1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: earlier show where One roof Love, Where You Live News 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: talks that'd be good morning, wasn't. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: The first day the key we mass exodus across the 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Ditch still happening. Mitch McCann in the US, for US 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: on the Middle East, and elon who the world has 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: a new richest man? The jet Star expansion. Does that 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: mean we can shave fifty bucks off our flights? Plus 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: this morning, for the first time, more kids globally are 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: too fat than too thin. The agenda. It is Thursday, 11 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: the eleventh of September. Poland's Prime Minister says it's the 12 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: closest his country has been to an open conflict since 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: the end of World War II. This after they shot 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: down Russian drones in their own airspace. 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: We're most likely dealing with a large scale provocation. But 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: we're in consultation with urlas I am in constant contact 17 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: with the needs of Secretary General so that we can 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: respond to this tape of threats as effectively as we 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: did tonight. 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Russia says it didn't do it on purpose. A day 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: after they went after Hamas and Kata, the Israelis now 22 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: hitting Hooti sites in Yemen. Doha now moving to hold 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: netn Yahoo responsible for breaking international law. STARM is about 24 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: to have a very awkward meeting with the Israeli president 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: at Downing Street. 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 4: This visit was controversial even before Israel's air strikes. Yesterday, 27 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: You've had sixty MPs writing to Sakire Stamer asking what 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: legal advice the government received on whether Isaac Hutzel's visit 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 4: is compatible with the UK's obligations under the Genocide Convention 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 4: because of what is happening in Gaza. 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: Yesterday, I told you about the US military veterans saying 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: that they've seen UFOs and I said, just Nutbuz, I said, 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: they're a bit kukubananas. Well, today NASA's held a press 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: conference saying that a rock sample from Mars has shown 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the potential for life, albeit ancient life. 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 5: There are at least four hundred known planets, and that 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 5: means there is a part usibility, some would even say 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 5: a probability of life beyond Earth. They've done the analysis 39 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 5: on these lapid spots and we you know, we think 40 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: they are potentially made by some sort of ancient life. 41 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 5: This finding, by our incredible perseverance. Rover is the closest 42 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: we've actually come to discovering ancient life on Mars. 43 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one roof Love where you Live News Talk. 45 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: Sa'd be great to be with you this morning. A 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: flick me TeX's nine to nine two love hearing from you. 47 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: For anyone who's worked in or around corporates, you know 48 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: that the CFOs, the money men and women. They are 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: the real mvy piece. They're clinical, they're analytical, They often 50 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: quite unemotional. They basically cut the bullshit. Priority one is 51 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: grow the business, but when the crisis calls, it's protect 52 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: the business, keep it running. You trim, you slice your dice. 53 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: You take cash from here, you put it there, You 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: follow growth strendths. So when they talk, I tend to 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: listen to them, and they've just done a whole lot 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: of talking. And guess what, the news aren't great for 57 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 2: the country's biggest CFO, Nicola Willis. Here's what the CFOs 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: have said. Half of them in this survey don't reckon 59 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: that over the past year their businesses have gone Half 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: of them do think their businesses have either gone backwards 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: or stagnated, and only around half are confident that the 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: current lot in power have a good understanding of what 63 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 2: needs to change. That's not great. Four out of five 64 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: think government policies need to change to boost growth, which 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: is Nichola's job. Remember she's Growth Minister too. But here's 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: the kicker. Only eighteen percent of them reckon that the 67 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 2: government will actually make those changes. They want tax changes, 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: they want compliance costs down, they want regulations gone. Add 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: to this the fact that next week's GDP read will 70 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: have us going backwards and things don't look amazing for 71 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: the Finance Minister this week. And as these are her people, 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: she should be heading this out of the park, and 73 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: these are her people. Spring may have sprung, but winter's 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: chasing Nicola willis like a bad smell. It's not all bad, 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: I should say. Thirty eight percent are expecting to see 76 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: modest growth. That was compared to thirty one percent last year. 77 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: Pessimism is down, but economies aren't things you just tinker 78 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: with and then leave alone. When the world changes, we 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 2: should too, and the world is changing fast, so Willis 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: and Co better keep up because when businesses do well, 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 2: New Zealand does well. On news talks. B it is 82 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: ten after five coming up next, we'll talk about this. 83 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: I mean you won't be surprised to hear this. The 84 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: world now has a bigger obesity problem for children than 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: it has a malnutrition problem. Other words, there are now 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: more obese kids living on planet Earth than there are 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: starving kids. What's wrong with us? 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: That's next, Views and Views you Trust to start your day. 89 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roofe Love 90 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: where you live the use talks. 91 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: He'd be five thirteen on your Thursday morning. So we're 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: still not back to pre COVID. But the visitor arrival 93 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: numbers from yesterday showed that lots of Ozzies love coming 94 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: here skiing July. This is overall we had an increase. 95 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 2: We had a number rather of two hundred and thirty 96 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: six thousand for the month. We're up six point six 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: percent year on year. The number of Australians coming here 98 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: is interesting. One hundred and twenty seven thousand of them 99 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: in the month of July coming here basically go skiing. 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: That is a record for the month of July. So 101 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: maybe that you know the campaign that everyone poo pooed 102 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: that Luxeon did with Louise Upston. Everyone must go. Maybe 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: it's actually working, Bryan Bridge. More children are now obese 104 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: than they are underweight globally nine point two percent underweight, 105 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: nine point four percent considered too big. Those numbers in 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: the year two thousand, just to give you some context, 107 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: thirteen percent underweight and just three percent obese. Jackie Saldy 108 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: saved the Children New Zealand US this morning, Jackie, good morning. 109 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 6: Good morning Ryans. 110 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: So what do you think when you hear that? 111 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 7: Deeply concerning and this is something that we need to 112 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 7: take urgent action on. Globally, one and twenty children under 113 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 7: five years of agents under five are obese and this 114 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 7: rises to twenty percent of children aged five to nineteen 115 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 7: who are living with overweight and this is deeply concerning 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 7: and the direct results with the food environment that they 117 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 7: are growing up in. 118 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: Where are the kids that are obese? Which countries rich ones? 119 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 7: Well, they're rich and poor now. And we're seeing this 120 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 7: spread globally other than Sub Saharan Africa and South Asia. 121 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 7: And this is a real problem because as the food 122 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 7: environments change, cheap, highly ultra processed, aggressively market marketed foods 123 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 7: at children and adolescents is becoming more and more available. 124 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 7: And this is food that is really high in sugar, fats, salts, colors, 125 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 7: and multi size and flavors. It is not healthy food. 126 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 7: It is not the fruits, vegetables and meat or high 127 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 7: protein options that we need to be living on. 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: How do you what proportion you said that it's poor 129 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: and rich and poor countries? Is do rich countries generally 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: have a bigger problem with obesity than poorer ones? 131 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 7: Well that was the pattern earlier, but this report shows 132 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 7: that those patterns are now changing and it is both rich. Well, 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 7: it's middle income has really up in their obesity STAPs, 134 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 7: but so have the poorer countries where we would not 135 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 7: have expected to see this, And this is because of 136 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 7: the importing of cheap, highly processed food that is now 137 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 7: it's easier to buy and cheaper to buyer than are 138 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 7: healthy unprocessed food. 139 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: How do you stop that then, If it's if you 140 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: know you could do regulations in wealthier countries, how on 141 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: earth do you stop that in poorer or middle income countries. 142 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 7: Well, again, it's about the regulations about the food that's 143 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 7: being imported. In marketing, it's about those food production systems 144 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 7: making it affordable for farmers to be producing the food 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 7: in the first place, and then that you know, farm 146 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 7: gate to place concept where it's not going through so 147 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 7: many layers of process and profits and cost. It's cost 148 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 7: on cost, and so we need to make healthy food 149 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 7: accessible and more available, and it takes government systems to 150 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 7: do that. Then if we are allowing the importing of 151 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 7: really so really cheap food that's highly processed, it's shiny, 152 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 7: it looks good that actually when you look at the 153 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,119 Speaker 7: back of the packet, it's full of sugar, salts and sax, 154 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: but it might have fruits on the cover. It's just 155 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 7: simply misleading. We need better education for parents and children 156 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 7: so they know what they're choosing and labeling the big 157 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 7: part of that. I mean, you've got to look at 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 7: a fine print on the back to see how much 159 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 7: sugars and something, whereas we should have how many tea 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 7: spoons of sugar are upfront easy to see, Well, this 161 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 7: is thirteen tea spoons of sugar in it, and a 162 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 7: daily intake for a child should only before. 163 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: Jackie, appreciate your time. Jackie Saldy from Save the Children 164 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: in New Zealand Times seventeen after five Bryan Breade. You know, 165 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: I don't like taxes, and you know it's not one 166 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: of the things that I would ever advocate for. But 167 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: if you were going to put a tax on anything, 168 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't you put a tax on really high sugar stuff? 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Because you look at what having with cigarettes. You put 170 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: the only way you got through to smokers, and the 171 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: really stubborn smokers are still smoking anyway, But to those 172 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: who were sort of in the middle, the only way 173 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: you got through to them was by hiking the price 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: to forty to fifty bucks for a pack of duris. 175 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: So what if you had to pay ten bucks for 176 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: a canna coke? You wouldn't buy it, would you. Most 177 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: people wouldn't buy it. The kids certainly wouldn't be buying it. 178 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: You see. I see it down the road from my house, 179 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: kids going to school or coming home from school, and 180 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: they've got enormous one point five liters of fizzy drink 181 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: in their hands. I mean, the mind boggles seventeen after five. 182 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll get fifty bucks off our flight soon if 183 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: jet Star expands in the way that they hope to 184 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: Irene king on that next the. 185 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Root Love where 187 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: you live, News talks. 188 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: That'd be the world has a new richest man at 189 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: twenty after five. We'll get to that a little after 190 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: five point thirty and before six we're talking population. Where 191 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: are key? We's heading bad news that's over the ditch. 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: Maybe they can get a jet Star flight. Jetstar is 193 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 2: lighting a fire under air New Zealand. Biggest ever expansion 194 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: heres six hundred thousand extra seats. New routes like Hamilton 195 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: to christ Church great for the regions, Seasonal roots like 196 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 2: Queenstown de Brizzy great for tourists, Auckland christ Church. You're 197 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: getting an extra three hundred thousand seats a year from 198 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: eight flights a day up to eleven. Irene Kings the 199 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: aviation commentated with us this morning iron good morning. 200 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 8: Good morning there. 201 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: They've seen an opening here with these in New Zealand 202 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 2: Jine issues you reckon? 203 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, Look, I think this is a great endorsement 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 8: of a recovery in the New Zealand economy from an 205 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 8: international operator that actually understands a lot about the New 206 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 8: Zealand market. 207 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: Is it also because they've been I mean I saw 208 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: the quantus results. They've got a bit of cash because 209 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: they've been doing pretty well in Asia and other places. 210 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely, you know, quantus balance sheet has been significantly strengthening, 211 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 8: you know over the last two three years, as opposed 212 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 8: to in New Zealand, who we've seen a significant weakening. 213 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 8: We've also got capacity coming out of Asia as jet 214 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 8: Stagias shut down, and we've got additional aircraft coming into 215 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 8: Quantus as well. So all of those things are combining 216 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 8: and you know they're really starting to up their game 217 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 8: now in New Zealand. 218 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Does that mean in New Zealand will have to lower 219 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: their prices if we have six hundred and sixty thousand 220 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: new low con seats. 221 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 8: Oh, look, you know this is a significant change. And yes, 222 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 8: I've felt for quite some time that a New Zealand 223 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 8: has to really come to grips with its domestic pricing 224 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 8: strategies now that they are subject to significant complaint and 225 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 8: their sustainability when you look at, you know, the options 226 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 8: you've got of traveling across to Australia now really really 227 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 8: come into question. 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: How much do you think we could be shaving off 229 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: our the average seat price? 230 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 8: Well, look, we you look at what jetster typically charged 231 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 8: in the New Zealand market, which is just under one 232 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 8: hundred dollars per seat. Albeit you know jet Set they're 233 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 8: here any zone typically when you look at their charges 234 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 8: around about two point fifty, so you know there's a 235 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 8: significant price disparity between the two. Now, I understand that 236 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 8: the operators you know, are quite significantly different in the 237 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 8: services that they provide and things like that. But New 238 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 8: Zealand is a price driven sensitive market. And even you're seeing, 239 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 8: you know, corporate and business travelers shift onto jetst with 240 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 8: this extra capacity that jets is putting in the market, 241 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 8: that shift is going to accelerate because every business is 242 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 8: now price sensitive. 243 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 2: I Ren appreciate you announced this morning. Thanks you, I 244 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: Ren King. The aviation commentator time is twenty three minutes 245 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: after five. Ryan. This is where we have our priorities 246 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 2: around the wrong way. This is in relation to obesity 247 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 2: versus malnutrition. A text coming this morning, Ryan. This is 248 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 2: where we have our priorities around the wrong way. Would 249 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: you prefer to pay a dollar fifty for one point 250 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: five liters of soft drink soft drink or five dollars 251 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: for a two liter of milk? We need to increase 252 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: the sugary drink prices. Yeah, do you then offset you know, 253 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 2: whatever tax you collect from increasing the price of sugary stuff, 254 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: do you put on discounting the price of whole food? 255 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: Twenty three after five, we'll look at the situation in 256 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: the Middle East, and Lord help us the situation in Europe. 257 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: Next the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how 258 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: It By News. 259 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: Talks AV News Talks there b twenty six minutes after five. 260 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Diplomacy has gone to the dogs. Remember it was only 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: a month ago Trump was parading around in Alaskan Air 262 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Force base talking up peace for Ukraine. And then within 263 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: weeks Putin sends eight hundred drones in a single night 264 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: across the boarder, biggest attack of the war so far, 265 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:16,119 Speaker 2: and he's now entered NATO airspace. The fighter jets are scrambled, 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: the alarm bells ringing in Brussels. Does any of this 267 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: sound like progress to you? Does any of this sound 268 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: like diplomacy is doing a damned thing to stop regular 269 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: folk being slaughtered in the crossfire? No, of course not. Meanwhile, NETNYA, 270 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: who's firing missiles into Doha again? And who is he 271 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 2: aiming for? The Hummas lead negotiator, the same guy who 272 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: as recently his last week was being given cease fire 273 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: details from the Americans via the Egyptians and the qataris 274 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: if you really want peace, you don't fire missiles at 275 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: the guy you're negotiating with. Now, if you're Hamas, what 276 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: are you going to do now that the place you 277 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: thought was safe to have talks no longer feel so safe. 278 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: Some in Hamas believe the whole thing was a setup. 279 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: According to the BBC, the American ceasefire proposal was all 280 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: a trick to get them in one place at one 281 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: time and then bang bomb them, blow them up. And 282 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: you can't blame them for thinking that, can you. It 283 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you look, which continent, which war, diplomacy 284 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be working. The Americans look weak, Trump 285 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 2: looks weak. Netan Yahoo's taking him for a ride and 286 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 2: putin well, he couldn't care less. And the one guy 287 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: in the world sitting back watching, smiling, biding his time 288 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: and growing a military empire is one sh jingping of 289 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: China and bread rich. You're on news talk, said big Now, 290 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: fresh from her real estate conference mc gig in Brisbane. 291 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: Yes it happened Karmala Harris is now good her memoir 292 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: and we've got some details for you this morning, hot 293 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: off the thress, and she's kind of throwing Biden under 294 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: the bus a little bit. So this is about his 295 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: decision to seek reelection at twenty twenty four. She's called 296 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: it reckless. You can understand why they. 297 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 9: Were able to make every single solitary person. Are you quite. 298 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 10: Eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh, 299 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 10: the COVID excuse me, with dealing with everything we had in. 300 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: Look if we finally beat Medicare. 301 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, President Biden, President Trump. Yeah, it was bad. 302 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: You remember that, right? Okay, So she's writ in the book, 303 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: was it grace or was it recklessness for him to 304 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 2: decide to run again? In retrospect, I think it was recklessness. 305 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: The stakes were too high. This wasn't a choice that 306 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: should have been left to an individual's ego. Okay, but 307 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: then she went on to do this. 308 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 11: You know what also excites me? What I'm among the 309 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 11: many things I'm excited about. Electric school buses. I love 310 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 11: electric school buses. I just love them for so many reasons, 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,119 Speaker 11: Maybe because I went to school on a school bus. 312 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 11: Where's yourn if you went to school on a school bus, right. 313 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. The whole thing was weird. And 314 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: now we have Donald Trump. So she also writes in 315 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: the memoir that she felt sidelined while she was within 316 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: the White House. Her chief of staff, she writes, had 317 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: to fight to prevent her from standing in the background 318 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: of photos like a potted plant. That's sort of the role, 319 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 2: isn't it. Vice President. You're just there to make the 320 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: other one, the main guy, look good. That's the job. 321 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: Twenty nine minutes after five News Talks, there'd be Mitch 322 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 2: mccannon live Stateside afternoons for you person over again. 323 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 324 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and one roof love where you 325 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: live news talks'd be. 326 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: Good morning. It is tweet four away from the six 327 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 2: News Talks, there be this morning the mass exodus across 328 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: the Tasman continues, Mitch mcan is live from the States 329 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: for US. Is Ntanya who just taking the mickey? Now 330 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: with the White House, we'll look at that. Luke has 331 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: text this morning. Luke, do you know what I always 332 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: appreciate about appreciate about hearing from you, Luke, is that 333 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 2: you put your name at the end of a text, 334 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: and it's always nice to know people's names. That's just 335 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: a hint hint for everyone else. He says that this 336 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: is about Carmela and Biden, with Karmala's new memoir. We 337 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: were talking about that before the news, and yet the 338 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: media here had nothing negative to say about Biden and 339 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: Harris when they were running. Trump gets back in and 340 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 2: the whaling begins again. He does finish the text. He 341 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: is a bit crap too, though. Yeah, I know, it's 342 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: sort of the lesser of two evils, and I'm not 343 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: sure which of those which way round that goes at 344 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: the moment, given the state of the world. We'll talk 345 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: to Mitch McCann about that shortly. Now, you won't be 346 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 2: caring about any of this if you are the world's 347 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: new richest man and we have to crown one this morning. 348 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: It's like Elon who This is all off the back 349 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: of Oracles staging a miracle on Wall Street overnight. His 350 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: name is Larry Allison. If you haven't heard of him. 351 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 2: He owns forty percent of Oracle. He is now worth 352 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: a whopping three hundred and ninety three billion US dollars. 353 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 2: That is six hundred and forty five billion New Zealand dollars. 354 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: Elon Musk is worth ten billion bucks less. Now New 355 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Zealand's GDP is four hundred and thirty six billion dollars 356 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: New Zealand. So he's worth more than the value of 357 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: all the finished goods and services this entire country can 358 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: make in a year. How do you get that rich? Basically, 359 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: AI it's a software company and Oracle shares jumped forty 360 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: percent off the back of news that there were good results. 361 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: They won a bunch of new contracts. It's all cloud infrastructure, 362 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: so stuff that I will never understand, but has made 363 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: Larry Ellison a very, very very rich man. This morning, 364 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Ryan Bridge shadow our reporters around the country, Jamie Cunningham 365 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: for to Need and Jamie good morning. 366 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 12: Good morning Ryan. 367 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: Support for a new private hospital despite opening before the 368 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: public one. 369 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's right. The private facility specializing in general and 370 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 12: elective surgery is set to open by mid twenty twenty 371 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 12: eight and treat more than ten thousand patients a year. 372 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 7: Now. 373 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 12: The one point eight billion dollar government funded hospital is 374 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 12: opening in twenty thirty one. Jules Raddick says because the 375 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 12: existing hospital is oversubscribed, the private one is needed and 376 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 12: the two will work interactively. He says they wouldn't be 377 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 12: opening a hospital if they didn't see a gap in 378 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 12: the market, and the more healthcare Dunedin has, the better. 379 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather. 380 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 12: It's partly cloudy with the chance of a morning shower, 381 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 12: strong westerlies and a high of fourteen. 382 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: Nice Jamie, thank you, clears and christ Church clear? Good morning, 383 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: Good morning. So the government announcing an upgrade to christ 384 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: Church Women's Hospital. Yes, that's right. 385 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 13: This is a fourteen million dollar upgrade and expansion to 386 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 13: the women's hospital neonatal intensive care unit. This will add 387 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 13: ten more neonatal comps, will also improve infection prevention measures 388 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 13: and ensure the facility he's meeting the latest fire and 389 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 13: safety standards. Health Minister sam In Brown says the unit 390 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 13: has been under increasing pressure with demand exceeding capacity. He 391 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 13: says this money will help families across Canterbury and ensure 392 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 13: more newborns are getting the right care. Work is expected 393 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 13: to start next year and be completed early twenty twenty seven. 394 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: All right, how should weather very. 395 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 13: Frosty this morning? But should clear to find westerly's turning 396 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 13: northerly twelve degrees. 397 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: Here's clear Max and Wellington Hamax, Good morning. What happened 398 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: with the standoff that we saw the bangs on the 399 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 2: news last night? The aos were there? What happened? 400 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, so about one o'clock in the afternoon yesterday, this 401 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 9: is suay of armed police officers descended on Webb Street 402 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 9: in the central city, surrounding a motel. It seemed for 403 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 9: some hours they were there. There was a cordon around 404 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 9: Webb at also Victoria Streets. They went in pretty promptly 405 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 9: to presumably try to negotiate with this suspect, but it 406 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 9: wasn't until the evening six point fifteen pm they could 407 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 9: arrest him bring him out. That thirty seven year old 408 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 9: is still in today and will appear in the district 409 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 9: court today charged with unlawfully carrying an imitation firearm. The 410 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 9: fact it was an imitation obviously was not known at 411 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 9: the time to locals residents in the building in and 412 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 9: around this Harbour City motor Rin, which is also used 413 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 9: for emergency housing. But at one point you could hear 414 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 9: that series of bangs that could very easily have been gunfire. 415 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 9: In fact, we thought it might have been for a time. Thankfully, 416 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 9: though police the sounds were just police deploying distraction devices, 417 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 9: which apparently are often used to try to engage with suspects. 418 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 9: Police were still there last night, but the cordons have lifted. 419 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: All right, how's you wear the next? 420 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 9: That should be mostly fine today with some stronger when 421 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 9: this morning? 422 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: Fourteen? The high in the city. All right, Oh, he 423 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: didn't say central changed. You had to be here yesterday. Next, 424 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 2: Thank you Neva's and Augland hay Neva, good morning. Now 425 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: you're talking to us about Taranaki and Woeman not going ahead? 426 00:22:59,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: That's right. 427 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 14: Blimey with a feather Now this came out yesterday. The 428 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 14: Three Day Music Festival been a new Plymouth institution since 429 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 14: two thousand and three, but announced it's taking a break 430 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 14: in twenty twenty six. Jay Ish Baylor bella rather and 431 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 14: that's the hospitality in zed Tartanaki branch president. He says, Look, 432 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 14: this is devastating obviously because woemd andcarriages and visitors arom 433 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 14: outside the region to come in and spend money boosting 434 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 14: the economy there. I have never been to womed have you. 435 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 2: No? No, Well, my auntie goes, she enjoys it. 436 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 14: Yes, well, I've only heard good things because loads of 437 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 14: people probably thinking why is she doing that for the 438 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 14: Auckland stores. 439 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 2: I do know I'm going to say that, do you 440 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: have any idea where you are? 441 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 5: Well? 442 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 14: I was, you know, my tenuous link was lots of 443 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 14: Aucklanders go to woman except for Neva Reddy Manu, but 444 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 14: I was planning on going next year. 445 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: Emphasis on tenuous. How's the weather? 446 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: Well? 447 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: Where at which weather are you doing today? Will it 448 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: be Auckland stopt. 449 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 14: Oh my goodness, gracious, well, it's a mids mix a 450 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 14: bag here in Auckland. I'll do touch to make you 451 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 14: tomorrow showers fine this morning, cloud in the afternoon, rain 452 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 14: tonight sixteen the high in Auckland, but not Auckland, Central 453 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 14: Auton Region. 454 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: Aukland Region, Organ City, Neva. Thank you, good to see you. 455 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: Eighteen minutes away from six year. On News Talk c B, 456 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: we got the new numbers on migration out yesterday. We'll 457 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 2: look at those of Paul Spooney before six this morning. Next. 458 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: Mitch McCann is. 459 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: Stateside International Correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance Peace of 460 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,479 Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand. 461 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 2: Business News Talk's that B. It is called it to six. 462 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: Now the US has gone after the Hootie. Sorry, the 463 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: Israel has gone after the Hooties and Yemen. This comes 464 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 2: after they went after Hamas and Kata. Mitch McCann is 465 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: in the US for US this morning. Mitch, Good morning, 466 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: Good morning, Ryan. How are you good. What is the 467 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 2: White House making of all of this? 468 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 15: Yeah, Donald Trump seems to be quite unhappy about what's 469 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 15: been going on here. Yesterday he said, I'm not thrilled 470 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 15: about the whole situation. It's not a good situation, he said. 471 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 15: But I will say this. We want the hostages back, 472 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 15: but we are not thrilled about the way that went down. 473 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 15: The US administration has also said in a statement that 474 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 15: the strikes in Doha yesterday do not advance US goals. 475 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 15: And this is one of the rare times that Donald 476 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 15: Trump has really broken with Israel's Prime Minister Benjaminetna, who 477 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 15: despite what we've seen in recent months, particularly around the 478 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 15: horrible situation in Gaza. What's interesting here is that Donald 479 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 15: Trump will be aware that there has been growing frustration 480 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 15: among the American public around what Israel's doing. There's been 481 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 15: a recent study from Q Research that found fifty three 482 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 15: percent of Americans now have an unfavorable view of Israel, 483 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 15: which is up eleven percent since twenty twenty two. 484 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, tides turning it bit eight now been what's NACES 485 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 2: saying about Mars? 486 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 15: Yes, So NASA has a rover on Mars Ryan called Perseverance. 487 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 15: It's been up there since twenty twenty one and it 488 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 15: carries a drill to penetrate rocks and then test samples. 489 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 15: Now it sees it in the last two hours, or 490 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 15: it has revealed in the last two hours the rover 491 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 15: uncovered rocks in a dry river channel that may hold 492 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 15: potential signs of ancient microscopic life. On the rocks it found, 493 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 15: there are these little specks called poppy seeds, and these 494 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 15: patterns are exactly the same kind found when micro organisms 495 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 15: feed on organic matter here on Earth. So scientists think 496 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 15: the same thing may have happened on Mars in the past, 497 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 15: but they can't confirm it until those samples get back 498 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 15: down and they can test them properly. 499 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: Interesting, what's really going on up there? Much? Thank you? 500 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: It is stitching away from sex Bryan Bridge. More Kiwi 501 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: citizens leaving the country than ever before our net migration 502 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: thirteen thousand in the years of July twenty twenty five. 503 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: Downs sharply from sixty three thousand the year before the 504 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 2: drop comes as migrant arrivals fall twenty percent, departures obviously soaring. 505 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Paul Spoinley is Massi University sociologist of US This morning, Paul, 506 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: Good morning. 507 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: Good morning, Ryan. 508 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 2: Surely it can't get much worse than this. Are we 509 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: at rock bottom? 510 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 6: I hope? So they are still trending down, but it 511 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 6: looks as though the overall net loss is panning out 512 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: at around thirteen thousand, so I'm hoping we have panned out, 513 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 6: bottomed out. 514 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: Where are they going? 515 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 6: Half of them are going to Australia, the rest are 516 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 6: going to other parts of the world. What's concerning is 517 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: the very sudden drop. You've mentioned the drop from last year, 518 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 6: but if we went back two years, the net loss 519 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 6: has gone from one hundred and thirty five thousand to 520 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 6: thirteen thousand, so a ninety percent drop. And what we 521 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: are seeing more people who are leaving and who, let 522 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 6: me rephrase this, there are older people leaving, so we're 523 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 6: seeing We've always seen twenty somethings, but we've seen thirty 524 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: somethings leaving, which suggests that they've been qualified and part 525 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 6: of our workforce and then are leaving to go to 526 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 6: another country. 527 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 2: So that is a concern and being replaced by twenty 528 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: somethings coming in by. 529 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: Twenty something's coming in, yes. And the other thing, there's 530 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 6: some news coming out of Australia that the New Zealand 531 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 6: New Zealand citizens who are arriving there half of them 532 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 6: were not born in New Zealand. Now in the past, 533 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 6: I know it's a common myth that people thought they 534 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 6: came to New Zealand, got residency and then moved to Australia. 535 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 6: In fact that wasn't the pastern most of the people 536 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: who were going to Australia when New Zealand's citizens who'd 537 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 6: been born here. But we're seeing we're seeing more and 538 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 6: more people who have migrated to New Zealand now on 539 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 6: migrating to Australia. 540 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 2: So we're becoming a gateway. 541 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 6: We are becoming a gateway, yes we are. And of 542 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 6: course Ryan just to the Australians have been actively recruiting 543 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 6: in New Zealand for the last couple of years. They're 544 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 6: offering very attractive replace packages to go to Australia. They're 545 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 6: offering much better salaries, better pension conditions. And so we've 546 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 6: got a factor in the fact that New Zealand's a 547 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 6: recruiting ground now for Australia. We train Australian nurses or 548 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 6: police officers. 549 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: What does it say about a country when you've got 550 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: twenty somethings coming in with not much experience, thirty somethings 551 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: with experience leaving and an aging population. 552 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 6: Yes, it's a bit of a recipe've for a disaster. Really, 553 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 6: we've got to we've really got to relook at our 554 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 6: population policy overall, Ryan, because I think there's the other 555 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 6: thing that hadn't mentioned is our declining fertility. So we've 556 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 6: got a bit of a population bomb going on. We've 557 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 6: got major population changes occurring and immigration is part of that. 558 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 6: So we've really got to think who do we want 559 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: to come to New Zealand, what age, what skills? Do 560 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 6: they bring? Money to invest? And you've heard about the 561 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 6: Golden Visa recently, but at the moment that the migration 562 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 6: story is not a particular lily positive one. 563 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: Paul, always appreciate your analysis, even if it's pretty grimmin 564 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 2: and disturbing. This morning, profess Professor Paul Spoonley Massi University 565 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: sociologist knows this stuff. Nine away from six News Talks headb. 566 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with Ryan 567 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: Bridge and one roof Love Where You Live. 568 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 2: News Talks B seven to six News Talks said b 569 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: there was a big fuss made about this documentary and 570 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: the Matercoppa family and Tom Phillips in the last twenty 571 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: four hours and Dame Julie Christie's behind the documentary and 572 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: hasn't spoken. So I texted yesterday see what's going on. 573 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: I can read you this response from Dame Julie Christie. 574 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: We have never asked to shoot anything with the children. 575 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: We have been with the same small group of detectives 576 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: only for the past seven months. We have not seen 577 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: the children at all. We are bide by strict police 578 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: rules at all times. News Talks head b Ryan from 579 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: the studio, Mike, good morning, Hey. Loads of people text 580 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: thing and about their kids. My son's moving to Australia 581 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: next Friday. He's getting a thirty percent pay rise. He's 582 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: a mechanic. But Ryan, both my boys late twenties, both 583 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: with degrees, gone to the UK, says Kate beck Gram 584 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: It's a right of passage. 585 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 10: I've got five children and forty percent of them currently 586 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 10: are overseas. 587 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: Yep, and well they come back. 588 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a good question. We think about that quite often. 589 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 10: My guess would be, no, if one came back, I 590 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 10: wouldn't be shocked. If one came back, I would be 591 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 10: And so there's probably another one potentially going to go overseas. 592 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 10: She's just a bit young at the moment. So potentially 593 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 10: have sixty percent of be kids overseas, and we saw 594 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 10: that coming years ago. That's it's a right passage thing 595 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 10: as opposed to what you're talking about, which I think 596 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 10: is slightly different, which is a I hate New Zealand. 597 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 10: There is no future for me, so I'm bailing. So 598 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 10: so the ones that we've got overseas, we're going anyway, 599 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 10: like so many young people go. But what they've discovered 600 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 10: is the world is a much more interesting place than 601 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 10: it is in New Zealand. Yeah, and unless they necessarily 602 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 10: get married and want to have kids and bring you in, 603 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 10: that's where where the return comes in. 604 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: Yes, not, well, normally it does. But then a number 605 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 2: of my friends. I've got a girlfriend of mine who's 606 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: in London who has had a baby over there, and 607 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: it's like and she's not coming home ever. 608 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 10: Having said that, I was talking to an Avy yesterday. 609 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 10: He spends half his year in London, and he loves London, 610 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 10: and he speaks what's happened to Britain, particularly in the 611 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 10: last year is a disaster. We think we've got problems 612 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 10: here for all of this, Let's go find somewhere else. 613 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 10: I mean Australia if you're following Australia, and one of 614 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 10: our daughters was in Australian till recently, until she moved 615 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 10: to London. Australia's falling apart of the seams, and you know, 616 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 10: if you want to find problems in Australia, there's huge 617 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 10: problems in Australia in terms of the economy. I mean 618 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 10: three a half thousand people laid off the ams in 619 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 10: the other day. 620 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: And if I was in as you know, sunning my 621 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 2: buns on the Gold Coast recently, yes, and they have 622 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,719 Speaker 2: camps there of homeless people, much of whom are New 623 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: Zealanders who cannot afford a one way flight back to 624 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 2: this country. People. 625 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 10: I think I've thought about this a lot, in the 626 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 10: sense that there's a vibe in this country. We're over 627 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 10: the country for a variety of reasons. But I don't 628 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 10: know that many people who leave and go to places 629 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 10: like Australia think it through because the circumstance, you know, 630 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 10: for all of your and my son's got thirty perces. 631 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 10: But yeah, sure, but your average house price in Sydney's 632 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 10: one point seven billion dollars. You know, you're not. No 633 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 10: pay rise in the world covers that gap, and so 634 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 10: so I think it's more about a little bit of 635 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 10: sunshine for X beer. 636 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 2: And well, it depends where you go, right, understand. And 637 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: if you get the job offer before you go, and 638 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 2: you can look at the housing and you can do 639 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: all the numbers and make it work, then yes. But 640 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: if you turn up there and just hope for the best. 641 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 10: If you're on a pathway and you've got a career 642 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 10: mapped out as a young person, then sure, the opportunities 643 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 10: and always have been enormous. But if you're just I'm 644 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 10: sick of New Zealand, I'm going to lob into Sydney 645 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 10: or Brisbane and see what happens. I don't know that 646 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 10: that's necessarily your answer. 647 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: What's on the big show? 648 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 10: Oh, we've got the Justice Minister. This business of shoplifting 649 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 10: and the reverse the owners of proof is an interesting 650 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 10: one also, and given the dot Com decision yesterday, we'll 651 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 10: ask him about that as well. 652 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: All Right, brilliant look forward to it. Mike is with 653 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: your next here on News Talk SeeDB. Have a great day, 654 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: see tomorrow. 655 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 15: You ing. 656 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 6: Your November Live. 657 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: For more from Early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 658 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: to News Talk Set B from five am weekdays, or 659 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.