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Speaker 1: Pace talks in Saudi Arabia. It's the US and Russia

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Speaker 1: and at this point that appears about it. So who's there?

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Speaker 1: What comes out of it? Olga Imshina is with the

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Speaker 1: BBC and is well, there's some good morning you with

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Speaker 1: us morning. Yes, I'm here, very good, indeed, Levrov, Marca Rubio.

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Speaker 1: Who else is there? What's the expectation from Russia? Do

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Speaker 1: we know?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's the I guess the question, which is everyone's

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Speaker 2: mind at the moment. What we see from Labo's public

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Speaker 2: statement he made briefly before boarding the plane to soud Arabia,

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Speaker 2: is that he feels quite impoltant, quite pleased with the

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Speaker 2: current position in which Russia is. So he made a

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Speaker 2: few scenic and bold comments, sort of quite provocative, but

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Speaker 2: you know, that's the usual state of affairs for him.

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Speaker 2: So publicly, Russia presents itself as if it has like

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Speaker 2: almost up a hand on those negotiations. But what Warrov

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Speaker 2: is not mentioning is that there are a few issues

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Speaker 2: which are very important to Russia. For example, you've Crane

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Speaker 2: still controls a part of Russian territory in the coast region,

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Speaker 2: which he has gained as a part of last year's

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Speaker 2: incursion into Russia. And this is something which borders put

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Speaker 2: In a lot, but which he doesn't like to be

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Speaker 2: talking about. So and in order to achieve Putting the objectives.

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Speaker 2: In order to achieve the peace, Russia still needs to

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Speaker 2: give something in to trade something off and what they

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Speaker 2: will be ready to give and train that, you know,

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Speaker 2: which will show how really these negotiations are developing. So

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Speaker 2: they try to put on a brave face, but it's

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Speaker 2: not all nice and funny for them.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaping a heat slightly. But the way I see

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Speaker 1: this unfolding is Russia gets some territory, Ukraine gets some

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Speaker 1: guarantees about future invasions, America gets some rareerss and some minerals,

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Speaker 1: and that's about it. Is that possible, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's possible, but details a crucial here. You know, what

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Speaker 2: are the security guarantees for Ukraine? What Russia causesecurity guarantees

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Speaker 2: for itself. We have already heard that Britain is suggesting

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Speaker 2: to put its troops on the ground in Ukraine as

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Speaker 2: a part of a security guarantee. And that's something which

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Speaker 2: is can be a nightmare for Putting, because he claims

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Speaker 2: he started this war, this invasion in order to push

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Speaker 2: native forces away, and now he's, you know, half step

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Speaker 2: he's a half step away from having native soldiers exactly

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Speaker 2: on the border of the territory he is controlling.

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Speaker 1: In Russia itself, do people want the end of the war?

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Speaker 1: Are they following this closely? Do they see this as

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Speaker 1: the conclusion?

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course people in Russia are following this closely.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to say what the mood is because

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Speaker 2: Russia is an auster Italian country and if you speak

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Speaker 2: too much or speak against the government line, you easily

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Speaker 2: end up in prison for seven eight years. But all

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Speaker 2: the posts are showing that the majority of the population

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Speaker 2: are eager for the war to stop on the one hand.

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Speaker 2: On the other hand, or at least ten to twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of opulation are quite howky, So for them, Putting

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Speaker 2: will need to somehow show a nice face. So he

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Speaker 2: will need to sell them this piece deals so not

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Speaker 2: so easy. I mean Putting doesn't have to worry about elections.

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Speaker 2: Of course it's an also Ittarian state. But still he'll

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Speaker 2: need to find a way to sell it to the

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Speaker 2: Russian public.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm good to talk to you. Appreciate it very

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