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Speaker 1: Right now with us as Gavin Gray UK correspondent I Gevin.

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Speaker 2: Hi there, Heather, So the fire right's.

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Speaker 1: Got a victory.

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Speaker 2: A yes, they have this in Germany and certainly causing

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Speaker 2: a few shockwaves around the EU. That is because the

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Speaker 2: old anti immigration party, the Alternative for Deutschland or the

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Speaker 2: Alternative for Germany, the AfD party is celebrating what it's

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Speaker 2: calling an historic success. It is the first time that

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Speaker 2: the far right has won a state election since the

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Speaker 2: Second World War and the Nazis, so that just really

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Speaker 2: focuses the mind on how groundbreaking this is. The AfD

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Speaker 2: won a third of the vote, nine points ahead of

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Speaker 2: the Conservative CDU in an eastern state of Thuringia, and interestingly,

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Speaker 2: the three governing parties in the coalition that rules national

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Speaker 2: German politics, all of those three parties were well down

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Speaker 2: from those top two votes. So it just goes to

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Speaker 2: show I think a little in the way in which

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Speaker 2: German minds are working. Part of this course has been

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Speaker 2: focused by the killing of three people in a stabbing

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Speaker 2: by a suspected or The suspect rather is a Syrian

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Speaker 2: asylum seeker in his twenties said to be working for

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Speaker 2: Islamic state that was just over a week ago and

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Speaker 2: I think has really swayed the election. A second state

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Speaker 2: was also up in Saxony, and the alternative for Deutscheen

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Speaker 2: only just lost that one very very slightly to the CDU.

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Speaker 2: So those two parties, neither of them in government doing

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Speaker 2: extremely well. The government party is doing really, really badly.

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Speaker 2: The federal elections are just a year away, and as

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Speaker 2: you can imagine, a lot of disquire about what this

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Speaker 2: will mean for German politics.

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Speaker 1: What do we know about the guy, I mean who

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Speaker 1: leads the party in this particular provinces described as highly controversial.

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Speaker 1: What's the controversial about them?

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Speaker 2: Well, the controversial things is basically that beyond Hecker, who's

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Speaker 2: said that this was historic victory, spoke of his great pride,

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Speaker 2: he has in the past said things which the Germans

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Speaker 2: say are against the law. He denies this, but basically

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Speaker 2: using phrases that hark back to those to the Nazi era,

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Speaker 2: which in Germany is not allowed now. He denies doing that,

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Speaker 2: but nevertheless, some people suspect there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: people who are very very sympathetic to that way of

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Speaker 2: thinking in this past.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are photographs of him online going back

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Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen of pulling what appears to be a

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Speaker 1: Nazi salute. You know, you have to ef factor in

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Speaker 1: that it's possible to capture somebody kind of at an

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Speaker 1: awkward moment and it looks like it. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: given the party's kind of affinity with some Nazish type ideas,

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Speaker 1: that is him pulling a Nazi salute, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it looks to all intents and purposes

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Speaker 2: like that, as you're saying, though you know, it is

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Speaker 2: sometimes difficult when it's a snapshop to know that that

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Speaker 2: is actually what was being done. Incidentally, though the AfD

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Speaker 2: has tried to clean up its image considerably, talking more

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Speaker 2: about the economy and migration than anything else. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: many people do fear that behind this is an underbelly

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Speaker 2: of extreme far right. However, having said all of that,

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Speaker 2: even though they secured a third of the votes, on

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Speaker 2: more than a third of the votes, it's unlikely to

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Speaker 2: get anywhere near a working majority because all the other

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Speaker 2: parties are refusing to go into coalition with it. That said,

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Speaker 2: some laws in Germany require a two thirds majority, and

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Speaker 2: because the AfD has more than a third of the seats,

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Speaker 2: that means it could block some pretty important legislation.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, I bet you're feeling absolutely vindicated and not going

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Speaker 1: for the Zoasis tickets.

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Speaker 2: Indeed so so. Originally up for roughly two hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty New Zealand dollars, some climb to nearly triple that

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Speaker 2: price when the sale began, and that's because dynamic pricing

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Speaker 2: it's called in others supply and demand. When there's demand,

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Speaker 2: the prices rise, and there was huge demand for these tickets.

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Speaker 2: Now there's nothing illegal about what has been done, but

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Speaker 2: it has left many fans furious because as they queued

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Speaker 2: for hours on the phone, you could see the price

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Speaker 2: is going up effectively. So you know, the government has

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Speaker 2: recognized this, in line with previous administrations incidentally, who recognized it.

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Speaker 2: The problem is what to do and which bit of

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Speaker 2: legislations change. Obviously it should come under some kind of

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Speaker 2: consumer rights issue, but you know, supply and demand is

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Speaker 2: there and that cannot be changed. But to see those

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Speaker 2: ticket prices go up as you're waiting on line to

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Speaker 2: get them is deeply infuriating.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Devin, Hey, thanks very much, man, really appreciate

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Speaker 1: it talking you in a couple of days Gavin Gray

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