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Speaker 1: In Francis, Tuesday morning. Catherine Field, morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Now, these are rists that we heard about over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Do we know who they are? Are they part of

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Speaker 1: a wider group? Are they sophisticated? What do we know?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what we know is two males aged in their thirties,

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Speaker 2: one French Algerian and another one French but origin from Mali

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Speaker 2: in West Africa, were taken into custody on Saturday evening.

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Speaker 2: One of the men was actually at Charldonville Airport getting

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Speaker 2: ready to get on a plane to Algeria. Now police

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Speaker 2: say that was why they moved right then. They'd been

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Speaker 2: following these guys since about Wednesday, hoping that they would

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Speaker 2: lead them to the masterminds. They knew that these two

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Speaker 2: were part of the gang, but they knew that they

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Speaker 2: went the mastermind, So nab this guy at the airport,

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Speaker 2: nabbed the other one at the same time, he was

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Speaker 2: in a northern Paris suburb. Since then, they've been held

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Speaker 2: at the organized crime headquarters of Paris Police. Apparently they

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Speaker 2: are saying nothing as if we needed it, just to

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Speaker 2: show that how far from a James Bond type heister.

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Speaker 2: This was Mike. Police trace them because both men have

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Speaker 2: got quite a wrap sheet. They've experienced thieves known to police.

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Speaker 2: One of the men they found him via the DNA

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Speaker 2: that was on the discarded motorbike. How much that they

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Speaker 2: left behind in the rush to get away. The other

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Speaker 2: man in the rush to get away, he left behind

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Speaker 2: his hiver's jacket and they managed to get the DNA

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Speaker 2: off the fibers of that. So police still don't have

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Speaker 2: any clue where those Crown jewels are. They're hoping to

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Speaker 2: get to it sometime soon. But you're still looking for

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Speaker 2: those two who fled on the scooters. They're still at large,

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Speaker 2: and everyone's still hoping that the jewels are somewhere ready

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Speaker 2: to be collected.

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Speaker 1: How long do they get to hold them for before

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Speaker 1: they got a stick them and caught with something.

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Speaker 2: Oh a long time, nineties six hours, mike. So they've

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Speaker 2: got them right through all Wednesday. But of course if

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Speaker 2: they still believe that, then they put them before a

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Speaker 2: judge and the judge says, well they should stay there

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Speaker 2: for a bit longer.

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Speaker 1: Now this is separate the Candie Owens thing, but this

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Speaker 1: case that involves the harassment of Bridget Macron. How many

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Speaker 1: people are involved with this and what have they done?

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Speaker 2: Allegedly allegedly at ten in the dark. They had their

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Speaker 2: first afternoon in court just today a couple of hours ago.

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Speaker 2: They left eight men two women, aged between forty one

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Speaker 2: and sixty years old. They are charged with online harassment

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Speaker 2: targeting Bridget Macarn with these same allegations about her sexuality

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Speaker 2: and about her gender identity. They all say that they're

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Speaker 2: not guilty. They say that that yes, these were online,

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Speaker 2: but they weren't addressed to the first lady. There was

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Speaker 2: nothing they said to show that she would actually read them.

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Speaker 2: Among those who are charged a spiritual medium, a conspiracy theorist,

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Speaker 2: a teacher, an I technician, IT technician, and a real

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Speaker 2: estate agent. The reason the Macrons took this case was

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Speaker 2: that they felt it had just gone too far. This

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Speaker 2: online harassment had gone on and on, as well as

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Speaker 2: that case that may well come to court soon in

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Speaker 2: the US, Candy Sowens. They just say that this had

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Speaker 2: to stop. All these allegations that Macron Brigitte was born

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Speaker 2: a man, that she's actually her brother, just went on

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Speaker 2: and on. It felt guilty. These defendants in court in

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Speaker 2: Paris could face up to two years.

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Speaker 1: Improvement It's very interesting the legals, isn't it, Because if

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Speaker 1: you're not addressing it directly to the person and you're

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Speaker 1: on the net, it's like and under what Laura, you

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Speaker 1: are arguing? You can't say? I mean, you're talking free

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Speaker 1: speech here, I guess, aren't you? To a degree?

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Speaker 2: Then is why this case has come up again. Originally,

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Speaker 2: Bridget Macrone won a case against these ten. It was

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Speaker 2: rejected on appeal because she'd tried that before the courts

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Speaker 2: under a law which Dick she didn't take defamation into account.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's incredibly difficult to find the right law

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Speaker 2: at the right time. And as I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: if you hadn't watched, you wouldn't have known. But of course,

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Speaker 2: one of the women up before the court to day

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Speaker 2: she did actually publish a four hour long video of

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Speaker 2: her thoughts of why bridges on just.

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Speaker 1: The four just the four hours. Okay, how's mister lock

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Speaker 1: On you second time round? Going se ce running things nicely?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I still haven't got a budget mine. Everyone's looking

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Speaker 2: a little bit worried because there's less than sixty days

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Speaker 2: to go, counting it down because apparently it's the same

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Speaker 2: number of shopping days until Christmas. But everyone's a bit

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Speaker 2: worried because Moody's late on Friday change the outlook for

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Speaker 2: the French economy to negative, simply because public finances are bloated.

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Speaker 2: The minority government is having to struggle to get this

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Speaker 2: through bill by bill by bill, and the socials still

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Speaker 2: say that unless there are significant texting preas is on

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Speaker 2: the wealthy, they'll vote it down later this week and

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Speaker 2: bring the government down.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well we'll catch up, and that's what we've got

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