1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Now that music is a little bit of a clue 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: because funk pop duo Foley have been in the headlines. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: They were nominated for three Auta Rower Music Awards, alongside 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: two at PRA Silver Scroll Awards, and their songs as 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: you can Hear that quite catch you. Let's take a 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: little bit more of a listen just before we get 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: into it and their new album That's Life Baby drops 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: on February twenty eighth. Gabe Everett, he's a vocalist from 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the duo, and he joins me, Now, good morning, good morning, 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: how's it going good? Thanks? Hey, Let's start from the 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: beginning when you and Ash both gave up full time 12 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: work and decided to put music first. In fact, was 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: that the beginning. 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean the beginning takes on many forms for us. 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: We've actually known each other for well over a decade 16 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: and we've been friends for eco as long. So the 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: origin story of Foley is that we both sort of 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: shared this love of pop music and sort of slowly 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: fell into songwriting together, and yeah, crafted a bunch of 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: stuff that we really liked and have slowly just started 21 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: building it out, and yeah, creating this whole sort of 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: universe of music, which is really really exciting and yeah, 23 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: and now we get to do it a majority of 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: the time of our lives, which is great. 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: How old were you when you got involved in creating 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: music or just participating playing or singing or whatever. 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: I've been doing music since I was about four. My 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: mom put me in recorder lessons. Then I transitioned onto 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: the flute and then went to the dark side and 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: picked up a guitar around age thirteen. 31 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: Did you stop the flute at that stage or did 32 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: you just keep it up? I look, i'd dabble, yeah. 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, I can't do much on the flute these days. 34 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: I guess actually, because some people learn musical instruments without 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: even being able to re a note, whereas you would, 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: I guess, read music as well as when you're writing 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: it as well. 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean I actually was drawn to the 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: guitar because I didn't have to read music. So I 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: learned how to do it and thought it was a bit, 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: you know, a bit bogus and a bit restrictive, But 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, music theory is so important anyway, so you 43 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: sort of learn the bits that you want to know. 44 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, with the guitar, I just felt like I 45 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: had a bit more freedom, So that was the main reason. 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: And so how old were you when you and Ash 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: started doing music together. 48 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: We were in our early twenties or maybe maybe twenty. Yeah, 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: it was around the time of university for both of us. 50 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: We just finished high school, our sort of separate high 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: school bands had broken up, and we had decided to 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: write music, as I mentioned earlier, and it all just 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: kind of continued from there. 54 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: So what was it a big decision to give up 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: full time work and just go that's that we're going 56 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: full on with the with the music. Mhmm. Yeah. 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: I think we've had some We've had a lot of 58 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,559 Speaker 2: success and support before that point, and I think creatively 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: you kind of need to be all in. So we 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: decided to give it a nudge because we had developed 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: like this amazing group of supporters and creative sort of 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: confidence that we felt that we could like bounce off 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: and work with and kind of create a full full 64 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: time job from of them. That makes sense, right, So yeah, 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: it is one of those things where you kind of 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: have to lend yourself completely to the music and parts, 67 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: but you know, we still do stuff outside of music, 68 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: you know, day to day We try not to put 69 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: as much financial pressure on the project as possible and 70 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: just sort of create music as purely as possible. 71 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: You know. 72 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: We see things in the world, we take them in, 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: we process them in our own creative ways, and we 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: put them back out again. That's kind of aggestive part. 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: Because some bands sometimes start with a couple of people 76 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: who work together and then they decide we better go 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and get a bass player and a drama and all that, 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: and then they form a band. Was there a discussion 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: with you guys between each other about sticking as a 80 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: duo or do we need to get some other people 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: on board. 82 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's never been a discussion, but we always 83 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: play with the band live. So when we do our 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: tracks live, we have a drummer Elijah White, and Holly 85 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: Webster on bass, and we kind of recreate the songs 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: for a live environment. So we have sort of big 87 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: jam sessions and we'll make the parts a bit more 88 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: jazzy because they're both jazz trained, as is Ash, and 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 2: we try and make it sort of knife edge kind 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: of balance experience, you know what I mean, Like we 91 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: want the energy of life performance rather than just like 92 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: strictly what you hear in the tracks. So yeah, we 93 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: feel that that like kind of relates to the audience 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 2: a bit more. 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: I was actually going to ask how much how different 96 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the studio experiences for listeners versus are going to one 97 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: of your live gigs. 98 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: M M, Yeah, well I think I mean the songs 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 2: are still the same, You're still recognize them. Yeah, But like, 100 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: I think the joy of Folly Show is the energy 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: that comes from us sort of trying to be as 102 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: as trying to have as much musicianship as possible, right 103 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 2: and interacting with the crowd and the people that come 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: to the shows, like often meet each other at the 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: shows and they form their own little friend groups and 106 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: their own little communities within our fan base. So that's 107 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 2: kind of the main thing that we strive for, and 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: that's that's what's really special about the Folly Live Show. 109 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: So, Gabe, you and Ash your working relationship, who's the boss? 110 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: Got to ask you know, you both think you're the 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 1: boss or is it one of those things where it's 112 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: you know. 113 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, well our boss is probably our manager at this point. 114 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: But creatively we try and do as many things equally 115 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: as possible. You know, we obviously have our strengths and 116 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: sort of parts that we lean on other people for. 117 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: But we try and make ideas as collaborative as possible, 118 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: and we try and bring as many collaborators on as possible. 119 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: With pop music, it's all about kind of processing emotion 120 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: and figuring out how to package something within a really tight, 121 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: sort of succinct song. And I think that the more 122 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: experiences you have in life, you know, throughout a group 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: of people, the better that song is going to be. 124 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: So we're always like bouncing ideas off each other, and look, 125 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: if one of us doesn't like it, we kind of 126 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: just try and find a new one because there's bound 127 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: to be a better idea that we both like. 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: What comes first, is that the lyrics and the story 129 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: you want to tell, or do you have a tune 130 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: that comes to mind and let's squeeze some words into it. 131 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: Recently it's more the tune, but it changes all the time, honestly. 132 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: I mean we usually start by just having a chat 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: about how we're feeling and what's going on in our lives, 134 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: you know, just as friends, and you know, whoever we're 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: working with that day will pull up some music, some drums, 136 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: maybe a guitar line, or whatever and slowly start singing 137 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: gibberish to each other and then we'll get the melodies right. 138 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: And then this sounds so cliche, but the song and 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: the meaning kind of just falls out of the melody, 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. You kind of hear words and 141 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: you kind of sort of expand your experience through that. 142 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: So well, that's a bit airy fairy, but it works. 143 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: If I say one of your next singles is called gibberish, 144 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: will know whether ideas just came from that way? 145 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. 146 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: Hey, where did the name Foley come from? 147 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: It's actually, well, do you know what foley is? 148 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, sound effects and studios and people treading on 149 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: gravel and all sorts of It's fascinating old form of soundtrack, 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: isn't it for movies? It is? 151 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like slapping cabbages for punches and things like that. 152 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: So we had it as a sort of a placeholder 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: name and a sort of a word that we were into. 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: And that was because I Sho had been watching a 155 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: lot of Blue Planet, which is, you know, the nature 156 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: documentary where they actually record all of the foley live, 157 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: So it's not actually folly, it's not fake, it's real, real, 158 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: bird like flapping its wings and it's just fascinating. And 159 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: we kind of have taken it to mean, you know, 160 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: our lives are their own TV show or movie, and 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: our songs are the soundtrack and the sound effects for that. 162 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: So who are your inspirations? Do you? Guys have people 163 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: that you look to for inspirational not necessarily look to, 164 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 1: but just find that they happen to influence you a bit. M. 165 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the biggest inspiration I have is like 166 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: eighties and seventies funk, So Prince is my number one, 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson and George Benson and just all of those 168 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: sort of classic incredible pop stars. Ashes is more on 169 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 2: the Fleetwood Mac side. There's sort of neo soul and 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: like Hiatus Coyote, and then just like so many New 171 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: Zealand artists that we listened to as well, like you know, 172 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Leisure and one of our collaborator as well, So has 173 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: just put out an amazing album that we've listened to 174 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: a bunch. Yeah, it's a real mixture, but those are 175 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 2: our key ones. 176 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: How would you describe your music to people who haven't 177 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: heard it? M. 178 00:09:52,600 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: It's like a it's it's glittery, it's silvery and kind 179 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: of energetic, joyful. 180 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Gibberish, right that stuff. Hey, Gabe, thanks so much for 181 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: your time this morning. Good luck with all those gigs 182 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: on the new and the new release. I've been fantastic 183 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: talking to you. Thanks term Likewise, Yes, that was Gabe 184 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: from the funk pop duo Foley and Remember. If you 185 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: want to hear more from their new album, which is 186 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: called That's Life, baby drops at the end of the 187 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: month on February the twenty eighth. 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