1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,107 Speaker 1: from newstalksb oh Mine. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,867 Speaker 2: What a game of rugby union last night we had 4 00:00:16,387 --> 00:00:20,667 Speaker 2: Super Rugby Pacific. The Hynders basically pulled the pants down 5 00:00:20,667 --> 00:00:23,147 Speaker 2: on the Crusaders at round one. Went down like a 6 00:00:23,187 --> 00:00:26,587 Speaker 2: cup of cold second read a black Land. So they 7 00:00:26,667 --> 00:00:31,787 Speaker 2: tuned around and attempted to do something about it. The 8 00:00:31,827 --> 00:00:34,347 Speaker 2: boss go behind at the butt, the nick guess flex 9 00:00:34,427 --> 00:00:36,107 Speaker 2: out of the back. Let's got for Orton and it 10 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:38,627 Speaker 2: is rolling in a touch and then'll be at folks. 11 00:00:39,387 --> 00:00:40,267 Speaker 3: The Crusaders. 12 00:00:41,707 --> 00:00:46,387 Speaker 2: They even's here defeating round one against the Highlanders here 13 00:00:46,467 --> 00:00:50,947 Speaker 2: an Apollo Project studium quite twenty nine points to eighteen. 14 00:00:51,587 --> 00:00:54,027 Speaker 2: There was a bit clunky, and when you spend the 15 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:57,107 Speaker 2: thirty minutes of your game with only fourteen players on 16 00:00:57,107 --> 00:00:59,907 Speaker 2: the park, you alsoy that was quite lucky that result. 17 00:00:59,907 --> 00:01:03,267 Speaker 2: We go now to the coaching staff of the Crusaders. 18 00:01:03,307 --> 00:01:07,667 Speaker 2: Assistant coach Dan Perrin joins the program now, so Dan, 19 00:01:07,827 --> 00:01:10,307 Speaker 2: after that you'd be feeling pretty relieved. 20 00:01:11,467 --> 00:01:14,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, morning dark, Yeah, and am very really very heavy 21 00:01:14,827 --> 00:01:17,747 Speaker 3: for the boys. Were a little bit of hurt in 22 00:01:17,787 --> 00:01:20,027 Speaker 3: there from round one and the last time we were 23 00:01:20,067 --> 00:01:24,907 Speaker 3: at home the Brumbies tortous a lesson, So we've sort 24 00:01:24,907 --> 00:01:27,267 Speaker 3: of delved into that throughout the week, sort of a 25 00:01:27,267 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 3: bit of internal motivation there for us. So for the 26 00:01:30,227 --> 00:01:32,707 Speaker 3: boys to go out there and you know, it wasn't pretty, 27 00:01:32,707 --> 00:01:37,187 Speaker 3: it wasn't clean. Playing with fourteen players for thirty minutes 28 00:01:37,187 --> 00:01:40,107 Speaker 3: probably didn't help the cause either, But ye're just really 29 00:01:40,147 --> 00:01:42,067 Speaker 3: proud of some of the effort that they put in, 30 00:01:42,347 --> 00:01:46,107 Speaker 3: the care they showed to you protect your home. 31 00:01:46,827 --> 00:01:49,147 Speaker 2: Imagine what you could do if you actually had a 32 00:01:49,147 --> 00:01:52,067 Speaker 2: full compliment for the full eighty minute. 33 00:01:52,467 --> 00:01:54,947 Speaker 3: Oh mate, it's been the story of this season. I 34 00:01:54,947 --> 00:01:57,427 Speaker 3: think we've had that might be five yellow cards in 35 00:01:57,507 --> 00:01:59,987 Speaker 3: total now already, So yeah, it's anywha of the game 36 00:02:00,027 --> 00:02:02,587 Speaker 3: we need to need to tidy up. I think four 37 00:02:02,627 --> 00:02:07,227 Speaker 3: of those have been been high shots as well. So yeah, 38 00:02:07,267 --> 00:02:10,227 Speaker 3: I think between the coaching crew and Matt Todd that 39 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:13,907 Speaker 3: there might be a little bit of tackle technique craft 40 00:02:13,947 --> 00:02:16,707 Speaker 3: technic this week. But yeah, like you said, if we 41 00:02:16,707 --> 00:02:19,067 Speaker 3: can keep fifteen on the field, and it's definitely going 42 00:02:19,147 --> 00:02:22,987 Speaker 3: to help our rhythm and yet piece in particular as 43 00:02:23,027 --> 00:02:24,707 Speaker 3: well because of a few of them moving forwards. 44 00:02:24,987 --> 00:02:27,587 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can tell players till you blue in the face, 45 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:30,267 Speaker 2: don't do it. What does it take for them to 46 00:02:30,347 --> 00:02:33,427 Speaker 2: actually take that advice to click that over? That's got 47 00:02:33,427 --> 00:02:36,627 Speaker 2: to come from an internal thought process or is it 48 00:02:36,867 --> 00:02:40,307 Speaker 2: just wrote learning repeating how do you go about doing 49 00:02:40,347 --> 00:02:43,987 Speaker 2: this and saying no, Yeah, we. 50 00:02:43,947 --> 00:02:46,627 Speaker 3: Spend a lot of time on tackle technique, and you know, 51 00:02:47,107 --> 00:02:49,227 Speaker 3: we walk it, we talk it, we run it, we 52 00:02:49,307 --> 00:02:51,867 Speaker 3: do it live like the boys do for hours and 53 00:02:51,947 --> 00:02:55,427 Speaker 3: hours into their craft. And I guess what we've got 54 00:02:55,467 --> 00:02:58,027 Speaker 3: to understand is a pretty dynamic game and things can 55 00:02:58,387 --> 00:03:01,187 Speaker 3: pictures can change and split second and you know, I 56 00:03:01,227 --> 00:03:04,067 Speaker 3: look back to Don Gardner's in the earlier rounds, I 57 00:03:04,107 --> 00:03:10,547 Speaker 3: look at Shae Fijackey's on the weekend, say, Boris was 58 00:03:10,587 --> 00:03:13,267 Speaker 3: one that you know you could have, you know, mitigated. 59 00:03:13,307 --> 00:03:16,387 Speaker 3: That was a bit of decision there. But yeah, a 60 00:03:16,387 --> 00:03:19,347 Speaker 3: lot of it's happening and split seconds, So just lowering 61 00:03:19,387 --> 00:03:21,787 Speaker 3: our body hide in general around the field, I think, 62 00:03:22,147 --> 00:03:25,027 Speaker 3: and making sure we target beneath the balls. That second 63 00:03:25,067 --> 00:03:29,107 Speaker 3: shoulders tackler is something we work on a lot. So 64 00:03:29,747 --> 00:03:33,347 Speaker 3: but yeah, our reactions, split second decision making that we 65 00:03:33,507 --> 00:03:35,827 Speaker 3: need to be better there because yeah, it's gonna it's 66 00:03:35,827 --> 00:03:37,627 Speaker 3: going to cost us dearly at some point. 67 00:03:37,747 --> 00:03:40,987 Speaker 2: So tell us about the condition of your players, Who's 68 00:03:41,107 --> 00:03:43,787 Speaker 2: come through, who hasn't, What kind of state are the 69 00:03:43,867 --> 00:03:46,587 Speaker 2: boys in? And we're looking forward, of course to mine 70 00:03:46,627 --> 00:03:47,987 Speaker 2: I pussyfigure, isn't it next week? 71 00:03:49,987 --> 00:03:52,227 Speaker 3: A lot better off than we were this time last week? 72 00:03:52,347 --> 00:03:54,947 Speaker 3: So the injury reports just come in. There's three or 73 00:03:54,947 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 3: four on there. They've all got green dots beside their name, 74 00:03:58,587 --> 00:04:02,547 Speaker 3: which is good. So I think, yeah, you're winning. Definitely helps. 75 00:04:02,907 --> 00:04:05,147 Speaker 3: But we've had some boys that have put I had 76 00:04:05,147 --> 00:04:07,907 Speaker 3: to play tough on the weekend. Share some of our 77 00:04:07,947 --> 00:04:10,987 Speaker 3: second rowers. We were getting pretty light there with Jamie 78 00:04:10,987 --> 00:04:15,787 Speaker 3: Henna and Liam jack Out, so really proud of Antonio 79 00:04:15,827 --> 00:04:20,347 Speaker 3: Shelfon and Taylor Cayhill. Taylor Kay actually played with a 80 00:04:20,387 --> 00:04:27,747 Speaker 3: broken bone in his chest, so yeah, he played played 81 00:04:27,787 --> 00:04:30,107 Speaker 3: for pretty tough and into great performance. And Antonio and 82 00:04:30,147 --> 00:04:33,187 Speaker 3: wil Tucker as well, both runder injury clouds throughout the week. 83 00:04:33,307 --> 00:04:36,587 Speaker 3: So they've will come through with flying colors, and yeah, 84 00:04:36,627 --> 00:04:40,147 Speaker 3: we'll assess a couple. Yeah, hopefully drew back this week 85 00:04:40,147 --> 00:04:43,667 Speaker 3: as well. So get stocks are on the rise a 86 00:04:43,707 --> 00:04:46,987 Speaker 3: little bit from the injury front, and I think after Malana. 87 00:04:46,987 --> 00:04:48,747 Speaker 3: We've got the bye week and it's going to come 88 00:04:48,747 --> 00:04:50,147 Speaker 3: at a pretty easy time for us. 89 00:04:50,627 --> 00:04:54,027 Speaker 2: You are former Michael player, so you'd be looking to 90 00:04:54,307 --> 00:04:57,307 Speaker 2: the Tasman players that are out there smiling from ear 91 00:04:57,387 --> 00:05:00,987 Speaker 2: to ear and then contribution to the Crusaders over many 92 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:04,387 Speaker 2: years has been gold. Looks like you found another one. 93 00:05:04,787 --> 00:05:07,427 Speaker 2: He's a Christ's kidd, he's from Rice, has moved up 94 00:05:07,427 --> 00:05:11,147 Speaker 2: to sunny Land. Tell us a wee bit more about 95 00:05:11,587 --> 00:05:15,387 Speaker 2: what they're calling him, Ethan Blackader Part two. 96 00:05:17,227 --> 00:05:23,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a dead ringer for Ethan actually, and yeah, 97 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:26,107 Speaker 3: we've been tracking Johnny for a week while right through 98 00:05:26,547 --> 00:05:29,787 Speaker 3: you know, those days at Christ College, and yeah, I 99 00:05:29,787 --> 00:05:31,587 Speaker 3: think he made the move. You know, there were quite 100 00:05:31,627 --> 00:05:35,907 Speaker 3: a few flankers around in Canterbury with Corey Kellow and 101 00:05:36,107 --> 00:05:38,587 Speaker 3: Tom Christie at the time, so you know he's seeing 102 00:05:38,627 --> 00:05:40,507 Speaker 3: an opportunity to get up there and Kasman just to 103 00:05:40,587 --> 00:05:42,907 Speaker 3: get game time at MPC in a bit more exposure 104 00:05:42,907 --> 00:05:45,387 Speaker 3: at a high level. And you know his work at 105 00:05:45,427 --> 00:05:47,667 Speaker 3: the New Zealand and the Twenties and World couple couple 106 00:05:47,667 --> 00:05:51,107 Speaker 3: of years ago was I think he started and almost 107 00:05:51,107 --> 00:05:53,547 Speaker 3: played every minute of every game on that. So he's 108 00:05:53,547 --> 00:05:56,187 Speaker 3: got a massive engine. He's a big body, has some 109 00:05:56,467 --> 00:06:00,907 Speaker 3: athlete and character. He has a dead set ring of 110 00:06:00,907 --> 00:06:04,347 Speaker 3: for Ethan Blackead. It just loves the grind, loves the unseen. 111 00:06:04,387 --> 00:06:08,707 Speaker 3: If it's his work, think not just you know in 112 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:12,107 Speaker 3: the game, but you know in the gym, on the computers. 113 00:06:12,587 --> 00:06:17,227 Speaker 3: Extremely diligent and yeah, just a great human that you know, 114 00:06:17,307 --> 00:06:18,907 Speaker 3: wants to be better and wants to make the people 115 00:06:18,907 --> 00:06:21,107 Speaker 3: around him better. So we've got a lot of time 116 00:06:21,187 --> 00:06:23,787 Speaker 3: for Johnny. He's got a massive future and yeah, we're 117 00:06:23,867 --> 00:06:27,307 Speaker 3: just really proud of, you know, his effort throughout the 118 00:06:27,307 --> 00:06:30,667 Speaker 3: week to set himself up and get a crack at 119 00:06:30,667 --> 00:06:33,267 Speaker 3: the big time. He'd been playing extremely well for our 120 00:06:33,307 --> 00:06:37,187 Speaker 3: development fifteen, probably the player of the game and all 121 00:06:37,227 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 3: four of those fixtures, so he deserves the opportunity, and 122 00:06:40,107 --> 00:06:41,667 Speaker 3: we really wrap from Johnny. 123 00:06:41,747 --> 00:06:44,987 Speaker 2: Lee looks something else. It looks like a Hessian bag 124 00:06:45,027 --> 00:06:47,627 Speaker 2: full of elbows, shoulders and knees too. I wouldn't want 125 00:06:47,627 --> 00:06:48,227 Speaker 2: to tackle that. 126 00:06:50,947 --> 00:06:53,947 Speaker 3: Yeah, we stay away from him when we're holding hit shields. 127 00:06:53,947 --> 00:06:57,187 Speaker 3: That's for shotting Matt Todd as laid claim that he's 128 00:06:57,227 --> 00:06:59,507 Speaker 3: probably the hardest hit and Toddy still wants to hold 129 00:06:59,507 --> 00:07:01,787 Speaker 3: the hit shields, just to get a feel for these 130 00:07:01,787 --> 00:07:04,947 Speaker 3: guys tackling, and Johnny's right up there when he hits 131 00:07:04,987 --> 00:07:05,507 Speaker 3: those things. 132 00:07:05,827 --> 00:07:09,387 Speaker 2: That was positive, plainly, the cards were a negative. What 133 00:07:09,547 --> 00:07:12,387 Speaker 2: else do you look toward after that game and go, hey, 134 00:07:12,467 --> 00:07:15,507 Speaker 2: you know what that actually settling really well after what's 135 00:07:15,587 --> 00:07:17,867 Speaker 2: been a pretty tumultuous season. 136 00:07:19,907 --> 00:07:22,707 Speaker 3: Yeah, just just just a rhythm. You know, we're our 137 00:07:22,747 --> 00:07:25,707 Speaker 3: own with the enemy in the first four rounds. You know, 138 00:07:25,987 --> 00:07:28,387 Speaker 3: even looking at that Chiefs game, we got away with 139 00:07:28,427 --> 00:07:33,547 Speaker 3: a couple there after a poor start, so we've just 140 00:07:33,587 --> 00:07:36,587 Speaker 3: been focusing on ourselves and you know, our era rate 141 00:07:36,827 --> 00:07:40,107 Speaker 3: was far too high, and those early parts of Super Rugby, 142 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:43,707 Speaker 3: you know that it was better on the weekend. There's 143 00:07:43,747 --> 00:07:46,867 Speaker 3: still some areas that are handling and decision making that 144 00:07:47,187 --> 00:07:51,107 Speaker 3: we need to tidy up. But for the most part, yeah, 145 00:07:51,227 --> 00:07:54,187 Speaker 3: decision making obviously, discipline would have been okay. I think 146 00:07:54,227 --> 00:07:57,107 Speaker 3: thirteen penalties three yellow cards is as an area we 147 00:07:57,267 --> 00:07:59,427 Speaker 3: really have to tidy up, as we spoke about before, 148 00:07:59,547 --> 00:08:03,107 Speaker 3: and you know, an area that you know I'm in 149 00:08:03,187 --> 00:08:04,787 Speaker 3: charge of around the line out. I think it was 150 00:08:04,827 --> 00:08:07,667 Speaker 3: the best lineup performance of the of the season so 151 00:08:07,747 --> 00:08:10,307 Speaker 3: far as well, so there'd been a few honest conversations 152 00:08:10,307 --> 00:08:13,067 Speaker 3: throughout the week and yeah, really stoked for the boys 153 00:08:13,267 --> 00:08:15,787 Speaker 3: and how the line out operated. It yet ten out 154 00:08:15,827 --> 00:08:18,467 Speaker 3: of ten on the weekend, So a couple of areas 155 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:19,947 Speaker 3: to tidy up in a couple of areas here that 156 00:08:19,987 --> 00:08:20,707 Speaker 3: we're really proud of. 157 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:23,267 Speaker 2: Yeah, I dare I say, you really couldn't go much 158 00:08:23,267 --> 00:08:26,347 Speaker 2: further back with the line out, now, could you? Sorry? 159 00:08:26,747 --> 00:08:30,307 Speaker 3: But it wasn't looking great and no, well we were 160 00:08:30,307 --> 00:08:32,467 Speaker 3: actually we won ninety four percent of the ball against 161 00:08:32,507 --> 00:08:34,307 Speaker 3: the Blues. But you've got to look at the whole 162 00:08:34,307 --> 00:08:36,427 Speaker 3: picture and the quality of ball that we were delivering. 163 00:08:36,467 --> 00:08:40,507 Speaker 3: And one line out got pushed out over the sideline, 164 00:08:40,507 --> 00:08:44,147 Speaker 3: which just isn't good enough. And then three deliveries to 165 00:08:44,227 --> 00:08:47,227 Speaker 3: our half back, whether the half back had overrun it 166 00:08:47,307 --> 00:08:49,107 Speaker 3: or our delivery from the top of the line out 167 00:08:49,227 --> 00:08:52,547 Speaker 3: wasn't wasn't great. So you know, it's winning the balls 168 00:08:52,547 --> 00:08:55,667 Speaker 3: one thing, but delivering top quality ball and or applying 169 00:08:55,707 --> 00:08:59,627 Speaker 3: pressure through your mall, you know, is the big picture. 170 00:08:59,747 --> 00:09:03,627 Speaker 3: So you have some really honest conversations on Monday morning 171 00:09:03,627 --> 00:09:07,347 Speaker 3: with the whole forward pack around know our diligence to 172 00:09:07,387 --> 00:09:09,867 Speaker 3: the line at the work we're putting in and it 173 00:09:09,947 --> 00:09:12,907 Speaker 3: wasn't one specific area, it was everything across the board, 174 00:09:12,987 --> 00:09:15,747 Speaker 3: so it was it was great to see the players 175 00:09:15,787 --> 00:09:18,107 Speaker 3: respond the way they did this weekend, and you know, 176 00:09:18,147 --> 00:09:21,427 Speaker 3: the trajectories are on the way up, I believe, so yeah, 177 00:09:21,547 --> 00:09:22,387 Speaker 3: I'm really proud of it. 178 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:25,987 Speaker 2: Dan Parent, thanks so much for your time as always, 179 00:09:26,387 --> 00:09:29,067 Speaker 2: wishing you the best of best weeks. Get Gus stuck 180 00:09:29,107 --> 00:09:31,827 Speaker 2: in and maybe keep the locks and the props separated. 181 00:09:35,667 --> 00:09:37,587 Speaker 3: Bring it back again and work for us during the week. 182 00:09:37,667 --> 00:09:42,027 Speaker 2: I give us more of it, okay, Dan, we will see. 183 00:09:42,067 --> 00:09:44,227 Speaker 2: I just make sure I won't film it and report 184 00:09:44,347 --> 00:09:46,947 Speaker 2: back to it. Dan peer On, the assistant coach of 185 00:09:47,027 --> 00:09:50,867 Speaker 2: the Crusaders, I suggested Bullian because they managed to pick 186 00:09:50,947 --> 00:09:54,067 Speaker 2: up a win. We've been pretty awful going into the 187 00:09:54,227 --> 00:09:57,667 Speaker 2: sixth round with only one win, but as it happens 188 00:09:57,707 --> 00:10:01,067 Speaker 2: here two and three, so working out okay for the 189 00:10:01,107 --> 00:10:03,707 Speaker 2: Crusaders for the Red and Black. 190 00:10:04,427 --> 00:10:07,307 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason and Fine, listen 191 00:10:07,387 --> 00:10:10,627 Speaker 1: live to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or 192 00:10:10,707 --> 00:10:12,587 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.