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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at BND. Your weekend off the right way.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Tam News Talks.

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Speaker 4: Good morning, Welcome to News talk Ed vy Jack Tam

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Speaker 4: with you in the hot seat through the midday today.

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Speaker 4: The film is Marty Supreme, stars good old heart throb

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Speaker 4: Timothy Shamalay he of the Perfect here and it looks

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Speaker 4: like a really interesting story. So it follows a star

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Speaker 4: table tennis player in the nineteen fifties with a kind

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Speaker 4: of less energy unique kind of energy anyway, Marty Supreme

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Speaker 4: has done extremely well in the OSCAR nominations, not quite

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Speaker 4: as well as Sinners, which I think is set the

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Speaker 4: all time record sixteen nominations. In this week's Oscar's list,

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Speaker 4: Marty Supreme has won nine nods, including a nod for

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Speaker 4: Best Film. And we're going to catch up with our

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Speaker 4: film reviewer before ten o'clock as Marty Supreme hits New

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Speaker 4: Zealand Cinemas to get her thoughts on that as well

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Speaker 4: as that our feature interview after ten this morning. Is

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Speaker 4: a guy who has traveled the world. A Kiwi musician

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Speaker 4: who has traveled the world playing all sorts of interesting

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Speaker 4: instruments are from your trumpet to your trombone to your tubers.

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Speaker 4: He's got a fair set of pipes on him himself,

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Speaker 4: and his name is David Fuel. He's going to be

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Speaker 4: performing alongside the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo when they return

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Speaker 4: to New Zealand for the first time in a decade

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Speaker 4: very soon. So he's going to be with us right

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Speaker 4: after ten o'clock this morning. Right now, it is eight

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Speaker 4: minutes past nine.

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Speaker 5: Check team.

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Speaker 4: It's less than a month now to my son's first birthday.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, I know the cliches are true. It goes

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Speaker 4: so fast and honestly, whenever anyone asks me about my

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Speaker 4: experience of becoming a father, I just I feel like

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Speaker 4: I have nothing new to offer the tens of thousands

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Speaker 4: I always say, I just feel like all the cliches

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Speaker 4: are true. The intensity of the love, that's true. The

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Speaker 4: joy is true, the exhaustion is true. Just how quickly

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Speaker 4: it all goes Yep, that's true too. It is all true.

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Speaker 4: Everything is true. But one of the things I've come

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Speaker 4: to appreciate more I think is the difference between theory

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Speaker 4: before becoming a parent. You know, I understood the theory,

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Speaker 4: but it's taken experiencing it to properly get it. Do

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Speaker 4: in my marrow, if you like. Case in point, newborn

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Speaker 4: babies almost never look very good. They're always a bit squished, right,

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Speaker 4: a bit alien. They always look a bit like a

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Speaker 4: like a like a bald marsupial or something. And yet

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Speaker 4: when you're a new parent, you're sure that your baby

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Speaker 4: is different, perfect and symmetrical and gorgeous in every way.

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Speaker 4: Now I knew this before I had our son. I'd

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Speaker 4: observed the phenomenon in close friends. And yet when our

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Speaker 4: I thought, I know what to think. But you know,

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Speaker 4: I know, new parents get new parents' goggles. But this

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Speaker 4: is different. This is definitely different. I thought eleven. I

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Speaker 4: he looks like a newborn. But it took experiencing that

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Speaker 4: to properly get it. Now I would love for this

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to use that point to illustrate something else.

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Speaker 4: Before having our boy, other parents told me how having

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Speaker 4: quite affecting. And this morning I just cannot stop thinking

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Speaker 4: of the poor families at Mount Monganui, especially the parents

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Speaker 4: The response ef it is ongoing this morning, But just

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Speaker 4: It's just to say that after Mount Monganui, I couldn't

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Speaker 4: in tensely, but we all know there's nothing that any

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Speaker 4: Some things are just left up to chance and to luck,

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Speaker 4: Jack Team, We're going to keep you up to date

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Speaker 4: throughout the morning as the response continues in Mount Monganu.

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Speaker 4: We've got reporters at the scene of course, monitoring things.

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Speaker 4: The crews have been working there throughout the night, and

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Speaker 4: the first to know. There's been various dramas with the

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Speaker 4: weather overnight as well, and the forecast isn't great, so

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Speaker 4: the weather conditions there, but I'm going to keep you

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Speaker 4: Hebe seventeen minutes past nine on News Talks. He'd be Jack.

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Speaker 4: Forty five years ago, I was about to become a

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Speaker 4: first time dad. That now seems like eons ago. But overnight,

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Speaker 4: Kevin Milt is here with us this morning. Morning.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, Well, Jack, you'll recall last week we talked about

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Speaker 2: Mongonui and yeah, yeah, our family had just been up

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Speaker 2: there and and I described it as, you know, a

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Speaker 4: I mean I think, look, would it be I don't

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Speaker 2: I would? I would think it, my I would. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: it would certainly be in that top bunch. Yeah, extraordinary place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you'll wonder about its future. But oh well,

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Speaker 4: No, well seen, Now, Kevin, you want to celebrate New

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Speaker 4: Zealand's only locally created sport.

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Speaker 2: This morning, Yes, how cool is it that the World

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Speaker 2: manou Champs are about to take place in twelve qualifying

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Speaker 2: events in nine cities around the mort. If you make

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Speaker 2: cool is that this is a celebration of a quintessential

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Speaker 2: Kiwi activity that, when you think about it, has taken

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Speaker 2: place here for over a century, probably longer. It's probably

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Speaker 2: ask Jack, no, I am not a Manu practitioner myself.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I didn't realize Manu Tongua was such a

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Speaker 2: many will have done a type of manu when they

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Speaker 2: There are freestyle variations such as te Tapara, the staple,

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Speaker 2: I so want Manu to succeed. I see this year,

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Speaker 2: for the first time, one of the qualifying events is

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Speaker 4: Why not? Why not? I mean, given what have been

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Speaker 4: ending to the Olympics lately, it probably won't be too

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Speaker 4: I love this claim that it's New Zealand's only only sport.

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Speaker 4: I think we should throw up in the lights see

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Speaker 4: if anyone can can challenge us. I was thinking about

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Speaker 4: it this morning. I thought, oh, I wonder about touch

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Speaker 4: and no, that was invented in South Sydney. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: I'm sure there is something somewhere, you know, But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I'm with you. So have you ever attempted

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Speaker 2: I only heard about a man who and my age

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Speaker 4: Come on, Kevin, don't give us that line.

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Speaker 2: I sat down because because they've got these great platforms

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Speaker 2: hundreds can turn up for these comps and they just

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Speaker 8: Enough for me.

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Speaker 4: You might say that age is a barrier. I can

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Speaker 4: say that physiology is a barrier. I think there's a

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Speaker 4: certain body type that lends itself to better mone who's

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Speaker 4: and it's not the body type. I've got a sort

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Speaker 4: if anyone can challenge Kevin's claim that maybe Mane Who's

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Speaker 4: So if you've got any ideas, by all means let

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Speaker 4: Okay, we've got three good suggestions here. Okay, so Key

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Speaker 4: The Oscar noms are out this week, My goodness, some

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Speaker 7: The money will.

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Speaker 4: Follow, right, starring Timothy Chamalat, Gwyneth Paltrow. Friend Dresher tell

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Speaker 12: Okay, So this is a film by Josh Safety, and

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Speaker 12: he has in the past directed films along with his

433
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Speaker 12: brother Benny, and then they did a film and you

434
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Speaker 12: probably know Uncut Gems and Good Time, and then they

435
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Speaker 12: sort of separated and Josh has done Marty Supreme and

436
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Speaker 12: Benny went on to do the Smashing Machine with the Rock.

437
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Speaker 12: It didn't do quite so well in Oscar on was

438
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Speaker 12: they got one non first sort of makeup and hair,

439
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Speaker 12: I believe, but the Rock missed out on the best Actor, which,

440
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Speaker 12: to be HONESTUI, I'm not hugely surprised anyway. Josh Safety,

441
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Speaker 12: he's a director that everybody is talking about. I saw

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Speaker 12: this film late last year. I was very fortunate to

443
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Speaker 12: get an early screening, but I was embargoed and I

444
00:24:56,693 --> 00:24:59,413
Speaker 12: couldn't say anything about it, and people would say to me,

445
00:24:59,453 --> 00:25:01,253
Speaker 12: what's it like? And then I just look at them

446
00:25:01,293 --> 00:25:06,213
Speaker 12: silently wanting to burst because I haven't seen the film

447
00:25:06,253 --> 00:25:08,213
Speaker 12: like this in a long time. We know these guys

448
00:25:08,253 --> 00:25:11,173
Speaker 12: are well known for their New York based, chaotic, gritty

449
00:25:11,213 --> 00:25:14,133
Speaker 12: kind of films, but this one really takes it to

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Speaker 12: a whole other level. And I had an actual visceral

451
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Speaker 12: response watching this film. Thankfully, there weren't many people in

452
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Speaker 12: the room, so as I talked to the screen or

453
00:25:21,973 --> 00:25:25,213
Speaker 12: was just like what no, oh, my god. Like Timothy

454
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Speaker 12: Charlamage's character is absolutely infuriating. He's one of the most

455
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Speaker 12: annoying characters you'll possibly see on screen this year. But

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Speaker 12: his dedication to playing this role is incredible. And look,

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Speaker 12: his table tennis is remarkable.

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Speaker 3: They do they do?

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Speaker 12: They did put the balls in in post, but the

460
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Speaker 12: choreography and the way they've shot it, and you believe

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Speaker 12: that he is a world class table tennis back. Okay,

462
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Speaker 12: So basically, very loosely based on a real life character

463
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Speaker 12: from the nineteen fifties, Marty the Needle Riseman. He was

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Speaker 12: a US table table tennis champ. As I watched this film,

465
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Speaker 12: all I could think of was, I'm going to have

466
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Speaker 12: to google this because this is really his life. This

467
00:26:07,613 --> 00:26:11,333
Speaker 12: is outrageous. This is just incredible, but it is actually

468
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Speaker 12: very loosely based on his life. And timdy Shaller play

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Speaker 12: Shallow Mat plays Marty Mauser, and he is just this malthy,

470
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Speaker 12: live wide character willing to do whatever it takes to

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Speaker 12: get to this table tennis championship in Britain. So he's

472
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Speaker 12: trying to make this money and off we go on

473
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Speaker 12: this journey. The thing is that everybody that kind of

474
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Speaker 12: gets sucked into this narcissis's life suffers, and it's like

475
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Speaker 12: he just doesn't notice. At heart of this film, what

476
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Speaker 12: they are trying to say is we no longer dream big,

477
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Speaker 12: We no longer put everything on the line for the

478
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Speaker 12: American dream.

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Speaker 5: We've lost our ambition, you know.

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Speaker 12: And this is a very extreme way of getting that

481
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Speaker 12: message across, but there is quite an interesting sort of

482
00:26:53,213 --> 00:26:56,293
Speaker 12: underlying message at the heart of all this chaos. You're

483
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Speaker 12: either going to love it or hate it. The casting

484
00:26:59,093 --> 00:27:02,453
Speaker 12: is fantastic, it is outrageous, it's nuts, it's highly entertaining,

485
00:27:04,413 --> 00:27:08,973
Speaker 12: the tone is unforgivingly exhausting, and it's filled with inexcusable characters.

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Speaker 12: Go enjoy and see what you think.

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Speaker 5: You've got to see it.

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Speaker 7: You've got to see it.

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Speaker 4: It sounds good. Yeah, I mean it sounds yeah unusual.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know,

491
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Speaker 4: even seeing the trailer with Timo Timothy Chamlay, I'm like,

492
00:27:26,133 --> 00:27:28,573
Speaker 4: oh yeah, this is this is gonna be worth watching. Okay.

493
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Speaker 4: So that is Marty's supremet showing and cinemas at the moment.

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Speaker 4: Next up, a film screening on Netflix starring Matt Damon

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Speaker 4: and Ben Affleck. This is the rep.

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Speaker 13: From the outside looking in, it seems simple, seize the cash,

497
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Speaker 13: count it and turn it in.

498
00:27:47,773 --> 00:27:49,373
Speaker 5: On the inside, it's different.

499
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Speaker 13: We gotta be smart right now, we got this money

500
00:27:54,733 --> 00:28:01,453
Speaker 13: mass stay after radios, no call out, Okay, tell us

501
00:28:01,773 --> 00:28:02,453
Speaker 13: about the rip.

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Speaker 12: Always enjoy Matt Damien, Ben Afflick together. They have such

503
00:28:06,493 --> 00:28:08,893
Speaker 12: great chemistry. Always sit down and watch a film that

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Speaker 12: they make. This one is screening on Netflix, which I

505
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Speaker 12: think is probably exactly where it should be. This is

506
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Speaker 12: the kind of film that you might want to watch tonight.

507
00:28:15,693 --> 00:28:17,253
Speaker 12: If you've got nothing else on and you're in at

508
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Speaker 12: home and you want some easy entertainment, then this is

509
00:28:20,773 --> 00:28:23,653
Speaker 12: probably it. It takes a very simple premise. The story

510
00:28:23,693 --> 00:28:27,453
Speaker 12: just unfolds under one night and it kind of convolutes

511
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Speaker 12: it into what they were hoping would be a very

512
00:28:30,413 --> 00:28:33,373
Speaker 12: sort of twisty, turny thriller filled the surprises, but I

513
00:28:33,413 --> 00:28:35,493
Speaker 12: think you can sort of see most of them coming.

514
00:28:35,933 --> 00:28:38,253
Speaker 12: The setup is a bit clunky, but look, just stick

515
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:40,693
Speaker 12: with it. It does kind of fall into place and

516
00:28:40,693 --> 00:28:42,173
Speaker 12: it gets into a little bit of a rhythm as

517
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Speaker 12: we follow this group of tactical narcotics cops.

518
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Speaker 7: They go to.

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Speaker 12: They sort of do a They enter a house, they

520
00:28:53,773 --> 00:28:56,613
Speaker 12: know that there's money, drug money there, they're going to take.

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00:28:56,413 --> 00:28:57,853
Speaker 5: It, you know, the job.

522
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Speaker 12: But when they get there, there's a huge amount of

523
00:29:00,453 --> 00:29:02,493
Speaker 12: money there, and then all of a sudden, you're not

524
00:29:02,533 --> 00:29:04,213
Speaker 12: sure who's a good guy and who's a bad guy,

525
00:29:04,213 --> 00:29:06,773
Speaker 12: and are the cops actually going to take this money

526
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Speaker 12: for themselves?

527
00:29:07,413 --> 00:29:08,253
Speaker 5: Are they going to hand it in?

528
00:29:08,293 --> 00:29:09,973
Speaker 12: And who can you trust and who can't you trust?

529
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Speaker 5: And off we go.

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Speaker 12: So it's it's kind of as simple as that. It's

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Speaker 12: a great cast. We don't really get to know any

532
00:29:16,013 --> 00:29:18,453
Speaker 12: of these characters in any great depth, but we don't

533
00:29:18,493 --> 00:29:20,813
Speaker 12: need to. It's just sort of an enjoyable.

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00:29:20,413 --> 00:29:23,013
Speaker 4: Right Yeah, Okay, well that sounds good. So that's the

535
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:25,853
Speaker 4: rip that's on Netflix. Money Supreme is in cinemas and

536
00:29:25,853 --> 00:29:28,333
Speaker 4: all the details for those films will be on the website. Francisca,

537
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Speaker 4: what did you think of the Oscar nominations more broadly,

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Speaker 4: were you surprised at sixteen nods for Sinners? Ah, that's

539
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:39,973
Speaker 4: pretty that's the highest ever.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, no, it's impressive. But you know what, we watched

541
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Speaker 12: that film again the other day. It is it is screening,

542
00:29:45,733 --> 00:29:48,453
Speaker 12: I think now at the moment, but you know what,

543
00:29:48,573 --> 00:29:49,853
Speaker 12: I saw it on the big screen, and on the

544
00:29:49,853 --> 00:29:52,613
Speaker 12: big screen it did take an awful lot of those boxes.

545
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Speaker 12: The only thing I will probably say about the Oscars,

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Speaker 12: I mean, look, there's lots of always sort of I'd

547
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Speaker 12: say it's a pretty good representation of movies naicet year.

548
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Speaker 12: The only issue I have is that if one should

549
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Speaker 12: not be in Best Picture, that is a joke.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: No Tellin.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's probably my one and only and I think

553
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Speaker 14: it probably should have been replaced with the Iranian film.

554
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Speaker 12: It was just an accident, and then I would have gone, yep, Nope,

555
00:30:26,413 --> 00:30:28,933
Speaker 12: that's a pretty good representative, you know, that's that they

556
00:30:28,933 --> 00:30:30,733
Speaker 12: should all be there, But that was the only one

557
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Speaker 12: that sort of struck me. I think it's going to

558
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Speaker 12: be really interesting to see how things unfold. It's hard

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Speaker 12: to pick just one. Actually, when I looked at all

560
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Speaker 12: carries are good. Okay, those two are probably up for it.

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Speaker 12: Those two, you know, like it wasn't sometimes you know,

562
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Speaker 12: it's kind of obviously you think it's going to take

563
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Speaker 12: it away. But it's going to be really interesting to

564
00:30:48,573 --> 00:30:49,093
Speaker 12: watch a match.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good. Okay, Hey, thanks Francisco. We will catch

566
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Speaker 4: again next weekend. That is Francisco Regan, our film reviewer

567
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Speaker 4: this morning. Don't forget after ten o'clock this morning if

568
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Speaker 4: you just feel like a weekend on the couch. All good,

569
00:31:01,173 --> 00:31:03,653
Speaker 4: no judgment here, we'll go to your screen time picks

570
00:31:03,653 --> 00:31:06,333
Speaker 4: for this weekend shows to watch your stream at home.

571
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Speaker 4: Home in this week's recommendations, have a couple of crackers

572
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Speaker 4: for you. So that's after ten o'clock right now. It's

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Speaker 4: called it a ten. Our cook is in next with

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Speaker 4: her mac and corn and cheese recipe.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping a conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend US talk sedbeen to.

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Speaker 4: Ten on New Talks. Our cook is nicky work since

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Speaker 4: she's here with us this morning. Good morning, yes.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 15: Have you it's been a.

581
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Speaker 4: Week it has been a week. Indeed, have you been

582
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Speaker 4: hitting the fresh corn this season?

583
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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 15: Look, I really have, but only really recently, when I

585
00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:44,213
Speaker 15: heard myself say last week to our listeners, before you

586
00:31:44,253 --> 00:31:46,053
Speaker 15: know it, corn will be out to get in there

587
00:31:46,133 --> 00:31:49,133
Speaker 15: sort of thing. And honestly, I had a cob last

588
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Speaker 15: night with a friend and I just steamed them. And

589
00:31:52,213 --> 00:31:54,573
Speaker 15: I just steamed these beautiful fresh cobs and then we

590
00:31:54,613 --> 00:31:58,133
Speaker 15: had them with melted butter and grated parmesan and chili flakes,

591
00:31:58,813 --> 00:32:02,173
Speaker 15: and honestly, we were both just sitting there going, this

592
00:32:02,253 --> 00:32:05,773
Speaker 15: is amazing, so good, right.

593
00:32:06,573 --> 00:32:10,133
Speaker 4: When it's like, you know it like truly bursts with sweetness.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it really is. Yeah, I know. Well at least

595
00:32:13,693 --> 00:32:15,693
Speaker 15: one of your boys is old enough to enjoy them.

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00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:18,533
Speaker 4: Yes, that's true. Although if we mash up a little bit,

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00:32:18,533 --> 00:32:22,693
Speaker 4: I'm sure that oh he's getting he's getting into everything

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00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:24,893
Speaker 4: anything that's a bit sweet as well. He's i think

599
00:32:25,013 --> 00:32:28,933
Speaker 4: unfortunately inherited my tastes, so yeah, he do it as well.

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00:32:28,973 --> 00:32:31,973
Speaker 4: But this sounds like a real comfort recipe this morning.

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00:32:32,013 --> 00:32:34,013
Speaker 4: You're elevating mac and cheese to mac and cry.

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00:32:34,173 --> 00:32:36,693
Speaker 15: Look, I really am, I'm sort of elevating it and

603
00:32:36,813 --> 00:32:38,973
Speaker 15: lightening it up too, because I was never a huge

604
00:32:38,973 --> 00:32:41,293
Speaker 15: fan of that sort of gluggy kind of mac and cheese.

605
00:32:41,293 --> 00:32:43,853
Speaker 15: I would make it sometimes and I was always disappointed.

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Speaker 15: I'd have it out at some of those diners and

607
00:32:45,973 --> 00:32:47,493
Speaker 15: things in the States, and it was always just a

608
00:32:47,493 --> 00:32:50,213
Speaker 15: bit gluggy for me. So look I am, I'm lightning

609
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Speaker 15: it up here. And the reason in the ways that

610
00:32:52,413 --> 00:32:54,493
Speaker 15: I lighten it up are two things. So this is

611
00:32:54,493 --> 00:32:56,853
Speaker 15: going to serve too easily. You could double it triple

612
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Speaker 15: at whatever, two hundred grams of large hold pasta or

613
00:33:00,693 --> 00:33:03,013
Speaker 15: pasta shells, but you don't want to use the little

614
00:33:03,053 --> 00:33:06,293
Speaker 15: tight macaroni elbows. I think that's your biggest mistake, surprise,

615
00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:09,333
Speaker 15: because then it becomes all about the pasta. Was you

616
00:33:09,453 --> 00:33:13,173
Speaker 15: use the large old ones like Origatni or something like that,

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Speaker 15: and you just get all this filling in them kind

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Speaker 15: of thing as its it bakes.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 15: And I also use stock in stock and milk, not

621
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Speaker 15: just all milk in there. So I cooked the pasta obviously,

622
00:33:23,893 --> 00:33:27,173
Speaker 15: lots of well salted boiling water until just al dante,

623
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Speaker 15: and then reserve a cup of the pasta water.

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Speaker 5: When you drain that.

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Speaker 15: Because we're going to use some of that in our

626
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Speaker 15: white sauce, our cheese sauce, melts and butter, and a saucepan,

627
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Speaker 15: nice big saucepan, and saute and onion until it's beautiful

628
00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:41,213
Speaker 15: and soft. You could add garlic if you wanted. At

629
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Speaker 15: this point, you could do leaks if they were in season.

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Speaker 15: Add two or three rashes of chopped up bacon. Fry

631
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Speaker 15: that for three to four minutes. So game, we've got flavor.

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Speaker 15: You can leave that out if you want. You could

633
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Speaker 15: replace it with little bits of sausage. Is quite lovely

634
00:33:53,253 --> 00:33:53,613
Speaker 15: as well.

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Speaker 5: And then.

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Speaker 15: So you are speaking, my legs, I love it.

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Speaker 5: That's great.

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Speaker 15: Yes, that's a great idea. And then take that out

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Speaker 15: with a slotted spoon. So you've left all those fats

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Speaker 15: in the saucepan and just set those that onion and

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Speaker 15: the chili so will bake in the side. Now you're

642
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Speaker 15: going to make your cheese sauce in the same pan.

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Speaker 15: You don't in the same pot you don't have to

644
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Speaker 15: wash in. And all that melts and butter. I use

645
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Speaker 15: about sixty grams of butter and then three big taboons

646
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Speaker 15: of plain flour steir that to sort of make a paste.

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Speaker 15: And then add two hundred and fifty meals of milk.

648
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Speaker 15: You could sort of do it in two lots if

649
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Speaker 15: you like. I love to put in a good tablespoon

650
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:37,013
Speaker 15: of mustard. Powder is a real key here. You could

651
00:34:37,093 --> 00:34:39,773
Speaker 15: use whole grain mustard if you wanted. A bay leaf's

652
00:34:39,773 --> 00:34:42,573
Speaker 15: a lovely idea. Gives a lovely bay sort of you know,

653
00:34:42,653 --> 00:34:47,213
Speaker 15: bass flavor, half teaspoons, salt and pepper. Steer that until

654
00:34:47,253 --> 00:34:50,853
Speaker 15: you've got a lovely kind of thick fixed sauce. Pour

655
00:34:50,893 --> 00:34:52,413
Speaker 15: in the rest of the milk so that brings you

656
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Speaker 15: up to you know, two hundred and fifty meals. Pour

657
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Speaker 15: in some stock about one hundred meals of liquid stock

658
00:34:57,773 --> 00:35:00,813
Speaker 15: if you've got it, and steer that so that you've

659
00:35:00,813 --> 00:35:04,093
Speaker 15: got this lovely cheat sort of sauce at the stage

660
00:35:04,093 --> 00:35:06,293
Speaker 15: that's not quite cheesy yet. Cock it for about ten

661
00:35:06,453 --> 00:35:08,773
Speaker 15: minutes two jacked, and people often don't cook it enough

662
00:35:08,813 --> 00:35:11,013
Speaker 15: so you can still taste the flour, but really cook

663
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Speaker 15: that down, and then whiskin enough of the pasta water

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Speaker 15: at this stage so that you've got a pouring cream

665
00:35:17,693 --> 00:35:21,493
Speaker 15: consistency that's quite thin. But you don't want to thick

666
00:35:21,533 --> 00:35:23,613
Speaker 15: bechamel because that ends up to be glug at the

667
00:35:23,613 --> 00:35:25,293
Speaker 15: other end, because now we're going to stir in a

668
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Speaker 15: whole lot of cheese, about one hundred to one hundred

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Speaker 15: and fifty grams of grated cheese. You could use cheddar, parmesan, guiere, crumble, blue,

670
00:35:32,813 --> 00:35:35,533
Speaker 15: whatever you've got, really throw it in there, and of

671
00:35:35,573 --> 00:35:39,173
Speaker 15: course cheese will melt, but it will also stiffen up

672
00:35:39,173 --> 00:35:41,493
Speaker 15: the sauce as well. And then I stir in a

673
00:35:41,533 --> 00:35:44,453
Speaker 15: lovely big cup of chopped spinach leaves and a lovely

674
00:35:44,493 --> 00:35:47,933
Speaker 15: big cup of corn kernels at the stage they can

675
00:35:47,973 --> 00:35:50,333
Speaker 15: just be fresh cut off the cob. And then we're

676
00:35:50,333 --> 00:35:53,053
Speaker 15: going to bake this, you know, mix that all of

677
00:35:53,093 --> 00:35:56,373
Speaker 15: that together. Put your cooked pasta in there, cook your onion,

678
00:35:56,453 --> 00:35:59,453
Speaker 15: your bacon or cherizza back in there, and then stir it.

679
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:02,053
Speaker 15: Also it's really well combined. Put it in a lovely

680
00:36:02,093 --> 00:36:05,573
Speaker 15: big ovenproof dish, Sprinkle over some bread crumbs, maybe some

681
00:36:05,693 --> 00:36:08,573
Speaker 15: extra chees at this point, and bake for twenty or

682
00:36:08,613 --> 00:36:11,533
Speaker 15: twenty five minutes, and you've got something that is really

683
00:36:11,613 --> 00:36:14,453
Speaker 15: kind of much looser than you would imagine, and really

684
00:36:14,533 --> 00:36:17,653
Speaker 15: light and beautiful and fresh for our season and real

685
00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:19,733
Speaker 15: comfort food, which I think is what many around the

686
00:36:19,773 --> 00:36:21,173
Speaker 15: country are needing right now.

687
00:36:20,973 --> 00:36:23,893
Speaker 4: So what is it about that actually allows it to

688
00:36:23,893 --> 00:36:26,733
Speaker 4: be so light compared to you know, some of your

689
00:36:26,813 --> 00:36:30,413
Speaker 4: more really stodgy traditional manageese.

690
00:36:30,853 --> 00:36:33,213
Speaker 15: I think people make the sauce way too thick, so

691
00:36:33,253 --> 00:36:36,533
Speaker 15: that's what happens. So when I say pouring cream consistency,

692
00:36:36,573 --> 00:36:39,613
Speaker 15: people will think, oh, that's wey too thin. And the

693
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Speaker 15: first person, my darling friend Fiona, who showed me this

694
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Speaker 15: how she made it. I was thinking, oh, Fiona, that's way.

695
00:36:45,733 --> 00:36:46,933
Speaker 5: Too thin that sauce.

696
00:36:47,293 --> 00:36:49,013
Speaker 15: But once you've edded the cheese, and then once you've

697
00:36:49,013 --> 00:36:50,893
Speaker 15: also baked it off and you've got some more of

698
00:36:50,933 --> 00:36:54,173
Speaker 15: those starches coming out of the pasta, you really get

699
00:36:54,173 --> 00:36:58,213
Speaker 15: this beautiful creamy creaminess. And I also like using stock.

700
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Speaker 4: Not just milk, because I find.

701
00:36:59,853 --> 00:37:02,253
Speaker 15: The milkiness is just a bit much, you know. But

702
00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:04,093
Speaker 15: you know, I really took your point about needing to

703
00:37:04,133 --> 00:37:06,933
Speaker 15: experience something this morning, and you know my tape cormetters.

704
00:37:06,973 --> 00:37:09,973
Speaker 15: Having been through a natural disaster with Gabriel down here,

705
00:37:10,093 --> 00:37:12,373
Speaker 15: I was always an empathetic person. Used to watch the

706
00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:15,773
Speaker 15: news and watch Queenstown flood and used to go, oh, dear,

707
00:37:15,853 --> 00:37:18,413
Speaker 15: poor things. Once you've been through it. You just get

708
00:37:18,493 --> 00:37:22,373
Speaker 15: chills every time it happens, because you go, we know

709
00:37:22,493 --> 00:37:24,933
Speaker 15: what this is like, and it's it's really tough. So look,

710
00:37:24,933 --> 00:37:28,413
Speaker 15: if you're in a position to take a big part

711
00:37:28,453 --> 00:37:31,733
Speaker 15: of this, a big you know, yeah, dish of this

712
00:37:31,853 --> 00:37:34,053
Speaker 15: across to some neighbors who you think might need it

713
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:35,653
Speaker 15: now because everyone's I think.

714
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Speaker 4: It is a great feeling this Yeah, yeah, it's a

715
00:37:38,173 --> 00:37:41,773
Speaker 4: great comforts Hey, thank you so much, Nicky, very soon

716
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Speaker 4: cook Necky works That recipe of course will be on

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Speaker 4: News Talks heb dot co dot nz. Right now, it's

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Speaker 4: six to ten.

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Speaker 1: Giving U the inside scoop on all you need to

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Speaker 1: know Saturday morning with Jack Team News Talks.

721
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Speaker 4: Oh here you go. See everyone's experimenting. My go to

722
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Speaker 4: is just to add a little bit of chody so

723
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Speaker 4: to basically everything and has putten me a note to

724
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Speaker 4: say Jack, when it comes to mind mac and cheese,

725
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Speaker 4: I add a small tin of crushed pineapple, really tasty.

726
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Speaker 4: That's going to be controversial and as we all know,

727
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Speaker 4: but you do you. As I always say on Saturday mornings,

728
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Speaker 4: this is a no judgment zone and so you do you.

729
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Speaker 4: Thanks for feedback. Ninety two. Ninety two is the tech

730
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Speaker 4: number if you want to send us a message. After

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Speaker 4: ten o'clock this morning, Spotify has quietly been trialing a

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Speaker 4: little feature in New Zealand that they say has been

733
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Speaker 4: really successful and they're now looking to roll it out

734
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Speaker 4: around the world. I'm going to tell you more about

735
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Speaker 4: that and as well as that our feature interview right

736
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Speaker 4: after the ten o'clock news. If you're into your pipes,

737
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Speaker 4: you're into your grand jip, you are going to love

738
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Speaker 4: the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo. It's returning to New Zealand

739
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:50,293
Speaker 4: for the first time in a decade and this tattoo

740
00:38:50,333 --> 00:38:55,013
Speaker 4: has a distinctly Pacific flavor. So one of the key

741
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Speaker 4: performers in the New Zealand Army Band who's going to

742
00:38:57,253 --> 00:38:58,853
Speaker 4: be performing at the tattoo is going to be with

743
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Speaker 4: us right after the news. It's almost ten. News is next.

744
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Speaker 4: It's Saturday morning and this is news Took's HEADBS.

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Speaker 1: It's cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with

746
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Speaker 1: Jack Tame News Talks at B.

747
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Speaker 4: Good morning, welcome to new Talks at BE Jack Tame

748
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Speaker 4: with you through to midday. And that is of course

749
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Speaker 4: the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo, a globally acclaimed celebration of

750
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Speaker 4: military tradition, music, ceremony and cultural performance. It has now

751
00:39:59,133 --> 00:40:01,333
Speaker 4: been running for just over seventy five years and in

752
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Speaker 4: that time has only ever been performed overseas on five occasions.

753
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Speaker 4: And now, for the first time in a decade, the

754
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Speaker 4: Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo is returning to New Zealand, performing

755
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Speaker 4: for the very first time at Aucklands Eden Park next

756
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Speaker 4: month with the theme The Heroes Who Made Us Staff.

757
00:40:18,333 --> 00:40:20,853
Speaker 4: Sergeant David Few is a standout member of the New

758
00:40:20,933 --> 00:40:24,213
Speaker 4: Zealand Defense Force Army Band and we'll be taking part

759
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Speaker 4: in what is set to be an extraordinary event in

760
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Speaker 4: David's with us this morning, kild A, good.

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Speaker 5: Morning, child, A good morning to you.

762
00:40:29,933 --> 00:40:32,693
Speaker 4: You're in Paradise, Burnham, my old neck of the woods,

763
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Speaker 4: right in the eye of the Northwest. So how was

764
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Speaker 4: Paradise this morning?

765
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Speaker 8: Paradise this morning was overtasked and high of maybe seventeen degrees.

766
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Speaker 4: Ah, very good, very good. Hey. I want to start

767
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Speaker 4: with a really basic question for anyone who is a

768
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Speaker 4: little uninitiated, what actually is the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo.

769
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Speaker 8: I guess it has a vault over the years it's

770
00:40:59,973 --> 00:41:03,173
Speaker 8: last year, it celebrated it's seventy fifth anniversary of the

771
00:41:03,453 --> 00:41:06,893
Speaker 8: tattoo in Edinburgh and it was all always been an

772
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Speaker 8: opportunity to feature initially a lot of the capabilities of

773
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Speaker 8: the British forces. So in the past they used to

774
00:41:15,013 --> 00:41:22,413
Speaker 8: have demonstrations of you know, the dogs doing their working thing,

775
00:41:22,573 --> 00:41:25,813
Speaker 8: the gym people throwing out champolines in the middle of

776
00:41:25,853 --> 00:41:30,373
Speaker 8: the Esplanade and Edinburgh, and also some of the capabilities

777
00:41:30,373 --> 00:41:34,533
Speaker 8: of their their forces with either the Navy where they'll

778
00:41:34,613 --> 00:41:38,493
Speaker 8: step on a boat or also bring on their soldiers

779
00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:43,173
Speaker 8: to produce some drills. Over the years, it certainly has

780
00:41:43,213 --> 00:41:48,173
Speaker 8: evolved from that to also almost the production highlighting not

781
00:41:48,213 --> 00:41:53,173
Speaker 8: only the instrumentalists from the UK, but incorporating some from

782
00:41:53,533 --> 00:41:56,573
Speaker 8: overseas as well to what it is now, which is

783
00:41:56,613 --> 00:41:59,973
Speaker 8: a real bucket list for those who want to experience

784
00:42:00,053 --> 00:42:05,533
Speaker 8: the Edinburgh Tattoo watching it. With the tattoo coming to Auckland,

785
00:42:06,053 --> 00:42:09,933
Speaker 8: we will be featuring pretty much a top three groups

786
00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:14,693
Speaker 8: which generally try and I guess over the UK they

787
00:42:14,813 --> 00:42:19,613
Speaker 8: bring one of the top groups there, but however, coming

788
00:42:19,613 --> 00:42:22,613
Speaker 8: to New Zealand and Australia they try and bring the

789
00:42:22,773 --> 00:42:25,693
Speaker 8: very best groups, and so that's going to be the

790
00:42:25,693 --> 00:42:29,653
Speaker 8: top secret John Call from Switzerland and also His Majesty

791
00:42:29,693 --> 00:42:33,733
Speaker 8: the King's Guards Band and Drill Team from Norway and

792
00:42:33,813 --> 00:42:35,093
Speaker 8: the New Zealand Army Band.

793
00:42:35,733 --> 00:42:38,613
Speaker 4: Oh superb Oh that's fantastic. So we get all three

794
00:42:38,853 --> 00:42:41,093
Speaker 4: that they really put on a show in New Zealand.

795
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:43,693
Speaker 4: Does that mean, though, David, that you'll be pulling the

796
00:42:43,733 --> 00:42:47,373
Speaker 4: trampolines out and attempting a triple axel or something like that.

797
00:42:47,973 --> 00:42:53,293
Speaker 8: Only in the accommodation, which could be disastrous.

798
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:55,293
Speaker 4: It's it's a sort of extravaganzerra where you get to

799
00:42:55,453 --> 00:42:57,973
Speaker 4: you get to see performances from a range of different

800
00:42:58,013 --> 00:43:02,613
Speaker 4: defense forces and bands and performers around the world. So

801
00:43:02,973 --> 00:43:04,853
Speaker 4: tell us about your history with the tattoo.

802
00:43:05,893 --> 00:43:09,173
Speaker 8: I've been unfortunate in my prayer with the New Zealand

803
00:43:09,213 --> 00:43:13,573
Speaker 8: Army event to the tender be or Edinburgh Military Tattoo

804
00:43:13,773 --> 00:43:19,413
Speaker 8: in Edinburgh seven times Wow, which is absolutely amazing. And

805
00:43:19,813 --> 00:43:23,373
Speaker 8: I certainly do not take that for granted, and I

806
00:43:23,413 --> 00:43:26,613
Speaker 8: really checked myself in I'm there because it's probably easy

807
00:43:27,773 --> 00:43:30,933
Speaker 8: midway through the season to sort of get a little

808
00:43:30,973 --> 00:43:34,733
Speaker 8: bit complacent. However, I'm aware that it is a bucket

809
00:43:34,773 --> 00:43:37,013
Speaker 8: with for many people, and a lot of people come

810
00:43:37,053 --> 00:43:39,853
Speaker 8: there just to experience Edinburgh at that stage with all

811
00:43:39,893 --> 00:43:44,733
Speaker 8: the French festivals that are going on, but also the tattoo,

812
00:43:45,373 --> 00:43:50,093
Speaker 8: and so you only can devolve your best otherwise sort

813
00:43:50,093 --> 00:43:50,973
Speaker 8: of selling them short.

814
00:43:52,413 --> 00:43:54,853
Speaker 4: I think the show was last year, about a decade ago,

815
00:43:54,893 --> 00:43:56,253
Speaker 4: twenty sixteen in Wellington.

816
00:43:56,933 --> 00:44:00,253
Speaker 8: In Wellington, yes, and I was very fortunate that it

817
00:44:00,373 --> 00:44:05,013
Speaker 8: was there because Wetington's my hometown. So managed to get

818
00:44:05,053 --> 00:44:07,653
Speaker 8: some of the family in as performers and and they

819
00:44:07,693 --> 00:44:10,293
Speaker 8: had to sneak up on the the.

820
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Speaker 4: End of the stage out of the stage as well. Well,

821
00:44:15,573 --> 00:44:18,453
Speaker 4: that's I mean, there are so many performers, I can

822
00:44:18,493 --> 00:44:20,573
Speaker 4: imagine a bit of I'm sure they wouldn't do that now,

823
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:22,693
Speaker 4: but you know, you can. You can imagine that the

824
00:44:22,973 --> 00:44:24,973
Speaker 4: sort of right to the opportunity if you wanted to

825
00:44:25,013 --> 00:44:26,373
Speaker 4: slip up there and have a bit of a go.

826
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Speaker 4: And the performers from different groups around the world, is

827
00:44:30,773 --> 00:44:33,013
Speaker 4: it the sort of opportunity that they get to actually

828
00:44:33,413 --> 00:44:34,613
Speaker 4: meet and mix with each other.

829
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And we're quite fortunate. We've got a very strong

830
00:44:38,093 --> 00:44:41,453
Speaker 8: relationship with our friends from the Pacific and their serviceman's

831
00:44:41,493 --> 00:44:44,613
Speaker 8: there and so it is a great time to be

832
00:44:44,693 --> 00:44:47,813
Speaker 8: able to catch up with everybody and see how their

833
00:44:48,373 --> 00:44:51,813
Speaker 8: their wives are and catching up with their families and

834
00:44:51,893 --> 00:44:55,533
Speaker 8: inquirying about their their progression. So I know this year

835
00:44:55,533 --> 00:45:02,093
Speaker 8: we've got His Royal Majesty's Armed Forces banned from Tonga

836
00:45:03,013 --> 00:45:07,293
Speaker 8: and we will certainly catch up with them. Then we

837
00:45:07,453 --> 00:45:11,733
Speaker 8: have a program here in these zealands with the MAP students,

838
00:45:11,733 --> 00:45:14,813
Speaker 8: which we call Mutual Assistance Program, which allows us to

839
00:45:14,853 --> 00:45:17,653
Speaker 8: bring one or two from those service bands either from

840
00:45:17,653 --> 00:45:24,013
Speaker 8: saying Samoa Tonga Yeah, to come and basically learn from

841
00:45:24,053 --> 00:45:28,213
Speaker 8: us in a ten month immersion musical so that they

842
00:45:28,253 --> 00:45:30,253
Speaker 8: can take in as much as they can before we

843
00:45:30,293 --> 00:45:35,173
Speaker 8: send them off to bear fruits and of the studies

844
00:45:35,173 --> 00:45:35,813
Speaker 8: that they've learned.

845
00:45:35,933 --> 00:45:40,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh superb. Yeah, you know, David, I I'm sure

846
00:45:40,213 --> 00:45:42,373
Speaker 4: I'm speaking for a lot of listeners here. I love

847
00:45:42,453 --> 00:45:45,053
Speaker 4: the Army Band. I love the Army Band. It every

848
00:45:45,133 --> 00:45:47,373
Speaker 4: time I hear them perform or see them perform, I think,

849
00:45:47,413 --> 00:45:49,733
Speaker 4: my gosh, I've got to do this more often. I've

850
00:45:49,773 --> 00:45:52,573
Speaker 4: got to prioritize this because often it's really can be

851
00:45:52,653 --> 00:45:55,813
Speaker 4: quite moving, and it's a rare thing compared to say

852
00:45:55,853 --> 00:45:58,133
Speaker 4: fifty years ago, where you know, a lot of us,

853
00:45:58,373 --> 00:46:00,413
Speaker 4: you know a lot of people would have seen brass

854
00:46:00,453 --> 00:46:03,093
Speaker 4: bands and the like performing in public a whole lot more.

855
00:46:03,333 --> 00:46:06,253
Speaker 4: It's quite a it's quite a stirring experience. But I

856
00:46:06,533 --> 00:46:09,173
Speaker 4: some really simple questions about the Army band that I'm

857
00:46:09,213 --> 00:46:11,813
Speaker 4: hoping you can help with. How does it actually work

858
00:46:11,933 --> 00:46:15,933
Speaker 4: for active service people? How do you carve out time

859
00:46:16,013 --> 00:46:17,853
Speaker 4: to practice and perform and all that kind of thing,

860
00:46:17,853 --> 00:46:21,453
Speaker 4: and how did those responsibilities compare it to your day

861
00:46:21,493 --> 00:46:22,133
Speaker 4: to day stuff.

862
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:26,133
Speaker 8: Well, generally that is our day to day as musicians

863
00:46:26,173 --> 00:46:30,893
Speaker 8: and the defense source. We are given that opportunity to

864
00:46:30,933 --> 00:46:34,813
Speaker 8: certainly work on our craft, and it does vary from

865
00:46:35,213 --> 00:46:36,973
Speaker 8: day to day as to what we'll be working on.

866
00:46:37,613 --> 00:46:40,013
Speaker 8: I know the focus for the next couple of weeks

867
00:46:40,013 --> 00:46:46,413
Speaker 8: before the tattoo is on our marching and our musicianship. However,

868
00:46:47,573 --> 00:46:49,333
Speaker 8: we do need to sort of cover off some of

869
00:46:49,373 --> 00:46:51,853
Speaker 8: the other things. They've got military training which will be

870
00:46:51,893 --> 00:46:57,813
Speaker 8: taking place just after the tattoo, But that there we

871
00:46:57,933 --> 00:47:00,733
Speaker 8: probably put on the wall paint maybe ten days out

872
00:47:00,733 --> 00:47:05,413
Speaker 8: of every year just to get our weapons training and

873
00:47:05,453 --> 00:47:10,533
Speaker 8: our fieldcraft sort of squared away. But the main focus

874
00:47:10,573 --> 00:47:13,653
Speaker 8: is as musicians and is they like to say, the

875
00:47:13,733 --> 00:47:18,173
Speaker 8: faith of the military and the good news stories that

876
00:47:18,613 --> 00:47:25,213
Speaker 8: come through. I guess during the COVID lockdown, we were

877
00:47:25,213 --> 00:47:30,293
Speaker 8: pretty active online with some of our at home videos

878
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:33,693
Speaker 8: and it's one of those things that we take real

879
00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:36,053
Speaker 8: pride in over that time.

880
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:39,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right. So is it quite a sort after

881
00:47:39,853 --> 00:47:42,573
Speaker 4: position being a member of the band? I can imagine

882
00:47:42,573 --> 00:47:42,933
Speaker 4: it will be.

883
00:47:44,213 --> 00:47:49,533
Speaker 8: Yes, it is. We are always you know, there is

884
00:47:49,653 --> 00:47:53,453
Speaker 8: always tether as people either decide to form way some

885
00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:59,853
Speaker 8: of their training with university or just seek other other avenues.

886
00:48:00,173 --> 00:48:04,053
Speaker 8: But there's always, you know, a desire for people who

887
00:48:04,093 --> 00:48:09,533
Speaker 8: are looking at options for music career. Having been I

888
00:48:09,573 --> 00:48:13,053
Speaker 8: guess part of that crew where you were sort of

889
00:48:13,093 --> 00:48:16,453
Speaker 8: digging and working at the same time, there was always

890
00:48:16,453 --> 00:48:19,773
Speaker 8: that values and troughs being busy, and then the cupboard

891
00:48:19,853 --> 00:48:22,093
Speaker 8: is bere because there's not much work going on as

892
00:48:22,093 --> 00:48:25,653
Speaker 8: a musician. So it just gives us that you know,

893
00:48:25,773 --> 00:48:29,853
Speaker 8: that security a security absolutely.

894
00:48:29,373 --> 00:48:30,773
Speaker 4: And so do you do you do you have to

895
00:48:30,853 --> 00:48:33,493
Speaker 4: join the army first or join the defense force first

896
00:48:33,573 --> 00:48:37,053
Speaker 4: for the other services bands, or do you like do

897
00:48:37,093 --> 00:48:39,813
Speaker 4: your basic training and then once that's all complete, they say, oh,

898
00:48:39,973 --> 00:48:44,973
Speaker 4: you're pretty handy, David, instead of digging ditches or manning

899
00:48:45,013 --> 00:48:47,493
Speaker 4: this armored personnel carrier. How do you feel about playing

900
00:48:47,493 --> 00:48:48,053
Speaker 4: the trombone.

901
00:48:49,213 --> 00:48:53,653
Speaker 8: It does happen sometimes that way, although these days it

902
00:48:53,733 --> 00:48:57,733
Speaker 8: is as because it's a specialized position. We do undertake auditions.

903
00:48:57,773 --> 00:49:02,013
Speaker 8: So if anyone expresses an interest in becoming a musicians

904
00:49:02,053 --> 00:49:07,573
Speaker 8: and defense force then they do undertake or screening and

905
00:49:07,653 --> 00:49:10,853
Speaker 8: then an audition process just to sort of see how

906
00:49:10,853 --> 00:49:15,773
Speaker 8: they'd fit in this environment. Obviously it's not necessary for everyone,

907
00:49:16,613 --> 00:49:20,293
Speaker 8: but you know, once it's achieved and once they're in,

908
00:49:20,693 --> 00:49:24,653
Speaker 8: then they undertake all that training necessary to get to

909
00:49:24,693 --> 00:49:27,293
Speaker 8: the next stage of their military development.

910
00:49:27,813 --> 00:49:29,293
Speaker 4: And so you've been with the Army band for a

911
00:49:29,293 --> 00:49:31,093
Speaker 4: few years now, but like you said, you're in a

912
00:49:31,133 --> 00:49:33,493
Speaker 4: previous life. You were doing the muso thing. You were

913
00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:36,093
Speaker 4: gigging around and you know you were you were you

914
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:39,293
Speaker 4: were living the musician's life. So how did you find

915
00:49:39,293 --> 00:49:42,413
Speaker 4: it coming into the military, Coming into the army and

916
00:49:42,453 --> 00:49:46,053
Speaker 4: all of a sudden having the rigidity that comes from

917
00:49:46,173 --> 00:49:47,293
Speaker 4: from being in the defense force.

918
00:49:48,173 --> 00:49:53,093
Speaker 8: Transition was difficult, but it was one which was necessary.

919
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:55,253
Speaker 8: I guess I had a young family and it was

920
00:49:56,213 --> 00:49:58,693
Speaker 8: one of those situations where it was like, Okay, I

921
00:49:58,733 --> 00:50:02,213
Speaker 8: need to knuckle down and take on that challenge. And

922
00:50:02,893 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 8: you know, certainly at that stage it gave me the

923
00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:08,933
Speaker 8: opportunity not only who have that security as a musician,

924
00:50:09,493 --> 00:50:14,253
Speaker 8: but some of the other benefits of healthcare and and

925
00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:18,253
Speaker 8: throe pt that was conducted during normal office hours.

926
00:50:18,413 --> 00:50:20,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I can see there's a lot of

927
00:50:20,813 --> 00:50:25,653
Speaker 4: upside a. So you are a spectacular singer, but you

928
00:50:25,733 --> 00:50:29,133
Speaker 4: are also a multi instrumentalist. So give us the list.

929
00:50:29,213 --> 00:50:34,053
Speaker 4: What would you say that you can play well?

930
00:50:34,413 --> 00:50:38,213
Speaker 8: During my audition process at that stage, I was playing

931
00:50:38,213 --> 00:50:41,533
Speaker 8: for the Central Ethel's Band in Willington. But I did

932
00:50:41,573 --> 00:50:48,213
Speaker 8: audition and I auditioned on trumpet, played piano, played bass, guitar,

933
00:50:48,573 --> 00:50:51,973
Speaker 8: played some trombone, and did some singing and then I

934
00:50:52,053 --> 00:50:59,013
Speaker 8: got the audition panel to sing with me. It seemed

935
00:50:59,013 --> 00:50:59,373
Speaker 8: to work.

936
00:50:59,533 --> 00:51:02,053
Speaker 4: But yeah, my god, I mean that you could just

937
00:51:02,093 --> 00:51:04,493
Speaker 4: be the band by yourself. They just need to replicate

938
00:51:04,493 --> 00:51:05,973
Speaker 4: you about five times over.

939
00:51:05,813 --> 00:51:08,213
Speaker 8: That is every every now and then. They just told

940
00:51:08,253 --> 00:51:09,973
Speaker 8: me the One Men Show and was like, come on

941
00:51:11,493 --> 00:51:12,973
Speaker 8: me for carrying my gear at least.

942
00:51:13,133 --> 00:51:13,373
Speaker 2: Yeah.

943
00:51:13,493 --> 00:51:16,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so what will you be performing on or

944
00:51:16,813 --> 00:51:17,933
Speaker 4: doing as part of the tattoo.

945
00:51:18,453 --> 00:51:20,813
Speaker 8: Well, this time I'll be performing on the tuber.

946
00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:24,173
Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. Yeah, did you even mention the tuba? Just

947
00:51:24,213 --> 00:51:27,093
Speaker 4: then I heard a trombone and I heard a trumpet.

948
00:51:27,173 --> 00:51:31,693
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, I know. I amaze myself as well.

949
00:51:32,933 --> 00:51:34,693
Speaker 4: How do you how do you find it going between

950
00:51:34,693 --> 00:51:35,813
Speaker 4: those different instruments.

951
00:51:36,493 --> 00:51:38,173
Speaker 8: So I get a little bit of the time, I

952
00:51:38,213 --> 00:51:42,733
Speaker 8: guess to sort of get a custom relatively quickly. Yeah,

953
00:51:43,013 --> 00:51:47,133
Speaker 8: and I was advised, you know, probably about a month

954
00:51:47,213 --> 00:51:50,013
Speaker 8: before Christmas that I'll be on tuber and cool.

955
00:51:50,573 --> 00:51:53,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, you played it before though, right hand.

956
00:51:53,573 --> 00:51:56,693
Speaker 8: I've done a couple of Edinburgh tattoos on the tuber

957
00:51:56,773 --> 00:51:59,173
Speaker 8: as well, trumpet trombone.

958
00:51:59,293 --> 00:52:01,773
Speaker 4: But the mouthpiece is different, a like the trumpet mouthpiece

959
00:52:01,813 --> 00:52:04,373
Speaker 4: is quite fine, quite small, and your and your lips

960
00:52:04,373 --> 00:52:06,173
Speaker 4: are very tight, whereas for the trombone it's a bit

961
00:52:06,213 --> 00:52:08,373
Speaker 4: why and then for the tube again it's wider. Still

962
00:52:08,573 --> 00:52:09,093
Speaker 4: is that right?

963
00:52:09,453 --> 00:52:11,613
Speaker 8: Yes, it is. I guess that the theory is still

964
00:52:11,653 --> 00:52:15,173
Speaker 8: the same. It's just amount of adjusting to the bigger mouthpiece.

965
00:52:16,773 --> 00:52:19,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I can imagine that the breath control is

966
00:52:19,733 --> 00:52:22,053
Speaker 4: a little bit different as well. Speaking of I given

967
00:52:22,053 --> 00:52:23,973
Speaker 4: it's the tattoo. I can only assume there are going

968
00:52:24,013 --> 00:52:25,813
Speaker 4: to be a whole heap of bagpipes here.

969
00:52:26,653 --> 00:52:30,933
Speaker 8: Oh yes, and sometimes you know, it can be the

970
00:52:31,013 --> 00:52:34,653
Speaker 8: highlight really can be the highlight of the mass pipes

971
00:52:34,853 --> 00:52:38,733
Speaker 8: just playing on the or at leastn Eden Park will

972
00:52:38,773 --> 00:52:40,613
Speaker 8: be on the on the ground there.

973
00:52:40,773 --> 00:52:43,173
Speaker 4: My god, when it's been played by people who know

974
00:52:43,173 --> 00:52:44,573
Speaker 4: what they're doing, it's so stirring.

975
00:52:45,093 --> 00:52:47,373
Speaker 8: It certainly is, certainly is.

976
00:52:47,453 --> 00:52:48,453
Speaker 4: Have you had a crack.

977
00:52:49,853 --> 00:52:50,213
Speaker 8: Poorly?

978
00:52:50,773 --> 00:52:53,133
Speaker 5: There you go, But I feel.

979
00:52:52,853 --> 00:52:55,133
Speaker 4: Like you're poorly David, given what you've been given, you

980
00:52:55,173 --> 00:52:56,853
Speaker 4: only had a couple of months notice that you're going

981
00:52:56,893 --> 00:52:59,813
Speaker 4: to be playing the tuba. Can imagine that you're poorly?

982
00:52:59,933 --> 00:53:01,693
Speaker 4: Is everyone else's exquisite?

983
00:53:02,693 --> 00:53:06,973
Speaker 8: I well, I disagree it this way.

984
00:53:07,013 --> 00:53:09,653
Speaker 4: If you were auditioning today, you probably wouldn't be playing

985
00:53:09,693 --> 00:53:10,373
Speaker 4: the bagpipes.

986
00:53:11,213 --> 00:53:12,693
Speaker 8: No, I wouldn't. But give me a month.

987
00:53:13,013 --> 00:53:17,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Hey, it is such a pleasure to speak.

988
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:19,893
Speaker 4: We are really really looking forward to the tattoo. It's

989
00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:21,653
Speaker 4: so good to see it back in New Zealand after

990
00:53:21,653 --> 00:53:24,093
Speaker 4: a decade, and after seventy five years of the Royal

991
00:53:24,213 --> 00:53:26,693
Speaker 4: Edinburgh Military Tattoo. We will let you get back to

992
00:53:26,693 --> 00:53:28,013
Speaker 4: your tuba practice and catch you.

993
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:30,253
Speaker 8: Soon appreciate that. Thanks so much.

994
00:53:30,813 --> 00:53:33,053
Speaker 4: That is David Few. He is a member of the

995
00:53:33,093 --> 00:53:35,933
Speaker 4: New Zealand Defense Forces Army Band and we'll be taking

996
00:53:35,973 --> 00:53:40,053
Speaker 4: part in the Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo when it returns

997
00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:43,213
Speaker 4: to New Zealand. Tickets for the show at Eden Park

998
00:53:43,413 --> 00:53:45,373
Speaker 4: are available. We're going to have all the details up

999
00:53:45,413 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 4: on the News Talks. He'd be website now before eleven o'clock.

1000
00:53:48,413 --> 00:53:49,773
Speaker 4: On News Talks, he we're going to catch up with

1001
00:53:49,813 --> 00:53:53,053
Speaker 4: our resident doctor for the first time in twenty twenty six.

1002
00:53:53,373 --> 00:53:58,293
Speaker 4: Even though the weather has been changeable to say the least,

1003
00:53:59,173 --> 00:54:00,453
Speaker 4: there are still lots of things we need to be

1004
00:54:00,533 --> 00:54:02,293
Speaker 4: doing to make sure that we protect ourselves from the

1005
00:54:02,333 --> 00:54:05,093
Speaker 4: sun over the next few months in particular, so he

1006
00:54:05,133 --> 00:54:08,173
Speaker 4: has some advice on that front, as well as that

1007
00:54:08,253 --> 00:54:10,893
Speaker 4: the TikTok sale in the US has finally gone through.

1008
00:54:10,933 --> 00:54:12,053
Speaker 4: So what they're going to mean for one of the

1009
00:54:12,093 --> 00:54:15,893
Speaker 4: world's most popular social media platforms our text, but will

1010
00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:17,813
Speaker 4: be here very shortly. Next up though, your screen time

1011
00:54:17,813 --> 00:54:19,493
Speaker 4: picks for the weekend if you're just feeling like a

1012
00:54:19,493 --> 00:54:22,253
Speaker 4: few hours vegging out on the couch. Twenty two pas

1013
00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:23,613
Speaker 4: ten on news doorgs EDB.

1014
00:54:25,853 --> 00:54:29,333
Speaker 1: Nod your weekend off the right way. Saturday Morning with

1015
00:54:29,533 --> 00:54:31,373
Speaker 1: Jack Tame News Dogs VV.

1016
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:36,133
Speaker 4: Twenty four minutes past ten on Newstalks dB. Jack. I

1017
00:54:36,133 --> 00:54:38,973
Speaker 4: looked into the meaning of the word tattoo rather interesting.

1018
00:54:39,013 --> 00:54:42,093
Speaker 4: A military tattoo, like the famous Royal ednbere military tattoo

1019
00:54:42,093 --> 00:54:46,453
Speaker 4: refers to a performance featuring military bands, marching, displays, music,

1020
00:54:46,573 --> 00:54:50,693
Speaker 4: and often theatrical elements showcasing armed forces. It is not

1021
00:54:50,893 --> 00:54:54,413
Speaker 4: related at all to body inc in that the word

1022
00:54:54,453 --> 00:54:57,893
Speaker 4: tattoo for body inc comes from a different source Tahitian

1023
00:54:58,093 --> 00:55:01,093
Speaker 4: versus English explorers. Thank you for that ninety two ninety two.

1024
00:55:01,213 --> 00:55:03,133
Speaker 4: If you want to send us a message this morning,

1025
00:55:03,493 --> 00:55:05,533
Speaker 4: you can email me as well, of course, Jacket Newstalks

1026
00:55:05,533 --> 00:55:08,213
Speaker 4: HEDB dot Co. It's time to get your screen time

1027
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Speaker 4: picks for this weekend. Carl Pushman is here with his

1028
00:55:12,453 --> 00:55:16,013
Speaker 4: two picks for this weekend. Get a cow. Good morning, Jack,

1029
00:55:16,053 --> 00:55:17,933
Speaker 4: carey you very well, thank you. So we're going to

1030
00:55:18,013 --> 00:55:20,373
Speaker 4: begin with the show on neon this week. Tell us

1031
00:55:20,373 --> 00:55:22,693
Speaker 4: about a Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

1032
00:55:23,613 --> 00:55:25,813
Speaker 3: Well, this is the second spin off in the Game

1033
00:55:25,853 --> 00:55:28,693
Speaker 3: of Thrones franchise. Now, when you think Game of Thrones.

1034
00:55:28,733 --> 00:55:32,573
Speaker 3: You think grand scheming between great families, deep political intrigue,

1035
00:55:32,933 --> 00:55:36,533
Speaker 3: big bloody battles between nations, sometimes with dragons, and Night

1036
00:55:36,613 --> 00:55:39,613
Speaker 3: of the Seven Kingdoms has none of that. Instead, it's

1037
00:55:39,653 --> 00:55:44,013
Speaker 3: a small story about two inconsequential characters with relatively low stakes,

1038
00:55:44,453 --> 00:55:46,613
Speaker 3: and I think it's all the better for it. The

1039
00:55:47,453 --> 00:55:51,013
Speaker 3: series follows two characters, the affably dim witted Dunk. He's

1040
00:55:51,053 --> 00:55:52,933
Speaker 3: a hedge night, which is named that because they have

1041
00:55:53,013 --> 00:55:55,293
Speaker 3: no lord or castle, so tend to wander around the

1042
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:59,013
Speaker 3: land sleeping under hedges, and his squire, a precocious, intelligent

1043
00:55:59,093 --> 00:56:02,493
Speaker 3: child named Egg, presumably on account of his bullhead. And

1044
00:56:02,533 --> 00:56:05,893
Speaker 3: it's all about their misadventure misadventures entering a big justing

1045
00:56:05,973 --> 00:56:08,573
Speaker 3: tournament which they hope to win against much better prepared,

1046
00:56:08,693 --> 00:56:12,413
Speaker 3: much better trained, and much wealthy opponents. After a night

1047
00:56:12,413 --> 00:56:14,813
Speaker 3: of drinking with the Lord a Barathian for anyone who

1048
00:56:14,853 --> 00:56:16,573
Speaker 3: knows what that means in the Game of Thrones world,

1049
00:56:16,933 --> 00:56:19,533
Speaker 3: Dunk asks how much chance he has of winning the tournament,

1050
00:56:19,653 --> 00:56:21,693
Speaker 3: to which the reply is no chance.

1051
00:56:22,173 --> 00:56:22,653
Speaker 5: And that's it.

1052
00:56:22,853 --> 00:56:23,453
Speaker 4: That's the show.

1053
00:56:24,453 --> 00:56:27,373
Speaker 3: There's no political maneuvering, there's no big backstabbing plots, there's

1054
00:56:27,373 --> 00:56:31,373
Speaker 3: no sudden shock, murderous twists. It's essentially a buddy comedy,

1055
00:56:31,693 --> 00:56:34,053
Speaker 3: which sounds weird for the grim dark fantasy world of

1056
00:56:34,053 --> 00:56:36,893
Speaker 3: West Ross, but I think it works surprisingly well. Duncan

1057
00:56:36,933 --> 00:56:39,413
Speaker 3: Egg's relationships is similar to that of the young Aria

1058
00:56:39,493 --> 00:56:41,933
Speaker 3: Stark in the Gruff Mercenary the Hound in the original

1059
00:56:41,973 --> 00:56:45,373
Speaker 3: Game of Thrones series, So if you enjoyed that pairing

1060
00:56:45,413 --> 00:56:47,773
Speaker 3: in the show, that you'll find a lot to like

1061
00:56:47,813 --> 00:56:50,333
Speaker 3: hear after Game of Thrones and its followup House to

1062
00:56:50,373 --> 00:56:52,613
Speaker 3: the Dragons. I found the low Stakes to be refreshing.

1063
00:56:52,653 --> 00:56:54,573
Speaker 3: It's a really fun story, which is not something you

1064
00:56:54,613 --> 00:56:58,333
Speaker 3: could always say about those shows. And I also thought

1065
00:56:58,373 --> 00:57:00,733
Speaker 3: it was really nice to be focused on a character

1066
00:57:00,813 --> 00:57:03,013
Speaker 3: simply living in the world as opposed to someone who's

1067
00:57:03,013 --> 00:57:05,173
Speaker 3: trying to shape the world, if you know.

1068
00:57:05,093 --> 00:57:07,453
Speaker 4: What I mean. Yeah, yeah, this sounds great. Okay, sounds

1069
00:57:07,493 --> 00:57:11,413
Speaker 4: really good. Interesting that sometimes just maybe pairing things back

1070
00:57:11,413 --> 00:57:14,453
Speaker 4: a little bit can actually really benefit of production, ain't so?

1071
00:57:14,693 --> 00:57:16,853
Speaker 3: I think so? And what I also really liked about

1072
00:57:16,853 --> 00:57:19,573
Speaker 3: it is that it's still got that Game of Thronestes

1073
00:57:19,773 --> 00:57:22,213
Speaker 3: richness to it, Like the world is so thoroughly conceived

1074
00:57:22,253 --> 00:57:24,533
Speaker 3: and you can see how much money has been spent.

1075
00:57:24,733 --> 00:57:28,093
Speaker 3: Because it's a small show, the production is still large

1076
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Speaker 3: and obviously expensive, like it looks the gajillion dollars it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: and it still has some of those trademarks, like there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of violence, there's nudity. There's a gross out

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Speaker 3: comedy opening scene which hilariously undercuts the seriousness, which you

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Speaker 3: know you think of Game of Thrones, you think very serious,

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Speaker 3: completely undercut. Maybe don't be eating your dinner when you

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Speaker 3: watch the opening five minutes of the show was my advice.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a slam dunk.

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Speaker 4: Oh fantastic. Okay, cool. So that's a Night of the

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Speaker 4: Saving Kingdoms that's streaming on Neon on Prime Video steal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, leaving Game of Thrones behind, but not one of

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Speaker 3: its stars. The lead of Steelers Sophie Turner, who played

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Speaker 3: sans A Stark in the original Hits. In this modern

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Speaker 3: day heist thriller, she plays Zara Dunn, a mid level

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Speaker 3: office worker at a financial institution that manages many of England's

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Speaker 3: pension funds. The show starts with her hungover at work,

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Speaker 3: which is something I'm sure you would never be guilty of.

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00:58:20,293 --> 00:58:24,413
Speaker 3: Jack before her before her day gets astoundingly worse when

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Speaker 3: a group of highly trained and menacingly violent baddies storm

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Speaker 3: the office, waving machine guns around and pistol whipping people

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Speaker 3: for looking at them funny. While her coworkers are all

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Speaker 3: march gunpoint into a conference room, Zara and her colleague

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Speaker 3: are forced to transfer four billion pounds out of the

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Speaker 3: pension funds and into account given to them by the robbers.

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Speaker 3: That opening episode is fast paced and just operating on adrenaline,

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Speaker 3: and it completely sucked me in. Like all good heist stories,

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Speaker 3: there's twists, there's turns, Problems pile up for Zara to

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Speaker 3: contend with while trying to stay alive. The scope sort

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Speaker 3: of expands out, showing flashing back to the events leading

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Speaker 3: up to the heist, and then seeing that conspiracy sort

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Speaker 3: of spiral out to include the banger thieves themselves, the police,

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00:59:08,373 --> 00:59:10,453
Speaker 3: some savory dick click there's an even m I five

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Speaker 3: who have their own reasons to be nosing around the investigation.

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Speaker 3: After that explosive opening episode, the slicking, glossy thriller is

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Speaker 3: like thoroughly addictive viewing. I do think it's as it

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00:59:21,053 --> 00:59:23,533
Speaker 3: goes on, does start to add one layer too many,

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Speaker 3: but I'm still heavily invested in getting to the end

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Speaker 3: of this thing. It's only six episodes, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I think there's gonna be a big payoff at the end,

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Speaker 3: which I'm looking forward.

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Speaker 4: Toue great. Oh it sounds good. Okay, So that's Steal.

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Speaker 4: That's on Prime Video and A Night of the Seven

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Speaker 4: Kingdoms is on Neon. You can hear more from Carl

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00:59:38,413 --> 00:59:42,213
Speaker 4: of course on his sub stack screen crack and those

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Speaker 4: shows will be up on the News Talks he'db website

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Speaker 4: ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News TALKSB.

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Speaker 7: This is cool Way.

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Speaker 4: This is Ray with her latest smash it Where the

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Speaker 4: Hell Is My Husband? We're better a bit of a

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Speaker 4: dry patch when it comes to exciting new music releases

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Speaker 4: of late, but she's the latest and a stack of

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Speaker 4: artists to announce new music to come in the very

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Speaker 4: near future. So it's a bit of a dry spell,

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01:00:41,013 --> 01:00:42,813
Speaker 4: but we're going to be in a glut before you

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Speaker 4: know it. So she's joining the likes of Harry Styles,

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Speaker 4: Swedish pop power house, Robin Mumford and Sons, Gorillas, Bruno

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Speaker 4: Mars Melcy and our very own bit wronger. Just to

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Speaker 4: name a few of the artists who are going to

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Speaker 4: be releasing music, new albums and the next coming months.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty six is shaping up to be a bit

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Speaker 4: of a banger with a guaranteed something for everyone. So

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Speaker 4: what music are you most excited for? While our music

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01:01:08,173 --> 01:01:09,973
Speaker 4: man is going to join us before midday to share

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Speaker 4: the very best of what's to come in terms of concerts,

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Speaker 4: albums and music trends. Very shortly, speaking of music trends,

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Speaker 4: Spotify said this thing for the last three while an

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Speaker 4: AI powered thing apparently, although what is an AI powered

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01:01:23,333 --> 01:01:26,773
Speaker 4: these days? Whereby you can say you can just enter

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Speaker 4: in the search bar, I feel like listening to something

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01:01:29,133 --> 01:01:32,093
Speaker 4: that's kind of chill and I can listen to at

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Speaker 4: work and doesn't have too many lyrics, so are not

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01:01:34,453 --> 01:01:37,573
Speaker 4: being distracted and automatically it'll come up with a new

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01:01:37,573 --> 01:01:39,813
Speaker 4: playlist for you. Well, they're now going to be spreading

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Speaker 4: that from the New Zealand market to the world wide

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Speaker 4: Spotify market. Our textberits here with the details in a

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Speaker 4: couple of minutes twenty six to eleven.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: I'm played by ACC to dig themselves out of their

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Speaker 16: fiscal hole. Without change, they're going to be twenty six

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Speaker 16: billion in debt by twenty thirties. Megan Man is the

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Speaker 16: a SEC's chief executive. As a task, could I use

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Speaker 16: the word gargantuan?

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Speaker 5: Would that be fair?

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Speaker 8: It's ambitious.

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Speaker 17: Chain around plan would say us getting.

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Speaker 16: Back to a balance by twenty thirty, but I think

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Speaker 16: it's achievable. How much of the equation here of what

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01:02:14,173 --> 01:02:16,933
Speaker 16: you're trying to do is the recipient milking the system

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Speaker 16: versus you guys not providing what you should.

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Speaker 4: The thing in our control is our focus on.

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Speaker 8: Doing our part of that.

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Speaker 11: But as I say, we need to make sure that

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Speaker 11: we're still able to give the support to people who

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Speaker 11: genuinely need it.

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Speaker 16: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 16: a Vida News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 4: Twenty three to eleven on Newstalk zed B. TikTok's US

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Speaker 4: deal is final, So half of TikTok Us is now

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Speaker 4: owned by new investors. Our Textbert Paul Stenhouse, no doubt

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Speaker 4: is one of them. He's with us right now. Good morning, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: good morning.

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Speaker 11: I wish it was This deal kind of wasn't valued

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Speaker 11: at that much, which I know sounds crazy because the

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01:02:54,973 --> 01:02:58,333
Speaker 11: price tags fourteen billion dollars, but I would have thought

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Speaker 11: the US would be worth significantly more than that of

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Speaker 11: the TikTok Pie, so I was a little bit surprised.

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Speaker 11: So those new investors, I'm sure are very happy. Thirty

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Speaker 11: percent of the company is owned by previous investors, and

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Speaker 11: then twenty percent is owned by the Chinese owned byte Dance,

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Speaker 11: which used to own one hundred and I should be

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Speaker 11: careful and not round it jack because apparently it's nineteen

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Speaker 11: point nine percent owned by the Chinese, which is very

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Speaker 11: important because it means it's under the twenty percent old,

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Speaker 11: which I think some lawmakers have been a little kind

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Speaker 11: of particular about. But it means now that in the US,

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Speaker 11: all of the US users will have all of their

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Speaker 11: data stored in the US, the algorithm will be trained

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Speaker 11: on US users, and it will be this US entity

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Speaker 11: that does content moderation, right, so it's governed by a

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Speaker 11: new board. I do think byte Dance hasn't done too

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Speaker 11: bad out of this. They're going to be getting a

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Speaker 11: license fee on all the revenue, like straight off the top.

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Speaker 11: They get profits here as well, and.

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Speaker 18: They don't have to shut it down.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's not a terrible deal. No, I mean

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Speaker 4: it does mean they get to keep upating, which I

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Speaker 4: suppose was their big concern, right, so yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: still turning aprove it. But yeah, it'll be very interesting

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Speaker 4: to see how if like this changes the kind of

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Speaker 4: algorithm and the data in the in the in the

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Speaker 4: way in which TikTok uses in the US actually see

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Speaker 4: the platform, right.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yeah, if they can, if they can feel the difference,

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01:04:26,733 --> 01:04:32,093
Speaker 11: because it's funny, you know, this is a strange app

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Speaker 11: in some ways, and that people.

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Speaker 19: Love the algorithm.

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Speaker 11: Like the typical talking point is like all algorithm bad,

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Speaker 11: but this is like, oh no, we love it. Like

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Speaker 11: that's why people talk about I'm on XTK, you know,

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Speaker 11: like I'm on Plant Talk or I'm on food Talk

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Speaker 11: or Past the Top, like they actually talk about it,

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Speaker 11: like it's a thing that they found their way into

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Speaker 11: this little sphere of the algorithm, which makes TikTok TikTok.

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Speaker 4: Yes interesting. Hey, Spotify has been trialing a new part

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Speaker 4: of its product in New Zealand and now they're going

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Speaker 4: to be taking that worldwide. Yeah, New Zealand did.

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Speaker 11: Good, Hey, apparently it was popular what it was supposed

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Speaker 11: to do, and so now it is going to start

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Speaker 11: rolling out across North America. And this is a feature

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Speaker 11: where you can ask to create a playlist about anything

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Speaker 11: you want, and you can be as specific or unspecific

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Speaker 11: as you would like. You can ask to be pumped

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Speaker 11: up with some positive beats. You can ask for instrumental

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Speaker 11: pop hits. If you have a you know, real grasp

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Speaker 11: of the musical language, I'm sure you can get very

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Speaker 11: very specific. But a fun one jack that they mentioned

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Speaker 11: in their press release is you can actually also ask

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Speaker 11: to be broken out of your usual listening habits, because

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Speaker 11: not only does it know about the world of music

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Speaker 11: in real time, so what's big on the charts and

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Speaker 11: what's big trending and what's happening in culture, but it

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Speaker 11: knows what you have been listening to. And so you

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Speaker 11: could say, don't put any songs in the playlist that

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Speaker 11: I haven't listened to this week, or give me artists

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Speaker 11: I've never heard of, or give me new songs by

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Speaker 11: my favorite artist.

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Speaker 19: You can get that.

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Speaker 11: That particular and it will go through and it will

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Speaker 11: make that playlist.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, not very interesting. Thanks Paul, and that is

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Speaker 4: our Textbert Paul Stenhouse before eleven o'clock, we are in

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Speaker 4: the garden, and next up, Dr Brian Betty, our resident GP,

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Speaker 4: is in for the first time in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 4: looking at new data coming out this week from the

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Speaker 4: National Skin Cancer Survey with you'd be stunned to hear

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Speaker 4: some pretty concerning numbers. So he's going to go through

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Speaker 4: those for us right now. It's nineteen to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Why no better way to kick off your weekend than

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Speaker 1: with Jack. Yeah, Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 5: F b.

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Speaker 4: Seventeen to eleven. The National Skin Cancer Survey came out

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Speaker 4: this week showing high rates of sunburn, especially in younger people.

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Speaker 4: So eighty two percent of eighteen to twenty four year

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Speaker 4: olds had reported sunburn and one of the which is

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Speaker 4: of course one of the biggest predisposing factors to the

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Speaker 4: development of melanoma later in life. Dr Brian Betty is

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Speaker 4: here with us so the first time in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Scald a Brian.

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Speaker 19: Happy New Year, Oh cure Jack, Yeah, Happy new Year.

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Speaker 19: It nice to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So let's talk through some of the data in

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Speaker 4: this survey and some of the findings of the survey,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, pretty concerning that those numbers are so high

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Speaker 4: with young people in particular.

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Speaker 19: Look that look it is Jack and this is a

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Speaker 19: survey that's done periodically by the Cancer Cancer Society and

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Speaker 19: the University of Otago. So about just over two thousand

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Speaker 19: adults over the age of eighteen were asked, look what

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Speaker 19: was what happened with sunburn? What happened with their attitudes

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Speaker 19: to the sun. So, yeah, look what was really interesting

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Speaker 19: for the total group, about sixty four percent said that

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Speaker 19: had sunburn over twenty twenty four to twenty five, and

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Speaker 19: of that a quarter said that had severe sunburn. Now,

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Speaker 19: severe sunburn is two days of pain and blistering of

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Speaker 19: the skin, so that that that's pretty pretty severe. It's

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Speaker 19: like cooking an egg in the pan. You're frying your

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Speaker 19: skin essentially. And those rates absolutely went up for that

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Speaker 19: eighteen to twenty four age group. Eighty two percent said

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Speaker 19: that had sunburned, and actually fifty percent said that actually

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01:08:06,053 --> 01:08:09,693
Speaker 19: had to be a sunburn over that time. Now, the

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Speaker 19: other really really interesting statistic that showed up was it

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Speaker 19: about a quarter or twenty five percent believed that having

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01:08:16,933 --> 01:08:21,253
Speaker 19: a sun tan protected against skin cancer in particular melanoma.

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Speaker 19: Now this is a real concern and that we think

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Speaker 19: that's been driven by social media, that you go out

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Speaker 19: and get a suntan and protects you against skin cancer.

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01:08:29,333 --> 01:08:32,733
Speaker 19: That's not the case. A suntan is the skin's way

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Speaker 19: of trying to protect itself against damage, and that damage

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Speaker 19: has already been done. So yeah, look, these figures were

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Speaker 19: actually really really concerning in terms of where we're we're

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Speaker 19: at in terms of our attitudes to the sun in

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Speaker 19: a country that has really really high UV rates and

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Speaker 19: high rates of skin cancer.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that seems seems crazy that people think they're

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Speaker 4: having a suntan somehow protects you, do they Does having

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01:08:54,493 --> 01:08:56,853
Speaker 4: a suntan mean you're less likely to get burned if

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Speaker 4: your skin is already more brown?

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Speaker 19: Well, I think what happens is is people get into

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Speaker 19: the suntan and they're less likely to get burnt. But

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01:09:05,253 --> 01:09:08,093
Speaker 19: it's it's again and the skin is trying to protect

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01:09:08,133 --> 01:09:11,213
Speaker 19: itself against the damage that's actually been done by the sun.

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Speaker 19: So it's not protective, and again it's it shows a

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01:09:14,453 --> 01:09:16,613
Speaker 19: power of social media that that there's been a lot

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01:09:16,653 --> 01:09:19,253
Speaker 19: in social media and TikTok and things, you know, sort

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Speaker 19: of promoting this thing that going out in the sun

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Speaker 19: protects against skin cancer and is healthy for you.

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Speaker 4: So so that.

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Speaker 19: Seems to have grabbed a lot of attention and sort

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01:09:28,613 --> 01:09:32,693
Speaker 19: a lot of traction across especially younger age groups, and

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01:09:32,773 --> 01:09:36,213
Speaker 19: it is just essentially a myth. And that's part of

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01:09:36,253 --> 01:09:36,693
Speaker 19: the problem.

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01:09:36,853 --> 01:09:40,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see, I look far back from me to

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01:09:40,253 --> 01:09:42,893
Speaker 4: have any brilliant ideas for connecting with the youth. But

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Speaker 4: I reckon, we need to change the branding. So instead

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Speaker 4: of instead of reminding young people that having really good

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01:09:50,013 --> 01:09:52,453
Speaker 4: protection against the sky the sun is a really good

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01:09:52,493 --> 01:09:55,333
Speaker 4: way of protecting yourself against skin cancer later in life,

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Speaker 4: which is obviously a key message, instead of instead of

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01:09:59,613 --> 01:10:03,093
Speaker 4: pursuing that message though, because young people tend to sort

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01:10:03,093 --> 01:10:05,933
Speaker 4: of think of vainer concerns there, I suggest, I reckon

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01:10:06,133 --> 01:10:08,533
Speaker 4: we should be saying, protect yourself from the sun and

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01:10:08,533 --> 01:10:11,253
Speaker 4: you'll look better. You will look better as you get

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Speaker 4: older because you will have fewer You're gonna have fewer wrinkles,

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01:10:13,973 --> 01:10:16,373
Speaker 4: you're gonna have less sun damage, your skin is gonna

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Speaker 4: look better as you get older if you protect yourself. Now,

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Speaker 4: I honestly, I'm not even joking. I honestly think that's

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Speaker 4: the best way to go about it.

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Speaker 19: I actually agree with you, and what you've just said

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01:10:26,053 --> 01:10:28,493
Speaker 19: is absolutely correct. The less some you have or the

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01:10:28,533 --> 01:10:30,533
Speaker 19: less sun damage you have, the better your skin looks

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01:10:30,573 --> 01:10:33,053
Speaker 19: as you get older. And that is an absolute fact.

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01:10:33,453 --> 01:10:35,733
Speaker 19: So look, what this has stirred up is exactly what

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01:10:35,773 --> 01:10:37,813
Speaker 19: you've just said, is what is the best way of

1341
01:10:37,853 --> 01:10:40,653
Speaker 19: getting the messages back out there, What is the best

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01:10:40,653 --> 01:10:43,093
Speaker 19: way of connecting with probably the younger age group, which

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01:10:43,133 --> 01:10:45,853
Speaker 19: is probably the most at risk at this point in

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01:10:45,973 --> 01:10:47,733
Speaker 19: terms of what you do. So yeah, perhaps a positive

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01:10:47,733 --> 01:10:49,693
Speaker 19: message in terms of that that you look better getting

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01:10:49,693 --> 01:10:51,533
Speaker 19: older would be a way to go and maybe that's

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01:10:52,133 --> 01:10:52,933
Speaker 19: that should be thought about it.

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01:10:52,933 --> 01:10:54,813
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm even thinking. I'm thinking about the social

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01:10:54,853 --> 01:10:56,573
Speaker 4: media that I've come across, and I remember seeing it,

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01:10:56,613 --> 01:10:58,653
Speaker 4: seeing this post and it's done. You know, it's been

1351
01:10:58,653 --> 01:10:59,933
Speaker 4: around the trap, so I'm sure I'm not the only

1352
01:10:59,973 --> 01:11:02,853
Speaker 4: one who's seen it. It showed like a truck driver

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01:11:03,733 --> 01:11:07,213
Speaker 4: who had on the who after you know, he was

1354
01:11:07,253 --> 01:11:11,093
Speaker 4: maybe in his seventies or something, and it showed the

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01:11:11,293 --> 01:11:15,013
Speaker 4: side of his body which had been on the window

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01:11:15,093 --> 01:11:17,973
Speaker 4: side of the of his life versus the other side

1357
01:11:17,973 --> 01:11:19,973
Speaker 4: of his body and so basically half of his body

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01:11:19,973 --> 01:11:22,573
Speaker 4: had always been in the sun and half of it hadn't,

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01:11:22,573 --> 01:11:24,613
Speaker 4: and he hadn't had any protection, and it was like

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01:11:25,533 --> 01:11:28,373
Speaker 4: he looked ten years older on his one side of

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01:11:28,373 --> 01:11:31,213
Speaker 4: the body that he did the other. Right, So this

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01:11:31,293 --> 01:11:33,293
Speaker 4: is the kind we need to be given to the kids.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, oh, one hundred percent.

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01:11:35,333 --> 01:11:35,733
Speaker 7: Look a look.

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01:11:35,733 --> 01:11:37,373
Speaker 19: For part of my career, I worked in the outpack

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01:11:37,413 --> 01:11:40,093
Speaker 19: of South Australia and I spent my whole time cutting

1367
01:11:40,093 --> 01:11:42,973
Speaker 19: out skin cancers from peoples in their fifties and sixties

1368
01:11:43,093 --> 01:11:46,653
Speaker 19: who looked, you know, to be honest, seventy or eighty

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01:11:46,733 --> 01:11:48,293
Speaker 19: in terms of the way the skin looked.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 19: It was leathery, it had sort of abrasions, abrasions of

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01:11:53,813 --> 01:11:57,013
Speaker 19: redness all over and scaly, and it was just a

1374
01:11:57,093 --> 01:11:59,373
Speaker 19: reflection of lots and lots of time out in the

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01:11:59,413 --> 01:12:01,973
Speaker 19: sun with farmers and truck drivers. He's saying, a whole

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01:12:01,973 --> 01:12:05,533
Speaker 19: lot of people out there, and yeah, it just strikes

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01:12:05,573 --> 01:12:08,813
Speaker 19: you that the damage the skin the sun does over time,

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01:12:08,933 --> 01:12:12,213
Speaker 19: and yeah, I reckon a positive message and maybe yeah,

1379
01:12:12,213 --> 01:12:14,213
Speaker 19: someone would take that up, yeah, because I think it's

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01:12:14,213 --> 01:12:14,813
Speaker 19: a big issue.

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Speaker 4: Very good. Hey, thanks Brian, great to chat, look forward

1382
01:12:17,413 --> 01:12:19,853
Speaker 4: to catching again sering Doctor Brian Betty with us this

1383
01:12:20,013 --> 01:12:22,813
Speaker 4: morning and a couple of work. Just after eleven o'clock

1384
01:12:22,813 --> 01:12:25,133
Speaker 4: on Newstalks, he'd be from a survey about skin cancer

1385
01:12:25,533 --> 01:12:29,973
Speaker 4: to a fascinating new study looking at swearing as a superpower.

1386
01:12:30,293 --> 01:12:35,773
Speaker 4: So this actually suggests that swearing could increase your athletic performance.

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01:12:35,813 --> 01:12:38,093
Speaker 4: We're going to explain why. Very shortly. We're in the

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Speaker 4: garden next though eleven to eleven on Newstalk's he'd.

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01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:44,533
Speaker 1: Be gardening with still sharp and yet dollars off loads

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01:12:44,533 --> 01:12:46,373
Speaker 1: of selected still tools.

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Speaker 4: Through time passes in the garden for us this morning.

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Speaker 5: Good morning sir, Good morning Jack. Are you all good there.

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01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:55,053
Speaker 4: I'm very good and I've got big news for you.

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01:12:56,173 --> 01:12:58,693
Speaker 4: Go on, big big news for you from the Tame

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01:12:58,733 --> 01:13:00,613
Speaker 4: faund the garden. We got the first one this week. So,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's been wet in Auckland, very wet in Auckland,

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01:13:04,373 --> 01:13:07,773
Speaker 4: Wendy and Auckland. I mean, fortunately for us at the

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Speaker 4: very least, it hasn't been quite as weird as there

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01:13:09,533 --> 01:13:10,933
Speaker 4: has been in other parts of the country. And I

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01:13:11,333 --> 01:13:13,093
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of all the people have got, you know,

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01:13:13,573 --> 01:13:16,213
Speaker 4: damage and slips and worse at their place at the moment.

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01:13:17,533 --> 01:13:22,733
Speaker 4: But for the first time, we have a pomegranate growing

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01:13:22,813 --> 01:13:23,733
Speaker 4: on our pomegranate.

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01:13:24,613 --> 01:13:29,093
Speaker 5: So how about that is wonderful? That is actually beautiful.

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01:13:29,133 --> 01:13:30,933
Speaker 5: I wasn't going to tell you, but I was going

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01:13:30,973 --> 01:13:33,173
Speaker 5: to talk about pomegranate next week after.

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01:13:33,413 --> 01:13:35,693
Speaker 4: Oh, please do it and if you've got any, I'm

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01:13:35,733 --> 01:13:37,373
Speaker 4: preserving that single pomegranate.

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01:13:40,013 --> 01:13:44,933
Speaker 5: I don't know. Julie is working at the Botanic Guns

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01:13:45,013 --> 01:13:45,973
Speaker 5: now as a guide.

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01:13:46,293 --> 01:13:48,333
Speaker 4: Oh how good they have.

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01:13:48,693 --> 01:13:52,053
Speaker 5: Believe it or not, there is an enormous pomegranate which

1413
01:13:52,093 --> 01:13:54,133
Speaker 5: is about two meters two and a half meters high

1414
01:13:54,573 --> 01:13:57,453
Speaker 5: in the Botanic Guns and I identify Julie. What do

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01:13:57,493 --> 01:13:59,573
Speaker 5: you think this is? TRII naturalist.

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01:14:00,253 --> 01:14:01,733
Speaker 4: Oh does it have fruit?

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01:14:02,773 --> 01:14:05,293
Speaker 5: Yes, it's flowers flowers. I don't know what the fruits

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01:14:05,333 --> 01:14:07,653
Speaker 5: are doing yet, but I'll keep an eye on it

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01:14:07,773 --> 01:14:10,333
Speaker 5: because it's really nice to hear that you can do

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01:14:10,373 --> 01:14:12,213
Speaker 5: it in Auckland, but we can actually do it in

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01:14:12,533 --> 01:14:17,453
Speaker 5: Canterbury as well. Yeah, that's why. So we're starting to learn.

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01:14:17,773 --> 01:14:21,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I didn't think it would happen, certainly

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01:14:21,453 --> 01:14:22,933
Speaker 4: not this year. I thought we'd be a few years

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01:14:22,933 --> 01:14:25,133
Speaker 4: away from anything because even though it's been flowering, I

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01:14:25,253 --> 01:14:26,973
Speaker 4: moved the tree. I had to move it a couple

1426
01:14:27,013 --> 01:14:30,413
Speaker 4: of meters orders for my wife, and so yeah, I

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01:14:30,453 --> 01:14:33,133
Speaker 4: moved it this year. I moved it in winter and

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01:14:34,133 --> 01:14:36,693
Speaker 4: here we go. Yeah, so there you go. Anyway, I

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01:14:36,693 --> 01:14:41,893
Speaker 4: will report back in the coming weeks and months, because yeah, yeah, exactly,

1430
01:14:42,373 --> 01:14:44,933
Speaker 4: but you're focusing this morning on little creepy Cawley's.

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01:14:45,293 --> 01:14:48,293
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. I've got some lovely things growing at

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01:14:48,293 --> 01:14:50,213
Speaker 5: the moment in now going on the gum trees. It's

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01:14:50,213 --> 01:14:53,773
Speaker 5: a silk moth, the Aussie Australian silk moth if you like,

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01:14:54,293 --> 01:14:57,173
Speaker 5: and it's doing It's called the gum Emperor moth as well.

1435
01:14:57,653 --> 01:15:01,133
Speaker 5: And I've put some piggies there and Liby will put

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01:15:01,133 --> 01:15:03,293
Speaker 5: it on the website, no doubt about it. But it

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01:15:03,373 --> 01:15:06,613
Speaker 5: was a really good year for those things too. And

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01:15:06,653 --> 01:15:10,333
Speaker 5: the irony is that that particular creature, the Aussi silk

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01:15:10,373 --> 01:15:13,893
Speaker 5: moth if you like, occurs in the South Island all

1440
01:15:13,933 --> 01:15:16,133
Speaker 5: the way down to Lincoln, so that's not far from

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01:15:16,173 --> 01:15:18,413
Speaker 5: where we live. That's probably the most sudden place where

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01:15:18,413 --> 01:15:24,973
Speaker 5: it is. Yeah, so these are these are literally silk moths.

1443
01:15:25,053 --> 01:15:28,173
Speaker 5: They belong to the silk moth family, the ones that

1444
01:15:28,373 --> 01:15:30,973
Speaker 5: you know, the Chinese and the Japanese made silk out

1445
01:15:31,013 --> 01:15:34,413
Speaker 5: of all these billions of years ago. But the Australian

1446
01:15:34,493 --> 01:15:39,973
Speaker 5: silk is such a crappy what we call it material

1447
01:15:40,093 --> 01:15:42,293
Speaker 5: that it's far too hard to make any clothes of

1448
01:15:42,373 --> 01:15:45,733
Speaker 5: it at all. But it's still a fabulous thing. So

1449
01:15:45,813 --> 01:15:49,533
Speaker 5: here it goes, and they grow to about twelve centimeters long.

1450
01:15:49,573 --> 01:15:56,613
Speaker 5: Those caterpillars are beautiful. The colors are green, blue, unbelievably

1451
01:15:56,733 --> 01:16:01,533
Speaker 5: nice legs, orange red, and they pretend to be poisonous.

1452
01:16:01,693 --> 01:16:04,853
Speaker 5: That's probably what it is. It looks amazing, So that's

1453
01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 5: number one. And then three weeks later they will spin

1454
01:16:09,093 --> 01:16:11,573
Speaker 5: a cocoon. That is that cocon that I just gave

1455
01:16:12,813 --> 01:16:15,973
Speaker 5: one out of ten or for The cocoon is hues

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01:16:16,293 --> 01:16:20,293
Speaker 5: and high and very very very hardy. To go through

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01:16:20,293 --> 01:16:25,853
Speaker 5: the winter with that silk thing is basically as I said,

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01:16:25,893 --> 01:16:27,693
Speaker 5: you can't make any clothes out of it, but it

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01:16:27,813 --> 01:16:31,293
Speaker 5: is really really amazing. So November December, January, right now,

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01:16:31,813 --> 01:16:38,013
Speaker 5: the crystalis is open and these enormous, enormous moths come out,

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01:16:38,213 --> 01:16:45,533
Speaker 5: fifteen centimeters wingspan, beautiful orange colors, with brown and pink

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01:16:46,053 --> 01:16:50,093
Speaker 5: eye spots and things like that. And basically, this is

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01:16:50,133 --> 01:16:52,213
Speaker 5: the thing you have to. You have to if you

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01:16:52,333 --> 01:16:55,813
Speaker 5: ever get a good gum tree, or for that matter,

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01:16:55,893 --> 01:16:58,493
Speaker 5: a liquid amber, which is a totally unrelated plant on

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01:16:58,533 --> 01:17:01,493
Speaker 5: which they grow as well, get one of those plants

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01:17:01,533 --> 01:17:05,373
Speaker 5: and see if you can get some translocated to your place,

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01:17:05,413 --> 01:17:07,933
Speaker 5: because the kids would love it, they would love it.

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01:17:08,013 --> 01:17:10,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's sounds right, sounds wonderful.

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01:17:11,573 --> 01:17:12,893
Speaker 5: That's where we are very good.

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Speaker 4: I will put some photos up on the news talk

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01:17:14,813 --> 01:17:17,213
Speaker 4: websites that people can get a bit of a better

1473
01:17:17,293 --> 01:17:19,453
Speaker 4: sense of it as well. Hey, the other big news

1474
01:17:19,693 --> 01:17:21,733
Speaker 4: the jacaranda tree. Remember how I was reporting to you

1475
01:17:21,773 --> 01:17:24,813
Speaker 4: that jacaranda tree was looking a bit worse for weir

1476
01:17:24,853 --> 01:17:26,653
Speaker 4: and the only half of it was flowering and it

1477
01:17:26,733 --> 01:17:29,413
Speaker 4: was looking a bit strange. The good news is that

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01:17:29,893 --> 01:17:32,093
Speaker 4: the other half is flourishing all of a sudden, So

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01:17:32,133 --> 01:17:34,573
Speaker 4: it's almost like half of the tree is on a

1480
01:17:34,613 --> 01:17:38,573
Speaker 4: different kind of cycle to the other. Yeah, which I

1481
01:17:38,573 --> 01:17:38,973
Speaker 4: don't know.

1482
01:17:38,893 --> 01:17:39,653
Speaker 5: What can happen.

1483
01:17:39,733 --> 01:17:41,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently no that can that can happen.

1484
01:17:41,773 --> 01:17:44,213
Speaker 5: But a little bit of fertilizer on the on the

1485
01:17:44,293 --> 01:17:46,613
Speaker 5: root zone will help as well. That is great. And

1486
01:17:46,693 --> 01:17:49,973
Speaker 5: finally you were talking about the weather to three. Four

1487
01:17:50,053 --> 01:17:54,173
Speaker 5: days ago, I drove from West Auckland to Rway here

1488
01:17:54,213 --> 01:17:59,693
Speaker 5: in Northland in that a May zing storm. It was unbelievable. Yeah,

1489
01:17:59,733 --> 01:18:02,613
Speaker 5: it was wonderful, Well, not wonderful, it was sad. Yeah,

1490
01:18:02,653 --> 01:18:03,253
Speaker 5: it was great.

1491
01:18:03,493 --> 01:18:06,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're probably relieved when you got there though. Hey, thanks,

1492
01:18:06,413 --> 01:18:09,613
Speaker 4: that's right. Yeah, I got this overly route climb passing

1493
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Speaker 4: the garden for us. After eleven o'clock, our travel correspondent

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01:18:13,173 --> 01:18:16,173
Speaker 4: with the biggest trends of twenty twenty six. It's Neoze

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Speaker 4: timee on News Talks dB.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack dam keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Interest. You're just turning on the radio this morning. It

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Speaker 4: is great to have your company, Jack time with you

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Speaker 4: on Newstalk's EDB through to twelve o'clock. So for end

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Speaker 4: of the show, bit wronger. She sort of eased back

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Speaker 4: into things. She came on shows. She performed live in studio,

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Speaker 4: which is just so special. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: before her anniversary performance at the Auckland Town Hall. That

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Speaker 4: was a sellout show. It was an amazing show. I

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Speaker 4: went along with my wife. It was so special. Then

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Speaker 4: she took the show on the road, she went to

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Speaker 4: Australia a little bit and then after all that she

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Speaker 4: decided to get writing start recording some new music. So

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Speaker 4: she is one of several big name artists who have

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Speaker 4: new albums coming out over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 4: Harry Stiles has got a new album coming up over

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Speaker 4: the next couple of months as well. The new Arctic

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Speaker 4: Monkeys album is coming out very soon. So anyway before

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Speaker 4: midday we're going to catch up with our music reviewer.

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Speaker 4: He's going to look at some of the big new

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Speaker 4: albums that are going to be coming out in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty six. Robin really looking forward to that as well,

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Speaker 4: and some of the top shows that we'll be doing

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Speaker 4: the rounds this year as well. So Harry Styles has

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Speaker 4: announced he's going to be going to Australia so far,

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Speaker 4: no word on New Zealand just yet. That's Performer Day

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Speaker 4: as well as that. We've got your book picks for

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Speaker 4: this weekend, including another friend of the show, David Baldacci,

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Speaker 4: who's got his book The Winner, that was first published

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Speaker 4: almost thirty years ago being re released. So our review

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Speaker 4: is going to give us her thoughts on that very

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Speaker 4: shortly right now though it is eight minutes past eleven,

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Speaker 4: Jack Team, and good news for everyone who works in

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Speaker 4: a newsroom. Swearing could be your new superpower. Google Sutherland

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Speaker 4: from Umbrella Well Being is with us this morning with

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Speaker 4: the details on a fascinating new studies that says that

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Speaker 4: actually swearing might increase your performance. Say it ain't so, Google.

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Speaker 5: Kira Jack.

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Speaker 7: Yes, well this you know.

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Speaker 20: This is what science says, is that the more you

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Speaker 20: swear that the better you do. But I think you

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Speaker 20: possibly want to. You probably want to pick your locations

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Speaker 20: and your profession. You probably don't want to drop the

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Speaker 20: f bond too readily on your show, and I'm similar

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Speaker 20: in my line of work.

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Speaker 7: It's probably not entirely appropriate.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, no time and place.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a time and place. There's a time and place.

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Speaker 20: So there's the idea here, is that that often when

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Speaker 20: we if you know, often you feel like you're trying

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Speaker 20: to you're doing something physically active, some you know, some

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Speaker 20: big strength based physical activity and you really feel like

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Speaker 20: you want to let it all hang out and just yell.

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Speaker 20: But in not doing that, so in inhibiting.

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Speaker 18: Your your swearing.

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Speaker 20: So by not yelling out and swearing that you actually

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Speaker 20: inhibit your performance a bit because you're kind of holding back.

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Speaker 20: But the theory here is that actually, if you let

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Speaker 20: it all hang out and you really you know, swear

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Speaker 20: as loudly as you can, you can actually increase your

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Speaker 20: performance and increase your strength, particularly around physical sort of

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Speaker 20: you know, you know, physical activities and sports.

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Speaker 4: It's pretty amazing. So if you think about tennis in

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Speaker 4: the Australian Open at the moment and fifteen years I

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Speaker 4: remember when people first started grunting in tennis, it was

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Speaker 4: yesing and like all comedians were to do things, you know,

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Speaker 4: make the jumps about it and stuff, and now it's

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Speaker 4: kind of, you know, it's kind of pass a you

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Speaker 4: see it all the time. But this would suggest that

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Speaker 4: grunting and tennis is actually a really good.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that it's it's led on from that. So so

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Speaker 20: actually what they found was that with grunting and with

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Speaker 20: again it's that kind of idea of just letting it

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Speaker 20: all hang out and not being inhibited when you are

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Speaker 20: when you're performing, and particularly in sports and grunting as

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Speaker 20: one of those things. There was a theory I heard

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Speaker 20: that that it's partly to disguise the spin you know

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Speaker 20: in tennis that people are putting on the ball, so

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Speaker 20: you can't kind of but but I don't. You probably

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Speaker 20: need to talk to your sporto about that rather than me.

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Speaker 20: But but that's it is one theory. But you know

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Speaker 20: this research about is where it grew out of that

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Speaker 20: that that they found that you know, grunting does help

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Speaker 20: increase your strength and similarly for swearing, it's it increases

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Speaker 20: it even more. It increases things like your your your

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Speaker 20: grip strength and how hard you hit the ball back.

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Speaker 4: Interesting if you think about it. And rugby, you know

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Speaker 4: when the scrum and when they engage and they go

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Speaker 4: yeah eage yeah yeah. After that, when they when they

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Speaker 4: really try and put the pressure on, you can hear

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Speaker 4: them grunting and yelling and stuff. I mean there are

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Speaker 4: examples like that everywhere. It's not just the sports. But

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Speaker 4: when you think, yeah, even when you lift something you

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Speaker 4: go yeah.

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Speaker 20: Yeah yeah, well weightlifting as well. You know, if you

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Speaker 20: often see that, you know they're really straying and grunting

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Speaker 20: it and pushing and it's you know that idea about

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Speaker 20: pushing it out.

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Speaker 7: Actually when when they broke it down.

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Speaker 20: They found that there were kind of three main you know,

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Speaker 20: three main features that that that it led people to

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Speaker 20: be a bit more self confident, It distracted them from

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Speaker 20: the pain and the effort of what they were doing,

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Speaker 20: and it also helped tend to They think it also

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Speaker 20: helped people just stay in the flow of that physical activity,

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Speaker 20: because some of your inhibition is about what do other

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Speaker 20: people think about me when I'm doing this? And that

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Speaker 20: actually there swearing sort of has a threefold effect. And

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Speaker 20: look for people listening at home. You could try this

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Speaker 20: the way they the way they demonstrated this, actually trying

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Speaker 20: to do this before you before before the call, but

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Speaker 20: I was not very good at it. That you do

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Speaker 20: this thing called a cheer hold, so you put your

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Speaker 20: hands underneath your backside sitting on it. Don't do it

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Speaker 20: on a chair with wheels, because you'll go flying on

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Speaker 20: a solid chair. And then you try and push yourself

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Speaker 20: up off the chair and hold with your arms so

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Speaker 20: that you're sort of prone.

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Speaker 7: You you're raised your back, raised arms.

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Speaker 20: On your arms, and you just try and hold that

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Speaker 20: for as long as possible. Yeah, I couldn't do it

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Speaker 20: at all, but that that probably says more about me

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Speaker 20: than anything, And I tried swearing a lot.

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Speaker 7: I tried a lot of swearing and it still didn't

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Speaker 7: really help.

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Speaker 20: But it's gosh, it was really tough I found it.

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Speaker 20: But you give it to go at home and you know,

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Speaker 20: try it with and without swearing, see what happens.

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Speaker 7: Make sure that perhaps make sure the younger members of

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Speaker 7: the family aren't around.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, but you know, you could give it a bash

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Speaker 20: at home and see how it goes.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Interesting, So this has only really been tested for

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Speaker 4: physical things, right, This isn't It's not like if you're

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Speaker 4: sitting there writing an essay on proofs, you can all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden go.

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Speaker 20: Sitting in sitting in an exam at university just let

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Speaker 20: job well that I mean, the idea is that they're

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Speaker 20: interested in seeing could this extend to to other things

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Speaker 20: where we kind of inhibit ourselves.

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Speaker 7: But at the moment, it's really looking at, you know.

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Speaker 20: Any anything where there's effort, anything physically effort for where

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Speaker 20: you need a lot of strength and you're really feeling

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Speaker 20: you know, you're really pushing it your sort of your face,

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Speaker 20: your veins are popping out of your face in there

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Speaker 20: can and and it's those sorts of situations.

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Speaker 7: You know, maybe we could.

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Speaker 20: You know, I wouldn't suggest at this stage, you know,

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Speaker 20: trying to do it when you're looking for a salary

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Speaker 20: increase or renegotiating your contract and you go and and

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Speaker 20: swear at your.

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Speaker 7: Boss just to really get the maximum out of it.

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Speaker 7: So I wouldn't recommend that.

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Speaker 20: But anything with his physical activity, give a shot and

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Speaker 20: see how you go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good. I might be with a crack. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's it's actually one of those things that when you

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Speaker 4: like step back a little bit. I mean it's it's

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Speaker 4: a bit of a laugh. But when you see it,

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Speaker 4: you actually it kind of makes sense. Fuels rational, doesn't it.

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Speaker 20: It does feel rational, I think, and and and I

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Speaker 20: think one of the things that they were interested in

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Speaker 20: is really finding out how it works in terms of,

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Speaker 20: you know, what, what's the actual mechanism, by what why

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Speaker 20: how it works, and that's around you know, people feeling

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Speaker 20: more self confident and distracting yourself. So you know, it

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Speaker 20: does make good sense once you're sort of looking back

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Speaker 20: at it.

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Speaker 4: We've been seen a very good example brand that both

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Speaker 4: you and I would have missed this. And we're focusing

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Speaker 4: on things like rugby scrums, hello gentlemen dot dot dot

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Speaker 4: childbirth question mate.

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Speaker 20: Oh yes, yes, absolutely under hundred yeah yes you possibly did. Yeah, no, yeah,

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Speaker 20: absolutely child.

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Speaker 7: That's the classic example. Yes, yes, I think gentlemen is perhaps.

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Speaker 20: The app word there that we would have slightly missed that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, Oh then he's another way. Here's another another

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Speaker 4: sitution on the text. I can cur with this swearing point.

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Speaker 4: I'm known as a terrible di y. I take it here,

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Speaker 4: but still stuff things up sometimes that I'm really struggling

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Speaker 4: with something. A loud f bomb does something to my

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Speaker 4: psyche and somehow the thing works out. It's not ideal,

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Speaker 4: but it's like the swear words seems to calm and

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Speaker 4: cause a reset. Yeah's interesting. Yeah, if you're swearing and

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Speaker 4: it was winding you up more, then you might do

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Speaker 4: a ghost job. But if if swearing was an effective

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Speaker 4: way of getting out your anger and then kind.

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Speaker 7: Of yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 18: It's funny.

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Speaker 20: My my my son and my nephews both learned to

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Speaker 20: swear from their grandfather when he was doing DIY stuff

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Speaker 20: and it wasn't going well and he would let out

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Speaker 20: the occasional expleete of and they both they all picked

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Speaker 20: it up from him. But again that was the same

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Speaker 20: thing about you know, something wasn't going quite right, and.

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Speaker 7: Out it would come.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but just letting out that tension,

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Speaker 20: maybe getting the focus back and not being so wound up,

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Speaker 20: and it would probably be helpful.

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Speaker 4: To Yeah, very good. Hey, thank you, nice new year.

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Speaker 4: Yes you too, cheers you too, Thanksland from Umbrella well

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Speaker 4: being with us this morning our travel correspondence and then

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Speaker 4: a couple of It's sixteen Fast eleven on news talks.

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Speaker 1: He'd be travel with Windy Woo Tours.

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Speaker 2: Where the World is yours book?

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Speaker 4: Now make Godley's our travel corresponding.

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Good morning Jack Insurance and Town and christ

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Speaker 17: Church tonight you'll be feeling right at home with this

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Speaker 17: very blighty weather here.

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Speaker 4: Bloody weather everywhere at the moment, I think, so are

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Speaker 4: you heating along?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 17: I've got family who are going, including some very young

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Speaker 17: members of the families. They'll be rugged up, man, they'll

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01:28:36,093 --> 01:28:38,213
Speaker 17: be going in their firmals, I reckon, yeah.

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01:28:38,053 --> 01:28:40,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. So this is this is one of the

1713
01:28:40,093 --> 01:28:43,173
Speaker 4: last concerts at the Big Stadium, at the old Stadium,

1714
01:28:43,213 --> 01:28:46,733
Speaker 4: right before we hopefully we moved to the new one. Yeah, right,

1715
01:28:46,853 --> 01:28:50,133
Speaker 4: When does the actually open next month, the next month.

1716
01:28:51,733 --> 01:28:55,733
Speaker 4: Oh yeah right, yeah, yeah, week I was super rugby,

1717
01:28:55,773 --> 01:28:58,853
Speaker 4: but yeah, I very got No, that'll be amazing tonight.

1718
01:28:58,893 --> 01:29:01,533
Speaker 4: It sounds like the concert has yeah, has been fantastic,

1719
01:29:01,573 --> 01:29:03,493
Speaker 4: and you know we'll be hitting straps now. He's done

1720
01:29:03,533 --> 01:29:06,093
Speaker 4: it a couple of times over. Hey, this morning, you

1721
01:29:06,173 --> 01:29:09,653
Speaker 4: were focusing on the travel trend set to define twenty

1722
01:29:09,733 --> 01:29:12,013
Speaker 4: twenty six. So how does the travel industry set about

1723
01:29:12,053 --> 01:29:14,573
Speaker 4: pinpointing what the year's big trends are actually going to be?

1724
01:29:16,253 --> 01:29:19,773
Speaker 17: Great question, Jack, because if you scout around on the internet,

1725
01:29:19,853 --> 01:29:24,493
Speaker 17: you will notice there are travel trends lists galore. I've

1726
01:29:24,973 --> 01:29:29,053
Speaker 17: honed in on what I consider some reputable global travel

1727
01:29:29,093 --> 01:29:32,693
Speaker 17: industry specialists to see how they've been reading the tea leaves.

1728
01:29:33,053 --> 01:29:35,413
Speaker 17: A lot of it is based on data analytics. You know,

1729
01:29:35,533 --> 01:29:38,813
Speaker 17: just what is spiking, what's attracting a lot of bookings,

1730
01:29:38,813 --> 01:29:43,213
Speaker 17: a lot of interest, And it is interesting how behavior

1731
01:29:43,333 --> 01:29:46,493
Speaker 17: does shift year and year out as to what seems

1732
01:29:46,533 --> 01:29:47,933
Speaker 17: to magnetize people.

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01:29:48,053 --> 01:29:50,213
Speaker 5: So I've looked at a whole lot.

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01:29:50,213 --> 01:29:56,013
Speaker 17: Of different lists and there are some broadly agreed, commonly

1735
01:29:56,133 --> 01:29:58,373
Speaker 17: pinpointed features, and a lot of them we will be

1736
01:29:58,413 --> 01:30:00,173
Speaker 17: able to relate to yeah.

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01:30:00,253 --> 01:30:03,653
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's start with trains and luxury rail travel.

1738
01:30:03,773 --> 01:30:05,653
Speaker 4: Is it entering a new golden age?

1739
01:30:06,493 --> 01:30:10,253
Speaker 17: It seems to be jack yeah, particularly for well held travelers.

1740
01:30:10,293 --> 01:30:13,853
Speaker 17: So think of your boomers who are into slow travel

1741
01:30:13,933 --> 01:30:17,413
Speaker 17: getting off the beaten track. That obviously has gained huge

1742
01:30:17,413 --> 01:30:20,853
Speaker 17: currency right across the demograph in recent years, but in

1743
01:30:20,853 --> 01:30:25,293
Speaker 17: twenty twenty six that ethos is seeing just a huge

1744
01:30:25,533 --> 01:30:31,093
Speaker 17: array and frequency of luxury rail journeys ramp up dramatically.

1745
01:30:31,533 --> 01:30:34,173
Speaker 17: So for example, in Italy, in recent months, La Dolce

1746
01:30:34,333 --> 01:30:38,413
Speaker 17: Vita orient Express has been launched, with these Rome return

1747
01:30:38,493 --> 01:30:43,773
Speaker 17: rail trips wildly popular. The Orient Express is also launching

1748
01:30:43,973 --> 01:30:47,493
Speaker 17: extra lengthy journeys between Paris and the Amalfi Coast that

1749
01:30:47,653 --> 01:30:52,133
Speaker 17: is quite a journey. Belmont in the UK have just

1750
01:30:52,213 --> 01:30:56,333
Speaker 17: launched the Britannic Express. But across all segments of the

1751
01:30:56,413 --> 01:30:59,533
Speaker 17: rail market it is booming. I came across this really

1752
01:30:59,573 --> 01:31:05,853
Speaker 17: interesting stat holiday rail bookings around the globe grew forty

1753
01:31:05,973 --> 01:31:10,013
Speaker 17: percent year on year through to December last year, and

1754
01:31:10,813 --> 01:31:13,573
Speaker 17: even in New Zealand like in the last few weeks.

1755
01:31:13,733 --> 01:31:17,173
Speaker 17: Mainland Rail is also an example of this trend that

1756
01:31:17,253 --> 01:31:20,053
Speaker 17: have launched these trips between christ Churchen and the cargo.

1757
01:31:20,453 --> 01:31:22,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Actually, gosh, that's a

1758
01:31:22,813 --> 01:31:25,853
Speaker 4: huge boom, isn't it. Museums are going through a bit

1759
01:31:25,853 --> 01:31:28,373
Speaker 4: of a reimagining as well, So what's the big shift.

1760
01:31:29,333 --> 01:31:32,693
Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a big wave of openings and reopenings this

1761
01:31:32,813 --> 01:31:35,573
Speaker 17: year and they all seem to be challenging the notion

1762
01:31:35,693 --> 01:31:39,293
Speaker 17: of museum displays having to be static, hands off and

1763
01:31:39,413 --> 01:31:43,253
Speaker 17: behind glass. So for example, the V and A Storehouse

1764
01:31:43,293 --> 01:31:46,693
Speaker 17: in London, they have this order and Object service, So

1765
01:31:46,813 --> 01:31:51,053
Speaker 17: this leads anyone request to see and photograph and in

1766
01:31:51,093 --> 01:31:55,493
Speaker 17: some cases touch items from a two hundred and fifty

1767
01:31:55,733 --> 01:31:58,373
Speaker 17: thousand strong collection. You can just say, I want to

1768
01:31:58,373 --> 01:32:01,133
Speaker 17: see that photo open blah blah, blah, blah blah. The

1769
01:32:01,213 --> 01:32:05,373
Speaker 17: National Geographic Museum opens in DC this summer. It's hyper

1770
01:32:05,493 --> 01:32:09,573
Speaker 17: immersive and they have augmented reality exhibits and lots of

1771
01:32:09,573 --> 01:32:12,493
Speaker 17: projection mapping and I love this one, Jack. The London

1772
01:32:12,573 --> 01:32:15,573
Speaker 17: Museum is currently being rehashed and they are going to

1773
01:32:15,613 --> 01:32:21,813
Speaker 17: include the wow factor provision of Thameslink trains tootling through

1774
01:32:21,853 --> 01:32:24,933
Speaker 17: their galleries so that you're a passenger in the train

1775
01:32:25,293 --> 01:32:27,013
Speaker 17: and you can glimpse the museum.

1776
01:32:26,813 --> 01:32:28,413
Speaker 18: Displaced as you pass through.

1777
01:32:30,653 --> 01:32:31,053
Speaker 8: To work.

1778
01:32:32,293 --> 01:32:35,133
Speaker 17: They're basically building a tunnel through the museum, so the

1779
01:32:35,173 --> 01:32:37,293
Speaker 17: trains go through and they can see the galleries as

1780
01:32:37,333 --> 01:32:37,933
Speaker 17: they pass by.

1781
01:32:38,373 --> 01:32:43,733
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, very good. So grocery store tourism is apparently

1782
01:32:43,933 --> 01:32:44,333
Speaker 4: a thing.

1783
01:32:45,453 --> 01:32:48,253
Speaker 17: Oh, it's a huge thing. And I thought it might

1784
01:32:48,293 --> 01:32:49,653
Speaker 17: have just been a big thing for you and me.

1785
01:32:50,293 --> 01:32:51,653
Speaker 4: I was going to say it sounds like a bit

1786
01:32:51,693 --> 01:32:51,973
Speaker 4: of meat.

1787
01:32:54,133 --> 01:32:56,893
Speaker 17: Well, I mean, it may have been a niche pastime

1788
01:32:57,413 --> 01:33:00,333
Speaker 17: for the inquisitive like Jack Daman, Mike Abby, but it's

1789
01:33:00,373 --> 01:33:04,813
Speaker 17: become increasingly popular. So visiting a local grocery or corner

1790
01:33:04,853 --> 01:33:08,373
Speaker 17: store wherever you happened to be in the world, I

1791
01:33:08,453 --> 01:33:11,253
Speaker 17: reckon it's the fast track to affordable authenticity.

1792
01:33:11,613 --> 01:33:11,773
Speaker 13: You know.

1793
01:33:11,813 --> 01:33:15,093
Speaker 17: It's the different flavors of chips, the exotic fruit, the

1794
01:33:15,133 --> 01:33:18,253
Speaker 17: regional soft drinks, the unique snacks that people buy. It

1795
01:33:18,333 --> 01:33:21,853
Speaker 17: just gives you a great sense of place. And apparently

1796
01:33:21,853 --> 01:33:25,733
Speaker 17: on TikTok Alan last year there were more than fifty

1797
01:33:25,853 --> 01:33:29,653
Speaker 17: million posts related to grocery store travel.

1798
01:33:30,493 --> 01:33:35,733
Speaker 4: Wow. Okay, So I'm glad that this is just an observation,

1799
01:33:35,893 --> 01:33:38,013
Speaker 4: a way of traveling that is appreciated by lots of

1800
01:33:38,053 --> 01:33:41,373
Speaker 4: people rather than someone actually turning it into some business

1801
01:33:41,493 --> 01:33:45,853
Speaker 4: ventures totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the moment someone does that,

1802
01:33:45,933 --> 01:33:48,933
Speaker 4: it immediately loses that authenticity factor.

1803
01:33:49,213 --> 01:33:50,413
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly moment.

1804
01:33:50,693 --> 01:33:54,813
Speaker 4: So on the set jetting front, period dramas are the big.

1805
01:33:54,733 --> 01:33:57,253
Speaker 7: Driver, absolutely, Yeah.

1806
01:33:57,333 --> 01:34:01,533
Speaker 17: Bonnets and buggies are at the ready because it's particularly

1807
01:34:01,653 --> 01:34:04,813
Speaker 17: Britain that is going to feature big on the fan

1808
01:34:05,133 --> 01:34:09,613
Speaker 17: pilgrimage funt and it's because of a lot of literary

1809
01:34:09,693 --> 01:34:13,853
Speaker 17: adaptations hitting the big screen. So Dartmoor, Devon in the

1810
01:34:13,853 --> 01:34:17,133
Speaker 17: Peak district, they're all very excited because they've been showcased

1811
01:34:17,133 --> 01:34:20,653
Speaker 17: in Jane Austen's Quide and Prejudice. The latest iteration of

1812
01:34:20,733 --> 01:34:24,533
Speaker 17: Sense and Sensibility as well has honed in on those regions.

1813
01:34:24,933 --> 01:34:28,333
Speaker 17: Wuthering Heights is being shot on the Yorkshire Dales as

1814
01:34:28,333 --> 01:34:32,053
Speaker 17: we speak, and Cornwall is where the new Harry Potter

1815
01:34:32,093 --> 01:34:36,173
Speaker 17: TV series is being lavishly shot. So it's all about

1816
01:34:36,213 --> 01:34:38,573
Speaker 17: Blighty when it comes to set jetting this year.

1817
01:34:38,693 --> 01:34:42,693
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice AI versus HI who's in control?

1818
01:34:42,853 --> 01:34:47,293
Speaker 17: M Many travelers are clearly using AI for planning and booking,

1819
01:34:47,373 --> 01:34:50,733
Speaker 17: So even Expedia and Booking dot Com they've integrated tools

1820
01:34:50,773 --> 01:34:55,173
Speaker 17: like chat GPT, but I don't believe chatbots are anywhere

1821
01:34:55,333 --> 01:34:58,453
Speaker 17: near becoming a match for that real time on the

1822
01:34:58,493 --> 01:35:00,653
Speaker 17: ground trusted human intelligence.

1823
01:35:00,693 --> 01:35:01,373
Speaker 18: It seems to be.

1824
01:35:01,373 --> 01:35:04,973
Speaker 17: Where AI just isn't quite there yet. Yeah, so, I

1825
01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:06,893
Speaker 17: mean it doesn't have to be experts. So either you

1826
01:35:06,893 --> 01:35:09,893
Speaker 17: think of like the power of word of mouth, whether

1827
01:35:09,933 --> 01:35:13,693
Speaker 17: it's from your friend, a travel agent, or a Saturday

1828
01:35:13,693 --> 01:35:18,093
Speaker 17: morning travel correspondent. It's there is the tried and tested

1829
01:35:18,693 --> 01:35:23,053
Speaker 17: knowledge on destination tips that people still really are hungry for.

1830
01:35:23,333 --> 01:35:26,013
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the human thing, the human factor is

1831
01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:30,093
Speaker 4: still so valuable, isn't it. Although yeah, I mean yeah

1832
01:35:30,173 --> 01:35:32,733
Speaker 4: it is. It is so useful to go to those

1833
01:35:32,813 --> 01:35:34,973
Speaker 4: chat bots I and just and to say something like,

1834
01:35:35,053 --> 01:35:37,813
Speaker 4: you know, what, what train options are there? What did

1835
01:35:37,813 --> 01:35:40,813
Speaker 4: you say from Paris to the Amalfi Coast? You know,

1836
01:35:40,933 --> 01:35:42,253
Speaker 4: you know that it would be able to come back

1837
01:35:42,253 --> 01:35:44,093
Speaker 4: to you and say, well, funny you ask. Actually usually

1838
01:35:44,093 --> 01:35:45,733
Speaker 4: it would be a really cool aluted journey and you'd

1839
01:35:45,733 --> 01:35:47,893
Speaker 4: have to take eight different trains, but there's going to

1840
01:35:47,973 --> 01:35:49,653
Speaker 4: be this three. You know, it would come back to

1841
01:35:49,653 --> 01:35:52,453
Speaker 4: you and me, which is yeah, that's true. So many

1842
01:35:52,533 --> 01:35:55,893
Speaker 4: other notable trends that are going to define twenty twenty sixty.

1843
01:35:55,933 --> 01:35:59,053
Speaker 17: You think, yeah, cover cook things apparently gone on the

1844
01:35:59,133 --> 01:36:01,813
Speaker 17: days of booking the same trip as everyone else. I

1845
01:36:01,853 --> 01:36:03,933
Speaker 17: know a lot of travel agents would agree with this,

1846
01:36:04,133 --> 01:36:08,693
Speaker 17: that it's ultra personalization that is really big now and

1847
01:36:08,733 --> 01:36:10,893
Speaker 17: you can actually notice it in the advertising. You know,

1848
01:36:10,973 --> 01:36:15,093
Speaker 17: a lot of specialist tours have emerged that's seek to

1849
01:36:15,133 --> 01:36:20,573
Speaker 17: serve very specific life stages and situations, whether it be divorce, grief,

1850
01:36:21,133 --> 01:36:26,133
Speaker 17: menopause retreats.

1851
01:36:24,053 --> 01:36:25,173
Speaker 7: Marriage retreats.

1852
01:36:25,373 --> 01:36:27,973
Speaker 17: And then I noticed in it the other day for

1853
01:36:28,093 --> 01:36:37,373
Speaker 17: a very alterra niche itch insect enthusiastic tours, So probably

1854
01:36:39,373 --> 01:36:41,933
Speaker 17: I think he's the guide. And by the way, Jack,

1855
01:36:42,373 --> 01:36:45,093
Speaker 17: the travel industry is I'm sure you've noticed loves to

1856
01:36:45,213 --> 01:36:46,253
Speaker 17: coin buzzwords.

1857
01:36:46,533 --> 01:36:46,653
Speaker 18: You know.

1858
01:36:46,653 --> 01:36:50,573
Speaker 17: I think of things like cool cations and staycations and

1859
01:36:50,613 --> 01:36:54,773
Speaker 17: flash packing. Well, apparently the buzzword this year is quiet

1860
01:36:54,893 --> 01:36:58,813
Speaker 17: cation and it's also known as hospitality, which is a

1861
01:36:58,813 --> 01:37:02,053
Speaker 17: bit try hard, but it's all about holidaying and comfort

1862
01:37:02,093 --> 01:37:06,013
Speaker 17: and silence. It's like an upgrade on digital detoxing. And

1863
01:37:06,053 --> 01:37:08,693
Speaker 17: it's because I received an email last week from this

1864
01:37:08,773 --> 01:37:13,013
Speaker 17: outfit called sky Cave Retreats in Oregon, and I reckon

1865
01:37:13,013 --> 01:37:16,653
Speaker 17: they are an example of a quiet casi. They offer

1866
01:37:16,813 --> 01:37:20,813
Speaker 17: three days in a cabin in complete darkness.

1867
01:37:21,853 --> 01:37:24,893
Speaker 4: Right, so you just go and you sit there. Do

1868
01:37:24,933 --> 01:37:26,653
Speaker 4: you get food? Do you get anything?

1869
01:37:26,973 --> 01:37:27,173
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1870
01:37:27,213 --> 01:37:30,333
Speaker 18: Apparently right, so maybe by candlelight.

1871
01:37:30,693 --> 01:37:34,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. But the idea is like a sensory deprivation thing,

1872
01:37:34,173 --> 01:37:34,813
Speaker 4: is it?

1873
01:37:34,813 --> 01:37:35,813
Speaker 5: It is? It is?

1874
01:37:36,413 --> 01:37:39,973
Speaker 4: Yes, very niche, yeah, very niche. Well, I mean I'm

1875
01:37:39,973 --> 01:37:41,733
Speaker 4: sure there is a demand for it. People go on those,

1876
01:37:41,853 --> 01:37:44,573
Speaker 4: on those yoga retreats or those silence there for a

1877
01:37:44,573 --> 01:37:46,933
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Yes, time, sometimes they do.

1878
01:37:47,333 --> 01:37:49,573
Speaker 18: Yes, all in Collingwood.

1879
01:37:50,013 --> 01:37:50,453
Speaker 14: That's true.

1880
01:37:50,813 --> 01:37:53,733
Speaker 4: That's true. I'm not I'm just I'm not sure it's

1881
01:37:53,733 --> 01:37:56,373
Speaker 4: for me necessarily, not sure it's for me.

1882
01:37:56,493 --> 01:38:00,013
Speaker 21: Agreed, Yeah, you do you as we always say, very interesting,

1883
01:38:00,293 --> 01:38:02,373
Speaker 21: here you go, Nathan's just fectus of textas say, Jack,

1884
01:38:02,373 --> 01:38:05,053
Speaker 21: me and my wife just turned thirty and we've booked

1885
01:38:05,053 --> 01:38:07,813
Speaker 21: a trip on the Garden this year outside of it,

1886
01:38:08,013 --> 01:38:08,493
Speaker 21: So do you go.

1887
01:38:08,573 --> 01:38:11,413
Speaker 4: It's not just atas going for the luxury train travel.

1888
01:38:11,453 --> 01:38:13,413
Speaker 4: I would love to do the Garden. Yeah, that would

1889
01:38:13,453 --> 01:38:15,173
Speaker 4: be that would be amazing, What a great thing to do.

1890
01:38:16,293 --> 01:38:17,693
Speaker 18: That's fabulous, Very good.

1891
01:38:17,693 --> 01:38:19,933
Speaker 4: Hey, thank you, Mike, enjoy having the relatives in town,

1892
01:38:19,973 --> 01:38:23,773
Speaker 4: and we will catch you again next weekend. Jack, very good,

1893
01:38:23,853 --> 01:38:26,373
Speaker 4: Mike Audley, our travel correspondent. Before midday, we've got your

1894
01:38:26,373 --> 01:38:30,133
Speaker 4: book picks for this weekend, including The Winner by David Baldanci,

1895
01:38:30,773 --> 01:38:32,933
Speaker 4: as well as that our music reviewer is going to

1896
01:38:32,933 --> 01:38:35,053
Speaker 4: look at his big trends for twenty twenty six of

1897
01:38:35,093 --> 01:38:36,773
Speaker 4: the big albums that are coming down the line, the

1898
01:38:36,773 --> 01:38:39,493
Speaker 4: big concerts, the big tours. Next up we will see

1899
01:38:39,493 --> 01:38:41,653
Speaker 4: what Jason Pine is planning for us on weekend Sport

1900
01:38:41,693 --> 01:38:50,773
Speaker 4: this afternoon, just coming up to eleven thirty.

1901
01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:52,413
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1902
01:38:52,533 --> 01:38:55,133
Speaker 1: on news talks, they'd be okay.

1903
01:38:56,293 --> 01:39:05,293
Speaker 22: You Nie so on, Dnee so on, come a mess

1904
01:39:05,413 --> 01:39:09,173
Speaker 22: myself and I think I could be someone if you

1905
01:39:09,333 --> 01:39:10,213
Speaker 22: need someone.

1906
01:39:11,093 --> 01:39:14,693
Speaker 4: Now was a lot of worse timee hagon to now Hella.

1907
01:39:15,373 --> 01:39:18,173
Speaker 22: I can just course back and make believe and it

1908
01:39:18,373 --> 01:39:20,293
Speaker 22: was our good.

1909
01:39:21,813 --> 01:39:23,573
Speaker 11: Did you come? Did you follow?

1910
01:39:24,093 --> 01:39:24,533
Speaker 8: You need?

1911
01:39:24,693 --> 01:39:24,733
Speaker 23: So?

1912
01:39:25,293 --> 01:39:28,573
Speaker 4: I just feel like you recognize the banjo immediately, don't you.

1913
01:39:28,693 --> 01:39:34,573
Speaker 4: That's Mumford and Sons. It's called the Banjo song. I

1914
01:39:34,613 --> 01:39:37,613
Speaker 4: feel like eighty percent of Mumford and Son's repertoia could

1915
01:39:37,653 --> 01:39:39,573
Speaker 4: be called the band the banjo song. It's not a

1916
01:39:39,613 --> 01:39:41,973
Speaker 4: bad thing. I'm a big fan anyway. It's a classic

1917
01:39:42,053 --> 01:39:45,613
Speaker 4: mumfor tune. Their new album is Prize Fighter twenty seven

1918
01:39:45,653 --> 01:39:47,613
Speaker 4: to twelve. On news talks, he'd be Jason Pine is

1919
01:39:47,653 --> 01:39:49,613
Speaker 4: in the hot seat for weekends sport right after the

1920
01:39:49,653 --> 01:39:52,373
Speaker 4: midday news. On news talks, he'd be he's here this morning,

1921
01:39:52,373 --> 01:39:55,093
Speaker 4: Good morning, Good morning, Jack. Tell you what the phoenix

1922
01:39:56,013 --> 01:39:56,453
Speaker 4: last night.

1923
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Speaker 24: I don't know the spelling of what you just said,

1924
01:39:59,413 --> 01:40:04,613
Speaker 24: but yeah, I totally concur Yeah, it's tell Newcastle a

1925
01:40:04,653 --> 01:40:09,173
Speaker 24: good team quickly becoming very watch competitions, leading goalscorers, four

1926
01:40:09,213 --> 01:40:10,893
Speaker 24: straight wins, now level on points.

1927
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Speaker 7: With Auckland FC.

1928
01:40:11,733 --> 01:40:13,693
Speaker 24: Yeah, although Auckland f C have a chance, you know,

1929
01:40:13,813 --> 01:40:17,973
Speaker 24: to take off again this afternoon. But yeah, I said

1930
01:40:18,013 --> 01:40:20,653
Speaker 24: to you before you came into today, I felt like

1931
01:40:20,693 --> 01:40:22,013
Speaker 24: the phoenix turned to corner last week.

1932
01:40:22,413 --> 01:40:24,693
Speaker 4: You know, I've kind of got been around and back.

1933
01:40:24,733 --> 01:40:26,773
Speaker 24: I've gone back around there. I thought I'm going the

1934
01:40:26,813 --> 01:40:29,053
Speaker 24: other way. Yeah, it's the old one step forward, you know,

1935
01:40:29,133 --> 01:40:31,013
Speaker 24: maybe one and a half steps back. So because a

1936
01:40:31,093 --> 01:40:33,893
Speaker 24: tight table, they'll come home, they'll lock their wounds interesting.

1937
01:40:33,973 --> 01:40:37,933
Speaker 24: This coming Friday Jackets their five hundredth A League men's match. Yeah,

1938
01:40:37,973 --> 01:40:41,373
Speaker 24: two thousand and seven was when the club came into existence,

1939
01:40:41,973 --> 01:40:44,453
Speaker 24: and this coming Friday against Melbourne City will be their

1940
01:40:44,533 --> 01:40:47,293
Speaker 24: five hundredth A League men's match, so hopefully that'll give

1941
01:40:47,293 --> 01:40:48,013
Speaker 24: them a bit of a boost.

1942
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:51,293
Speaker 4: Nice. So Aukland FC kicking off at five this afternoon,

1943
01:40:51,333 --> 01:40:53,693
Speaker 4: you're going to have the call, first time at home

1944
01:40:53,813 --> 01:40:56,453
Speaker 4: for weeks now. That'll be good to see them back home.

1945
01:40:56,973 --> 01:40:58,053
Speaker 4: But what's on the show this afternoon?

1946
01:40:58,093 --> 01:41:00,173
Speaker 24: Well, this rugby story keeps bubbling away, doesn't it. It

1947
01:41:00,213 --> 01:41:02,653
Speaker 24: feels like a month since Scott Robertson was you know,

1948
01:41:02,853 --> 01:41:06,173
Speaker 24: was sort of deposed. It's only been what nine days,

1949
01:41:06,813 --> 01:41:09,053
Speaker 24: so you start thinking, now, okay, well, time is a

1950
01:41:09,053 --> 01:41:11,253
Speaker 24: little bit of the essence. Check Super Rugby starts in

1951
01:41:11,333 --> 01:41:13,213
Speaker 24: three weeks. If you're the new All Blacks coade, you

1952
01:41:13,253 --> 01:41:16,493
Speaker 24: want to be watching Super Rugby with a selection hat on.

1953
01:41:16,933 --> 01:41:19,053
Speaker 24: If Jamie Joseph gets the job, the Highlanders are going

1954
01:41:19,093 --> 01:41:20,933
Speaker 24: to need a plan, b aren't they. You know, three

1955
01:41:20,973 --> 01:41:22,573
Speaker 24: weeks out from the new season, so there's a bit

1956
01:41:22,613 --> 01:41:25,333
Speaker 24: of time going on here. Also, who makes the decision?

1957
01:41:25,333 --> 01:41:28,133
Speaker 24: There's no CEO at the moment. Normally they that person

1958
01:41:28,213 --> 01:41:31,373
Speaker 24: would be front and center of the recruitment process.

1959
01:41:31,573 --> 01:41:33,813
Speaker 4: Would the actually make yeah with others, So it's not

1960
01:41:33,893 --> 01:41:35,213
Speaker 4: one person who makes the call.

1961
01:41:35,133 --> 01:41:37,053
Speaker 24: No, but that person would be involved. You're the CEO,

1962
01:41:37,973 --> 01:41:40,653
Speaker 24: so that's obviously going to I think David Kirk will

1963
01:41:40,693 --> 01:41:41,933
Speaker 24: probably oversee.

1964
01:41:41,493 --> 01:41:46,333
Speaker 4: The whole thing, overseeing everything.

1965
01:41:47,453 --> 01:41:49,653
Speaker 24: He's probably making the tea and biscuits as well.

1966
01:41:50,573 --> 01:41:52,253
Speaker 19: And where do we go?

1967
01:41:52,533 --> 01:41:55,253
Speaker 24: Jamie Joseph seems to be the front runner, but Tony

1968
01:41:55,293 --> 01:41:57,293
Speaker 24: Brown this week with Mike said no, I'm not. I'm

1969
01:41:57,333 --> 01:42:01,173
Speaker 24: not breaking my contract. I'm not coming back. So Jamie

1970
01:42:01,253 --> 01:42:04,053
Speaker 24: Joseph with Tony Brown very different from Jamie Joseph without

1971
01:42:04,173 --> 01:42:06,533
Speaker 24: him for me. So who are the other candidates going

1972
01:42:06,533 --> 01:42:09,453
Speaker 24: to assemble? A couple of experienced rugby voices Tony Johnson

1973
01:42:09,493 --> 01:42:11,613
Speaker 24: and Gregor Paul after midday and I kick this around

1974
01:42:11,813 --> 01:42:14,853
Speaker 24: plenty of time for a listener reaction as well, and

1975
01:42:15,053 --> 01:42:17,653
Speaker 24: also looking forward to chatting to Finn Allen this afternoon.

1976
01:42:17,853 --> 01:42:22,573
Speaker 24: He's been over the Big Bash and absolutely dominating us.

1977
01:42:22,573 --> 01:42:24,813
Speaker 24: The right word he's he's got. He's broken the record

1978
01:42:24,893 --> 01:42:28,453
Speaker 24: for the most sixers in the competition history and one season,

1979
01:42:28,493 --> 01:42:29,853
Speaker 24: got one hundred the other day there in the final

1980
01:42:29,893 --> 01:42:31,693
Speaker 24: tomorrow night, and then of course he heads off to

1981
01:42:31,813 --> 01:42:33,533
Speaker 24: join the Black Apps for the T twenty World Cup

1982
01:42:33,573 --> 01:42:35,933
Speaker 24: in India, and they've had a couple of losses to

1983
01:42:36,173 --> 01:42:38,573
Speaker 24: the Indians and the lead ups, so I think Finn

1984
01:42:38,613 --> 01:42:41,813
Speaker 24: Allen's arrival would be greeted warmly over there ahead of the.

1985
01:42:41,933 --> 01:42:44,053
Speaker 4: T twenty one GID be interesting. I'm really looking forward

1986
01:42:44,053 --> 01:42:46,493
Speaker 4: to our conversation because because he is sort of at

1987
01:42:46,533 --> 01:42:50,973
Speaker 4: the vanguard of, you know, being being a top price

1988
01:42:51,133 --> 01:42:53,493
Speaker 4: gun for hire when it comes to T twenty leagues

1989
01:42:53,493 --> 01:42:55,173
Speaker 4: around the world. Right, Like, if you have found Allen

1990
01:42:55,253 --> 01:42:57,333
Speaker 4: right now and you're saying, well, this is the career

1991
01:42:57,413 --> 01:43:00,333
Speaker 4: I could I could carve out if I just if

1992
01:43:00,373 --> 01:43:02,533
Speaker 4: I focus on tweens and here's the career I can

1993
01:43:02,613 --> 01:43:04,853
Speaker 4: carve out. Look to make the Test team and that

1994
01:43:05,013 --> 01:43:06,973
Speaker 4: kind of thing. It's pretty lucre.

1995
01:43:07,293 --> 01:43:10,613
Speaker 24: And I think it's great, Okay for him, You're so right, Jack,

1996
01:43:10,693 --> 01:43:12,933
Speaker 24: You know, I'll play for you know, the Scorches, and

1997
01:43:13,013 --> 01:43:14,573
Speaker 24: I'll play for this team and the one hundred and

1998
01:43:14,613 --> 01:43:17,053
Speaker 24: this team in American Major League cricket, but I'll also

1999
01:43:17,133 --> 01:43:20,733
Speaker 24: play for New Zealand and T twenty internationals when when required,

2000
01:43:20,813 --> 01:43:22,653
Speaker 24: if you want to select me and it fits like

2001
01:43:22,773 --> 01:43:25,013
Speaker 24: World Cups, then I'd love to play for New Zealand.

2002
01:43:25,013 --> 01:43:28,093
Speaker 24: I still want to So yeah, you're right, Yeah he is.

2003
01:43:28,173 --> 01:43:30,933
Speaker 24: He's right at the at the forefront of what this

2004
01:43:31,613 --> 01:43:33,813
Speaker 24: new world of certainly T twenty cricketers look like.

2005
01:43:33,973 --> 01:43:36,653
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, looking forward to that conversation. Very good, Thank

2006
01:43:36,653 --> 01:43:36,893
Speaker 4: you sir.

2007
01:43:37,013 --> 01:43:37,373
Speaker 24: Thanks Jack.

2008
01:43:37,613 --> 01:43:39,973
Speaker 4: Enjoy the afternoon, go to the FC this afternoon. Of course,

2009
01:43:40,093 --> 01:43:43,893
Speaker 4: Jason Pine will be behind the mike live right after

2010
01:43:43,973 --> 01:43:46,413
Speaker 4: the midday news on News Talks. He'db with Weekend Sports.

2011
01:43:46,933 --> 01:43:51,133
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio,

2012
01:43:51,453 --> 01:43:52,893
Speaker 1: part by News talks 'b.

2013
01:43:54,613 --> 01:43:57,093
Speaker 4: Try to twelve on Newsbalks, he'd be Katherine Rains is

2014
01:43:57,133 --> 01:44:01,213
Speaker 4: our book reviewer. She gives us two recommendations every Saturday morning,

2015
01:44:01,213 --> 01:44:02,933
Speaker 4: and she's here with this week's Get I Catherine.

2016
01:44:03,453 --> 01:44:04,173
Speaker 23: Good morning Jack.

2017
01:44:04,253 --> 01:44:07,053
Speaker 4: So David Bell d Archie, friend of the of course,

2018
01:44:07,413 --> 01:44:09,893
Speaker 4: is back, although back in a funny way. He has

2019
01:44:10,133 --> 01:44:13,973
Speaker 4: re released The Winner, which was originally published in nineteen

2020
01:44:14,093 --> 01:44:16,213
Speaker 4: ninety seven and has just been republished. So tell us

2021
01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:16,733
Speaker 4: about The Winner.

2022
01:44:17,733 --> 01:44:19,853
Speaker 23: Yes, it has been and it's a standalone novel, so

2023
01:44:19,893 --> 01:44:21,453
Speaker 23: you don't need to have read any other books or

2024
01:44:21,453 --> 01:44:24,653
Speaker 23: any other the series. So it follows twenty year old

2025
01:44:25,093 --> 01:44:27,133
Speaker 23: woman called Louan Tyler, and she's a mum, and she's

2026
01:44:27,133 --> 01:44:29,373
Speaker 23: lived a pretty hard life and she's been in an

2027
01:44:29,373 --> 01:44:33,613
Speaker 23: abusive relationship in this endless cycle of poverty. But she

2028
01:44:33,693 --> 01:44:36,413
Speaker 23: goes for this job and she's offered the chance to

2029
01:44:36,493 --> 01:44:38,893
Speaker 23: be guaranteed to be the next winner of one hundred

2030
01:44:38,933 --> 01:44:42,453
Speaker 23: million dollar national lottery by this name named mister Jackson.

2031
01:44:42,813 --> 01:44:45,653
Speaker 23: And of course she knows that this is not above board,

2032
01:44:45,853 --> 01:44:50,253
Speaker 23: and she decides that she can't she just can't do this.

2033
01:44:50,573 --> 01:44:52,693
Speaker 23: And then actually she thinks about it, and things go

2034
01:44:52,773 --> 01:44:56,413
Speaker 23: wrong in her life and more complicated, and then she

2035
01:44:56,653 --> 01:44:59,333
Speaker 23: decides that actually she's going to give this a shot,

2036
01:44:59,653 --> 01:45:03,373
Speaker 23: and things just go from bad to worse. She's fighting

2037
01:45:03,413 --> 01:45:05,253
Speaker 23: for a life. She ends up running from this false

2038
01:45:05,373 --> 01:45:08,413
Speaker 23: murder charge. But part of the agreement for winning this

2039
01:45:08,533 --> 01:45:10,733
Speaker 23: lottery is that she actually has to leave the country

2040
01:45:10,813 --> 01:45:14,613
Speaker 23: forever with this unlimited wealth and a very great future

2041
01:45:14,653 --> 01:45:16,853
Speaker 23: for her young daughter. And she does that for ten

2042
01:45:16,933 --> 01:45:19,773
Speaker 23: years and she returns to the States. She's still wanted

2043
01:45:19,813 --> 01:45:21,893
Speaker 23: for murder and she ends up in Virginia in this

2044
01:45:21,973 --> 01:45:25,173
Speaker 23: beautiful mansion and she meets this guy, Matthew Raggs, who's

2045
01:45:25,293 --> 01:45:27,173
Speaker 23: kind of on a down and out as well. And

2046
01:45:27,413 --> 01:45:29,613
Speaker 23: this seems to be a reporter floating around who senses

2047
01:45:29,693 --> 01:45:31,893
Speaker 23: the scam in an attic national lottery and wants to

2048
01:45:31,933 --> 01:45:34,373
Speaker 23: talk to her about it. Whin and life starting to

2049
01:45:34,413 --> 01:45:37,693
Speaker 23: get really complicated, and of course the mysterious mister Jackson's

2050
01:45:37,733 --> 01:45:40,973
Speaker 23: tailing her as well. And it's entertaining. There's lots of

2051
01:45:41,013 --> 01:45:43,453
Speaker 23: twists and turns. You do have to suspend sort of

2052
01:45:43,533 --> 01:45:46,653
Speaker 23: boundaries of what's believable or possible, but I can assure

2053
01:45:46,653 --> 01:45:48,013
Speaker 23: you it's a very entertaining read.

2054
01:45:48,693 --> 01:45:51,453
Speaker 4: So that's The Winner by David Baldartch. You've also read

2055
01:45:51,573 --> 01:45:55,373
Speaker 4: On the Edge by Kate Horn. So this is set

2056
01:45:55,453 --> 01:45:56,373
Speaker 4: in New South.

2057
01:45:56,253 --> 01:45:59,533
Speaker 23: Wales and Australia, and sixteen year old Maddie Marshall goes

2058
01:45:59,613 --> 01:46:02,973
Speaker 23: missing and she's found three days later on a remote

2059
01:46:03,133 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 23: beach and she's been murdered, and she was the only

2060
01:46:06,173 --> 01:46:10,053
Speaker 23: door of a high profile politician and his guy called Jeff,

2061
01:46:10,133 --> 01:46:13,533
Speaker 23: and her mother Faye. Of course, they're understandably devastated by

2062
01:46:13,573 --> 01:46:16,813
Speaker 23: what's happened, and Maddie's best friend was a woman called

2063
01:46:16,933 --> 01:46:19,533
Speaker 23: Neil Foley, and she was the last person to see

2064
01:46:19,573 --> 01:46:22,653
Speaker 23: her alive by the lighthouse, and of course the local

2065
01:46:22,773 --> 01:46:24,813
Speaker 23: room and mill just turns up the heat and she

2066
01:46:24,933 --> 01:46:27,453
Speaker 23: ends up being bullied, and when she finishes school, she

2067
01:46:27,573 --> 01:46:31,213
Speaker 23: leaves town, and fourteen years later she's a GP, and

2068
01:46:31,333 --> 01:46:34,893
Speaker 23: she ends up returning because her father, the town's GP, Robs,

2069
01:46:35,173 --> 01:46:37,853
Speaker 23: suddenly passes away, and so she returns to help her

2070
01:46:37,893 --> 01:46:39,973
Speaker 23: mom and help organize the funeral, and she plans on

2071
01:46:40,093 --> 01:46:42,613
Speaker 23: getting out of town as soon as she can, but

2072
01:46:42,733 --> 01:46:45,373
Speaker 23: actually her mom begs her to stay and run the

2073
01:46:45,533 --> 01:46:49,613
Speaker 23: GP clinic, and she really, very reluctantly agrees, and it's

2074
01:46:49,613 --> 01:46:52,253
Speaker 23: at the GP clinic that she meets this woman, Sophie Warner,

2075
01:46:52,613 --> 01:46:55,613
Speaker 23: and things begin to change. She uncovers new information about

2076
01:46:55,613 --> 01:46:57,773
Speaker 23: what might have happened and what might have happened to

2077
01:46:57,853 --> 01:47:01,893
Speaker 23: her friend and realizes that nothing is quite what it seems,

2078
01:47:02,053 --> 01:47:04,493
Speaker 23: and says, lots of layers to the story. There's obviously

2079
01:47:04,613 --> 01:47:07,893
Speaker 23: the central mystery that's going on, but there's family dynamics

2080
01:47:07,973 --> 01:47:11,613
Speaker 23: and relationships and friendship and it's the kind of book

2081
01:47:11,693 --> 01:47:13,653
Speaker 23: that makes you just want to keep reading one more

2082
01:47:13,733 --> 01:47:16,853
Speaker 23: chapter and it's almost impossible to put down. And just

2083
01:47:17,013 --> 01:47:19,333
Speaker 23: when you think you think you've got things worked out,

2084
01:47:19,453 --> 01:47:22,693
Speaker 23: there's a very good twist and it completely shifts the story.

2085
01:47:23,373 --> 01:47:25,053
Speaker 3: Very well written, very good story.

2086
01:47:25,093 --> 01:47:27,733
Speaker 4: Okay, cool. So That's on the Edge by Kate Horne,

2087
01:47:28,173 --> 01:47:31,333
Speaker 4: and Catherine's first book is The Winner by David Baldacci.

2088
01:47:31,533 --> 01:47:33,453
Speaker 4: All of the details for those reads will be up

2089
01:47:33,693 --> 01:47:36,693
Speaker 4: on the News Talks. He'd be website seventeen to twelve.

2090
01:47:36,933 --> 01:47:39,893
Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to

2091
01:47:39,933 --> 01:47:43,813
Speaker 1: know this Saturday morning with Jack dam News Talks.

2092
01:47:47,373 --> 01:47:56,453
Speaker 12: To a Chair.

2093
01:48:07,133 --> 01:48:19,493
Speaker 4: So I like this, but then I'm a big Arctic

2094
01:48:19,573 --> 01:48:23,733
Speaker 4: Monkeys fan from way back. That song is Opening Night.

2095
01:48:24,133 --> 01:48:26,693
Speaker 4: Chris Schultz is our music reviewer. He's here this morning

2096
01:48:27,213 --> 01:48:29,333
Speaker 4: looking at some of the big albums and some of

2097
01:48:29,373 --> 01:48:32,093
Speaker 4: the big shows on their way in twenty twenty six.

2098
01:48:32,773 --> 01:48:35,253
Speaker 4: Good morning, Chris, Jake.

2099
01:48:35,373 --> 01:48:37,253
Speaker 6: I like that song too, and I haven't liked a

2100
01:48:37,333 --> 01:48:39,973
Speaker 6: lot of what the Arctic Monkeys have done recently.

2101
01:48:40,173 --> 01:48:43,253
Speaker 4: I like the guitars, yeah, yeah, loud Arctic.

2102
01:48:43,133 --> 01:48:46,173
Speaker 6: Monkeys, and they kind of went all Pianoy and Ballady,

2103
01:48:46,853 --> 01:48:48,933
Speaker 6: But that's kind of somewhere between the two.

2104
01:48:49,133 --> 01:48:52,173
Speaker 18: That's that's a really good Arctic Monkeys song.

2105
01:48:52,773 --> 01:48:54,933
Speaker 4: You you're a fan of the what is it? Who

2106
01:48:55,013 --> 01:48:57,293
Speaker 4: the hell are the Arctic Monkeys era Arctic Monkeys?

2107
01:48:58,013 --> 01:49:02,053
Speaker 19: Yeah yeah the Louder Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah No,

2108
01:49:02,333 --> 01:49:02,973
Speaker 19: that's me as well.

2109
01:49:03,173 --> 01:49:06,253
Speaker 4: I'm into that. I don't want anything that's too introspective necessarily,

2110
01:49:07,053 --> 01:49:10,693
Speaker 4: So they've just released it that's called Opening Night. Does

2111
01:49:10,733 --> 01:49:13,093
Speaker 4: that mean that there's no Arctic Monkeys album on the way.

2112
01:49:13,853 --> 01:49:14,333
Speaker 18: It doesn't.

2113
01:49:14,373 --> 01:49:17,613
Speaker 6: That's part of a compilation album. At least that's what

2114
01:49:17,733 --> 01:49:21,013
Speaker 6: we know so far. I think the big trend this

2115
01:49:21,213 --> 01:49:25,653
Speaker 6: year is going to be surprises, and that's certainly shown

2116
01:49:25,773 --> 01:49:28,333
Speaker 6: by Harry Styles this week, out of the blue nowhere

2117
01:49:28,773 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 6: turning up with a great new single, announcing a new

2118
01:49:32,093 --> 01:49:35,573
Speaker 6: album and a world tour. I think this is going

2119
01:49:35,613 --> 01:49:38,173
Speaker 6: to be the thing Exa doing this year, sort of

2120
01:49:38,213 --> 01:49:39,853
Speaker 6: coming out of nowhere and just.

2121
01:49:41,693 --> 01:49:44,253
Speaker 18: Getting that spotlight as fast as possible.

2122
01:49:44,413 --> 01:49:47,373
Speaker 6: Harry Styles, by the way, like that song Aperture, I

2123
01:49:47,413 --> 01:49:50,773
Speaker 6: think you played it earlier. That is the first Harry

2124
01:49:50,813 --> 01:49:52,933
Speaker 6: Styles song I've fallen in love with. I must have

2125
01:49:52,973 --> 01:49:56,373
Speaker 6: played that twelve times since it came in yesterday. Yeah,

2126
01:49:56,733 --> 01:49:59,773
Speaker 6: it's not a Harry Styles song. It doesn't sound like

2127
01:49:59,853 --> 01:50:04,213
Speaker 6: him anyway. He's a pop star and that is more

2128
01:50:04,373 --> 01:50:07,133
Speaker 6: like a sad banger you'd hear in the club at

2129
01:50:07,293 --> 01:50:09,093
Speaker 6: two am, and look, I haven't been in a club

2130
01:50:09,453 --> 01:50:11,693
Speaker 6: at two am in a long, long time, Jack, But

2131
01:50:12,293 --> 01:50:14,973
Speaker 6: that's the vibe it gives me. It's five minutes long too.

2132
01:50:15,013 --> 01:50:18,333
Speaker 6: Who releases a five minute pop song? You only do

2133
01:50:18,453 --> 01:50:22,173
Speaker 6: that if you're really confident, and clearly Harry Styles is confident. Sadly,

2134
01:50:22,253 --> 01:50:24,893
Speaker 6: he is not coming to New Zealand on this world

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Speaker 6: to He's doing that thing where he's playing four shows

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Speaker 6: in Australia exclusively. If you want to do that, just

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Speaker 6: like last year with Kendrick and Lady Gaga, you'll have

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Speaker 6: to travel. I'm not going to dwell on that. I'm

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Speaker 6: fully optimistic. I want to talk about all of the

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Speaker 6: great things that we know we're getting this year. I

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Speaker 6: sat down with Big Runger this week. She is making

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Speaker 6: her comeback in three weeks and her first new album

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Speaker 6: in fifteen years. It's been fifteen years since you last

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Speaker 6: released an album of all original material. She told me

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Speaker 6: that it sort of took that time to get rid

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Speaker 6: of the weight of being big runger of one of

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Speaker 6: the country's most celebrated songwriters.

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Speaker 18: I love what she's doing on this album.

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Speaker 6: We've heard three songs from her and she clearly is

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Speaker 6: just kind of stopped caring, and not stop caring in

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Speaker 6: the music, but stop.

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Speaker 18: Caring about what people think about here. She sounds really free.

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Speaker 18: I'm really looking forward to that.

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Speaker 6: The same day, Charlie XCX releases her first post Bratt album.

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Speaker 6: It's the Wuthering Heights soundtrack that was only supposed to

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Speaker 6: be a song and became a whole album. So that's

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Speaker 6: a huge, huge day for pop fans and local music fans.

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Speaker 6: And then the other big one on my radar is

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Speaker 6: Robin's Sex Essential March twenty seven.

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Speaker 18: Great name for an album.

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Speaker 6: She hasn't released anything for eight years and Robin's always class.

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Speaker 4: So totally that you appreciate Robin. Both producer Libby and

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Speaker 4: I are huge Robin fans on my neck. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm really really looking forward to it. I've been actually

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Speaker 4: going back just with the hype around her new album,

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Speaker 4: I've been going back and listening to lots of old stuff.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be great. Great to have that album.

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Speaker 18: Have you been dancing on your own jo always.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So what about the tours you're most looking forward

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Speaker 4: to them?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's some Look, we've got a couple of

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Speaker 6: months coming up. So in just two weeks Chapel Rowland

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Speaker 6: plays her first New Zealand show. She's headlining Lame Way.

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Speaker 6: We're also getting by the way, if you're an Arctic

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Speaker 6: Monkeys fan, Geese, the super hyped new rock band out

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Speaker 6: of America. The hype around them does remind me of

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Speaker 6: the kind of height that followed the Arctic Monkeys at

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Speaker 6: the start of their career, right. I know, so many

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Speaker 6: people are going to Lane Way just to see Geese,

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Speaker 6: so that's definitely on my radar. Also, the day after

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Speaker 6: Lame Way done on Wellington, Nick Cave is playing the

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Speaker 6: opening night of the Wellington Arts Festival, with Oldest Harding

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Speaker 6: opening for her. There on two nights together that is

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Speaker 6: going to be warped and dark and twisted. I actually

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Speaker 6: just booked my flights yesterday for this. I think that's

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Speaker 6: going to be something to behold. Those two Oldest Harding

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Speaker 6: in nick Cave together, It's just gonna be a really

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Speaker 6: like twisted night. And then of course the Spliteans reunion.

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Speaker 6: I've never seen Splitoons. You know, I was just a kid,

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Speaker 6: a toddler when they were, you know, big in the eighties.

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Speaker 6: I've never had the chance to see them live their

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Speaker 6: headlining Electric Avenue, their first shows. I think it's in

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Speaker 6: fifteen years too, So yeah, that's probably the one I'm

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Speaker 6: most looking forward to.

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Speaker 7: What is that?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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Speaker 18: Are they still going to wear those crazy outfits?

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Speaker 5: What are they?

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Speaker 11: What are they?

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Speaker 18: What are they? What are they going to do up there? Yeah?

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Speaker 18: It's gonna be wild.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's gonna be fantastic. I'm pretty sure that

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Speaker 4: the lead guitarist from Geese as well, Cameron Winter, he's

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Speaker 4: playing a solo show I think, like at the Holy

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Speaker 4: Trinity or someone like that, because he's got he's got. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: solo music was quite different, I think game.

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Speaker 18: Yeah I have a ticket for that too, Jack, I'll

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Speaker 18: look at you about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course you do. I think, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's going to be fantastic. Man, there is a lot

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Speaker 4: to look forward to. But you Reckon Prize is going

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Speaker 4: to be the is going to be the big thing

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Speaker 4: for twenty twenty six. So when is the when? When

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Speaker 4: is Harry Styles actually touring.

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Speaker 6: He's doing throughout twenty twenty six. He's doing thirty dates

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Speaker 6: at Madison Square Garden, which is just unbelievable. To the

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Speaker 6: confidence to go out there and book thirty shows at

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Speaker 6: Madison Square Garden. I don't think anyone's ever done that before.

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Speaker 6: He's playing there for like two and a half months,

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Speaker 6: like a residency.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, pretty well.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, the confidence to it. The

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Speaker 4: thing I love is that the announcing the tour dates

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Speaker 4: and announcing a month at Madison Square Garden before the

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Speaker 4: album has actually been released, Like that's the real flex

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Speaker 4: and the whole thing, don't you think it is?

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Speaker 18: But when you listen to that song, I think he

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Speaker 18: must know.

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Speaker 4: I think he knows. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's

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Speaker 4: just putting his finger in the air. I think Harry

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Speaker 4: Styles has every reason to be pretty confident on that front.

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Speaker 4: Very good, All right, Hey, look forward to your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on all those different shows and albums in the next week.

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Speaker 4: While thanks Chris Chris Shultz. Of course, you can find

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Speaker 4: them on a substack. Boiler Room is the name of

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Speaker 4: his substack, and we will pick out one of those

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Speaker 4: good big songs to play out the show. In a

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Speaker 4: couple of minutes seven to twelve on Newstalks, he'db.

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Speaker 1: Cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team news talks ab.

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Speaker 4: Well, Jason Pine is going to try and get a

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Speaker 4: bit more detail on what happens next with the All

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Speaker 4: Backs coaching situation this afternoon on weekend support, counting down

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Speaker 4: to Walkland FC's kickoff five pm, the first time they're

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Speaker 4: at home for three weeks this afternoon as well. Hopefully

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Speaker 4: the weather improves pretty squadly heavy showers across Aukland at

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Speaker 4: the moment noo, so it could be a bit of

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Speaker 4: a wet occasion for everything from our show this morning.

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Speaker 4: Go to NEWSTALKSDB dot co dot NZ Forward slash Jack.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for all of your texts and

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Speaker 4: emails throughout the morning. Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby

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Speaker 4: for doing all of the setup stuff, pressing all the

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Speaker 4: buttons and dials for us this morning. We're gonna leave

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Speaker 4: you with book wronger Ther new album is out very soon,

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Speaker 4: of course, this is it's light summer time, say next week.

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Speaker 22: If you can.

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Speaker 10: Imagine wait until it happened, you.

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Speaker 4: Could wait to freston.

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Speaker 10: Waiting for the God Star. Have you been asleeper? Mister Love?

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Speaker 8: Do Do Do.

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Speaker 7: Do? Do Do.

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