1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,653 --> 00:00:18,893 Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Mattin Tyler 4 00:00:18,973 --> 00:00:22,052 Speaker 2: Full Show. Matt and Tyler Afternoon's Full Show, Pod number 5 00:00:22,453 --> 00:00:26,252 Speaker 2: eighty three, four Monday, the tenth of March twenty twenty five. 6 00:00:26,332 --> 00:00:30,893 Speaker 2: Fantastic Show would pivot pivot into some poll chat around 7 00:00:30,933 --> 00:00:34,133 Speaker 2: the new poll before soo go deep into some binge 8 00:00:34,173 --> 00:00:34,853 Speaker 2: watching chat. 9 00:00:35,053 --> 00:00:38,532 Speaker 3: Fantastic people get a bit heated. Actually, people come at 10 00:00:38,533 --> 00:00:39,452 Speaker 3: me a little bit. 11 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:42,492 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were pretty fight up, yeah, against you for 12 00:00:42,492 --> 00:00:45,293 Speaker 4: some reason. But a lot of great recommendations of shows 13 00:00:45,333 --> 00:00:47,173 Speaker 4: to binge watch all wait weekly yep. 14 00:00:47,412 --> 00:00:51,092 Speaker 3: And also like I really enjoyed looking into the lives 15 00:00:51,092 --> 00:00:57,213 Speaker 3: of people, peering into people's voyeuristically and on people's lives 16 00:00:57,213 --> 00:01:00,893 Speaker 3: on when they cut off their kids. Some amazing stories there. 17 00:01:00,973 --> 00:01:06,093 Speaker 2: So I think you're going to enjoy the show, like subscribe, 18 00:01:06,213 --> 00:01:09,652 Speaker 2: download and such and think so which we're listening, love 19 00:01:09,693 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 2: you as give my taste kiwik. 20 00:01:11,533 --> 00:01:15,012 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 21 00:01:15,253 --> 00:01:16,333 Speaker 1: everything in between. 22 00:01:16,533 --> 00:01:19,292 Speaker 5: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo. 23 00:01:19,173 --> 00:01:22,373 Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort 24 00:01:22,453 --> 00:01:23,013 Speaker 1: news talks. 25 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:23,333 Speaker 5: There'd be. 26 00:01:31,932 --> 00:01:36,133 Speaker 4: Good afternoon to you. Welcome into Monday afternoon. I hope 27 00:01:36,173 --> 00:01:38,093 Speaker 4: you had a great weekend hereck of a lot of 28 00:01:38,133 --> 00:01:40,652 Speaker 4: events happening around the country over the weekend, even here 29 00:01:40,652 --> 00:01:43,853 Speaker 4: in Auckland. Heard some great things about Chris Stapleton on 30 00:01:44,013 --> 00:01:45,533 Speaker 4: I think it was Friday Night, wasn't it. 31 00:01:45,773 --> 00:01:48,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, people absolutely loved that show. 32 00:01:48,813 --> 00:01:50,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard a voice. 33 00:01:50,573 --> 00:01:52,693 Speaker 3: Oh, he's incredible. Have you seen him performing the national 34 00:01:52,733 --> 00:01:55,093 Speaker 3: anthem at the Super Bowl? No, that guy, you have 35 00:01:55,093 --> 00:01:55,533 Speaker 3: to watch that. 36 00:01:55,813 --> 00:02:00,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a voice, great guitarist, you know, the real deal. 37 00:02:00,293 --> 00:02:03,613 Speaker 4: Yeah. And then you had the Champions Day racing at 38 00:02:03,613 --> 00:02:05,653 Speaker 4: Ellerslie the Polo which I went to. 39 00:02:05,733 --> 00:02:09,053 Speaker 3: That was good. Yeah, yeah, and then various rugby and 40 00:02:09,173 --> 00:02:10,252 Speaker 3: sporting fixtures. 41 00:02:10,373 --> 00:02:13,613 Speaker 2: Yeah good, bring it on. Good times absolutely right time 42 00:02:13,693 --> 00:02:15,613 Speaker 2: was had by all across the entire nation. 43 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:18,533 Speaker 4: He was and speaking a good times onto the show 44 00:02:18,532 --> 00:02:21,373 Speaker 4: today after three o'clock. I want to talk about binge 45 00:02:21,413 --> 00:02:25,653 Speaker 4: watching versus weekly episodes, all drop in on a weekly basis, 46 00:02:25,693 --> 00:02:29,013 Speaker 4: how it used to be before these streaming giants came along. 47 00:02:29,093 --> 00:02:30,852 Speaker 2: Speaking of events, So I went along to the rugby 48 00:02:30,853 --> 00:02:34,133 Speaker 2: at Eden Park and we're watching the Brumbries and Blues. 49 00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:38,573 Speaker 3: Anyway, anyway, I don't want to talk about that anymore. 50 00:02:38,853 --> 00:02:40,572 Speaker 2: A bunch of friends of our sitting around the table 51 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:46,853 Speaker 2: started talking about White Lotus and you know, our theories 52 00:02:46,893 --> 00:02:49,013 Speaker 2: on that show, and it just got me thinking, how 53 00:02:49,093 --> 00:02:51,653 Speaker 2: much better is week to week television then binging it? 54 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:54,532 Speaker 2: Because binging sucks the soul out of you. Sit there, 55 00:02:54,573 --> 00:02:57,213 Speaker 2: watch one episode after one episode after one episode in 56 00:02:57,252 --> 00:03:01,093 Speaker 2: a row, stay out late. You need You only need 57 00:03:01,133 --> 00:03:03,572 Speaker 2: to watch forty five minutes show of a week a week, 58 00:03:03,613 --> 00:03:05,093 Speaker 2: and then you think about it and you come. 59 00:03:04,972 --> 00:03:05,373 Speaker 3: Back to it. 60 00:03:05,653 --> 00:03:08,453 Speaker 2: You don't need to watch that much television. So I 61 00:03:08,453 --> 00:03:11,213 Speaker 2: I just think weekly shows, even if they're all dropped, 62 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:14,933 Speaker 2: even if like Stranger Things gets all dropped at once, 63 00:03:15,053 --> 00:03:16,093 Speaker 2: dumped at once. 64 00:03:16,013 --> 00:03:18,093 Speaker 4: Get some discipline and just watched one. 65 00:03:18,093 --> 00:03:19,573 Speaker 3: A week and then wait. 66 00:03:19,532 --> 00:03:21,813 Speaker 2: You need to do some other stuff, watch some other stuff. 67 00:03:21,972 --> 00:03:24,053 Speaker 2: I mean Clarks and Farms coming up pretty soon. 68 00:03:24,093 --> 00:03:25,893 Speaker 4: Oh, that's going to be hard to not binge watch 69 00:03:25,933 --> 00:03:27,813 Speaker 4: that one. I think that is dropped that weekly basis. 70 00:03:28,093 --> 00:03:29,333 Speaker 3: Just drop that on a weekly basis. 71 00:03:29,413 --> 00:03:32,292 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's about sixty odd days or a 72 00:03:32,333 --> 00:03:34,732 Speaker 2: couple of months away. 73 00:03:35,133 --> 00:03:38,093 Speaker 4: We were talking about watch parties though that I remember 74 00:03:38,173 --> 00:03:39,973 Speaker 4: watch parties for Lost when it was dropped on a 75 00:03:39,973 --> 00:03:42,093 Speaker 4: weekly basis, that would all go round to a friend's 76 00:03:42,133 --> 00:03:45,013 Speaker 4: place wait for eight thirty for the new episode of Lost. 77 00:03:45,013 --> 00:03:45,533 Speaker 4: It was good time. 78 00:03:45,653 --> 00:03:47,653 Speaker 2: There was a story writing Ponzi schime. They kep me 79 00:03:47,773 --> 00:03:49,413 Speaker 2: just putting money in and there was nothing in the 80 00:03:49,413 --> 00:03:49,773 Speaker 2: bank and. 81 00:03:49,813 --> 00:03:52,493 Speaker 3: Wepped off at the end. We got ripped off by 82 00:03:52,493 --> 00:03:52,893 Speaker 3: that one. 83 00:03:53,093 --> 00:03:57,013 Speaker 4: That is after three o'clock. Though after two o'clock, At 84 00:03:57,053 --> 00:04:01,133 Speaker 4: what point should you stop financially supporting your children? Great 85 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:05,173 Speaker 4: article in the New Zealand Herald about financially supporting children, 86 00:04:05,213 --> 00:04:06,213 Speaker 4: But it is a big question. 87 00:04:06,733 --> 00:04:07,733 Speaker 3: I think cut them off. 88 00:04:07,813 --> 00:04:10,973 Speaker 2: It sickx seend them down the chimneys. 89 00:04:10,973 --> 00:04:13,253 Speaker 4: It's pretty late. Yeah, it's pretty old at their stage, 90 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:13,653 Speaker 4: isn't it. 91 00:04:13,813 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 3: Well, that was the old way it used to work, 92 00:04:15,493 --> 00:04:15,893 Speaker 3: wasn't it. 93 00:04:16,533 --> 00:04:16,773 Speaker 6: Yeah? 94 00:04:16,813 --> 00:04:18,933 Speaker 2: I know, Because you know, I've got an eighteen year 95 00:04:18,933 --> 00:04:21,733 Speaker 2: old Sundays just starting university. I'm questioning how much I 96 00:04:21,773 --> 00:04:23,973 Speaker 2: pay for things, and currently it's still a lot. It's 97 00:04:23,973 --> 00:04:26,693 Speaker 2: hard as a parent to transition from doing the right 98 00:04:26,733 --> 00:04:30,173 Speaker 2: thing from your kids, from being a parent. That's nurturing 99 00:04:30,213 --> 00:04:32,573 Speaker 2: them and preparing them for the world to just letting 100 00:04:32,613 --> 00:04:34,293 Speaker 2: them go out into the world and making their own 101 00:04:34,293 --> 00:04:37,653 Speaker 2: mistakes and you know, risking it all and realizing how 102 00:04:37,693 --> 00:04:42,253 Speaker 2: important certain things are, like how much food costs and 103 00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,133 Speaker 2: how much you have to work to pay rent and 104 00:04:44,173 --> 00:04:46,573 Speaker 2: all those kind of things that you need to you 105 00:04:46,653 --> 00:04:48,333 Speaker 2: need to know, if you need to know become a 106 00:04:48,333 --> 00:04:49,973 Speaker 2: fully rounded citizen. 107 00:04:49,653 --> 00:04:50,173 Speaker 3: Of this country. 108 00:04:50,253 --> 00:04:52,413 Speaker 4: Yep, and kids are staying later at later at mum 109 00:04:52,453 --> 00:04:53,733 Speaker 4: and Dad's house, So that's going to be a good 110 00:04:53,733 --> 00:04:56,253 Speaker 4: discussion after two o'clock, because right now, let's have a 111 00:04:56,293 --> 00:05:00,133 Speaker 4: chat about the latest taxpay union curier Pole. Labor has 112 00:05:00,173 --> 00:05:03,173 Speaker 4: overtaken National in the latest poll, with Chris Hapkins also 113 00:05:03,293 --> 00:05:07,253 Speaker 4: pepping piping rather Christopher Luxin and the preferred prime minister stakes. 114 00:05:07,253 --> 00:05:10,493 Speaker 4: So according to the Pole results, National is up one 115 00:05:10,493 --> 00:05:13,213 Speaker 4: point seven points to thirty three point six percent, but 116 00:05:13,373 --> 00:05:16,173 Speaker 4: Labor has moved past it, up two point eight percent 117 00:05:16,293 --> 00:05:19,892 Speaker 4: to thirty four percent. The Greens they have stumbled down 118 00:05:19,933 --> 00:05:22,933 Speaker 4: three point two points to ten percent. Act has declined 119 00:05:22,973 --> 00:05:25,773 Speaker 4: two point three to seven point seven percent. To Party 120 00:05:25,773 --> 00:05:28,452 Speaker 4: Mali they've risen a couple of points to six point 121 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 4: five while New Zealand first is down one point three 122 00:05:31,453 --> 00:05:33,013 Speaker 4: points to five point one. 123 00:05:33,293 --> 00:05:34,653 Speaker 3: So what are the blocks looking at? 124 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:38,533 Speaker 4: So if we do some quick mathematics here, it's not 125 00:05:38,573 --> 00:05:41,293 Speaker 4: looking good for the current coalition government, But you've got 126 00:05:41,333 --> 00:05:44,773 Speaker 4: to argue it's not looking fantastic for the labor block 127 00:05:44,813 --> 00:05:47,773 Speaker 4: as well. Considering what Chris Hipkins had to say about 128 00:05:47,893 --> 00:05:50,853 Speaker 4: to Patty Malty last week. I mean, it is, according 129 00:05:50,853 --> 00:05:53,373 Speaker 4: to this pole, shaping up to be an interesting election, 130 00:05:53,573 --> 00:05:56,373 Speaker 4: but we preface that by saying the election is eighteen 131 00:05:56,413 --> 00:05:56,933 Speaker 4: months away. 132 00:05:57,333 --> 00:06:00,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, and our polls. Do we even care about poles 133 00:06:00,493 --> 00:06:03,533 Speaker 2: this far out or at all? If you do care, 134 00:06:03,573 --> 00:06:05,893 Speaker 2: what do you think Labour Nationals should do to turn 135 00:06:05,893 --> 00:06:08,333 Speaker 2: this around? Or should they just do what they're doing. 136 00:06:08,653 --> 00:06:10,933 Speaker 2: If they think it's right and wait for the country 137 00:06:11,253 --> 00:06:13,813 Speaker 2: to the economy to sort itself out. If they believe 138 00:06:13,893 --> 00:06:15,733 Speaker 2: that what they've got in place now is going to 139 00:06:15,773 --> 00:06:20,613 Speaker 2: pay dividends before the election, then they should do that 140 00:06:21,093 --> 00:06:24,013 Speaker 2: rather than completely pandering to the polls. It's like day 141 00:06:24,013 --> 00:06:27,453 Speaker 2: trading on your stocks. You can't be day trading on 142 00:06:27,493 --> 00:06:30,013 Speaker 2: your stocks or else you'll make crazy decisions. You have 143 00:06:30,053 --> 00:06:30,853 Speaker 2: to play the long game. 144 00:06:31,133 --> 00:06:33,653 Speaker 4: It just feels this far out from an election, if 145 00:06:33,653 --> 00:06:36,813 Speaker 4: you get wrung up by one of these posters, you 146 00:06:36,973 --> 00:06:38,973 Speaker 4: just want to give the current government a bit of 147 00:06:38,973 --> 00:06:41,213 Speaker 4: a serve, don't you. I don't think a lot of 148 00:06:41,253 --> 00:06:43,893 Speaker 4: these people and this is obviously my opinion, but do 149 00:06:43,973 --> 00:06:46,973 Speaker 4: you really think they have that intention to vote how 150 00:06:47,013 --> 00:06:49,733 Speaker 4: they've told these pollsters? When you're eighteen months away from election, 151 00:06:49,813 --> 00:06:52,653 Speaker 4: it's very easy to say, yeah, I'm grumpy with everything 152 00:06:52,733 --> 00:06:54,613 Speaker 4: at the moment, But then you get to the polling 153 00:06:54,653 --> 00:06:57,933 Speaker 4: booth come twenty twenty six, and your vote will be 154 00:06:58,013 --> 00:06:59,373 Speaker 4: very different to what you tell the posters. 155 00:06:59,413 --> 00:07:02,773 Speaker 2: Now, do only angry people bother answering the polls as well? 156 00:07:03,213 --> 00:07:05,893 Speaker 2: I mean looking into poll accuracy. It comes and goes, 157 00:07:05,933 --> 00:07:09,053 Speaker 2: doesn't it. And obviously eighteen months out and the Cliche 158 00:07:09,213 --> 00:07:12,933 Speaker 2: is the only poll that counts as the election day, obviously, 159 00:07:13,373 --> 00:07:16,373 Speaker 2: but eighteen months out there's a long way way away. 160 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:18,493 Speaker 3: But you know, if I. 161 00:07:18,373 --> 00:07:20,533 Speaker 2: Was asked to do if someone asked me to participate 162 00:07:20,573 --> 00:07:22,733 Speaker 2: in a political poll, I'd say, why would I bother 163 00:07:22,813 --> 00:07:24,533 Speaker 2: my time bother with that? 164 00:07:24,853 --> 00:07:25,133 Speaker 4: Yeah? 165 00:07:25,373 --> 00:07:26,613 Speaker 2: You know, out of all the things I could be 166 00:07:26,653 --> 00:07:29,813 Speaker 2: doing right now, just pumping up your poll, I'm not 167 00:07:29,813 --> 00:07:34,133 Speaker 2: going to do that. Yeah, I don't believe there's a 168 00:07:34,133 --> 00:07:35,653 Speaker 2: good chance. I wouldn believe it was a real pole, 169 00:07:36,973 --> 00:07:38,813 Speaker 2: thinking that I was involved in some kind of scam. 170 00:07:38,933 --> 00:07:41,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you actually get for completing a poll? 171 00:07:41,773 --> 00:07:45,213 Speaker 4: Do they give you money or some sort of you know, Tyler. 172 00:07:45,093 --> 00:07:46,773 Speaker 2: That would be the most corrupt thing ever, if they 173 00:07:46,853 --> 00:07:48,133 Speaker 2: paid you for the poll, what's the. 174 00:07:48,133 --> 00:07:48,733 Speaker 4: Point of doing it? 175 00:07:48,773 --> 00:07:48,933 Speaker 6: Then? 176 00:07:49,053 --> 00:07:52,053 Speaker 4: You know who would give an hour of their time 177 00:07:52,053 --> 00:07:52,853 Speaker 4: to do one of these poles? 178 00:07:53,053 --> 00:07:55,693 Speaker 2: Way undred eighty ten eighty. What do you think about 179 00:07:55,693 --> 00:07:58,413 Speaker 2: this poll? If you're a national supporter, what do you 180 00:07:58,413 --> 00:08:01,213 Speaker 2: think a national should do? If you're not a national supporter, 181 00:08:01,693 --> 00:08:03,573 Speaker 2: what do you think they should do? Poles are getting 182 00:08:03,573 --> 00:08:05,933 Speaker 2: more and more skewed, says. This text of this poll 183 00:08:05,973 --> 00:08:09,493 Speaker 2: was a random selection of fifteen thousand New Zealand phone numbers, 184 00:08:09,653 --> 00:08:12,333 Speaker 2: fifteen thousands a lot landlines and marbiles and a random 185 00:08:12,333 --> 00:08:15,133 Speaker 2: selection from the target population from up to three global 186 00:08:15,173 --> 00:08:18,293 Speaker 2: online panels. Who in the right mind actively joins an 187 00:08:18,293 --> 00:08:21,733 Speaker 2: online panel? Yeah, I mean an online panel is not 188 00:08:21,773 --> 00:08:22,653 Speaker 2: a real pole, is it? 189 00:08:22,973 --> 00:08:25,733 Speaker 4: No? No, I mean it does start to and I'm 190 00:08:25,733 --> 00:08:29,173 Speaker 4: just having to look at the methodology of this particular pole, 191 00:08:30,013 --> 00:08:32,373 Speaker 4: and it raises you know a good point that if 192 00:08:32,413 --> 00:08:36,453 Speaker 4: they're only just doing it by an online panel and 193 00:08:36,493 --> 00:08:39,013 Speaker 4: then the old landline. I know they are using mobile 194 00:08:39,013 --> 00:08:40,893 Speaker 4: phones a little bit more, but is it going to 195 00:08:40,892 --> 00:08:43,693 Speaker 4: be more skewed towards the older generation? You would argue 196 00:08:43,693 --> 00:08:44,292 Speaker 4: it would. 197 00:08:44,012 --> 00:08:48,612 Speaker 2: Be maybe, But maybe the older generation I don't know, 198 00:08:48,813 --> 00:08:51,893 Speaker 2: Like maybe they're more worried about scams than anyone at 199 00:08:51,973 --> 00:08:53,973 Speaker 2: least you guys don't get excited about poles like the 200 00:08:53,973 --> 00:08:57,612 Speaker 2: political media journalists do. Yeah, well, I'm not excited about 201 00:08:57,653 --> 00:08:59,213 Speaker 2: we are talking about it though, I mean, if that's 202 00:08:59,213 --> 00:09:01,973 Speaker 2: your if that is your angle on it. Eight hundred 203 00:09:01,973 --> 00:09:05,453 Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty Is this irrelevant to be looking 204 00:09:05,492 --> 00:09:06,732 Speaker 2: at poles eighteen months out? 205 00:09:06,892 --> 00:09:07,093 Speaker 5: Yeah? 206 00:09:07,372 --> 00:09:07,892 Speaker 3: Who cares? 207 00:09:08,492 --> 00:09:10,933 Speaker 4: If you are a national supporter? Should the party be 208 00:09:11,012 --> 00:09:14,652 Speaker 4: worried about this? It is I think the fourth consecutive 209 00:09:14,693 --> 00:09:16,772 Speaker 4: poll that shows them taking a bit of a hit. 210 00:09:17,012 --> 00:09:19,852 Speaker 4: Or do you just not care about polls eighteen months 211 00:09:19,852 --> 00:09:22,732 Speaker 4: out from an election? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 212 00:09:22,852 --> 00:09:24,693 Speaker 4: is the number to call? Nine two ninety two is 213 00:09:24,732 --> 00:09:27,172 Speaker 4: the text number. It is quart a past one back 214 00:09:27,252 --> 00:09:27,733 Speaker 4: very surely. 215 00:09:30,173 --> 00:09:33,612 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 216 00:09:33,892 --> 00:09:34,973 Speaker 1: everything in between. 217 00:09:35,173 --> 00:09:37,932 Speaker 5: Matt and Tayler afternoons with the Volvo. 218 00:09:37,813 --> 00:09:41,012 Speaker 1: XC ninety attention to detail and a commitment to comfort 219 00:09:41,093 --> 00:09:41,932 Speaker 1: news talks. 220 00:09:41,653 --> 00:09:41,973 Speaker 5: There'd be. 221 00:09:43,973 --> 00:09:46,773 Speaker 4: Good Afternoon. It is seventeen past one and we're talking 222 00:09:46,773 --> 00:09:50,252 Speaker 4: about the latest Taxpayers Union Caurier poll. It was released 223 00:09:50,252 --> 00:09:54,213 Speaker 4: this afternoon and shows Labor has overtaken National in that poll. So, 224 00:09:54,413 --> 00:09:58,053 Speaker 4: just to give you the rundown, according to the results, 225 00:09:58,372 --> 00:10:00,973 Speaker 4: National is up one point seven points to thirty three 226 00:10:01,012 --> 00:10:03,772 Speaker 4: point six percent, but Labor has moved past it, up 227 00:10:03,773 --> 00:10:07,412 Speaker 4: two point eight points to thirty four point one percent. 228 00:10:07,533 --> 00:10:10,453 Speaker 4: So the question we've put to you is what do 229 00:10:10,693 --> 00:10:13,773 Speaker 4: National need to do, if anything, to start to turn 230 00:10:13,813 --> 00:10:15,173 Speaker 4: these pole results around? 231 00:10:15,813 --> 00:10:19,533 Speaker 2: Or should they just ignore the poles and not day 232 00:10:19,533 --> 00:10:22,773 Speaker 2: trade on the poles, just play the long game. They've 233 00:10:22,773 --> 00:10:25,213 Speaker 2: obviously decided that what they want to do is the 234 00:10:25,293 --> 00:10:27,012 Speaker 2: right thing to do. Do they just keep doing it? 235 00:10:28,132 --> 00:10:30,533 Speaker 2: But I guess you could say that Poles might if 236 00:10:30,612 --> 00:10:34,012 Speaker 2: you believe Poles, and if you believe. 237 00:10:33,732 --> 00:10:36,492 Speaker 3: In the methodology of this particular pole. 238 00:10:36,892 --> 00:10:42,732 Speaker 2: Then maybe it's just questions your messaging and you still 239 00:10:42,773 --> 00:10:45,253 Speaker 2: do the same thing, but you just improve your messaging 240 00:10:45,252 --> 00:10:47,693 Speaker 2: on what you're doing. I mean, right, now it seems 241 00:10:47,732 --> 00:10:51,453 Speaker 2: like national getting an absolute hammering in the media. Everywhere 242 00:10:51,492 --> 00:10:54,492 Speaker 2: you look. Everywhere you look, someone's throwing rocks at them. 243 00:10:55,132 --> 00:10:57,413 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And whether that is fear or not, it's a 244 00:10:57,413 --> 00:11:00,132 Speaker 4: good question. But you know, you look at the trend 245 00:11:00,173 --> 00:11:02,373 Speaker 4: of polls. But eighteen months out, I don't know. I 246 00:11:02,413 --> 00:11:05,293 Speaker 4: think six months out from election is probably when you 247 00:11:05,333 --> 00:11:07,492 Speaker 4: start to panic a little bit. But can you hear 248 00:11:07,492 --> 00:11:09,732 Speaker 4: what you think? Oh wait, oh, eight one hundred eighty 249 00:11:09,773 --> 00:11:10,772 Speaker 4: ten eighty is the number. 250 00:11:10,612 --> 00:11:14,213 Speaker 2: To call Jonathan Welcome to show your thoughts on this pole. 251 00:11:15,453 --> 00:11:19,973 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, I think not important. I think we're not 252 00:11:19,973 --> 00:11:21,773 Speaker 7: seeing the real facts of what's going on out in 253 00:11:21,813 --> 00:11:23,573 Speaker 7: the media yet. I mean, there's always a lay about 254 00:11:23,573 --> 00:11:25,253 Speaker 7: three to six months of what's really happening. Like in 255 00:11:25,293 --> 00:11:28,172 Speaker 7: the property market, it has turned already and a lot 256 00:11:28,173 --> 00:11:31,933 Speaker 7: of the people out there have not realized it. There's 257 00:11:31,973 --> 00:11:35,373 Speaker 7: now shifting startians shift from a buyers market back to 258 00:11:35,413 --> 00:11:38,173 Speaker 7: a neutral marketer almost a seller's market. You know, things 259 00:11:38,173 --> 00:11:41,892 Speaker 7: are starting to shift again and that's not coming out 260 00:11:41,933 --> 00:11:43,973 Speaker 7: in the media. But I think, to be honest with 261 00:11:44,053 --> 00:11:48,132 Speaker 7: the media is so negative that they're really not talking 262 00:11:49,653 --> 00:11:52,612 Speaker 7: what I call the quiet majority, the quite majority of 263 00:11:52,612 --> 00:11:54,813 Speaker 7: those who actually have a job, go to work, work hard. 264 00:11:54,892 --> 00:11:57,293 Speaker 7: And the kids it's actually go to school. They're the 265 00:11:57,293 --> 00:11:59,532 Speaker 7: ones that are not talking to. So I don't believe 266 00:11:59,573 --> 00:12:00,532 Speaker 7: those polls were bona. 267 00:12:00,892 --> 00:12:03,453 Speaker 2: Do you think that the media as a whole is 268 00:12:03,653 --> 00:12:08,613 Speaker 2: more negative to this coalition government than they have previously. 269 00:12:08,132 --> 00:12:08,933 Speaker 3: Been to governments? 270 00:12:09,732 --> 00:12:09,892 Speaker 5: Oh? 271 00:12:09,933 --> 00:12:13,613 Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean you look at John Key's time and 272 00:12:13,693 --> 00:12:15,333 Speaker 7: in the way and this is what a lot of 273 00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:18,012 Speaker 7: the media I'll not be taken seriously too. A lot 274 00:12:18,053 --> 00:12:20,532 Speaker 7: of people I socialized work do not even watch the 275 00:12:20,573 --> 00:12:22,932 Speaker 7: news now, do not take it seriously. I listened to 276 00:12:23,012 --> 00:12:25,372 Speaker 7: the radio, so you talk and talk about radio or 277 00:12:25,413 --> 00:12:29,253 Speaker 7: that most of them I would call the sitement rightly, 278 00:12:29,333 --> 00:12:31,533 Speaker 7: listen to you guys, but I do not take any 279 00:12:31,573 --> 00:12:34,533 Speaker 7: notice of what the channel one, channel three. I mean, 280 00:12:34,573 --> 00:12:36,093 Speaker 7: I hard to watch the news now, it's just a joke. 281 00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:37,093 Speaker 7: My kids don't even watch it. 282 00:12:37,973 --> 00:12:41,133 Speaker 2: But so, what do you think that this poll has 283 00:12:41,213 --> 00:12:43,333 Speaker 2: come back the way it has? If you if you 284 00:12:43,333 --> 00:12:47,093 Speaker 2: believe it doesn't represent what New Zealanders believe, or do 285 00:12:47,132 --> 00:12:49,093 Speaker 2: you do you represent that? Do you think that it's 286 00:12:49,093 --> 00:12:50,533 Speaker 2: just a lag and that if you did the same 287 00:12:50,573 --> 00:12:52,773 Speaker 2: poll again in three months and it would represent what 288 00:12:52,852 --> 00:12:53,693 Speaker 2: New Zealand does believe. 289 00:12:54,732 --> 00:12:59,013 Speaker 7: I think Laxton doesn't. He just doesn't next with the 290 00:12:59,813 --> 00:13:02,172 Speaker 7: I mean he's a lot of baggage. Well what I 291 00:13:02,213 --> 00:13:04,973 Speaker 7: did of he's on the Poet and Any Zealand for 292 00:13:05,012 --> 00:13:07,612 Speaker 7: a lot of people. He really got a lot of 293 00:13:07,612 --> 00:13:09,733 Speaker 7: people angry, spit up and the Nelson region christ which 294 00:13:09,892 --> 00:13:11,213 Speaker 7: when he shut down the engineer. 295 00:13:11,573 --> 00:13:12,652 Speaker 8: So he's that factor. 296 00:13:13,492 --> 00:13:16,173 Speaker 7: But he's good at pulling things down. But I don't 297 00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:19,133 Speaker 7: think he's got it creating hope seemster john Key is 298 00:13:20,333 --> 00:13:22,333 Speaker 7: he was. We people used to say he flip flopped 299 00:13:22,372 --> 00:13:24,893 Speaker 7: as he listened to the people and he would move 300 00:13:25,053 --> 00:13:27,453 Speaker 7: with the title. He had that air or that ability 301 00:13:27,453 --> 00:13:30,093 Speaker 7: to issually listen, and I don't think Latson comes across 302 00:13:30,173 --> 00:13:32,293 Speaker 7: as listening. But I don't think it'd be I don't 303 00:13:32,293 --> 00:13:34,173 Speaker 7: think he'd be a premise by the end of the year, 304 00:13:34,213 --> 00:13:34,892 Speaker 7: if I'd be honest. 305 00:13:35,372 --> 00:13:35,932 Speaker 4: Yeah. 306 00:13:36,012 --> 00:13:39,333 Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because you know, I've had a various 307 00:13:39,372 --> 00:13:42,693 Speaker 2: dealings with Christopher luxon out and about at events or 308 00:13:43,132 --> 00:13:46,132 Speaker 2: you know, interviewing him on air and you know, talking 309 00:13:46,132 --> 00:13:49,293 Speaker 2: to him off and he's a very personable. He's very 310 00:13:49,372 --> 00:13:52,012 Speaker 2: personal in real life. He's very interesting in people remembers 311 00:13:52,012 --> 00:13:54,652 Speaker 2: things about them and comes across. 312 00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:56,973 Speaker 3: Very very well one to one, But. 313 00:13:57,293 --> 00:14:01,252 Speaker 2: It seems he's not really coming across that well on 314 00:14:01,252 --> 00:14:02,493 Speaker 2: on on on the camera. 315 00:14:03,573 --> 00:14:05,172 Speaker 7: I think that's a fair comment. I mean I've actually 316 00:14:05,173 --> 00:14:07,892 Speaker 7: met him too, and I brought up an issue that 317 00:14:08,372 --> 00:14:12,413 Speaker 7: he sort of side washington't take it seriously. And because 318 00:14:12,413 --> 00:14:14,533 Speaker 7: we're at a meeting and with a lot of National 319 00:14:14,573 --> 00:14:16,333 Speaker 7: supporters there, and one of the issues we brought up was, 320 00:14:16,372 --> 00:14:18,093 Speaker 7: you know, the education of our children. They all leaving 321 00:14:18,132 --> 00:14:20,693 Speaker 7: over seas because like we said to on the student 322 00:14:20,733 --> 00:14:22,292 Speaker 7: louts before that a shoe up of them. I said, 323 00:14:22,573 --> 00:14:24,973 Speaker 7: why is it you have twenty year olds depending on 324 00:14:25,013 --> 00:14:27,413 Speaker 7: the parents' income to the louts when you can said, 325 00:14:27,413 --> 00:14:29,173 Speaker 7: why don't you flip up and make it the doll 326 00:14:29,453 --> 00:14:32,253 Speaker 7: depend on appearents' income rather than students. And he sort 327 00:14:32,293 --> 00:14:34,933 Speaker 7: of just he just came across to the b arrigan 328 00:14:35,053 --> 00:14:37,213 Speaker 7: and I think he just doesn't resonate. 329 00:14:36,853 --> 00:14:37,613 Speaker 9: With a lot of people. 330 00:14:38,093 --> 00:14:40,493 Speaker 7: And yeah, that's why I don't think he'd be privacy 331 00:14:40,533 --> 00:14:42,213 Speaker 7: at the end of the year. I actually think my 332 00:14:42,693 --> 00:14:45,533 Speaker 7: money's on Brown. Oh that's Sam and Brown thing over. 333 00:14:45,613 --> 00:14:48,052 Speaker 7: He's just he's more sharp, So I think we'll all 334 00:14:48,053 --> 00:14:49,333 Speaker 7: have a change. 335 00:14:49,613 --> 00:14:53,532 Speaker 2: Do you think that's kind of a cultured personality thing though, Jonathan, 336 00:14:54,293 --> 00:14:55,893 Speaker 2: wouldn't it be better? And look, I mean this is 337 00:14:55,973 --> 00:14:58,013 Speaker 2: absolute pie in the sky stuff and it will never happen, 338 00:14:58,293 --> 00:15:00,013 Speaker 2: But how good it would would it be. 339 00:14:59,973 --> 00:15:03,133 Speaker 3: If if it was people just looked at the list. 340 00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:07,053 Speaker 2: Of the policies and on soberly looked at them and 341 00:15:07,093 --> 00:15:09,373 Speaker 2: decided what they support and what they don't rather than 342 00:15:09,533 --> 00:15:10,773 Speaker 2: how someone comes across. 343 00:15:11,773 --> 00:15:15,493 Speaker 7: Well, unfortunately people don't do that. Unfortunately, cult on the 344 00:15:15,493 --> 00:15:18,653 Speaker 7: person now can't important? To be honest? Who sent and read? 345 00:15:18,893 --> 00:15:21,293 Speaker 7: I mean have you actually read initially, like when the 346 00:15:21,293 --> 00:15:24,173 Speaker 7: rents legislatus came out the textbality, have you read through that? 347 00:15:24,293 --> 00:15:26,932 Speaker 3: Well we talked we kind of have to read a 348 00:15:26,933 --> 00:15:27,532 Speaker 3: bit of that stuff. 349 00:15:27,893 --> 00:15:31,733 Speaker 10: Yeah, job, Yeah. 350 00:15:31,653 --> 00:15:34,573 Speaker 7: But the average person doesn't actually read anything. They listen 351 00:15:34,613 --> 00:15:36,613 Speaker 7: to the media and they make the opinions on something 352 00:15:36,613 --> 00:15:41,053 Speaker 7: else's opinion, rather than you'll think, yeah, can you blame people? 353 00:15:41,613 --> 00:15:45,133 Speaker 3: I mean people are working longer and longer hours and 354 00:15:45,133 --> 00:15:48,573 Speaker 3: and things are harder, and things are more expensive, and 355 00:15:48,613 --> 00:15:51,213 Speaker 3: they finished the day. Okay, I'm just going to sit 356 00:15:51,293 --> 00:15:53,453 Speaker 3: down and read some legislation. 357 00:15:55,493 --> 00:15:57,853 Speaker 7: I know, it's just been a bit of you know 358 00:15:57,893 --> 00:15:59,733 Speaker 7: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is people do not 359 00:15:59,773 --> 00:16:03,853 Speaker 7: actually read it for themselves. They rely on other people's opinion. 360 00:16:04,333 --> 00:16:08,333 Speaker 7: And I think, at the moment, what's this change the government? 361 00:16:08,733 --> 00:16:11,253 Speaker 7: Normally you have a honeymoon period and Luston never really 362 00:16:11,253 --> 00:16:15,093 Speaker 7: got that. He doesn't catch people's imagination. I just can't 363 00:16:15,093 --> 00:16:17,533 Speaker 7: put my finger on it. But I think he means 364 00:16:17,533 --> 00:16:19,853 Speaker 7: well and I do generally believe that. I just don't 365 00:16:19,853 --> 00:16:22,893 Speaker 7: think he's a leader. Maybe he's a two C some 366 00:16:22,893 --> 00:16:27,013 Speaker 7: people suite. She's like, he's not a leader, and I 367 00:16:27,093 --> 00:16:29,933 Speaker 7: think Laxton's like that. With Simy Brown, I think he's 368 00:16:29,973 --> 00:16:33,333 Speaker 7: the future of national I mean, just watch what he's 369 00:16:33,373 --> 00:16:39,973 Speaker 7: doing him And what's her name, finance lady. She's incredible. Yeah, 370 00:16:40,053 --> 00:16:42,773 Speaker 7: she's an incredible in person. I met her and she's lovely. 371 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:47,893 Speaker 7: She's curing, really curing, an empaphetic lady, and you know, 372 00:16:48,053 --> 00:16:49,973 Speaker 7: but she's you know, one of those two will be 373 00:16:50,013 --> 00:16:52,172 Speaker 7: the leader. But I just don't think Laxon's got just 374 00:16:52,453 --> 00:16:53,133 Speaker 7: have quite got it. 375 00:16:53,413 --> 00:16:56,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you think people go for Simon Brown once 376 00:16:56,133 --> 00:16:57,333 Speaker 2: he's thirty three years old? 377 00:16:57,813 --> 00:16:59,453 Speaker 3: Do you think people would think that's too young. 378 00:17:04,653 --> 00:17:11,533 Speaker 7: I think with Simon is very proficient for his age. 379 00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:15,373 Speaker 7: And forgot he's that young godness because I look at 380 00:17:15,413 --> 00:17:17,773 Speaker 7: his ability and I think if you look at his ability, 381 00:17:17,893 --> 00:17:21,493 Speaker 7: he just stands out. He just he's clean cut, he's 382 00:17:21,853 --> 00:17:25,253 Speaker 7: a strong family man. He's got his personal religious views, 383 00:17:25,293 --> 00:17:27,813 Speaker 7: but he doesn't push it down people stroke So he's 384 00:17:28,933 --> 00:17:31,213 Speaker 7: He's got a lot of substance time as a person. 385 00:17:31,933 --> 00:17:33,413 Speaker 11: And that's what I think. 386 00:17:33,413 --> 00:17:35,093 Speaker 7: When need is a leader, some think is hope. That's 387 00:17:35,133 --> 00:17:38,013 Speaker 7: what leadership is about. A leadership should be about we 388 00:17:38,173 --> 00:17:40,413 Speaker 7: see a future, not let's pull. If you're down, let 389 00:17:40,453 --> 00:17:43,573 Speaker 7: stop the jobs. We've just got to switch start having 390 00:17:43,613 --> 00:17:44,533 Speaker 7: a growth mentality. 391 00:17:45,853 --> 00:17:48,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan, thank you very much. I mean, just on 392 00:17:48,573 --> 00:17:52,733 Speaker 4: that thanks mate, Just on that point about having a salesperson, 393 00:17:52,893 --> 00:17:54,613 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, that's kind of what you need, right. 394 00:17:54,693 --> 00:17:59,133 Speaker 4: John Key was very effective. It's selling his ideas and 395 00:17:59,813 --> 00:18:02,453 Speaker 4: hope to New Zealanders, but also just having a pulse 396 00:18:02,493 --> 00:18:04,573 Speaker 4: of the nation. He was someone that you wouldn't mind 397 00:18:04,653 --> 00:18:06,693 Speaker 4: having a barbecue with or having a beer with. Whether 398 00:18:06,813 --> 00:18:09,133 Speaker 4: Chris Luxen is that or will he ever be that, 399 00:18:09,373 --> 00:18:11,573 Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't think Sammy and Brown is 400 00:18:11,653 --> 00:18:15,493 Speaker 4: quite there either. Mark Mitchell, for example, he is a 401 00:18:15,653 --> 00:18:20,493 Speaker 4: very likable, very likable guy, very charming. But whether there 402 00:18:20,493 --> 00:18:22,293 Speaker 4: will be a change of leadership for the election, that's 403 00:18:22,293 --> 00:18:22,933 Speaker 4: a big quar to make. 404 00:18:22,973 --> 00:18:24,653 Speaker 3: It's a huge quarter make. I've got a theory on this, 405 00:18:24,733 --> 00:18:26,292 Speaker 3: sort of like to share share neck. 406 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:29,493 Speaker 2: So I've got a theory on what Christopher Luxon's doing, okay, 407 00:18:29,653 --> 00:18:30,653 Speaker 2: and where he's getting it wrong. 408 00:18:30,773 --> 00:18:34,373 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but keen it might be terrible. I 409 00:18:34,373 --> 00:18:34,933 Speaker 3: haven't told you. 410 00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:37,253 Speaker 4: Keen to hear from you though. Oh one hundred and 411 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,813 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 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I need 439 00:20:05,053 --> 00:20:05,853 Speaker 13: an argument about it. 440 00:20:06,253 --> 00:20:07,453 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've seen a range of. 441 00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:12,093 Speaker 13: Just to explain WA Western Australia. The expectation on Saturday 442 00:20:12,173 --> 00:20:14,853 Speaker 13: night was it was all on big swing coming and 443 00:20:15,093 --> 00:20:16,613 Speaker 13: they're going to pick up a whole bunch of seats 444 00:20:16,933 --> 00:20:17,493 Speaker 13: didn't happen. 445 00:20:17,853 --> 00:20:20,532 Speaker 6: Dress your ass like the numbers on a house, how 446 00:20:20,613 --> 00:20:21,573 Speaker 6: other numbers on a house? 447 00:20:21,573 --> 00:20:23,373 Speaker 4: I don't know what your numbers on a house are. 448 00:20:24,253 --> 00:20:26,573 Speaker 13: I'm going to dress your ass back tomorrow at six 449 00:20:26,653 --> 00:20:30,333 Speaker 13: am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's Real Estate Newstalk 450 00:20:30,413 --> 00:20:30,693 Speaker 13: z B. 451 00:20:32,813 --> 00:20:36,773 Speaker 4: Good afternoon. We're talking about the latest Tankspayer Union's Curier poll, 452 00:20:37,173 --> 00:20:40,213 Speaker 4: which shows again not a great result for the National 453 00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:43,613 Speaker 4: Lead Coalition and the National Party full stop for that matter. 454 00:20:43,973 --> 00:20:46,853 Speaker 4: Now before the break you mentioned you've got a bit 455 00:20:46,893 --> 00:20:47,333 Speaker 4: of a theory. 456 00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:48,293 Speaker 3: Mat Yeah, I do. 457 00:20:48,493 --> 00:20:50,453 Speaker 2: This is This is my theory, and like, I don't 458 00:20:50,453 --> 00:20:52,773 Speaker 2: have any insight into here except for just looking at 459 00:20:52,813 --> 00:20:55,093 Speaker 2: everything and bringing it together into my brain and then 460 00:20:55,333 --> 00:20:56,093 Speaker 2: spewing this out. 461 00:20:56,173 --> 00:20:59,133 Speaker 4: Love it right, Okay, here we go, I believe. 462 00:20:59,613 --> 00:21:03,173 Speaker 2: So Chris Luxon and John Key best mates in each 463 00:21:03,173 --> 00:21:05,973 Speaker 2: other's pocket. You've got an X prime minister who was 464 00:21:06,053 --> 00:21:07,973 Speaker 2: very successful and liked for the whole time he was there, 465 00:21:08,013 --> 00:21:10,733 Speaker 2: but it was a charismatic guy and people just seem 466 00:21:10,813 --> 00:21:14,773 Speaker 2: to gravitate towards him. He's the person that's advising Christopher Luxon. 467 00:21:15,013 --> 00:21:17,413 Speaker 2: He's also advising Christopher Luxon from a time when he 468 00:21:17,533 --> 00:21:20,733 Speaker 2: was Prime minister, which was you know, two thousand and 469 00:21:21,093 --> 00:21:23,973 Speaker 2: eight to twenty sixteen, which is a hugely different time. 470 00:21:23,973 --> 00:21:28,933 Speaker 2: We're talking nine years ago. He no longer he left 471 00:21:28,973 --> 00:21:31,933 Speaker 2: being prime minister, and so I think what's happening is 472 00:21:32,613 --> 00:21:35,333 Speaker 2: that Christopher Luxon is taking his advice for John Key, 473 00:21:35,773 --> 00:21:38,933 Speaker 2: a guy that had you know, went for a very 474 00:21:39,013 --> 00:21:41,773 Speaker 2: centralist approach, but had an ability to bring people along. 475 00:21:42,173 --> 00:21:45,173 Speaker 2: And so maybe Christopher Luckxon's got the same capability as 476 00:21:45,253 --> 00:21:47,333 Speaker 2: John Key. I mean, john Key obviously had a Bill 477 00:21:47,373 --> 00:21:50,453 Speaker 2: English who was a great a great supporter and did 478 00:21:50,493 --> 00:21:53,053 Speaker 2: a lot of the base work, where John Key could 479 00:21:53,093 --> 00:21:54,213 Speaker 2: go out and do what's popular. 480 00:21:54,293 --> 00:21:54,413 Speaker 5: Right. 481 00:21:55,093 --> 00:21:58,053 Speaker 2: So I just think if you're getting your advice from 482 00:21:58,093 --> 00:22:00,053 Speaker 2: a guy that's a very different person from you, with 483 00:22:00,133 --> 00:22:02,413 Speaker 2: a very different set of skills, I think he can 484 00:22:02,493 --> 00:22:05,933 Speaker 2: end up in the wrong, wrong position. Because how many 485 00:22:05,973 --> 00:22:09,453 Speaker 2: scandals did John Key have that just was Yes, people 486 00:22:09,493 --> 00:22:12,052 Speaker 2: were like, you know, people were throwing so much mud 487 00:22:12,093 --> 00:22:14,493 Speaker 2: at him the whole time, and it just it just 488 00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:17,013 Speaker 2: sort of washed off on what they called him. 489 00:22:17,053 --> 00:22:19,853 Speaker 4: People liked him, Yeah, yeah, but you mentioned as team 490 00:22:19,933 --> 00:22:22,093 Speaker 4: that he had behind him as well built English. Steven 491 00:22:22,213 --> 00:22:24,733 Speaker 4: Joyce next myth to a lesser extent. But you know, 492 00:22:24,853 --> 00:22:28,453 Speaker 4: these were pretty capable Simon Bridges. Yep, Simon Bridges. These 493 00:22:28,453 --> 00:22:31,133 Speaker 4: were very capable MPs and ministers in their own right. 494 00:22:31,373 --> 00:22:33,533 Speaker 4: Whether Chris Lauson has that behind him, I don't know. 495 00:22:33,613 --> 00:22:35,093 Speaker 4: It's a good theory, though, very good theory. 496 00:22:35,173 --> 00:22:37,173 Speaker 2: Well, if you try to run the likable playbook when 497 00:22:37,253 --> 00:22:39,613 Speaker 2: for some reason you don't come off likable on the 498 00:22:39,853 --> 00:22:42,533 Speaker 2: and and and straight up on the on the camera 499 00:22:42,613 --> 00:22:45,893 Speaker 2: and the interviews, then you're end up in a difficult situation, 500 00:22:45,973 --> 00:22:47,653 Speaker 2: don't you You need to be playing another playbook. 501 00:22:47,853 --> 00:22:51,013 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right. A couple of texts, then headlines coming 502 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:53,093 Speaker 4: up afternoon goes and joined the topic today. 503 00:22:53,093 --> 00:22:55,253 Speaker 2: I believe lux in a similar to Helen Clark, highly 504 00:22:55,373 --> 00:22:59,333 Speaker 2: capable but with a pr problem and seemingly unlikeable arcus. 505 00:22:59,973 --> 00:23:00,453 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 506 00:23:00,573 --> 00:23:04,333 Speaker 2: But Helen Clark was pretty popular as a Prime minister 507 00:23:05,253 --> 00:23:06,253 Speaker 2: for the first two terms. 508 00:23:06,333 --> 00:23:08,093 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was only on the final term she became 509 00:23:08,173 --> 00:23:11,893 Speaker 4: up likable. Right, guys, are we eighteen months out or 510 00:23:11,973 --> 00:23:14,013 Speaker 4: eighteen months in on their term? There's still a lot 511 00:23:14,013 --> 00:23:15,693 Speaker 4: of water to go under the bridge. Yeah, well that's 512 00:23:15,733 --> 00:23:17,773 Speaker 4: fair point, and we're both I mean give will take 513 00:23:17,813 --> 00:23:19,933 Speaker 4: eighteen months because the election gets called a little bit 514 00:23:19,973 --> 00:23:22,893 Speaker 4: closer to the time, but we are still only halfway 515 00:23:22,933 --> 00:23:24,853 Speaker 4: through the term. What whatever way you slice it. 516 00:23:25,053 --> 00:23:27,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's also another question. Should nationally even be 517 00:23:28,013 --> 00:23:31,013 Speaker 2: looking at these poles. Should they be worrying about them 518 00:23:31,093 --> 00:23:34,173 Speaker 2: changing direction or should they just back themselves and what 519 00:23:34,213 --> 00:23:36,453 Speaker 2: they're doing is right and that people will catch up. 520 00:23:36,573 --> 00:23:38,493 Speaker 4: Yep, love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred and 521 00:23:38,533 --> 00:23:41,133 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two 522 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:44,213 Speaker 4: ninety two is the text number. Headlines with Rayling coming 523 00:23:44,293 --> 00:23:45,413 Speaker 4: up twenty seven to two. 524 00:23:48,293 --> 00:23:51,973 Speaker 14: U talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis It's 525 00:23:52,053 --> 00:23:55,133 Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Overall support for the 526 00:23:55,213 --> 00:24:00,413 Speaker 14: Coalitions continued to slide. In a new Taxpayers Union Career poll, 527 00:24:00,893 --> 00:24:03,933 Speaker 14: it has national rising to thirty three point six percent, 528 00:24:04,293 --> 00:24:08,013 Speaker 14: but Labor is up on thirty four point one. Support 529 00:24:08,533 --> 00:24:11,213 Speaker 14: for the Greens enz First and to Act and it's 530 00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:14,133 Speaker 14: risen to six and a half percent. Foot to Party mardy. 531 00:24:15,173 --> 00:24:19,333 Speaker 14: Canadian Prime Minister designate Mark Carney has accused Donald Trump 532 00:24:19,413 --> 00:24:24,173 Speaker 14: of attacking his country's families, workers and businesses. He's confirmed 533 00:24:24,413 --> 00:24:28,973 Speaker 14: he'll uphold predecessor Justin Trudeau's retaliatory tariffs on the US. 534 00:24:30,333 --> 00:24:32,933 Speaker 14: Armed to police have been responding to an incident on 535 00:24:33,053 --> 00:24:37,293 Speaker 14: Dunedin's tai Edi Road. Firefighters have been battling a large 536 00:24:37,333 --> 00:24:41,013 Speaker 14: blaze at Hamilton's Frankton Motor Waft and car repair panel. 537 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:46,173 Speaker 14: Beaters to Aucklander's unlawfully evicted for complaining about their living 538 00:24:46,213 --> 00:24:49,853 Speaker 14: conditions have triumphed over their landlords, who must pay them 539 00:24:49,893 --> 00:24:54,773 Speaker 14: nearly twenty six thousand dollars in damages and compensation. Public 540 00:24:54,893 --> 00:24:57,933 Speaker 14: invited to see inside the new multi billion dollar Auckland 541 00:24:58,013 --> 00:25:01,653 Speaker 14: department complex. You can see more at enzid Herald Premium. 542 00:25:01,973 --> 00:25:03,813 Speaker 14: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 543 00:25:03,933 --> 00:25:06,213 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Rayllan. We're talking about the latest 544 00:25:06,293 --> 00:25:10,173 Speaker 4: taxpayer union curier pollnock. There rate news for the Coalision 545 00:25:10,253 --> 00:25:13,173 Speaker 4: government or for the National Party. So the question we've 546 00:25:13,173 --> 00:25:15,733 Speaker 4: put out there is what, if anything, do National need 547 00:25:15,813 --> 00:25:18,053 Speaker 4: to do to try and turn it around or do 548 00:25:18,173 --> 00:25:19,653 Speaker 4: you not care about the polls? And we're that far 549 00:25:19,773 --> 00:25:21,373 Speaker 4: up from an election it doesn't really matter. 550 00:25:21,653 --> 00:25:22,973 Speaker 3: Po's on the poles. Who even cares? 551 00:25:23,253 --> 00:25:25,613 Speaker 2: Guys, The problem with light bulb blucking is nobody knows 552 00:25:25,693 --> 00:25:27,693 Speaker 2: what he stands for. He's like a John Key tribute 553 00:25:27,693 --> 00:25:31,373 Speaker 2: band playing and just sender art and setlist and rapidly 554 00:25:31,493 --> 00:25:34,373 Speaker 2: becoming increasingly apparent that he's not the man we thought 555 00:25:34,453 --> 00:25:34,773 Speaker 2: he was. 556 00:25:35,453 --> 00:25:37,333 Speaker 4: Well, that's not a bad text to me. 557 00:25:37,413 --> 00:25:37,733 Speaker 5: There you go. 558 00:25:37,853 --> 00:25:41,773 Speaker 3: He's a John Key tribute band playing just settless. 559 00:25:42,053 --> 00:25:44,013 Speaker 4: What the analogy? Thank you very much for that. 560 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:47,173 Speaker 2: Here we go, Hey, here we go. The Tommy Knockers 561 00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:49,653 Speaker 2: are out in force. The herd mentality is taking over 562 00:25:49,813 --> 00:25:52,773 Speaker 2: months of media pylons and misquotes, and the polls show 563 00:25:52,813 --> 00:25:55,853 Speaker 2: a draw and it's immediately Luxe's fault. National are as 564 00:25:55,933 --> 00:25:58,453 Speaker 2: good as gold. Look at the pole again. If you 565 00:25:58,533 --> 00:26:01,573 Speaker 2: think living in an Amriah's the way to go, you've 566 00:26:01,613 --> 00:26:06,013 Speaker 2: got to be effing joking. Keep advising Luxeon. Where's your proof? 567 00:26:06,293 --> 00:26:09,453 Speaker 2: You guys aren't political commentators. You're talk host. A recent 568 00:26:09,493 --> 00:26:12,133 Speaker 2: post on social media wasn't exactly kind about you or 569 00:26:12,213 --> 00:26:15,013 Speaker 2: your show, unfortunately, Reese. Okay, so he's just said having 570 00:26:15,053 --> 00:26:17,333 Speaker 2: a shot at every anyone. Yeah, I mean, I would 571 00:26:17,373 --> 00:26:19,453 Speaker 2: argue that anyone's allowed to talk about the politics in 572 00:26:19,533 --> 00:26:19,813 Speaker 2: the nation. 573 00:26:20,653 --> 00:26:24,373 Speaker 3: So is this person saying Reese? So you're saying. 574 00:26:28,653 --> 00:26:32,613 Speaker 2: That a few you guys aren't political commentators. So are 575 00:26:32,653 --> 00:26:35,333 Speaker 2: you saying that only a certain class of elites are 576 00:26:35,333 --> 00:26:37,733 Speaker 2: allowed to talk about the politics in New Zealand? What 577 00:26:37,733 --> 00:26:39,973 Speaker 2: would those qualifications reach that you would need to have 578 00:26:40,773 --> 00:26:42,933 Speaker 2: before you could talk about politics. 579 00:26:43,013 --> 00:26:46,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of what we do here. Has had 580 00:26:46,253 --> 00:26:49,773 Speaker 4: discussions and debate there to fix you know, and our listeners. 581 00:26:49,853 --> 00:26:55,453 Speaker 2: And a recent social media post wasn't wasn't pleasant about us? 582 00:26:55,533 --> 00:26:58,853 Speaker 2: Oh my, oh my god, oh my god, a nasty 583 00:26:58,933 --> 00:27:00,453 Speaker 2: social media post, Reese. 584 00:27:00,533 --> 00:27:02,213 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I'm hanging out my headphones on 585 00:27:02,253 --> 00:27:03,173 Speaker 3: the back of that happened. 586 00:27:04,453 --> 00:27:07,013 Speaker 4: Thank you very much for that, Reese. All right, let's 587 00:27:07,053 --> 00:27:07,693 Speaker 4: go to the phones. 588 00:27:07,773 --> 00:27:09,453 Speaker 3: Get a dam Dan, welcome to the show. 589 00:27:10,813 --> 00:27:10,973 Speaker 15: Good. 590 00:27:11,213 --> 00:27:14,853 Speaker 3: How are you good, mate? How are you very good? 591 00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:15,253 Speaker 6: Now? 592 00:27:15,453 --> 00:27:16,213 Speaker 5: I think Chris. 593 00:27:16,773 --> 00:27:22,733 Speaker 15: Part of Chris Lutton's problem is that a few months ago, 594 00:27:22,893 --> 00:27:26,613 Speaker 15: when he got on TV and sold a couple of 595 00:27:26,693 --> 00:27:31,533 Speaker 15: his houses, that he made good money on them, and 596 00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:35,613 Speaker 15: that doesn't go down too well with people who were 597 00:27:35,733 --> 00:27:37,733 Speaker 15: struggling to pay mortgages? 598 00:27:39,733 --> 00:27:40,213 Speaker 16: Was that, Dan? 599 00:27:40,573 --> 00:27:41,333 Speaker 3: Why do you think that is? 600 00:27:41,413 --> 00:27:44,013 Speaker 5: Dan? Part of me? 601 00:27:44,733 --> 00:27:48,493 Speaker 2: Why would people have a problem with a successful person 602 00:27:48,933 --> 00:27:49,533 Speaker 2: making money? 603 00:27:51,453 --> 00:27:57,253 Speaker 15: Well, I think It doesn't just doesn't sit right on. 604 00:27:57,533 --> 00:28:02,893 Speaker 15: Here is Chris Lutson, the Prime Minister, making heaps of 605 00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:06,293 Speaker 15: money on houses, and here am I struggling to pay 606 00:28:06,413 --> 00:28:07,173 Speaker 15: my mortgage. 607 00:28:08,333 --> 00:28:11,773 Speaker 2: I think though, that we want people that have been successful, 608 00:28:11,813 --> 00:28:14,973 Speaker 2: at least a certain percentage of those in government to 609 00:28:15,053 --> 00:28:18,413 Speaker 2: have been successful in other ways in life and showing competency. 610 00:28:20,293 --> 00:28:20,813 Speaker 14: Yeah, but. 611 00:28:22,493 --> 00:28:27,573 Speaker 15: Here's Chris Fluxen, the Prime Minister, a very wealthy man 612 00:28:29,093 --> 00:28:32,173 Speaker 15: who is behind in the polls, and here's a lot 613 00:28:32,253 --> 00:28:34,853 Speaker 15: of people struggling to pay their mortgage. 614 00:28:35,213 --> 00:28:36,893 Speaker 3: Do you feel that? Do you feel that, Dan? 615 00:28:36,973 --> 00:28:39,893 Speaker 2: Do you feel that because he has managed to sell 616 00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:41,893 Speaker 2: some houses a profit and done quite well in his 617 00:28:42,053 --> 00:28:46,173 Speaker 2: career and been CEO of some big companies, do you 618 00:28:46,413 --> 00:28:50,693 Speaker 2: find that Do you think that makes you have a 619 00:28:50,773 --> 00:28:51,693 Speaker 2: lesser opinion of him? 620 00:28:53,213 --> 00:28:57,013 Speaker 15: It doesn't make me have a lesser opinion, but it 621 00:28:57,253 --> 00:29:01,493 Speaker 15: sort of does. It makes me feel that he isn't 622 00:29:02,573 --> 00:29:08,213 Speaker 15: the right person to relate to people who are on struggle. 623 00:29:07,853 --> 00:29:12,293 Speaker 2: Streak, okay or thank you for your thoughts, Dan, so 624 00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:14,733 Speaker 2: I guess stand saying that because he's been successful, some 625 00:29:14,813 --> 00:29:17,493 Speaker 2: people that aren't doing very well can't relate to him 626 00:29:17,853 --> 00:29:20,133 Speaker 2: that didn't seem to be a problem for John Kay, 627 00:29:20,213 --> 00:29:23,693 Speaker 2: and John Key was so so much richer than Chris 628 00:29:23,773 --> 00:29:24,293 Speaker 2: Luxing us. 629 00:29:24,493 --> 00:29:27,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was so much wealth. You absolutely, I mean, 630 00:29:27,813 --> 00:29:30,493 Speaker 4: I wonder and it's not quite Dan's point, but people 631 00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:33,533 Speaker 4: have been struggling across the board for some time, right, 632 00:29:33,613 --> 00:29:35,853 Speaker 4: cost of living, it has just felt harder. And that's 633 00:29:35,893 --> 00:29:39,333 Speaker 4: the same across most of the western world, right. It 634 00:29:39,693 --> 00:29:41,893 Speaker 4: has been tough for the last three or four years. 635 00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:44,773 Speaker 4: So Christopher Luxen has been on a hiding to nothing 636 00:29:44,853 --> 00:29:47,013 Speaker 4: to try and as he would say, turn the ship 637 00:29:47,093 --> 00:29:49,653 Speaker 4: around or what was it, get the barnacles off the boat. 638 00:29:50,453 --> 00:29:53,813 Speaker 4: So they would be hoping that at the end of 639 00:29:53,893 --> 00:29:56,653 Speaker 4: this year there is some turnaround in those figures of 640 00:29:56,693 --> 00:29:59,533 Speaker 4: business confidence that we're all getting a little bit more 641 00:29:59,573 --> 00:30:02,013 Speaker 4: money in our pocket. And as Dan said, our mortgage 642 00:30:02,053 --> 00:30:04,173 Speaker 4: rates go down. So I suppose that's a bit of 643 00:30:04,213 --> 00:30:05,933 Speaker 4: a wait and see, but they will certainly be hoping 644 00:30:06,013 --> 00:30:06,133 Speaker 4: for that. 645 00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:08,853 Speaker 2: Here's a text on I two nine two. Don'tknock as Luxon. 646 00:30:09,093 --> 00:30:11,013 Speaker 2: He's a capable man who needs our support at this 647 00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:13,213 Speaker 2: point to continue his good work. As long as he's 648 00:30:13,293 --> 00:30:16,133 Speaker 2: doing the job well, we need to stop wanting the 649 00:30:16,173 --> 00:30:20,893 Speaker 2: perfect pr person, Heather. Yeah, I mean that's the strange 650 00:30:20,933 --> 00:30:24,133 Speaker 2: thing about politics, though, isn't it is there is a 651 00:30:24,253 --> 00:30:27,253 Speaker 2: lot of charisma needed to sell. If you've got a 652 00:30:27,293 --> 00:30:29,293 Speaker 2: lot of chrisma, you can sell near anything. If you've 653 00:30:29,293 --> 00:30:31,893 Speaker 2: got hardly any charisma, he struggled to sell anything. 654 00:30:32,053 --> 00:30:34,653 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty 655 00:30:34,813 --> 00:30:36,733 Speaker 4: is the number to call love to hear from you 656 00:30:36,893 --> 00:30:38,893 Speaker 4: on this. What if anything do National need to do 657 00:30:39,213 --> 00:30:41,453 Speaker 4: to start turning around these poll numbers? Or if you 658 00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:43,453 Speaker 4: want to have a chat and abuse the polls themselves, 659 00:30:43,493 --> 00:30:45,453 Speaker 4: you're more than welcome. Nine to two. Nine to two 660 00:30:45,533 --> 00:30:47,573 Speaker 4: is the text number. It is seventeen to two. 661 00:30:49,053 --> 00:30:52,533 Speaker 1: Mattie Tayler Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on 662 00:30:52,853 --> 00:30:56,813 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention 663 00:30:56,933 --> 00:30:58,773 Speaker 1: to detail and a commitment to comfort. 664 00:30:58,933 --> 00:31:02,693 Speaker 4: News Talk said, be good afternoon. It is fourteen to two. 665 00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:05,533 Speaker 4: On the back of another bad poll for the coalition 666 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:08,133 Speaker 4: government and the National Party. We've asked the question, what 667 00:31:08,373 --> 00:31:10,933 Speaker 4: if anything do National need to do to start turning 668 00:31:10,973 --> 00:31:11,733 Speaker 4: those numbers around? 669 00:31:12,093 --> 00:31:14,253 Speaker 3: And do we care about a pole? Eighteen months out? 670 00:31:14,613 --> 00:31:16,893 Speaker 2: Did Luxeon need to tell everyone about a success, he 671 00:31:16,973 --> 00:31:19,093 Speaker 2: could have been more humble like most people are and 672 00:31:19,453 --> 00:31:21,373 Speaker 2: reached the people. I think it has been pretty humble. 673 00:31:21,373 --> 00:31:24,493 Speaker 2: I don't think he's really showed off about his success. 674 00:31:24,533 --> 00:31:26,893 Speaker 2: There was that I'm sorted, but that was actually been 675 00:31:26,973 --> 00:31:29,613 Speaker 2: misquoted and moved out of how he actually meant it. 676 00:31:29,733 --> 00:31:31,933 Speaker 2: He was saying, look, I admit that, because it'll be 677 00:31:31,973 --> 00:31:33,053 Speaker 2: ridiculous for him to say he's not. 678 00:31:33,253 --> 00:31:33,533 Speaker 3: Okay. 679 00:31:33,773 --> 00:31:36,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think one of the reasons why Luxeon 680 00:31:36,533 --> 00:31:38,653 Speaker 2: came in, one of the key reasons was his success 681 00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,373 Speaker 2: and that playbox seemed to work pretty well with John 682 00:31:41,413 --> 00:31:44,253 Speaker 2: Key for National But then people have somehow flipped it 683 00:31:44,293 --> 00:31:47,453 Speaker 2: around and now if you're really successful, that is considered 684 00:31:47,493 --> 00:31:49,253 Speaker 2: a sort of a black mark against you. 685 00:31:49,413 --> 00:31:51,293 Speaker 4: Yeah, and just quickly on that quote, the way that 686 00:31:51,413 --> 00:31:52,853 Speaker 4: I saw it and the way that I think it 687 00:31:52,973 --> 00:31:55,253 Speaker 4: was intended writer is yeah, I've done well in life, 688 00:31:55,373 --> 00:31:58,813 Speaker 4: but I want everybody to do as well as I've done. 689 00:31:58,933 --> 00:32:00,373 Speaker 4: That was what I got from it, and it kind 690 00:32:00,413 --> 00:32:02,413 Speaker 4: of got twisted around that I'm sorted and bugger the 691 00:32:02,453 --> 00:32:04,973 Speaker 4: rest of you. That's certainly not how it was intended. 692 00:32:05,253 --> 00:32:07,173 Speaker 2: So this SYSA says, you guys are just drama the 693 00:32:07,253 --> 00:32:11,053 Speaker 2: pole quoting owned the poll you're quoting polled only one 694 00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:12,493 Speaker 2: thousand people. That's from Adrian. 695 00:32:12,573 --> 00:32:14,733 Speaker 3: Well, we're asking that question, actually, Adrian, aren't we You're 696 00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:19,253 Speaker 3: asking is it just drama and and an ability for 697 00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:25,133 Speaker 3: people to get clicks and for viewers and listeners poles? 698 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:27,653 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Adrine, clearly you think this poll is a 699 00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:28,933 Speaker 4: load of rubbish. The fair enough too. 700 00:32:29,893 --> 00:32:31,813 Speaker 3: You have the numbers as fifteen hundred people, wasn't it. 701 00:32:31,893 --> 00:32:32,053 Speaker 17: Yeah. 702 00:32:32,093 --> 00:32:34,773 Speaker 4: So the methodology here is, and i'll just read this 703 00:32:34,893 --> 00:32:37,893 Speaker 4: out verb betim. The sample population is adults age eighteen 704 00:32:37,893 --> 00:32:40,133 Speaker 4: plus who live in New Zealand and eligible and likely 705 00:32:40,213 --> 00:32:43,053 Speaker 4: to vote, who are contactable by a landline or mobile 706 00:32:43,093 --> 00:32:45,973 Speaker 4: phone or online panel. One thousand respondents agreed to participate, 707 00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:48,133 Speaker 4: eight hundred by phone, two hundred by online panel, a 708 00:32:48,253 --> 00:32:51,133 Speaker 4: random selection of fifteen thousand New Zealand phone numbers landlines 709 00:32:51,133 --> 00:32:53,653 Speaker 4: and mobiles, and a random selection of the target population 710 00:32:54,013 --> 00:32:57,973 Speaker 4: from up to three global online panels. And then it 711 00:32:58,053 --> 00:33:00,973 Speaker 4: goes on to say, I mean it's pretty crazy methodology. 712 00:33:01,093 --> 00:33:02,933 Speaker 4: If the call is to a landline, the person who 713 00:33:03,013 --> 00:33:05,013 Speaker 4: is home and next to the birthday is asked to 714 00:33:05,253 --> 00:33:11,213 Speaker 4: take part. There you go, that's it in a nutshell, Kram. 715 00:33:10,893 --> 00:33:12,933 Speaker 3: How are you good? 716 00:33:13,013 --> 00:33:13,173 Speaker 6: Good? 717 00:33:13,253 --> 00:33:13,533 Speaker 10: Thank you? 718 00:33:14,653 --> 00:33:17,573 Speaker 11: So, yeah, it's interesting. So I've watched a lot of 719 00:33:18,093 --> 00:33:23,253 Speaker 11: politics around the world, you know, I've protected protected to Trump. 720 00:33:23,533 --> 00:33:27,533 Speaker 11: You know, obviously Trump's gotten twice. That never surprised me 721 00:33:27,573 --> 00:33:30,613 Speaker 11: even the first time. So anyway, coming back to New Zealand, Yeah, 722 00:33:30,653 --> 00:33:33,693 Speaker 11: I don't think it's a good idea to change prime 723 00:33:33,773 --> 00:33:38,733 Speaker 11: ministers halfway through. I'm not a fan of Luxem and 724 00:33:39,013 --> 00:33:41,533 Speaker 11: I think Luxon will be gone. But I think they 725 00:33:41,613 --> 00:33:46,213 Speaker 11: will have to wait until sometime next year and choose 726 00:33:46,293 --> 00:33:52,213 Speaker 11: somebody like Erica Stanford, you know. So there are options 727 00:33:52,293 --> 00:33:55,013 Speaker 11: out there that they might have to wait until next 728 00:33:55,093 --> 00:33:59,453 Speaker 11: year to see what happens with the economy and that 729 00:33:59,653 --> 00:34:00,933 Speaker 11: changes anything at all. 730 00:34:03,773 --> 00:34:08,652 Speaker 3: So okay, so so what so how long would you 731 00:34:08,692 --> 00:34:09,093 Speaker 3: wait then? 732 00:34:11,133 --> 00:34:14,093 Speaker 11: Well, I mean I think the rule is normally three months. 733 00:34:14,213 --> 00:34:18,013 Speaker 11: You know, just this what happened with labor, you know 734 00:34:18,133 --> 00:34:21,613 Speaker 11: before justin Dadun was chosen, and you know, you see 735 00:34:21,613 --> 00:34:25,013 Speaker 11: what's happened in America when you know Joe Biden and 736 00:34:25,133 --> 00:34:27,453 Speaker 11: Kamala Harris. So we need to kind of look at 737 00:34:27,493 --> 00:34:30,853 Speaker 11: what happened, you know, in other countries as well, because. 738 00:34:30,613 --> 00:34:30,853 Speaker 14: We do. 739 00:34:32,613 --> 00:34:33,653 Speaker 5: Whether we like it or not. 740 00:34:34,053 --> 00:34:37,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the Joe Biden swapping out for 741 00:34:38,133 --> 00:34:41,573 Speaker 2: Carmelin didn't go so well they did it, Yeah exactly. 742 00:34:42,213 --> 00:34:45,973 Speaker 11: I mean I don't I don't think it's actually fair 743 00:34:46,373 --> 00:34:50,053 Speaker 11: on the you know, voting population to just go halfway 744 00:34:50,493 --> 00:34:52,413 Speaker 11: through and just go, oh, well, we're just going to 745 00:34:52,533 --> 00:34:55,253 Speaker 11: change it to Simeon Brown or Grins Fresher or whoever. 746 00:34:55,773 --> 00:34:58,253 Speaker 11: I don't think that will go down well either, because, 747 00:34:58,733 --> 00:35:00,693 Speaker 11: you know, unless they're put in somebody like you to 748 00:35:00,853 --> 00:35:04,773 Speaker 11: Colins for now, if they really need to do a 749 00:35:04,893 --> 00:35:09,773 Speaker 11: leadership change, because Colins would go really well with Trump 750 00:35:10,333 --> 00:35:13,173 Speaker 11: because we need a strong leader in New Zealand of 751 00:35:13,253 --> 00:35:16,893 Speaker 11: the moment, you know, with what was happening, you know, 752 00:35:16,973 --> 00:35:21,133 Speaker 11: Cook Islands or whatever, and all the geopolitical reasons as well. 753 00:35:21,413 --> 00:35:23,813 Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, we actually need her yet. 754 00:35:23,973 --> 00:35:25,813 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's a fair point that you don't want 755 00:35:25,853 --> 00:35:29,093 Speaker 4: to panic and go too early. Nationals made that mistake 756 00:35:29,133 --> 00:35:31,893 Speaker 4: in the past and the fairly recent past, you know, 757 00:35:31,973 --> 00:35:34,733 Speaker 4: when they turfed out Simon Bridges and got Todd Muller 758 00:35:34,813 --> 00:35:36,853 Speaker 4: in there, and clearly we know how that worked out, 759 00:35:36,893 --> 00:35:38,772 Speaker 4: and Judith had to step in to try and save 760 00:35:38,853 --> 00:35:41,493 Speaker 4: as much as she could before the election, and so 761 00:35:41,613 --> 00:35:44,653 Speaker 4: that didn't work out too well. Panicking too early and kareem, 762 00:35:44,733 --> 00:35:47,093 Speaker 4: are you know if things start to turn around quite 763 00:35:47,133 --> 00:35:49,773 Speaker 4: dramatically by the end of this year economically, that those 764 00:35:49,853 --> 00:35:52,773 Speaker 4: mortgage rates go down, that there's more business confidence, I 765 00:35:52,853 --> 00:35:55,693 Speaker 4: would argue that the poll numbers would be vastly different. 766 00:35:55,733 --> 00:35:59,013 Speaker 4: That if everybody's fairly more hopeful, feeling more rich, feeling 767 00:35:59,053 --> 00:36:00,973 Speaker 4: like the country's on track, then you start to see 768 00:36:00,973 --> 00:36:01,933 Speaker 4: those numbers turn around. 769 00:36:03,093 --> 00:36:07,133 Speaker 11: Yes, exactly. It's nothing to do with Luxeon. It's it's 770 00:36:07,333 --> 00:36:09,813 Speaker 11: obviously the current government of the day. And as the 771 00:36:09,853 --> 00:36:12,893 Speaker 11: economy improves and the confidence is starting to come back 772 00:36:13,413 --> 00:36:16,893 Speaker 11: already we can see the green shoot in the economy. 773 00:36:17,053 --> 00:36:19,493 Speaker 11: It's starting to happen. So we just have to wait 774 00:36:19,613 --> 00:36:22,773 Speaker 11: for a while and see what happens. And also no 775 00:36:22,853 --> 00:36:26,172 Speaker 11: one's talking about labor. I mean, I will be very 776 00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:30,093 Speaker 11: surprised if Chris Hopkins was still the leader three months 777 00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:32,973 Speaker 11: before the election. I don't think that's going to happen 778 00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:36,293 Speaker 11: either either way. Whatever happens in the polls, I'm pretty 779 00:36:36,333 --> 00:36:40,093 Speaker 11: sure Chrisiptins will be replaced. He has to be replaced. 780 00:36:40,173 --> 00:36:43,853 Speaker 11: Not that I don't like Chrisipians. But you know, it 781 00:36:44,053 --> 00:36:46,252 Speaker 11: just doesn't work like that. You know, if Labor really 782 00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:49,053 Speaker 11: was fierce to win the election, they will have to 783 00:36:49,133 --> 00:36:54,293 Speaker 11: replace with a you know, another leader, a fresh faith. 784 00:36:54,733 --> 00:36:59,692 Speaker 11: And also I'm not sure about Labor how much they 785 00:36:59,813 --> 00:37:03,293 Speaker 11: want to actually you know, go with the Chapati, Mary, 786 00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:07,293 Speaker 11: because that might really affect their polls of what they 787 00:37:07,413 --> 00:37:10,693 Speaker 11: do with that. So that's the Labor. 788 00:37:10,893 --> 00:37:12,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for your call. 789 00:37:12,493 --> 00:37:14,613 Speaker 4: Yep, great staff. Right coming up next, we're gonna have 790 00:37:14,613 --> 00:37:18,133 Speaker 4: a chant to our senior political correspondent, Bewry Soper. It 791 00:37:18,333 --> 00:37:22,213 Speaker 4: is eight minutes to two, Mattieth. 792 00:37:22,013 --> 00:37:24,853 Speaker 1: Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred and 793 00:37:24,893 --> 00:37:27,893 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo 794 00:37:28,253 --> 00:37:31,973 Speaker 1: xc N eighty Tick every box, a seamless experience awaits 795 00:37:32,093 --> 00:37:32,653 Speaker 1: news dogs. 796 00:37:32,853 --> 00:37:35,893 Speaker 4: B It is five to two to chat further about 797 00:37:35,933 --> 00:37:39,333 Speaker 4: this is Senior political Correspondent Barry Soper and studio. Get 798 00:37:39,413 --> 00:37:41,213 Speaker 4: a Barry good, It's nice. 799 00:37:41,053 --> 00:37:41,692 Speaker 5: To be here again. 800 00:37:42,013 --> 00:37:43,333 Speaker 3: Great to see you too, Barry. 801 00:37:43,493 --> 00:37:48,013 Speaker 2: So is it realistic that Luxeon will be replaced anytime soon? 802 00:37:48,173 --> 00:37:51,453 Speaker 2: And should national be worried about a poll eighteen months 803 00:37:51,493 --> 00:37:52,373 Speaker 2: out for the election. 804 00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:56,093 Speaker 17: Yeah, the two quite distinct questions. I think there will 805 00:37:56,173 --> 00:37:58,613 Speaker 17: be worried in the National ranks, There's no doubt about this. 806 00:37:58,733 --> 00:38:01,573 Speaker 17: And don't forget this. Polster is their own pols to 807 00:38:01,693 --> 00:38:04,693 Speaker 17: the Courier pole, so it is their own. It's not 808 00:38:04,813 --> 00:38:07,373 Speaker 17: the tallboot pole, which is the Labor Party posters. So 809 00:38:07,893 --> 00:38:12,333 Speaker 17: it's put Labor marginally ahead of the National Party, even 810 00:38:12,373 --> 00:38:15,613 Speaker 17: though both main parties have gone up in their rankings. 811 00:38:15,693 --> 00:38:19,413 Speaker 17: But when it comes down to Chris Luxon, you know, look, 812 00:38:19,613 --> 00:38:22,613 Speaker 17: he's had one hell of a time since he took 813 00:38:22,693 --> 00:38:25,813 Speaker 17: over his primers. There was no it was a baptism afar, 814 00:38:25,973 --> 00:38:28,853 Speaker 17: there was no honeymoon. The gallery has been on his 815 00:38:29,053 --> 00:38:31,253 Speaker 17: case ever since he came in, and I think the 816 00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:32,373 Speaker 17: public has as. 817 00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:36,293 Speaker 4: Well, because they believe that after these. 818 00:38:36,253 --> 00:38:40,293 Speaker 17: Dreadful three years that have just been through the COVID 819 00:38:40,413 --> 00:38:43,933 Speaker 17: years and post COVID, that things should have been put 820 00:38:44,093 --> 00:38:47,573 Speaker 17: right almost immediately, and that's the expectation of the voter. 821 00:38:47,773 --> 00:38:49,253 Speaker 4: But they could never be. 822 00:38:49,613 --> 00:38:52,732 Speaker 17: So you've got a government here that really hasn't made 823 00:38:52,853 --> 00:38:56,692 Speaker 17: significant gains and that's what the public wants. So they're 824 00:38:56,773 --> 00:39:00,293 Speaker 17: disappointed and if an election was held now, Fortunately there 825 00:39:00,293 --> 00:39:03,973 Speaker 17: won't be one. The center left would have the numbers. 826 00:39:04,093 --> 00:39:06,853 Speaker 17: The center right, even with New Zealand. 827 00:39:06,573 --> 00:39:07,413 Speaker 3: First, wouldn't. 828 00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:08,732 Speaker 5: So not good. 829 00:39:09,053 --> 00:39:09,733 Speaker 4: Look at the polls. 830 00:39:09,893 --> 00:39:12,453 Speaker 17: Sorry sorry, I'll just rave on about this last bit. 831 00:39:12,853 --> 00:39:15,933 Speaker 17: But if you look at the average preferred prime minister 832 00:39:16,573 --> 00:39:18,653 Speaker 17: through the ages, and I thought, you know, it's interesting 833 00:39:18,733 --> 00:39:22,253 Speaker 17: to see just how prime ministers did poll. Look at 834 00:39:22,333 --> 00:39:26,933 Speaker 17: Helen Clark, Yeah, she used in opposition pol appallingly she 835 00:39:27,333 --> 00:39:31,133 Speaker 17: had an average of sixty four percent in the nine years. 836 00:39:31,173 --> 00:39:34,172 Speaker 3: She was far out that said something anything for those 837 00:39:34,253 --> 00:39:34,933 Speaker 3: kind of numbers now. 838 00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:38,533 Speaker 4: Absolutely what Yeah, fascinating stuff is always Barry. Good to 839 00:39:38,533 --> 00:39:39,773 Speaker 4: see you again. We'll catch up soon. 840 00:39:39,853 --> 00:39:41,253 Speaker 17: Sorry, didn't get a word in edgeways. 841 00:39:41,333 --> 00:39:41,493 Speaker 7: Chair. 842 00:39:41,813 --> 00:39:45,013 Speaker 4: That was fantastic. That has senior political correspondent Barry Soper, 843 00:39:45,333 --> 00:39:47,013 Speaker 4: New Sport and Weather on its way. 844 00:39:49,253 --> 00:39:50,933 Speaker 5: Talking with you all afternoon. 845 00:39:51,213 --> 00:39:54,493 Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoon with the Volvo 846 00:39:54,853 --> 00:39:56,613 Speaker 1: XC nineteen News Talk ZB. 847 00:39:57,973 --> 00:40:01,533 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, welcome back into the program. Seven past two, 848 00:40:01,853 --> 00:40:04,253 Speaker 4: and this is going to be a great discussion. When 849 00:40:04,413 --> 00:40:08,093 Speaker 4: is it time to stop financially supporting your children? So 850 00:40:08,373 --> 00:40:10,573 Speaker 4: the article say, as it begins, with some extra cash 851 00:40:10,653 --> 00:40:13,973 Speaker 4: to buy clothes and pay phone bills. Then it's spotting 852 00:40:14,053 --> 00:40:16,733 Speaker 4: university courses and books. But at what age should the 853 00:40:16,853 --> 00:40:20,373 Speaker 4: growing children start chipping in? The things start to change 854 00:40:20,693 --> 00:40:24,013 Speaker 4: when they get a job. So more adults children than 855 00:40:24,093 --> 00:40:26,093 Speaker 4: ever are living with their parents in New Zealand. We 856 00:40:26,213 --> 00:40:29,413 Speaker 4: know that stats in ZET Household Survey shows this type 857 00:40:29,413 --> 00:40:32,413 Speaker 4: of household has grown by more than one hundred thousand 858 00:40:32,933 --> 00:40:36,373 Speaker 4: since two thousand and four, the fastest growth of any household. 859 00:40:36,973 --> 00:40:39,653 Speaker 4: So we do know that children are not flying the 860 00:40:39,733 --> 00:40:41,573 Speaker 4: coop at the same age that they used to. 861 00:40:41,853 --> 00:40:43,853 Speaker 2: Well it's hard to isn't it much harder to fly 862 00:40:43,973 --> 00:40:46,973 Speaker 2: the coop? But helping out children when does it become 863 00:40:47,133 --> 00:40:50,013 Speaker 2: not helping out children because you're enabling their life and 864 00:40:50,053 --> 00:40:52,813 Speaker 2: they never learn the lessons and maybe they don't appreciate 865 00:40:53,733 --> 00:40:56,613 Speaker 2: what they've they don't appreciate what they've got if it's 866 00:40:56,693 --> 00:40:58,533 Speaker 2: just given to them. You know, like when you actually 867 00:40:58,533 --> 00:41:00,653 Speaker 2: get a job and you go out there and you 868 00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:02,933 Speaker 2: maybe go out and buy a beer and you think 869 00:41:03,173 --> 00:41:07,773 Speaker 2: that fifteen dollars bear that is half my hourly wage, 870 00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:11,213 Speaker 2: you know, nearly all my early ways after tax, and 871 00:41:11,453 --> 00:41:13,293 Speaker 2: that is a way to see the world that you 872 00:41:13,413 --> 00:41:15,813 Speaker 2: might not see if you're you know, like I mean. 873 00:41:15,853 --> 00:41:18,693 Speaker 2: The class example is trust kid. Trust fund kids. You know, 874 00:41:18,853 --> 00:41:20,773 Speaker 2: there's no one more miserable than a trust fund kid 875 00:41:21,053 --> 00:41:23,773 Speaker 2: because they are basically sorted for life. And your job 876 00:41:23,893 --> 00:41:26,973 Speaker 2: really as a parent is, from I believe, and someone 877 00:41:26,973 --> 00:41:28,693 Speaker 2: could tell me if they disagree on our wee e 878 00:41:28,693 --> 00:41:31,373 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine to nine two, 879 00:41:32,413 --> 00:41:34,853 Speaker 2: the job of a parent is to spend eighteen years 880 00:41:34,893 --> 00:41:37,493 Speaker 2: making them competent, and then you send them off into 881 00:41:37,493 --> 00:41:40,293 Speaker 2: the world as someone that has everything and all the 882 00:41:40,373 --> 00:41:44,732 Speaker 2: capabilities and all the learnings and the all the well, 883 00:41:44,773 --> 00:41:46,293 Speaker 2: you know they're going to get some things wrong, but 884 00:41:46,813 --> 00:41:48,973 Speaker 2: all the tools they need to survive as an adult 885 00:41:48,973 --> 00:41:49,373 Speaker 2: in the world. 886 00:41:49,893 --> 00:41:51,133 Speaker 3: So that's zero to eighteen. 887 00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:53,773 Speaker 2: Having said that, as a as a father of an 888 00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:57,813 Speaker 2: eighteen year old, I'd find it quite hard to just 889 00:41:58,053 --> 00:42:00,173 Speaker 2: cut him off at eighteen. I used to say to 890 00:42:00,293 --> 00:42:02,453 Speaker 2: him for the longest time that as soon as you 891 00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:04,213 Speaker 2: have to listen to me, you have to do what 892 00:42:04,333 --> 00:42:07,252 Speaker 2: I say until you're eighteen, and then you're an adult 893 00:42:07,293 --> 00:42:08,093 Speaker 2: and then you can do what you want. 894 00:42:08,453 --> 00:42:10,573 Speaker 4: And that's good I feel about that. 895 00:42:10,693 --> 00:42:11,252 Speaker 3: It really worked. 896 00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:13,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, he listened to you and now he's eighteen. Yeah, 897 00:42:13,573 --> 00:42:14,252 Speaker 4: now he doesn't listen. 898 00:42:15,253 --> 00:42:18,693 Speaker 2: He still does that strangely good boy, but you know, 899 00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:22,172 Speaker 2: and just recently there's been you know, I'm still paying 900 00:42:22,213 --> 00:42:24,253 Speaker 2: for a lot of stuff, but a big part of 901 00:42:24,333 --> 00:42:29,093 Speaker 2: me thinks that I shouldn't, that a parent shouldn't pay 902 00:42:29,173 --> 00:42:31,133 Speaker 2: for their tertiary education. That that's when you have the 903 00:42:31,173 --> 00:42:33,253 Speaker 2: ability to pay for it now, either by getting a 904 00:42:33,293 --> 00:42:34,973 Speaker 2: student loan or whatever it is, that you should take 905 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:38,893 Speaker 2: on that responsibility of your life from eighteen and you know, 906 00:42:39,013 --> 00:42:40,813 Speaker 2: make your way in the world, and that there's some 907 00:42:41,093 --> 00:42:44,053 Speaker 2: honor in that, and you know, and you can feel 908 00:42:44,093 --> 00:42:46,413 Speaker 2: proud of yourself as opposed to constantly going back to 909 00:42:46,413 --> 00:42:47,453 Speaker 2: your parents and putting your hand out. 910 00:42:47,493 --> 00:42:49,493 Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to have a bird of struggles street 911 00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:53,053 Speaker 4: by the time you had eighteen nineteen maybe twenty. For me, 912 00:42:53,213 --> 00:42:55,293 Speaker 4: it was when I had university and I had to 913 00:42:55,373 --> 00:42:58,293 Speaker 4: get my study link and the student loan, and there 914 00:42:58,333 --> 00:43:00,333 Speaker 4: were some weeks there. I mean, we as a flat 915 00:43:00,373 --> 00:43:03,453 Speaker 4: went on food together, but sometimes as an eighteen year 916 00:43:03,453 --> 00:43:05,013 Speaker 4: old we blew it all on beer. So we didn't 917 00:43:05,013 --> 00:43:06,773 Speaker 4: know what the hell to do to try and get through. 918 00:43:06,853 --> 00:43:09,652 Speaker 4: But you figured it out to figure out what you'd 919 00:43:09,733 --> 00:43:12,093 Speaker 4: rustle up. We had a lot of eggs back in 920 00:43:12,213 --> 00:43:15,053 Speaker 4: the university day. Eggs would cheap back then, Not so 921 00:43:15,213 --> 00:43:16,093 Speaker 4: much the case anymore. 922 00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:18,093 Speaker 2: I had a job right through university, so I had 923 00:43:18,133 --> 00:43:20,333 Speaker 2: more money than a lot of my flatmates. 924 00:43:20,453 --> 00:43:23,093 Speaker 3: They were just at university. I kept working, but they 925 00:43:23,133 --> 00:43:25,853 Speaker 3: were a lot of them were eating pasta and salt, 926 00:43:26,533 --> 00:43:27,613 Speaker 3: but drinking a lot of beers. 927 00:43:27,933 --> 00:43:32,613 Speaker 2: So it was just sacrifices two minute noodle sandwiches. Yeah, 928 00:43:32,773 --> 00:43:35,693 Speaker 2: but but yeah, when do you cut them off? Because, 929 00:43:36,533 --> 00:43:38,893 Speaker 2: as I say, you feel like you're doing the right 930 00:43:38,933 --> 00:43:42,653 Speaker 2: thing by supporting them, and you feel like and some parents, 931 00:43:42,733 --> 00:43:45,373 Speaker 2: like wealthy parents, think well I need to help my 932 00:43:45,533 --> 00:43:49,413 Speaker 2: kids by house. But do you or do you just 933 00:43:49,573 --> 00:43:54,053 Speaker 2: owe your kids to feed them and roove them, roove them, 934 00:43:54,213 --> 00:43:57,613 Speaker 2: house them, put a roof over their head and get 935 00:43:57,653 --> 00:44:02,573 Speaker 2: them to eighteen healthy and then really unleash them onto 936 00:44:02,613 --> 00:44:02,893 Speaker 2: the world. 937 00:44:03,053 --> 00:44:05,493 Speaker 4: Yeah it's a hard one, isn't it. I Mean, my 938 00:44:05,933 --> 00:44:07,933 Speaker 4: parents didn't help me on the day to day and 939 00:44:07,973 --> 00:44:10,692 Speaker 4: the week weak. But I'll preface that by saying when 940 00:44:10,733 --> 00:44:13,813 Speaker 4: I did run into some financial difficulty, I had no 941 00:44:14,093 --> 00:44:17,213 Speaker 4: option but to give mamacor and say I've stuffed up. 942 00:44:17,493 --> 00:44:19,533 Speaker 4: I've got an overdraft. I don't know how to pay 943 00:44:19,573 --> 00:44:22,053 Speaker 4: it back. The interest is creeping up on me. I 944 00:44:22,173 --> 00:44:23,973 Speaker 4: need a help, I need a hand. And at that 945 00:44:24,053 --> 00:44:25,933 Speaker 4: point she said, yeah, I'll help you out with this 946 00:44:26,453 --> 00:44:29,293 Speaker 4: from your team. Yeh, never do it again. So I 947 00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:32,053 Speaker 4: think it's those moments that if your child does screw 948 00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:34,533 Speaker 4: up and run into financial difficulty, how can you not 949 00:44:34,653 --> 00:44:36,732 Speaker 4: help them? Surely if they come to you and say 950 00:44:37,133 --> 00:44:39,053 Speaker 4: I've got myself into a bit of dit here, I 951 00:44:39,173 --> 00:44:41,692 Speaker 4: can't get out of it. Can you help me? Then 952 00:44:41,733 --> 00:44:44,693 Speaker 4: you'd say, wow, there have to be some Yeah, I 953 00:44:44,733 --> 00:44:45,493 Speaker 4: mean that's the thing. 954 00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,333 Speaker 2: Of course you would if you could, because you're a 955 00:44:47,453 --> 00:44:50,093 Speaker 2: parent and you love them dearly and all you want 956 00:44:50,573 --> 00:44:52,973 Speaker 2: is to stop worrying about them and make sure they're okay. 957 00:44:53,293 --> 00:44:55,493 Speaker 2: And this certainly wouldn't allow a situation to happen when 958 00:44:55,493 --> 00:44:57,813 Speaker 2: they ended up on the street. But there is some 959 00:44:58,013 --> 00:45:00,653 Speaker 2: balance there where you're just making sure that if you 960 00:45:00,653 --> 00:45:02,413 Speaker 2: always make sure they've got a safety net and they've 961 00:45:02,413 --> 00:45:04,893 Speaker 2: always got somewhere to go and there's no risk in 962 00:45:04,973 --> 00:45:08,652 Speaker 2: their life. And then in a way that you can't 963 00:45:08,653 --> 00:45:12,413 Speaker 2: feel proud of yourself for your achievements and you can't 964 00:45:12,533 --> 00:45:15,333 Speaker 2: feel that visceral connection to it between the money you 965 00:45:15,453 --> 00:45:17,573 Speaker 2: earn and what you can do, which I think is 966 00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:19,613 Speaker 2: the most character building thing you can have. 967 00:45:19,853 --> 00:45:21,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is going to be good. Oh eight one 968 00:45:21,533 --> 00:45:24,773 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty ten eighty. At what time do you 969 00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:27,933 Speaker 4: stop financially supporting your children love to hear your stories. 970 00:45:27,973 --> 00:45:30,973 Speaker 4: If they're still living at home and perhaps in their 971 00:45:31,093 --> 00:45:33,413 Speaker 4: mid twenties, how hard is it for them out there? 972 00:45:33,453 --> 00:45:36,053 Speaker 4: Are you trying to help them get into house? Let's 973 00:45:36,053 --> 00:45:38,213 Speaker 4: get into it. Nine two nine two is the text number. 974 00:45:38,493 --> 00:45:42,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, I would like to share I feel very, 975 00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:45,213 Speaker 2: very guilty about how I left home when I was 976 00:45:45,253 --> 00:45:47,893 Speaker 2: a kid, when I was a teenager, how I left 977 00:45:47,933 --> 00:45:50,613 Speaker 2: home was so ungrateful, all right, which is the other 978 00:45:50,693 --> 00:45:52,293 Speaker 2: side of it, which I learnt that there are some 979 00:45:52,453 --> 00:45:54,773 Speaker 2: kids that just want to leave and look after themselves completely, 980 00:45:54,853 --> 00:45:57,093 Speaker 2: And there's a flip side to it. 981 00:45:57,173 --> 00:45:58,533 Speaker 3: This is almost as bad, all right. 982 00:45:58,613 --> 00:46:03,172 Speaker 4: That's coming next. That is thirteen past two, your new. 983 00:46:03,173 --> 00:46:06,853 Speaker 1: Home of afternoon Talk, Matt and Taylor Afternoon with the 984 00:46:06,973 --> 00:46:10,533 Speaker 1: Volvo XC Night turn every journey into something special. 985 00:46:10,653 --> 00:46:13,652 Speaker 5: Call oh eight hundred eighty eighty News Talks. They'd be. 986 00:46:15,613 --> 00:46:18,013 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, quarter past two. At what age should you 987 00:46:18,053 --> 00:46:21,813 Speaker 4: stop financially supporting your children? Great article in the papers 988 00:46:21,933 --> 00:46:23,413 Speaker 4: this morning, but love to hear from you on Oh 989 00:46:23,413 --> 00:46:28,692 Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Hey Lucy, oh hi, Hi, 990 00:46:29,373 --> 00:46:31,172 Speaker 4: very good. Great to check with you. So what's your 991 00:46:31,253 --> 00:46:33,813 Speaker 4: take on when to stop financially supporting children. 992 00:46:35,853 --> 00:46:36,493 Speaker 12: Well, I've got. 993 00:46:36,413 --> 00:46:41,253 Speaker 18: Four children and three in the twenties now, and they 994 00:46:41,653 --> 00:46:45,013 Speaker 18: have got through. I was a solo mum most of 995 00:46:45,053 --> 00:46:47,613 Speaker 18: the time and there wasn't a lot of option of 996 00:46:47,733 --> 00:46:51,853 Speaker 18: me supporting them fully. They got part time jobs from 997 00:46:51,893 --> 00:46:56,212 Speaker 18: about sixteen around school, which gave them a really good 998 00:46:56,293 --> 00:46:59,933 Speaker 18: sense of value of what money is, because that's when 999 00:46:59,973 --> 00:47:03,733 Speaker 18: they wanted to start going out, partying, drinking, buying a car. 1000 00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:04,333 Speaker 9: All that stuff. 1001 00:47:05,373 --> 00:47:07,653 Speaker 18: So they did buy cars. I would help them with that, 1002 00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:10,013 Speaker 18: but they had pay for their petrol and I'd go 1003 00:47:10,173 --> 00:47:14,212 Speaker 18: halves with them in the maintenance. One of them wrote 1004 00:47:14,253 --> 00:47:16,253 Speaker 18: a car off, but he didn't bother replacing that one 1005 00:47:16,253 --> 00:47:21,493 Speaker 18: again because they realized that was really extensive. One of them. 1006 00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:22,373 Speaker 6: I was there. 1007 00:47:22,373 --> 00:47:24,413 Speaker 18: They all ended up wanting to go to university, which 1008 00:47:24,533 --> 00:47:28,853 Speaker 18: was amazing, but there was no way I could front 1009 00:47:28,933 --> 00:47:30,453 Speaker 18: all of that so obviously they were going to have 1010 00:47:30,533 --> 00:47:34,172 Speaker 18: to take student loans and they had to be well 1011 00:47:34,213 --> 00:47:37,533 Speaker 18: responsible for that, and so I knew that if that's 1012 00:47:37,573 --> 00:47:40,133 Speaker 18: what they were going to do, they had to learn 1013 00:47:40,213 --> 00:47:43,813 Speaker 18: a good way of budgeting from budgeting that student loan 1014 00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:49,212 Speaker 18: from word dot. And they all had part time jobs. 1015 00:47:49,213 --> 00:47:51,692 Speaker 18: I'm aware that it's getting harder and harder for kids 1016 00:47:52,693 --> 00:47:54,853 Speaker 18: get part time these days that you need, but they 1017 00:47:54,933 --> 00:47:57,253 Speaker 18: are around. I just don't think people try hard enough. 1018 00:47:58,573 --> 00:48:01,453 Speaker 18: I think anyway, that's my opinion on the job thing. 1019 00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:03,533 Speaker 18: I do think there are jobs around. You have to 1020 00:48:04,293 --> 00:48:07,692 Speaker 18: push a pedal a bit harder, that's all. They all 1021 00:48:07,773 --> 00:48:11,253 Speaker 18: had parts of jobs, and they I taught them how 1022 00:48:11,373 --> 00:48:14,813 Speaker 18: to set up. I basically told them how I budgeted, 1023 00:48:14,853 --> 00:48:18,333 Speaker 18: and that was that I had a house account, a 1024 00:48:18,413 --> 00:48:23,053 Speaker 18: spending account, a food account, a health account, a traveling account, 1025 00:48:23,253 --> 00:48:26,973 Speaker 18: and a you know, our account. I have a lot 1026 00:48:26,973 --> 00:48:31,733 Speaker 18: of accounts, but that worked for me. And they they 1027 00:48:31,933 --> 00:48:33,933 Speaker 18: still do it, all three of them they are, and 1028 00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:36,093 Speaker 18: two of them are in London now and ones in Melbourne. 1029 00:48:36,493 --> 00:48:38,373 Speaker 18: They all still They're so funny. 1030 00:48:38,653 --> 00:48:38,813 Speaker 10: You know. 1031 00:48:38,973 --> 00:48:41,652 Speaker 18: My younger said to me, well, Mom, I've saved enough 1032 00:48:41,693 --> 00:48:44,013 Speaker 18: in my travel account. Go to London for three weeks 1033 00:48:44,053 --> 00:48:47,933 Speaker 18: from last summer, and she's only one year into working 1034 00:48:48,013 --> 00:48:50,613 Speaker 18: in a full time job. She's almost paid off a 1035 00:48:50,693 --> 00:48:53,133 Speaker 18: student loan. The other two, by the age of twenty four, 1036 00:48:53,253 --> 00:48:56,413 Speaker 18: had paid off their student loans. I just think it's 1037 00:48:56,853 --> 00:48:58,613 Speaker 18: it's about training from the parents. 1038 00:48:58,653 --> 00:48:59,933 Speaker 19: I'm afraid it is. 1039 00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:02,732 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a really good point that you're saying 1040 00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:05,533 Speaker 2: about the accounts though, you know, like I've just recently 1041 00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:08,813 Speaker 2: read that very popular book James clear as The Tom Cabits, 1042 00:49:08,813 --> 00:49:10,133 Speaker 2: and one of the things he says in there that 1043 00:49:10,173 --> 00:49:12,093 Speaker 2: I think is brilliant is that you automate as much 1044 00:49:12,093 --> 00:49:14,133 Speaker 2: stuff as you can. So if you set up those 1045 00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:16,213 Speaker 2: accounts and that money is put into those accounts, so 1046 00:49:16,493 --> 00:49:19,293 Speaker 2: you automate good habits. Yeah, so you can't spend it 1047 00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:21,533 Speaker 2: because you've made that one decision once, so you don't 1048 00:49:21,533 --> 00:49:25,133 Speaker 2: have to you don't have to keep making that decision. 1049 00:49:25,173 --> 00:49:27,213 Speaker 2: You've made that good decision by setting up those accounts 1050 00:49:27,253 --> 00:49:30,212 Speaker 2: and setting up the you know that the transfer into 1051 00:49:30,213 --> 00:49:33,613 Speaker 2: those accounts automatically, and then that that good habit just 1052 00:49:33,693 --> 00:49:34,813 Speaker 2: repeats itself. 1053 00:49:34,933 --> 00:49:38,613 Speaker 4: Yeah. But is clearly you've done, Lucy, is that you've 1054 00:49:38,693 --> 00:49:41,013 Speaker 4: taught your kids very well on how to manage life 1055 00:49:41,053 --> 00:49:42,333 Speaker 4: and money and all the rest of it. But if 1056 00:49:42,373 --> 00:49:45,133 Speaker 4: they got into a little bit of debt, and they 1057 00:49:45,173 --> 00:49:47,293 Speaker 4: got into some trouble and it came to you and said, Mum, 1058 00:49:47,493 --> 00:49:49,373 Speaker 4: I've got into debt. I don't know how i can 1059 00:49:49,413 --> 00:49:53,093 Speaker 4: pay it back. The interest is, you know, ramping up. 1060 00:49:53,413 --> 00:49:55,893 Speaker 4: Would you bail them out at that point? Would you say, 1061 00:49:55,933 --> 00:49:56,853 Speaker 4: you've got to figure this out. 1062 00:49:59,373 --> 00:50:03,093 Speaker 18: I've done it both ways. Actually, one of them has 1063 00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:08,772 Speaker 18: come to me with that, and I did did bail 1064 00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:11,573 Speaker 18: them out a little bit. It was a few grands, 1065 00:50:11,613 --> 00:50:13,253 Speaker 18: but I did charge them a bit of interest, but 1066 00:50:13,293 --> 00:50:16,733 Speaker 18: it was less than the bank. But it's too easy 1067 00:50:16,813 --> 00:50:19,253 Speaker 18: for them. A bank of mom and dad is sometimes 1068 00:50:19,333 --> 00:50:19,933 Speaker 18: not a good idea. 1069 00:50:20,213 --> 00:50:23,213 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if that's a lesson in itself, and clearly 1070 00:50:23,373 --> 00:50:25,333 Speaker 4: you've you've done, you know, all the right things for 1071 00:50:25,413 --> 00:50:27,772 Speaker 4: your children. But if that's the lesson in itself, and say, 1072 00:50:28,493 --> 00:50:30,213 Speaker 4: this is what happens when you take on debt and 1073 00:50:30,293 --> 00:50:32,652 Speaker 4: you can't pay it back, treated as a lesson learned. 1074 00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:34,173 Speaker 4: But this will be the last time I bage you 1075 00:50:34,253 --> 00:50:35,053 Speaker 4: out for something like that. 1076 00:50:36,093 --> 00:50:38,053 Speaker 18: Yeah, it's really I've got friends that have bailed and 1077 00:50:38,093 --> 00:50:41,453 Speaker 18: bailed and bailed and not doing well. I mean, look 1078 00:50:41,493 --> 00:50:46,853 Speaker 18: at it's look at it. It's like training a training 1079 00:50:46,893 --> 00:50:49,613 Speaker 18: a puppy, Isn't it exactly the same. You've just got 1080 00:50:49,693 --> 00:50:53,253 Speaker 18: to be quite strict and consistent and stick to the 1081 00:50:53,333 --> 00:50:55,853 Speaker 18: game plan and they come up. Look, I mean, I'm 1082 00:50:55,933 --> 00:50:57,893 Speaker 18: very proud of my kids. They've all got great jobs, 1083 00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,573 Speaker 18: and they've all basically paid off their student lines and 1084 00:51:01,573 --> 00:51:03,613 Speaker 18: I can get on them. And they were in their 1085 00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:06,533 Speaker 18: mid twenty so they you know, that's this generation. 1086 00:51:06,253 --> 00:51:06,533 Speaker 19: Isn't it. 1087 00:51:08,093 --> 00:51:10,413 Speaker 3: That's that sounds like you though, Lucy. 1088 00:51:10,493 --> 00:51:12,213 Speaker 2: It sounds like you've set them up because you know, 1089 00:51:12,733 --> 00:51:15,653 Speaker 2: isn't good parenting creating competent adults? 1090 00:51:15,733 --> 00:51:15,893 Speaker 5: Really? 1091 00:51:15,973 --> 00:51:19,013 Speaker 2: Isn't that the whole thing, the whole zero to eighteen? 1092 00:51:19,173 --> 00:51:20,853 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of heartache and ups and downs 1093 00:51:20,893 --> 00:51:24,573 Speaker 2: and fights, but the general, the general mission statement is 1094 00:51:24,653 --> 00:51:28,013 Speaker 2: to make competent adults. So out the other end of 1095 00:51:28,053 --> 00:51:30,613 Speaker 2: the you know, the sausage machine comes a competent adult. 1096 00:51:30,613 --> 00:51:32,573 Speaker 2: And it sounds like that's that's what you've done. 1097 00:51:33,453 --> 00:51:35,333 Speaker 18: I mean, you know, we had a pretty tough start 1098 00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:37,853 Speaker 18: to our life with the kids and things with for 1099 00:51:37,933 --> 00:51:40,212 Speaker 18: various reasons which I won't go into on the phone, 1100 00:51:40,213 --> 00:51:44,373 Speaker 18: but you know, they knew that things were. It was 1101 00:51:44,413 --> 00:51:46,573 Speaker 18: pretty tough, and so they didn't get handled on the 1102 00:51:46,613 --> 00:51:49,732 Speaker 18: planet like a lot of their friends. And I think 1103 00:51:49,813 --> 00:51:52,533 Speaker 18: it's been I think it's been. 1104 00:51:52,413 --> 00:51:52,853 Speaker 7: A good thing. 1105 00:51:52,973 --> 00:51:53,172 Speaker 14: Really. 1106 00:51:53,493 --> 00:51:56,933 Speaker 18: I think the tougher it is, the more you're the 1107 00:51:57,613 --> 00:51:58,773 Speaker 18: better lessons you learn. 1108 00:51:58,973 --> 00:52:00,253 Speaker 10: Yeah unfortunately, Yeah. 1109 00:52:00,133 --> 00:52:01,893 Speaker 3: Well thank you so much for all, Lucy. I wonder 1110 00:52:01,933 --> 00:52:04,693 Speaker 3: about student loans is an interesting one, right, so you 1111 00:52:04,773 --> 00:52:06,573 Speaker 3: know your kid can get a student loan and they 1112 00:52:06,653 --> 00:52:09,973 Speaker 3: can pay for the university, or if you're lucky enough 1113 00:52:10,013 --> 00:52:11,693 Speaker 3: to have enough money, you can pay for the university. 1114 00:52:11,813 --> 00:52:14,533 Speaker 2: I wonder what is more of a motivator to do better. 1115 00:52:15,093 --> 00:52:17,093 Speaker 2: Is it a motivation that your parents have paid for it, 1116 00:52:17,173 --> 00:52:19,973 Speaker 2: so then you can't let them down because that money's 1117 00:52:20,293 --> 00:52:23,973 Speaker 2: come from something, you know, like someone that you love, yeah, 1118 00:52:24,213 --> 00:52:26,653 Speaker 2: and you know you owe them something for that. Or 1119 00:52:26,813 --> 00:52:29,813 Speaker 2: is it that you get a student loan and therefore 1120 00:52:29,893 --> 00:52:31,293 Speaker 2: you're going to have to pay it back so that 1121 00:52:31,453 --> 00:52:34,293 Speaker 2: is more meaningful for you. I actually think that when 1122 00:52:34,293 --> 00:52:36,413 Speaker 2: you're eighteen, you've got no concept of what a student 1123 00:52:36,493 --> 00:52:38,893 Speaker 2: loan is. No, it's just some money that's come from 1124 00:52:38,933 --> 00:52:42,573 Speaker 2: the sky and some future person, some future old person 1125 00:52:42,973 --> 00:52:44,933 Speaker 2: is going to pay it for you being yourself. 1126 00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:47,293 Speaker 3: That's what that's it as one hundred percent. 1127 00:52:47,333 --> 00:52:49,212 Speaker 4: When I took on that student loan and I think 1128 00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:52,173 Speaker 4: it was seven K a year plus the living allowance, 1129 00:52:52,333 --> 00:52:54,653 Speaker 4: and I didn't see that as tens of thousands of dollars. 1130 00:52:54,773 --> 00:52:56,773 Speaker 4: That was just oh, your money. I saw it down 1131 00:52:56,853 --> 00:52:59,013 Speaker 4: the track until I think I got into my third 1132 00:52:59,093 --> 00:53:00,933 Speaker 4: year of university and saw the total. One thought, oh 1133 00:53:00,933 --> 00:53:03,773 Speaker 4: oh oh. But'd love to hear from you on one 1134 00:53:03,853 --> 00:53:06,493 Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is the 1135 00:53:06,493 --> 00:53:07,013 Speaker 4: text number? 1136 00:53:07,173 --> 00:53:09,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the Is the best time to cut your 1137 00:53:10,053 --> 00:53:12,253 Speaker 2: kids off? Is it right on eighteen? Or do you 1138 00:53:12,373 --> 00:53:16,453 Speaker 2: just slowly let it drift out and keep bailing them 1139 00:53:16,493 --> 00:53:18,533 Speaker 2: out with all their mistakes so they never learn anything. 1140 00:53:18,653 --> 00:53:20,853 Speaker 3: That's a leading there's a leading question there from me. 1141 00:53:20,933 --> 00:53:23,213 Speaker 4: It's a good leading question. Two passed two. 1142 00:53:27,493 --> 00:53:30,893 Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and 1143 00:53:30,933 --> 00:53:33,093 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB. 1144 00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:34,692 Speaker 4: Twenty five past two. 1145 00:53:34,893 --> 00:53:37,213 Speaker 2: We're talking about when it's time to stop financially supporting 1146 00:53:37,373 --> 00:53:39,613 Speaker 2: your children. I've got a bit of a shameful story 1147 00:53:39,653 --> 00:53:41,733 Speaker 2: from my life that I feel very guilty about because 1148 00:53:41,733 --> 00:53:44,973 Speaker 2: I'm very very grateful my parents bringing me up. But 1149 00:53:45,493 --> 00:53:48,053 Speaker 2: I was, you know, I was just about turn eighteen 1150 00:53:48,253 --> 00:53:50,573 Speaker 2: and I was packing all my stuff into the boot 1151 00:53:50,613 --> 00:53:51,013 Speaker 2: of my car. 1152 00:53:51,613 --> 00:53:53,853 Speaker 3: And then my dad came over and he goes, oh, 1153 00:53:54,133 --> 00:53:56,013 Speaker 3: what's going on here? And he goes, oh, I'm moving out, 1154 00:53:56,573 --> 00:53:58,692 Speaker 3: And he goes, you're moving out? I said, yeah, yeah, 1155 00:53:58,693 --> 00:54:00,812 Speaker 3: I've got a I was moving into a bank vault 1156 00:54:00,853 --> 00:54:03,053 Speaker 3: in the city. Like I'd found this little place I 1157 00:54:03,053 --> 00:54:05,573 Speaker 3: could sleep in in the corner of this building on 1158 00:54:05,693 --> 00:54:07,413 Speaker 3: Vogel Street, and yeah. 1159 00:54:07,613 --> 00:54:07,893 Speaker 4: Very cool. 1160 00:54:08,333 --> 00:54:09,573 Speaker 3: It's just no, it's horrible. It's freezing. 1161 00:54:09,733 --> 00:54:12,292 Speaker 2: But I was moving out, and you know, I didn't 1162 00:54:12,293 --> 00:54:14,133 Speaker 2: think about that at the time, just loaded the stuff up, 1163 00:54:14,333 --> 00:54:16,373 Speaker 2: and I was thinking, why was he hastling me here? 1164 00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:17,893 Speaker 3: Like was he asking me what I'm doing? 1165 00:54:17,933 --> 00:54:19,933 Speaker 2: And then it didn't for years and years, and then 1166 00:54:19,973 --> 00:54:22,533 Speaker 2: it struck me he'd sacrificed so much to put a 1167 00:54:22,613 --> 00:54:25,213 Speaker 2: roof over my head. The car I was driving was 1168 00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:27,973 Speaker 2: one he'd bought me. You know, it wasn't much, it 1169 00:54:28,053 --> 00:54:30,293 Speaker 2: was very call Actually was a Mark two courteena. 1170 00:54:29,973 --> 00:54:31,413 Speaker 4: Beautiful, very cool calvolic. 1171 00:54:31,813 --> 00:54:32,853 Speaker 3: Not complaining about that, but. 1172 00:54:34,373 --> 00:54:36,373 Speaker 2: All that effort had gone into my life and all 1173 00:54:36,413 --> 00:54:39,493 Speaker 2: that heartache and worry and turning up to sports and 1174 00:54:40,653 --> 00:54:43,652 Speaker 2: you know, sitting down with reports and then I just going. 1175 00:54:45,973 --> 00:54:46,493 Speaker 4: See you dad. 1176 00:54:46,613 --> 00:54:48,613 Speaker 2: So that's where going. That's the other side of it. 1177 00:54:49,373 --> 00:54:51,653 Speaker 2: So you know, you can say, when do you financially 1178 00:54:51,773 --> 00:54:54,813 Speaker 2: support your cut off your children? What about the children 1179 00:54:54,893 --> 00:54:55,573 Speaker 2: that just worn out? 1180 00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:55,893 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1181 00:54:55,933 --> 00:54:58,013 Speaker 2: I mean in my case, we lived on a farm 1182 00:54:58,093 --> 00:55:00,133 Speaker 2: out of town, so it was just miles away. Mainly, 1183 00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:02,493 Speaker 2: I just wanted to be able to be near my friends. 1184 00:55:02,533 --> 00:55:04,373 Speaker 2: That's really why I want to move out, you know. 1185 00:55:04,573 --> 00:55:06,293 Speaker 4: And fair enough to when you're eighteen. But did you 1186 00:55:06,413 --> 00:55:08,173 Speaker 4: ever a chat with your dad and say, hey, this 1187 00:55:08,253 --> 00:55:09,613 Speaker 4: is coming up, I'm about to move out. 1188 00:55:10,373 --> 00:55:11,613 Speaker 3: No, no, ten at all. 1189 00:55:11,653 --> 00:55:12,252 Speaker 4: He has glue. 1190 00:55:12,373 --> 00:55:13,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, he just came to see what are you doing? 1191 00:55:13,773 --> 00:55:15,893 Speaker 2: I don't even think ye, And then but I did 1192 00:55:15,933 --> 00:55:18,053 Speaker 2: apologize to him, like only recently. 1193 00:55:18,933 --> 00:55:21,373 Speaker 4: The brains of eighteen year olds though, right, yeah. 1194 00:55:21,373 --> 00:55:23,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're not because I just as my kids 1195 00:55:23,693 --> 00:55:25,453 Speaker 2: got older, I was thinking, oh my god, what if 1196 00:55:25,493 --> 00:55:27,133 Speaker 2: my kids did to me what I did to them? 1197 00:55:27,173 --> 00:55:28,373 Speaker 3: Have they just went rams? 1198 00:55:28,413 --> 00:55:28,653 Speaker 12: Are you? 1199 00:55:29,013 --> 00:55:29,212 Speaker 16: Yeah? 1200 00:55:29,533 --> 00:55:30,293 Speaker 3: Jeez? Terrible? 1201 00:55:31,013 --> 00:55:32,813 Speaker 4: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighties ennoble to call 1202 00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:33,493 Speaker 4: get a nick. 1203 00:55:35,333 --> 00:55:36,453 Speaker 8: Good afternoon, gentlemen. 1204 00:55:36,573 --> 00:55:39,212 Speaker 4: How are you very good? What do you reckon about 1205 00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:40,973 Speaker 4: the banker mom and dad? 1206 00:55:42,413 --> 00:55:46,453 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think the time to stop, well, 1207 00:55:46,613 --> 00:55:50,493 Speaker 8: you'd never stop supporting them, but effectively cut over the 1208 00:55:51,293 --> 00:55:56,173 Speaker 8: ongoing contributions is once I start working. But I concur 1209 00:55:56,333 --> 00:56:01,293 Speaker 8: with your your earlier caller. I remember, we've got two 1210 00:56:01,413 --> 00:56:07,453 Speaker 8: girls now mid twenties and early twenties who have both 1211 00:56:07,533 --> 00:56:12,533 Speaker 8: taken very different paths. But when they were around fifteen 1212 00:56:12,653 --> 00:56:16,293 Speaker 8: years old, the school they went to, the secondary school 1213 00:56:16,333 --> 00:56:20,533 Speaker 8: they went to at the time had no school uniforms, 1214 00:56:20,653 --> 00:56:23,413 Speaker 8: so you know, there was very much a case of 1215 00:56:23,533 --> 00:56:26,053 Speaker 8: those and the designer clothes and those not and the 1216 00:56:26,613 --> 00:56:30,573 Speaker 8: and the pressure pressure that was on. And it was 1217 00:56:30,613 --> 00:56:36,693 Speaker 8: also about the same time when schools started or created 1218 00:56:37,213 --> 00:56:39,973 Speaker 8: bring your own device. And I'll never forget that because 1219 00:56:40,373 --> 00:56:43,333 Speaker 8: I was like, okay, boxing, they say we'll go and 1220 00:56:43,413 --> 00:56:46,973 Speaker 8: buy a HP or no, six hundred bucks or whatever. 1221 00:56:47,093 --> 00:56:50,373 Speaker 8: So our kids would have laptops for school and they 1222 00:56:50,413 --> 00:56:52,453 Speaker 8: were like, oh no, Dad, no, we don't want that. 1223 00:56:52,613 --> 00:56:56,293 Speaker 8: We want a Mac Pro here. He was probably twenty 1224 00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:59,733 Speaker 8: four hundred or something at the time. So we strongly 1225 00:56:59,933 --> 00:57:02,732 Speaker 8: encouraged them to go and get a part by job, 1226 00:57:02,853 --> 00:57:06,333 Speaker 8: and they both worked in a supermarket, inning good money. 1227 00:57:06,413 --> 00:57:10,013 Speaker 8: We'll go way out to superses and balance all of that, 1228 00:57:11,253 --> 00:57:15,093 Speaker 8: and then proceeded to so they could they could top 1229 00:57:15,213 --> 00:57:16,813 Speaker 8: up and you know, if they wanted a Mac Pro, 1230 00:57:16,973 --> 00:57:19,973 Speaker 8: they could pay the two grand difference, which they did, 1231 00:57:21,493 --> 00:57:25,893 Speaker 8: and they could afford to go and get latest iPhones 1232 00:57:26,053 --> 00:57:28,373 Speaker 8: and we would pay for you. 1233 00:57:28,413 --> 00:57:32,693 Speaker 3: Know, well, this was with us when they had those jobs, 1234 00:57:32,733 --> 00:57:36,773 Speaker 3: when they were still at school. Now, yep, yeah, that's 1235 00:57:36,773 --> 00:57:37,093 Speaker 3: good and. 1236 00:57:38,253 --> 00:57:42,933 Speaker 8: Still budgeting skills like your your previous caller had said. 1237 00:57:43,653 --> 00:57:48,453 Speaker 8: And yeah, it's worked to a point. Our oldest daughters 1238 00:57:48,533 --> 00:57:52,013 Speaker 8: just come back from two years snowboarding in Canada with 1239 00:57:52,253 --> 00:57:57,093 Speaker 8: her her friends. She she's very good on budgeting. She 1240 00:57:57,213 --> 00:58:00,413 Speaker 8: has money for travel and money and separate accounts and 1241 00:58:00,893 --> 00:58:01,973 Speaker 8: it's very disciplined. 1242 00:58:02,053 --> 00:58:03,853 Speaker 3: Where did you did you have a word to her 1243 00:58:03,893 --> 00:58:06,653 Speaker 3: about the budgeting? Did you did you talk through that? 1244 00:58:07,053 --> 00:58:10,173 Speaker 8: She hated me for it, said, probably six months. I said, 1245 00:58:10,173 --> 00:58:12,493 Speaker 8: I hated you for that, Dad, But you know, I 1246 00:58:12,573 --> 00:58:14,693 Speaker 8: look at where I am now, and I've got money 1247 00:58:14,733 --> 00:58:17,013 Speaker 8: in the bank, and I've paid off my car and 1248 00:58:17,053 --> 00:58:21,653 Speaker 8: I'm traveling overseas and she's got always encouraging quite as 1249 00:58:21,773 --> 00:58:25,893 Speaker 8: much as they can and Key week Savor where it's out. 1250 00:58:26,053 --> 00:58:29,533 Speaker 8: Our youngest daughter went through UNI and then that are 1251 00:58:29,653 --> 00:58:33,653 Speaker 8: Masters and she still supported herself through that and is 1252 00:58:33,693 --> 00:58:37,133 Speaker 8: paying a student loan. But our eldest daughter's just back 1253 00:58:37,213 --> 00:58:40,813 Speaker 8: for this for six months and she's like, Okay, what 1254 00:58:40,973 --> 00:58:43,853 Speaker 8: can I pay? And we said, look, just just cover 1255 00:58:43,973 --> 00:58:46,093 Speaker 8: our costs, just food, and I think it's one hundred 1256 00:58:46,093 --> 00:58:48,453 Speaker 8: and twenty bucks a week or something. We don't want 1257 00:58:48,453 --> 00:58:51,093 Speaker 8: to make any money out of her, but she's she's 1258 00:58:51,213 --> 00:58:55,653 Speaker 8: disciplined in that she's used to being in a flat 1259 00:58:55,693 --> 00:58:59,773 Speaker 8: and contributing and there's no reason why that should stop otherwise. 1260 00:58:59,973 --> 00:59:03,213 Speaker 3: Well, have you ever had to bail any of your 1261 00:59:03,253 --> 00:59:03,653 Speaker 3: kids out? 1262 00:59:05,093 --> 00:59:11,453 Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Youngest one we have she was 1263 00:59:12,333 --> 00:59:17,573 Speaker 8: in a flat for a year and the relationship broke 1264 00:59:17,693 --> 00:59:22,053 Speaker 8: up and unfortunately her and her partner at the time 1265 00:59:23,133 --> 00:59:28,013 Speaker 8: had just signed on for another year and he moved out, 1266 00:59:28,173 --> 00:59:32,253 Speaker 8: so there was break fees and it was a couple 1267 00:59:32,253 --> 00:59:34,813 Speaker 8: of thousand. So yes, yeah, I mean you have to. 1268 00:59:35,093 --> 00:59:36,533 Speaker 3: Did you make her pay that back. 1269 00:59:39,093 --> 00:59:39,373 Speaker 10: Nice? 1270 00:59:40,533 --> 00:59:41,013 Speaker 4: Fair enough? 1271 00:59:41,373 --> 00:59:43,133 Speaker 3: Do you think, because you know, this is kind of 1272 00:59:43,253 --> 00:59:44,333 Speaker 3: what we're talking about here. 1273 00:59:44,613 --> 00:59:46,213 Speaker 2: Do you think it would have been better for her 1274 00:59:46,373 --> 00:59:48,533 Speaker 2: if you had in terms of learning a less in 1275 00:59:49,133 --> 00:59:53,493 Speaker 2: life the hard reality of financial situations if you hadn't paid. 1276 00:59:54,933 --> 00:59:57,253 Speaker 8: Absolutely, But the you know, you've got to look at 1277 00:59:57,293 --> 01:00:00,733 Speaker 8: the mental health at the time as it was pushing 1278 01:00:00,853 --> 01:00:03,173 Speaker 8: a lesson, if that's going to tip somebody. 1279 01:00:02,933 --> 01:00:05,693 Speaker 3: Over, and also your mental health as well, because cutting 1280 01:00:05,733 --> 01:00:07,453 Speaker 3: your kit off in that kind of situation when you 1281 01:00:07,493 --> 01:00:10,373 Speaker 3: could pay for them going full tough love that that 1282 01:00:10,653 --> 01:00:13,213 Speaker 3: that's tough for a parent to do because you are 1283 01:00:13,933 --> 01:00:16,653 Speaker 3: you have created a life around looking after them and 1284 01:00:16,813 --> 01:00:21,013 Speaker 3: providing for them and making a safe and beautiful world 1285 01:00:21,093 --> 01:00:23,453 Speaker 3: for them to then just go, Okay, you've messed up 1286 01:00:23,493 --> 01:00:25,373 Speaker 3: on your flat. I'm not helping you out. You're going 1287 01:00:25,453 --> 01:00:26,813 Speaker 3: to have to just do what you need to do 1288 01:00:26,973 --> 01:00:28,573 Speaker 3: to sort that out. That that's tough. That would be 1289 01:00:28,653 --> 01:00:29,253 Speaker 3: tough for a parent. 1290 01:00:31,373 --> 01:00:36,093 Speaker 8: It's probably it's not worth the grief, to be honest. Yeah, 1291 01:00:36,213 --> 01:00:39,533 Speaker 8: and I think we you know the money that it costs. 1292 01:00:39,573 --> 01:00:41,893 Speaker 8: We ended up putting on credit card and we just 1293 01:00:41,973 --> 01:00:46,373 Speaker 8: paid it off. But yeah, look, I think once once 1294 01:00:46,693 --> 01:00:50,773 Speaker 8: the kids are earning money, if they if they need 1295 01:00:50,853 --> 01:00:53,493 Speaker 8: a bit of a bit of a hand. But I 1296 01:00:53,533 --> 01:00:57,933 Speaker 8: remember years agoing on. I'm over sixty now, but I 1297 01:00:58,013 --> 01:01:01,333 Speaker 8: remember my father loaned me some money a long time 1298 01:01:01,413 --> 01:01:03,933 Speaker 8: ago when I was very young, and he set up 1299 01:01:03,973 --> 01:01:07,853 Speaker 8: a whole sort of spreadsheet and said, okay, TA want 1300 01:01:07,893 --> 01:01:10,293 Speaker 8: you to pay one hundred a month or whatever it 1301 01:01:10,533 --> 01:01:13,293 Speaker 8: was in those days, and didn't charge me interest, but 1302 01:01:13,413 --> 01:01:15,813 Speaker 8: he made damn sure I paid it. So I think 1303 01:01:15,933 --> 01:01:20,173 Speaker 8: that was instilled in me and encouraged me to try 1304 01:01:20,173 --> 01:01:21,453 Speaker 8: and do the same with our kids. 1305 01:01:22,013 --> 01:01:23,773 Speaker 3: I think so much for call next sounds like you're 1306 01:01:23,813 --> 01:01:24,373 Speaker 3: a great dad. 1307 01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:26,893 Speaker 4: Yeah, great call one hundred and eighty ten eighty is 1308 01:01:26,973 --> 01:01:29,253 Speaker 4: the number. Call love to hear from you. When is 1309 01:01:29,293 --> 01:01:32,013 Speaker 4: it time to stop financially supporting your children? Love to 1310 01:01:32,093 --> 01:01:34,893 Speaker 4: hear your stories if you've still got children living at home, 1311 01:01:35,693 --> 01:01:38,893 Speaker 4: and clearly it is a harder time than it has 1312 01:01:39,013 --> 01:01:40,933 Speaker 4: been for a long time for kids in their twenties 1313 01:01:40,933 --> 01:01:43,133 Speaker 4: if they want to try and get on the property ladder. 1314 01:01:43,293 --> 01:01:45,413 Speaker 4: The job market's pretty tight at the moment. So I 1315 01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:46,973 Speaker 4: love to hear from you on eight hundred. 1316 01:01:46,733 --> 01:01:49,333 Speaker 3: And eighty How much so you're charging? You charging them? 1317 01:01:49,413 --> 01:01:53,093 Speaker 2: And we've got a text here, who's got an impressively 1318 01:01:53,373 --> 01:01:56,253 Speaker 2: old child living off a mother very good. 1319 01:01:56,293 --> 01:01:57,573 Speaker 4: It is twenty seven to three. 1320 01:02:00,453 --> 01:02:03,693 Speaker 5: You talk sad be headlines with blue bubble taxis. 1321 01:02:03,773 --> 01:02:06,813 Speaker 14: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The taxpayer is 1322 01:02:06,853 --> 01:02:11,053 Speaker 14: a union funded Maurier poll shows National Act and enzet 1323 01:02:11,173 --> 01:02:14,733 Speaker 14: First have lost the balance of power fifty eight percent 1324 01:02:14,813 --> 01:02:18,413 Speaker 14: to the coalition against a left block totaling sixty two. 1325 01:02:19,213 --> 01:02:21,133 Speaker 14: Nationals vote rose to thirty three. 1326 01:02:21,053 --> 01:02:21,613 Speaker 3: And a half. 1327 01:02:22,093 --> 01:02:25,653 Speaker 14: BART supports dropped for its partners, and Labour has risen 1328 01:02:25,693 --> 01:02:30,053 Speaker 14: to thirty four percent. Incoming Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carne 1329 01:02:30,293 --> 01:02:34,053 Speaker 14: says retaliatory tariffs on the US will stay until the 1330 01:02:34,093 --> 01:02:39,373 Speaker 14: Americans show them respect. Israel's cutting all electricity to Gaza 1331 01:02:39,773 --> 01:02:42,333 Speaker 14: after a week ago stopping all aid to the two 1332 01:02:42,373 --> 01:02:47,133 Speaker 14: point three million people in the Palestinian territory. An Australian 1333 01:02:47,213 --> 01:02:50,933 Speaker 14: teen missing near Brisbane since ex tropical Cyclone Alfred has 1334 01:02:51,053 --> 01:02:54,733 Speaker 14: been found safe and well. The government's topping up its 1335 01:02:54,773 --> 01:02:58,733 Speaker 14: International Visitor Fund, hoping to worm more event organizers here. 1336 01:02:59,253 --> 01:03:02,813 Speaker 14: About three million dollars funding is available to any organization, 1337 01:03:03,213 --> 01:03:09,093 Speaker 14: including universities, to help host an international conference. Public sector 1338 01:03:09,213 --> 01:03:13,413 Speaker 14: leaders being pressured out of their jobs high profile departures 1339 01:03:13,693 --> 01:03:16,853 Speaker 14: raise questions. You can read more at enzid Herald Premium. 1340 01:03:17,373 --> 01:03:19,453 Speaker 14: Back to Matt Eathan Tyler Adams. 1341 01:03:19,333 --> 01:03:21,533 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Ray Lane twenty three to three, 1342 01:03:21,933 --> 01:03:24,573 Speaker 4: and we are asking the question when is at the 1343 01:03:24,693 --> 01:03:27,933 Speaker 4: right time to stop financially supporting your child an article 1344 01:03:28,773 --> 01:03:32,413 Speaker 4: which has an expert, Linda Moore. She's a psychologist and 1345 01:03:32,493 --> 01:03:35,253 Speaker 4: an accountant, and she effectively argued, by the time they 1346 01:03:35,293 --> 01:03:36,813 Speaker 4: get a full time job, cart them off. 1347 01:03:37,893 --> 01:03:38,133 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1348 01:03:40,013 --> 01:03:43,213 Speaker 2: It talks a lot about having conversations with your kids, 1349 01:03:43,333 --> 01:03:46,813 Speaker 2: and there's an example given of a child's like twenty 1350 01:03:46,893 --> 01:03:48,613 Speaker 2: and they've come back from overseas and they say, I'm 1351 01:03:48,653 --> 01:03:49,973 Speaker 2: just going to stay with you for a while and 1352 01:03:50,093 --> 01:03:52,413 Speaker 2: never bring up exactly what they're paying at that point, 1353 01:03:52,493 --> 01:03:55,693 Speaker 2: and then it's seven eight months later, two years later, 1354 01:03:55,733 --> 01:03:58,093 Speaker 2: they're still living there and you've never bought up that 1355 01:03:58,173 --> 01:04:01,573 Speaker 2: they should be putting some money in. But it also 1356 01:04:01,613 --> 01:04:03,213 Speaker 2: talks about the idea of if you've got kids that 1357 01:04:03,213 --> 01:04:04,453 Speaker 2: are stay at home, and a lot of people are 1358 01:04:04,493 --> 01:04:05,893 Speaker 2: because it's harder for them to get out there. So 1359 01:04:05,973 --> 01:04:09,173 Speaker 2: kids are still living in their room and paying something. 1360 01:04:09,573 --> 01:04:12,053 Speaker 2: But also you've got you know, if they're living in 1361 01:04:12,053 --> 01:04:12,893 Speaker 2: a house. They've got us. 1362 01:04:13,013 --> 01:04:15,253 Speaker 3: They've got to help out, you know, they be they've 1363 01:04:15,253 --> 01:04:17,453 Speaker 3: got to be helping in the kitchen. If they're an adult, 1364 01:04:17,693 --> 01:04:19,453 Speaker 3: you know, like just a flat like a flatmate would 1365 01:04:19,493 --> 01:04:21,893 Speaker 3: like a flatmate that doesn't do anything at all, help 1366 01:04:21,933 --> 01:04:24,413 Speaker 3: in the garden. You know, there has to be more. 1367 01:04:24,933 --> 01:04:25,733 Speaker 3: There has to be more to it. 1368 01:04:25,813 --> 01:04:27,453 Speaker 4: I mean, it just makes the argument here and this 1369 01:04:27,533 --> 01:04:29,893 Speaker 4: is spot on. For example, if your adult child is 1370 01:04:29,933 --> 01:04:32,173 Speaker 4: paying less than a third of rent but still going 1371 01:04:32,333 --> 01:04:35,213 Speaker 4: on holidays, you can't afford to take a trip yourself. 1372 01:04:35,453 --> 01:04:37,573 Speaker 4: That's a very fair point that it can't be going 1373 01:04:37,653 --> 01:04:38,453 Speaker 4: on guys holidays. 1374 01:04:39,133 --> 01:04:41,733 Speaker 2: Sat parent there, you're just sitting at home. You're you're 1375 01:04:42,533 --> 01:04:44,653 Speaker 2: you're supporting them, and then you are twenty one year 1376 01:04:44,693 --> 01:04:46,213 Speaker 2: old kids going away on a holiday and you have 1377 01:04:46,293 --> 01:04:47,813 Speaker 2: to cancel yours hard and. 1378 01:04:47,933 --> 01:04:49,453 Speaker 4: Up parent, Thanks for the free rent. 1379 01:04:49,493 --> 01:04:51,173 Speaker 2: I'm off to RaRo the Texas is I have a 1380 01:04:51,253 --> 01:04:54,733 Speaker 2: brother fifty, never worked. Dana's life, lived off the eighty 1381 01:04:54,813 --> 01:04:57,733 Speaker 2: year old mother his entire life. She can never say 1382 01:04:57,813 --> 01:04:59,733 Speaker 2: no and put her foot down. Refuge support from the 1383 01:04:59,773 --> 01:05:01,773 Speaker 2: family to deal with this. He now lives on his 1384 01:05:01,893 --> 01:05:04,453 Speaker 2: own island. Had a million spent on him. Now his 1385 01:05:04,613 --> 01:05:07,013 Speaker 2: kids are doing the same to their grandmother. Say no 1386 01:05:07,573 --> 01:05:10,133 Speaker 2: earlier on or you're paying for life. It's so sad, 1387 01:05:10,213 --> 01:05:12,173 Speaker 2: frustrating to see that's from a loving son. 1388 01:05:12,533 --> 01:05:13,013 Speaker 5: So hang on. 1389 01:05:13,333 --> 01:05:15,533 Speaker 2: So this guy's lump, he's got. He's lived with his 1390 01:05:15,773 --> 01:05:18,173 Speaker 2: mum till she's eighty, and now he's moved his kids 1391 01:05:18,213 --> 01:05:18,733 Speaker 2: in with the mum. 1392 01:05:19,453 --> 01:05:21,333 Speaker 4: That's and what did the mom do for him to 1393 01:05:21,373 --> 01:05:23,733 Speaker 4: have his own island and a million dollar spent on him? 1394 01:05:24,293 --> 01:05:25,973 Speaker 2: We can't he lives on his own I don't think 1395 01:05:25,973 --> 01:05:28,093 Speaker 2: he lives on it. Oh I thought there was a metaphor. 1396 01:05:28,373 --> 01:05:30,333 Speaker 2: Oh maybe it is like I sort of I'm a 1397 01:05:30,453 --> 01:05:32,213 Speaker 2: rock on an island. Like he lives on an island. 1398 01:05:32,373 --> 01:05:35,053 Speaker 4: He's marooned from the family, rather than has his own island. 1399 01:05:35,093 --> 01:05:36,973 Speaker 4: I think you're right. I think that is an analogy 1400 01:05:37,093 --> 01:05:38,173 Speaker 4: rather than an extra island. 1401 01:05:38,213 --> 01:05:40,253 Speaker 2: If he has an island, if he has his own island, 1402 01:05:40,413 --> 01:05:43,973 Speaker 2: well done? Is this Richard Branson's brother. 1403 01:05:45,893 --> 01:05:48,533 Speaker 4: Keep those takes coming through? On nine to nine two? 1404 01:05:49,733 --> 01:05:50,853 Speaker 4: Should we go to the phone? 1405 01:05:51,013 --> 01:05:51,213 Speaker 20: Yeah? 1406 01:05:51,333 --> 01:05:52,893 Speaker 3: Just one more here in the text. We've got so 1407 01:05:52,933 --> 01:05:53,533 Speaker 3: many coming through. 1408 01:05:53,573 --> 01:05:56,773 Speaker 2: I will be eternally grateful for the help financially even 1409 01:05:56,813 --> 01:05:58,453 Speaker 2: when I was working, my mum and dad gave me, 1410 01:05:58,613 --> 01:06:00,493 Speaker 2: especially now they have both gone. 1411 01:06:00,573 --> 01:06:04,133 Speaker 3: Phil. Yeah, I mean, you know, obviously it can work 1412 01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:06,653 Speaker 3: out sometimes, you know, if you're grateful for it. 1413 01:06:06,853 --> 01:06:10,533 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Jane, how are you well? 1414 01:06:10,853 --> 01:06:17,013 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll go from a I'm near retiring. When I 1415 01:06:17,173 --> 01:06:19,293 Speaker 6: came up as a young fellow, my dad used to 1416 01:06:19,413 --> 01:06:23,253 Speaker 6: lend money, but it was always an interest, so it 1417 01:06:23,893 --> 01:06:27,653 Speaker 6: became a business stal. It wasn't a it was a 1418 01:06:27,773 --> 01:06:30,893 Speaker 6: business stal. So of course you had to pay it 1419 01:06:31,013 --> 01:06:32,693 Speaker 6: back because it was with interest. 1420 01:06:35,453 --> 01:06:37,213 Speaker 3: Did he go for a market rate or did he 1421 01:06:38,173 --> 01:06:40,573 Speaker 3: really screw you down? U? 1422 01:06:43,453 --> 01:06:44,733 Speaker 4: It's up there and and. 1423 01:06:46,653 --> 01:06:49,533 Speaker 6: But as I got older, I could always go back 1424 01:06:49,573 --> 01:06:53,053 Speaker 6: to him because I always paid it back. I could 1425 01:06:53,053 --> 01:06:55,373 Speaker 6: always go to him. I could, I could loan up 1426 01:06:55,413 --> 01:06:58,133 Speaker 6: to fifty grand off him, and did you because he 1427 01:06:58,213 --> 01:07:01,013 Speaker 6: knew that I had a history of paying it back. 1428 01:07:02,733 --> 01:07:06,493 Speaker 6: Now I've got my kids and I've helped them out, 1429 01:07:08,333 --> 01:07:13,293 Speaker 6: and my oldest is forty five, and I've then got 1430 01:07:13,453 --> 01:07:14,333 Speaker 6: my neck ones down. 1431 01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:16,893 Speaker 11: They've got kids, but they live at home. 1432 01:07:19,693 --> 01:07:24,053 Speaker 6: But I found the difference, that's my middle son. I 1433 01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:27,853 Speaker 6: find that I will whenever he asks for money, I 1434 01:07:27,973 --> 01:07:30,933 Speaker 6: will give it to him because he helps with building. 1435 01:07:31,253 --> 01:07:35,853 Speaker 6: He does things carpentry and that, which sort of pays 1436 01:07:35,933 --> 01:07:39,133 Speaker 6: it off, and he pays his bills off, and he 1437 01:07:39,253 --> 01:07:43,013 Speaker 6: pays his way. My daughter I don't need to lend 1438 01:07:43,093 --> 01:07:46,573 Speaker 6: any money to because she makes her own. My eldest son, 1439 01:07:47,453 --> 01:07:50,933 Speaker 6: he makes more than all of us. Yet he's continually 1440 01:07:51,613 --> 01:07:56,893 Speaker 6: borrowing money off. If it's trying us, he'll try his sister, 1441 01:07:57,733 --> 01:08:01,853 Speaker 6: but he still owes them. And I often have to 1442 01:08:01,973 --> 01:08:04,853 Speaker 6: say to him when he goes and buys something new, 1443 01:08:05,373 --> 01:08:08,533 Speaker 6: I said, why did you use your sister's money to 1444 01:08:08,573 --> 01:08:10,093 Speaker 6: buy that? Are? 1445 01:08:10,733 --> 01:08:11,293 Speaker 5: How old is he? 1446 01:08:12,373 --> 01:08:16,612 Speaker 3: He's forty forty five, still borroing money for sister that's 1447 01:08:16,653 --> 01:08:16,813 Speaker 3: not on. 1448 01:08:17,173 --> 01:08:21,692 Speaker 6: Yeah, and he'll buy stuff for himself. And as I says, 1449 01:08:21,773 --> 01:08:24,612 Speaker 6: I says, why are you using your sister's money, he says, 1450 01:08:24,652 --> 01:08:27,532 Speaker 6: it's not it's my money. I says, no, you owe 1451 01:08:27,652 --> 01:08:32,492 Speaker 6: her money. Yeah, you're using our money to buy it, 1452 01:08:33,452 --> 01:08:34,772 Speaker 6: and you're not paying her back. 1453 01:08:35,133 --> 01:08:37,012 Speaker 3: Did she put any interest on the money she buried 1454 01:08:37,652 --> 01:08:38,093 Speaker 3: her brother? 1455 01:08:39,253 --> 01:08:43,093 Speaker 6: Well, she's nice, but you've also got the bank of Mum, 1456 01:08:43,492 --> 01:08:47,532 Speaker 6: and you've got the bank of bad. Yeah, Mum will 1457 01:08:47,652 --> 01:08:51,452 Speaker 6: see a little low rates for rent and for board, 1458 01:08:51,812 --> 01:08:52,973 Speaker 6: and I'll ask her. 1459 01:08:53,053 --> 01:08:55,293 Speaker 21: I says, well, how much it's tallium? And she told me, 1460 01:08:55,333 --> 01:08:56,333 Speaker 21: and I go, you're joking. 1461 01:08:59,372 --> 01:09:01,093 Speaker 4: So what are we talking to you? Just just a 1462 01:09:01,173 --> 01:09:04,053 Speaker 4: perceived or something, you know, nothing much, But effectively they're 1463 01:09:04,053 --> 01:09:04,852 Speaker 4: giving him free money. 1464 01:09:06,293 --> 01:09:11,213 Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and that's the thing. And I find anlesss 1465 01:09:11,253 --> 01:09:15,092 Speaker 6: with my middle son. He will do stuff without being asked. 1466 01:09:15,492 --> 01:09:18,532 Speaker 6: He will pay back money, and he will build stuff 1467 01:09:18,853 --> 01:09:20,213 Speaker 6: which would have cost me money. 1468 01:09:20,492 --> 01:09:22,293 Speaker 3: Do you set a formal when when you give him money? 1469 01:09:22,333 --> 01:09:25,253 Speaker 3: Do you set a formal you know, schedule of work 1470 01:09:25,293 --> 01:09:26,652 Speaker 3: that he has to do to pay it back? Or 1471 01:09:26,732 --> 01:09:28,372 Speaker 3: is he just in credit because he does so much, 1472 01:09:30,532 --> 01:09:31,572 Speaker 3: he's in credit and I. 1473 01:09:31,612 --> 01:09:33,532 Speaker 22: Don't need to give him any work. He'll just go 1474 01:09:33,652 --> 01:09:40,013 Speaker 22: and do it without king or or expecting. Yeah, so 1475 01:09:40,772 --> 01:09:43,452 Speaker 22: you know, so he can come up to me and so, Dad, 1476 01:09:43,572 --> 01:09:45,532 Speaker 22: can I have twenty grand? If we got twenty grand, 1477 01:09:45,933 --> 01:09:49,333 Speaker 22: we'll go yes, because we know that it will get returned. 1478 01:09:49,933 --> 01:09:50,133 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1479 01:09:50,213 --> 01:09:52,372 Speaker 2: Well that's that's that's you know, he set himself up 1480 01:09:52,412 --> 01:09:54,933 Speaker 2: in a good way there, you know, prove himself. I 1481 01:09:55,013 --> 01:09:56,852 Speaker 2: wonder what happened if I asked my little sister for 1482 01:09:56,973 --> 01:09:58,772 Speaker 2: some money, to borrow some money she would. 1483 01:09:59,133 --> 01:10:00,452 Speaker 4: My siblings would tell me to bug around. 1484 01:10:00,933 --> 01:10:01,892 Speaker 3: No way they'd give me any money. 1485 01:10:02,013 --> 01:10:04,932 Speaker 4: What is it for new quad by get get out 1486 01:10:04,973 --> 01:10:05,293 Speaker 4: of TI. 1487 01:10:05,253 --> 01:10:07,412 Speaker 3: Because they don't trust me, just because they'll be like, 1488 01:10:07,652 --> 01:10:08,852 Speaker 3: get out your own money. 1489 01:10:08,933 --> 01:10:10,812 Speaker 4: If they've put ten percent on it, though, they'd probably 1490 01:10:10,812 --> 01:10:11,253 Speaker 4: say yeah. 1491 01:10:11,492 --> 01:10:14,372 Speaker 2: I'd been interesting to find out how many parents make 1492 01:10:14,412 --> 01:10:16,053 Speaker 2: money out of their kids. So they've got all these 1493 01:10:16,093 --> 01:10:20,253 Speaker 2: things where in most people that are texting through and 1494 01:10:20,372 --> 01:10:22,412 Speaker 2: ringing on e one hundred and eighteen eighty, so they've 1495 01:10:22,452 --> 01:10:25,852 Speaker 2: got their kids staying at home potentially and living and 1496 01:10:25,973 --> 01:10:28,933 Speaker 2: paying some rent. A lot of it seems just to 1497 01:10:29,013 --> 01:10:31,572 Speaker 2: make a point that they need to be paying something 1498 01:10:31,652 --> 01:10:33,692 Speaker 2: because they're in their twenties. 1499 01:10:33,893 --> 01:10:36,253 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's at leasten in life that you have 1500 01:10:36,412 --> 01:10:39,933 Speaker 4: to rentaint freeze, so you contribute a little bit to 1501 01:10:40,692 --> 01:10:42,572 Speaker 4: have a nice room and three meals a day. 1502 01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:45,492 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wonder how many parents are charging market 1503 01:10:45,612 --> 01:10:47,492 Speaker 2: value and making actually making a bit of money from 1504 01:10:47,492 --> 01:10:48,213 Speaker 2: having their kids home. 1505 01:10:48,293 --> 01:10:50,132 Speaker 4: I think you should if you're a period, because. 1506 01:10:50,213 --> 01:10:53,133 Speaker 2: Under that kind of situation, you might go, well, i've 1507 01:10:53,133 --> 01:10:54,973 Speaker 2: got three kids, I'll get them home. We'll make some 1508 01:10:55,013 --> 01:10:56,973 Speaker 2: good coin here, and you start selling the place to 1509 01:10:57,013 --> 01:10:58,133 Speaker 2: your kids, try and bring them back. 1510 01:10:58,213 --> 01:10:59,812 Speaker 4: If that's you love to hear from you on eight 1511 01:10:59,933 --> 01:11:02,572 Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty nine two nine two is the 1512 01:11:02,612 --> 01:11:03,133 Speaker 4: text number. 1513 01:11:03,372 --> 01:11:06,252 Speaker 3: When is it time to stop financially supporting your children? 1514 01:11:07,732 --> 01:11:10,372 Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty 1515 01:11:11,053 --> 01:11:14,892 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety ticking 1516 01:11:14,973 --> 01:11:18,253 Speaker 1: every box a seamless experience of weeks news talks. 1517 01:11:18,293 --> 01:11:21,093 Speaker 4: That'd be good afternoon thirteen to three, having a great 1518 01:11:21,133 --> 01:11:24,772 Speaker 4: discussion about when should you, if ever, financially stop supporting 1519 01:11:24,812 --> 01:11:25,333 Speaker 4: your children? 1520 01:11:25,692 --> 01:11:27,812 Speaker 2: This text from nineteen nine two get a Tyler and 1521 01:11:27,853 --> 01:11:29,532 Speaker 2: Maddie quality show as always. 1522 01:11:29,853 --> 01:11:30,173 Speaker 3: Thanks. 1523 01:11:32,173 --> 01:11:34,972 Speaker 2: I had to read that we have a twenty two 1524 01:11:34,973 --> 01:11:37,652 Speaker 2: and a nineteen year old still living at home, both 1525 01:11:37,692 --> 01:11:40,612 Speaker 2: studying and working part time, but wouldn't dream of charging 1526 01:11:40,652 --> 01:11:43,492 Speaker 2: them board. They are both very responsible financially and I've 1527 01:11:43,492 --> 01:11:46,812 Speaker 2: always felt that the family home is sacrosanct. Although this 1528 01:11:47,053 --> 01:11:49,932 Speaker 2: means that we have to live fairly lean, sometimes it's 1529 01:11:50,013 --> 01:11:52,333 Speaker 2: well worth it, just a small way of helping out 1530 01:11:52,333 --> 01:11:55,452 Speaker 2: our children. Thank you for your text being nice and 1531 01:11:55,572 --> 01:11:57,812 Speaker 2: I've got this other theory on this whole thing right, Okay, 1532 01:11:58,133 --> 01:11:59,372 Speaker 2: always got my punishing theories. 1533 01:11:59,412 --> 01:12:00,093 Speaker 3: But here's another one. 1534 01:12:00,253 --> 01:12:00,412 Speaker 8: Yep. 1535 01:12:00,772 --> 01:12:02,732 Speaker 2: It was very hard for me staying living with my 1536 01:12:02,933 --> 01:12:05,652 Speaker 2: parents because they were very different from me. There are 1537 01:12:05,652 --> 01:12:07,412 Speaker 2: at different stage in their life and all that kind 1538 01:12:07,412 --> 01:12:12,053 Speaker 2: of stuff. But our parents, because culture hasn't changed that much. 1539 01:12:12,333 --> 01:12:14,852 Speaker 2: We're into the same music, the same TV shows, the 1540 01:12:14,973 --> 01:12:17,692 Speaker 2: same you know, we're into a lot of the same stuff. 1541 01:12:18,053 --> 01:12:20,173 Speaker 2: We're kind of on the same page. Me and my kids, 1542 01:12:20,572 --> 01:12:22,692 Speaker 2: so iking them, hang out with them, and I feel 1543 01:12:22,692 --> 01:12:24,293 Speaker 2: like my oldest son has become a mate now. 1544 01:12:24,572 --> 01:12:26,692 Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's almost like a flat mate. 1545 01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:28,492 Speaker 3: So you know that whole cliche. I can't wait till 1546 01:12:28,492 --> 01:12:29,053 Speaker 3: the kids get out. 1547 01:12:29,093 --> 01:12:31,692 Speaker 2: It was a whole whole thing in sitcoms that that 1548 01:12:31,812 --> 01:12:33,133 Speaker 2: you just wanted the kids out of the house so 1549 01:12:33,173 --> 01:12:35,172 Speaker 2: you could have the time for you and your misses 1550 01:12:35,253 --> 01:12:37,852 Speaker 2: to live a new life. Now I think more and 1551 01:12:37,933 --> 01:12:40,732 Speaker 2: more soft parents like me are like, I quite like 1552 01:12:40,812 --> 01:12:41,612 Speaker 2: having the kids around. 1553 01:12:41,692 --> 01:12:43,932 Speaker 3: Please don't. They're actually pretty cool to have around. They're 1554 01:12:43,973 --> 01:12:46,852 Speaker 3: quite fun. You can have free reads, free foods. Don't 1555 01:12:47,812 --> 01:12:51,572 Speaker 3: don't leave me on my own, don't leave us jack. 1556 01:12:51,612 --> 01:12:52,572 Speaker 3: Care were you this afternoon? 1557 01:12:54,492 --> 01:12:56,173 Speaker 10: Good guys, How are you doing all right? 1558 01:12:56,372 --> 01:12:56,852 Speaker 8: Yeah? Good? 1559 01:12:56,973 --> 01:12:58,932 Speaker 4: Thank you, and what are you reckon about this one? 1560 01:12:59,053 --> 01:13:01,052 Speaker 4: You your son had to learn some lessons. 1561 01:13:02,893 --> 01:13:05,892 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I I've got two boys and best friends 1562 01:13:05,933 --> 01:13:07,692 Speaker 10: with them bost at the moment where we have been 1563 01:13:07,732 --> 01:13:09,852 Speaker 10: for our whole life. But one of them, he had 1564 01:13:10,333 --> 01:13:12,732 Speaker 10: always had a part time job, paid for everything himself 1565 01:13:12,853 --> 01:13:14,452 Speaker 10: right through his studies. I was like, you need a 1566 01:13:14,492 --> 01:13:16,852 Speaker 10: handmade No, Dad, I'm all good. The other one he 1567 01:13:16,973 --> 01:13:19,452 Speaker 10: was at the university and chopped and changed his degree 1568 01:13:19,492 --> 01:13:21,173 Speaker 10: that he was doing, and then he and we were 1569 01:13:21,213 --> 01:13:23,333 Speaker 10: supporting him, and then he dropped out of university and 1570 01:13:23,333 --> 01:13:24,532 Speaker 10: I said, well, you're going to have to get yourself 1571 01:13:24,572 --> 01:13:26,973 Speaker 10: a job. Bunch of yeah, yeah, yeah, because he was 1572 01:13:27,013 --> 01:13:30,812 Speaker 10: creating Yeah. And about a couple of weeks Rings said, hey, Dad, 1573 01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:33,093 Speaker 10: I need some money for some food. And I said, 1574 01:13:33,093 --> 01:13:34,492 Speaker 10: have you got a job yet? He goes no, and 1575 01:13:34,532 --> 01:13:35,972 Speaker 10: I said, all right, we'll give you some money from 1576 01:13:36,013 --> 01:13:38,612 Speaker 10: some food. A couple of weeks later, the same thing happened, 1577 01:13:38,612 --> 01:13:40,692 Speaker 10: and I said, right, that's the last lot you need 1578 01:13:40,732 --> 01:13:42,732 Speaker 10: to get a job, and he goes, you know, Rings 1579 01:13:42,772 --> 01:13:44,173 Speaker 10: me out. A couple of weeks later he says, Dad, 1580 01:13:44,213 --> 01:13:47,132 Speaker 10: look I've only got two minute noodles and they're cupboard 1581 01:13:47,173 --> 01:13:49,133 Speaker 10: and I'm starving. And I said, have you got a 1582 01:13:49,213 --> 01:13:51,053 Speaker 10: job yet? He goes no, no, And I said if 1583 01:13:51,093 --> 01:13:52,852 Speaker 10: you have pried for it. He goes no, I've been 1584 01:13:52,893 --> 01:13:54,253 Speaker 10: a bit busy. And I said I would have been 1585 01:13:54,293 --> 01:13:56,253 Speaker 10: doing and he said hanging out with mates and doing 1586 01:13:56,293 --> 01:13:58,652 Speaker 10: all that sort of stuff. So I said, well, you know, 1587 01:13:58,893 --> 01:14:02,012 Speaker 10: enjoy your noodles. And then seen him a few tures. 1588 01:14:03,452 --> 01:14:05,293 Speaker 10: He rings me out the game and said, Dad, look 1589 01:14:05,452 --> 01:14:07,572 Speaker 10: i'm starving. I'm only just paying for a rent. And 1590 01:14:07,612 --> 01:14:09,133 Speaker 10: I said, hey, you got my emailed, didn't you. He 1591 01:14:09,213 --> 01:14:11,173 Speaker 10: said you were the jobs? He says yea, And he 1592 01:14:11,213 --> 01:14:14,012 Speaker 10: said I'm too good for those jobs. Dad, I don't 1593 01:14:14,013 --> 01:14:18,492 Speaker 10: even apply. And I said, you keep enjoying. This happened 1594 01:14:18,532 --> 01:14:20,732 Speaker 10: a couple of times and I said, don't bring me 1595 01:14:21,133 --> 01:14:23,213 Speaker 10: and ask for money. I should go get off your 1596 01:14:23,293 --> 01:14:25,492 Speaker 10: butt and go and get some work. And you know, 1597 01:14:25,812 --> 01:14:27,173 Speaker 10: there was a there was a bit cold there for 1598 01:14:27,173 --> 01:14:30,133 Speaker 10: a little while. And anyway, herings me out one day 1599 01:14:30,173 --> 01:14:32,972 Speaker 10: and he's checked away and he said, oh, Dad, I've 1600 01:14:32,973 --> 01:14:34,772 Speaker 10: applied for this job. And I said that's good, mate, 1601 01:14:35,333 --> 01:14:37,093 Speaker 10: and he said I haven't got it yet. And I said, 1602 01:14:37,253 --> 01:14:39,692 Speaker 10: I'll give you some money for some food, and he goes, 1603 01:14:39,933 --> 01:14:41,213 Speaker 10: you and I haven't got a job. And I said, 1604 01:14:41,452 --> 01:14:44,053 Speaker 10: you've applied for a job. You've made an effort. And 1605 01:14:44,173 --> 01:14:48,013 Speaker 10: he goes, oh, oh, thanks Dad. And then the way 1606 01:14:48,013 --> 01:14:50,732 Speaker 10: I got himself a job and he's actually a police officer. 1607 01:14:50,812 --> 01:14:55,532 Speaker 2: Now that's quality parenting there is That is what you've 1608 01:14:55,572 --> 01:14:59,093 Speaker 2: described here is quality parenting. There's there's consequences, you know, 1609 01:14:59,173 --> 01:15:02,093 Speaker 2: and it will be actually much easier for you to 1610 01:15:02,253 --> 01:15:04,372 Speaker 2: just buying food and you wouldn't have to worry about him, 1611 01:15:04,732 --> 01:15:06,612 Speaker 2: but you have to actually do hard stuff every now 1612 01:15:06,612 --> 01:15:07,333 Speaker 2: and then as a parent. 1613 01:15:07,412 --> 01:15:11,173 Speaker 10: Yet, Yeah, well I so terrible doing this. But we 1614 01:15:11,293 --> 01:15:13,372 Speaker 10: were talking about it the other day and he said 1615 01:15:13,452 --> 01:15:19,852 Speaker 10: I hated you, but he said that's the best lesson 1616 01:15:19,893 --> 01:15:20,492 Speaker 10: he ever taught me. 1617 01:15:20,612 --> 01:15:20,772 Speaker 5: Dad. 1618 01:15:21,013 --> 01:15:24,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome, Jack. And now he's a police officer. 1619 01:15:25,253 --> 01:15:27,173 Speaker 2: Tell you what, there's another flip side of this appear 1620 01:15:27,532 --> 01:15:29,093 Speaker 2: what I did, which was terrible. So I, you know, 1621 01:15:29,133 --> 01:15:30,972 Speaker 2: as I said before, I just zoomed down the drive. 1622 01:15:31,333 --> 01:15:34,133 Speaker 2: But then I would just cruise back home in my car, 1623 01:15:34,692 --> 01:15:38,053 Speaker 2: unload my washing into the washing machine and dryer, and 1624 01:15:38,133 --> 01:15:40,452 Speaker 2: then just load cans of food into my backpack. 1625 01:15:40,692 --> 01:15:43,812 Speaker 3: Ah, and then not only did. 1626 01:15:43,812 --> 01:15:45,852 Speaker 4: You buger off and your dad sort of thinking where's 1627 01:15:45,893 --> 01:15:48,213 Speaker 4: he going? Come back? Come back? And then you drop 1628 01:15:48,293 --> 01:15:49,612 Speaker 4: off your laundry and take his food. 1629 01:15:49,812 --> 01:15:52,293 Speaker 2: Just pil and so hungover you couldn't talk to anyone. 1630 01:15:52,692 --> 01:15:54,652 Speaker 2: Put your washing on, go back into your room, lie 1631 01:15:54,732 --> 01:15:56,572 Speaker 2: down and listen to some music, and grab myself. I 1632 01:15:56,652 --> 01:15:58,772 Speaker 2: have a lot of guilt for that, teenagers, because now 1633 01:15:58,812 --> 01:16:03,093 Speaker 2: I'm a parent, I see how massively heartbreaking and disrespectful 1634 01:16:03,093 --> 01:16:03,692 Speaker 2: that would have been. 1635 01:16:04,532 --> 01:16:07,012 Speaker 4: At least you learned right. We're gonna play some messages, 1636 01:16:07,133 --> 01:16:08,973 Speaker 4: then we'll come back with more of your calls. It 1637 01:16:09,173 --> 01:16:11,213 Speaker 4: is eight to three, the. 1638 01:16:11,333 --> 01:16:13,852 Speaker 5: Issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along 1639 01:16:13,933 --> 01:16:14,213 Speaker 5: the way. 1640 01:16:14,452 --> 01:16:18,372 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety Innovation, 1641 01:16:18,612 --> 01:16:19,612 Speaker 1: Style and design. 1642 01:16:19,812 --> 01:16:21,893 Speaker 5: Have it all new TALKSB. 1643 01:16:22,933 --> 01:16:27,133 Speaker 4: News talks. It'd be good afternoon, Abby. How are you good? 1644 01:16:27,213 --> 01:16:27,532 Speaker 3: Texts? 1645 01:16:27,532 --> 01:16:27,972 Speaker 14: How are you going? 1646 01:16:28,013 --> 01:16:28,253 Speaker 15: Guys? 1647 01:16:28,372 --> 01:16:28,572 Speaker 7: Good? 1648 01:16:28,652 --> 01:16:28,892 Speaker 17: Good? 1649 01:16:29,133 --> 01:16:33,372 Speaker 4: So you sound fairly young yourself. Are you Are you 1650 01:16:33,492 --> 01:16:34,892 Speaker 4: still living with the parents, Abbie? 1651 01:16:35,532 --> 01:16:37,852 Speaker 16: No, No, I'm thirty three. I have kids on my 1652 01:16:37,933 --> 01:16:38,412 Speaker 16: own now. 1653 01:16:38,532 --> 01:16:41,293 Speaker 4: Right, okay, okay, And what's your take on this? 1654 01:16:42,532 --> 01:16:42,572 Speaker 10: So? 1655 01:16:43,053 --> 01:16:45,492 Speaker 16: Yeah, my parents were I found it really great that. 1656 01:16:46,173 --> 01:16:48,932 Speaker 16: From when I was about probably fourteen, it was they 1657 01:16:49,013 --> 01:16:51,293 Speaker 16: were they paid for everything, like when I was at school, 1658 01:16:51,372 --> 01:16:53,532 Speaker 16: like sports, anything I wanted to do that was to 1659 01:16:53,572 --> 01:16:55,932 Speaker 16: do with school or whatever call they paid for. From 1660 01:16:55,973 --> 01:16:57,213 Speaker 16: about fourteen fifteen, if I. 1661 01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:58,973 Speaker 7: Wanted to go out with my friends, if I wanted to. 1662 01:16:59,013 --> 01:17:01,253 Speaker 16: Do like the movies or bowling or anything like that, 1663 01:17:01,372 --> 01:17:03,652 Speaker 16: you had to get a job. And then when I 1664 01:17:03,772 --> 01:17:05,532 Speaker 16: was studying it was the same. It was like you 1665 01:17:05,572 --> 01:17:07,133 Speaker 16: can live at home and you can eat from the 1666 01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:09,492 Speaker 16: pantry and whatever, and that's fine, but if you want 1667 01:17:09,532 --> 01:17:10,893 Speaker 16: a car, you have to have a job so you 1668 01:17:10,933 --> 01:17:12,412 Speaker 16: can put petrel on it. And you have to have 1669 01:17:12,452 --> 01:17:14,893 Speaker 16: a job if you want to go to parties or 1670 01:17:14,893 --> 01:17:16,492 Speaker 16: whatever you want to do. So I always found that 1671 01:17:16,652 --> 01:17:18,732 Speaker 16: really good. It was like a good lesson of like 1672 01:17:19,612 --> 01:17:22,133 Speaker 16: we'll support you, but you need to support yourself as well. 1673 01:17:22,973 --> 01:17:24,932 Speaker 2: Just a bit frustrating at the time as a child, 1674 01:17:25,013 --> 01:17:27,492 Speaker 2: but such a great lesson. And did you struggle find 1675 01:17:27,572 --> 01:17:29,093 Speaker 2: it to find a job, because that's the problem now 1676 01:17:29,133 --> 01:17:30,132 Speaker 2: it's some people. 1677 01:17:29,933 --> 01:17:32,093 Speaker 3: Don't want to hire fifteen year olds and fourteen year olds. 1678 01:17:32,213 --> 01:17:34,812 Speaker 16: I think it's a lot harder. No, I used to 1679 01:17:34,853 --> 01:17:37,572 Speaker 16: actually look after a girl in a wheelchair. I was 1680 01:17:37,652 --> 01:17:39,772 Speaker 16: like her companion for a while in the school holidays, 1681 01:17:39,853 --> 01:17:42,133 Speaker 16: and then I just saved that up. Yeah, and then 1682 01:17:42,173 --> 01:17:44,452 Speaker 16: I got a job at Pizza Hut, and then I 1683 01:17:44,612 --> 01:17:46,412 Speaker 16: wasn't studying, so I was an apprentice at the same 1684 01:17:46,452 --> 01:17:47,213 Speaker 16: time I was studying. 1685 01:17:47,293 --> 01:17:49,812 Speaker 3: So yeah, and you are you still good with money? 1686 01:17:49,853 --> 01:17:53,652 Speaker 16: Abby beverage? 1687 01:17:55,293 --> 01:17:55,652 Speaker 21: Now right? 1688 01:17:56,253 --> 01:17:59,372 Speaker 16: Hard because we've got two kids and everything's expensive. 1689 01:17:59,572 --> 01:18:00,093 Speaker 5: But we try. 1690 01:18:00,253 --> 01:18:02,732 Speaker 3: Me good, Yeah, crime me good, hebby, Thank you so 1691 01:18:02,812 --> 01:18:03,333 Speaker 3: much for your call. 1692 01:18:03,532 --> 01:18:05,812 Speaker 4: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 1693 01:18:05,812 --> 01:18:07,692 Speaker 4: of call just on the job front. I remember. I 1694 01:18:07,732 --> 01:18:10,052 Speaker 4: think it's still like the student job suits. Does that exist? 1695 01:18:10,133 --> 01:18:12,372 Speaker 4: But we never struggled to find a job. There was 1696 01:18:12,412 --> 01:18:15,293 Speaker 4: always a fence to be painted or helping someone move, 1697 01:18:15,732 --> 01:18:16,932 Speaker 4: So I don't know if that still exists. 1698 01:18:17,053 --> 01:18:20,052 Speaker 3: Did you live back in the depression era? You're a hobo. 1699 01:18:20,133 --> 01:18:21,772 Speaker 3: You went from town to town with pretty much from 1700 01:18:21,772 --> 01:18:22,213 Speaker 3: the nap. 1701 01:18:22,173 --> 01:18:25,293 Speaker 4: Had right eighty ten eighties and ump to cool. News 1702 01:18:25,372 --> 01:18:25,972 Speaker 4: is next. 1703 01:18:27,492 --> 01:18:31,692 Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Maddie 1704 01:18:31,973 --> 01:18:35,933 Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons with the Volvo x eighty on 1705 01:18:36,133 --> 01:18:36,852 Speaker 1: News Talk. 1706 01:18:36,772 --> 01:18:40,372 Speaker 4: Sev Good afternoon. Do you welcome back into the show? 1707 01:18:40,572 --> 01:18:41,732 Speaker 4: Six past three. 1708 01:18:42,173 --> 01:18:44,932 Speaker 2: We're about to get on to a very important topic, 1709 01:18:45,053 --> 01:18:48,333 Speaker 2: which is binge watching shows as opposed to the weekly 1710 01:18:48,412 --> 01:18:51,173 Speaker 2: shows that are coming out. A huge topic because in 1711 01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:53,253 Speaker 2: my friend group, even when we're at the rugby at 1712 01:18:53,372 --> 01:18:55,412 Speaker 2: Eden Park on the weekend, we were still talking about 1713 01:18:55,452 --> 01:18:57,452 Speaker 2: White Lotus and our theories on where that's going. I 1714 01:18:57,572 --> 01:18:59,772 Speaker 2: think a week to week show just means that you 1715 01:18:59,893 --> 01:19:02,532 Speaker 2: get more enjoyment out of it bubbles rather than bingeing it. 1716 01:19:02,612 --> 01:19:04,972 Speaker 2: And Netflix used to just dump the whole lot there. 1717 01:19:05,013 --> 01:19:06,572 Speaker 2: But that's just before we go into that. We got 1718 01:19:06,612 --> 01:19:08,133 Speaker 2: so many great texts in the last hour of the 1719 01:19:08,173 --> 01:19:11,532 Speaker 2: time topic on when you should stop when the topic 1720 01:19:11,732 --> 01:19:13,852 Speaker 2: was whiners at time to stop financially sporting your children, 1721 01:19:14,213 --> 01:19:15,732 Speaker 2: And we got so many texts on there that we 1722 01:19:15,772 --> 01:19:17,333 Speaker 2: didn't we didn't get to, so I thought we'd just 1723 01:19:17,452 --> 01:19:19,053 Speaker 2: go through some of those now to finish it off 1724 01:19:19,812 --> 01:19:21,692 Speaker 2: far out all these people. I'm twenty five and my 1725 01:19:21,812 --> 01:19:24,173 Speaker 2: parents are living with me, just charge them a little 1726 01:19:24,173 --> 01:19:26,053 Speaker 2: bit for food and power? What age do I cut 1727 01:19:26,133 --> 01:19:30,093 Speaker 2: them off? I eight fifty two and fifty five. 1728 01:19:30,213 --> 01:19:32,532 Speaker 4: Great text? There you go, Good on you twenty five 1729 01:19:32,652 --> 01:19:34,572 Speaker 4: and helping out your parents at fifty two and fifty five. 1730 01:19:34,692 --> 01:19:36,732 Speaker 2: Well you owe them, Yeah, yeah, owe your parents. They 1731 01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:39,173 Speaker 2: brought you into the world, they feed you, they loved you. 1732 01:19:39,532 --> 01:19:42,093 Speaker 2: So you actually owe your parents for their entire life. 1733 01:19:42,173 --> 01:19:44,253 Speaker 4: Yeah, you did pretty well for the first eighteen plus 1734 01:19:44,372 --> 01:19:44,972 Speaker 4: years of your life. 1735 01:19:45,013 --> 01:19:47,293 Speaker 3: Well, I remember in arguments with my parents, I'd say, 1736 01:19:47,452 --> 01:19:50,452 Speaker 3: it's not my fault, I'm here. You chose to have me, 1737 01:19:50,652 --> 01:19:53,533 Speaker 3: and they'd go, well, we didn't really chose. 1738 01:19:53,253 --> 01:19:53,612 Speaker 10: To have you. 1739 01:19:53,612 --> 01:19:55,253 Speaker 4: A bit of it surprised, maybe a bit of a 1740 01:19:55,293 --> 01:19:55,852 Speaker 4: heavy mistake. 1741 01:19:57,492 --> 01:19:59,972 Speaker 2: Actions speak louder than words, and I have to say 1742 01:20:00,692 --> 01:20:02,652 Speaker 2: with dollars, you've got to have the energy to get it. 1743 01:20:03,013 --> 01:20:05,372 Speaker 2: So I would stop being supportive when a child, and 1744 01:20:05,492 --> 01:20:08,093 Speaker 2: especially if an edit one becomes reliant and expects too 1745 01:20:08,133 --> 01:20:10,973 Speaker 2: much does nothing for himself. It's a passive form of 1746 01:20:11,093 --> 01:20:14,852 Speaker 2: stealing or scamming. Wow wow, right, there you go. And 1747 01:20:14,933 --> 01:20:16,852 Speaker 2: speaking of stealing, this Texas says my dad was a 1748 01:20:16,893 --> 01:20:19,652 Speaker 2: massive double brown drinker back when it was twenty beers 1749 01:20:19,692 --> 01:20:21,893 Speaker 2: for twenty bucks. I to have a mammoth stack in 1750 01:20:21,933 --> 01:20:24,293 Speaker 2: the shed. For some side cash, I'd sell a few 1751 01:20:24,372 --> 01:20:27,133 Speaker 2: boxes to my mates who were underage. The old man 1752 01:20:27,173 --> 01:20:29,372 Speaker 2: thought he was drinking too fast with his mates and 1753 01:20:29,532 --> 01:20:31,652 Speaker 2: kept it stopped up for at least eighteen months. At 1754 01:20:31,692 --> 01:20:34,253 Speaker 2: a time, I was making forty to sixty every weekend. 1755 01:20:34,372 --> 01:20:37,572 Speaker 3: Cheers dad. Well it's the part of the Yeah. 1756 01:20:37,812 --> 01:20:40,253 Speaker 4: I want to say well played, but if it's quite 1757 01:20:40,293 --> 01:20:41,732 Speaker 4: well played, very clever, that. 1758 01:20:41,772 --> 01:20:42,612 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem grateful. 1759 01:20:42,853 --> 01:20:45,492 Speaker 2: My sixty six, sixty five and six year old step 1760 01:20:45,612 --> 01:20:48,652 Speaker 2: children expect us to steal financially support. We stopped it 1761 01:20:48,732 --> 01:20:50,692 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and we really hear from them 1762 01:20:50,772 --> 01:20:53,412 Speaker 2: now other than if they need something. We no longer 1763 01:20:53,492 --> 01:20:57,092 Speaker 2: assist as we're covering our retirement needs. My advice assists 1764 01:20:57,133 --> 01:21:00,372 Speaker 2: in education, and no more sixty six, sixty five and 1765 01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:03,492 Speaker 2: sixty four year old step children expecting financial assistance. 1766 01:21:03,572 --> 01:21:06,492 Speaker 4: Yeah, if you haven't cut the apron springs by then, 1767 01:21:06,572 --> 01:21:08,052 Speaker 4: you'd never go into If. 1768 01:21:07,933 --> 01:21:11,333 Speaker 2: You're six five and you're a pensioner and you've still 1769 01:21:11,372 --> 01:21:13,213 Speaker 2: got your hand out to your parents, you've got to 1770 01:21:13,213 --> 01:21:14,012 Speaker 2: take a look in the mirror. 1771 01:21:14,532 --> 01:21:14,772 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1772 01:21:15,053 --> 01:21:16,892 Speaker 4: I don't think they will ever stop if you haven't 1773 01:21:16,933 --> 01:21:17,612 Speaker 4: learned by then. 1774 01:21:18,692 --> 01:21:20,732 Speaker 2: Our son is fifteen and been working two years and 1775 01:21:20,772 --> 01:21:22,812 Speaker 2: plays most of the stuff he wants other than basics, 1776 01:21:22,933 --> 01:21:25,173 Speaker 2: very liberating and self sufficient experience for him. 1777 01:21:25,452 --> 01:21:26,293 Speaker 4: He's good at fifteen. 1778 01:21:26,412 --> 01:21:28,732 Speaker 2: I think that you know, when my son got a 1779 01:21:29,093 --> 01:21:31,492 Speaker 2: part time job in a cafe, working in the KITCHENEP 1780 01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:35,093 Speaker 2: he was lucky because the way that COVID, you know, 1781 01:21:35,133 --> 01:21:37,013 Speaker 2: there was that period where there was no one to 1782 01:21:37,093 --> 01:21:39,732 Speaker 2: work at all these jobs, you know, because the country 1783 01:21:39,772 --> 01:21:43,093 Speaker 2: had been shut down, and so there was a lot 1784 01:21:43,293 --> 01:21:46,293 Speaker 2: of good employment for fourteen or fifteen year olds there. 1785 01:21:46,372 --> 01:21:48,093 Speaker 2: And he's just stayed in the same place. So he's 1786 01:21:48,133 --> 01:21:50,932 Speaker 2: working in a cafe and he's now he's eighteen, he's 1787 01:21:50,933 --> 01:21:54,492 Speaker 2: now the longest employee in that cafe, was working on 1788 01:21:54,572 --> 01:21:59,613 Speaker 2: the weekends. But that understanding of money and the understanding 1789 01:21:59,692 --> 01:22:02,293 Speaker 2: of the where money comes from, because until you've worked 1790 01:22:02,333 --> 01:22:06,012 Speaker 2: an hour for minimum wage, yeah, minimum wage is pretty 1791 01:22:06,013 --> 01:22:09,532 Speaker 2: spectacular these days. Until you've worked for an hour from 1792 01:22:09,532 --> 01:22:13,732 Speaker 2: millionum wage and then done the equation between those that 1793 01:22:13,893 --> 01:22:15,852 Speaker 2: junk food you're buying and how long it takes to 1794 01:22:15,933 --> 01:22:18,532 Speaker 2: earn it, you don't really understand how the world works. 1795 01:22:18,652 --> 01:22:20,572 Speaker 4: No, he no, I mean when I got that job 1796 01:22:20,612 --> 01:22:22,732 Speaker 4: at Sea Lords, I think I was sixteen, and they 1797 01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:25,133 Speaker 4: were paying sixteen bucks an hour, that was mass of 1798 01:22:25,213 --> 01:22:26,772 Speaker 4: money back in the day. And I think the only 1799 01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:28,532 Speaker 4: thing I needed to do to get a job at 1800 01:22:28,572 --> 01:22:30,372 Speaker 4: Sea Lords was past of your own test. It was 1801 01:22:30,412 --> 01:22:33,933 Speaker 4: pretty easy be Then this one says Giday. Guys, I 1802 01:22:35,053 --> 01:22:37,852 Speaker 4: have a few daughters, twenty one years old. She has 1803 01:22:37,973 --> 01:22:40,612 Speaker 4: lived use for a couple of years and is self sufficient. 1804 01:22:40,692 --> 01:22:43,053 Speaker 4: An eighteen year old and her boyfriend lived with me 1805 01:22:43,213 --> 01:22:45,293 Speaker 4: and they pay one hundred and eighty bucks a week 1806 01:22:45,333 --> 01:22:48,532 Speaker 4: for room cheap. Yeah, cover their own food, et cetera. 1807 01:22:48,692 --> 01:22:52,333 Speaker 4: They have one hundred thousand CA deposit and a house 1808 01:22:52,412 --> 01:22:54,532 Speaker 4: hunting good effort, I mean whatever. 1809 01:22:54,732 --> 01:22:56,492 Speaker 2: Like a parent, if you support your kids, well, they're 1810 01:22:56,532 --> 01:22:59,652 Speaker 2: getting their house deposit, then you ask for some equity 1811 01:22:59,652 --> 01:23:01,852 Speaker 2: in the house, you'd. 1812 01:23:01,692 --> 01:23:05,372 Speaker 4: Be within your rights too, right. Good discussion, that's and 1813 01:23:05,492 --> 01:23:07,692 Speaker 4: thank you very much for all the text and phone 1814 01:23:07,732 --> 01:23:10,572 Speaker 4: calls on that. But let's have a chat about binge 1815 01:23:10,612 --> 01:23:13,293 Speaker 4: watching versus the weekly installments. 1816 01:23:13,612 --> 01:23:16,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, so White Lotus is out at the moment, and 1817 01:23:16,812 --> 01:23:19,173 Speaker 2: it's there's been accusations, a bit slow, but I find 1818 01:23:19,213 --> 01:23:21,652 Speaker 2: it very tense. And I love the White Loaders series, 1819 01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:23,852 Speaker 2: and we're in series three now, but that comes out 1820 01:23:24,372 --> 01:23:27,652 Speaker 2: one a week. Yes, and so it plays, you watch it, 1821 01:23:27,933 --> 01:23:29,732 Speaker 2: you wake a wait a whole week, and you watch 1822 01:23:29,772 --> 01:23:32,052 Speaker 2: the next episode, And I think that makes the show better. 1823 01:23:32,452 --> 01:23:35,293 Speaker 2: And I think that we've been sold a terrible way 1824 01:23:35,333 --> 01:23:37,492 Speaker 2: to live your life with the binge watching. I think 1825 01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:40,852 Speaker 2: watching ten episodes of a show in a row and 1826 01:23:40,933 --> 01:23:44,293 Speaker 2: your laptop and your bed is just a disgusting, sloth 1827 01:23:44,452 --> 01:23:46,013 Speaker 2: like way to live your life. It's like being an 1828 01:23:46,013 --> 01:23:48,932 Speaker 2: adult edict. You're addicted to the next one. So even 1829 01:23:48,973 --> 01:23:50,412 Speaker 2: if you have all of them, even if you come 1830 01:23:50,492 --> 01:23:53,692 Speaker 2: to let's say the Sopranos years and years afterwards, and 1831 01:23:53,732 --> 01:23:55,692 Speaker 2: you've got all of them, then I think the best 1832 01:23:55,692 --> 01:23:59,492 Speaker 2: way you just need to watch one every here and there. 1833 01:23:59,692 --> 01:24:02,492 Speaker 4: You know what them is if you line them up 1834 01:24:02,652 --> 01:24:04,972 Speaker 4: so like the White Lotus, for example, when everybody's talking 1835 01:24:04,973 --> 01:24:08,013 Speaker 4: about it, fantastic show, good writing, got great acting. But 1836 01:24:08,093 --> 01:24:10,933 Speaker 4: if you line them up, so I go without for 1837 01:24:11,053 --> 01:24:13,452 Speaker 4: three weeks. And this is actually me that I've seen 1838 01:24:13,492 --> 01:24:15,692 Speaker 4: the first episode of White Loatus. I still need to 1839 01:24:15,772 --> 01:24:18,293 Speaker 4: catch up on those other two. Surely I can binge 1840 01:24:18,333 --> 01:24:19,012 Speaker 4: watch a couple. 1841 01:24:18,853 --> 01:24:19,173 Speaker 5: In a row. 1842 01:24:19,333 --> 01:24:21,812 Speaker 3: Mate. You can do whatever you want. You can you 1843 01:24:22,053 --> 01:24:23,133 Speaker 3: can do whatever you want. 1844 01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:25,532 Speaker 2: You can put them on on three TVs and watch 1845 01:24:25,572 --> 01:24:27,812 Speaker 2: them simultaneous today if you want, yeah, I will. But 1846 01:24:27,973 --> 01:24:31,452 Speaker 2: on my My point is there's something beautiful and the 1847 01:24:31,532 --> 01:24:33,852 Speaker 2: old way shows used to be. You know, I used 1848 01:24:33,853 --> 01:24:36,013 Speaker 2: to be a huge fan of The X Files, and 1849 01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:39,253 Speaker 2: when the next episode came out, I'd be so excited. 1850 01:24:39,772 --> 01:24:44,532 Speaker 2: The scarcity of it made it's so brilliant, whereas if 1851 01:24:44,572 --> 01:24:48,052 Speaker 2: it's just like Stranger Things, it's dumped. Everyone just watches 1852 01:24:48,133 --> 01:24:51,133 Speaker 2: it and you just feel like you're being force feed 1853 01:24:51,213 --> 01:24:54,412 Speaker 2: junk food and then you just you just move on. 1854 01:24:54,772 --> 01:24:56,213 Speaker 3: So I say, weekly is the way to go. 1855 01:24:56,372 --> 01:24:59,652 Speaker 4: Reacher Reach a great series series of Reacher. YEP. 1856 01:25:00,013 --> 01:25:03,612 Speaker 3: First series of Reacher brilliant. Yeah, second series went off 1857 01:25:03,612 --> 01:25:05,732 Speaker 3: the boiler, but I reckon. But third series is right back. 1858 01:25:06,133 --> 01:25:08,133 Speaker 4: They brought it back. The one that we at the moment. 1859 01:25:08,333 --> 01:25:10,852 Speaker 4: Mixter Original Sin, which is kind of like a prelude 1860 01:25:10,893 --> 01:25:14,213 Speaker 4: to Dixter, very very popular TV show, and it's good. 1861 01:25:14,293 --> 01:25:16,932 Speaker 4: It is really good. What is it Dixter Original Sin? 1862 01:25:17,013 --> 01:25:20,253 Speaker 4: So it goes back to almost Dexter's childhood and then 1863 01:25:20,333 --> 01:25:23,333 Speaker 4: when he starts to get into the CSI unit within 1864 01:25:23,412 --> 01:25:26,412 Speaker 4: the police department. And if you don't know what Dixter 1865 01:25:26,692 --> 01:25:29,572 Speaker 4: is I'm not going to give any spoilers away here. 1866 01:25:29,692 --> 01:25:34,652 Speaker 4: It's effectively about a character who moonlights as a good 1867 01:25:35,093 --> 01:25:39,572 Speaker 4: serial killer, so he only dispatches bad, evil people. It's 1868 01:25:39,612 --> 01:25:43,133 Speaker 4: great series, great series, but it does drop weekly and 1869 01:25:43,253 --> 01:25:44,333 Speaker 4: that's quite frustrating. 1870 01:25:44,692 --> 01:25:47,492 Speaker 2: This is a huge coincidence that you bring this up 1871 01:25:47,492 --> 01:25:49,013 Speaker 2: because the reason why, one of the main reasons why 1872 01:25:49,013 --> 01:25:50,532 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this is my son's watching the 1873 01:25:50,572 --> 01:25:52,452 Speaker 2: old series of Dexter, the original series of the one 1874 01:25:52,492 --> 01:25:55,253 Speaker 2: hundred episodes that came out a while back, and there's 1875 01:25:55,333 --> 01:25:58,652 Speaker 2: a huge recap of the previous week on the show 1876 01:25:58,692 --> 01:26:01,333 Speaker 2: at the start, and my fifteen year old son was going, 1877 01:26:01,853 --> 01:26:02,933 Speaker 2: why we know that? 1878 01:26:03,572 --> 01:26:04,932 Speaker 3: Why are they repeating all that stuff? 1879 01:26:05,093 --> 01:26:06,932 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, because in the old days, 1880 01:26:06,973 --> 01:26:08,333 Speaker 2: you'd had to wait a whole week for the show, 1881 01:26:08,652 --> 01:26:10,652 Speaker 2: so you may have forgotten that stuff and you actually 1882 01:26:10,732 --> 01:26:14,132 Speaker 2: needed a proper, solid, solid catch. 1883 01:26:14,013 --> 01:26:16,572 Speaker 4: Up last week on Dexter, you had the old recap. 1884 01:26:16,772 --> 01:26:18,093 Speaker 4: But love to hear from you on this one O 1885 01:26:18,173 --> 01:26:20,933 Speaker 4: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Have we gone a 1886 01:26:20,973 --> 01:26:22,572 Speaker 4: bit crazy with the binge watching? 1887 01:26:23,013 --> 01:26:26,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, as binge watching sucking the life out of you? 1888 01:26:26,412 --> 01:26:28,572 Speaker 2: And is it better to discuss the shows throughout the 1889 01:26:28,612 --> 01:26:28,933 Speaker 2: week and. 1890 01:26:29,053 --> 01:26:30,333 Speaker 3: Try and get the most out of them. 1891 01:26:30,452 --> 01:26:33,372 Speaker 4: What was the last show you've watched, honestly. 1892 01:26:34,652 --> 01:26:35,772 Speaker 3: Wow, Clarkson's Farm. 1893 01:26:35,973 --> 01:26:36,692 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. 1894 01:26:37,612 --> 01:26:39,812 Speaker 2: I was a late one to Clarkson's Farm, only discovered 1895 01:26:39,853 --> 01:26:41,372 Speaker 2: it about three weeks ago, and the people have been 1896 01:26:41,372 --> 01:26:43,452 Speaker 2: telling me to watch it for the longest time. And 1897 01:26:43,572 --> 01:26:46,333 Speaker 2: then I didn't want to leave that far. I just 1898 01:26:46,933 --> 01:26:49,253 Speaker 2: I loved it so much and now I understand why 1899 01:26:49,253 --> 01:26:50,692 Speaker 2: people were talking about it for so long that I 1900 01:26:50,772 --> 01:26:54,213 Speaker 2: just wanted to sit there and live in Clarkson's Farm 1901 01:26:54,692 --> 01:26:56,893 Speaker 2: and hang out with all the characters. They became like 1902 01:26:57,013 --> 01:26:59,372 Speaker 2: my family, and to the point where I was like, 1903 01:26:59,452 --> 01:27:01,812 Speaker 2: I need to get back to a farm. So we 1904 01:27:01,973 --> 01:27:03,973 Speaker 2: got an airbnb on a farm to go back and 1905 01:27:04,013 --> 01:27:05,532 Speaker 2: hang out in a farm when I wasn't watching it. 1906 01:27:05,612 --> 01:27:08,133 Speaker 2: And now I'm completely up to date and I cannot 1907 01:27:08,452 --> 01:27:09,013 Speaker 2: wait for the. 1908 01:27:09,013 --> 01:27:12,333 Speaker 3: Next season, which I believe is out. And about about 1909 01:27:12,492 --> 01:27:13,132 Speaker 3: two months. 1910 01:27:13,013 --> 01:27:14,732 Speaker 4: When you were getting to the last few episodes, it 1911 01:27:14,772 --> 01:27:16,692 Speaker 4: got pretty hard for you. I mean you were texting everybody, 1912 01:27:16,772 --> 01:27:18,213 Speaker 4: say what do you do when you get to the 1913 01:27:18,333 --> 01:27:20,853 Speaker 4: end of Clarkson's Farm? Said, I know, mate, stuff. 1914 01:27:21,612 --> 01:27:25,492 Speaker 2: This text from Ritchie great show normally, but these recent 1915 01:27:25,532 --> 01:27:28,772 Speaker 2: comments have made me very angry. White Lotus seriously good 1916 01:27:28,812 --> 01:27:29,572 Speaker 2: writing and acting? 1917 01:27:29,933 --> 01:27:30,612 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? 1918 01:27:30,732 --> 01:27:33,692 Speaker 2: It's mindless jelly meat for the human brain. Ut a garbage, sad, 1919 01:27:33,772 --> 01:27:37,572 Speaker 2: sad sad. Richie good text, Richie, good text. 1920 01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:40,333 Speaker 3: We've lost We've lost Richie. 1921 01:27:40,372 --> 01:27:43,253 Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry Richie, Ritchie. We're keen to hear from you though. 1922 01:27:43,253 --> 01:27:44,973 Speaker 4: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty what are 1923 01:27:44,973 --> 01:27:48,053 Speaker 4: your binge watching? On this one here? Dextera is the 1924 01:27:48,173 --> 01:27:51,732 Speaker 4: absolute best series ever made, yep I mentioned texta original 1925 01:27:51,772 --> 01:27:52,852 Speaker 4: sin that has just come out. 1926 01:27:52,893 --> 01:27:54,293 Speaker 3: And this text here on nineteen nine two. 1927 01:27:54,333 --> 01:27:57,212 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, binge watching is for losers unless it's Clarkson's 1928 01:27:57,253 --> 01:27:59,732 Speaker 2: Farm or Yellowstone regards, Craig, I agree with you, Craig, 1929 01:27:59,812 --> 01:28:00,772 Speaker 2: I think we could be friends. 1930 01:28:01,452 --> 01:28:03,772 Speaker 4: Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 1931 01:28:03,812 --> 01:28:08,692 Speaker 4: to call. It is sixteen past three, good afternoon, team 1932 01:28:08,772 --> 01:28:12,213 Speaker 4: past three binge watching versus waiting each week for the 1933 01:28:12,333 --> 01:28:15,333 Speaker 4: episode to drop. That is the question, and plenty of 1934 01:28:15,372 --> 01:28:19,932 Speaker 4: texts coming through on nine two nine to two. Ghiddo, guys. 1935 01:28:20,093 --> 01:28:23,573 Speaker 4: The only binge worthy series is Reach Your an absolute 1936 01:28:23,772 --> 01:28:24,612 Speaker 4: banger from us. 1937 01:28:24,933 --> 01:28:26,412 Speaker 3: I'll reach it is so good. 1938 01:28:26,652 --> 01:28:29,333 Speaker 2: They did this, They've done this servant to what men 1939 01:28:29,532 --> 01:28:31,892 Speaker 2: like to watch, and this is this is the perfect 1940 01:28:32,293 --> 01:28:34,492 Speaker 2: show for a man. Right, we'll get to your phone 1941 01:28:34,532 --> 01:28:36,812 Speaker 2: calls and your text in a second. But just punishing 1942 01:28:36,893 --> 01:28:37,253 Speaker 2: little thing. 1943 01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:38,412 Speaker 3: I read that with you. 1944 01:28:38,853 --> 01:28:41,133 Speaker 2: But they found out that the ultimate show for men 1945 01:28:41,732 --> 01:28:44,293 Speaker 2: and it's called dad TV. And it's when a guy 1946 01:28:44,692 --> 01:28:48,012 Speaker 2: it's really good at stuff who doesn't want any credit, 1947 01:28:48,692 --> 01:28:52,772 Speaker 2: turns up somewhere, protects some women and children and maybe 1948 01:28:52,812 --> 01:28:57,452 Speaker 2: some vulnerable people through ultra violence, and then leaves town 1949 01:28:57,532 --> 01:28:58,492 Speaker 2: without getting any credit. 1950 01:28:58,652 --> 01:29:01,973 Speaker 3: It slight the equalizer with Denzel Washington or Reacher a 1951 01:29:02,013 --> 01:29:02,372 Speaker 3: little bit. 1952 01:29:02,452 --> 01:29:04,973 Speaker 4: John Wick, Yeah, I'd concur with that, absolutely. 1953 01:29:05,293 --> 01:29:08,572 Speaker 2: Yeah, just just doesn't want doesn't want any glory, just 1954 01:29:08,652 --> 01:29:11,173 Speaker 2: this spots are wrong and then kills a lot of 1955 01:29:11,213 --> 01:29:12,212 Speaker 2: people and then gets. 1956 01:29:12,053 --> 01:29:13,412 Speaker 3: On a bus out of town and we love it. 1957 01:29:13,812 --> 01:29:16,532 Speaker 4: Mister Nobody was another one that was very soilar That 1958 01:29:16,652 --> 01:29:18,652 Speaker 4: was a great movie. Yes, oh, e one hundred and 1959 01:29:18,772 --> 01:29:22,772 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. I think we've got Sandy on the line. 1960 01:29:23,532 --> 01:29:25,812 Speaker 19: Sandy there, you're going. 1961 01:29:25,973 --> 01:29:28,012 Speaker 4: Yeah, good, are you a binge watcher? 1962 01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:29,652 Speaker 12: Uh? 1963 01:29:30,692 --> 01:29:34,293 Speaker 19: Sort of in the middle. Okay, what we do is 1964 01:29:35,253 --> 01:29:37,732 Speaker 19: it's found a good show and and the wife. We 1965 01:29:37,893 --> 01:29:41,532 Speaker 19: usually watch one episode every night, you know, yep, so 1966 01:29:42,093 --> 01:29:45,492 Speaker 19: Monday night through that. And then it also gives you 1967 01:29:45,612 --> 01:29:49,133 Speaker 19: the chance that when there is that cliff haanger at 1968 01:29:49,173 --> 01:29:51,093 Speaker 19: the end, you're wondering, what the heck is going to 1969 01:29:51,133 --> 01:29:55,652 Speaker 19: happen next, Let's just watch the second one share, That'll 1970 01:29:55,692 --> 01:29:57,133 Speaker 19: be it with the binges, watching will be too in 1971 01:29:57,213 --> 01:29:59,732 Speaker 19: a row. Usually it's just every. 1972 01:29:59,612 --> 01:30:01,973 Speaker 2: Night I'll allow in a row, allowed to in a 1973 01:30:02,053 --> 01:30:05,492 Speaker 2: row because but but but when you start watching, like so, 1974 01:30:05,732 --> 01:30:08,013 Speaker 2: you start watching the show, there's there's ten episodes and 1975 01:30:08,093 --> 01:30:12,333 Speaker 2: you just screamed through it. What start watching while you're 1976 01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:14,452 Speaker 2: watching dinner and then you start at three am in 1977 01:30:14,492 --> 01:30:16,372 Speaker 2: the morning, I think that's just leaves you. 1978 01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:19,173 Speaker 3: It's like it leaves you with the TV show hangover. 1979 01:30:20,253 --> 01:30:23,133 Speaker 19: I don't think you take it in probably mean the 1980 01:30:23,173 --> 01:30:25,812 Speaker 19: storylines and what's going on when you do binging. 1981 01:30:26,133 --> 01:30:28,852 Speaker 21: Yeah, have you guys watched Slow Horses yet? 1982 01:30:29,293 --> 01:30:30,372 Speaker 3: That is the great show? 1983 01:30:30,452 --> 01:30:32,852 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Gary Olman that his character in that 1984 01:30:32,973 --> 01:30:35,053 Speaker 2: show is just one of the greatest characters that have 1985 01:30:35,213 --> 01:30:38,213 Speaker 2: ever been the TV show. I haven't got the I 1986 01:30:38,293 --> 01:30:39,852 Speaker 2: started reading the book for the book of. 1987 01:30:40,612 --> 01:30:43,013 Speaker 19: Yeah, I think another season is coming out this year. 1988 01:30:43,293 --> 01:30:45,132 Speaker 4: Yeah, to watch Slow Horses. 1989 01:30:45,293 --> 01:30:47,253 Speaker 3: The books, the books it's based on are really good 1990 01:30:47,293 --> 01:30:47,572 Speaker 3: as well. 1991 01:30:49,173 --> 01:30:50,333 Speaker 19: Between watch that one. 1992 01:30:51,213 --> 01:30:53,293 Speaker 4: No, I've seen the clips of it though. That's the 1993 01:30:53,372 --> 01:30:58,372 Speaker 4: Australian TV series where he is what's his role? I 1994 01:30:58,412 --> 01:31:00,092 Speaker 4: mean he works for the mob, doesn't any. 1995 01:31:01,772 --> 01:31:04,932 Speaker 19: Well, he's a bound throughout a nightclub and he's basically 1996 01:31:04,973 --> 01:31:09,133 Speaker 19: a hit man for high for anyone really right, Yeah, got, 1997 01:31:09,173 --> 01:31:13,053 Speaker 19: that's another good mister in between is its mate? It's 1998 01:31:13,293 --> 01:31:18,652 Speaker 19: between the good one the list definitely. Yeah, Yeah, horses 1999 01:31:18,652 --> 01:31:19,612 Speaker 19: are one of the greatest thing. 2000 01:31:19,692 --> 01:31:19,852 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2001 01:31:21,133 --> 01:31:24,692 Speaker 2: The box are called slough House and they're thereby mckherron, 2002 01:31:24,772 --> 01:31:26,852 Speaker 2: and then the books are really good. But actually I 2003 01:31:26,933 --> 01:31:29,412 Speaker 2: think the TV show you want to watch the TV 2004 01:31:29,492 --> 01:31:31,532 Speaker 2: show first before you read the box, which. 2005 01:31:31,372 --> 01:31:33,452 Speaker 3: Is normally around the other way. It's huge just because 2006 01:31:33,572 --> 01:31:35,412 Speaker 3: Gary Olman's performance is just so. 2007 01:31:36,053 --> 01:31:38,293 Speaker 19: Good and character. 2008 01:31:38,652 --> 01:31:42,812 Speaker 3: It's crazy Lamb, he's Jackson Lamby. He's a bad man. 2009 01:31:43,133 --> 01:31:44,013 Speaker 3: He's a bad man. 2010 01:31:44,133 --> 01:31:46,372 Speaker 4: I'm just having a look at reviews now far out 2011 01:31:46,492 --> 01:31:51,333 Speaker 4: rave reviews. So that that's great, that's great. 2012 01:31:51,652 --> 01:31:56,372 Speaker 2: We need more bosses like that, right, Sandy. I mean 2013 01:31:56,412 --> 01:31:58,532 Speaker 2: the way I mean anyone that's watched Slow Horses that 2014 01:31:58,652 --> 01:32:00,852 Speaker 2: the way it starts that this is the first shot 2015 01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:05,173 Speaker 2: of the first episode is and he's passed out drunk 2016 01:32:05,213 --> 01:32:08,132 Speaker 2: on it on his desk, and then he wakes himself 2017 01:32:08,213 --> 01:32:09,173 Speaker 2: up by breaking wind. 2018 01:32:09,213 --> 01:32:10,813 Speaker 3: You know, it's classy stuff. 2019 01:32:10,652 --> 01:32:11,013 Speaker 6: Very good. 2020 01:32:11,333 --> 01:32:14,452 Speaker 4: I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 2021 01:32:15,492 --> 01:32:17,972 Speaker 4: Do you binge watch or do you try and wait 2022 01:32:18,652 --> 01:32:21,213 Speaker 4: each week to watch one episode as Matt tries to do. 2023 01:32:21,532 --> 01:32:23,612 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying now. I'm saying that binge 2024 01:32:23,652 --> 01:32:26,013 Speaker 2: watching is a week way to watch television. You're an 2025 01:32:26,053 --> 01:32:29,372 Speaker 2: addict and you're treating TV like a junk food, but 2026 01:32:29,612 --> 01:32:32,053 Speaker 2: like white lotus, at the moment you watch one a 2027 01:32:32,093 --> 01:32:35,412 Speaker 2: week comes out, you discuss your theories with your friends 2028 01:32:35,532 --> 01:32:38,852 Speaker 2: like deep intellectuals at a French cafe, and then it 2029 01:32:38,933 --> 01:32:41,372 Speaker 2: comes out and then you savor it and. 2030 01:32:41,772 --> 01:32:43,773 Speaker 4: Savor it like a fine wine scarcity. 2031 01:32:44,093 --> 01:32:46,772 Speaker 3: It's like Auto Man. When I was a cat, the 2032 01:32:46,853 --> 01:32:49,732 Speaker 3: show only came out once a week on a Friday, 2033 01:32:50,013 --> 01:32:53,412 Speaker 3: and it was so important to me, my base my 2034 01:32:53,572 --> 01:32:54,412 Speaker 3: entire life around it. 2035 01:32:54,612 --> 01:32:56,213 Speaker 4: Right, there's a series I'm going to ask you about 2036 01:32:56,333 --> 01:32:58,093 Speaker 4: very shortly, but keen to hear from you. I eight 2037 01:32:58,213 --> 01:33:00,412 Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to cool. Nine 2038 01:33:00,452 --> 01:33:02,293 Speaker 4: two nine two is the text number. It's twenty three 2039 01:33:02,372 --> 01:33:03,052 Speaker 4: past three. 2040 01:33:07,253 --> 01:33:10,932 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler afternoons. Call oh eight hundred eighty 2041 01:33:11,213 --> 01:33:12,812 Speaker 1: eighty on Youth Talk ZB. 2042 01:33:12,933 --> 01:33:15,133 Speaker 4: Good afternoon, twenty six past three, and we're talking about 2043 01:33:15,173 --> 01:33:18,412 Speaker 4: binge watching a series versus waiting each week to watch 2044 01:33:18,452 --> 01:33:19,173 Speaker 4: an episode. 2045 01:33:20,053 --> 01:33:21,892 Speaker 2: The text here says, when you're talking about a show, 2046 01:33:21,893 --> 01:33:24,892 Speaker 2: could you tell us which platform it's on? And look, 2047 01:33:24,973 --> 01:33:27,532 Speaker 2: I want to share with you something that changed my life. 2048 01:33:28,253 --> 01:33:31,372 Speaker 2: It's this website and app called just Watch, and it's 2049 01:33:31,412 --> 01:33:34,412 Speaker 2: a free service. But you can just go to just 2050 01:33:34,532 --> 01:33:37,372 Speaker 2: watch dot com, or you can go or just downlide 2051 01:33:37,372 --> 01:33:40,492 Speaker 2: the app on your phone and it'll tell you where 2052 01:33:40,572 --> 01:33:42,333 Speaker 2: a show is streaming in New Zealand. 2053 01:33:43,013 --> 01:33:44,372 Speaker 3: So give me give me a. 2054 01:33:44,372 --> 01:33:46,012 Speaker 4: Show Breaking Bad. 2055 01:33:46,372 --> 01:33:49,852 Speaker 2: So Breaking Bad entered in and it'll go boom boom boom, 2056 01:33:49,973 --> 01:33:54,532 Speaker 2: Breaking Bad. It's got five seasons on Neon and or 2057 01:33:54,572 --> 01:33:57,492 Speaker 2: you can buy it. Yeah, so five just tells you 2058 01:33:57,532 --> 01:33:59,532 Speaker 2: it's on Neon is. 2059 01:33:59,532 --> 01:34:00,532 Speaker 4: Good white lotus. 2060 01:34:01,253 --> 01:34:03,532 Speaker 2: There you go and say, because you know, one of 2061 01:34:03,572 --> 01:34:06,492 Speaker 2: the most common conversations that you have is someone going, 2062 01:34:06,692 --> 01:34:07,093 Speaker 2: where is that? 2063 01:34:07,133 --> 01:34:07,812 Speaker 3: Where are you watching that? 2064 01:34:08,333 --> 01:34:10,133 Speaker 2: You'll flick through and you go, I can't remember where 2065 01:34:10,173 --> 01:34:11,692 Speaker 2: did I see this? Was on Disney Plus, it was 2066 01:34:11,692 --> 01:34:12,812 Speaker 2: on Netflix? Where do I see this? 2067 01:34:13,532 --> 01:34:16,772 Speaker 3: Just use just Watch. It's like, honestly, I can't believe 2068 01:34:16,812 --> 01:34:17,532 Speaker 3: the service exists. 2069 01:34:17,652 --> 01:34:18,293 Speaker 4: It's a game change. 2070 01:34:18,293 --> 01:34:19,333 Speaker 3: I don't know why they're getting out of it. 2071 01:34:19,732 --> 01:34:21,652 Speaker 2: I don't know what just Watch is getting out of 2072 01:34:21,692 --> 01:34:23,973 Speaker 2: this whole thing because there's no ads on it. 2073 01:34:24,452 --> 01:34:26,333 Speaker 3: I don't know how it works. Maybe the streaming services 2074 01:34:26,372 --> 01:34:26,732 Speaker 3: pay them. 2075 01:34:26,853 --> 01:34:28,892 Speaker 4: If you're involved in just Watch, give us a buzz. 2076 01:34:29,133 --> 01:34:35,172 Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's got anything that's on Disney, Netflix, Amazon, Neon, Apple, 2077 01:34:35,973 --> 01:34:41,253 Speaker 2: Google YouTube, everything, Netflix, Kids TV, and z Plus. 2078 01:34:41,532 --> 01:34:42,172 Speaker 3: It's incredible. 2079 01:34:42,452 --> 01:34:45,452 Speaker 4: Ah, right, But look at how many streaming sites there are. 2080 01:34:45,692 --> 01:34:48,372 Speaker 4: I mean there's the basics Disney, Netflix, Prime Video, Neon, 2081 01:34:48,652 --> 01:34:52,692 Speaker 4: Apple TV, Google Play, YouTube, Premium, Dot Play, Microsoft, Mobe, 2082 01:34:53,133 --> 01:34:56,812 Speaker 4: m Ubi TV, and z of course Acorn TV far out. 2083 01:34:56,853 --> 01:34:58,612 Speaker 4: There's a lot to choose from these days. 2084 01:34:58,692 --> 01:35:00,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you could bank wrap yourself just by 2085 01:35:01,293 --> 01:35:05,133 Speaker 3: subscribing to all these platforms. Oh eight hundred TV used 2086 01:35:05,133 --> 01:35:05,492 Speaker 3: to be free. 2087 01:35:05,532 --> 01:35:06,933 Speaker 2: You just set too used to what you had to 2088 01:35:06,973 --> 01:35:08,772 Speaker 2: watch ads to pay for it, so it sort of 2089 01:35:08,812 --> 01:35:11,732 Speaker 2: paid for itself or self habituating you're watching it. They 2090 01:35:11,812 --> 01:35:14,053 Speaker 2: made money of you by watching adds. Yeah, they've cut 2091 01:35:14,133 --> 01:35:15,612 Speaker 2: that out now and there you just have to pay. 2092 01:35:18,452 --> 01:35:21,572 Speaker 4: Eighty is the number. Call hello, Sue? How are you? 2093 01:35:23,532 --> 01:35:26,213 Speaker 12: Oh hol Tla today? 2094 01:35:26,333 --> 01:35:26,572 Speaker 17: Sue? 2095 01:35:26,933 --> 01:35:30,253 Speaker 4: Now, you prefer watching them as they come out as 2096 01:35:30,333 --> 01:35:32,812 Speaker 4: and when they drop once a week. You line that 2097 01:35:32,893 --> 01:35:34,133 Speaker 4: up as a bit of an event. 2098 01:35:35,853 --> 01:35:39,333 Speaker 12: Yes, yes, it's I am only on free of you, 2099 01:35:39,612 --> 01:35:43,173 Speaker 12: like a honor of a soldieres. But I'm listening. I 2100 01:35:43,372 --> 01:35:45,972 Speaker 12: think I'm a dollar roots and I'll tell you why. 2101 01:35:49,652 --> 01:35:53,133 Speaker 12: Recently there have been some really really good tramas on 2102 01:35:53,732 --> 01:35:59,892 Speaker 12: TV one surprisingly like for example, Baits versus The post Office, 2103 01:36:01,053 --> 01:36:04,293 Speaker 12: the Locker b one which was on last night. I 2104 01:36:04,412 --> 01:36:08,652 Speaker 12: think the finals next week tonight. Here's one for you eyes, 2105 01:36:10,293 --> 01:36:13,893 Speaker 12: part one of missus Bobberts. So it'll be it'll be 2106 01:36:14,093 --> 01:36:16,293 Speaker 12: tonight and properly next Monday. 2107 01:36:17,293 --> 01:36:20,092 Speaker 3: And then what's what's miss Bobbitt? 2108 01:36:22,253 --> 01:36:22,452 Speaker 19: Well? 2109 01:36:23,013 --> 01:36:26,932 Speaker 12: I think for I think who other half was playing 2110 01:36:26,973 --> 01:36:28,892 Speaker 12: hard the sausage and she cut it off? 2111 01:36:30,333 --> 01:36:35,852 Speaker 3: Well, I see are the famous? Are the famous Bobbit's right? 2112 01:36:38,372 --> 01:36:39,652 Speaker 12: Caro will wait to see that. 2113 01:36:40,812 --> 01:36:42,253 Speaker 3: It's the most one of the most shocking. 2114 01:36:42,492 --> 01:36:46,293 Speaker 4: I'm just reading now John and Lorena Bobbit. That will 2115 01:36:46,372 --> 01:36:47,372 Speaker 4: be a hell of a watch. 2116 01:36:47,412 --> 01:36:49,973 Speaker 3: I remember John Bobbitt. I forgot who I forgot the 2117 01:36:50,013 --> 01:36:52,052 Speaker 3: cut here John. 2118 01:36:52,652 --> 01:36:53,772 Speaker 4: John did survive, didn't he? 2119 01:36:55,572 --> 01:36:59,772 Speaker 3: Things got after that. I think he went into the business. 2120 01:37:00,772 --> 01:37:04,413 Speaker 12: He would have become a monk or something. But Tuesday, 2121 01:37:04,572 --> 01:37:07,772 Speaker 12: the garner's back on him. That's very good. But my 2122 01:37:07,973 --> 01:37:11,972 Speaker 12: other on the dollar its way. I've got a real 2123 01:37:12,133 --> 01:37:16,972 Speaker 12: hankering to watch music, you see, and you've got You've 2124 01:37:17,013 --> 01:37:21,812 Speaker 12: got two excellent channels. You've got Juice TV and Big 2125 01:37:21,893 --> 01:37:25,412 Speaker 12: Worg on free V. And over the weekend I was 2126 01:37:25,492 --> 01:37:31,612 Speaker 12: watching clips like Burne's watching George Sarah good with I 2127 01:37:31,812 --> 01:37:35,293 Speaker 12: Drink a Line and Bear to the Bone, all that 2128 01:37:35,532 --> 01:37:37,772 Speaker 12: type of stuff. They have a lot of blues, they 2129 01:37:37,853 --> 01:37:44,333 Speaker 12: have a lot of they have country, they have you know, 2130 01:37:44,492 --> 01:37:48,092 Speaker 12: the old disco and all. They have all a variety. 2131 01:37:48,732 --> 01:37:52,933 Speaker 12: But on a Saturday night they usually have you know, 2132 01:37:53,333 --> 01:37:56,333 Speaker 12: Saturday Night Fever. You get a lot of the old 2133 01:37:56,572 --> 01:38:00,652 Speaker 12: frow American groups from music Guy, and it's really really 2134 01:38:00,772 --> 01:38:01,532 Speaker 12: worth the watch. 2135 01:38:02,173 --> 01:38:04,572 Speaker 2: So there you guys, Ben's watching music videos. That's what 2136 01:38:04,652 --> 01:38:06,052 Speaker 2: I spent most of my youth doing. 2137 01:38:06,013 --> 01:38:11,052 Speaker 4: Juice TV TV Channel MTV. I mean that was something 2138 01:38:11,133 --> 01:38:12,852 Speaker 4: that you just put on and enjoy the music videos 2139 01:38:12,893 --> 01:38:13,572 Speaker 4: as they popped up. 2140 01:38:14,372 --> 01:38:15,532 Speaker 3: Text tier, Matt. 2141 01:38:15,572 --> 01:38:17,293 Speaker 2: If they drop the whole series of White Loaders and 2142 01:38:17,372 --> 01:38:20,053 Speaker 2: one hit should have you should have the discipline to 2143 01:38:20,093 --> 01:38:23,372 Speaker 2: watch one episode per week. If not, your whole argument 2144 01:38:23,492 --> 01:38:25,213 Speaker 2: is flawed and your viewing habits are at the. 2145 01:38:25,213 --> 01:38:26,333 Speaker 3: Mercy of streaming companies. 2146 01:38:26,412 --> 01:38:27,572 Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you say to that? 2147 01:38:27,973 --> 01:38:30,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, that's what I want to try with my 2148 01:38:30,412 --> 01:38:33,253 Speaker 2: next favorite series. Like I was a big fan of 2149 01:38:33,293 --> 01:38:36,173 Speaker 2: The Strangest Things series yep, so that always gets dumped 2150 01:38:36,173 --> 01:38:38,133 Speaker 2: the whole I believe the whole series gets dumped. 2151 01:38:38,452 --> 01:38:39,692 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's Netflix. 2152 01:38:39,772 --> 01:38:40,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they leave. 2153 01:38:41,333 --> 01:38:43,253 Speaker 2: I think Netflix is moving away from that a little 2154 01:38:43,253 --> 01:38:45,732 Speaker 2: bit now. But yeah, I'm gonna do it. The next 2155 01:38:46,013 --> 01:38:48,093 Speaker 2: series that I really like and they dump the whole lot, 2156 01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:49,692 Speaker 2: I'm just going to watch them week to week just 2157 01:38:49,732 --> 01:38:50,652 Speaker 2: to prove Charlie wrong. 2158 01:38:50,772 --> 01:38:52,133 Speaker 4: How are we going to Are we going to set 2159 01:38:52,213 --> 01:38:53,253 Speaker 4: up a camera in your household? 2160 01:38:53,293 --> 01:38:53,452 Speaker 5: Are we? 2161 01:38:53,572 --> 01:38:54,812 Speaker 3: It's like it's an honesty thing. 2162 01:38:54,893 --> 01:38:57,812 Speaker 4: Yeah, fair enough to Oh one hundred and eighty ten 2163 01:38:57,893 --> 01:38:59,572 Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call. We'll take more of 2164 01:38:59,612 --> 01:39:02,732 Speaker 4: your phone calls very shortly. Headlines with ray Lean coming. 2165 01:39:02,612 --> 01:39:09,612 Speaker 14: Up us talks' be headlines with Blue taxis it's no 2166 01:39:09,812 --> 01:39:13,573 Speaker 14: trouble with a blue bubble. Health New Zealand has unreservedly 2167 01:39:13,692 --> 01:39:17,852 Speaker 14: apologized after a man died of sepsis in Auckland hospital 2168 01:39:18,133 --> 01:39:22,732 Speaker 14: after treatment delays, despite his daughter raising concerns. 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Now back to matt Ethan 2184 01:40:23,333 --> 01:40:24,052 Speaker 14: Tyler Adams. 2185 01:40:24,173 --> 01:40:26,893 Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Raylan, and today we're talking to 2186 01:40:27,173 --> 01:40:31,572 Speaker 4: July from About Health about Element twelve magnesium. Julie, good afternoon, 2187 01:40:32,612 --> 01:40:35,053 Speaker 4: Hi Tyler, how are you doing very good? So, just 2188 01:40:35,213 --> 01:40:37,892 Speaker 4: what are the main benefits people can expect when taking 2189 01:40:38,053 --> 01:40:39,453 Speaker 4: Elements twelve magnesium? 2190 01:40:40,772 --> 01:40:43,732 Speaker 9: Oh? Look, now, magnesium is fantastic for helping people to 2191 01:40:43,812 --> 01:40:46,492 Speaker 9: get a great night's sleep. It's often something that people 2192 01:40:46,532 --> 01:40:49,253 Speaker 9: reach for first. It can help you feel more relaxed, 2193 01:40:49,652 --> 01:40:52,812 Speaker 9: ease muscle cramps, and generally feel better. A lot of 2194 01:40:52,853 --> 01:40:55,852 Speaker 9: our listeners, Tyler might already know that our Element wive 2195 01:40:56,013 --> 01:40:58,852 Speaker 9: uses three forms of magnesium that the body can absorb 2196 01:40:58,973 --> 01:41:01,973 Speaker 9: and use. Plus we've got other great supporting nutrients in 2197 01:41:02,013 --> 01:41:05,372 Speaker 9: there too. And now, after listening to our customers feedback, 2198 01:41:05,452 --> 01:41:08,213 Speaker 9: we have made the capsules smaller so that they are 2199 01:41:08,412 --> 01:41:10,932 Speaker 9: a lot easier to take. So it's still the same 2200 01:41:11,013 --> 01:41:13,532 Speaker 9: great formulation that people know and love, but in much 2201 01:41:13,692 --> 01:41:16,652 Speaker 9: nicer size capsules. You only take two a day, so 2202 01:41:16,853 --> 01:41:18,132 Speaker 9: you know they're still pretty convenient. 2203 01:41:18,173 --> 01:41:20,253 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, very convenient. That does sound like a 2204 01:41:20,333 --> 01:41:23,492 Speaker 4: great change for your customers. And of course you've got 2205 01:41:23,572 --> 01:41:27,173 Speaker 4: some great feedback about how element twelve magnesium is helping people, 2206 01:41:27,253 --> 01:41:27,532 Speaker 4: don't you. 2207 01:41:28,692 --> 01:41:31,372 Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got some lovely feedback like this from Melissa 2208 01:41:31,372 --> 01:41:34,133 Speaker 9: who tells us this product is amazing and I have 2209 01:41:34,333 --> 01:41:37,253 Speaker 9: never had such fulfilled sleep. This is the only thing 2210 01:41:37,333 --> 01:41:39,812 Speaker 9: that has ever worked. There is a noticeable difference to 2211 01:41:39,933 --> 01:41:43,173 Speaker 9: my energy and stress is greatly reduced. I feel great. 2212 01:41:43,772 --> 01:41:46,572 Speaker 4: That is awesome feedback. And have you got a special 2213 01:41:46,692 --> 01:41:48,253 Speaker 4: for our listeners today, Julie. 2214 01:41:48,933 --> 01:41:49,492 Speaker 14: I sure do. 2215 01:41:49,652 --> 01:41:53,253 Speaker 9: Tyler. If you're listening and you're suffering from pesky muscle twitches, 2216 01:41:53,412 --> 01:41:55,492 Speaker 9: or maybe you need some help with your sleep and 2217 01:41:55,692 --> 01:41:59,092 Speaker 9: support for stress, then call us now on eight hundred 2218 01:41:59,253 --> 01:42:01,812 Speaker 9: triple nine three h nine all to yourself a three 2219 01:42:01,893 --> 01:42:04,932 Speaker 9: month supply of the element twelve magnesium. Use the code 2220 01:42:05,093 --> 01:42:07,093 Speaker 9: zen beat the checkout and you will get for free 2221 01:42:07,173 --> 01:42:10,452 Speaker 9: a one month supply of Nightcap that's very good at 2222 01:42:10,492 --> 01:42:12,893 Speaker 9: forty nine ninety five yours free when you use the 2223 01:42:12,933 --> 01:42:16,253 Speaker 9: code ZEDB that number once again, Oh, eight hundred triple 2224 01:42:16,333 --> 01:42:18,532 Speaker 9: nine three h nine. We'll hit to the website about 2225 01:42:18,612 --> 01:42:21,972 Speaker 9: health dot co dot in zed and as always, remember 2226 01:42:22,013 --> 01:42:24,532 Speaker 9: to read those labels and take only as directed about 2227 01:42:24,572 --> 01:42:25,532 Speaker 9: health Auckland. 2228 01:42:25,333 --> 01:42:28,253 Speaker 4: Brilliant, fantastic deal. Thank you very much, Julie. We'll chat 2229 01:42:28,293 --> 01:42:28,692 Speaker 4: again soon. 2230 01:42:29,612 --> 01:42:29,852 Speaker 9: Thanks. 2231 01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:30,133 Speaker 3: Tyler. 2232 01:42:30,333 --> 01:42:33,372 Speaker 5: It's Mattie than Tyler Adams, and. 2233 01:42:33,452 --> 01:42:36,892 Speaker 4: We are talking about binge watching a series versus watching 2234 01:42:37,013 --> 01:42:40,892 Speaker 4: one episode a week. Netflix has been notorious about dropping 2235 01:42:40,933 --> 01:42:43,532 Speaker 4: the whole season at once, so you can binge to 2236 01:42:43,652 --> 01:42:46,572 Speaker 4: your heart's content. But matt you're making a pretty strong 2237 01:42:46,652 --> 01:42:50,093 Speaker 4: argument now that you should be waiting each week to 2238 01:42:50,173 --> 01:42:54,612 Speaker 4: watch one episode rather than just binge watch the whole lot. 2239 01:42:54,933 --> 01:42:55,133 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2240 01:42:55,133 --> 01:42:57,293 Speaker 2: I think be binge watching is just a weak way 2241 01:42:57,372 --> 01:43:00,053 Speaker 2: you can't control your addiction, just going deep into the 2242 01:43:00,133 --> 01:43:02,772 Speaker 2: night this show after show, whereas the way I watch 2243 01:43:02,853 --> 01:43:04,052 Speaker 2: TV shows now is much. 2244 01:43:03,973 --> 01:43:06,533 Speaker 4: More honorable, like to like sipping a fine wine. 2245 01:43:06,532 --> 01:43:08,852 Speaker 2: And savoring it and discussing it over week. If it's 2246 01:43:08,893 --> 01:43:12,293 Speaker 2: good enough, it'll it'll, it'll wait. Yeah, okay, this is 2247 01:43:12,452 --> 01:43:14,612 Speaker 2: This is a touching text that's come through on nine too. 2248 01:43:14,933 --> 01:43:17,133 Speaker 2: My good friend tragically lost her husband almost two years 2249 01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:19,692 Speaker 2: ago and no children. After about a month, I suggested 2250 01:43:19,732 --> 01:43:21,932 Speaker 2: we watch two episodes of a series each week together 2251 01:43:22,013 --> 01:43:23,932 Speaker 2: at hers. A great way to check up on her 2252 01:43:23,973 --> 01:43:27,012 Speaker 2: and keeping her company. Been doing it ever since every Tuesday. 2253 01:43:27,133 --> 01:43:28,732 Speaker 3: We love it. That's that's beautiful. 2254 01:43:28,812 --> 01:43:29,452 Speaker 4: That is nice. 2255 01:43:29,612 --> 01:43:31,133 Speaker 3: That is beautiful. Good on you. 2256 01:43:31,692 --> 01:43:33,412 Speaker 4: Keep those teats coming through on nine two, nine to two. 2257 01:43:33,532 --> 01:43:37,013 Speaker 4: Just before we get to Peter as well, Mum, just 2258 01:43:37,053 --> 01:43:41,052 Speaker 4: text your mum, Yeah, mom, Yeah, Hello momsy Hello, Jessus 2259 01:43:41,093 --> 01:43:43,612 Speaker 4: tyler z. You can call a chezer. Shares shares are 2260 01:43:43,652 --> 01:43:47,572 Speaker 4: Adams and she shares her Adams Adams and she just 2261 01:43:47,652 --> 01:43:51,053 Speaker 4: tacks and says, our favorite show is Slow Horses. Tell 2262 01:43:51,093 --> 01:43:53,293 Speaker 4: Matt he's got good taste you. I thank you, shaz 2263 01:43:53,492 --> 01:43:54,772 Speaker 4: And I'm just going to text back and say no 2264 01:43:54,853 --> 01:43:59,612 Speaker 4: he doesn't. Oh hundred eighty eight the number. 2265 01:43:59,372 --> 01:44:03,692 Speaker 3: Two you've we've brought up an okay, son, he's all right, 2266 01:44:04,372 --> 01:44:05,253 Speaker 3: he's okay. 2267 01:44:05,293 --> 01:44:08,652 Speaker 4: All right, he's not bad. Yeah, he's getting there. Two 2268 01:44:08,772 --> 01:44:12,652 Speaker 4: nine two is the text number. Yeah, some great texts 2269 01:44:12,692 --> 01:44:14,492 Speaker 4: coming through, but Peter, good afternoon to you. 2270 01:44:16,013 --> 01:44:21,253 Speaker 20: Absolute hey. Matt named the TV program on a scale 2271 01:44:21,253 --> 01:44:24,333 Speaker 20: of one to tenise me as an eleven. 2272 01:44:25,572 --> 01:44:26,692 Speaker 3: What's that say that again? 2273 01:44:26,732 --> 01:44:26,932 Speaker 4: Sorry? 2274 01:44:27,812 --> 01:44:30,293 Speaker 20: On a scale of one to ten think of me 2275 01:44:30,452 --> 01:44:31,252 Speaker 20: as an eleven. 2276 01:44:31,692 --> 01:44:34,572 Speaker 4: Oh right, okay, right, so you are the finest one 2277 01:44:34,612 --> 01:44:35,932 Speaker 4: of the more Peter. Is that what you're saying? 2278 01:44:37,333 --> 01:44:39,692 Speaker 20: Oh yeah, yeah, he just mentioned the name earlier, but 2279 01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:43,213 Speaker 20: it's from Auto Man. 2280 01:44:43,893 --> 01:44:48,293 Speaker 2: Oh yes, a man, we're going back a long way 2281 01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:50,532 Speaker 2: there part. Pardon me for forgetting that one. I was 2282 01:44:50,572 --> 01:44:51,213 Speaker 2: a small child. 2283 01:44:53,013 --> 01:44:55,772 Speaker 20: Ten extra points. What was the car he used? 2284 01:44:56,853 --> 01:44:58,412 Speaker 2: I know, I know that it could change into it 2285 01:44:58,492 --> 01:45:02,652 Speaker 2: could turn right angles and I know that I know, 2286 01:45:03,213 --> 01:45:04,973 Speaker 2: I know his assistant was Cursor. 2287 01:45:06,053 --> 01:45:09,892 Speaker 20: Yeah, Lamborghini comtash yea yeah, yeah yeah, it wasn't yeah yeah, 2288 01:45:10,053 --> 01:45:10,893 Speaker 20: what type of carra was? 2289 01:45:10,893 --> 01:45:12,772 Speaker 2: I thought I had a name, yeah, back back in 2290 01:45:12,812 --> 01:45:17,812 Speaker 2: those days. And it could turn into a helicopter when 2291 01:45:18,093 --> 01:45:22,333 Speaker 2: he wanted it to Auto Man then Grand Drake. 2292 01:45:23,213 --> 01:45:26,612 Speaker 20: So yeah, I just now Grant Drake to watch Tales 2293 01:45:26,652 --> 01:45:27,612 Speaker 20: of the Gold Monkeys. 2294 01:45:29,133 --> 01:45:31,532 Speaker 2: I used to love that show. There was like an 2295 01:45:31,572 --> 01:45:34,492 Speaker 2: Indiana Jones. So this is deep and deepen with a memory. 2296 01:45:34,492 --> 01:45:36,013 Speaker 2: I can't quite remember it, but was that kind of 2297 01:45:36,013 --> 01:45:36,932 Speaker 2: like Indiana Jones? 2298 01:45:38,053 --> 01:45:42,013 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know why. 2299 01:45:42,093 --> 01:45:44,732 Speaker 20: The monkeys were all like our planet of the Ape, 2300 01:45:45,213 --> 01:45:48,932 Speaker 20: but they had wear more heads and it was really crazy, 2301 01:45:49,013 --> 01:45:49,852 Speaker 20: but it was still cool. 2302 01:45:50,333 --> 01:45:53,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of the theme tongue Auto Man. 2303 01:45:53,933 --> 01:45:55,333 Speaker 2: This would be really boring for people that don't know 2304 01:45:55,372 --> 01:45:57,732 Speaker 2: Auto Man. Auto Man was like a tron ripoff that 2305 01:45:57,853 --> 01:46:02,013 Speaker 2: he came out of the computer. Didn't know that's my guy. 2306 01:46:02,492 --> 01:46:06,013 Speaker 2: Sorry I'm forgetting it there, but hey, thank you for 2307 01:46:06,093 --> 01:46:09,732 Speaker 2: that walk down memory, Peter. Back then, Peter, you had 2308 01:46:09,772 --> 01:46:11,972 Speaker 2: to wait. You had to wait a week for Tales 2309 01:46:12,013 --> 01:46:13,933 Speaker 2: of the Basket God Monkey. You'd have to wait a 2310 01:46:13,973 --> 01:46:15,452 Speaker 2: week for the next episode, that's for sure. 2311 01:46:16,293 --> 01:46:16,572 Speaker 9: I know. 2312 01:46:17,093 --> 01:46:20,333 Speaker 20: I wait for the whole series to drop and then 2313 01:46:20,372 --> 01:46:24,692 Speaker 20: I watch episode every night. But if it was The 2314 01:46:24,893 --> 01:46:28,052 Speaker 20: Terminal List, it's supposed to watch like a big movie 2315 01:46:28,133 --> 01:46:32,372 Speaker 20: because every show connect to the next one. So I 2316 01:46:32,532 --> 01:46:34,173 Speaker 20: just found a lot easier to do it that way. 2317 01:46:34,933 --> 01:46:37,173 Speaker 4: The Terminal List. Oh that was the one with Chris Pratt? 2318 01:46:37,253 --> 01:46:37,652 Speaker 10: Is that right? 2319 01:46:38,492 --> 01:46:38,692 Speaker 9: Yeah? 2320 01:46:39,093 --> 01:46:39,293 Speaker 10: Yeah? 2321 01:46:40,412 --> 01:46:42,013 Speaker 4: And so what was that that was on? That was 2322 01:46:42,053 --> 01:46:42,532 Speaker 4: on Amazon? 2323 01:46:42,652 --> 01:46:43,253 Speaker 3: Was that on Prime? 2324 01:46:45,452 --> 01:46:48,372 Speaker 20: Amazon? Prime Video? 2325 01:46:49,692 --> 01:46:54,132 Speaker 3: So that's about a few years ago this came out, right, Yeah. 2326 01:46:54,253 --> 01:46:58,492 Speaker 20: Brilliant, good book too, like follows are quite closely and yeah, 2327 01:46:58,652 --> 01:47:04,253 Speaker 20: to me, supposed to be making a prequel on l 2328 01:47:04,333 --> 01:47:05,572 Speaker 20: but very cool series. 2329 01:47:07,572 --> 01:47:10,852 Speaker 4: So similar to a blacklist? Is it that it kind 2330 01:47:10,893 --> 01:47:14,893 Speaker 4: of links in? Well, all series linked together, arguably, But 2331 01:47:15,013 --> 01:47:18,652 Speaker 4: you know there's there's a natural progression that you can't 2332 01:47:18,692 --> 01:47:19,452 Speaker 4: help with binge watch. 2333 01:47:20,612 --> 01:47:23,133 Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, you have that. And it's nothing worse than 2334 01:47:23,213 --> 01:47:26,492 Speaker 20: the show finishing to be continued. I know we haven't 2335 01:47:26,612 --> 01:47:29,373 Speaker 20: used to see note words on a show to be continued. 2336 01:47:32,933 --> 01:47:35,133 Speaker 20: But I just have to watch it straight away. And 2337 01:47:35,532 --> 01:47:38,532 Speaker 20: I said, I've just finished watching all three seasons of 2338 01:47:38,612 --> 01:47:41,692 Speaker 20: The Rocky and I just watched the show every night 2339 01:47:41,973 --> 01:47:45,572 Speaker 20: and it was awesome. It was good show. 2340 01:47:46,013 --> 01:47:46,173 Speaker 4: You know. 2341 01:47:46,293 --> 01:47:46,772 Speaker 3: The worst thing. 2342 01:47:46,893 --> 01:47:48,372 Speaker 2: The worst thing is is when you get like a 2343 01:47:48,452 --> 01:47:51,732 Speaker 2: show like Chaos, which was on Netflix about sort of 2344 01:47:51,812 --> 01:47:55,253 Speaker 2: modern Greek gods, and it's only just entertaining enough to 2345 01:47:55,333 --> 01:47:57,772 Speaker 2: keep you going, and you watch it all the way 2346 01:47:57,812 --> 01:47:59,572 Speaker 2: through and then it gets to the end on a 2347 01:47:59,612 --> 01:48:01,852 Speaker 2: cliffhanger and then they cancel the show awful, So you 2348 01:48:02,013 --> 01:48:04,333 Speaker 2: just feel like you've wasted so much of your life. 2349 01:48:04,732 --> 01:48:07,012 Speaker 2: It was only just good enough to keep watching because 2350 01:48:07,053 --> 01:48:08,253 Speaker 2: Jeff Goblin was so good in it. 2351 01:48:08,452 --> 01:48:11,612 Speaker 4: Yeah, whoever does that, whatever executive makes that called taser, 2352 01:48:11,933 --> 01:48:13,892 Speaker 4: get a taser if you're going to cut that after 2353 01:48:13,973 --> 01:48:14,532 Speaker 4: one season. 2354 01:48:14,652 --> 01:48:16,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, make a season. 2355 01:48:16,652 --> 01:48:18,933 Speaker 2: Should be a complete series so it can sit in 2356 01:48:19,013 --> 01:48:21,372 Speaker 2: its own right like great shows like The Wire. 2357 01:48:21,452 --> 01:48:24,452 Speaker 4: Yeah, give the writers a chance to tell their full story. Peter, 2358 01:48:24,732 --> 01:48:29,412 Speaker 4: thank you very much for your cheers. Mate, some great 2359 01:48:29,492 --> 01:48:31,772 Speaker 4: texts coming through on nine two, nine to two, Matt, 2360 01:48:32,612 --> 01:48:35,173 Speaker 4: please no spoilers for The White Lotus. Still a couple 2361 01:48:35,213 --> 01:48:38,612 Speaker 4: of installments behind. Absolutely love it and like you, I 2362 01:48:38,732 --> 01:48:41,333 Speaker 4: wait each week to watch an episode because I have to. 2363 01:48:41,692 --> 01:48:44,572 Speaker 3: Well, lucky, nothing's really happened yet, and Matt can watch 2364 01:48:44,612 --> 01:48:46,732 Speaker 3: anything he wants. But he doesn't get to dictate how 2365 01:48:46,772 --> 01:48:49,093 Speaker 3: we all watch streaming services. I've binge watched because I 2366 01:48:49,692 --> 01:48:52,532 Speaker 3: love alone and work alone. I don't have friends, so 2367 01:48:52,612 --> 01:48:55,932 Speaker 3: binge watching is great for me. Yeah, that is correct, 2368 01:48:56,293 --> 01:48:59,452 Speaker 3: and I'm sorry for you for that, but it binge. 2369 01:48:59,213 --> 01:49:00,852 Speaker 2: Watching weeks for you. But yeah, I don't You're right, 2370 01:49:00,933 --> 01:49:03,012 Speaker 2: I don't get to dictate what you watch. I don't 2371 01:49:03,053 --> 01:49:03,732 Speaker 2: have those powers. 2372 01:49:04,973 --> 01:49:06,973 Speaker 4: Did you want them? You just don't have them? 2373 01:49:06,973 --> 01:49:07,372 Speaker 3: I want them? 2374 01:49:07,492 --> 01:49:10,293 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want you. I want them. I had one 2375 01:49:10,372 --> 01:49:11,892 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call 2376 01:49:11,973 --> 01:49:14,372 Speaker 4: nineteen nineties, the text number sixteen to four. 2377 01:49:15,053 --> 01:49:18,853 Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talkback Matt and Taylor Afternoons 2378 01:49:18,973 --> 01:49:22,892 Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special. 2379 01:49:23,093 --> 01:49:25,692 Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty 2380 01:49:25,853 --> 01:49:26,732 Speaker 1: news Talks, there'd. 2381 01:49:26,612 --> 01:49:31,013 Speaker 4: Be news talks. It'd be binge watching versus waiting each 2382 01:49:31,093 --> 01:49:33,652 Speaker 4: week for the episode to air. I wan one hundred 2383 01:49:33,692 --> 01:49:36,932 Speaker 4: eighty ten Eightyes, a number to call get a Brian today. 2384 01:49:36,973 --> 01:49:38,133 Speaker 22: G good. 2385 01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:40,732 Speaker 3: Thanks. You're a hard working dairy farmer. I understand. 2386 01:49:41,933 --> 01:49:44,492 Speaker 21: I am indeed, I am indeed, I get up at 2387 01:49:44,532 --> 01:49:47,572 Speaker 21: four every morning, and I've got a young family and 2388 01:49:48,973 --> 01:49:55,812 Speaker 21: we we my kids loved the extracurricular activities, and yeah, 2389 01:49:55,853 --> 01:49:58,732 Speaker 21: I decided to very cently buy the textcause I think 2390 01:49:59,093 --> 01:50:04,053 Speaker 21: anyone who has time to binge watch anything really, they 2391 01:50:04,133 --> 01:50:07,492 Speaker 21: obviously don't or have too much time on the hounds 2392 01:50:07,532 --> 01:50:08,053 Speaker 21: and A probably a. 2393 01:50:08,013 --> 01:50:09,772 Speaker 4: Bit like it's a fairpoint. 2394 01:50:09,973 --> 01:50:12,612 Speaker 2: So, yeah, Brian, you don't have time to watch ten 2395 01:50:12,812 --> 01:50:15,692 Speaker 2: episodes of Married at First Sight in the row before 2396 01:50:15,853 --> 01:50:17,372 Speaker 2: before you drop off to sleep. Do you? 2397 01:50:18,372 --> 01:50:22,572 Speaker 21: You just made me vomit mate talking about married with 2398 01:50:22,692 --> 01:50:23,213 Speaker 21: best site. 2399 01:50:25,853 --> 01:50:28,652 Speaker 2: So when you say extracurricular activities, are you guys getting 2400 01:50:28,692 --> 01:50:30,133 Speaker 2: out and about. 2401 01:50:30,013 --> 01:50:34,132 Speaker 21: And what are you doing cricket, My daughter rides a horse. 2402 01:50:35,253 --> 01:50:39,852 Speaker 21: My boy also does triathlons. So yeah, just just just 2403 01:50:40,013 --> 01:50:41,933 Speaker 21: all those things that you just want your kids to 2404 01:50:41,973 --> 01:50:44,333 Speaker 21: get out and do and experience. 2405 01:50:43,973 --> 01:50:44,892 Speaker 5: Life really awesome. 2406 01:50:45,053 --> 01:50:45,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way it should be. 2407 01:50:46,093 --> 01:50:48,812 Speaker 4: What about Clarson's Farm though, Brian, you're a hard working farmer. 2408 01:50:48,853 --> 01:50:51,932 Speaker 4: Clarkson's Farms a great series related to your industry. Surely 2409 01:50:52,013 --> 01:50:53,812 Speaker 4: you'd watch a couple of episodes back to back on 2410 01:50:53,893 --> 01:50:54,213 Speaker 4: that one. 2411 01:50:55,133 --> 01:50:57,973 Speaker 21: I must admit I'm a big clarks and can as 2412 01:50:58,053 --> 01:51:00,372 Speaker 21: far as from his old days in the Top year 2413 01:51:00,412 --> 01:51:04,932 Speaker 21: and so forth. And I wanted to watch sharks and Farm, 2414 01:51:05,013 --> 01:51:07,652 Speaker 21: but it's not Amazon Prime and we've got me eflect 2415 01:51:07,692 --> 01:51:11,412 Speaker 21: and we'll drop well do pass. I mean, I just 2416 01:51:11,492 --> 01:51:13,973 Speaker 21: can't can't bring myself to bloody well sign up to 2417 01:51:14,013 --> 01:51:15,172 Speaker 21: another one of these bullshit. 2418 01:51:17,013 --> 01:51:17,213 Speaker 12: I was. 2419 01:51:17,293 --> 01:51:18,733 Speaker 3: I've been thinking about that because. 2420 01:51:19,452 --> 01:51:21,212 Speaker 4: You're great, You're very logical. 2421 01:51:21,772 --> 01:51:26,213 Speaker 2: That's that's that's that's fine. But yeah, so I've wondered 2422 01:51:26,213 --> 01:51:27,572 Speaker 2: about that because I love it. You know, I grew 2423 01:51:27,612 --> 01:51:29,812 Speaker 2: up on a farm. But but so so when I'm 2424 01:51:29,812 --> 01:51:32,492 Speaker 2: watching Clarkson's Farm, I feel very just it's like being hugged. 2425 01:51:34,253 --> 01:51:35,692 Speaker 2: I just love the feeling of it. But I wonder 2426 01:51:35,732 --> 01:51:37,452 Speaker 2: if you're if you're getting up at four am the 2427 01:51:37,532 --> 01:51:41,412 Speaker 2: next morning to milk the cows, do you want to 2428 01:51:41,532 --> 01:51:44,213 Speaker 2: like watch two episodes of Clarkson's Farm before you go 2429 01:51:44,293 --> 01:51:45,852 Speaker 2: to bed and see someone doing it badly? 2430 01:51:46,293 --> 01:51:52,692 Speaker 21: I know, I've seen a few shorts that my son's 2431 01:51:52,732 --> 01:51:54,932 Speaker 21: shown me on on YouTube and stuff, and it looks 2432 01:51:54,973 --> 01:51:58,333 Speaker 21: like a laugh. I will watch the on the episode, 2433 01:51:58,372 --> 01:52:02,173 Speaker 21: but it would never be a bringe watch, that's for sure. 2434 01:52:02,372 --> 01:52:03,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what it does is I think it gives 2435 01:52:03,933 --> 01:52:06,852 Speaker 2: people an appreciation of how hard it is to farm, 2436 01:52:07,013 --> 01:52:10,173 Speaker 2: and how crazy regulation are making it even harder, and 2437 01:52:10,333 --> 01:52:13,412 Speaker 2: just the lot of farmers is a lot more intense 2438 01:52:13,492 --> 01:52:16,333 Speaker 2: than people people know. But you say, you've got some streamers, 2439 01:52:16,452 --> 01:52:20,812 Speaker 2: so you're like me, you watch one episode, that's your entertainment. 2440 01:52:20,933 --> 01:52:24,173 Speaker 21: That's fine, you know, that's me and my wife might 2441 01:52:24,213 --> 01:52:26,692 Speaker 21: sit down between nine and ten watch that and then 2442 01:52:27,333 --> 01:52:29,012 Speaker 21: I've got to be and try try and be asleep 2443 01:52:29,093 --> 01:52:31,492 Speaker 21: by at ten o'clock. Get at least sixers. 2444 01:52:31,652 --> 01:52:32,732 Speaker 4: You're the best of us, Brian. 2445 01:52:32,853 --> 01:52:34,932 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you keep up with good work and thank 2446 01:52:34,933 --> 01:52:37,172 Speaker 2: you if you call, and congratulations and having such a wholesome, 2447 01:52:37,253 --> 01:52:37,932 Speaker 2: active family. 2448 01:52:37,973 --> 01:52:38,372 Speaker 5: I love that. 2449 01:52:39,812 --> 01:52:40,213 Speaker 21: Good guys. 2450 01:52:40,372 --> 01:52:42,972 Speaker 4: Cheers, cheers Brian, what a great man that is. Yeah, 2451 01:52:43,133 --> 01:52:44,692 Speaker 4: see an hour at the end of the day to 2452 01:52:44,772 --> 01:52:47,812 Speaker 4: watch a bit of Telly. I mean that is wholesome 2453 01:52:48,053 --> 01:52:50,692 Speaker 4: and probably a good use of time. I can't say 2454 01:52:50,692 --> 01:52:52,732 Speaker 4: I've been that way for many, many, many years. 2455 01:52:52,893 --> 01:52:55,173 Speaker 2: The vegetative state that you get in when you're just 2456 01:52:55,452 --> 01:52:57,852 Speaker 2: sitting there in the dark in front of your laptop 2457 01:52:57,933 --> 01:53:00,812 Speaker 2: and bed with your partner, just watching episode after episode 2458 01:53:00,853 --> 01:53:02,612 Speaker 2: and then the third episode, should we watch one more? 2459 01:53:02,612 --> 01:53:05,732 Speaker 2: Because you're addicted by the cliff hanger, because Netflix and 2460 01:53:05,732 --> 01:53:07,652 Speaker 2: the streaming services know if they put like a half 2461 01:53:07,732 --> 01:53:10,173 Speaker 2: assed cliff on the end of one show you then 2462 01:53:10,213 --> 01:53:12,372 Speaker 2: you'll start playing the next one, and the algorithm starts 2463 01:53:12,412 --> 01:53:12,932 Speaker 2: counting down. 2464 01:53:12,973 --> 01:53:13,492 Speaker 3: It goes. 2465 01:53:14,933 --> 01:53:18,452 Speaker 2: Next episode and ten seconds or five seconds, you go, okay, 2466 01:53:18,532 --> 01:53:22,293 Speaker 2: just one more, and meanwhile your life slowly being sucked 2467 01:53:22,333 --> 01:53:23,652 Speaker 2: out of you. And by the time you get to 2468 01:53:23,692 --> 01:53:26,173 Speaker 2: the end of these series, generally they're disappointing. Yeah, that's 2469 01:53:26,213 --> 01:53:29,372 Speaker 2: why I say, white lotus once a week, let's go. 2470 01:53:29,572 --> 01:53:32,253 Speaker 4: That's all you need, nicely said, and there is nine 2471 01:53:32,412 --> 01:53:34,572 Speaker 4: to four beg very shortly here on news talks b 2472 01:53:35,013 --> 01:53:35,452 Speaker 4: up nixt. 2473 01:53:36,133 --> 01:53:39,532 Speaker 2: I'll share the top five shows that I would binge 2474 01:53:39,612 --> 01:53:41,772 Speaker 2: watch and have my soul sucked out of me to 2475 01:53:41,853 --> 01:53:42,492 Speaker 2: watch overnight. 2476 01:53:42,532 --> 01:53:46,532 Speaker 4: All Right, it's gonna be good. It is nine to four, the. 2477 01:53:46,692 --> 01:53:50,612 Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and everything 2478 01:53:50,652 --> 01:53:51,132 Speaker 1: in between. 2479 01:53:51,452 --> 01:53:53,173 Speaker 5: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with. 2480 01:53:53,253 --> 01:53:56,772 Speaker 1: The Volvo XC ninety, attention to detail and a commitment 2481 01:53:56,812 --> 01:54:00,733 Speaker 1: to comfort, news talgs, EDB on news Dogs. 2482 01:54:00,492 --> 01:54:04,413 Speaker 4: EDB binge watching or waiting weekly for your favorite episode. 2483 01:54:04,532 --> 01:54:07,492 Speaker 4: That's what we're talking about. Get a clive, How are 2484 01:54:07,532 --> 01:54:08,213 Speaker 4: you good? 2485 01:54:08,412 --> 01:54:08,973 Speaker 10: What is it for you? 2486 01:54:09,093 --> 01:54:14,652 Speaker 4: Mate? Land Man? Oh, I've heard good things about land Man. 2487 01:54:14,692 --> 01:54:17,452 Speaker 4: Who's the main the main character in that the actor. 2488 01:54:18,532 --> 01:54:21,093 Speaker 11: So Billy Bob Sort and it's unbelievable. 2489 01:54:21,173 --> 01:54:23,532 Speaker 6: I can't get enough of it. It's it's great. 2490 01:54:24,173 --> 01:54:27,253 Speaker 4: Yeah, Billy Bob is phenomenal. We everything I've seen and 2491 01:54:27,372 --> 01:54:30,213 Speaker 4: it is just amazing. And so what's the general gist 2492 01:54:30,253 --> 01:54:31,333 Speaker 4: of the show is about oil? 2493 01:54:32,772 --> 01:54:35,533 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all about oil, but it's it's basically the 2494 01:54:35,693 --> 01:54:36,772 Speaker 6: character that he plays. 2495 01:54:36,853 --> 01:54:39,973 Speaker 20: He's just no no holds bar and it's just he 2496 01:54:40,133 --> 01:54:41,733 Speaker 20: speaks his mind is what he wants. 2497 01:54:42,213 --> 01:54:44,533 Speaker 11: The characters in it are absolutely fantastic. 2498 01:54:44,733 --> 01:54:45,573 Speaker 15: It's great. 2499 01:54:45,613 --> 01:54:45,973 Speaker 20: I love it. 2500 01:54:46,293 --> 01:54:48,333 Speaker 3: Are you binge watching that? Are you're watching an episode 2501 01:54:48,373 --> 01:54:48,613 Speaker 3: a week? 2502 01:54:49,973 --> 01:54:50,333 Speaker 5: Oh no? 2503 01:54:50,693 --> 01:54:53,253 Speaker 21: If it's on and I'm awake cold watch it. 2504 01:54:53,413 --> 01:54:53,613 Speaker 19: Yeah. 2505 01:54:54,733 --> 01:54:58,733 Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's talking about and apparently there's been some messive 2506 01:54:58,733 --> 01:55:00,373 Speaker 4: cliffhangers on it. So if you have to wait each 2507 01:55:00,413 --> 01:55:02,333 Speaker 4: week to wait for the new episode, it can. 2508 01:55:02,213 --> 01:55:03,613 Speaker 3: Be stronger than that. 2509 01:55:03,812 --> 01:55:04,293 Speaker 10: Yeah it. 2510 01:55:04,373 --> 01:55:06,613 Speaker 2: You just got to hold off that desire and don't 2511 01:55:06,653 --> 01:55:08,852 Speaker 2: be played by the streamers. Okay, I've got if I 2512 01:55:08,973 --> 01:55:10,892 Speaker 2: was going to binge watch, these are the five top 2513 01:55:10,973 --> 01:55:13,772 Speaker 2: five most bingeble shows of all time if you ask me, 2514 01:55:13,933 --> 01:55:16,453 Speaker 2: all right, yep again, number five, Slow Horses. We're talking 2515 01:55:16,453 --> 01:55:17,253 Speaker 2: about it before an apple. 2516 01:55:17,293 --> 01:55:18,972 Speaker 3: Your mum loves it. She has a lot of reviews 2517 01:55:19,693 --> 01:55:21,253 Speaker 3: on four Sopranos, one of the. 2518 01:55:21,253 --> 01:55:22,772 Speaker 2: Greatest shows of all time. You can see that on 2519 01:55:22,893 --> 01:55:24,333 Speaker 2: neonep Ship's Creep. 2520 01:55:24,413 --> 01:55:27,772 Speaker 4: If you watched that, my mave loves it, loves it. 2521 01:55:27,812 --> 01:55:29,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on Netflix. Shit screaks. Go back to the 2522 01:55:30,013 --> 01:55:33,133 Speaker 3: first binge watch show of all time, The Wire. You 2523 01:55:33,213 --> 01:55:33,733 Speaker 3: watch The Wire? 2524 01:55:33,853 --> 01:55:34,013 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2525 01:55:34,133 --> 01:55:36,453 Speaker 4: Great show boy? Oh boy, the hell out of there. 2526 01:55:36,573 --> 01:55:38,533 Speaker 2: That's the hell show. It's like such a great show. 2527 01:55:38,533 --> 01:55:40,413 Speaker 2: I think it's nineteen ninety nine. It's so old now, 2528 01:55:40,453 --> 01:55:43,173 Speaker 2: but it's brilliant. That's also on Neon, and of course 2529 01:55:43,653 --> 01:55:47,453 Speaker 2: everyone's favorite, the mighty Breaking Bad Good. 2530 01:55:47,613 --> 01:55:49,253 Speaker 3: If I was going to binge wat shows, they would 2531 01:55:49,253 --> 01:55:49,533 Speaker 3: be the ones. 2532 01:55:49,653 --> 01:55:49,812 Speaker 10: Yeah. 2533 01:55:49,853 --> 01:55:51,933 Speaker 4: I was a late coming to Breaking Bad Hints, and 2534 01:55:52,173 --> 01:55:54,693 Speaker 4: I think I got into it with five seasons to watch. 2535 01:55:54,933 --> 01:55:56,573 Speaker 4: Smash them out in about two weeks and I was 2536 01:55:56,613 --> 01:55:58,413 Speaker 4: a shell of a man. But boy, oh boy, what 2537 01:55:58,493 --> 01:55:58,772 Speaker 4: a time. 2538 01:55:58,973 --> 01:56:02,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're looking down a barrel of a lot of emotions, 2539 01:56:02,093 --> 01:56:03,653 Speaker 2: an emotional rollercoaster ride. 2540 01:56:03,853 --> 01:56:06,892 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely right. Thank you very much for today, thank 2541 01:56:06,933 --> 01:56:10,493 Speaker 4: you for all the phone calls, and been a great afternoon. 2542 01:56:10,533 --> 01:56:13,012 Speaker 3: We'll do it all again tomorrow and until we see 2543 01:56:13,093 --> 01:56:16,493 Speaker 3: you again. Just watch one show a week, geez come 2544 01:56:17,173 --> 01:56:17,413 Speaker 3: week 2545 01:56:26,973 --> 01:56:29,533 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on 2546 01:56:29,693 --> 01:56:32,613 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2547 01:56:32,693 --> 01:56:35,253 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.