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Speaker 1: Now there is a debate about freedom camp camping and

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Speaker 1: the manager of a holiday park has asked the council

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Speaker 1: over there to crack down on freedom camping because apparently

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Speaker 1: the camps are breaking the rules and how long they

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Speaker 1: can stay in one spot, and they also don't support

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Speaker 1: the support the local economy much. Bruce la who is

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Speaker 1: the CEO of the Motor Caravan Association and with us, Hey.

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Speaker 2: Bruce, hi, is that true?

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Speaker 1: Well? Thank you? Is it true that they're breaking the

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Speaker 1: no more than two nights rule and they're not really

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Speaker 1: spending that much money in town?

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Speaker 2: Well two parts of that. I don't know how long

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Speaker 2: they're staying, whether they're breaking the two night rule at all,

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Speaker 2: but they will be spending money in town. So there's

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Speaker 2: no question there's two different things going on there.

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Speaker 1: How do you know they're spending money in town, because

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Speaker 1: if they rock up with all the stuff that they need,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're not.

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Speaker 2: Well. Dy did the research themselves on us back in

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Speaker 2: two twenty, so we've always known because we've always researched

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Speaker 2: our own members about what they spend per night while

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Speaker 2: they're away, and that's normally around about ninety dollars for

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Speaker 2: our members for two an event boo night. That's their

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Speaker 2: freedom camping if they're out and about. So Ndy did

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Speaker 2: their own research on this back in two twenty. They

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Speaker 2: used Fresh Info, a research company, and they came up

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Speaker 2: with a whole list of spending across four different categories,

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Speaker 2: domestic that's US, and then international, those who purchased a vehicle,

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Speaker 2: those who hired a budget vehicle, and those that hired

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Speaker 2: an expensive vehicle. And they came up with daily figures

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Speaker 2: for that, which indicates that they do spend and also

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Speaker 2: goes alongside that how long they spend in the country,

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Speaker 2: which are along with those different categories, so they show

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Speaker 2: substantially that they do contribute to that local economy when

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Speaker 2: they come up.

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Speaker 1: Do you think this is just a case of a

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Speaker 1: holiday park trying to protect its patch and look after

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Speaker 1: its own business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I mean we come across this time after time,

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Speaker 2: but all of us. But you know, she shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: too upset about it, because with the figures that came

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Speaker 2: out of NB even if they say someone's picture one

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Speaker 2: of those little vehicles that we're talking about, which of

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Speaker 2: course are going to be out under the new legislation anyway,

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Speaker 2: But they stayed in average are two hundred and eleven

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Speaker 2: nights in the country, and half of that was freedom camping,

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Speaker 2: and half of that was stayed and paid accommodation, so

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Speaker 2: in a campground because they'll go with there, do their

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Speaker 2: washing and have a shower and all of that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. So they get half of that market anyway,

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Speaker 2: and that's not too dissimilar for the budget and the

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Speaker 2: premium hires short shortest days forty eight days and thirty

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Speaker 2: two nights, but split between commercial campgrounds and freedom camping,

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Speaker 2: so they get a crack out of anyway.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for running as through, really appreciated. Bruce la

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Speaker 1: hall Mote, Caravan Association CEO.

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