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Speaker 1: Doctor Laura back with us, and she's on sleep. We

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Speaker 1: spoke before how much we should be aiming for each night,

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Speaker 1: eight to ten hours. Really, I had no idea that

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Speaker 1: was possible. So of course it also touched on prepping

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Speaker 1: for good sleep or the hygiene stuff routine, good blackout

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Speaker 1: curtains in my case, air plugs. No, I don't have them,

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Speaker 1: but I probably should. But what if that just isn't

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Speaker 1: doing the track? How about the meds. Something that's been

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Speaker 1: in the news lately, caught a bit of a fuss

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Speaker 1: with Kiwi Rails ruling a couple of weeks back, something

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Speaker 1: called zopy clone, Doctor Laura, what's this?

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Speaker 2: Szoper Clone is a hypnotic medication. So basically what it

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Speaker 2: does is it's encouraging our brain to release a neurotransmitter,

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Speaker 2: which is like a chemical in the brain that tells

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Speaker 2: our brain to shut down and sleep mode. So it's

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Speaker 2: trying to enhance that chemical in the brain.

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Speaker 1: Is it like Timing Jiang the hypnotist in pill form?

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Speaker 2: Maybe not quite, but I guess it sort of belongs to.

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Speaker 2: This is a real sedative medication, and some people really

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Speaker 2: disagree with it because they feel quite hung over the

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Speaker 2: next day. They have a yucky taste in their mouth and.

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Speaker 1: It's like metallic gay.

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Speaker 2: Correct. And the main issues that we have around it is,

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Speaker 2: particularly if people are using it regularly, as in every

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Speaker 2: night or alternate night, is that we know that people

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Speaker 2: are their coordination is actually affected the next day, and

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Speaker 2: their ability to respond quickly is also impaired. So things

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Speaker 2: particularly around like driving, particularly like truck driving, you might

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Speaker 2: not be as quick to get on those breaks in

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Speaker 2: an emergency. So that's where we do worry a little

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Speaker 2: bit about balancing the I need to sleep to be

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Speaker 2: coordinated versus some of these medications can actually slow me down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear. It's quite addictive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely is addictive. And that's a other sort of

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Speaker 2: concern that we have as prescribing doctors that we don't

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Speaker 2: want people really becoming reliant on this, and so our

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Speaker 2: best use of this medicine is taking it no more

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Speaker 2: than three times a week. Ideally. My preference is always

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Speaker 2: leaning towards something like a melatonin if we can.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what's that Melatonin is.

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Speaker 2: Not a hypnotic. What it does is it helps us

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Speaker 2: sleep initiation. So melatonin is a hormone in our brains

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Speaker 2: and it is our the hormone that makes us feel

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Speaker 2: like your eyes are getting a bit heavier, just feel

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Speaker 2: a little bit drowsy, that sort of craving to start

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Speaker 2: going to sleep, So it enhances that effect. So we're

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Speaker 2: hoping that if we use that, particularly for those shift

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Speaker 2: workers who need to change their circadian rhythm, it can

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Speaker 2: be quite helpful in resetting the brain to think this

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Speaker 2: is the time to sleep. Okay, it is closer to

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Speaker 2: natural and it's the only thing that we can give

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Speaker 2: if there are children that are requiring something to help

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Speaker 2: with sleep, and you can give this to kids, we can.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the main thing is around the theoretical,

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Speaker 2: which means something that we wonder about but we can't

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Speaker 2: prove and studies is whether or not because melotona is

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Speaker 2: a hormone, can we affect hormonal health of children. That's

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Speaker 2: the main concern about in New Zealand why it's not

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Speaker 2: readily available, But we know again short term use of things,

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Speaker 2: it's very unlikely. But what we're trying to do is

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Speaker 2: make sure that long term use of these things is

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Speaker 2: safe before we can make it readily available for people

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Speaker 2: to purchase from over the counter