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Speaker 1: So as the jobless numbers rise, new approach to deal

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Speaker 1: with the benefits and beneficiaries. The idea is to have

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Speaker 1: individual job plans to help get people back to work. Now,

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Speaker 1: Muriel Willem is with Career guid and Service New Focus

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Speaker 1: and as well as Muriel.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: The sort of advice you offer is what they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: ordinarily have.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Sorry, sorry I couldn't hear you.

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Speaker 1: What sort of advice would you offer that they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have normally?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that they wouldn't normally have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when a person comes to you who doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a job, what sort of advice are you able to

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Speaker 1: offer them that they don't have?

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Speaker 2: As a professional? Okay, So as trends professionals, it's counseling.

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Speaker 2: The first pass is the counseling and then we move

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Speaker 2: into the career focused approach. So within the counseling, you've got,

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Speaker 2: you know, we able to address all the mental health issues,

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Speaker 2: the the other work based issues that people may have had,

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Speaker 2: maybe with bullying, with being made with and we still

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Speaker 2: people really suffering from that post COVID effects, with not

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Speaker 2: being able to get back on the horse, and those

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Speaker 2: are the skills that we have as strength professionals to

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Speaker 2: be able to address with our clients.

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Speaker 1: You deal with the hardcore into the market. In other words,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people lose their jobs they just simply

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Speaker 1: go out and get another one. These are people who

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason can't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is definitely a lot of that. Definitely there's

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Speaker 2: some barriers there. If people go to a courage practitioner,

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Speaker 2: that's because they need some extra support in saying that,

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Speaker 2: those who may not feel that way are still finding

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Speaker 2: it really challenging because there's just not many jobs out there.

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Speaker 1: No, that's although it's important to point out at the

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Speaker 1: moment that no one gets pinged or sanctioned for not

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Speaker 1: having a job. The sanction is for people who are

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Speaker 1: not looking for a job how much of its skills base.

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Speaker 1: They just don't have skills.

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Speaker 2: I think that those they get pained generally. I mean,

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Speaker 2: clearly speaking, I would say that the majority of the

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Speaker 2: people that we work with they want a job. So

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Speaker 2: you've got people who have been unemployed for a long time,

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Speaker 2: they don't have for example, they might have been left

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Speaker 2: behind in terms of the computer skills, and that's an

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Speaker 2: area where MSD potentially will be able to support them.

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Speaker 2: But then we've got issues with people who don't have transport,

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Speaker 2: they don't have a reliable cow, they need to receive

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Speaker 2: the license, and all those issues are they become quite

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Speaker 2: major because we don't have the systems to allow for

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Speaker 2: all that to happen and people to go relatively quickly

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Speaker 2: back into employment.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the difficulty. I suppose that then comes to

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Speaker 1: life skills, doesn't it and how much you want to

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Speaker 1: fix for yourself as opposed to relying on other people

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Speaker 1: to do it. Murial, appreciate your insight. Muriel William with

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