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Speaker 1: Very so overhere with politics.

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, good afternoon, right, terrible about what's happening

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Speaker 2: in Sydney, obviously, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's shocking and you know we've all been through

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Speaker 3: that in this country. When you think back to the

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Speaker 3: Moss killings when fifty one people were killed, I remember

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Speaker 3: feeling honestly speechless. In your Australian correspondent said that he

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Speaker 3: felt really emotional talking about it. It's just awful that

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Speaker 3: you something like this can happen in a country like

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Speaker 3: Australia and like New Zealand. And of course the perpetrator

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Speaker 3: of the New Zealand Moss shooting wasn't Australian, Brenton Tarrant.

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Speaker 3: But that you can't make You can't play politics with

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Speaker 3: this game. Even though Chloe Swarbrick has been singled out

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Speaker 3: by a number of people because of her statements, but

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Speaker 3: look like us all. It was the shaken Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: who spoke to journalists this afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Terrorism and hate have no place in our societies. Violence

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Speaker 4: of any kind is unacceptable, whether it is targeted at

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Speaker 4: people of due or any other faith. We all need

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Speaker 4: to call out in tolerance when we see it there

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Speaker 4: is room in this world for everyone to live side

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Speaker 4: by side at peace. At the stage, we have no

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Speaker 4: indication that any New Zealanders have been injured in the attack,

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Speaker 4: so let's all continue to look after each other, especially

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Speaker 4: our Australian and our Jewish friends. At this time, you're

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Speaker 4: shocked and appalled to think that something like that could

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Speaker 4: happen in a place where so much fun typically takes place.

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Speaker 4: And I have to be honest, as I watched those

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Speaker 4: images late last night, you know, into the early hours

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Speaker 4: of this morning, you know it's really sickening, and you

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Speaker 4: know your thoughts immediately go to the families of loved

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Speaker 4: ones who lost someone yesterday. You think about the people

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Speaker 4: that are fighting for their lives in hospital right now.

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Speaker 4: There are incredible stories again first responders, but also incredible

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Speaker 4: stories of just people in the local community coming down

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Speaker 4: onto the beach and helping where they could and can.

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Speaker 3: And that amazing man that came to undisarmed.

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Speaker 1: One of the guns, the fruit boner. I'm incredible.

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Speaker 3: I can't even envisage that a father and son would

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Speaker 3: be did you go the.

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Speaker 2: First thing, no, exactly. The first thing you think is, oh,

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Speaker 2: their parents will be absolutely ashamed and then you realize

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Speaker 2: the dead's in honors. Yeah, just hey, Bear's got behave tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The supers we pushed out again.

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Speaker 3: Yes it will be. That'll be the third time it's

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Speaker 3: been pushed out. But no doubt Nichola Willis will have

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Speaker 3: a good argument for it, unless hope she does have

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Speaker 3: a good argument for it, because the debate.

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Speaker 1: Is it happening?

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Speaker 3: What has happened?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm mary on board now.

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Speaker 3: I know, I've I've texted the Taxpayers Union today say well,

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Speaker 3: who's moderating? Where is it at?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 3: And I've heard anything now. But look, I think I

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Speaker 3: think it will be on Thursday, because that's certainly the

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Speaker 3: last word from Nikola Willis on it. But that debate.

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Speaker 3: Luxon says he understands why Nikola Willis wants to put

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Speaker 3: up the government's case against former National Finance Minister Ruth Richardson.

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Speaker 4: I think it is important that she feels she can

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Speaker 4: defend the record of this government and the approach of

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Speaker 4: this government and what we're doing. I think you would

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Speaker 4: have seen last week, you know he had major RMA reform.

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Speaker 4: I think there was well understood that was well supported

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Speaker 4: across the country. This week, we've got HEIFU Tomorrow on Thursday,

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Speaker 4: we'll have the GDP growth numbers. And why I think

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Speaker 4: what's important is that for most New Zealanders, they really

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Speaker 4: focused on Christmas, focus on Christmas shopping, and they need

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Speaker 4: to know that actually we're going into Christmas with the

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Speaker 4: economy building and with good momentum.

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Speaker 3: See, there's always a positive to all these things, right.

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Speaker 1: Nothing positive at your house apparently?

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Speaker 3: Oh what else? Thank you for bringing that up. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's a domestic dispute, and I want to take this

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Speaker 3: opportunity actually to tell you the real story about something

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Speaker 3: my other have said on the breakfast show this morning

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Speaker 3: about the debate.

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Speaker 5: Have her listen to hearther.

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Speaker 3: And I'll give you the real story.

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Speaker 6: I'm here for this debate. But this debate between Nichola

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Speaker 6: and Ruth is getting more and more ridiculous by the

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Speaker 6: day because I don't know if you've heard what the

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Speaker 6: latest is, but there is, for one hot minute, they

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Speaker 6: thought that the moderator should be Winston. Apparently this idea

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Speaker 6: has emanated from within my household that Nicola texts me

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Speaker 6: last night seas it was Barry's idea. So apparently Barry

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Speaker 6: sober came up with the idea that Winston should be

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Speaker 6: the moderator and then pitched it to Nichola's office, and

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Speaker 6: then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank the good Lord.

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Speaker 6: Winston is otherwise occupied and will not be doing it

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Speaker 6: because I'll tell you there's no chance that you would

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Speaker 6: get to hear anything from Nicola or Ruth. It would

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Speaker 6: just be the Winston show talking about I don't know,

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Speaker 6: you know that the evils of capital that no thanks,

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Speaker 6: I want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can

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Speaker 6: defend himself. I think it's a terrible idea. I'm not

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Speaker 6: allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to tell him

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Speaker 6: anymore like his off limits in the house. I'm not

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Speaker 6: allowed to say your idea sucks. So I just say

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Speaker 6: it on the radio to you and then he can

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Speaker 6: defend it later on. We just have we just have that, like,

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Speaker 6: just have a fight through you.

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Speaker 2: But that's how most work.

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Speaker 1: It's normal, geez very it's all out there.

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Speaker 2: I hate to get in the middle of this, but

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Speaker 2: I think that that may have come from me on

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Speaker 2: Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Because I said that you were you were getting Winston involved. No, well,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, but the thing is that it wasn't

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Speaker 3: me that suggested that Winston might be the moderator of

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Speaker 3: the debate.

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Speaker 5: In fact, it was the taxpayer Union itself. You were

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Speaker 5: just talking to him like a good journalist. I went

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Speaker 5: to Winston and said, would you do it? And he

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Speaker 5: said yes, probably, Nichola Willis.

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Speaker 1: I've muddy the waters. I said, you were orchestrating the whole.

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Speaker 3: Thing from thanks right, I'm leaving. I've had enough.

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Speaker 1: Go home to hear there and explain yourself for more

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