, I think it's really probably exceeded my expectations and

1763
01:29:37,707 --> 01:29:39,507
Speaker 22: a lot of other people's expectations as well.

1764
01:29:39,547 --> 01:29:40,187
Speaker 23: How well we're doing.

1765
01:29:41,747 --> 01:29:45,227
Speaker 22: Yeah, the playing style and the coaching really suits me,

1766
01:29:45,307 --> 01:29:48,027
Speaker 22: so it's been quite easy for me to integrate to

1767
01:29:48,067 --> 01:29:51,307
Speaker 22: the team. Obviously, I was in Denmark and Austria before,

1768
01:29:51,387 --> 01:29:55,107
Speaker 22: so coming to Scotland a lot easier with the language

1769
01:29:55,867 --> 01:29:59,507
Speaker 22: and also some cultural things as well. It does feel well,

1770
01:29:59,787 --> 01:30:01,787
Speaker 22: it is a lot closer to New Zealand than Denmark

1771
01:30:01,787 --> 01:30:03,107
Speaker 22: and Ostria, so yeah, it's been really easy.

1772
01:30:03,547 --> 01:30:06,787
Speaker 2: How does the Scottish Premier League compare to what you're

1773
01:30:06,827 --> 01:30:09,187
Speaker 2: playing most recently in Denmark in terms of standard?

1774
01:30:11,587 --> 01:30:14,187
Speaker 22: It is really difficult to compare out. I think the

1775
01:30:14,427 --> 01:30:18,427
Speaker 22: Scottish Premiership is a lot higher than where I was

1776
01:30:18,427 --> 01:30:22,307
Speaker 22: playing in the second tier of Denmark, so it was

1777
01:30:22,387 --> 01:30:24,187
Speaker 22: definitely a step up for me. And at the same time,

1778
01:30:25,027 --> 01:30:27,587
Speaker 22: it is true when you play with better players your

1779
01:30:27,667 --> 01:30:31,267
Speaker 22: level also increases. So yeah, I think that's another reason

1780
01:30:31,307 --> 01:30:34,507
Speaker 22: why I've been able to do so well is that, Yeah,

1781
01:30:34,627 --> 01:30:37,147
Speaker 22: my teammates are also playing at such a high level.

1782
01:30:37,427 --> 01:30:39,627
Speaker 2: Scottish football's got a bit of a reputation for being

1783
01:30:39,747 --> 01:30:42,387
Speaker 2: quite physical, quite direct. How much of you had to

1784
01:30:42,427 --> 01:30:44,067
Speaker 2: adjust and adapt?

1785
01:30:46,827 --> 01:30:49,827
Speaker 23: Yeah, there there is an element of physicality. I think that.

1786
01:30:51,387 --> 01:30:53,987
Speaker 22: Probably my whole career, even going back all the way

1787
01:30:54,067 --> 01:30:58,267
Speaker 22: to amateur, and when I was younger, I've always been

1788
01:30:58,307 --> 01:31:00,627
Speaker 22: one of the smallest, so you know, you learn to

1789
01:31:00,707 --> 01:31:05,267
Speaker 22: deal with players who are bigger than you. And yeah,

1790
01:31:05,387 --> 01:31:06,947
Speaker 22: throughout my career, I've I've had to deal with it,

1791
01:31:07,067 --> 01:31:11,067
Speaker 22: so I feel like I'm pretty well equipped to handle it.

1792
01:31:11,187 --> 01:31:14,707
Speaker 22: And then, yeah, I mean I put quite a big

1793
01:31:16,187 --> 01:31:19,907
Speaker 22: emphasis on how I was going to affit, play defensively,

1794
01:31:20,027 --> 01:31:23,547
Speaker 22: making sure that I was fighting, just so that I

1795
01:31:23,627 --> 01:31:25,387
Speaker 22: guess the fans of my teammates knew that I wasn't

1796
01:31:25,507 --> 01:31:28,227
Speaker 22: just some small, little technical player who only want to

1797
01:31:28,227 --> 01:31:28,787
Speaker 22: play off the ball.

1798
01:31:29,507 --> 01:31:31,747
Speaker 2: In one of your all watch teammates, Jesse Randall going

1799
01:31:31,787 --> 01:31:33,827
Speaker 2: to be joining you over in Scotland in the next

1800
01:31:33,907 --> 01:31:36,827
Speaker 2: little while, signing for Dundee United from next season. Similar

1801
01:31:36,947 --> 01:31:39,587
Speaker 2: kind of player, I guess to you in some respects.

1802
01:31:39,587 --> 01:31:40,667
Speaker 2: How do you think he'll go over there?

1803
01:31:41,987 --> 01:31:42,947
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think he'll smash it.

1804
01:31:43,027 --> 01:31:46,467
Speaker 22: I mean I do watch the A League games when

1805
01:31:46,507 --> 01:31:48,827
Speaker 22: I can, the next and Auckland, and obviously he's been

1806
01:31:48,987 --> 01:31:52,347
Speaker 22: doing so well. And at Dundee United is a nice club,

1807
01:31:52,387 --> 01:31:54,747
Speaker 22: They've got good supporters and yeah, we exchange a few

1808
01:31:54,747 --> 01:31:56,187
Speaker 22: messages and I'm sure he'll do well.

1809
01:31:56,987 --> 01:32:00,467
Speaker 2: Four months less than four months now until the World Cup.

1810
01:32:00,787 --> 01:32:03,067
Speaker 2: How real is it starting to feel?

1811
01:32:05,187 --> 01:32:08,747
Speaker 22: Yes, I would say just over the last few weeks

1812
01:32:08,787 --> 01:32:11,627
Speaker 22: it started to sink in because I've been in charge

1813
01:32:11,627 --> 01:32:14,067
Speaker 22: of some admin, getting my parents tickets and sorting out

1814
01:32:14,067 --> 01:32:18,507
Speaker 22: flights things like that. But I would say that probably

1815
01:32:18,707 --> 01:32:22,067
Speaker 22: the magnitude of the Work Cup won't sit in until

1816
01:32:22,107 --> 01:32:26,827
Speaker 22: I'm there. Obviously, we've had so many games recently and

1817
01:32:26,907 --> 01:32:29,187
Speaker 22: we're doing one in the league, so my focus is,

1818
01:32:30,307 --> 01:32:31,067
Speaker 22: you know, elsewhere.

1819
01:32:31,347 --> 01:32:33,267
Speaker 23: But yeah, especially with these March.

1820
01:32:33,107 --> 01:32:35,947
Speaker 22: Games being back for the boys, and then yeah, every

1821
01:32:36,027 --> 01:32:38,507
Speaker 22: day as it gets closer, it does, yeah, start to

1822
01:32:38,547 --> 01:32:39,267
Speaker 22: sink in a little bit.

1823
01:32:39,827 --> 01:32:41,827
Speaker 2: There's a kid growing up, you know, and you know

1824
01:32:41,947 --> 01:32:44,587
Speaker 2: from Palmerston North making that drive down to ol a

1825
01:32:44,627 --> 01:32:49,387
Speaker 2: football academy, spent every other day really and learning your

1826
01:32:49,427 --> 01:32:52,587
Speaker 2: football and trade. Was there something that you dreamed of

1827
01:32:53,267 --> 01:32:53,907
Speaker 2: a World Cup?

1828
01:32:55,707 --> 01:32:55,907
Speaker 24: Yeah?

1829
01:32:56,067 --> 01:32:59,067
Speaker 22: Absolutely, I think just like many of the other boys.

1830
01:32:59,067 --> 01:33:02,227
Speaker 22: I was there in twenty ten at Westpac for the

1831
01:33:02,627 --> 01:33:05,627
Speaker 22: Bahrain game. You know, you watch the World Cup on TV.

1832
01:33:07,187 --> 01:33:11,947
Speaker 22: In some ways, I think it's almost disappointing that because

1833
01:33:11,987 --> 01:33:16,867
Speaker 22: the World Cup expanded, we didn't have that moment where

1834
01:33:16,907 --> 01:33:18,987
Speaker 22: we get through it into content to playoff. Obviously we

1835
01:33:18,987 --> 01:33:22,467
Speaker 22: had the disappointment against Costa Ricas, So yeah, I think

1836
01:33:22,547 --> 01:33:24,907
Speaker 22: for us it's so important that we go to this

1837
01:33:25,027 --> 01:33:28,307
Speaker 22: World Cup and we believe in ourselves because I think

1838
01:33:28,507 --> 01:33:29,627
Speaker 22: for the squad, our.

1839
01:33:31,107 --> 01:33:32,507
Speaker 23: Big moment is still coming.

1840
01:33:32,507 --> 01:33:35,467
Speaker 22: Obviously, achieving qualification was massive and it definitely wasn't easy

1841
01:33:35,947 --> 01:33:38,147
Speaker 22: in that game against New Kelly, but yeah, we still

1842
01:33:38,147 --> 01:33:39,227
Speaker 22: want to achieve something massive.

1843
01:33:39,507 --> 01:33:42,067
Speaker 2: Is there a genuine optimism in this All Whites team

1844
01:33:42,107 --> 01:33:44,027
Speaker 2: about what you can achieve at this World Cup?

1845
01:33:45,267 --> 01:33:45,427
Speaker 23: Yeah?

1846
01:33:45,467 --> 01:33:48,427
Speaker 22: Absolutely, we believe in ourselves, the quality of players we have,

1847
01:33:49,067 --> 01:33:54,147
Speaker 22: the depth we have. Yeah, we are expecting to get

1848
01:33:54,187 --> 01:33:58,187
Speaker 22: some results and I think going into every single game

1849
01:33:58,187 --> 01:34:01,147
Speaker 22: we're going to back ourselves. Of course, all the games

1850
01:34:01,187 --> 01:34:03,987
Speaker 22: are going to be different, but yeah, I think we'll

1851
01:34:04,027 --> 01:34:06,547
Speaker 22: see how these March games go as our last kind

1852
01:34:06,547 --> 01:34:08,267
Speaker 22: of preparation before we get there. But yeah, I know

1853
01:34:08,347 --> 01:34:11,347
Speaker 22: that everybody is looking forward to it, and yeah, I

1854
01:34:11,427 --> 01:34:12,867
Speaker 22: think belief is probably the big one.

1855
01:34:13,307 --> 01:34:14,627
Speaker 2: You've been part of this All Whites team for a

1856
01:34:14,667 --> 01:34:18,307
Speaker 2: while now, six years, forty caps. How different a player

1857
01:34:18,427 --> 01:34:21,787
Speaker 2: are you from the ELI? Just to debut for the

1858
01:34:21,827 --> 01:34:24,627
Speaker 2: All Whites in November of twenty nineteen.

1859
01:34:26,307 --> 01:34:29,067
Speaker 23: Yeah, very different. I can remember that that game in Island.

1860
01:34:29,067 --> 01:34:30,747
Speaker 23: I was extremely nervous.

1861
01:34:32,347 --> 01:34:35,867
Speaker 22: Meeting some players who I'd idolized growing up, playing with

1862
01:34:35,907 --> 01:34:40,547
Speaker 22: some pretty experienced players, and then yeah, it was you know,

1863
01:34:40,747 --> 01:34:43,267
Speaker 22: huge faith and Danny to throw not only me but

1864
01:34:43,347 --> 01:34:45,587
Speaker 22: a few of the other boys in for their first game,

1865
01:34:45,627 --> 01:34:49,387
Speaker 22: and yeah, I just remember the nerves, and then it

1866
01:34:49,547 --> 01:34:52,147
Speaker 22: is kind of crazy to think that there's been forty games,

1867
01:34:52,267 --> 01:34:56,187
Speaker 22: or said nine games since then, and now I'm not

1868
01:34:56,667 --> 01:35:00,427
Speaker 22: one of the older boys but somewhat experienced. So yeah,

1869
01:35:00,587 --> 01:35:03,667
Speaker 22: definitely a lot different as a player, also as a person.

1870
01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:07,107
Speaker 2: Since qualifying against New Kelly, you've played some high quality

1871
01:35:07,147 --> 01:35:09,547
Speaker 2: opposition back end of last year or in the second

1872
01:35:09,547 --> 01:35:13,627
Speaker 2: half of last year and often losing narrowly. What's it

1873
01:35:13,707 --> 01:35:17,347
Speaker 2: going to take to turn those narrow losses into results

1874
01:35:17,667 --> 01:35:20,427
Speaker 2: at the World Cup that will allow you to to

1875
01:35:20,667 --> 01:35:21,507
Speaker 2: get out of that group.

1876
01:35:23,227 --> 01:35:25,907
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, we know how difficult it's going to be,

1877
01:35:25,987 --> 01:35:28,827
Speaker 22: and we do have experience, like you said, playing these

1878
01:35:28,947 --> 01:35:32,667
Speaker 22: these tough games. I mean, I can think back to

1879
01:35:32,707 --> 01:35:37,107
Speaker 22: the last tour against Exchdoor and Columbia. I think Ecuador

1880
01:35:38,627 --> 01:35:41,627
Speaker 22: they were very good and to be fair, looking back,

1881
01:35:41,867 --> 01:35:43,787
Speaker 22: I think we would have had to have done something

1882
01:35:43,907 --> 01:35:45,627
Speaker 22: very special in that game to get something. By the

1883
01:35:45,747 --> 01:35:47,747
Speaker 22: Columbia game, we were well in it. I thought we

1884
01:35:47,787 --> 01:35:52,627
Speaker 22: played really well. Yeah, I mean probably for us, the

1885
01:35:52,667 --> 01:35:55,667
Speaker 22: most important thing is concentration of all times, making sure

1886
01:35:55,747 --> 01:35:57,947
Speaker 22: we're together, as you know, and all on the same page.

1887
01:35:59,387 --> 01:36:05,067
Speaker 22: These March windows will be really important too, maybe change

1888
01:36:05,107 --> 01:36:07,947
Speaker 22: our mindset a little bit on how do we want

1889
01:36:07,987 --> 01:36:10,067
Speaker 22: to do things as a team to now we know

1890
01:36:10,187 --> 01:36:11,907
Speaker 22: exactly what we're going to do and this is the

1891
01:36:11,947 --> 01:36:14,627
Speaker 22: time we need to do it. So yeah, we'll be interesting, obviously,

1892
01:36:14,707 --> 01:36:18,747
Speaker 22: marg And then we'll have some preparation before the World Cup,

1893
01:36:19,987 --> 01:36:21,947
Speaker 22: and yeah, I think everyone will just come together and

1894
01:36:22,067 --> 01:36:23,187
Speaker 22: everyone will be on the same page.

1895
01:36:23,547 --> 01:36:25,747
Speaker 2: And there's a solid core of players who have been

1896
01:36:25,787 --> 01:36:27,627
Speaker 2: with you in the All Whites these last six years,

1897
01:36:28,147 --> 01:36:30,147
Speaker 2: you know, and I know you've played with many of

1898
01:36:30,227 --> 01:36:32,987
Speaker 2: them growing up as well, you know, Matt Garbett, Marco Staminich, Libby,

1899
01:36:33,467 --> 01:36:36,467
Speaker 2: Chris Wood, Joe Bell, Tim Payne, Michael Boxall, Callum macaw

1900
01:36:36,507 --> 01:36:38,787
Speaker 2: at Nando. You know, there's a lot of players who

1901
01:36:39,187 --> 01:36:40,787
Speaker 2: have been a solid core of the All Whites for

1902
01:36:40,827 --> 01:36:42,707
Speaker 2: the last six years. So how much does that help

1903
01:36:42,987 --> 01:36:45,667
Speaker 2: given that you only really come together infrequently.

1904
01:36:47,507 --> 01:36:51,187
Speaker 22: Yeah, it is really helpful, not only because of the

1905
01:36:51,227 --> 01:36:53,827
Speaker 22: connection we have already, but also and how we can

1906
01:36:53,947 --> 01:36:56,587
Speaker 22: react when things maybe aren't going so well. Because we

1907
01:36:56,747 --> 01:37:01,667
Speaker 22: have that understanding of each other, there's never any personal

1908
01:37:02,147 --> 01:37:04,227
Speaker 22: issues that get if that makes sense. When we're trying

1909
01:37:04,267 --> 01:37:07,667
Speaker 22: to figure things out. Everyone is open, everyone respects each other.

1910
01:37:07,747 --> 01:37:10,707
Speaker 22: So yeah, I'm sure there will be moments at the

1911
01:37:10,707 --> 01:37:14,027
Speaker 22: World Cup where things are difficult, and that's where I

1912
01:37:14,147 --> 01:37:18,147
Speaker 22: think our yeah connection will really benefit us.

1913
01:37:18,587 --> 01:37:20,667
Speaker 2: And just to finish back home next month for these

1914
01:37:20,707 --> 01:37:23,507
Speaker 2: games against Finland and Chile. How much are you looking

1915
01:37:23,547 --> 01:37:26,947
Speaker 2: forward to those matches on home soil as your World

1916
01:37:26,987 --> 01:37:28,907
Speaker 2: Cup preparation really does start ramping up.

1917
01:37:30,227 --> 01:37:34,507
Speaker 22: Yeah, extremely, extremely looking forward to it. I didn't quite

1918
01:37:34,587 --> 01:37:38,267
Speaker 22: get back home for the Christmas break because Scotland doesn't break,

1919
01:37:38,307 --> 01:37:40,587
Speaker 22: so yeah, looking forward to getting home. It's been a

1920
01:37:40,627 --> 01:37:43,387
Speaker 22: while since I was in New Zealand and then yeah,

1921
01:37:43,427 --> 01:37:46,787
Speaker 22: I mean, because we've got this level of opposition in

1922
01:37:46,787 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 22: New Zealand, it's also an opportunity.

1923
01:37:48,627 --> 01:37:50,827
Speaker 23: For us to really show the home fans that.

1924
01:37:52,427 --> 01:37:53,987
Speaker 22: We're a team that's ready to go over to the

1925
01:37:54,027 --> 01:37:55,987
Speaker 22: World Cup, so yeah, I think everyone's looking forward to it.

1926
01:37:56,027 --> 01:37:59,147
Speaker 23: I know there's a few players maybe dealing.

1927
01:37:58,947 --> 01:38:00,547
Speaker 22: With some injury, so I'm not one hundred scent sure

1928
01:38:00,627 --> 01:38:03,547
Speaker 22: on the strength of the squad, but I know that

1929
01:38:03,987 --> 01:38:08,627
Speaker 22: everyone that is available will be yeah, getting themselves on

1930
01:38:08,667 --> 01:38:10,587
Speaker 22: the plane home. So yeah, looking forward to it.

1931
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Speaker 5: Yep.

1932
01:38:10,987 --> 01:38:14,667
Speaker 2: So Eli, thanks for chatting. Congratulations on what is turning

1933
01:38:14,707 --> 01:38:16,627
Speaker 2: into a terrific season for you. But mother Well looking

1934
01:38:16,667 --> 01:38:18,987
Speaker 2: forward to seeing you back home next month. Yes, thank you, No,

1935
01:38:19,107 --> 01:38:22,227
Speaker 2: thank you, Eli. Just there from Motherwell in Scotland and

1936
01:38:22,307 --> 01:38:25,307
Speaker 2: the All Whites who play Finland on the night of Friday,

1937
01:38:25,387 --> 01:38:28,467
Speaker 2: March twenty seven at Eden Park in Auckland, and then

1938
01:38:28,867 --> 01:38:31,027
Speaker 2: on the Monday that follows that they take on Chile

1939
01:38:31,187 --> 01:38:34,067
Speaker 2: at the same location. So a good chance to wish

1940
01:38:34,107 --> 01:38:35,867
Speaker 2: the All Whites well before they head off to the

1941
01:38:35,907 --> 01:38:40,027
Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup in June and July twenty two minutes

1942
01:38:40,147 --> 01:38:43,307
Speaker 2: past two, let's flick across to cricket. The Northern Brave

1943
01:38:43,587 --> 01:38:48,107
Speaker 2: women have claimed their first national cricket title in any format.

1944
01:38:48,747 --> 01:38:51,667
Speaker 2: That's where I want to point the responsibilities.

1945
01:38:52,627 --> 01:38:53,227
Speaker 17: Big appeal.

1946
01:38:53,427 --> 01:38:55,227
Speaker 25: Big appeals are Samari Yes, that's it.

1947
01:38:56,587 --> 01:38:57,107
Speaker 12: The Brave.

1948
01:38:57,227 --> 01:38:58,187
Speaker 16: They've finally done it.

1949
01:39:00,947 --> 01:39:01,347
Speaker 6: L B. W.

1950
01:39:01,667 --> 01:39:05,747
Speaker 14: McKenzie has gone and that is the end of the Blaze.

1951
01:39:06,427 --> 01:39:10,907
Speaker 8: For one hundred and fifteen and the Northern Brave first

1952
01:39:10,987 --> 01:39:11,587
Speaker 8: time winners.

1953
01:39:12,067 --> 01:39:14,267
Speaker 2: What a moment for them, Yeah, what a moment. Indeed,

1954
01:39:14,307 --> 01:39:17,267
Speaker 2: the Brave beating the Wellington Blaze by sixty seven runs

1955
01:39:17,347 --> 01:39:21,027
Speaker 2: yesterday to lift the Halliburton Johnston Shield. A valiant bottom

1956
01:39:21,147 --> 01:39:23,867
Speaker 2: order stand or a rearguard action you might call it,

1957
01:39:23,987 --> 01:39:26,627
Speaker 2: got the Brave through to one eighty two, and then

1958
01:39:26,667 --> 01:39:30,507
Speaker 2: their accurate bowling kept the dangerous Wellington batting lineup and check,

1959
01:39:30,627 --> 01:39:34,187
Speaker 2: eventually bowling them out for one hundred and fifteen. Batting

1960
01:39:34,187 --> 01:39:36,267
Speaker 2: at number nine, Man of My Downs scored a very

1961
01:39:36,307 --> 01:39:40,227
Speaker 2: important twenty five runs and then took three for twenty six,

1962
01:39:40,827 --> 01:39:44,267
Speaker 2: including the wickets of both of the Curse sisters Mealy

1963
01:39:44,467 --> 01:39:47,147
Speaker 2: and Jess Man of My Downs as well. This How

1964
01:39:47,147 --> 01:39:48,627
Speaker 2: are the celebrations last night.

1965
01:39:50,867 --> 01:39:54,507
Speaker 25: Big? To be completely honest, Yeah, we were absolutely stoked

1966
01:39:54,547 --> 01:39:57,507
Speaker 25: to get over the line. Obviously, Wellington a very strong

1967
01:39:57,587 --> 01:40:01,267
Speaker 25: tide with some pretty big impact players. So yeah, a

1968
01:40:01,867 --> 01:40:04,907
Speaker 25: very big celebration and yeah, I'm happy to get over

1969
01:40:04,947 --> 01:40:05,307
Speaker 25: the line.

1970
01:40:05,827 --> 01:40:08,107
Speaker 2: Wonderful. Before we took about the game itself. Across the

1971
01:40:08,187 --> 01:40:10,907
Speaker 2: regular season, you were the standout team. You dropped only

1972
01:40:10,987 --> 01:40:14,147
Speaker 2: one match, you finished ten points ahead of everybody else

1973
01:40:14,187 --> 01:40:17,307
Speaker 2: to qualify into the final. Did it feel like this

1974
01:40:17,427 --> 01:40:20,187
Speaker 2: would be the summer that you won the comp.

1975
01:40:21,867 --> 01:40:23,587
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think so. I think there was a bit

1976
01:40:23,627 --> 01:40:27,547
Speaker 25: of feeling about through the competition. We've worked really hard

1977
01:40:27,587 --> 01:40:30,307
Speaker 25: as a group over the last few seasons. Our team's

1978
01:40:30,307 --> 01:40:32,347
Speaker 25: really young, so I think we've come a long way

1979
01:40:33,387 --> 01:40:35,907
Speaker 25: that and I think, yeah, one standout thing for our

1980
01:40:35,987 --> 01:40:39,507
Speaker 25: team is how close we are on and off the field,

1981
01:40:39,547 --> 01:40:42,387
Speaker 25: which I think helps with our performances. And yeah, it's

1982
01:40:42,427 --> 01:40:44,347
Speaker 25: just really cool to get, I guess, to put it

1983
01:40:44,387 --> 01:40:46,547
Speaker 25: all together and finally win the championship.

1984
01:40:47,147 --> 01:40:49,507
Speaker 2: With regards to the on field staff, what did the

1985
01:40:49,587 --> 01:40:54,547
Speaker 2: team do particularly well to be so incredibly consistent in

1986
01:40:54,907 --> 01:40:56,907
Speaker 2: a format? I mean, all the white ball formats are

1987
01:40:56,947 --> 01:41:00,667
Speaker 2: which can be changeable. What was behind your excellent consistency

1988
01:41:01,067 --> 01:41:02,067
Speaker 2: across the round robin?

1989
01:41:04,227 --> 01:41:07,787
Speaker 25: I think just having really clear and some plans. We've

1990
01:41:07,827 --> 01:41:11,267
Speaker 25: got a coach that really backs us, and yeah, it

1991
01:41:11,387 --> 01:41:13,107
Speaker 25: just just allows us to go out there and play

1992
01:41:13,147 --> 01:41:17,027
Speaker 25: with freedom. So yeah, I mean there's not we're not

1993
01:41:17,187 --> 01:41:21,787
Speaker 25: really you know, coven to nerves and scared about the

1994
01:41:21,827 --> 01:41:24,147
Speaker 25: opposition that we play. We go out there with confidence

1995
01:41:24,227 --> 01:41:26,347
Speaker 25: and we like to keep it as simple as possible

1996
01:41:26,387 --> 01:41:27,267
Speaker 25: and that just seems to.

1997
01:41:27,227 --> 01:41:27,747
Speaker 6: Work for us.

1998
01:41:28,787 --> 01:41:31,147
Speaker 2: And when it came to your bowling across the team,

1999
01:41:31,227 --> 01:41:35,187
Speaker 2: you had five bowlers who were in double double figures

2000
01:41:35,547 --> 01:41:37,947
Speaker 2: in terms of wickets. So how key was it to

2001
01:41:37,987 --> 01:41:41,387
Speaker 2: be able to share the wicket taking load around across

2002
01:41:41,427 --> 01:41:41,827
Speaker 2: the season.

2003
01:41:43,547 --> 01:41:43,747
Speaker 21: Yeah.

2004
01:41:43,787 --> 01:41:45,787
Speaker 25: I think that's a really key part of our team

2005
01:41:45,907 --> 01:41:49,267
Speaker 25: is that everybody steps up at different moments. It's not

2006
01:41:49,387 --> 01:41:52,347
Speaker 25: always the same one or two people, you know, winning

2007
01:41:52,467 --> 01:41:54,387
Speaker 25: us game. So I think that's that's a really cool

2008
01:41:54,787 --> 01:41:57,507
Speaker 25: thing that we've got in our squad. Everyone's contributing to

2009
01:41:57,547 --> 01:41:59,827
Speaker 25: our wins. So yeah, that's a huge one for us

2010
01:41:59,867 --> 01:42:00,667
Speaker 25: as a as a group.

2011
01:42:01,107 --> 01:42:05,027
Speaker 2: All Right, so you're batting first yesterday, but you're ninety

2012
01:42:05,147 --> 01:42:07,427
Speaker 2: four for seven when you walk out there. What was

2013
01:42:07,467 --> 01:42:08,547
Speaker 2: the mindset at that point?

2014
01:42:12,067 --> 01:42:14,427
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean a bit of nerves around. I'm sure

2015
01:42:14,587 --> 01:42:17,787
Speaker 25: obviously we would have liked our top order to have

2016
01:42:17,947 --> 01:42:20,187
Speaker 25: gone on a little bit longer, but obviously cricket works

2017
01:42:20,227 --> 01:42:22,707
Speaker 25: in that way sometimes, so I guess just going out

2018
01:42:22,747 --> 01:42:24,907
Speaker 25: in that moment I knew that we had to take

2019
01:42:24,947 --> 01:42:27,587
Speaker 25: it as deep as possible. We knew that batting the

2020
01:42:27,587 --> 01:42:30,347
Speaker 25: whole of the overs or as close to as possible

2021
01:42:30,467 --> 01:42:32,547
Speaker 25: was going to give us the best chance at scoring

2022
01:42:32,547 --> 01:42:35,267
Speaker 25: a few more runs. So yeah, I'm just glad that

2023
01:42:35,667 --> 01:42:37,987
Speaker 25: I was able to contribute. And I think hollytops I

2024
01:42:38,267 --> 01:42:40,907
Speaker 25: was out there with at the moment. She was super

2025
01:42:40,947 --> 01:42:42,547
Speaker 25: calm and collected out there, so it made.

2026
01:42:42,467 --> 01:42:43,067
Speaker 8: It easy for me.

2027
01:42:43,947 --> 01:42:45,227
Speaker 2: So you got through it a one eight to two

2028
01:42:46,227 --> 01:42:47,907
Speaker 2: in the innings break, did you feel as though you

2029
01:42:47,987 --> 01:42:49,307
Speaker 2: were a good chance to defend that?

2030
01:42:53,387 --> 01:42:53,587
Speaker 5: Yes?

2031
01:42:53,667 --> 01:42:56,667
Speaker 25: And no, we obviously knew that they had some pretty

2032
01:42:56,707 --> 01:42:59,187
Speaker 25: big stars in their lineup, obviously both Cursed Sisters and

2033
01:42:59,227 --> 01:43:01,627
Speaker 25: Georgia Plummer and the White Firm set up, and you know,

2034
01:43:01,787 --> 01:43:06,307
Speaker 25: those have been three very consistent performance to Wellington. So yeah,

2035
01:43:06,467 --> 01:43:08,747
Speaker 25: we knew that we had to take those three wickets

2036
01:43:08,907 --> 01:43:10,507
Speaker 25: really early on if we wanted to have a shot,

2037
01:43:10,667 --> 01:43:13,347
Speaker 25: And yeah, that we did and it all worked out

2038
01:43:13,347 --> 01:43:13,867
Speaker 25: in our favor.

2039
01:43:14,427 --> 01:43:16,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got, as I mentioned at the top,

2040
01:43:16,347 --> 01:43:19,307
Speaker 2: the wickets of both Cursed Sisters. How big a wicket

2041
01:43:19,427 --> 01:43:21,747
Speaker 2: was Melely Curz in particular for you?

2042
01:43:23,467 --> 01:43:23,627
Speaker 8: Oh?

2043
01:43:23,907 --> 01:43:28,467
Speaker 25: Huge, Like obviously she's probably one of, if not the

2044
01:43:28,547 --> 01:43:31,547
Speaker 25: best player in the world at the moment. So yeah,

2045
01:43:31,667 --> 01:43:33,867
Speaker 25: I'm just super stoked to have been able to contribute

2046
01:43:33,867 --> 01:43:36,667
Speaker 25: to my teams when and yeah, taking that wicket was

2047
01:43:36,707 --> 01:43:38,987
Speaker 25: super important for us. I know, that's a pretty game

2048
01:43:39,067 --> 01:43:42,027
Speaker 25: changing wicket to take, So yeah, I'm just spoked with that.

2049
01:43:42,987 --> 01:43:45,027
Speaker 2: Was there a point during Wellington's innings when you knew

2050
01:43:45,067 --> 01:43:45,867
Speaker 2: you had the game won?

2051
01:43:49,347 --> 01:43:49,547
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2052
01:43:49,667 --> 01:43:53,427
Speaker 25: I think after we take those first few wickets up front.

2053
01:43:53,507 --> 01:43:56,507
Speaker 25: Obviously the wickets have as I said, Georgia and merely

2054
01:43:56,627 --> 01:43:59,307
Speaker 25: Jess and even you know, Rebecca Durns has been a

2055
01:43:59,387 --> 01:44:01,787
Speaker 25: constant performer for them, So I guess after we had

2056
01:44:01,867 --> 01:44:05,267
Speaker 25: those first few wickets down, Yeah, I thought we were

2057
01:44:05,307 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 25: in with a pretty good chance that point.

2058
01:44:07,347 --> 01:44:08,987
Speaker 2: All right, Well you've got the job done. And of

2059
01:44:09,067 --> 01:44:11,987
Speaker 2: course during the week, two of your teammates, Nancy Patel

2060
01:44:12,027 --> 01:44:14,667
Speaker 2: and Kaylee Knight were named in the White Fern squad

2061
01:44:14,707 --> 01:44:17,947
Speaker 2: for the first time. They'll face Himbabwe in the upcoming series.

2062
01:44:18,347 --> 01:44:20,547
Speaker 2: Have you been able to celebrate that with them in

2063
01:44:20,947 --> 01:44:22,107
Speaker 2: the team environment as well?

2064
01:44:23,467 --> 01:44:23,667
Speaker 19: Yeah?

2065
01:44:23,747 --> 01:44:27,707
Speaker 25: Absolutely, Our whole squad is incredibly proud and to not

2066
01:44:27,827 --> 01:44:31,187
Speaker 25: wait to watch him. Tellett obviously, Nancy has been a

2067
01:44:31,267 --> 01:44:33,347
Speaker 25: constant performer for us for a long time and Kaylee

2068
01:44:33,467 --> 01:44:37,627
Speaker 25: has grown incredibly over the last couple of months. So yeah,

2069
01:44:37,627 --> 01:44:39,747
Speaker 25: we just absolutely smoked for them, and yeah, I can't

2070
01:44:39,787 --> 01:44:41,267
Speaker 25: wait to watch them do it on the big stage.

2071
01:44:41,867 --> 01:44:42,027
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2072
01:44:42,067 --> 01:44:45,667
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to you in the rest of the Northern Brave. Madama,

2073
01:44:45,787 --> 01:44:48,707
Speaker 2: a history breaking win at the Basemin Reserve yesterday for

2074
01:44:48,947 --> 01:44:51,707
Speaker 2: you and the team. Thanks for chatting to us about.

2075
01:44:51,467 --> 01:44:54,987
Speaker 25: It this afternoon, no worries, thanks for having mere good.

2076
01:44:54,867 --> 01:44:56,667
Speaker 2: On you, madam. Thanks indeed, Madam. My Down's there a

2077
01:44:56,707 --> 01:44:59,467
Speaker 2: big part of the Northern Brave effort yesterday as they

2078
01:44:59,747 --> 01:45:02,547
Speaker 2: won the Hallibird and Johnston Shield. That's how domestic women's

2079
01:45:02,547 --> 01:45:05,587
Speaker 2: fifty over competition for the very first time, beating the

2080
01:45:05,627 --> 01:45:09,067
Speaker 2: Wellington Blake in the final two twenty nine. Let's take

2081
01:45:09,067 --> 01:45:11,987
Speaker 2: a break. More history was made yesterday, this time in

2082
01:45:12,107 --> 01:45:14,707
Speaker 2: christ Church and this time in track and field. We

2083
01:45:14,867 --> 01:45:19,267
Speaker 2: have a new two hundred meter national record holder twenty

2084
01:45:19,427 --> 01:45:22,867
Speaker 2: point three to five seconds, run yesterday by Tommy Tapoony.

2085
01:45:23,147 --> 01:45:24,627
Speaker 2: He's going to join us for a yarn after this.

2086
01:45:25,347 --> 01:45:29,667
Speaker 1: Hard tackles, harder opinions. We can sport with Jason Pinne

2087
01:45:29,867 --> 01:45:33,907
Speaker 1: and GJ. Gudlerhomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

2088
01:45:33,787 --> 01:45:37,107
Speaker 2: News Talks at B News Talks AB and we can Sport.

2089
01:45:37,187 --> 01:45:41,227
Speaker 2: Twenty eight minutes away from three, sprinter Tommy Tapooni has

2090
01:45:41,387 --> 01:45:44,467
Speaker 2: etched his name into the national record books at the

2091
01:45:44,547 --> 01:45:46,747
Speaker 2: International Track Meet in christ Church.

2092
01:45:47,467 --> 01:45:49,827
Speaker 20: The means two hundred meters here at the ICM, and

2093
01:45:49,867 --> 01:45:53,147
Speaker 20: already Tapoony goes past.

2094
01:45:54,347 --> 01:45:54,907
Speaker 12: Saunders.

2095
01:45:55,107 --> 01:45:59,147
Speaker 20: But here comes revl Lewis winding up. And that's another

2096
01:45:59,267 --> 01:46:04,547
Speaker 20: battle between Topoony and reval Lewis. But Tapoony wins it

2097
01:46:04,627 --> 01:46:08,267
Speaker 20: again unofficially twenty point one to nine. In fact, the

2098
01:46:09,067 --> 01:46:13,307
Speaker 20: updated time through twenty point three five And I'll tell

2099
01:46:13,307 --> 01:46:16,707
Speaker 20: you what understated this here, but this might be national record,

2100
01:46:16,987 --> 01:46:19,387
Speaker 20: another two hundred national record.

2101
01:46:19,707 --> 01:46:23,227
Speaker 2: It certainly was Tommy Tapoony eclipsing the national two hundred

2102
01:46:23,227 --> 01:46:27,187
Speaker 2: meter record running twenty point three five seconds, dipping under

2103
01:46:27,267 --> 01:46:31,227
Speaker 2: Joseph Miller's twenty seventeen national mark of twenty point three

2104
01:46:31,547 --> 01:46:35,307
Speaker 2: seven seconds. Three others in the race ran under twenty

2105
01:46:35,387 --> 01:46:39,067
Speaker 2: one seconds as well, so some hot times in christ Church.

2106
01:46:39,347 --> 01:46:43,427
Speaker 2: Tommy Tapooney is with us. Congratulations mate. Twenty point three five,

2107
01:46:43,547 --> 01:46:45,347
Speaker 2: a new national record. Did you know it was that

2108
01:46:45,547 --> 01:46:47,667
Speaker 2: fast when you crossed the line at the end?

2109
01:46:48,987 --> 01:46:51,107
Speaker 24: No, I had, I had no idea. I mean I

2110
01:46:51,227 --> 01:46:53,347
Speaker 24: had some I had some good training sessions in the

2111
01:46:53,387 --> 01:46:55,307
Speaker 24: week leading up. We were we were thinking I was

2112
01:46:55,827 --> 01:47:00,147
Speaker 24: maybe all going well, twenty high, twenty point fours. But yeah,

2113
01:47:00,307 --> 01:47:02,827
Speaker 24: round twenty point three to five it was. It was

2114
01:47:02,907 --> 01:47:03,867
Speaker 24: quite a nice surprise.

2115
01:47:04,307 --> 01:47:06,587
Speaker 2: I bet it was. Was the national record some that

2116
01:47:06,787 --> 01:47:09,187
Speaker 2: has been in your sights, something you've been targeting.

2117
01:47:10,907 --> 01:47:11,587
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely.

2118
01:47:11,827 --> 01:47:15,787
Speaker 24: We I did a couple of four's last season and

2119
01:47:15,867 --> 01:47:17,867
Speaker 24: then we were sort of sort of trying to decide

2120
01:47:18,187 --> 01:47:21,227
Speaker 24: decide where to go, and then we decided to go

2121
01:47:21,467 --> 01:47:24,027
Speaker 24: to go with the twos and see.

2122
01:47:23,627 --> 01:47:24,107
Speaker 6: That goal up.

2123
01:47:24,147 --> 01:47:26,867
Speaker 24: So, yeah, break to break that national record, but we

2124
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Speaker 24: weren't expecting it to do it this early, So it's nice.

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Speaker 24: It's it's a good lead internationals to hopefully run even

2126
01:47:33,907 --> 01:47:37,627
Speaker 24: faster than aussy nationals and Oceania is from there.

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Speaker 2: What was it about the two hundred meters that they

2128
01:47:40,747 --> 01:47:42,787
Speaker 2: got your landing on that rather than the four hundred

2129
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Speaker 2: or from the one hundred, which I know you're running

2130
01:47:44,387 --> 01:47:44,987
Speaker 2: the past as well.

2131
01:47:47,147 --> 01:47:51,107
Speaker 24: Yeah, the the two's it's been my favorite distance since

2132
01:47:51,187 --> 01:47:53,987
Speaker 24: I was a kid. But with the ones, like you know,

2133
01:47:54,147 --> 01:47:57,467
Speaker 24: ten flat, that's obviously all nine nine nine is a

2134
01:47:57,507 --> 01:47:59,747
Speaker 24: real good time to run. But for me, that's like

2135
01:48:00,547 --> 01:48:02,787
Speaker 24: it's not really where where I see myself.

2136
01:48:02,827 --> 01:48:04,107
Speaker 6: But you know, you have to have speed.

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Speaker 24: So for right now, the twos were kind of what

2138
01:48:07,747 --> 01:48:10,027
Speaker 24: we were focusing on because potentially could go to the

2139
01:48:10,067 --> 01:48:12,707
Speaker 24: four hundreds later on down the line. But you know,

2140
01:48:12,747 --> 01:48:15,387
Speaker 24: if you look at all of the most elite four

2141
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Speaker 24: hundred runners in the world, they're all really really quick.

2142
01:48:18,547 --> 01:48:21,227
Speaker 24: I mean some of them even running under twenty seconds,

2143
01:48:21,627 --> 01:48:23,747
Speaker 24: So we know that's kind of where we need to

2144
01:48:23,827 --> 01:48:25,187
Speaker 24: be if we want to be, you know, on the

2145
01:48:25,387 --> 01:48:26,507
Speaker 24: performing on the highest level.

2146
01:48:27,147 --> 01:48:29,787
Speaker 2: So how favorable were the conditions for you yesterday for

2147
01:48:29,867 --> 01:48:30,267
Speaker 2: this race?

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01:48:32,547 --> 01:48:34,427
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were, they were pretty good.

2149
01:48:34,427 --> 01:48:35,987
Speaker 24: It was it was chilly down there, I think with

2150
01:48:36,147 --> 01:48:38,467
Speaker 24: the with the wind chill it was it was fourteen

2151
01:48:38,947 --> 01:48:42,027
Speaker 24: degrees but the wind, the wind was real good. I mean,

2152
01:48:42,267 --> 01:48:44,827
Speaker 24: they rose the Elliott ran the national record for the

2153
01:48:44,867 --> 01:48:47,147
Speaker 24: women down there a few years ago. It's the wind,

2154
01:48:47,227 --> 01:48:50,907
Speaker 24: I think it's northeasterlyes so it comes in through the

2155
01:48:50,987 --> 01:48:53,587
Speaker 24: beIN really nice but it's kind of crossed, so once

2156
01:48:53,627 --> 01:48:55,907
Speaker 24: you hit the home straight, it's not it's not right

2157
01:48:55,947 --> 01:48:56,907
Speaker 24: behind you, which.

2158
01:48:56,787 --> 01:48:57,467
Speaker 6: Is how we got.

2159
01:48:57,507 --> 01:48:59,307
Speaker 24: We got lucky with the with the wind menter there,

2160
01:48:59,347 --> 01:49:03,027
Speaker 24: but yeah, flying flying off the beans and just take

2161
01:49:03,067 --> 01:49:03,627
Speaker 24: it from there.

2162
01:49:03,627 --> 01:49:04,867
Speaker 6: And then it worked out pretty well.

2163
01:49:05,267 --> 01:49:06,587
Speaker 2: Nice. So it gives you a bit of a push

2164
01:49:06,587 --> 01:49:08,587
Speaker 2: around the bend, in other words, the wind does, and

2165
01:49:08,627 --> 01:49:13,107
Speaker 2: then then then down the home straight you go, yeah, yeah.

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01:49:13,027 --> 01:49:16,467
Speaker 24: It does, definitely. It's it's almost like it helps you

2167
01:49:16,627 --> 01:49:18,867
Speaker 24: be a bit more efficient and save energy. But yeah,

2168
01:49:19,027 --> 01:49:20,587
Speaker 24: the winds real.

2169
01:49:20,507 --> 01:49:22,187
Speaker 6: Swirirly, so we got pretty lucky.

2170
01:49:22,187 --> 01:49:27,547
Speaker 24: It owned the girls had had a negative and one

2171
01:49:27,627 --> 01:49:29,267
Speaker 24: hundred they had needed three point three, but yeah, and

2172
01:49:29,267 --> 01:49:31,147
Speaker 24: the two hundred they had they had a head wind

2173
01:49:31,187 --> 01:49:32,947
Speaker 24: as well, so it was kind of just luck of

2174
01:49:33,027 --> 01:49:34,947
Speaker 24: the draw, which way, which way the wind was going,

2175
01:49:35,027 --> 01:49:36,267
Speaker 24: and we got we got lucky.

2176
01:49:37,187 --> 01:49:39,827
Speaker 2: When you're looking for improvements in your two hundred meter time,

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01:49:40,147 --> 01:49:42,147
Speaker 2: where do you place your attention, Tommy, is it the

2178
01:49:42,227 --> 01:49:44,467
Speaker 2: start if you come around the bend, is it a

2179
01:49:44,547 --> 01:49:47,667
Speaker 2: better finish? Where do you find the incremental gains in

2180
01:49:47,947 --> 01:49:48,907
Speaker 2: a two hundred meter race?

2181
01:49:51,387 --> 01:49:51,587
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2182
01:49:51,667 --> 01:49:55,547
Speaker 24: For me, my start's been a week point for a while,

2183
01:49:55,627 --> 01:49:58,107
Speaker 24: so we've really been working on it and it's it's

2184
01:49:58,147 --> 01:50:00,387
Speaker 24: been showing through in the hundreds. I mean, I'm running

2185
01:50:00,427 --> 01:50:02,987
Speaker 24: up against town, who's who's exceptional out of the blocks,

2186
01:50:03,027 --> 01:50:05,547
Speaker 24: you know, really powerful, So that's who have been trying

2187
01:50:05,587 --> 01:50:08,947
Speaker 24: to chase down and and it's been it's been working well.

2188
01:50:08,987 --> 01:50:12,067
Speaker 24: But yeah, when we other other aspects were focusing on

2189
01:50:12,227 --> 01:50:15,907
Speaker 24: as just being active and not sort of overstriding once

2190
01:50:16,227 --> 01:50:18,547
Speaker 24: once I come off the curve into the strait. So

2191
01:50:18,627 --> 01:50:22,587
Speaker 24: I ran a race last weekend and pour it around

2192
01:50:22,627 --> 01:50:26,467
Speaker 24: twenty twenty eighty nine, But yeah, I was I was

2193
01:50:26,547 --> 01:50:28,747
Speaker 24: overstriding once I once I came into the home stre

2194
01:50:28,827 --> 01:50:30,707
Speaker 24: and that really just kind of slows you down because

2195
01:50:30,987 --> 01:50:32,747
Speaker 24: your your legs are sort of kicking out behind you

2196
01:50:32,827 --> 01:50:34,267
Speaker 24: and out in front and you're not really striking the

2197
01:50:34,307 --> 01:50:37,227
Speaker 24: ground officially. So we were just really trying to not

2198
01:50:37,387 --> 01:50:39,827
Speaker 24: really get the knees up as high, but get their

2199
01:50:39,867 --> 01:50:42,267
Speaker 24: foot down real quick and and officially so I can

2200
01:50:42,347 --> 01:50:44,427
Speaker 24: bounce back up and get to the get to the

2201
01:50:44,507 --> 01:50:47,467
Speaker 24: next step. So that's probably the main the main two areas,

2202
01:50:47,627 --> 01:50:50,227
Speaker 24: and coming off the bins a big one, so looking

2203
01:50:50,267 --> 01:50:53,707
Speaker 24: down the track and trying to get that slingshot slingshot

2204
01:50:53,707 --> 01:50:56,307
Speaker 24: effect and yeah, pick up some speed hitting into the

2205
01:50:56,427 --> 01:50:56,907
Speaker 24: home strake.

2206
01:50:57,627 --> 01:50:59,787
Speaker 2: Now, you've had a bit of a challenging time with injuries,

2207
01:51:00,467 --> 01:51:03,907
Speaker 2: including recently. I understand, did you break a bone in

2208
01:51:03,987 --> 01:51:04,907
Speaker 2: your foot recently?

2209
01:51:06,507 --> 01:51:07,347
Speaker 14: Yes, I did.

2210
01:51:07,507 --> 01:51:07,547
Speaker 23: So.

2211
01:51:07,827 --> 01:51:11,987
Speaker 24: I went to Europe last year, qualified for the World

2212
01:51:12,187 --> 01:51:17,147
Speaker 24: University Games team, and we're in real good shape leading

2213
01:51:17,187 --> 01:51:19,587
Speaker 24: into it. Had had a couple couple of months of training,

2214
01:51:20,587 --> 01:51:23,347
Speaker 24: get on, get on the plane, and then turns into

2215
01:51:23,387 --> 01:51:26,787
Speaker 24: the trip, my foot's really really bothering me, and I'm like,

2216
01:51:27,227 --> 01:51:27,947
Speaker 24: what's going on here?

2217
01:51:27,987 --> 01:51:28,707
Speaker 6: You know, there was no.

2218
01:51:28,827 --> 01:51:32,627
Speaker 24: Problems while I was training, but it ended up I

2219
01:51:32,707 --> 01:51:35,107
Speaker 24: ended up breaking, yeah, the sestimoid.

2220
01:51:34,947 --> 01:51:37,947
Speaker 6: Bone in my foot and couldn't manage.

2221
01:51:38,187 --> 01:51:41,267
Speaker 24: I mean, I managed one track session the entire month

2222
01:51:41,547 --> 01:51:45,027
Speaker 24: leading up to the World Unis and then obviously trying

2223
01:51:45,227 --> 01:51:47,987
Speaker 24: trying to hold form for that long is really difficult,

2224
01:51:48,467 --> 01:51:50,667
Speaker 24: and trying to peak as well. So I think I

2225
01:51:51,027 --> 01:51:52,907
Speaker 24: considering that I did, I did really good. I mean

2226
01:51:52,947 --> 01:51:56,307
Speaker 24: I was I think four one hundreds off the final

2227
01:51:56,387 --> 01:52:00,107
Speaker 24: spot in the in the World Unis. I mean the

2228
01:52:00,147 --> 01:52:02,707
Speaker 24: winning time was I think twenty point sixty four, which

2229
01:52:02,707 --> 01:52:04,547
Speaker 24: is something I mean I'd run twenty point seventy five

2230
01:52:05,067 --> 01:52:07,027
Speaker 24: earlier in the season when I had no problem, so

2231
01:52:07,107 --> 01:52:09,707
Speaker 24: that was kind of pretty pretty gathering for me. But

2232
01:52:09,787 --> 01:52:11,947
Speaker 24: then also it gave me confidence, you know, I can

2233
01:52:12,067 --> 01:52:13,747
Speaker 24: I can hang with these guys at the top, and

2234
01:52:13,867 --> 01:52:16,467
Speaker 24: it just sort of motivated me to get back into

2235
01:52:16,507 --> 01:52:21,147
Speaker 24: training for this next season and showed in that result that.

2236
01:52:21,187 --> 01:52:22,147
Speaker 6: Around the other day.

2237
01:52:22,587 --> 01:52:24,707
Speaker 2: Absolutely, So your tenure attention now to the Track and

2238
01:52:24,787 --> 01:52:29,347
Speaker 2: Field Nationals, presumably does this record change your your expectations

2239
01:52:29,347 --> 01:52:29,867
Speaker 2: for that event?

2240
01:52:32,427 --> 01:52:34,827
Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean, it just it makes me more excited

2241
01:52:34,907 --> 01:52:37,187
Speaker 24: because you know, we got I mean that race on

2242
01:52:37,307 --> 01:52:40,347
Speaker 24: the on the weekend, we had four guys under twenty

2243
01:52:40,387 --> 01:52:42,907
Speaker 24: one seconds. I mean, I think, aside from obviously the

2244
01:52:42,987 --> 01:52:45,707
Speaker 24: national record being the fastest time ever, like we had

2245
01:52:45,787 --> 01:52:48,747
Speaker 24: less at twenty forty nine, I think Zach Saunder's run

2246
01:52:49,667 --> 01:52:53,507
Speaker 24: twenty seventy one, Cayden Taylor, he's still nineteen. We run

2247
01:52:53,627 --> 01:52:55,347
Speaker 24: with the seniors year around like twenty eighty seven, so

2248
01:52:55,387 --> 01:52:58,387
Speaker 24: I think it's honestly probably the fastest race all round

2249
01:52:58,467 --> 01:53:01,987
Speaker 24: we've had on New Zealand soil. So it's it's really

2250
01:53:02,027 --> 01:53:05,147
Speaker 24: good to have that sort of competition. Scusy chasing me.

2251
01:53:05,227 --> 01:53:07,747
Speaker 24: I mean, Lex was coming for me off the ben there.

2252
01:53:07,827 --> 01:53:10,627
Speaker 24: So it's just having that there is really good and

2253
01:53:10,747 --> 01:53:13,627
Speaker 24: just elevates your performance. So I'm really looking forward to it.

2254
01:53:13,667 --> 01:53:15,587
Speaker 24: But the goal, as always is to win first and

2255
01:53:15,667 --> 01:53:18,907
Speaker 24: then get the results, you know, look for the results after.

2256
01:53:18,947 --> 01:53:20,427
Speaker 24: But I've already got a good one under my belt,

2257
01:53:20,507 --> 01:53:22,387
Speaker 24: so it's just kind of, yeah, just just want to win,

2258
01:53:22,507 --> 01:53:23,307
Speaker 24: get that gold medal.

2259
01:53:24,307 --> 01:53:26,747
Speaker 2: How fast you're reakon you can go over two hundred?

2260
01:53:28,787 --> 01:53:32,467
Speaker 11: Well the season or well, how are we talking at all?

2261
01:53:32,587 --> 01:53:34,907
Speaker 2: When you when we're if we're talking in thirty years

2262
01:53:34,987 --> 01:53:37,467
Speaker 2: from now, you're looking back on your career, what do

2263
01:53:37,507 --> 01:53:39,227
Speaker 2: you reckon? Your peb over two hundred could be.

2264
01:53:40,787 --> 01:53:43,987
Speaker 24: I'd really like to go on to twenty seconds, definitely,

2265
01:53:44,107 --> 01:53:46,747
Speaker 24: and maybe maybe a bit more. I think I'm I'm

2266
01:53:46,827 --> 01:53:48,787
Speaker 24: capable of it, but you know, there's a there's a

2267
01:53:48,827 --> 01:53:52,027
Speaker 24: lot of intricacies that come with doing that, but it's

2268
01:53:52,307 --> 01:53:56,107
Speaker 24: you know, you strive for perfection and you know, running

2269
01:53:56,147 --> 01:53:59,707
Speaker 24: in like places like Australia. I mean, yeah, Christier, it's

2270
01:53:59,747 --> 01:54:02,627
Speaker 24: fourteen degrees. I'm watching I'm watching the Perth Track Classic

2271
01:54:03,587 --> 01:54:05,387
Speaker 24: two weeks ago, a week ago, and then you know,

2272
01:54:05,427 --> 01:54:08,147
Speaker 24: they're getting twenty eight degrees, they're running on Mondo tracks,

2273
01:54:08,347 --> 01:54:10,667
Speaker 24: nice tailwinds, and there's a lot of guys over there.

2274
01:54:10,707 --> 01:54:12,587
Speaker 24: I mean, you got you got gout gout, you know,

2275
01:54:12,667 --> 01:54:15,987
Speaker 24: you got Aiden Murphy, Taylor lew and Chris ihus Rand

2276
01:54:16,147 --> 01:54:18,187
Speaker 24: twenty fifty. Like, there's a lot of guys there who

2277
01:54:18,267 --> 01:54:23,427
Speaker 24: are extremely fast and just going and performing in levels

2278
01:54:23,507 --> 01:54:25,427
Speaker 24: like that. That's that's the type of the type of

2279
01:54:25,467 --> 01:54:29,507
Speaker 24: situations that really raise your performance. So but yeah, I

2280
01:54:29,587 --> 01:54:31,067
Speaker 24: mean I don't want to put a lemon on myself,

2281
01:54:31,427 --> 01:54:34,107
Speaker 24: like I took a big scalp out this weekend, but

2282
01:54:34,827 --> 01:54:37,707
Speaker 24: you know, I just keep striving to be better. But yees,

2283
01:54:37,747 --> 01:54:40,827
Speaker 24: subtwenty would be it would be amazing good stuff.

2284
01:54:40,867 --> 01:54:43,347
Speaker 2: You've got a famous athletics surname. Of course. Your dad, Roger,

2285
01:54:43,747 --> 01:54:46,267
Speaker 2: an eleven time national high jump champion, went to a

2286
01:54:46,307 --> 01:54:49,027
Speaker 2: couple of Commonwealth Games. How big an influence has he

2287
01:54:49,107 --> 01:54:49,427
Speaker 2: been on you?

2288
01:54:51,147 --> 01:54:51,307
Speaker 21: Oh?

2289
01:54:51,467 --> 01:54:51,867
Speaker 6: Definitely.

2290
01:54:51,987 --> 01:54:54,467
Speaker 24: You know, I always he's always talking to me about

2291
01:54:54,507 --> 01:54:58,147
Speaker 24: all this training PBS coming coming and telling me how

2292
01:54:58,587 --> 01:55:00,347
Speaker 24: I know. I won't say how awful I am, but

2293
01:55:00,387 --> 01:55:02,307
Speaker 24: he's always telling me, you know I did this, I

2294
01:55:02,427 --> 01:55:03,787
Speaker 24: did this back in the day and I'm you know,

2295
01:55:04,307 --> 01:55:06,747
Speaker 24: being being competitive. I want to beat them, but no,

2296
01:55:06,907 --> 01:55:10,067
Speaker 24: he had a really good influence. You know, He's super supportive.

2297
01:55:10,067 --> 01:55:13,027
Speaker 24: He's always You're always come in the trainings, coming to

2298
01:55:13,307 --> 01:55:15,747
Speaker 24: basically all of my meets. So I'm really appreciative of

2299
01:55:15,907 --> 01:55:18,027
Speaker 24: everything that he's done. And you obviously I want to

2300
01:55:18,227 --> 01:55:20,227
Speaker 24: live up live up to that name, but also still

2301
01:55:20,307 --> 01:55:21,587
Speaker 24: just focus on what I'm doing myself.

2302
01:55:21,987 --> 01:55:23,747
Speaker 2: Did you ever try high jump or was it always

2303
01:55:23,747 --> 01:55:24,387
Speaker 2: sprinting for you?

2304
01:55:26,147 --> 01:55:29,707
Speaker 24: I did try some high jump from back in Auckland Champs.

2305
01:55:29,747 --> 01:55:32,267
Speaker 24: I might have been might have been ten. I think

2306
01:55:32,387 --> 01:55:35,147
Speaker 24: I think, I think I got a bronze medal, but

2307
01:55:35,547 --> 01:55:38,627
Speaker 24: I think my TB's maybe from from way back then,

2308
01:55:39,307 --> 01:55:41,907
Speaker 24: maybe about a meter a meter fifty, so I'm a

2309
01:55:41,947 --> 01:55:44,147
Speaker 24: bit off, but I mean maybe i'll maybe I'll give

2310
01:55:44,147 --> 01:55:46,267
Speaker 24: it a try one day again just to see where

2311
01:55:46,267 --> 01:55:47,027
Speaker 24: I'm well.

2312
01:55:47,027 --> 01:55:48,747
Speaker 2: I think you're ran down the right path of sprinting

2313
01:55:48,787 --> 01:55:50,387
Speaker 2: by the sounds of what made it's working out very

2314
01:55:50,427 --> 01:55:52,867
Speaker 2: well for you. Congratulations on the national record, Tommy, look

2315
01:55:52,907 --> 01:55:55,147
Speaker 2: forward to charting your progress in the in the weeks

2316
01:55:55,187 --> 01:55:56,747
Speaker 2: and months ahead. All the best for the National Track

2317
01:55:56,787 --> 01:55:58,067
Speaker 2: and Field Champs in a couple of weeks.

2318
01:55:59,147 --> 01:56:00,027
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.

2319
01:56:00,707 --> 01:56:03,347
Speaker 2: Good to Jetty you mate. Thanks indeed, Tommy Tapony, who

2320
01:56:03,427 --> 01:56:06,747
Speaker 2: ran twenty point three five seconds yesterday over Todd meet

2321
01:56:06,827 --> 01:56:10,067
Speaker 2: us a new national men's record eighteen to three. Whomen

2322
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2324
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Speaker 2: three point thirty five this afternoon. You alerded us a

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Speaker 2: little while ago, Nick to a late change in the

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01:56:52,467 --> 01:56:55,027
Speaker 2: Crusaders side and quite a quite a big one, it's

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01:56:55,067 --> 01:56:59,027
Speaker 2: at first five rivers Rayhanna scratched Taha Cameta and at

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01:56:59,107 --> 01:57:02,307
Speaker 2: ten what is this a blow? Taha Camela is a

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01:57:02,347 --> 01:57:05,147
Speaker 2: fairly decent bloke to be coming in at ten Isney.

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Speaker 12: Is no doubt about that.

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01:57:08,027 --> 01:57:10,267
Speaker 20: I think it is a blow, though, piney in the

2342
01:57:10,347 --> 01:57:12,787
Speaker 20: sense that revers Rayhanna really didn't put a foot wrong

2343
01:57:12,867 --> 01:57:15,747
Speaker 20: last year in terms of steering the Crusaders to that

2344
01:57:15,867 --> 01:57:18,747
Speaker 20: Super Rugby Silverware went on that All Blacks fifteen, so

2345
01:57:18,907 --> 01:57:23,547
Speaker 20: all the while Kimina was outsideline with a serious knee injury,

2346
01:57:23,667 --> 01:57:27,987
Speaker 20: and certainly when you think of those ACL recoveries, he

2347
01:57:28,147 --> 01:57:32,947
Speaker 20: was on the quicker side of recovering, coming back space

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01:57:32,987 --> 01:57:35,627
Speaker 20: of nine months post surgery. So I think it sounds

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01:57:35,667 --> 01:57:38,307
Speaker 20: like there is still a little bit of trepidation in

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01:57:38,427 --> 01:57:41,467
Speaker 20: terms of how they use Taha Kimena. They were quite

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01:57:41,547 --> 01:57:44,027
Speaker 20: keen to ease them back and to Super Rugby via

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01:57:44,107 --> 01:57:45,867
Speaker 20: the bench, but needs mass rivers.

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01:57:45,947 --> 01:57:48,147
Speaker 12: Rayhanna going down with what's been.

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01:57:48,107 --> 01:57:52,387
Speaker 20: Described as a adductor strain during the week and Taha

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01:57:52,507 --> 01:57:54,587
Speaker 20: Kimina will steer the ship in the ten Jersey in

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01:57:54,627 --> 01:57:59,627
Speaker 20: a potential debut for young James White, who played places

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01:57:59,707 --> 01:58:03,787
Speaker 20: NBC Rugby for Canterbury, so a couple of young pivots

2358
01:58:03,867 --> 01:58:06,907
Speaker 20: to keep eyes on this afternoon and a Sera test.

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01:58:07,187 --> 01:58:10,107
Speaker 20: As much as the Brumbies haven't had much success here

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01:58:10,227 --> 01:58:13,587
Speaker 20: historically in christ Church, certainly over the history of Super Rugby,

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01:58:13,627 --> 01:58:16,987
Speaker 20: they have set the benchmark for Australian franchises in terms

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01:58:17,027 --> 01:58:19,307
Speaker 20: of competitiveness. So it all sets up for a really

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01:58:19,547 --> 01:58:20,907
Speaker 20: interesting contest this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Indeed it does. Rob Penny hasn't made too many changes

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01:58:23,587 --> 01:58:25,347
Speaker 2: to the side that lost twenty five to twenty three

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01:58:25,387 --> 01:58:27,667
Speaker 2: to the Highlanders in round one. The one that caught

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01:58:27,707 --> 01:58:29,587
Speaker 2: the eye I think was the dropping of Leicester fe

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01:58:29,747 --> 01:58:32,267
Speaker 2: Inger and Nuku from the left wing spot down to

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01:58:32,387 --> 01:58:34,107
Speaker 2: the bench. Did this come as a surprise to you.

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01:58:35,147 --> 01:58:37,667
Speaker 20: Not based on form, No it didn't. And look you

2371
01:58:37,707 --> 01:58:40,267
Speaker 20: don't want to be too knee jerk after one performance.

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01:58:40,387 --> 01:58:43,267
Speaker 20: But Lester Fyingooku, like many of the Crusaders, just had

2373
01:58:43,307 --> 01:58:46,107
Speaker 20: a serious case of the drop sis nine days ago

2374
01:58:46,587 --> 01:58:49,267
Speaker 20: under the roof in Dunedin. And look there has been

2375
01:58:49,267 --> 01:58:51,947
Speaker 20: a lot of conversation around the use of Lester Fiingernooku.

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01:58:51,987 --> 01:58:53,067
Speaker 12: Where is his best position?

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01:58:53,347 --> 01:58:55,787
Speaker 20: In fact, I sat down and interviewed him two or

2378
01:58:55,827 --> 01:58:57,827
Speaker 20: three weeks ago, and he was very open in terms

2379
01:58:57,827 --> 01:59:00,387
Speaker 20: of his ambition to continue in the role that he

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01:59:00,907 --> 01:59:04,587
Speaker 20: had at Tulon in the top fourteen French competition, where

2381
01:59:04,587 --> 01:59:07,427
Speaker 20: he'd started in the midfield and then effectively become a

2382
01:59:07,507 --> 01:59:10,347
Speaker 20: hybrid player and play the back end of games as

2383
01:59:10,387 --> 01:59:13,947
Speaker 20: a loose forward. Now Lester Fining and Hoooku because of necessity,

2384
01:59:14,667 --> 01:59:15,107
Speaker 20: started on.

2385
01:59:15,107 --> 01:59:16,187
Speaker 12: The left wing last week.

2386
01:59:16,267 --> 01:59:19,027
Speaker 20: No Machas Springer, no Johnny McNichol through injury at this

2387
01:59:19,147 --> 01:59:21,147
Speaker 20: early parts of the season for the Crusaders, and he

2388
01:59:21,307 --> 01:59:22,907
Speaker 20: just looked a little bit lost. He looked a little

2389
01:59:22,907 --> 01:59:25,867
Speaker 20: bit confused, very poor defensive read on their first try

2390
01:59:25,987 --> 01:59:29,787
Speaker 20: for Caleb Tounguey Towel wasn't involved from a carrying just

2391
01:59:29,947 --> 01:59:33,627
Speaker 20: ball destructive perspective that we're so used to. So I

2392
01:59:33,707 --> 01:59:36,867
Speaker 20: think it's it's a message here for Lister to just

2393
01:59:36,947 --> 01:59:38,787
Speaker 20: go back to the basics. We want to use you

2394
01:59:38,907 --> 01:59:41,227
Speaker 20: primarily as a midfield. I expect at some point this

2395
01:59:41,347 --> 01:59:44,027
Speaker 20: afternoon he'll come on for Brandon in or at outside

2396
01:59:44,107 --> 01:59:46,587
Speaker 20: center and hopefully just get back to the Lester Fining

2397
01:59:46,587 --> 01:59:48,547
Speaker 20: and hook who we all know he can be and

2398
01:59:48,987 --> 01:59:50,107
Speaker 20: can be interestingly piney.

2399
01:59:50,347 --> 01:59:52,147
Speaker 12: When I went out to Crusaders training.

2400
01:59:52,227 --> 01:59:55,467
Speaker 20: On Tuesday, he was actually listed to start at center,

2401
01:59:55,547 --> 01:59:57,427
Speaker 20: so I don't know if something had happened in the

2402
01:59:57,467 --> 02:00:01,107
Speaker 20: space of that Tuesday training session into a Wednesday team

2403
02:00:01,187 --> 02:00:04,027
Speaker 20: naming where they went. You know what, you know, Brandon

2404
02:00:04,227 --> 02:00:06,227
Speaker 20: or hasn't done anything wrong and certainly a very cap

2405
02:00:06,387 --> 02:00:09,227
Speaker 20: will sense it, particularly defensively, that they've made that switch.

2406
02:00:09,307 --> 02:00:12,627
Speaker 20: So very interesting to see how Lester Finingernoku treats what

2407
02:00:12,747 --> 02:00:14,707
Speaker 20: has to be classed as a benching.

2408
02:00:15,307 --> 02:00:16,787
Speaker 2: Well, the man it was in the twenty three jumper

2409
02:00:16,867 --> 02:00:18,907
Speaker 2: last week came off the bench and provide a good impact,

2410
02:00:18,947 --> 02:00:21,347
Speaker 2: and that of course is Will Jordan. No surprise to

2411
02:00:21,387 --> 02:00:25,947
Speaker 2: see him starting at fallback this afternoon. How big an

2412
02:00:26,027 --> 02:00:29,267
Speaker 2: influence is Will Jordan on the Crusaders.

2413
02:00:29,347 --> 02:00:30,827
Speaker 12: Massive can't be understated.

2414
02:00:30,987 --> 02:00:33,067
Speaker 20: And wasn't it great to see another Jordan in a

2415
02:00:33,147 --> 02:00:35,667
Speaker 20: twenty three albeit briefly last week?

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02:00:36,187 --> 02:00:39,947
Speaker 12: But look Will Jordan and the class was evident, wasn't it.

2417
02:00:39,987 --> 02:00:41,867
Speaker 20: I think out of anyone in Super rugby in round

2418
02:00:41,907 --> 02:00:44,067
Speaker 20: one he only played about thirty five minutes, an he

2419
02:00:44,107 --> 02:00:47,267
Speaker 20: had the most running meters of any player in Super ugby.

2420
02:00:47,347 --> 02:00:49,747
Speaker 12: He just looked a class above when he did come

2421
02:00:49,827 --> 02:00:51,547
Speaker 12: off the bench, and you.

2422
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Speaker 20: Know, you speak to the Crusader's attack coach, you James Marshall's,

2423
02:00:55,107 --> 02:00:58,467
Speaker 20: your Brad Moore's and they just wax lyrically about how

2424
02:00:58,707 --> 02:01:01,107
Speaker 20: impactful Will Jordan is not only with ball in hand,

2425
02:01:01,387 --> 02:01:05,587
Speaker 20: but his game understanding is awareness, is positioning, picking his moments.

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Speaker 12: It's a huge inclusion.

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02:01:08,027 --> 02:01:10,667
Speaker 20: Shaeffe Harckey slots back in on the wing where they

2428
02:01:10,827 --> 02:01:13,547
Speaker 20: very much view his long term future on.

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Speaker 12: The right wing.

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Speaker 20: So you know, Will Jordan, funnily enough, hasn't played against

2431
02:01:17,227 --> 02:01:20,627
Speaker 20: the Brumby since twenty nineteen. I don't know why that's happened.

2432
02:01:20,627 --> 02:01:22,507
Speaker 20: I suppose Will Jordan did miss a fair chunk of

2433
02:01:22,547 --> 02:01:25,067
Speaker 20: soup breakby in twenty twenty four through injury and just

2434
02:01:25,147 --> 02:01:27,147
Speaker 20: the way the drawer has worked. But no looking forward

2435
02:01:27,147 --> 02:01:30,347
Speaker 20: to seeing him from the outset this afternoon and just

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02:01:30,467 --> 02:01:31,427
Speaker 20: on the draw to finish.

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Speaker 2: Has there been any talk about this pretty challenging start

2438
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Speaker 2: to the season for the Crusaders Highlanders last week Brumby's

2439
02:01:37,707 --> 02:01:41,147
Speaker 2: the best Australian side today, then Chiefs Blues Highlander is again.

2440
02:01:41,387 --> 02:01:43,747
Speaker 2: I compared it to the Hurricanes, who you know. I mean,

2441
02:01:43,827 --> 02:01:45,587
Speaker 2: they're my team and I'm quite happy about this, but

2442
02:01:45,627 --> 02:01:48,387
Speaker 2: they don't play another New Zealand side until round five.

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02:01:49,667 --> 02:01:53,027
Speaker 20: It's curious one, isn't it. And I know there's been, yeah,

2444
02:01:53,027 --> 02:01:55,507
Speaker 20: a bit of publicity around the scheduling. When you look

2445
02:01:55,507 --> 02:01:57,467
Speaker 20: at Maana Pacifica for example, what was it a six

2446
02:01:57,587 --> 02:02:00,587
Speaker 20: day turnaround from playing the sharing heat allal tooker to

2447
02:02:00,667 --> 02:02:03,067
Speaker 20: playing a Hurricanes team who got to put their feet

2448
02:02:03,107 --> 02:02:05,387
Speaker 20: up in round one. I think these things, you know,

2449
02:02:05,707 --> 02:02:09,627
Speaker 20: you put your requests forward from a scheduling standpoint, when

2450
02:02:09,667 --> 02:02:13,427
Speaker 20: it's all put into this computer system and then this algorithm.

2451
02:02:13,107 --> 02:02:13,907
Speaker 12: Spits it all out.

2452
02:02:13,947 --> 02:02:16,587
Speaker 20: But look, the Crusaders very much did want to play

2453
02:02:17,107 --> 02:02:20,627
Speaker 20: the bulk of their darbies in the back end of

2454
02:02:20,667 --> 02:02:23,267
Speaker 20: the year when when one New Zealand stadium at Takaha

2455
02:02:23,387 --> 02:02:23,907
Speaker 20: opens up.

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Speaker 12: So look, it's a tricky one.

2457
02:02:26,307 --> 02:02:28,387
Speaker 20: It's the way that the schedule works to being a

2458
02:02:28,427 --> 02:02:31,427
Speaker 20: New Zealand team, you do play other New Zealand teams

2459
02:02:32,027 --> 02:02:34,867
Speaker 20: for the most part twice during a season. So look

2460
02:02:34,947 --> 02:02:36,787
Speaker 20: for the Crusaders, they know what it takes to win

2461
02:02:36,827 --> 02:02:39,747
Speaker 20: a Super Rugby title and I feel like Binny a

2462
02:02:39,867 --> 02:02:43,667
Speaker 20: complaint from Crusaders Country isn't really well received from anywhere.

2463
02:02:45,227 --> 02:02:47,947
Speaker 2: I think you're probably right. Who you gotten in your

2464
02:02:47,987 --> 02:02:49,267
Speaker 2: commentary team this afternoon.

2465
02:02:49,547 --> 02:02:51,667
Speaker 20: Yeah, the A team are back, fantasty. I have John

2466
02:02:51,707 --> 02:02:55,587
Speaker 20: Haggard alongside. Very shortly Craig Curse sideline the technical expertise

2467
02:02:55,747 --> 02:02:57,947
Speaker 20: a bill to me so now very much looking forward

2468
02:02:57,947 --> 02:02:59,187
Speaker 20: to it. And just before I let you go pine it,

2469
02:02:59,347 --> 02:03:00,707
Speaker 20: I do want to acknowledge I don't know if it's

2470
02:03:00,787 --> 02:03:04,307
Speaker 20: been mentioned in your broadcast today or in the sports news,

2471
02:03:04,387 --> 02:03:06,947
Speaker 20: but it is a bit of a day here in

2472
02:03:06,987 --> 02:03:10,027
Speaker 20: christ Church fifteen years on since that devastating earthquake twenty

2473
02:03:10,067 --> 02:03:12,827
Speaker 20: second of February twenty eleven, one hundred and eighty five

2474
02:03:12,947 --> 02:03:16,627
Speaker 20: lives lost. There will be members of the first responders

2475
02:03:16,667 --> 02:03:20,707
Speaker 20: who were there, who reacted so bravely and courageously that

2476
02:03:20,867 --> 02:03:23,267
Speaker 20: day here in christ Church when the city changed forever.

2477
02:03:23,427 --> 02:03:26,107
Speaker 20: So we will observe a moment's silence pre match, and

2478
02:03:26,147 --> 02:03:28,067
Speaker 20: I just want to echo the sentiment that our thoughts

2479
02:03:28,107 --> 02:03:31,107
Speaker 20: are with all the people in Canterbury who were impacted

2480
02:03:31,187 --> 02:03:33,427
Speaker 20: by that day with us the city changed forever.

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Speaker 2: Very well, said Nick. Thanks indeed, mate, yes, very well,

2482
02:03:36,587 --> 02:03:38,907
Speaker 2: said look forward to your call this afternoon. That is

2483
02:03:38,987 --> 02:03:41,867
Speaker 2: Nick Bully our Christy. It's based rugby commentator ahead of

2484
02:03:41,907 --> 02:03:45,387
Speaker 2: the Crusaders against the Brumbies this afternoon. Just on seven

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Speaker 2: and a half to three News.

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Speaker 1: Talks HEADB analyzing the pleas and getting the insight Weekend

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Speaker 2: away from three, Tim Beverage after three o'clock. Huge thanks

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Speaker 2: to Annie McDonald for producing across the weekend. A great

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Speaker 2: tuning in. Appreciate you taking some time with us, taking

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Speaker 2: us out today. A big story, of course was the

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Speaker 2: well this weekend was the resignation of Phoenix coach Giancarlo Italiano,

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Speaker 2: who decided it was time to say goodbye. So that's

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