WEBVTT - "Kiss The Ring" 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.720 Live from the ex Bord Bear Garden Studios. Sho're listening 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.440 to the BYC where we'll be reflecting on the surprise 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.320 standdown of Skipper Tim Salvee and the hiding and flicted 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.200 on our boys over in Sri Lankap. We try to 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.280 when we can take the positives out of any given match. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.360 Apart from Cleaver, of course, it gets the knives out 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:27.800 at the minutest show of weakness, but we are hard 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.680 pressed on this occasion to find any shining light. It 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.640 was a comprehensive defeat and even though we showed some 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:39.560 fight in the second innings that merely highlighted how poorly 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:42.519 we batted in the first. It's hard not to look 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.560 ahead with a fair amount of pessimism as we eye 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.920 the mighty Indians, where a three zip humiliation looks very 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:57.480 much on the cards. Well, fellas er Tim Salvee standing down? Yeah? 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.840 Can I read? From the New Zealand two? By all, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.640 Tim Sauvie has stepped down as Black Caps Test captain, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.600 with Tom Lathan confirmed to take up the role full time. Latham, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.080 who was captain the Test side on nine previous occasions, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:14.000 will lead a fifteen strong Test squad including Sauvi, to 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.040 India next Friday. Savvia has played one hundred and two 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.639 Tests for the black Caps, is debuting in two thousand 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.039 and eight, claiming three hundred and eighty two wickets, second 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:26.959 only to Sir Richard Hadley. It goes on to say 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:29.559 that he is captain and fallen Tests with six wins, 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:32.399 six losses to draws, which is a fairly seven split. 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.120 It's a pretty good record for a New Zealand skipper actually. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:39.080 Since taking over from Cam Williamson in December twenty twenty two, 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.640 and he said the decision to step down was made 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.280 in the best interests of the team. There are a 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:48.080 few anodyne quotes about how he can best serve the 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.600 team by concentrating on taking wickets and getting back into form. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.760 He will, and he will give Tom Tiger, Tom Latham 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:58.160 the head boy has. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.160 Absolute support, absolute. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.240 Support and backing, just as Tom did to him. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.280 Well, look, you know I made a comment on an 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.080 acc post Paul Ford. He's been an absolute stallion for 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:15.079 this New Zealand side. He's been a great player and 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.120 has quite an impressive record. And you know we pointed 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.960 out on the BYC that his last three series have 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:26.480 just been dreadful, and you know, and when you look 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.320 at lightful like I e. Henry versus salve You've got 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:34.200 to say that Henry's probably the more form player. Gives 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.400 us more options there. I mean, is this the end 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.760 for Tim Salvee or you know, he obviously wants to 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.600 carry on as a player, but is it time to move? 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:47.800 Yeah, it's an interesting one. It's a bit vague I 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.040 think as to whether he is going to continue, will 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.440 he be selected, will he be available, does he want 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.800 to play in India or does he not want to 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:02.919 be that sort of ghost haunting the team as Tom 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.960 Latham takes the reins. Important to note that the Latham 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.440 appointment is not permanent. It's only for this Indian series, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:13.120 so kind of leaves the door a jarft for some 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.320 more change down the track. Potentially. I imagine he'd be pretty 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:19.799 I mean, if I just look at statistics, and I 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:21.760 don't know if he's motivated by statistics. I think he's 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.760 genuinely motivated by wanting to help New Zealand win matches. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.840 But you know, he is three hundred and eighty two 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.160 not out on the test wicket pilot the moment, so 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.600 the lure of four hundred. The Richard Hadley number looks 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.440 four three two looks a bit far off, to be honest, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:42.520 He's got a good average in India, but yeah, will 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:44.520 he go there? Look, I don't know. I feel like 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.839 he won't go to India. Have some time and then 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.960 he'll be really keen to play that home series, but 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.400 maybe not play all those matches against England and a 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.040 bit of a farewell over sort of in December for 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:01.040 Tim South the absolute store of our game, particularly in test. 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:05.880 Cricket, Dylan, do we have that luxury with Tim to 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.040 sort of let him decide I may or may not play. 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:15.880 I mean it feels to me like it's time to 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.440 move on. Well, and that's from a fan of Tim Southey's. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:20.279 Yeah. 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.720 What I'm a little bit confused about is they're very 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:25.159 high up. In their NCCA press release, they made it 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.120 pretty clear he was going to India, right. Yes, they 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.640 would pick a fifteen man squad and it would include 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.240 Tom Southey, And I think they're pretty anxious to avoid 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.680 any perception of a palace coup in some respects like 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:44.080 we had with the Taylor McCullum situation. And then Taylor, 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.800 who I thought was maybe not the best advised back then, 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.880 didn't go to South Africa and it looked a little petulant. 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:55.320 And then we had that whole thing about reintegrating Ross 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.040 into the team and it became just a saga in itself. 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.280 I think they'd be pretty anxious to avoid any perception 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:03.239 that there's something similar going on here. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:07.520 It feels like a humble act from Southeast. Actually it 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:08.440 genuinely does to me. 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:14.640 Yes, I guess it wasn't tenuous in tenable Sorry, him 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.760 continuing as captain with the form that he had correct 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.599 because you just couldn't keep picking a bowler who at 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.160 max was taking out one wicket for innings. So I 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.000 still think there is a role for him to play, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.800 particularly in home conditions. He's super fit, Like what is 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:34.120 he thirty five, thirty six? He I think has got 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:37.440 another summer in him, home summer in him at least 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.679 is it time. That's a different issue as to his fitness, 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.240 as to whether it's actually just a time to promote 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.680 players that might be better equipped though, sure, and we 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.320 have now got a coterie of fast bowlers with Matt Henry, 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:52.799 who's not young himself. No, but it was in good form. 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:58.640 Willow Rowke's obviously a weapon. Ben Sears maybe not as 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.359 high on Ben Sears as some of the others, but 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.000 like he's definitely got something about him. And then there's 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.520 Carle Jamison come back into the next too. Well, we're 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.440 really lacking though, and we can get onto this somewhere 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:13.040 down the track, but we're really lacking a fast bowling 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.520 or a seam bowling all round her. 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.760 Yeah, and I think, you know, in terms of like 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.240 for like, I think we've all been and it's been 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.240 the situation throughout Tim Salvey's career where he's really frustrated 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.839 with the bat because there was always this feeling that 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:29.720 he had way more potential with the bat than he 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.640 was showing, and it's never quite come to fruition. I 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:35.119 think Henry offers more with a bat as well. And 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.160 I take your point Paul Ford that in many ways 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.279 it looks a humble act and it is, but also 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.159 I sort of feel like the writing was on the 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.680 wall and he had to kind of fall on his 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.160 sword anyway, despite the fact that he made that decision. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.599 Yeah, very fair, And I mean, if I guess, you know, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:57.880 you can throw a whole lot of numbers around, but 0:06:57.920 --> 0:06:59.599 if we do have a quick block, you know, he's 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.800 been un his career average five of the last seven years, 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:09.720 but in the last in twenty twenty four, you know, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.320 he's against a career average of twenty nine point nine. 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.280 He's averaged seventy three with the ball. So yeah, it's 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.320 really fallen off the cliff. And of course some of 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:22.120 those Test matches were at home where you'd think he 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:25.000 would excel. Some of those Test matches, you know, the 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.400 most recent ones obviously in Sri Lanka, where we thought 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.120 he would do well. He's got a terrific record on 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.640 the subcontinent. He's won test matches for US over there, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.800 you know, and we've talked before about his record in India. 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.880 But the other thing I was going to mention is 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.360 it did feel and maybe this is coincided with formal, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:44.640 you know, rather than being a causation, but who knows, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:48.680 It does feel like captaincy weighed heavy with him. And 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.600 you know, his bowling average blew out by about ten 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.560 runs since he took the captaincy on you know, that 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.960 might coincide with form but yeah, it didn't look like 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.600 he was having a hell of a good time out 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.200 there for a lot of his for a lot of 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:03.760 his runners. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.800 Captain certainly not the last four tests. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.920 No, Tom Latham replacement skipper are pretty standard kind of 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.960 call there. I don't have a massive issue with it. 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.640 I think he's pretty solid, kind of no nonsense, and 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:21.679 I see Dylan Cleaver wincing. But the other thing is, Dylan, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:22.840 where else do you go? 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.480 I reckon there iss options. They just didn't look at it. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.360 I think it's a really expedient choice for captaincy and 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.160 I've got a lot of time for Tom Lathan as 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:36.400 a cricketer and as a left hand opening bat. But 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.720 we've made this call that the guy who's keptaining the 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.560 team is not in the sort of form where he 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.360 can command a spot in the team by right, So 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.560 we're giving it to a guy who's scored two fifties 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:51.720 in his past eighteen test in things? 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.640 Yeah, are we point? 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.560 Are we actually addressing the issue here, which is that 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.960 it's our time if we're going to reset, let's reset. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:01.360 Yes, that's not. 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.640 This is sort of like a Bob Konis half of 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:09.840 one thing, half of the other kind of situation for me. Yeah, Look, 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:15.440 he's averaged less than thirty five and three of the 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:19.240 past four calendar years. So we're giving the captaincy from 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.360 a guy who's clearly out of form to a guy 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.360 who I would argue is not really doing much to 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.160 command a certain spot in at eleven himself. 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:32.440 It's interesting actually when you put it like that. You know, 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:37.400 in New Zealand, crickets almost pull forward force into a 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.800 corner to make some decisions here. And that's why I 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.040 bring up I brought up the Tim Salvey thing. It 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:47.760 feels like we're not quite yet committed to going okay, 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.240 we need to change our direction here, we need to 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:55.680 make some significant changes. There's almost a reluctance to make 0:09:55.760 --> 0:10:00.120 big changes. Thus you get a Tom Latham scenario. I 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:00.760 was skipper. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.160 I reckon, that's I reckon. There's something in that, Jase. 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:10.200 It doesn't feel like this is, you know, fantastic succession planning. Yes, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.120 it's succession planning in terms of who's the most obvious 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.480 person to step in given the current regime. But you know, 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.840 if you're really looking to change something up to steady 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:23.280 the ship, if you will, then yeah, I'm not sure 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.040 that this is the same decision. I'm not sure that 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.600 you'd arrive at the same decision decision. What I think though, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:30.559 is that this has come as a bit of a surprise. 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.520 I mean, we actually play a test mens in India 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:36.720 two weeks today. It seems pretty rough to pick. To 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.840 pick someone else completely out of the blue and say, right, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.880 we're going to India in two weeks, you're captain and 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.200 good luck and kind of that feels that feels pretty unfair. 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:47.960 So I think it was a pragmatic decision, a risk 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.840 averse decision to give the band to Latham for this series, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:53.840 and they do a bit more thinking and a bit 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.720 more planning and advance of perhaps the home summer and 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:57.200 beyond that. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.679 And you know, Dylan, there's been a lot of criticism 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:06.319 about the lack of boldness with the selectors Yep, Yes, 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.440 Steads and so. 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.199 Forth, and that's which I jump on board with. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:14.000 Yes, and this kind of decision, I guess Steady as 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.960 She Goes reiterates that feeling amongst people, which is they're 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.560 just not they're just trying to keep the status quo 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.560 going for as long as possible. Steady as She goes 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.840 and maybe we need something a little bit different. Now. 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.439 Yeah, we haven't addressed the most fun to been. Problem 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.480 with this team is that we've gone in the space 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.439 of a decade from being the most innovative and nimble 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:38.280 high performance program going around to being one of the 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:43.120 most predictable. Yes, and I would have gone something much bolder. 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.960 I would have maybe even looked at Darryl Mitchell. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.079 Now he's outside the box. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.839 But yeah, I don't know the internal dynamics of the team. 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:53.400 Perhaps perhaps Daryl Mitchell has an intensity to him that 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:55.440 might rub some players up the wrong way. I do 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.640 not know. That's mindless speculation. He could be the most 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.160 popular blake in the team for all I know. All 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.800 I know is that it just feels like when they 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.839 named Thomas the captain today, I just went, ah, right, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:11.240 of course, here we go again. Yeah, that might be 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.000 grotesquely unfair on Tom Latham, who might, as we're speaking now, 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:21.000 be formulating some of the most incredible, intricate, detailed, radical 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.480 plans to beat India that we've ever seen, and he 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:25.520 could be an overwhelming success. 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:26.720 I believe that. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.160 It just it just feels a little bit tired. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.080 Hopefully he's really good mates with Trent Bolt and Neil 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.079 Wagner and we can get them back and take them 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.199 over to the artist matches. That would be quite good. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.240 Yeah, it's interesting because the other thing, because the other 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:42.520 thing about this is right, Yes, you know, we could 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.920 do some crazy, wacky things, but we shouldn't forget that 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:50.040 our this is the unwinding of possibly the greatest seam 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:50.679 attach that New. 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.880 Zealand has ever seen, you know, And you know we've 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:59.719 seen what three and twenty wickets from Bolt Walk out 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.840 the door, We've seen two hundred and sixty wickets from 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.160 New Wagner and all of the slog work that he 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.880 did then and now Tim Souther you know, and you 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.640 know we shouldn't forget that as well. That's a that's 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.520 a that's just a fact that our bowling side of things, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.240 as we've been weakened, the guts has been ripped out 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:19.400 of it over the last couple of years. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.199 Well, Mitchell's an interesting one because he, of course, looking 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:25.000 back on his history, he did have issues in terms 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:29.000 of not being necessarily accepted in the dressing room back 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.320 early in his career, and that he was I don't 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.680 know what the issue was, but they found it difficult 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.920 working with him, and I think he's changed since those times. 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.040 The fundamental question for me has to be in terms 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:44.439 of the side would we rather we lose with the 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:49.040 status quo or would we rather we lose trying something different. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.160 That's a lose lose situation you've just loved. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.000 I know it's a lose lose situation. But what would 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.320 you prefer I would I would prefer us winning obviously, 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:02.600 but I would prefer. 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:05.640 In New Zealand to take a slightly more bold, emboldened 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:11.079 approach to to refitting this team. And that goes beyond 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.800 the plane eleven if you get my drift. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.560 Yes, well yeah, and that's interesting, you know which. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.080 The other thing is that two young guys that have 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.960 been given a crack, Will O'Rourke in Rich and Revendra 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.040 sensational of our two of our best in Sri Lanka. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:31.360 We'll be right back after a short break. Yes, well, 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:36.440 let's look at this Sri Lankan Test match and humiliation mate, 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:38.640 the amount of effing and jeffing going on in the 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:44.760 Hoyde Householder, I had to shut the doors. Not good. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:48.680 And you know, and we mentioned this on the previous podcast. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.360 I do believe you know things that we were notoriously 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.560 known for our fielding and things like that just some 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:02.600 really substandard play, Dylan, basic stumping catches, you know what 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:03.840 the hell? Yeah? 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:05.720 The first morning was just awful, wasn't it. 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:06.760 It was dreadful. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.640 The cat the Mitchell of her slip that he shelled 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:14.040 was so easy that there was no emotion. There was 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.480 no like will I just ran up the wicket because 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.800 it was such a standard edge. Mitchell was going to 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:20.720 pocket at Sri Lanka were going to be ten for two. 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.960 They're going to gather around, pair each other on the back. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:24.920 And it went down and no one, no one could 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.800 quite believe it. They couldn't even get angry about it 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.760 because it was just, oh, holy hell, how did that happen? Yes, 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.160 and then the stumping went in and out and once 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.920 that ball got old, they just didn't even look like 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.200 getting a wicket. It was just all fairly. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.640 Sad. Yeah, mundane tedious pulled forward. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.840 Yeah, it was a bloody tough going, no question about it. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.800 Jason wanted to acknowledge you did predict to Neil despite 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.160 your talk of optimism, you did speak about you did 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.000 predict that Schlinka would win the series two. 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:02.000 Now, I but on that, and I also had a 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:03.720 feeling that we were going to get a shallacking in 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:08.040 the second Test. And I know that's hindsight, but I thought, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.080 I don't know, we did well in that first Test, 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:11.640 but I've got a horrible feeling we're going to get 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.720 our asses handed to us. Then we batted pul forward 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.400 and what an absolute travesty. That was? What the bloody hell? 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.040 Yeah, look it was, yeah, it was. It was crazy. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:28.960 And look there were some kind of you could blame 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.840 the pitch for this and that, you know, and it 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.400 was tricky, absolutely, but there was also some sensational catching 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.640 from the shlankins in the slips, yes, and the outfield 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.400 and close. They were unbelievably good. They were magnificent and 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.640 they were the polar opposite of us. Yeah, and you 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.920 just say, yeah, some of those wickets, you know, the 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:55.960 dicey Conway catch, Phillips, Kamakazi, Mitchell outslogging, Phillips out slogging, Conway, 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.640 spooning one up, Blundle missing a reverse suite. It wasn't 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.960 all just sort of you know, the ball beating the 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.960 bat because it was ragging square. There was a bit 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:07.160 of there was a bit of madness in there as well. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.080 Can I just get off a one slight caveat to 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.400 the news owman, it was appalling eighty eight all out 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.440 when you're chasing six hundred and two for five, there's 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.240 nothing good you can say about it. But they battered 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.359 themselves into a hole and they allowed the Sri Lankan 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.199 spin twins to get into this incredible rhythm which was 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.359 in the end unshakable. But there was a reason for that, 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.359 I think. And they went into back quite late on 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.400 day two, so they just had that defensive mindset get 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:37.919 through the day, and then they came out again the 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:41.359 next morning with a night watchman who simply hasn't got 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:45.159 the skills to take the attack to Sri Lanka, so 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.280 they tried to rebuild. So they had this period on 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.760 the second evening in the third morning where they were 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.440 just batting in quicksand and that's our best player doing 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:56.320 that as well, came Williamson. Yes, So that felt like 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.320 quite a big moment in the game, was that we 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.960 just couldn't budge those spinners off their lengths and it 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.720 just meant that everyone coming afterwards had to try something 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.440 maybe a little bit beyond their skill level, and Sri 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.040 dl anchor and their tails up again. It doesn't excuse 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.320 eighty eight, which is appalling, But I think that what 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.840 that was. The one mitigating factor was the circumstance of 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.920 having that andn split by the end of day two. 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.960 Yes, do we want to read a bit of correspondence, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:31.760 he Daniel writes Fellows hard not to see the bollocking 0:18:31.800 --> 0:18:34.400 from Sri Lanka as punishment from the gods of cricket. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.680 While watching the boys capitulate wasn't quite being tied to 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.080 a rock and having your liver plucked out by an eagle. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:43.199 At times it got pretty close. Facing a must win 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:46.040 test and choosing a stick with a Choosing to stick 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.399 with the team that included elements that severely underperformed is 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:55.560 not just conservative, it's hubristic and dumb. Punishment was meted 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.000 out by the gods of cricket, and we were brought 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.240 low and reminded of our grim, mortal lot to toil 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.800 upon the green. Where the hell do we go from here? 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:10.080 Surely stared in the conservative Canterbury faction have learned their lesson? 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:14.800 Or are we doomed to repeat this cosmic mistake of 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:19.320 picking a subpar team under the guise of consistency for 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:21.880 the rest of this painful cricketing summer. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.120 I think we've got half an answer today, didn't. 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.919 We appeal to the deity there From Daniel. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.960 Hey Mike from Coroco writes under the subject line from 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:36.760 Sri Lanka with distaste, I'm writing from Tangali Beach. I 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.280 hope I said that right after scarpering the hell out 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:43.080 of Gaul once the FASCAL Second Test ended. After riding 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.399 in Sri Lanka in time for the First Test again, 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:47.879 pitched up to the Gaul cricket ground, hoping for another 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:51.000 fighting performance from the black Caps. No need to mention 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.359 how that went. My journey to the pearl of the 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:56.200 Indian notion hasn't been without its hecups. I kicked off 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.720 with a whale watching excursion off the coast of Gaul. 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.960 On the way out to see, the skipper climbed onto 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:02.919 the top deck of his boat and advised everyone to 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.240 head to the lower deck to mitigate the likelihood of 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.400 sea sickness coming from the current home of the America's Cap. 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.639 I scoffed at that suggestion and sniggered at the landlubbers 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.399 scurrying to the lower deck. Fifteen minutes later, I was 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.760 leant over the side of the boat offloading my breakfast 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:20.199 on the fishes. Unfortunately, for the other tourists below, the 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:23.320 sea breeze blew my fruit plater breakfast in their direction 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.600 and they were cascaded with a rainbow of colors. We 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:28.359 all got to see a bunch of whales. 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:28.600 Though. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.040 The upside of the second test, to bark All is 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:32.800 that it's given me a few more days to explore 0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:35.320 the Indian Ocean tear drop. Tomorrow, I'm off to a 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.800 wildlife safari in the National Park and then onto the 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:41.400 tea plantations in the whole country. I'm hoping the rest 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.679 of my trip will help remove the bitter taste of 0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:45.560 New Zealand's two test losses and put me in a 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.840 good spirits for the home tests against the Palms. Best 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.280 not to mention the upcoming India tour. Yes, I think 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:52.200 that's a very good point. 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:54.120 Which national parks are going to Dylan? 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:56.720 Did you say I think he's going to the Dawalawa 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:58.200 National Park. 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.000 Yeah, let me say that one. 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:01.520 Umm. 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:07.520 Yeah, I mean, you know, as an overall view, fellas, 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.439 I mean, after the second test, I just have you know, 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.480 we've got India coming up now, and I just don't 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:18.680 know what direction we're going to be going in because 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:22.520 and I don't know that we have many of norths. Yes, 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.400 but I don't know about you, fellas, But I can't 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.359 help but feel we're going to get our asses handed 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:31.639