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Speaker 2: Wellcome onning to you and thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: Why is the Malori party imploding that? In fifteen and

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Speaker 2: seven after five. The agenda tay the fourth of November

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Speaker 2: Okay, now to the United States where the government shutdown

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Speaker 4: It is very painful for me to explain that happened. Still,

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Speaker 2: Because the damage to this economy has been so huge

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Speaker 2: So this report is called better Health through Better Data

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Speaker 2: Why do we not and why have we not collected

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Speaker 6: Well, it's partly will you know, it has been collected

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Speaker 6: I do. I mean, I think the absolute key here

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Speaker 6: the clinicians, the general practitioners and their spectationers have a

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Speaker 2: But I mean you can share the data without actually

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Speaker 2: it's deeply ingrained about you know that then information you

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Speaker 6: Yep, no, that's right. There are ways to manage that,

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Speaker 1: HEREB News and views you trust to start your day.

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Speaker 2: Twenty out to five. Here's a story we should have

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Speaker 2: Cemeteries and Crematoria Collective says Auckland and other regions are

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Speaker 6: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. Just how close are we to being full?

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Speaker 7: Well, like to say, there are a few regions which

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Speaker 7: You know, we're trying to councils to plan proactively. When

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did they do it? How do you make

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Speaker 7: a Public Works Act. Under the Burial Cremation Act, all

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Speaker 2: And New Zealand is still preferring to be buried rather

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Speaker 2: All right, And this is a bit dark as well.

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Speaker 7: Look, a lot of the councils that are in this

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Speaker 7: It is a complex thing to try and find land.

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Speaker 2: Cemeteries and Crematoria Collective. Now here's a fun fact I

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Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be this way. The Maori Party

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Speaker 2: now the high rises for the dead that Taylor mentioned,

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Speaker 2: He's come back to me with a text saying, I

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Speaker 2: it's called pragmatism, isn't it. Meanwhile, on the GPS, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Did you listen to Mike's interview with Earlene TOLDU yesterday?

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Speaker 2: Did you know there's a bloke who put a bet

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Speaker 2: If Bukaroo comes first, this fellow who did a seven

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Speaker 6: You wanted to.

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Speaker 2: We here earlier. Just Kenzie and I Love of the

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Speaker 2: via Deans and that's her latest single, bub Baby Steps.

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Speaker 2: She's coming to New Zealand next year now. Mark sent

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Speaker 2: going to cost? Five billion?

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Speaker 2: Dame Nolean doesn't really know what Netball New Zealand's beef

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Speaker 2: dithering and we're all tired of it. Just fire someone

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Speaker 2: one to six. It's time to go right around the nation.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be all right, Jamie Cunningham from Otago,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Santana Minerals has lodged a fast track application to look

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Speaker 2: for gold in central Otago.

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Speaker 9: That's right. The companies uploaded more than nine thousand pages,

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Speaker 2: All right, yes, s and Sam Neil, the famous actor

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Speaker 9: Cloud increasing today with a chance of shower from midday.

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Speaker 2: To chrastiuch, should we go? Clear? Shure, We're good morning

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Speaker 2: to you. Good morning, So we're off to Chrashjuwish Women's

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Speaker 2: Hospital prisonry crash Uched Women's Prison. There's a bit of

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is the Mother's Project and they already do

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Speaker 10: this in Auckland Prison Andrew. But this is a storybook

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Speaker 10: initiative so effectively it enables women who are in prison

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Speaker 10: She says it's a practical way for kids to know

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Speaker 10: that present isn't a barrier to hearing their mum's voice

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Speaker 10: and is proven to help reduce some other's likelihood of reoffending.

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Speaker 2: And how's the weather for Canterbury?

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Speaker 10: Nice?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Max Toll from Wellington, good morning to you morning.

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Speaker 2: Council's got a spiffy new headquarters and now we know

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Speaker 2: how much it costs.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this one's not earth shattering, but more point of

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Speaker 12: journalistic principle. Really shows how difficult the city Council can be.

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Speaker 12: They've been refusing for some time now to tell us

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Speaker 12: how much they're spending to rent and to fit out.

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Speaker 2: These new headquarters.

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Speaker 12: It's a twenty five year lease with the former Data

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Speaker 12: comm building, so it's not a new building, a very

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Speaker 12: noticeable one. Data Com overlooking frank Kitts Park, two ten

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Speaker 12: or so level conjoined towers. We complain to the ombusman.

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Speaker 12: Why the secrecy? The ombusman wrote to the council's CEO.

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Speaker 12: Of course sided with us and they do now have

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Speaker 12: to tell us what that spend is. It's rate payer money,

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Speaker 12: the transparency thing. Two hundred and seven million dollars for

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Speaker 12: the lease and then more on top of that for

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Speaker 12: the fit out. Twelve hundred staff will be based there.

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Speaker 12: There's the mayoral office, the council chambers. The move from

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Speaker 12: they're currently up at the Terrace was supposed to happen

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Speaker 12: earlier this year, but it's been delayed by about a

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Speaker 12: year to early twenty twenty six now because I think

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Speaker 12: that fit out and getting everything right has been a

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Speaker 12: little more complicated than expected.

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Speaker 2: Well, goodwek from the Wellington News team for keeping the

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Speaker 2: Willington Council on the turn and keeping the rate players informed.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather fine?

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Speaker 12: Today's stronger northerly is just sixteen the high in the city.

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Speaker 2: All right to or can we go? Never let a

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Speaker 2: man a good morning to good morning here? So I

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Speaker 2: talked about this yesterday actually a watercare spill into the

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Speaker 2: Marhalan River which affected the oyster farmers up at Marholrang

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Speaker 2: and they have to close down for twenty eight days

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Speaker 2: because of this spill. So what's next to.

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Speaker 11: Yes, correct, well, now we know that water Care is

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Speaker 11: offering financial support to these affected Auckland oyster farmers, so

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Speaker 11: you're quite right. The farms have got to remain closed

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Speaker 11: until later this month. Water Care says, now this overflow

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Speaker 11: was caused by a technical failure following a power sage

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Speaker 11: at the Warkworth pump station. So now water Care is

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Speaker 11: in discussions with Aquaculture New Zealand. They represent the affected

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Speaker 11: farmers and this is all to do with the financial support,

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Speaker 11: which is good because they do need it. Watercre says,

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Speaker 11: what they've been testing and the pond water now is

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Speaker 11: within safe levels and that's good. And they've got two

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Speaker 11: investigations into this incident.

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Speaker 2: There one bloke's got to throw away eighty thousand oysters

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Speaker 2: flipping here that just because of the section. So it's

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Speaker 2: going to cost. But yeah, as I said yesterday, this

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Speaker 2: is not just one spill. No, they've had thirty nine

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Speaker 2: spills all controlled over the last year and they've got

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Speaker 2: consent to do two hundred and there's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a move saying that water Care should do a whole

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Speaker 2: heit more than worrying about one storm year.

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Speaker 11: So spirit of thought for those farmers. Yeah, not good.

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Speaker 2: How's Hawkin's weather?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 13: Fine?

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Speaker 11: Apart from some morning cloud another hot day twenty two

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Speaker 11: the high here in all clouds.

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Speaker 2: And I thank you neither. Okay. It's seventeen minutes to six.

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Speaker 2: It's this what is it? The first Tuesday of November,

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Speaker 2: and that's always the race that stopped two nations Flemington

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Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup. Are conditions hard and fast? No, they

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Speaker 2: had not. Donald Demayer with details next here on news talks.

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Speaker 1: Hereb International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes to six to Australia. We go, more specifically

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Speaker 2: to Melbourne we go. Donald Tomorrow, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's Cup day and you're up early because you're going.

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Speaker 13: I am going and I will be getting ready very

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Speaker 13: very shortly.

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Speaker 2: But first I'm going to tell you that.

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Speaker 13: We are very very excited about the one hundred and

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Speaker 13: sixty fifth running of the Melbourne Cup. The Cultural Institution,

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Speaker 13: twenty four horses vying for victory, and again we know

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Speaker 13: that I'm personally backing Jamie Melham, who is the female jockey,

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Speaker 13: the jockey that won the core Field Cup last month,

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Speaker 13: and she says that she did a little rain dance

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Speaker 13: and it's kind of worked. So we're talking about the

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Speaker 13: weather a lot in the lead up to the race

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Speaker 13: because it does look like it's going to be raining

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Speaker 13: all day and it might even still be raining during

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Speaker 13: the race. There was a dumping, a drenching yesterday and yeah,

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Speaker 13: the rain has not gone away. But to her horse

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Speaker 13: loves the rain apparently, so it's all good. But interestingly

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Speaker 13: on a New Zealand horse, I might add smoke in romans.

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Speaker 13: Jamie Mallam's husband is also run the Melbourne Cup. Ben

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Speaker 13: Meloam is also a jockey, so they're up against each other,

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Speaker 13: so they might be making history in another way as well.

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Speaker 13: So let's see who wins out of those two. What

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Speaker 13: else can I tell you? The National anthem will be

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Speaker 13: sung by none other than Greta Bradman. Yes, the grandchild

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Speaker 13: of Sir Donald Bradman. Isn't that lovely?

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Speaker 2: And I've met Greta. She had an album yea, yeah,

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Speaker 2: she had a now Ma out about six or seven

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Speaker 2: years ago. She came here and she's interviewed on my

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Speaker 2: Sunday News sorts in b show. She's a great singer,

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Speaker 2: she's a great, great person. Fantastic this rain.

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Speaker 6: How wonderful.

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Speaker 2: This rain is going to flatten all the fascinators.

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Speaker 13: Yes, but pillboxes are in this year, so we're okay,

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Speaker 13: We're okay this year okay.

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Speaker 2: And what are you going to wear?

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Speaker 13: Well, I'm actually really into vintage wear, so I've actually

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Speaker 13: gone and bought myself a beautiful slick black suit and

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Speaker 13: a lovely milliner Melbourne milliner called Renee Anderson made me

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Speaker 13: this gorgeous thing to put in my head with the

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Speaker 13: handcut red leather flowers. So I'm very much looking for

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Speaker 13: to getting all dot up and heading to the track

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Speaker 13: for very shortly.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget to your umbrella. And I thank you

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Speaker 2: Donald tomorow And just a few things about this. On

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Speaker 2: the racing side, there are no New Zealand trained runners

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Speaker 2: this year, but there are two New Zealand breads, so

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Speaker 2: we've bred them, but Ozzie's owned them. The two horses

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Speaker 2: that are Kiwi's torron Zeno and of course Smoking Romans

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Speaker 2: that we've been talking about before. In fact, because there's

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Speaker 2: what Ozzie ten million dollars. That's what eleven point four

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Speaker 2: million New Zealand in the stake. Twenty one of the

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Speaker 2: twenty four horses in today's race are actually bred in

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Speaker 2: the Northern Hemisphere and two are bred in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and only one bread in Australia. There are eight Irish Breads,

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Speaker 2: seven French Bread, three of British Bread, two for the US,

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Speaker 2: one from the Japan. These horses are mostly Australian owned.

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Speaker 2: They have raced in Australia for a while. But there

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Speaker 2: we go. Australia is not making good horses. Is eleven

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Speaker 2: to six News Talk SIVY. All right, finally some good

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Speaker 2: economic news. More people are getting mortgages. Centric data out

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Speaker 2: today shows new residential mortgage lending is up over twenty

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Speaker 2: percent year on year for the second month in a row.

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Speaker 2: So to discuss this, I'm joined by Westpac's chief economists

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Speaker 2: Kelly Echold. So Hello, Kelly, good morning. Does this mean

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Speaker 2: the economy is back on track or what?

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Speaker 14: Well? I think it's sitting in the right direction. It's

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Speaker 14: still pretty early days yet, and many of the indicators

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Speaker 14: for growth for where we are now are still a

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Speaker 14: bit subpar, but certainly those lower interest rates are starting

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Speaker 14: to flow through.

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Speaker 2: How much of this new lending is from first home buyers.

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Speaker 14: There is some of it, although I would have to

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Speaker 14: say that when we look at the credit statistics, we

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Speaker 14: actually see the investors are the strongest part of the

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Speaker 14: market so far, but some of the early indications we've

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Speaker 14: seen in the last few months suggest that the more

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Speaker 14: kind of like low income marginal buyer is more important.

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Speaker 14: So that's the first time buias there.

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Speaker 2: So the investors are that because the tax thing that

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Speaker 2: happened after the last selection and finding the interest rates

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Speaker 2: of form.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I think particularly it's the lower interest rates

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Speaker 14: that are important for the investors. It just means that

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Speaker 14: that hurd or rate of return you need to beat

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Speaker 14: is a bit lower. And obviously the tax changes that

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Speaker 14: were brought in by this government as well are obviously helpful.

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Speaker 2: So of course we all look to the RBNZ and

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank and try to figure out what they're

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Speaker 2: going to do next. Will they be hearing you today

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Speaker 2: looking at these numbers and thinking they've done enough or

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Speaker 2: do you think we're still on track for another cut

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Speaker 2: this month?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 14: I think we're still on track for another cut this month.

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Speaker 14: I mean, most of the data, as I've said, has

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Speaker 14: been a little bit subpar.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I think.

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Speaker 14: They might have been a little bit worried about that.

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Speaker 14: But yesterday, for example, we did get a really good

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Speaker 14: month of building consens number and it sort of went

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Speaker 14: up to seven point two percent for the month. That

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Speaker 14: was the first the third big month in a row,

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Speaker 14: So that will be relieving them. I think that the

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Speaker 14: things are starting to pen out. Is expected that interest

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Speaker 14: rates have gone down a long way, and that's the

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Speaker 14: leading edge of the recovery, but there's still quite a

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Speaker 14: long way to go here, and it is just one

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Speaker 14: set of indicators as well.

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Speaker 2: So you had a good profit yesterday, up sixteen percent,

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Speaker 2: a net profit of one one hundred and ninety seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars. Actually it is up thirteen percent. So how

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Speaker 2: much can we thank this increase in lending for your

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Speaker 2: success over the course of this year.

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Speaker 14: Well, I mean the lending growth has actually still been

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Speaker 14: a bit subpar. I mean that it is actually starting

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Speaker 14: to improve. So I mean, if we look at business lending,

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Speaker 14: for example, it's finally poked up to around looking at

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Speaker 14: my number here, three point seven percent, So that's sort

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Speaker 14: of the highest level since about twenty twenty three. I mean,

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Speaker 14: I think we're looking forward to a better operating environment

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Speaker 14: for the whole economy in the next year.

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Speaker 2: All right, So are we beyond green shoots? And do

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Speaker 2: we are we actually starting to poke out of the

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Speaker 2: ground for a metaphor or an allegory that you know

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Speaker 2: that's fit.

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Speaker 14: Oh, I think we're actually just seeing the odd green

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Speaker 14: shoot poking out at the moment. We need to put

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Speaker 14: a water on it, basically in a bit of time

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Speaker 14: so that you can actually see something a bit more

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Speaker 14: than that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kelly Echold, I thank you so much for your

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Speaker 2: time today. Kelly Echold is the senior economist from a

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Speaker 2: chief economist from a Westpac who did that profit And again,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say one one hundred and ninety seven

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Speaker 2: million dollars up thirteen net operating income three thousand and

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Speaker 2: eighty nine million dollars up eight percent. And again I'm

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Speaker 2: saying three thousand million instead of three billions. So you

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Speaker 2: just figure out how much money we're talking about here.

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Speaker 2: And here's to Robin who sent me a text Andrew,

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Speaker 2: if you stack one hundred dollar bills a meter high,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly one million dollars. But you need to stack

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Speaker 2: them one killer meter high to get to a billion.

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Speaker 2: That's how much a billion is. And I would say that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that might actually make it real for people who just

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Speaker 2: so casually save three billion, four billion, five billion, Come on,

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Speaker 2: thousands of millions.

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 1: analysis earlier this year with him Andrew Dickens and are

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Speaker 1: the Supercenter explore our these accessories and servicing fall in

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Speaker 1: one news talks.

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Speaker 14: That'd be Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about racing, but i'm the fact

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Speaker 2: that only one out of the twenty four horses in

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Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup are bred in Australia. Texas says Australia

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Speaker 2: breds top horses, but they specialize in sprinters because most

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Speaker 2: of the races in OZ are sprints and in general

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Speaker 2: it's a better economic investment. So the stayers are coming

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Speaker 2: from the northern Hemisphere and to from New Zealand, and

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking joins me this morning. Good morning, Mike, greetings

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Speaker 2: to you. No Lean interview was well, I think everybody's

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Speaker 2: saying it made things worse.

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Speaker 8: Yes, it did, unfortunately, and so but you know, what

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Speaker 8: do you do? What can you do?

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Speaker 2: Have a backburn and do something.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you could, I suppose if I had my way. Now,

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Speaker 8: I'd like to hear from Matt Winner I or Jenny

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Speaker 8: Wiley who runs I talk to Matt last Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and what do you say?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 8: So what you what you'd like to I'm told behind

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Speaker 8: the scenes it's a thing that I won't elaborate on,

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Speaker 8: but the moment you open it up, it's Pandora's box

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Speaker 8: and once you are into it, it's a catastrophic shambles.

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Speaker 8: And it's one of those semi it's one of those

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Speaker 8: semi intangible things that's a beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Now look look just either father Dame, fire the players

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Speaker 2: or fire the management. Just do something.

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Speaker 8: Shouldn't have shouldn't have ever got to that part, have

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Speaker 8: started saying the complaints are they go, well, that's that

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Speaker 8: they're not happy. Then they're no longer in the silver pins.

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Speaker 8: The ends, simple as that. Hayleam Lawson this morning, I

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Speaker 8: haven't I don't think he's done an interview with anyone

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Speaker 8: here this year at all. Great, so we'll talk to him.

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Speaker 8: He's currently in Arizona playing golf ahead of this weekend's

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Speaker 8: Brazilian Grand Pro.

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Speaker 2: Have he's hanging out with people from forward. They like him,

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Speaker 2: they do like him.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully they'll like him next year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, so we'll ask him about that. Well that,

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Speaker 2: of course, very good stuff. Okay, The make Casting Breakfast

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