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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's hither

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Speaker 1: duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 2: Labor has apologized to mayors and counselors for Chris lux

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Speaker 2: and giving them a bollocking. We're going to ask Kieran McNaughty,

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Speaker 2: why did they say sorry after five tough year for

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Speaker 2: spark Net profit is down in a big way. We'll

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Speaker 2: speak to the CEO. Carmela's officially accepted the nomination. We're

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Speaker 2: going to go to Chicago and it's Shawn Johnson's last

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Speaker 2: big game tonight, so we'll have a chat to the

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Speaker 2: sports huddle about that.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy, l I.

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Speaker 2: Hate wasteful spending as much as you do, but I'm

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Speaker 2: just not getting excited about the money that's been spent

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Speaker 2: on that dance competition. I just don't think that the

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Speaker 2: comparisons between the money that was put into that and

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Speaker 2: the nonsense that counsels get up to our fair. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that is certainly what the Taxpayers Union is trying to say.

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Speaker 2: They're making the comparison. They're pretty hot under the collar

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Speaker 2: about it, and they've suggested the government can hardly tell

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Speaker 2: councils one day to rain and their spending and then

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Speaker 2: the very next day have one of their ministers, Melissa

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Speaker 2: le Go and spend seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 2: worth of taxpayer money on bringing a global dance competition

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Speaker 2: to Auckland. But it's just not the same thing by

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Speaker 2: any stretch. I mean, what the councils are doing is

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Speaker 2: that chucking money into stuff that does nothing, It returns nothing.

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Speaker 2: An expensive bike crack that no one uses, that's just

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Speaker 2: sunk money. You're not going to get money out of that.

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Speaker 2: It's just sunk money. It's just sitting there now. A

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Speaker 2: money gone. That's not going to make you any more money.

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Speaker 2: A cycle way even it's just wasted money if no

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Speaker 2: one uses it. But putting money into a dance competition

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Speaker 2: actually returns money because it brings people from around the

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Speaker 2: world to Auckland where they then spend money. So that's

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Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars spend by central government

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Speaker 2: is estimated to bring New Zealand, not counting Auckland, just

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Speaker 2: New Zealand around Auckland three million dollars. Now it's not

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Speaker 2: a lot, three million dollars, but then neither, frankly, is

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Speaker 2: seven hundred fifty on the event. Right, Just put a

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Speaker 2: little bit and you get a little bit back. And Frankly,

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Speaker 2: the Taxpayers Union knows this. They know that this is

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Speaker 2: how events work around the world. People only come here

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Speaker 2: if you pay for them. The FIFA World Cup last year,

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Speaker 2: we paid for that to come here. Barcelona paid to

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Speaker 2: take or wherever it went. In the end, the America's

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Speaker 2: Cup off us right wherever it goes, that place is

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Speaker 2: taking it because they're spending for it. You basically have

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Speaker 2: to subsidize them in order for them to come. This

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Speaker 2: is just how events work. That's why we have a

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Speaker 2: thing called a Major Events Fund. That is the fund

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Speaker 2: that Melissa ly was using. That's what it's for. Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to have a debate about whether Auckland Council

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Speaker 2: should have stumped up what it put in, because it's

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Speaker 2: only put It's putting in seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is the same amount of central government, but it's

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Speaker 2: only getting an estimated one million dollars back in return.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a little bit on the line as to

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Speaker 2: whether they're actually going to get their money back. But

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Speaker 2: the government's contribution is not throwing money away. It's an

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Speaker 2: investment and that's very different to what councils are doing.

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Speaker 1: Heller do for see Allen.

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Speaker 2: Two is the text number. We'll speak to viv Beck,

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Speaker 2: heart of the city about that. She's with us after

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Speaker 2: half past five. Now, get a load of this. For

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Speaker 2: the first time in twenty years, the number of cafes

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Speaker 2: a small drop, and what it means is we've got

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Speaker 2: now around about nine thousand cafes and restaurants. But nine

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Speaker 2: thousand cafes and restaurants is still twice as many as

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Speaker 2: we had in two thousand. That's the year two thousand.

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Speaker 2: By the way, chef and restaurateur Al Brown has with me.

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Speaker 3: Now, hey, ol, maybe we need some more events.

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Speaker 2: Do you think so? Well? Do you know what that's

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Speaker 3: The money that comes in hopefully goes into the coffers

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Speaker 2: Else well exactly now in one of the arguments about

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Speaker 2: that we just have too many. Do we have too many?

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Speaker 3: Ah, look all the people who are operating with I

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Speaker 3: of people are working from home evidently still, so if

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Speaker 3: I've always sad it's a bit of a mug's game,

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Speaker 2: Even before we had people staying home and working from

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Speaker 2: to us. The margins were really tight, right, This is

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh look, yeah, I just I really don't know

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Speaker 3: maybe people are getting to sort of understand that it's

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Speaker 3: And I think lots of people go in pretty naive understanding.

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Speaker 3: You know that everything has to be incredibly tight with

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Speaker 3: you definitely got to have all of those, but you've

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Speaker 2: Now, what do you reckon? What are you seeing in

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Speaker 3: Oh look, yeah, I no, no, I mean it's pretty

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Speaker 3: I think it's really hurt everyone, and especially the store

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Speaker 2: You know, we're the toughest you've seen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well thest question, do you reason why is this one

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, I wonder, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when people are like the people who are

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Speaker 2: the same amount because it's a treat.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think the people that it's a treat to

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Speaker 2: Well, it's good to talk to you. Made the best

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Speaker 2: of luck. You haven't got long to go before all

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Speaker 2: of this turns around and we're all spending again. That's

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Speaker 2: ol Brown Chef and restareate to By the way, do

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Speaker 2: I have an update on the oyster story? Remember the

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Speaker 2: I got an update. And have we caused trouble in

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Speaker 2: with squallions dollars of pay but you have to live here. No, no,

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Speaker 2: don't know how many reusable cups, and SOI late is

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Speaker 2: they going to have to be selling just to undo

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Speaker 2: the damage that he's doing burning up the climate like that?

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Speaker 2: But they are doing a lot of harm, don't you think.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 1: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

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Speaker 1: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one giant leaf for business.

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Speaker 1: US dogs at b Sport with tab get your bed

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Speaker 2: Heather. I had a bad experience at a restaurant a

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Speaker 2: few weeks ago, so I sent them an email. The

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Speaker 2: very high profile owner himself phoned me from his holiday

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Speaker 2: in Europe to apologize. All forgiven with that kind of response,

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Speaker 2: but just goes to show how hungry they need to

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Speaker 2: you will go back, right, And so the job is done.

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Speaker 2: And yes, you're absolutely right, they are really really having

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Speaker 2: Pine Weekend Sport hosters with me.

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Speaker 1: A Poney, Hello head Piney.

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Speaker 5: I don't know whether they'll win the game. The Bulldogs

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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get

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Speaker 2: Carmeler's officially got the job as the Democrats' neme and

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Speaker 8: In the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: It's coming up twenty six pass four. Listen what we're

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Speaker 2: the oysters. So it was the oysters that made my

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Speaker 2: How do you get neurovirus from oysters? You get it

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, hither duper c Allen

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 11: Did you put your money did? It's fun, but there's

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Speaker 2: It'd be drive so as I said. Karmala Harris has

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Speaker 12: Donald Trump doesn't know you at all.

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Speaker 2: You think he understands that when your car breaks down

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Speaker 2: you can't get to work. No, his first word was

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Speaker 13: This simple, fair minded, reasonable request to have a Palestinian

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Speaker 2: And finally, do not panic. But you would if you

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Speaker 2: There is no deeper message there.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 2: The Germans wouldn't do that to us, would they, Laura, No,

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Speaker 2: Germans wouldn't do Laura as German, Germans wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 2: She assures us it's absolutely fine and completely trust them.

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Speaker 14: the meat and potatoes of the speech, which was to

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Speaker 14: draw a very stark contrast between herself and the relatability

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Speaker 14: that Gretchen Whitmer was talking about there and Donald Trump,

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Speaker 14: who she absolutely portrayed as someone who is poised, if

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Speaker 14: he wins reelection and the second term in the White

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Speaker 14: House if he wins the election, campaign is poised to

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Speaker 14: ride roughshod over all of America's democratic checks and balances

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Speaker 14: implement this project twenty twenty five that, of course, Trump

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Speaker 14: says he's had nothing to do with, even though there's

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Speaker 14: copious amounts of evidence to suggest that people close to

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Speaker 14: him have been involved in writing it, and absolutely rolled

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Speaker 14: back the checks and balances that lie at the heart

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Speaker 14: of American democracy. But by contrast with some of the

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Speaker 14: other soaring rhetoric that we heard during the week, Barack Obama,

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Speaker 14: Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, even her own running mates Tim

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Speaker 14: Walls twenty four hours ago, there's no doubt that this

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Speaker 14: was a slightly less rousing speech than perhaps some Kamala

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Speaker 14: Harris supporters would have wanted to hear.

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Speaker 2: The thing is Simon. Thus far, the momentum around who

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Speaker 2: seems to have been created by people around her, right,

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Speaker 2: and it's the Oprah's and the Obamas, and the Bidens

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Speaker 2: and the Pelosi's all sort of reflecting their glory onto her.

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Speaker 2: Yet she it's quite notable that she hasn't done any

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Speaker 2: interviews yet. So is it possible that actually she is

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Speaker 2: the weak link?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think that there's a big question, right what

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Speaker 14: happens next? I mean, let's give them their evening here.

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Speaker 14: They're still picking up the balloons in the arena, you know,

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Speaker 14: the consetti is still being vacuumed done, and Kamala Harris

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Speaker 14: is actually still addressing groups of supporters on the fringes

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Speaker 14: of the convention here in Chicago. But the real question is,

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Speaker 14: first of all, how much of a bounce in the

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Speaker 14: polls does she get out of this convention, Does she

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Speaker 14: get the three to five percent improvement in the polls

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Speaker 14: that Democrats would consider a considerable victory, And how do

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Speaker 14: she perform out in the country, because now the blitz

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Speaker 14: begins fewer than seventy five days until election day. Every

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Speaker 14: single one of them, Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls need to

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Speaker 14: be focused on those all important battleground states that will

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Speaker 14: decide the outcome of this election, and we're going to

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Speaker 14: find out whether her relatability passes the test. I mean,

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Speaker 14: there were very few specifics in this speech about what

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Speaker 14: she actually plans to do. She says she's going to

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Speaker 14: create an opportunity economy, She's going to build an economy

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Speaker 14: for the middle class. Very little taught, by the way

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Speaker 14: about working class. Lots of talk about the middle class.

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Speaker 14: But when she gets on the campaign trail and when

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Speaker 14: she sits down with television interviewers, so at some point

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Speaker 14: she's going to have to do how relatable does she

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Speaker 14: prove to be and how fleet of foot is she

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Speaker 14: going to be when dealing with Americans, you know, at

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Speaker 14: that kind of retail level of politicking, and that's an unknown.

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Speaker 14: They've done themselves a huge favor this week as a party,

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Speaker 14: there's no question about that they will secure some kind

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Speaker 14: of a bounce in the polls. But how do you

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Speaker 14: maintain and even extend it? That's the next.

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Speaker 2: Act, That's exactly right, Yeah, that should be their concern. Hey,

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Speaker 2: what happened to Beyonce and Tita?

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Speaker 14: I have absolutely no idea, and it is quite bizarre, actually,

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Speaker 14: I mean, I think the Taylor Swift thing was never

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Speaker 14: going to happen, But there were credible reports that beyoncey

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Speaker 14: was not only coming to Chicago, but in fact, some

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Speaker 14: reporters were told was in the building. And there were

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Speaker 14: tantalizing moments during the day when as they were doing

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Speaker 14: all of the sound checks ahead of tonight, you know,

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Speaker 14: there were singers on stage practicing Beyonce numbers. There was

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Speaker 14: a group of drummers that some Beyonce fans said maybe

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Speaker 14: part of her act that you know, she has this

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Speaker 14: drum line that she's performed with before. And given the

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Speaker 14: ubiquitous nature of the reporting about all of this, it

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Speaker 14: is curious that the convention managers did not just simply

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Speaker 14: damp it down. I mean, By contrast, there was one

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Speaker 14: rumor that George W. Bush might be the mystery guest

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Speaker 14: and was going to walk on the stage and endorse

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris. And immediately the people at the George W.

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Speaker 14: Bush Foundation down in Texas said that is absolutely flatly false.

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Speaker 14: It's not true. So there are questions tonight about why

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Speaker 14: the Democrats allowed this rumor about Beyonce to hang out

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Speaker 14: there in the wind. They could have shut it down

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Speaker 14: earlier in the day and said we don't need Beyonce.

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris is a big enough star. There are some

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Speaker 14: suggesting tonight that maybe this was all a ruse to

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Speaker 14: drive viewership to the television sets all over the country

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Speaker 14: in a bid to get people that might otherwise not

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Speaker 14: have tuned in for Kamala Harris's speech to watch it.

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Speaker 14: But how machiavellian would that be.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. Simon, thank you very much. I've always

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Speaker 2: enjoyed your work. Appreciated the Simon marks Us correspondent here

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Speaker 2: the Carmela's speech was not boring, you typify the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand media. Well, I don't know. Listen, We'll listen to

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Speaker 2: some Carmela's speech. In about half an hour time, half

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Speaker 2: an hour's time, and then compare that, for example, to

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Speaker 2: Michelle Obama's yesterday, and I think it's pretty flat by contrast.

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Speaker 2: Janick Sinner, we're going to talk about that with the

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Speaker 2: sport Huddle. Sport Hudle is going to be with us

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Speaker 2: about twenty away from six. I've had some I've had

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Speaker 2: some opinion served to me that I was far too

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Speaker 2: eager to come to his defense and be like, obviously

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Speaker 2: he should be allowed that stupid just the Massu's had

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Speaker 2: it on their hands, right, And that may have been

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Speaker 2: naive of me. So we'll discuss it with the sports

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Speaker 2: huddle shortly. Well, when I say shortly, I meant in

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Speaker 2: an hour's time, Barry Soaper is shortly quarter.

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Speaker 1: Two Politics with centrics credit check your customers and get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 2: Barry Soper, Senior political Correspondence with US. Now, Hey Barry,

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Speaker 2: good afternoon. He Harry. We're having a debate about where

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Speaker 2: the Carmala's speech was boring.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, by comparison to the lead up, I

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Speaker 9: guess you'd say, you know, it was a downbeat. But

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Speaker 9: like your correspondent said, and I totally agree with him

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Speaker 9: that she wasn't playing to the audience, basically preaching to

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Speaker 9: the converted in the Democrats auditorium. She was playing to

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Speaker 9: the wider public because they would have tuned in to

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Speaker 9: see what sort of person that is standing for the

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Speaker 9: United States presidency. The warm up was fascinating Mark Kelly.

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Speaker 9: He was an American politician retired astronaut. Kelly said the

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Speaker 9: alternative to Kamala Harris would be embarrassing for the United States.

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Speaker 5: The world laughs at Trump literally, but folks, it is

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Speaker 5: not funny.

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Speaker 15: When he was president.

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Speaker 9: That meant the world was laughing at us, and that

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Speaker 9: was one view. And then Adam Daniel Kinsinger, now you'll

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Speaker 9: be aware of him. He was a Republican representative, and

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Speaker 9: of course he's changed color.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: Kinzing has said the Republican Party has been hijacked and

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Speaker 9: certainly isn't the party that he once represented.

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Speaker 16: The Republican Party is no longer conservative. It has switched

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Speaker 16: its allegiance from the principles that gave it purpose to

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Speaker 16: a man whose only purpose is himself.

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Speaker 9: And then it was Kamala's turn. She again zeroed in

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Speaker 9: on the Democrats public enemy number one.

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Speaker 15: He would use the immense powers of the presidency, not

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Speaker 15: to improve your life, not to strengthen our national security,

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Speaker 15: but to serve the only client he has ever had himself.

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Speaker 9: So that was a common theme at the Democrats convention,

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Speaker 9: not surprisingly, but you know, she had to present help

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Speaker 9: and explain I think to the public who she was,

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Speaker 9: where she came from, Indian mother, Jamaican father. I think

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Speaker 9: she did quite well on that score.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can see, yeah, I can see how that

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Speaker 2: does make it a little bit more boring if you're

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Speaker 2: not trying to hype up the crowd, but you're actually

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Speaker 2: trying to speak to the nation. Listen, who's calling David

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Speaker 2: Seymore an idiot?

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Speaker 9: Oh well, you'd have to question who is the idiot,

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Speaker 9: And it's took Orangi Morgan, who of course was a

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Speaker 9: former television journo. He said, the Treaty Principal's Bill, he

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Speaker 9: came out today and said that it's being promoted by

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Speaker 9: a political idiot who's trying to modernize a document that

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Speaker 9: will make the eighteen forties signing a nullity, he said,

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Speaker 9: if the bill did go past its first reading, and

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Speaker 9: you remember he sounded off at the King's coronation birthday

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Speaker 9: the other day. Morgan says the resulting protest action would

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Speaker 9: be at a level never seen in the history of

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Speaker 9: this country before. It sounds a bit like Donald Trump,

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Speaker 9: but you know he speaks on behalf of the king,

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Speaker 9: which I find quite incredible. And of course he's the

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Speaker 9: chairperson of the Waikato Tanui Ewi and they now have

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Speaker 9: about two point four billion dollars worth of asset, so

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Speaker 9: a lot of power behind those words.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the Taxpayers Union having a

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Speaker 2: crack at the government for putting that money into the dancecalls?

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Speaker 9: Well, look, I think they totally miscalled it that. I

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Speaker 9: think Luxon did exactly the right thing, accusing the councils,

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Speaker 9: even though they hated it, of spending a lot of

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Speaker 9: ratepayers money on things that shouldn't they shouldn't spend it on.

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Speaker 9: And I see Hipkins apologize on to the councils today.

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Speaker 9: But the ratepayers came out with and I think that

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Speaker 9: the Taxpayers Union came out with the top five paid

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Speaker 9: chief executives around councils around the country today, the top

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Speaker 9: has paid six hundred and forty eight thousand, much more

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Speaker 9: than what the Prime Minister is and you know, even

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Speaker 9: the lowest paid is not on a bad salary. He's

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Speaker 9: the guy that runs the Chattamarlands Council. How much do

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Speaker 9: you know what he's paid? Two hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 9: dollars a year?

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Speaker 2: Do you know the.

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Speaker 9: Population many, seven hundred and seventy people.

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Speaker 2: How much he's doing again to twenty.

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Speaker 9: It's about three hundred dollars ahead.

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Speaker 2: Divided by how many people seven.

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Speaker 9: Hundred hundred, about three hundred bucks one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and fifteen bucks. Yeah, it was three hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifteen bucks every single week if you paid, because it's annually,

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Speaker 2: that's an annual salary. I mean, that's that's a lot

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Speaker 2: of money, isn't it.

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Speaker 9: So money to be running in and you know you

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Speaker 9: look around the country and the money is big for

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Speaker 9: the councils. That's what they taxpayers union should be concentrating on,

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Speaker 9: not events that can benefit the economy, as the dance

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Speaker 9: competition will do.

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Speaker 2: Barry, thank you very much, really appreciate it very so.

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Speaker 2: Per senior political correspondent. Will be back to wrap the

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Speaker 2: political week that was at about quarter past six, seven away

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Speaker 2: from five.

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Speaker 1: Digging into the issues that affect you. The Mic Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Is it a razor led thing. I'm the head coach.

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Speaker 17: Therefore I get what I want and if you can't

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Speaker 17: fit him with that, you must go.

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Speaker 1: Is that how it worked generally?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'd be loveing to be a part of that.

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Speaker 17: I can't see how you can say he will be

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Speaker 17: in a seat. But the decision will be made in

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Speaker 17: December of the September of the decision hasn't been back anyway.

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Speaker 17: The good news is William gets to back Monday from

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Speaker 17: six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Rain drove

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Speaker 17: of the last news talk ZB Hey.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a decision here from the Court of Appeal

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Speaker 2: which is ruled about a class action involving two big banks.

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Speaker 2: This is A and Z and ASB. And basically what

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Speaker 2: they're saying is that there are potentially one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: customers of A and Z and ASB who are going

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Speaker 2: to be part of the class action unless they say

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Speaker 2: they don't want to be part of the class action.

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Speaker 2: So you're automatically in if you have been affected by

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Speaker 2: a failure. I think to refund interest and fees to tens,

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Speaker 2: tens and tens and tens of thousands of customers, we're

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Speaker 2: going to get the legal take on it ten past five,

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Speaker 2: because this is shaping up to potentially be one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest class actions in the country. We'll get all

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Speaker 2: the details very shortly for you. Were also gonna have

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Speaker 2: a chat to Kieran MacNulty, the Labor Party's local government spokesperson,

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Speaker 2: about why they're siding with councils against rape payers. That's nuts,

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Speaker 2: isn't it anyway? So here's more details on what's been

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Speaker 2: going on with Leon MacDonald and why he left the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks media are reporting that it's understirred that Leon

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Speaker 2: MacDonald felt scapegoated when fingers were pointed internally, and it

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Speaker 2: seems that it's got to do with the loss against

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Speaker 2: the Argies and when fingers when they lost against the Argies,

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Speaker 2: and people saying he felt that he was being blamed

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Speaker 2: for it. Now that pressure apparently already existed, but it

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Speaker 2: was made worse by the pressure of having lost to

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Speaker 2: the Argies. Leon was apparently also much more of a

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Speaker 2: Joe Schmidt guy than a Scott Robertson guy. Now that's

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Speaker 2: a surprise to me because I thought that the pair

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Speaker 2: of Razor and Leon went way back and were already

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Speaker 2: moving against Fozzy ages ago. But apparently it's understood that

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Speaker 2: Joe Schmidt was thinking about making a run at the

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Speaker 2: All Blacks job last year, and instead of Leon McDonald

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Speaker 2: pushing Raizer, he was actually pushing Joe Schmidt to go

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Speaker 2: and go for a run. So his preference would have

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Speaker 2: been to work for Joe Schmitt, but he ended up

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Speaker 2: working for raizor Robinson, and apparently that's why things fell apart.

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Speaker 2: That's one side of the story that's certainly been told

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Speaker 2: to the media. We're gonna have a chat to the

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Speaker 2: sports huddle about that though, with us twenty away from

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Speaker 2: six right now, it's coming at five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 1: get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Heather due to Celan Drive with One New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 1: get connected and news talk as they'd be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Labor leader Chris Hipkins has apologized to mayors and

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Speaker 2: counselors for the way that the Prime Minister Chris Luxon

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Speaker 2: told them off this week when he told them to

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Speaker 2: reign in their spending.

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Speaker 18: It's all very well to describe a community swimming pool

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Speaker 18: as a nice to have if you have a pool

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Speaker 18: in your own backyard. Most New Zealanders are not that privileged.

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Speaker 2: Labour's local government spokesperson care and Macanulty's with me. Now, Hey, Karen,

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Speaker 2: how I'm very well, thank you. Why are you guys

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Speaker 2: choosing to side to the councils over rate payers?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's a fair question. I think it's

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Speaker 6: a case of the rating system is unsustainable. It's not

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Speaker 6: such a purpose. The government had a chance to fix

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Speaker 6: it and they didn't and the result is unsustainable rape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but why are you apologizing for a message that

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of rate players rapays would have been.

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Speaker 6: Imploreding I'm saying that we're on the side of councils,

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Speaker 6: we want to fix the rating system, we want to

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Speaker 6: work with them. That would have been an appropriate message,

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Speaker 6: making it harder for councils and impossible other than just

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Speaker 6: raising rates and then turning around and blaming councils. That's

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Speaker 6: where in apology it should it come from.

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Speaker 7: Chris Lucky.

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Speaker 2: But Karen, are you saying you don't think that councils

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Speaker 2: are doing anything wrong here with their spending.

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Speaker 6: I've sat with counsels, I've met with them, all around

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Speaker 6: the country. I've seen the anks that they have had

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Speaker 6: to go through in their long term planning and the

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Speaker 6: effort that they've made to try and limit rates increases.

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Speaker 6: The fact of the matter is the rating system stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm agreeing with you on that. I'm not disagreeing

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Speaker 2: with you on that. But ratepayers up and down this

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Speaker 2: country are looking at the crap that they're spending money

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Speaker 2: on and we are very cross with them. And we

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Speaker 2: think a lot of us will think that what Chris

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Speaker 2: Luxon said was bang on, So why are you apologizing

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Speaker 2: for it?

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Speaker 6: What Chris Luckson is doing is shifting the blame and

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Speaker 6: responsibility from government onto councils, knowing that in two to

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Speaker 6: three years time, rates is going to be the biggest

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Speaker 6: issue facing that Karon.

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Speaker 2: It's not the government who's building living gardens on the

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Speaker 2: roof of the bus stop or spending eighty four thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars on a bike rack on Oriental Parade. That's the council.

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Speaker 2: They deserve the blame.

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Speaker 6: I can sit here all afternoon and you could list

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Speaker 6: out all the examples that you think is lacil spending

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Speaker 6: and we could agree on what that is. And yet

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Speaker 6: it won't make a dent in the fundamental issue facing councils.

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Speaker 6: This is the problem, is that the examples that the

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Speaker 6: National Party are giving and you're giving in others isn't

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Speaker 6: actually touching the surface when you've got over eighty percent

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Speaker 6: of the expenditure on roads and pipes and they still

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Speaker 6: can't afford to do it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you in read, but is it not

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Speaker 2: fair for him to say, if you want more money

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Speaker 2: to deal with this stuff, you have to prove that

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Speaker 2: you can spend it wisely, which is what he said.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with that?

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Speaker 6: That is not what he said. That is what they

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Speaker 6: subsequently said when they realized they missed the mark, and

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Speaker 6: they actually offended people who have been working incredibly hard

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Speaker 6: to try and deliver for their communities. But the system's

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Speaker 6: broken and I've got no choice. If the government actually

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Speaker 6: followed the recommendations of the Future for Local Government Review

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Speaker 6: and gave counsels other options, then they might have a point,

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Speaker 6: But they dismissed it, called at work nonsense and the

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Speaker 6: only option that councils have is rapes. Now. I live

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Speaker 6: in a region where there are three councils and there

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Speaker 6: are two towns where they cannot build any more houses

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Speaker 6: because the wastewater system is that capacity, and the council

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Speaker 6: has had to put up rates twenty percent in the

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Speaker 6: last two years. They still don't have the money to

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Speaker 6: do that. The system is stuffed.

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Speaker 2: Karen, You and I are not going to disagree about

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Speaker 2: the fact that the rating base is not sufficient, and

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Speaker 2: I mean even coalition partners in this government want to

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Speaker 2: give them more money in GST. But from a political

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Speaker 2: point of view, are you guys making a smart call

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Speaker 2: to be backing the councils and the mayors instead of

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Speaker 2: backing the rate pays who are frustrated here.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're mutually exclusive. I think backing the

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Speaker 6: councils is back in the rate payers because if we

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Speaker 6: don't back the councils and change the system, it's rate

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Speaker 6: payers that suffer. And that's our point. This government had

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Speaker 6: a chance to do that and they dismissed it, and

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Speaker 6: then they turned around and blamed the councils. We say that,

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Speaker 6: we say that that is patronizing and wrong, when actually

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Speaker 6: it's the government that sets the system that the council's

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Speaker 6: work in, and they are the ones that missed that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, Karen. Thanks, thanks for your time. Mate.

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Speaker 2: There's Karen mcinnaughty, Labour's local government spokesperson.

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Speaker 1: Ever Dup c Ellen.

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Speaker 2: Now, am Z and ASB may have the refund interest

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Speaker 2: to more than one hundred thousand customers with home loans.

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Speaker 2: This is a Court of Appeal decision today that customers

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Speaker 2: are automatically included in a class action lawsuit rather than

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Speaker 2: it being opt in. They have to opt out to

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Speaker 2: get out of it now. For Kunk Cannon is a

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Speaker 2: class action lawyer at kun Cannon Partners and with us

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Speaker 2: right now, for Neula, Hello, Hi here the how are

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Speaker 2: you very well? Thank you? You actually know what the

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Speaker 2: banks have done wrong here?

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Speaker 19: Yes, they have failed to comply with your disclosure obligations

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Speaker 19: under the Triple CFA, the Credit Contracts and Consumer Finance Act.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and what does that mean for my wallet?

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Speaker 19: Well, what it means is that when you're making decisions

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Speaker 19: about your finances, you don't have all of the information,

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Speaker 19: So you don't know exactly what your bank is charging you,

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Speaker 19: when and why.

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Speaker 2: And so if you went into the home loan deal

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Speaker 2: without knowing the full information, they've got to give you

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Speaker 2: money back.

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Speaker 19: Do they Well, that's one of the issues here. There

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Speaker 19: is on what basis do banks and other lending institutions

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Speaker 19: when they breach the Triple CFA, on what basis do

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Speaker 19: they have to compensate consumers? And this claim alleges that

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Speaker 19: what they have to do is give you back all

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Speaker 19: seas and interest for the whole period that they're in default.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, how much might that be?

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Speaker 19: Well, I understand it's in the hundreds of millions. I'm

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Speaker 19: not involved in the case directly, but the allegation is

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Speaker 19: that there are hundreds of millions of dollars at stake

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Speaker 19: are in this camp per customer.

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Speaker 2: This could be tens of thousands of dollars, right, that's right. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So if we are now all opt in, right, you

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Speaker 2: are in there regardless sorry it's opt out. You're in

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Speaker 2: regardless of whether you know about it or not. Do

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Speaker 2: this Pentea potentially make it one of the biggest class

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Speaker 2: actions in the country.

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Speaker 9: No.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, absolutely. It's a hugely significant decision from the Court

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Speaker 19: of Appeal and a really important decision in terms of

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Speaker 19: moving the dial for access to justice because we know

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Speaker 19: in the Court of Appeal was really clear that making

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Speaker 19: things difficult for consumers. Frustrates access to justice by putting

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Speaker 19: unnecessary hurdles in front of people who, as the banks

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Speaker 19: have admitted from the fact that they've breached, you know,

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Speaker 19: have entitlements here. So it's a really important procedural decision.

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Speaker 19: Maybe only the lawyers will get excited about it, but

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Speaker 19: it's really important that customers will be able to participate

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Speaker 19: in this claim without the procedural hurdles of having to

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Speaker 19: join and opt in proceeding.

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Speaker 2: How do you know if you're an ASB customer or

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Speaker 2: A and Z customer, whether you whether you're do some dollars, So.

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Speaker 19: There are a time periods that apply. You need to

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Speaker 19: have been a mortgage customer. There's I think, look, it's

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Speaker 19: not my case, Heather, but there isn't a website where

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Speaker 19: people can go and find information about the case and

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Speaker 19: get more information about what their rights might be. The

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Speaker 19: thing important point is they don't have to do anything

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Speaker 19: at this point. Heither that the case will continue and

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Speaker 19: there will be decisions made and judgments will will proceed

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Speaker 19: without having to people to take active steps at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff. Hey, I really appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 2: for Yula Kuncannon who's a class action lawyer. So these

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Speaker 2: are the periods. If you're an ASB Bank customer with

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Speaker 2: a home loan between the sixth of June twenty fifteen

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Speaker 2: and the eighteenth of June twenty nineteen, you could be impacted.

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Speaker 2: And an am Z customer between the sixth of June

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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen and the twenty eighth of May twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: you may be impacted as well. It's quarter two, Heather

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Speaker 2: dupl quarter past. It's Friday, Hever duper cy len Ry again,

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Speaker 2: Lord Hey. Further to what I was telling you about

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Speaker 2: Leon McDonald rather being a Joe Schmidt man and not

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Speaker 2: a raisor man, there is a hope in Australia that

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Speaker 2: he pops up in Australia working for Joe Schmidt at

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Speaker 2: the Wallabies. That's what they want and also not only

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Speaker 2: do they want it, but there is a vacancy. Joe

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Speaker 2: Schmidt does not have a specialist backs coach on his staff.

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Speaker 2: He runs the attack himself. What is Leon McDonald an

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Speaker 2: attack coach? I think he's orchestrated the whole thing to

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Speaker 2: be able to go and work for his bestie Joe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the story we're going to tell ourselves anyway,

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Speaker 2: we'll get we'll talk to the sports tuddle, they'll tell

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Speaker 2: me if my conspiracy works or not caught a past. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the labor had six years to fix the rating system

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Speaker 2: if they really wanted to. It's absolutely unbelievable. But they

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Speaker 2: were busy. They were very very very very busy with

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Speaker 2: the Maori Awards. Because remember that's what Nanaia was doing.

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Speaker 2: Nanaia had that review, that review that Kieran was talking about,

867
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Speaker 2: the local Government Future of Local Government Review. Nanaia had

868
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 2: that gotten on a desk. She could have done all

869
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 2: the stuff, but she was busy with the Maori Awards.

870
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Speaker 2: So got themselves to blame. Dunham now complaining about it,

871
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Speaker 2: and I'm not feeling any love for this position that

872
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: they're taken, by the way. Nineteen past five now today

873
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: was the big old one. At the Democratic National Convention

874
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: in Chicago. There were heaps of those rumors you heard

875
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 2: before that Beyonce was gonna play, but she did not

876
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: make an appearance. This is what we got on stead.

877
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 2: I don't hate pink, I'm never unhappy about a bit

878
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: of pink, but pink is not a Beyonce do you

879
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: know what I mean? But anyway, she performed the song

880
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: what about Us? She had a daughter, Willow. There not

881
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: really a shock to see Pink stumping for the blue team,

882
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 2: because she did once try to get to number and

883
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: what actually did get to number eleven on the New

884
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: Zealand chart with a song about what a bad job

885
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 2: President George W. Bush was doing. The headliner today was,

886
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: of course, Vice President Krmala Harris. Now before we got

887
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: to her, her family was there and her young grand

888
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: nieces got a speaking slot. Hello everybody, my name's Amara,

889
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: and my name is Alila, her little sister.

890
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 8: And what are you here to.

891
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 18: Do to teach you how to see her auntie's name?

892
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: Okay, to be fair, it's a struggle. Even Trumpy struggles

893
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: with that. And the crowd was happy to play along.

894
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Speaker 2: Everybody on the everybody over.

895
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 10: Here say Carla, everybody over here sailor.

896
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Speaker 18: Together.

897
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 2: The mood got brought down a little bit because they

898
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: had a number of friends and relatives of people who

899
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: died from gun violence invited to speak on stage, including

900
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Speaker 2: one of the Sandy Hook Elementary teachers.

901
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 15: Twenty beautiful first grade children, and six of my beautiful

902
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 15: colleagues were killed.

903
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 8: They should still be here.

904
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Speaker 2: And then we finally got to the woman of the moment.

905
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Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

906
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 8: thank you, thank you, thank you.

907
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: And she talked a lot about her upbringing.

908
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 12: In her parents they instilled in us the values they

909
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 12: personified community, faith, and the importance of treating others as

910
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 12: you would want to be treated.

911
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 2: And she talked about her career as a prosecutor.

912
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Speaker 8: And every day.

913
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 15: In the courtroom, I stood proudly before I judge and

914
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 15: I said five words, Kamala Harris for the people.

915
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: And then she said the magic Woods.

916
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 20: I accept your nomination to be probably in the United

917
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 20: States of America. Our nation, with this election, has a precious,

918
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 20: fleeting opportunity to move past the bitterness, cynicism, and divisive

919
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 20: battles of the past, a chance.

920
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 15: To chart a new way forward.

921
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: And that was the DNC it ended with. Her speech

922
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: would have been better if it had ended with a

923
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: little bit of beyond say, am I right?

924
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: Okay? The duplicy Ellen cutting through the noise to get

925
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: the facts. It's heather due to see Alan drive with

926
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Speaker 1: one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news talk as

927
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: they'd be.

928
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, the pink is better than Beyonce all day long. Ian,

929
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: I feel like the charts would disagree with you, but

930
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Speaker 2: you know what, each to their own. I mean, frankly,

931
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Speaker 2: I would probably say Kenny Rodgers is better than Beyonce

932
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: all day long, but probably also not many people would

933
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Speaker 2: agree with me. Right now, twenty five past five. Now, listen,

934
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Speaker 2: this was always bound to happen. I mean, this will

935
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Speaker 2: be no surprise to you. There are now calls on

936
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Speaker 2: the government to save those mills in the rue A

937
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Speaker 2: pair Who so they don't close with a loss of

938
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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty jobs. The calls are coming from

939
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Speaker 2: with the local mayor and also the local EWI. Now,

940
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: obviously the government can't be doing that. If what we're

941
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Speaker 2: talking about is giving money to the Malaysian owners of

942
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Speaker 2: the pulp and timber mills or giving them some sort

943
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Speaker 2: of sweetheart electricity deal to be able to stay open,

944
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Speaker 2: we can't be doing that. I get why people want

945
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Speaker 2: to do it, and I have a lot of sympathy,

946
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Speaker 2: especially for a region like ru A pair Who, because

947
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 2: the ru A peir Who's been through a lot. I mean,

948
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Speaker 2: I had the skifields closed, the chateau is still closed,

949
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Speaker 2: and now it's got to deal with this as well.

950
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Speaker 2: In two hundred and thirty jobs, quite a lot in

951
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: a small place. Any region would find that hard, but

952
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: especially to a pair who because there really isn't a

953
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: lot else going on there, so this is going to

954
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: be tough for them. But the government just can't bail

955
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: out privately owned businesses to save jobs because if it

956
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: starts doing that, where does it end. If the government

957
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 2: bails out Windstone, does it also bail out og Does

958
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: it also save their mills because they are also being

959
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: hit by these high power prices at the moment? Does

960
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: it bail out the horticulturalists who are struggling to pay

961
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: the high gas bills to heat their greenhouses? Does it

962
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: bail out the entire manufacturing sector who are struggling with

963
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: electricity prices? How does it decide who to bail out?

964
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: Is it just the ones who saying they're about to

965
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: close down? In which case, won't everyone just say they're

966
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: about to close down so they can get some government assistance?

967
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: And how do we know that the power prices are

968
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: actually the only issue at Windstone? Because if it was

969
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: just the power prices, then wouldn't Windstone just shutter the

970
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: place like they have at the moment until the power

971
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Speaker 2: prices normalize, and I don't know, let's say spring all

972
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: summer and then just get going again. Because if the

973
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: power price this is are low in summer, why don't

974
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: they want to operate then they'll be profitable. Why don't

975
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: they just reopen? How long do you subsidize them for?

976
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: By the way, do you subsidize them for just this winter?

977
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Or do you subsidize them for next winter which is

978
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: going to be tough and the winter thereafter and the

979
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: winter thereafter? And what if this is the new normal?

980
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: You just keep going? And who pays? Is it the taxpayer?

981
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: Who pays? We're asking the taxpayer to help a wealthy

982
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: Malaysian based family keep making tidy profits. I think you

983
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: know the answer to this. We can't do it, as

984
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: tough as it might be.

985
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen Oh.

986
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 2: Dear Kieran. Yeah, Well, if Kieran needs to do some

987
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: focus grouping or some I don't know a little bit

988
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: of polling to find out whether the Labour Party is

989
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: on the right side of this, I can help him

990
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: out with it. Here. The who's been in government for

991
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: six of the last seven years. Labor, why didn't Kieren

992
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: and his mates fix the rate system? Then? Heither you

993
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: missed a question for Kieran Why did his government not

994
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: do something when they are in power? Here the How

995
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: did you ignore the fact that he actually was empower

996
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: and did nothing? It's a very good question, thank you.

997
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: Completely out of touch on council spin here the Labor

998
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: have got this working, but I suppose they're just supporting

999
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 2: councils which are generally dominated by the left. Bang on, oh, Kenny,

1000
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: how good when.

1001
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Hard questions, strong opinion every duper See Ellen drive with

1002
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: one New Zealand let's get connected and news talk as.

1003
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 10: It'd been spark.

1004
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: Not a great day of the sparks, but of a

1005
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 2: tough day. Actually, they had the net profit comeback. I

1006
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: think it was something like seventy two percent on last year.

1007
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: But I think it looks I mean it's not great, obviously,

1008
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: but it looks worse than it actually is because last

1009
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 2: year was boosted by all of those sal tower sales.

1010
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: You might remember going to speak to the CEO. Jolly

1011
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 2: Hodson will be with us after six o'clock and the

1012
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: sports tuddle is standing by because tonight is Sean Johnson,

1013
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: the sexiest league player in New Zealand's last game, So

1014
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 2: all the ladies are tuning in for this one twenty

1015
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: four away from six now. The government's been criticized for

1016
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: spending seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars on a dance

1017
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: competition while having a crack of councils for their waste

1018
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: for spending. The money has come from the Major Events Fund.

1019
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: It's going to bring the World Dance Crew Championship to

1020
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: Auckland next year and the competition director, Chris Simpson is

1021
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 2: with us a.

1022
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 14: Chris, Hi, how are you?

1023
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Is this a big deal

1024
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 2: in the dance world?

1025
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 7: It sure is.

1026
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 21: It's it's essentially the inaugural World Dance Crew Championship, so

1027
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Speaker 21: it's the first time it's ever happened. There's been significant

1028
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 21: international interest. It is actually a bit like high performance sport.

1029
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 21: They're all coming over as teams, so there's all these

1030
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 21: different divisions and then the super Crew division. One crew

1031
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 21: is between fifteen and forty dancers, so they are high

1032
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 21: performance athletes and it's you know, the goohal reach of

1033
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 21: dance is significant. Hip hop sort of markets around, predicting

1034
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 21: it to get to about ten point seven billion by

1035
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 21: twenty twenty five. And yeah, I mean within New Zealand

1036
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 21: schools there's more kids involved in danced, in rugby and

1037
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Speaker 21: netball combined.

1038
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,839
Speaker 2: So are you counting all of them though, Chris? Are

1039
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 2: you counting the dud dancers or because if you counted

1040
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 2: me that would not be fair when I was at school,

1041
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: you just counting everybody who's trotting.

1042
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 21: Around to Well, look, now there's actually the dance community.

1043
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 21: There's something like six hundred and thirty thousand kiv so

1044
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 21: dancing regularly. Now, whether that's people going to the nightclub

1045
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 21: every weekend, I'm not sure we've got to get those numbers.

1046
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 21: But as far as the whole hip hop dance movement,

1047
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 21: that's one of the fastest growing industries at the moment

1048
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 21: in the world.

1049
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 2: So who do we expect is going to come to this?

1050
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously the dance crews themselves are going to

1051
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: be reasonably sized. And then you know, I'm going to

1052
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: go watch this because I want to see what's up.

1053
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: But is it actually going to draw an audience from

1054
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: overseas who want to watch this?

1055
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1056
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 21: Look, firstly, it's a mess participation sporting event. So you know,

1057
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Speaker 21: I'm saying sport because I've been involved in running maki

1058
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 21: events as well in the sports world. So there's going

1059
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 21: to be so the open super cruise and the use

1060
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 21: the cruise. Some of these crews, like the Royal Family

1061
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 21: who will be performing, have performed in front of potentially

1062
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Speaker 21: like the Royal Families worked on sort of ten billion

1063
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 21: views across working for American Idol and Grammys and MTV,

1064
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 21: and some of these crews have significant followings, particularly at

1065
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 21: that supercrew level. But then there's other divisions if you like,

1066
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Speaker 21: which is junior divisions and youth divisions and adult divisions

1067
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 21: that come in smaller teams. So there's yeah, so I

1068
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Speaker 21: guess the prediction is that there's going to be ten

1069
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 21: two thousand international visitors coming and they and the event

1070
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Speaker 21: runs over a week. It'll be it runs from you know,

1071
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 21: the thirteenth to the nineteenth of April. And of course

1072
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Speaker 21: they're not going to just come from the Northern Hemisphere

1073
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Speaker 21: and just leave now dull stay. They'll probably you know,

1074
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Speaker 21: and we notice that even another event, so I know,

1075
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 21: you know, some of the World Masters, I think people

1076
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 21: actually on average date eight days after the participated. So

1077
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 21: when you're looking at that kind of unbecoming and the

1078
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 21: length of time they'll be in New Zealand and an

1079
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 21: Auckland competing. But are they going to travel the highly likely.

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Speaker 21: There's quite a lot of the sort of age divisions.

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Speaker 21: So when you've got youth and junior, the highly likely

1082
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,919
Speaker 21: a lot of mums and dads will be coming with them.

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00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 21: And then you know there's a sort of the feemily

1084
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 21: and friends a bit like a you know, I know

1085
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 21: that you know, looking at the Rainbow game sort of

1086
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 21: bed at the moment where you've got always you've got

1087
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 21: groups of people that will come with them, and like,

1088
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 21: you know, the sort of social media reach when you

1089
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 21: start looking at even what the you know, obviously Periscobal

1090
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 21: achieves the Royal family and how many dance clips on

1091
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 21: you know and social media and YouTube, it is quite

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00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 21: significant and that's quite global.

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Speaker 2: Is Regung going to be there?

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Speaker 21: Well, please don't ask.

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00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: Me Isgung going to You will not believe the number

1096
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: of texts listen to this here that is Reagan going

1097
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: to be there? From Steve Hither, I heard a rumor

1098
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: that Raygun is performing in the at the event as

1099
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: a special guest from Raymond. It just goes on, Oh.

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00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 21: Look, well that's not who knows, Maybe we'll get over

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00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 21: some investor either.

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00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: It's only money well spins of raygun and raise a headline.

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00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 21: Yeah yeah, I'm not sure the jury's out on that one.

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00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: Listen, Chris, I feel like we've just given you an

1105
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: idea and you just got to run with it.

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00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 6: You think so?

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 21: You think I should make her an investor or something?

1108
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: Why not?

1109
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 21: Again? Like the comparisons, are these crews train you know,

1110
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 21: hours hours and hours each week? That absolutely even.

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00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 7: If you're not are you trying to change the subject.

1112
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 21: I am trying to change.

1113
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: Chris Now, it's good to have you on the show man.

1114
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: Thank you for explaining everything. Christensen, competition director, I mean,

1115
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: come on, you'd go, I'd go, wouldn't we? Nineteen away

1116
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: from six the.

1117
00:54:56,320 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international real unparalleled

1118
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: reach and results. It just doesn't quite.

1119
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 7: Click different aspects.

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00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: There was no intent to get to the point there

1121
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 2: we are now, but we just believe for both of us,

1122
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 2: the best thing is as for the All back group

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00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: is you make a call now.

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Speaker 18: I won't be watching it, and I think that's true

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00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 18: of a lot of people who have remained dismayed by

1126
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 18: the fact that the Cup has been taken off.

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00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 22: Sure, I'll dismiss it, you know, I just know I'll

1128
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 22: miss it. I already have the feelings of what it's

1129
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 22: going to be like coming here for one last time

1130
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Speaker 22: this weekend. So that's definitely going to be a moment

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00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 22: that as a family we're going to cherish.

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Speaker 2: On the sports title with us. This evening, we've got

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00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: Matt Brown, Oceania Football Confederation media manager and Paul Allison

1134
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: News Talk ZB Rugby commentator.

1135
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 4: Lad's hello, Hi here, how you doing Mat?

1136
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 7: Hi? Here?

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00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 14: Hi Paul?

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 2: Now Matt, Well, actually no, Matt, You're not going to

1139
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: be You're not going to be gossip mongering like Paul

1140
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: is at the moments of Paul, I'm coming to you.

1141
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 2: What's the real story with Leon leaving the ABS?

1142
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: Then he's not going into breakdancing. Look, I don't know. Obviously,

1143
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 4: like any marriage fall out in a divorce, you're never

1144
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 4: quite sure of the full background behind it. But the

1145
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: thing that surprised me about it is the fact that

1146
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 4: these guys know each other. It's not as if they

1147
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 4: are foreign to each other. They would have done their

1148
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 4: homework in advance about what they're wanting to do, from

1149
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 4: strategy around tactics, getting on the same page. But obviously

1150
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 4: coached together back in two seventeen. They've played together a long,

1151
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 4: long time ago, for a million games for the Crusaders

1152
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 4: and for the All Blacks. I just don't know what

1153
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 4: really has gone on. Obviously it has to be a

1154
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 4: personality and a disagreement to a significant degree. And the

1155
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 4: fact that they've done it now I think is good

1156
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 4: and they can move on from it. But what the

1157
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: real reason is and the full details, I think we'll

1158
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: live in mystery for quite some time.

1159
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe so, Matt, I didn't realize that he was

1160
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: actually this is Leon was actually a Joe schmidt Man

1161
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 2: more than a Raisin man, did you.

1162
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 7: Well, yes, in a sense they've wrecked it the Blues

1163
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 7: and they had a pretty good chemistry together in the past.

1164
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 7: So look, it would have surprised me if he pops up.

1165
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 7: There's a vacant position I understand in the Australian coaching

1166
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 7: so this would not surprise me as a backs coach,

1167
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 7: as a as an attack coach working with the Wallabies,

1168
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 7: but look, it really is an unsavory note for the

1169
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 7: All Blacks. I mean, just before they head across what

1170
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 7: will be the toughest tests of the year against a

1171
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 7: very much informed World champions Spring Block, for this they happened. Now, yes,

1172
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 7: I agree with Paul, it's a good thing that's been

1173
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 7: out and dragged on. But how on earth did this

1174
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 7: happened in the first place, in the sense that how

1175
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 7: were these two peered together? Because clearly, as Razor said,

1176
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 7: you know, our philost coaching philosophies are different, and that's

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Speaker 7: a major that's a major red eye for me in

1178
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 7: terms of question is raised right from the start. But

1179
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 7: they sort of think, oh, well, well, well we're different,

1180
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 7: but we'll give it a crack. And that's what it

1181
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 7: comes to, crowfair is and it you know, it's not

1182
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 7: a good look for your bicks.

1183
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see. And the thing about it that Paul

1184
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 2: that surprises me is that Razes seemed to have actually

1185
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: sought Leon out and made like he got him to

1186
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Speaker 2: join him in order to go up against Fozzy.

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Speaker 4: Didn't he Yeah, that's exactly right. He picks his team

1188
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: around him and he's got a big team as well,

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Speaker 4: with the two Jasons Holland and Ryan and now Tarmany

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Speaker 4: Allison and David Hall, David Hill and Corey Flynn and

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Speaker 4: Scott Hansen. I had an all back great contact me

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Speaker 4: last week and he said to me, what are the

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00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: All Blacks trying to do? Because it almost looks like

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00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: this was before the test against Argentina that they won

1195
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: an Eden Park. But he said to me, it almost

1196
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: looks like they're getting too many voices in their ears

1197
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 4: and not sure which one to listen to. And I

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00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 4: just wonder sometimes when you've got so many coaches, you've

1199
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Speaker 4: almost got one for every two players that are on

1200
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 4: the field, whether or not there's some confusion. But I

1201
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 4: think this is more than just a gain strategy and

1202
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 4: an alignment. I think it might go back to tactics selection.

1203
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 4: But to me, it sounds like there's a falling out

1204
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 4: on personalities.

1205
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yeah, I think you bang on there now,

1206
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: Matt Shawan Johnson, so Piney and I decided earlier in

1207
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: the program we actually feel sad that this is the

1208
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: way that Shawn Johnson's career has ended. Last year he

1209
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: missed out on the Dalm and then this just pipped

1210
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: at the and then this year they play stink.

1211
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 7: When do you decide to go I mean, do you

1212
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 7: go on a highlight last year? Because one thing I

1213
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 7: think about Johnson, you know, he is one of the

1214
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 7: great Warriors, without a doubt. He's one of those players

1215
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 7: that when he gets the ball on attack anywhere around

1216
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 7: that twenty, you just wonder what he's going to do.

1217
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: You know, you think that the guy can produce magic

1218
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 7: because he's done it time and time again. Yep, He's

1219
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 7: made mistakes, he said, injury issues, made your injury issues

1220
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 7: that had blighted his career to some extent. But when

1221
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 7: he's on, he is one of the best in the business,

1222
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 7: and so he's been. He's up there. Not for me,

1223
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 7: Stacy James is number one, but he's coming in. He's

1224
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 7: in the top three or four Warriors of all time,

1225
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 7: so great way. Let's say he goes out with a

1226
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 7: win tonight. I'm sad that they're not going to make

1227
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 7: the playoffs, Paul.

1228
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Did he maybe play one season too long?

1229
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 4: Oh at thirty three years of age.

1230
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 14: Possibly not.

1231
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: Because the Warriors were on a high last year, everyone

1232
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 4: had huge expectations of how they're going to perform this year,

1233
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 4: and they've really let us all down and themselves to

1234
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 4: some degree in the sense. So it's fizzled at the

1235
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: back end of the season when it promised so much.

1236
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 7: He's been around for a long time.

1237
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 4: He's still a good player, and he is one of

1238
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 4: the best ever. I mean, if you had to pick

1239
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: your best ever Warriors team, both him and you'd find

1240
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 4: a place to both him and Stacy Jones and Roger

1241
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 4: TII Varsashek and Simon Mannering. That's where he's and he's

1242
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 4: in that top four or five of the best ever

1243
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 4: that we're seen in a Warrior's jersey. He's scored more

1244
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 4: points for them, He's got more points for the Kiwis.

1245
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 4: You know, he's got someone that's just got incredible speed

1246
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 4: and playmaking abilities and can do things that other people can.

1247
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 4: He's one of the most talented. So I think we're

1248
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 4: seeing in a generation. Of course, he won that Golden Boot,

1249
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: which is the best player in the world, back in

1250
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 4: two fourteen, So has.

1251
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 7: He gone a year too long?

1252
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: Maybe, But at some stage you just got to keep

1253
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: on going when you're on high, and that's what the

1254
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 4: Warriors were last year.

1255
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a break come back with you guys

1256
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 2: in just a tech. It's coming up thirteen too.

1257
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty

1258
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1259
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Speaker 2: Back of the sports Tittle, Matt Brown and Paul Allison. Matt,

1260
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: do you reckon that Jarnick Sinner should have been let off?

1261
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

1262
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 7: My gosh, are such a complex, complex one. But no,

1263
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 7: I don't. Actually, I don't think he should have been

1264
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 7: let off. I look, I've always been there to believe,

1265
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 7: and the rules are pretty clear. You fail at test,

1266
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 7: you are essentially responsible, no matter whether the substance, whatever

1267
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 7: it is in this case is spray is administered by

1268
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 7: some but you're responsible for putting into your body as

1269
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 7: as a pro athlete, and there have been a lot

1270
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 7: of athletes who have had to serve suspensions because of

1271
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 7: that fact. Now, in this case, he appealed, He was

1272
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 7: provisionally suspended, he appealed immediately and was effectively allowed to

1273
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 7: continue playing while the case was heard all behind closed doors. No,

1274
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 7: no one knew this into the last few days. For me. Yeah,

1275
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 7: there's a two there's a two year suspension, and I

1276
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: think you know, if he wasn't will number one. If

1277
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 7: you was world number two hundred and fifty in the world,

1278
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 7: you'd probably be suspended by now. Unfortunate for sure. Accidental perhaps,

1279
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 7: but ultimately it's his word, and I actually don't have

1280
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 7: the sympathy that that some might do.

1281
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: In the case Paul, The question is was it accidental

1282
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: or did he just leave it? Because this is the thing, right,

1283
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: did he just leave it long enough so that whatever

1284
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 2: was picked up was just tiny by that stage?

1285
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think would have been tiny for that stage.

1286
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 4: The testing would have been done and they would have

1287
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 4: had the results at the time back in April, back

1288
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 4: in the end of March when this was done. They're

1289
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 4: saying it's less than one billionth of a gram and

1290
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 4: that it had no physiological impact benefit to him. It's

1291
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 4: a it's a substance similar to testosterone, a muscle building substance. Look,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I see that Nick Curios has kicked

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Speaker 4: off as well about this, but I think it might

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Speaker 4: be because he's jealous that Ennixon is going out with

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Speaker 4: an ext girlfriend. But look, I really I don't know this.

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Speaker 4: This is still under appeal potentially. I mean, this has

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Speaker 4: been approved by the Tennis Integrity agency, but a decision

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Speaker 4: could be appealed by WADA or the Italian any drug

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Speaker 4: doping agency, so that might be more still to be

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Speaker 4: played out with this. I mean, he missed the Olympics,

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Speaker 4: said that he has run down because it was a

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Speaker 4: stress and all the all the issues that he had

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Speaker 4: to go through navigating this particular issue. I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I don't know enough about drugs to be

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Speaker 4: able to come in on it, to be honest, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a tricky one. Would all be sort

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Speaker 2: of taking a punt out, it wouldn't we Hey, Matt, Okay,

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Speaker 2: is this the year that we fall out of love

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Speaker 2: with the America's Cup or is this just normal? We

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Speaker 2: don't get involved in this stage and we're there for

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Speaker 2: the main event. What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Well, someone who worked on the last America's Cups, as

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Speaker 7: they'd be Heather, and was right into it. And it

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Speaker 7: was here in Auckland there was so much five even

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Speaker 7: though it was in the middle of COVID. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 7: I think I might have been listening to your show,

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Speaker 7: even to Mike when I realized that, oh god, it

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Speaker 7: starts tonight kind of thing, Like a lot of people

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Speaker 7: just were not even aware that it was to come

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Speaker 7: around so quick because it is in Barcelona. So yes,

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Speaker 7: the interest in it will be there for the big

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Speaker 7: races without it there didn't I didn't stay and watched

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Speaker 7: last night, but I know when when the when it

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Speaker 7: comes to the actual America's Cup itself, I'll be setting

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Speaker 7: my alarm and watching it through the night. There's a

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Speaker 7: fascination with the Cup, I think no matter where it's held.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, the interest, I don't think the interest would

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Speaker 7: be anywhere near like it would be for New Zealanders

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Speaker 7: as if we were defending it.

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Speaker 2: Here on Pa'll give me a quick take. What do

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Speaker 2: you reckon?

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Speaker 4: The time zone is going to have a major impact.

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Speaker 4: It's midnight till three o'clock in the morning. Kiwi fans

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Speaker 4: love watching it during the hours that they're normally up

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Speaker 4: and about, and I think it'll have really limited appeal

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Speaker 4: until maybe they get into the finals on the twelfth

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Speaker 4: of October onwards. But we'll wait and see. Ninety nine

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Speaker 4: million dollars they turned down from the New Zealand government

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Speaker 4: to host it here, so they've gone offshore and it

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Speaker 4: will make it difficult for the following that they would

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Speaker 4: get if it was in New Zealand, it won't be

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Speaker 4: anywhere near the same. Let's hope they do well. We'll

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Speaker 4: wait and see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey guys, thank you. Enjoy your weekend. Matt Brown,

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Speaker 2: Paul Allison, our sports huble this evening seven away on

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Speaker 2: your smart speaker.

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Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

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Speaker 1: drive home. Heather Dupless Allen drive with one New Zealand

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Speaker 1: one giant Leap for business news talk as they'd be right.

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Speaker 2: I just reminded Sparkspots is going to be with us

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Speaker 2: just after the headlines and talk us through what's going

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Speaker 2: on with the business that they're having a bit of

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Speaker 2: a tough time at the moment. Roger two I Vasishek

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Speaker 2: has just told the Salman and New Zealand officials that

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Speaker 2: he's going to switch codes and not switch codes, switch

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Speaker 2: switch nations. Do you call it switch codes switch nations.

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Speaker 2: He's going to play not for the New Zealand in

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Speaker 2: a rugby league team, he's going to play for Sarmore

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Speaker 2: and it looks like he's going to be doing it

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Speaker 2: in time the way that it's reading, possibly in time

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Speaker 2: for Sarmore to go and do the test tour. Of England,

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Speaker 2: which is in October. So that thing's happening, did you know,

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Speaker 2: I think this is I think this might freak you

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. And and the thing that's going

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Speaker 2: to freak you out about this possibly is that there's

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Speaker 2: an absolutely nothing you can do about this. Your brain

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Speaker 2: is probably made up of about half a percent of

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Speaker 2: microplastics at the moment. This has been discovered recently by

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Speaker 2: a researcher at the University of New Mexico. Now he

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Speaker 2: knew that microplastic, he's reasonably famous for this particular line

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Speaker 2: of work. He he'd already found out that microplastics are

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Speaker 2: in parts of your body, like your liver or the

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Speaker 2: placenta or testicles or whatever. He'd found quite a bit

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Speaker 2: in there. But he thought that the brain would be different,

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Speaker 2: and because it's the brain, it would be protected. But

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Speaker 2: he was wrong. And when he saw how much plastic

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Speaker 2: we have in our brain, thirty times higher than other

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Speaker 2: tissues in the body, it was the opposite of what

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Speaker 2: he was expecting, like not at all protected, in fact,

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Speaker 2: just hovering it up. He was so shocked he didn't

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Speaker 2: believe it. So he sent the brains to a colleague

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, to check. They were like, Nah, you're actually right,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of plastic in there. He reckons the

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Speaker 2: levels of plastic and brain tissue have increased by fifty

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Speaker 2: percent in the last eight years, and he actually thinks

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Speaker 2: that what's going on here is this might be the

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Speaker 2: explanation for why we're seeing increased dementia and autism and

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Speaker 2: Parkinson's and stuff like that, and obviously male fertility problems

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Speaker 2: as well. He reckons it's because the plastic we're collecting

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Speaker 2: in our bodies, and it demands urgent investigation. Now, there

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Speaker 2: is no evidence yet that ties microplastics in the body

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Speaker 2: to specific health problems, but in an Italian study earlier

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Speaker 2: this year found that half of people undergoing surgery for

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Speaker 2: clogged arteries had blood vessels that were riddled with microplastics,

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Speaker 2: and they had a far greater chance of heart attack,

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Speaker 2: stroke and death. Whereas, where's all this coming from? Your

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Speaker 2: plastic bottles, your food containers, tiny bits of tires that

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Speaker 2: get into the air and you breathe it in synthetic

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Speaker 2: fibers and clothes, blankets and carpets. Freaky a.

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Speaker 1: Keeping track of where the money is flowing. With the

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Speaker 1: business hour, with Hender due to Clan and my hr

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Speaker 1: on news talks at.

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Speaker 2: B even in coming up for the next hour, Peter

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Speaker 2: Lewis is going to talk through the EU slashing those

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Speaker 2: planned tariffs on Chinese evs. Gavin Gray is with us

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Speaker 2: out of the UK, and we will wrap the political

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Speaker 2: week that was with Barry sober as per usual, seven

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Speaker 2: past six. Now it is a tough result today for Spark.

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Speaker 2: They've reported a seventy two percent drop in full year

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Speaker 2: net profit, with revenue down fourteen percent. The big drop

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Speaker 2: comes after last year's results were boosted by the sale

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Speaker 2: of those cell towers, but the company has acknowledged it's

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Speaker 2: been a challenging year in tough economic conditions. Jolie Hodson

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Speaker 2: is Spark's chief executive. Hey, jolly, hi, am I right

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Speaker 2: in thinking this looks worse than it actually is because

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Speaker 2: year was boosted by the sales of the towers.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 24: The sale of the towers means that you have a

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Speaker 24: much higher prey. You're adjusted revenue and earnings, but really

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Speaker 24: we strip it out and look at like for like performance.

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Speaker 24: We did that in twenty three and we do that

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Speaker 24: here to look at how we've gone. But it has

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Speaker 24: been a tough year for Spark regardless. We did see

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Speaker 24: some growth and key markets like mobile, clouded data centers,

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Speaker 24: but equally we saw pressure and IT services as we

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Speaker 24: saw the impact of economic demand.

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Speaker 2: Hut, Yeah, what's going on here? Is it a cut

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Speaker 2: back in government spending or is it a cut back

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Speaker 2: in consumer spending?

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Speaker 24: So the IT services more around both public and private

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Speaker 24: sector spending, and you've obviously seen change going on in

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Speaker 24: those organizations as well, which is meant that some of

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Speaker 24: the projects and things have deferred. So's a combination that's

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Speaker 24: student economy and then some of it's due to the

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Speaker 24: timing of when these things have been happening, but nevertheless

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Speaker 24: led to lower demand.

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Speaker 2: How much of a proportion of your business the affected

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Speaker 2: business is government spending.

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Speaker 24: We've got a significant part of our our business enterprises

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Speaker 24: government spending within that because we offer ranger services right

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Speaker 24: through from mobile through to cloud DC. So we are

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Speaker 24: affected when you see changes, I guess in the market likeness.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you do, Jolie? I mean, do

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Speaker 2: you guys accept this is the new normal under a

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Speaker 2: center right government or are you expecting it to pick

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Speaker 2: up again?

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Speaker 24: Look, I think like all organizations. They're responding to changes

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Speaker 24: in the economy and what they need to do, and

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Speaker 24: I'd expect that we'd start to see potentially in the

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Speaker 24: second half of twenty five a per carp in demand

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Speaker 24: because I think the tools that help support and enable

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Speaker 24: productivity heads so technology are still going to be important

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Speaker 24: in the future.

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Speaker 23: It's more about getting through this change process.

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Speaker 2: So do you reckon we have to wait basically a

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Speaker 2: full year before we really start pumping again.

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Speaker 24: Look, I'm I'm as experienced as anyone.

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Speaker 23: I guess see what that market might be.

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Speaker 24: But I think if we think about our first six

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Speaker 24: months of our financial year, which is really to Christmas,

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Speaker 24: I think it's still going to be a pretty challenging environment.

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Speaker 24: And then after that week I hope to see a

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Speaker 24: bit of improvement then.

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Speaker 2: So you're expecting actually some improvement after New Year.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, look, that's what that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 24: I guess we started to see some most ther cuts

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Speaker 24: and I think when you start see interest rates falling

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Speaker 24: both the hands of consumers but also in terms of businesses,

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Speaker 24: it starts to make an unpackt Jolie.

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Speaker 2: It's making me feel excited. The ocr couts just as

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Speaker 2: a punter out there spending money on things like a

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Speaker 2: mortgage and whatever else. I feel like, are you, as

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Speaker 2: a business leader feeling excited about it?

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Speaker 24: Look from my perspective, I think it's important that we

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Speaker 24: start to it's important that we see investment in New

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Speaker 24: Zealand and so one of the things that we're really

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Speaker 24: trying to.

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Speaker 23: Do is make sure that we're doing that.

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Speaker 24: In data sens is another growth opportunities and I think

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Speaker 24: bet at economic environment hopefully leads to seeing more of

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Speaker 24: that investment there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, so in the meantime, are you guys going

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Speaker 2: to have to cut down on your workforce?

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Speaker 24: Part of our changes is we looked at the shifts

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Speaker 24: we've seen in particular the enterprise and government.

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Speaker 23: AI is meant that we need to work out.

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Speaker 24: What's cyclical so affected by the economy, and what actually

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Speaker 24: structure needs to change. So some of that is about

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Speaker 24: getting a more sustain and book cost base for us.

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Speaker 24: So it is making some changes which we never take

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Speaker 24: lightly for our people. It's not easy, but we need

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Speaker 24: to make sure that we can adjust to both market

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Speaker 24: demand and the things that customers are looking for.

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Speaker 2: What numbers are you thinking?

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Speaker 24: Well, we included in our results release that there's about

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Speaker 24: a fifty million reduction in labor over the next twelve months.

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Speaker 24: But some of that change has already occurred in the

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Speaker 24: year that's been and so you see the flow through

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Speaker 24: of that into twenty five and we have some changes

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Speaker 24: under at the moment.

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Speaker 2: So do you have any idea how many you still

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Speaker 2: have the cut? How many people?

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Speaker 24: Look in terms, we haven't translated that into heads. We've

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Speaker 24: had As I said, we've had some movements in twenty

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Speaker 24: four already, and there is work underway at the moment.

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01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 2: Did you see TV and Z is going into territory

1507
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 2: that you've already trod, which is the old sports rights.

1508
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 23: Yes, I think I did see something on that.

1509
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: And what did you think, Jolie, did you think, mate,

1510
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 2: don't do that?

1511
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 24: I think they're in TV and entertainment and sports part

1512
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 24: of that, and so if that works for them, that's great.

1513
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 2: Do you think it's going to work better for them

1514
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 2: than it does for you, because I mean, this is

1515
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 2: not any disrespect to the way that you guys did it,

1516
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: but they have a platform we're already using, whereas what

1517
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:12,839
Speaker 2: you required from us was to get this whole new platform.

1518
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: I mean, does that make a difference.

1519
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1520
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 24: Look, I think if you've got a customer base that's

1521
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 24: already using those platforms that are used to seeing different

1522
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 24: forms of both entertainment, and they already have sport obviously

1523
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 24: some sport today, then that's going to.

1524
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 23: Be an opportunity within it. But I don't guess they're

1525
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 23: going to need to make those commercial decisions themselves about

1526
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 23: what that looks like.

1527
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, future, Jolie listen, thank you very much, appreciate it.

1528
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: Jolie Hodson, chief executive of Spark. Oh, you're not going

1529
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: to believe some of them. Well, you are going to

1530
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: believe some of the stuff that's happening in courts at

1531
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: the moment. Courts are hilarious at the moment, aren't they

1532
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: just try anything on? Got a new one for you

1533
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: for trying to get your sentence reduced to wait till

1534
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 2: you hear this. I'm getting a lot of texts on

1535
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,880
Speaker 2: the dance competition saying things like if the event is

1536
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: so good, why can't they fund themselves? I think you

1537
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 2: must have missed what I said at the very start

1538
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: of the program, which which is we have a major

1539
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,600
Speaker 2: events fund as a country, which we use to basically

1540
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 2: buy events into the country. It's not unusual. If the

1541
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: event was so good, why doesn't it fund itself? Is

1542
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 2: not a thing right? You basically have to pay to

1543
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: get events here. We had to pay to get the

1544
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup here. Last year, the Women's World Cup.

1545
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 2: We spent fifty five million dollars getting ready for the

1546
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: FIFA World Cup. Some of that was upgrading things and

1547
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: blah blah and like border control and getting all that

1548
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 2: stuff ready, but an undisclosed amount of support went towards

1549
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: FIFA's direct event delivery costs. So we don't know how

1550
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 2: much money FIFA needed. But you know, I think you're

1551
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 2: picking up what I'm putting down here. So just is

1552
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 2: the case. You always just have to pay for events.

1553
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: It's just how much are you prepared to pay and

1554
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 2: is it going to be less? Are you paying less

1555
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 2: than what the event will bring into your country? And

1556
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: as long as that's the equation. Another problem with it

1557
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:51,799
Speaker 2: fourteen past six.

1558
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's heather due

1559
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: for Cea Ellen with the business hours thanks to my

1560
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: age the HR platform.

1561
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 2: For all right, sixteen past six, let us rap the

1562
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: political week that was Barry Sober is our senior political correspondent.

1563
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Barry.

1564
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 9: Hello again.

1565
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 2: So do you think Kamala Harris can beat Donald Trump?

1566
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 15: Oh?

1567
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 9: Well, if you went off the hype, like I said

1568
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 9: earlier of the Democratic Convention in Chicago, you were saying

1569
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 9: she would be shoein. But they all said, every speaker

1570
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 9: that spoke virtually throughout the week has said it's going

1571
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 9: to be a close run thing. And mind you, all

1572
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 9: political parties say that they're up to the election to

1573
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 9: ensure that their voters get out. Some said, as I

1574
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 9: said earlier, that Kamala Harris her address to the Democracratic

1575
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 9: Convention having won the nomination or.

1576
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 2: Was the nomination to the nomination.

1577
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 9: You know, it was a philly, not a lackluster. It

1578
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 9: was full of hype, but it wasn't quite like the

1579
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 9: other speeches. But then she was speaking to the nation.

1580
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 9: She wasn't speaking to just the delegates, and there were

1581
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 9: plenty of them at the convention. She was speaking to

1582
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 9: the nation to show what sort of a president she

1583
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 9: would make. And I'll tell you what, if I was

1584
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 9: out there voting in the United States, I would certainly

1585
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 9: be voting for Kamala Harris.

1586
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 2: Do you not like Donald Trump. Just joking, I know

1587
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 2: you don't. Hey, Barry, No, I thought you were genuinely

1588
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: surprised in the slightest we know you have weird derangements

1589
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: and drunk with him. No, but very seriously, this is

1590
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 2: the problem, is that I suspect that that speech from

1591
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: Karmala Harris is the reason why you haven't seen many

1592
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 2: speeches and interviews from Karmla Harris to this point, because

1593
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 2: actually she is a dippy downer. All the hype around her, right,

1594
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: the Tim Waltz, the Obamas, the Oprah Winfrey's, all that

1595
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: stuff that reflected glory onto her has been creating the momentum.

1596
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 2: But she's actually quite boring.

1597
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 9: No, No, I wouldn't put her in any way boring

1598
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 9: at all. I mean, she's got a fabulous back story,

1599
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 9: you know, an Indian mother, a Jamaican father, very much

1600
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 9: working class. Well, no, it's a good story when you

1601
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 9: look at the other side, it's a it's a really

1602
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 9: good story. And you know, being California's prosecutor.

1603
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is she interesting? Does she have does she

1604
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: have the X factor?

1605
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 9: I found her quite interesting, and yes, I do think

1606
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 9: she's got the X factor, something that is sadly missing

1607
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:27,839
Speaker 9: with Donald Trump.

1608
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,640
Speaker 2: Hey, really good week for this government. Nikola will Is

1609
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 2: taking a potshot at the banks that will play.

1610
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 9: Really well, and the banks have responded yep, yep.

1611
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: And then Christopher Luxen taking a crack at the councils

1612
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: and the mayor's which again again they've gone for two

1613
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 2: of the people, two of the organizations that people are

1614
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 2: feeling the most frustration with at the moment in terms

1615
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: of the bills.

1616
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 9: And particularly the councils, and they're winging and moaning after

1617
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 9: his address. I don't know what they expected. I mean,

1618
01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 9: you know what do you call them? Fantasy projects? And

1619
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 9: there was a lot of criticism, like I said earlier

1620
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 9: about this Dance World Dance Championship being held here in

1621
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 9: Auckland next year. Well, there were over I think about

1622
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 9: two thousand people going to be performing at that event.

1623
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 9: The winner takes one hundred thousand American away. It's a

1624
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 9: big event worldwide, and it will bring income into this country.

1625
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 9: So to make a comparison between that and what he

1626
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 9: said to these mayors and local government people is ridiculous.

1627
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 2: Arry the Treaty Principals bill. So you have sort of

1628
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 2: been suggesting throughout the week that David Seymour is going

1629
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: to get a win over his coalition partners because it

1630
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: will change sufficiently to actually make them potentially like it.

1631
01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 9: Oh well, you know, I believe that clause is one

1632
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 9: and three of the treaty will probably remain very much

1633
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 9: the way they are, But it's the middle clause that

1634
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 9: there will be a bit of work on and it's

1635
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 9: not going to change the world as we know it.

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01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 9: I don't think, and I think Seymour is shrewd enough

1637
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 9: to know that he's got to not only win the

1638
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 9: public over and if you look at their polling that

1639
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,680
Speaker 9: they would have, you believe they're polling sixty percent in

1640
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 9: favor of this treaty Principal's bill. He's hoping for more

1641
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 9: public support and that will embarrass the National Party and

1642
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 9: New Zealand first, although Winston I heard his argument on

1643
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 9: with You this week that he says the treaty has

1644
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 9: no principles in terms of illegally and of course he's right.

1645
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,879
Speaker 9: It's been tested through the courts and they say basically

1646
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 9: the principles are guarded a partnership. And you know, and

1647
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 9: he's fought it since two thousand and five when he

1648
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 9: introduced a private members bill. So he's a long campaigner

1649
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 9: on this one. So for him now to reverse his stance,

1650
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 9: although we've seen it in the past, but if he

1651
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 9: does reverse his stance on this one, even though he

1652
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 9: indicated he might do that this week in Parliament, you know,

1653
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 9: it would be a big back.

1654
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 2: To tell you what I'd be more surprised by with Winston,

1655
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,720
Speaker 2: that's if he actually follows through on what he said

1656
01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: he was going to do and does it. That's and

1657
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: takes the references quoting to the principles economics, taking the

1658
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,280
Speaker 2: principles out of legislation right, taking the references of the principle.

1659
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 9: That's what he tried to do back in two thousand

1660
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 9: and five.

1661
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 2: Old mate always says he's going to do stuff, have

1662
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: a referendum on the Martis seats. A Polish says, he

1663
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 2: always says he's going to do it.

1664
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 9: But he did try it. You've got it. What you've

1665
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 9: got to look at. He did introduce private.

1666
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 2: Members but Mary, don't talk about what No, No, he's

1667
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 2: in power now now do it.

1668
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 9: Well, then you've got to have the agreement. We're in

1669
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:42,479
Speaker 9: an MMP environment. You've got to have the agreement of

1670
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 9: the National Party Coalition Agreement of Act.

1671
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: It's in the coalition agreement. He just has to do it.

1672
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 9: You're still got to have agreements.

1673
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: Stop making excuses for him.

1674
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 9: It's like your I'm just saying that politics is not

1675
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 9: as simple as what at times it may seem.

1676
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 2: Very Thank you, I appreciate, appreciate you fighting your owner Berry.

1677
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: So for senior political correspondent rapping the political week, there

1678
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 2: was Hey, just quickly on what's going on with Fletcher.

1679
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 2: Commus Commission plans to sue Fletcher. Now this is about

1680
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, all the way back

1681
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 2: to the Commus Commission having a look into the construction industry.

1682
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: They found that Fletcher threw its windstone wall bodes Will boards,

1683
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: which is like your plaster board, like jym da da

1684
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: da da. They were basically using volume rebates, where if

1685
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: the retailer had heaps and heaps of volume, they'd give

1686
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 2: them a rebate on stocking it and stuff. Anyway, the

1687
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: Commas Commission is not happy about it. They alleged that

1688
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: the practice breached the Commuce Act, and they have told

1689
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 2: Fletcher they planned to sue them and Fletcher told the

1690
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 2: INSIDEX this morning and apparently it's going to happen before

1691
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: the end of October. Is keeping eye on that six twenty.

1692
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: Three, everything from SMEs to the big corporates of a

1693
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: Business Hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR, the

1694
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: HR platform for sme US talks, they'd be.

1695
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 2: Well, and we're gonna have to deal with the update

1696
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 2: in the Polkinghorn case today. I'll give it to you

1697
01:20:58,560 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: later on. I got to tell you what's going on

1698
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,759
Speaker 2: with six twenty six. And they will try absolutely anything

1699
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 2: in court. And this is the latest thing. So a

1700
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: couple of guys have appeared in the High Court in

1701
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 2: Napier for beating up another inmate while they were all

1702
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 2: in jail. They are arguing that they deserve a lighter

1703
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: sentence because beating him up was for UTU and they

1704
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 2: needed to do it to restore their mona. I mean

1705
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: I often feel like that. I often feel like, yeah,

1706
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 2: I just need to lash out for a bit of

1707
01:21:22,760 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 2: USU to make my mona go up. But anyway I

1708
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 2: don't because I don't want to get in trouble with

1709
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: the law. Obviously not something that crossed their minds, so

1710
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 2: it happened in October last year. Happened in Hawks Bay

1711
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 2: Regional Prison, and it was seven on one. It was

1712
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: seven guys punching and kicking and carrying on another guy.

1713
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: All seven were Black Power member or associates. They say

1714
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: they attacked him because he had made sexual advances on

1715
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: one of them, and it happened in a corridor. They

1716
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 2: attacked him in a corridor. One of the attackers, without warning,

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01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 2: who'd been just standing next to him, suddenly threw a

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Speaker 2: punch and then the others rushed in. They were throwing punches,

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01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: they were kicking him. They stomped his head. When he

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 2: fell to the ground. One of the guys grabbed a

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01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 2: metal broom that was nearby. They've got a metal broom

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01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 2: in jail. Feels like a bad idea. Got the metal

1723
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 2: broom hit him three times on the body and once

1724
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Speaker 2: on the head. The attack lasted two and a half minutes.

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Speaker 2: That is a long time to be getting a bash.

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01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 2: And if you think just a punch in the faces

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01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 2: over like that, right, two and a half minutes of

1728
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: these guys laying into him, all captured on the CCTV cameras.

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,599
Speaker 2: So for that reason, all but one of the seven

1730
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 2: were sentenced and given jail terms, but these two, Parker

1731
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: Babbington and Jaikan Kaiwai, got longer sentences than the others.

1732
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 2: They were sentenced to three years in jail and they've

1733
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Speaker 2: appealed that on two grounds. Firstly that they should have

1734
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 2: received shorter sentences more similar to their co offenders, but

1735
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 2: secondly that the sentence and jud failed to give them

1736
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Speaker 2: a discount for the fact that the attack had been uttu.

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Speaker 2: The lawyer Cliff Church, who actually I cannot believe says

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: this stuff with a straight face, said the beating was

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01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: carried out by seven who met seven men who felt

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01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: that for their manner to be regained and for the

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Speaker 2: manna of the victim to be regained, the issue of

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01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 2: utu and the carrying out of utu had to happen.

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Speaker 2: That's not suggesting for a minute, said Cliff, that New

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01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 2: Zealand law condons this type of action. However, the issue

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 2: of utu is something that is still being practiced in

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: the cultural way throughout Martyrdom. Well, a lot of things

1747
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 2: are practiced by a lot of cultures in mat and Ryan.

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01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: The judge, Justice Lahoud then wanted to know what sort

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 2: of discount would be appropriate. In Church said, oh how

1750
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: long is a piece of string? The judge has reserved

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 2: his decision and I cannot wait to see what this

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01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 2: judge doe like. Do you not think that this is

1753
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 2: going This is the this is the test of how

1754
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 2: much BS you're prepared to suck up. Let's see, we'll

1755
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: just go update you headline's next.

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Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR,

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Speaker 1: the HR platform for sme US Talk said be.

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Speaker 2: Remember when we were driving.

1760
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Speaker 1: Driving in your car, speed's a fast fill seriously before it's.

1761
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Speaker 2: In your grays with us out of the UK shortly. Okay,

1762
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: here's what was going on with Pokinghor. Look, look, Poking

1763
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 2: Horn had a lot of stuff on his phone. One

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand images, eight hundred and twenty six

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Speaker 2: images of adult pornography, three thousand, six hundred and eighty

1766
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 2: six of sexual nature in total. Then there were cam

1767
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: sites three five hundred and twenty five from cam sites,

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01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: that's basically where from what I understand is where you

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01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: pay largely women to then give you one on one

1770
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: attention on like a camera all of that, So, I mean,

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01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 2: this guy's got a lot going on there. But this

1772
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: is the interesting thing. He deleted phone call logs three

1773
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: days after his wife's death, so she died on April five.

1774
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 2: And then after that he deleted all the WhatsApp messages

1775
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: from before April five, all deleted, impossible to retrieve, I

1776
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 2: think where you can't get them back. Then he gave

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01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 2: his police interview, the first one on April five, the

1778
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 2: day he reported his wife dead. Then after that he

1779
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: searched Google for how to delete his iCloud storage, and

1780
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,639
Speaker 2: then the next day, April sixth, he used a search

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01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 2: engine called Duck Duck Go, which is supposed to give

1782
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 2: you complete privacy when you do a Google search, like

1783
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 2: you're doing a search, nobody should be able to see

1784
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:20,879
Speaker 2: what you've done in that search. He searched leg edema

1785
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 2: after strangulation, and an edema is the swelling due to

1786
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 2: a build up of fluid. That's out of that particular case. Today,

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Speaker 2: twenty two away from seven here the Lewis Asia Business

1788
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 2: correspondents with us Hey Evening, Peter Good Evening Heat Why

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01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,440
Speaker 2: the EU decide to slash those tariffs.

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Speaker 18: In well, it was always on the cards, I think

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01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 18: particularly for Tesla because there's sort of been hit pretty

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 18: hard by this as a US manufacturer, not a Chinese manufacturer,

1793
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 18: but as a US manufacturer with a big factory in Shanghai,

1794
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:57,439
Speaker 18: but obviously exporting cars not just domestically but all over

1795
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 18: the world. I don't think the EU wanted to particularly

1796
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,879
Speaker 18: pick a fight with Tesla, so they've lowered the tariffs

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01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 18: to nine percent. Some of the other tariffs on Chinese

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01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 18: vehicles have also been cut as well. They were as

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01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 18: high as forty five percent. And I think what the

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Speaker 18: EU was hoping was that China would see this as

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 18: a sort of olive branch and sort of dial down

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01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 18: the tensions a little bit. China hasn't seen any such

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01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 18: way at all, And what they've done now is they've

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01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:33,640
Speaker 18: now launched an investigation into EU dairy products being exported

1805
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 18: into China, which they say are a subsidized So they've

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01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 18: started their investigation there, which could go on for a

1807
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 18: year or so, and it's clearly a tip for tat

1808
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 18: retaliation for the EU ev subsidies. The problem is neither

1809
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 18: side really wants to get into a big trade war here.

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Speaker 18: They do both need each other. The EU is a

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01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 18: big market for China and in many ways is more

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01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 18: than the US. But they're sort of going down this

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01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 18: road and this path where neither side really knows how

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01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 18: to get off of it. And all that's happening is

1815
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 18: that there's more and more things being dragged into this

1816
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 18: trade wark.

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Speaker 2: I mean, from from what the EU had where that

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01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: had started to where they've now ended up as quite

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01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 2: a change, right, So do you anticipate they'll just keep

1820
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: on wretcheting it down and down and down till it's

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01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:23,599
Speaker 2: really nothing.

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Speaker 18: I think that there will if there'll be a deal done,

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01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,720
Speaker 18: whereby they'll say to the Chinese manufacturers, look, come and

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01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 18: open factories in Europe. Do what byd is doing, which

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01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 18: is opening a big plant in Hungary. Come and do

1826
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 18: things like that, and then we'll remove the tariffs and

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01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 18: it'll be seen as a sort of quid pro quo,

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01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 18: no tariffs, you open the factories here, which benefits actually

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01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 18: both sides. I mean, it helps in terms of generating

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01:27:54,560 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 18: jobs in the EU and then local economic growth, and

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01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:03,560
Speaker 18: it's a good way for them to make further in

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 18: roads into the European markets. So this would be the

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 18: obvious way in which the whole thing could be dialed

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 18: down and maybe brought to an end.

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Speaker 2: Peter, why is why why are the Chinese deliberately ramming

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01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: Philippines boats.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is over a disputed reef in the South

1838
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 18: China Sea, which is within the Philippines economic zone. But

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 18: the problem is China claims nearly most of the South

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Speaker 18: China Sea as its own territory, almost up to the

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Speaker 18: coastline of the Philippines, Malaysia, Vietnam and elsewhere, so it

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01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 18: has sovereignty. It has disagreements over sovereignty in the South

1843
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 18: China Sea with several countries. It lost a case at

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01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 18: the Court of Arbitration in the Hague a few years

1845
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,639
Speaker 18: ago which basically said China's claims over the South China

1846
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 18: Sea have no basis in law whatsoever. But China won't

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01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 18: accept that ruling. So as a result, the Philippines they

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01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 18: sort of beached a boat on this reef a few

1849
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 18: years ago in order to help them sort of claim

1850
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 18: sovereignty over it, and they send supplied chips to sort

1851
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Speaker 18: of resupply the soldiers of the stationed on its China

1852
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 18: says that we're going to supervise all of that because

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01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 18: this is our territory. And the result is that there's

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01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 18: these constant collisions between Chinese Coast Guard ships and these

1855
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 18: supplied chips from the ships from the Philippines. And the

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01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 18: issue is here, really there is a huge amount of

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01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 18: potential for this to get out of hand, for a

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01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 18: ship to be sunk, lives to be lost, and then

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01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,520
Speaker 18: this whole thing could really escalate into quite a major conflict.

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Speaker 2: How much damage did they do to the ships.

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Speaker 18: Well, they did quite a bit. Luckily no one was

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01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 18: injured or killed, but they did do quite a bit

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01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,240
Speaker 18: of damage to the ships. We've seen pictures on the

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01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 18: internet have sort of buckled whole and things. But one

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01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 18: day this could easily lead to a dis alster. I mean,

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01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 18: it's really a very dangerous game that's been played here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quite, I couldn't agree more. Hey, thank you very much, Peter,

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Speaker 2: look after yourself and we'll have a chat to you

1869
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,880
Speaker 2: again in a week's sign. That's Peter Lewis, our Asia

1870
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: business correspondent out of Hong Kong. Hey, here's an interesting

1871
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 2: idea for how you help kW We Bank to do well.

1872
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 2: Do you remember back in the old days, and by

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01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 2: the old days, I mean like the nineties and it

1874
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 2: could possibly still be happening. Do you remember back in

1875
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: the old days when you were at school, the ASB

1876
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: would come around and they'd sign you up to have

1877
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 2: your own ASB accounting. He had the little elephant thing.

1878
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: It works so well that I am still with ASB

1879
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:40,799
Speaker 2: and a loyal customer because I signed up like thirty

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01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: years ago. So Auckland University economics professor Robert McCulloch reckons

1881
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 2: we need to do the same thing with Kei Wei Bank.

1882
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 2: We need to get go and get all the year

1883
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 2: eight kids to sign up, and there's about one hundred

1884
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 2: thousand of them in year eight. We don't even have

1885
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 2: to do it. We just give a key We bank

1886
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,719
Speaker 2: permission basically to do it because they would benefit from it.

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01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,040
Speaker 2: About one hundred thousand of them in year eight. Do

1888
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: that for ten years. There you've got a million customers

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01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,840
Speaker 2: and by the time when they start working, they will

1890
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 2: start putting their money into Kiwibank. It will capitalize Kiwibank.

1891
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,679
Speaker 2: The big banks will throw a fit, he says, complaining

1892
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,560
Speaker 2: of foul play, which means you're doing something right. It

1893
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 2: will break the big bank monopoly within just a few years.

1894
01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 2: And come at almost no cost to the taxpayer. Isn't

1895
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 2: that a smart idea? Seventeen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather due

1897
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: for c Allen with the business hours thanks to my

1898
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: hr the HL platform for SME on us talks.

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Speaker 2: Edb fashion the Elephant money box correct, Thank you. Fourteen

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Speaker 2: away from seven. Gavin Gray are UK correspondents with us

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01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 2: Aykevin Hi there listen Gavin on the subject of this

1902
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 2: yacht off the coast of Sicily. Does it sound like

1903
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 2: it's Mike Lynch's daughter who's still missing.

1904
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's what we believe in eighteen year old and

1905
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 25: Hammer Lynch. She's the last body we believe to be recovered.

1906
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 25: All hopes pretty much faded now and still it is

1907
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 25: the way in which the boat has rested on the

1908
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 25: bottom some fifty sixty meters below the surface, the way

1909
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 25: in which it's toppled over, and then all the furniture

1910
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:10,360
Speaker 25: within each of the cabins that has prevented the divers

1911
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 25: managing to do this sooner. But they are, I think

1912
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 25: pretty hopeful that by the weekend they should be able

1913
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 25: to find the last one who's been missing here and

1914
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 25: then the formal identifications and announcement comes. But we do

1915
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 25: now know that the UK tech tycoon Mike Lynch has died,

1916
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 25: the fifty nine year old, and tributes really pouring into him,

1917
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 25: saying that as well as being you know, somebody who

1918
01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 25: was absolutely brilliant, a brilliant mind, he was one of

1919
01:32:36,320 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 25: the most caring people that they have ever known. A

1920
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 25: close friend and colleague Andrew Cant has said, over nearly

1921
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 25: a quarter century, I had the privilege of working besides

1922
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 25: someone unrivaled in their understanding of technology and business, and

1923
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 25: another colleague said he's an irreplaceable loss, not only to

1924
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 25: those that loved him, but also to the country because

1925
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 25: one tends to forget that actually when he was on

1926
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 25: the scene all the Internet and saw its potential and

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01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 25: not many people in the UK were, And when he

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Speaker 25: set up this company, Autonomy, it grew so quickly out

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Speaker 25: of so much good business management, yes, but so much

1930
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Speaker 25: great innovation in there as well, and its eventual sale

1931
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Speaker 25: to Hewlett Packard for roughly eighteen billion New Zealand dollars

1932
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Speaker 25: back in twenty eleven was a major landmark. Of course,

1933
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Speaker 25: sadly the whole boat trip we now learned is to

1934
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Speaker 25: celebrate the victory that Mike Clinch had in a long

1935
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Speaker 25: running court battle over that sale, as some had said

1936
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Speaker 25: it was over valued by him deliberately. He won that

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Speaker 25: court case, and that's why we believe he had taken

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Speaker 25: his lawyer and his accountant and his friends and his

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Speaker 25: daughter on this trip to celebrate it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like everything at the moment is unofficial, right, and

1941
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Speaker 2: it only becomes official once I've actually done the formal identification.

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Speaker 2: These are the Italian authorities. But how long does it take?

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Speaker 25: Yeah? Exactly? And why is it taking quite so long?

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Speaker 25: I mean, you know it's Sicily won't have a big

1945
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Speaker 25: infrastructure and scheme in place for this sort of thing,

1946
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Speaker 25: so they have been shot both as an island as

1947
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Speaker 25: it were and the people on it, but also not

1948
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Speaker 25: having the perhaps the skills that might have been more

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Speaker 25: widely available elsewhere. And of course also there's a huge

1950
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Speaker 25: investigation now, Heather, as to the boat why it sank

1951
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Speaker 25: and was in any way were there things not done

1952
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Speaker 25: on board that should have been? Were hatches shut? They

1953
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Speaker 25: knew there was a storm on the way, It had

1954
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Speaker 25: been widely forecast, and the manufacturer of the luxury yacht,

1955
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Speaker 25: saying these things are unthinkable really if you just follow

1956
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Speaker 25: the rules, saying that you know everyone on board very

1957
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Speaker 25: early that morning should have been woken up, all the

1958
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Speaker 25: doors hatches, windows shut, all the portholes and then it

1959
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Speaker 25: should have been moored facing straight on to the wind

1960
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Speaker 25: that was coming in. But of course, all too late

1961
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Speaker 25: now and an investigation underway.

1962
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Speaker 2: Have they managed to in Boomingham find any of these

1963
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Speaker 2: dogs they're looking for?

1964
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Speaker 25: No, this is really pretty scary people being worn to

1965
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Speaker 25: watch out for what a thought to be two American

1966
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Speaker 25: bulldogs type dogs. Now two have already been seized, but

1967
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Speaker 25: it's believed that they were acting as a four as

1968
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Speaker 25: a pack when they killed a thirty three year old

1969
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Speaker 25: man who was looking after his brother's dogs in Birmingham.

1970
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Speaker 25: The man was found dead in the back garden when

1971
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Speaker 25: the police arrived. They did manage to catch two, but

1972
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Speaker 25: as I said, two have gone missing, possibly a third.

1973
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Speaker 25: They've been using drones. They've been doing house to house inquiries.

1974
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Speaker 25: People have provided CCTV footage, a front door bell footage

1975
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Speaker 25: showing the dogs running past, but the questions is where

1976
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Speaker 25: are they and of course that they get hungrier. The

1977
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Speaker 25: theory is that they may well get more ambitious in

1978
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Speaker 25: their attack plans, or in their plans to at least

1979
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Speaker 25: seek food. The police are saying that they don't believe

1980
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Speaker 25: these are banned breeds, but these are big dogs, make

1981
01:36:06,560 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 25: no mistake about that. And it comes just a few

1982
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Speaker 25: days as well, Laura, after an incident where a man

1983
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Speaker 25: in Scotland was killed by an Excel bully dog, and

1984
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Speaker 25: so many in this country really requiring the government. I

1985
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Speaker 25: think to look again at the legislation and the puff

1986
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Speaker 25: rop on how these big dogs are kept.

1987
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Speaker 2: That's grimm there's I get hungrier. How scary is that?

1988
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Speaker 7: Kevin?

1989
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, really appreciate it. This Kevin Gray,

1990
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Speaker 2: our UK correspondent here the very smart idea with Kiwibank. However,

1991
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Speaker 2: they can be a little after their own customers. Where

1992
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Speaker 2: are they going to find people to sign up kids? Hither?

1993
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Speaker 2: I signed up to Kiwibank years ago on the basis

1994
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Speaker 2: that it was all key we owned, and then I

1995
01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 2: needed a personal loan five years ago and I was

1996
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 2: informed that their contract all that out to a finance

1997
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Speaker 2: company and I was subsequently subjected to high interest rates

1998
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Speaker 2: on the loan which I desperately needed and I am

1999
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Speaker 2: no longer with Kiwi Bank on principle. I quit Kiwibank too,

2000
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 2: signed up to them on the basis that because key

2001
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Speaker 2: We owned. And then remember they did that thing where

2002
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: they stopped banking. Was it they stopped banking some fossil

2003
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 2: fuel stuff like that? And I was it? What's green

2004
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Speaker 2: fairies ants?

2005
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Speaker 26: Wasn't it that some people who supplied cannabis to people

2006
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Speaker 26: who were stuff that's kind of a legal gray area.

2007
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Speaker 26: And then kee We Bank decided, no, we don't wear

2008
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Speaker 26: a part of this, and it was like nice old

2009
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Speaker 26: ladies who were just trying to help out sick people.

2010
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Speaker 2: You are our living Google, thank you for that. I

2011
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Speaker 2: don't need a I've got ants anyway. Yes, they stopped

2012
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Speaker 2: banking the green fairies and then they started going hard

2013
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Speaker 2: on the fossil field stuff. And then I was like,

2014
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Speaker 2: that's the whole West Coast of New Zealand. That's ridiculous

2015
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Speaker 2: of the South Island. I'm not going to bank it.

2016
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Speaker 2: They don't put them on principle as well. There's a

2017
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Speaker 2: lot of principle here ate away from seven, whether it's.

2018
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Speaker 1: Macro, MicroB or just plain economics. It's all on the

2019
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Speaker 1: business hour with Heather Duplicy Allen and my HR, the

2020
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Speaker 1: HR platform for SME used talksp.

2021
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Speaker 2: Russell Crowe. Before we get to Russell Crowe. I need

2022
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Speaker 2: to address this heither, why is no one talking about

2023
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 2: the fact that Mike Lynch's business partner died the weekend before,

2024
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Speaker 2: which is incredible involved in that he was also involved

2025
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Speaker 2: in the case, because that isn't a that's a conspiracy

2026
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 2: theory that requires you to do an amazing leap of logic.

2027
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Speaker 2: So obviously it's totally plausible to think that he got

2028
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Speaker 2: run down by a car by people out to get him.

2029
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Speaker 2: But how would the people who are out to get

2030
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Speaker 2: Mike Lynch conjure up a water spout? I think I

2031
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 2: think assassins are awesome, but that is pretty cool, and

2032
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Speaker 2: I don't think we can do that stuff yet. So

2033
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Speaker 2: I'm just going to just shut that one down and

2034
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Speaker 2: go probably not five away from seven now Russell Crowe.

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Speaker 2: Russell Crowe was on Joe Rogan's podcast, and if you

2036
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Speaker 2: love Russell Crowe or Joe Rogan, you're going to be

2037
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Speaker 2: the only people listening to it because it's three hours long.

2038
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Speaker 2: But maybe possibly the most interesting thing is his steak recipe.

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Speaker 27: Maybe I love cooking absolutely, And how do you prepare

2040
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Speaker 27: stake with farm steak? I use black pepper and I

2041
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Speaker 27: use Lowry's garlic salt. There's lots of garlic salts around,

2042
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Speaker 27: but that one's good.

2043
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Speaker 2: That one's good. Can you see why it takes three hours?

2044
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Speaker 2: Because that's because they're talking about steak, but they're also

2045
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Speaker 2: talking at this pace. Also, the other thing that he

2046
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Speaker 2: does is he fires lots of oil into the barbecue

2047
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Speaker 2: so that it gets a really hot flame. Also, the

2048
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Speaker 2: other thing he does is he smokes in a tiny

2049
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Speaker 2: room with Joe Rogan, who's also smoking. The pair of

2050
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Speaker 2: them just sitting there smoking Siggi's in a room that

2051
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Speaker 2: looks very very small. I mean, there's a part of

2052
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Speaker 2: me that is like, well, bake, that's unsafe, But there's

2053
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Speaker 2: also a partn yuck, And there's also a part of

2054
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Speaker 2: me that's like respect.

2055
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Speaker 26: Was it definitely just Sigi were smoking there this time?

2056
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Speaker 2: Because Elon did the Old Green Seggy.

2057
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Speaker 26: It's because I'm pretty sure his studio is in a

2058
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Speaker 26: state where it's legal to smoke at cannabis.

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Speaker 2: Retch Imagine how long that podcast would be.

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Speaker 26: So that's what I was gonna say, I haven't. I

2061
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Speaker 26: haven't watched Joe Rogan experience in years, but three hours

2062
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Speaker 26: wasn't a particularly long one. They often go up to

2063
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 26: like four or five hours. It's the Internet, so they

2064
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 26: don't have to worry about ads and stuff like we do.

2065
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,600
Speaker 26: But O three Bonnie and Clyde by jay Z and

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Speaker 26: Beyonce tonight. Yeah, real shame Beyonce didn't show up at

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Speaker 26: the d n C and maybe just you know, do

2068
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Speaker 26: something slightly more charismatic after Karmela's speech. But yeah, as

2069
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,720
Speaker 26: it turns out, TMZ were wrong on this occasion, so

2070
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Speaker 26: we'll just play some of her now instead.

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Speaker 2: Karmla didn't want to be upstaged by Beyonce, but I'm

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Speaker 2: happy to be enjoy.

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Speaker 11: See you next week.

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