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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Glenn Maxwell has a book out. It's called The Showman

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Speaker 2: and Charts. Has comeback from a traumatic broken leg at

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Speaker 2: the back end of twenty twenty two to being a

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Speaker 2: huge part of Australia's twenty twenty three World Cup win,

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Speaker 2: which included one of the most extraordinary one day innings

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Speaker 2: ever played, forty hairs.

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Speaker 3: On their feet and legend unbelievable, famous, lafable thing you've

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Speaker 3: probably ever seen cricket, staggering, absolutely one bowing, what a

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Speaker 3: one and he should not have to walk off the part.

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Speaker 4: He should be carried off.

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Speaker 2: What a performance he had two hundred and one not

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Speaker 2: out in that World Cup pull match at the back

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Speaker 2: end of last year. Woven into the story are some

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Speaker 2: brilliant sights into the events and people that have shaped

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Speaker 2: him into one of the world's premiere all round cricketers.

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Speaker 2: It is a terrific read. Glenn Maxwell is with us. Glenn,

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Speaker 2: congratulations on the book, your first one. Are you happy?

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Speaker 2: How happy are you with the way it's come out?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Extremely proud of the way it's come out.

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Speaker 5: It's a lot of hard work and a lot of

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Speaker 5: time put into it, and certainly very proud of how

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Speaker 5: it's come up.

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Speaker 2: Can we start where the book starts, after the prologue

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Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing with your ankle break

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Speaker 2: November twenty twenty two, freak accident at a makes fiftieth birthday.

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Speaker 2: There's a photo. I think that photo should come with

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Speaker 2: a warning as well. Now that you're on the other

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Speaker 2: side of it, how concerned were you initially that it

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Speaker 2: would severely affect your career?

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I was really naive to how much

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Speaker 5: dammage I'd truly done, to my thought, and had no

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Speaker 5: idea of the magnitude of effort and time that was

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Speaker 5: owning to I suppose get it back up to speed

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Speaker 5: to even be ninety percent of what.

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Speaker 4: It once was.

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Speaker 5: And once I suppose I got on the journey of

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Speaker 5: it was only then that I sort of understood the

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Speaker 5: sometimes read back through and sort of remember all of that, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose it sort of makes it all part

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Speaker 4: of your journey.

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Speaker 2: How did you navigate the darkest parts of that, the

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Speaker 2: times when you thought, Hey, there isn't a finish line

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Speaker 2: do what I used to do well.

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Speaker 5: To be honest, I never really felt like that. I

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Speaker 5: always thought that there was going to be a way

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Speaker 5: I suppose a hurdle that I hadn't been able to

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Speaker 5: like that throughout my career to if you have a roadblock,

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Speaker 5: And I just saw this as another hurdle, and it

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Speaker 5: than probably some of the other hurdles that I've had

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Speaker 5: in my career. All right, let's jump forward then, because

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Speaker 5: people can read all about your rehab and the endless

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Speaker 2: You got there. I want to jump to your to

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Speaker 2: one night out of that's okay, Glenn pat Cummins comes in,

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Speaker 2: You're seven for ninety one, chasing two ninety two to one,

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Speaker 2: three hours later, double one hundred, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: up on you. Aaroni and Smith said, the most remarkable

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Speaker 2: so brilliantly about it.

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Speaker 5: Mate.

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Speaker 2: What's it like having that moment that people will never forget?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty surreal.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I've had moments throughout my career where

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Speaker 4: I suppose a moment that.

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Speaker 5: was an incredible night and one I'm very grateful for.

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Speaker 2: I've watched back the highlights just an advance of chatting

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Speaker 2: to you, and the last eighty runs. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: just standing there and you know you're you're not moving

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Speaker 2: What was that like, man and that last eighty runs

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Speaker 5: Well, I've talked about different stages of this. I reckon cricketers,

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Speaker 5: I reckon I've been lucky enough as a cricketer. I

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Speaker 5: and you're able to walk off either undefeated or walk

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Speaker 4: Of the game.

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Speaker 5: And this was just one of those days where it

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Speaker 4: And yeah, it certainly wasn't the way I thought my

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Speaker 5: I think as soon as I started cramping and my

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Speaker 4: Is going to be over soon.

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Speaker 5: That's going to have to do a lot of this

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Speaker 5: But yeah, just kept on finding gaps, had a bit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remarkable stuff. I mean, earlier on in the tournament,

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Speaker 2: which means you missed the Paul game against Than I'd

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Speaker 2: that World Cup. How do you reflect on that incident?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was It was a strange incident because because

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Speaker 5: I had no idea what happened, so I sort of

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Speaker 5: still had no really, I had no memory of the incident.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was a really strange feeling, knowing that I was

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Speaker 4: Just completely gone.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, the next few days were a bit strange.

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Speaker 5: I felt all sorts of range of emotions and then

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Speaker 2: You won the World Cup in twenty fifteen. Was twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three A bit more special though. I mean, you're

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Speaker 2: right so vividly about it. Was there something a bit

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about how much doubts there were and

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Speaker 5: Losing those two and to sort of come back from

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Speaker 5: that was pretty incredible and amazing to be a part of.

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Speaker 5: And there's so many doubts, especially from back home after

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Speaker 5: upset that have a brilliant final where Pat Cummins masterminded.

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Speaker 2: Another underlying theme in the book is your relative lack

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Speaker 2: of red ball cricket for Australia. You've played over two

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I certainly do.

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Speaker 5: There's a tour coming up to Sri Lanka at the

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Speaker 4: I'm certainly keen to put my hand up for that.

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Speaker 5: It's also in the lead up to the Champions Trophy,

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Speaker 5: who knows what that squad's going to look like. The

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Speaker 5: and the structure of the team's going to be completely

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Speaker 5: different as well. So looking forward, I'd love to be

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Speaker 5: on selection, it's probably not going to define how my

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Speaker 2: Just want to ask you about a couple of incidents

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Speaker 2: my colleagues found out I was chatting to you and

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Speaker 2: he said, you got to ask him about the group

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Speaker 2: game at the twenty fifteen World Cup Eden Park. You

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Speaker 2: Do you remember that.

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Speaker 5: Like just instant, I just when the things you do

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Speaker 2: The other one, other one was Wellington in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 2: And just something else you write about twenty nineteen, the

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Speaker 4: And I suppose play the game that I grew up loving.

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Speaker 5: To be able to I suppose get through it and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just one example of many. In the

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Speaker 2: Like I say, it's a cracking reader. I hope you

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Speaker 2: Good Man again, congrats on the book. I hope you

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Speaker 2: sell heaps. Thanks to having a chat to us across

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Speaker 4: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: Cheers, no, thank you, Glenn, Glenn Maxwell. There the books

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Speaker 2: we lose five for not many and yeah, Glenn Maxwell

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Speaker 2: giving it the choke to the fans. What a great,

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Speaker 2: big part of this book, The Showman by Glenn Maxwell.

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