1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Off the back of all that action in the United States, 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: including the fact that the United States has now pulled 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: out of the World Health Organization. They've also canceled their 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: membership for the Paris Climate Accord, terror threats. You've got 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: pardons of plenty of the list goes on. Matt Tyrrell 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: is joining us now. He's the former chief of staff 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: to the new Secretary of State Marco Rubio and managing 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: partner of Firehouse Strategies. Matt, good morning, Welcome to the show. 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: Great to be with you. 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 1: Lovely to have you here. First of all, what is 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: your your and Republican's reaction to the I suppose the show, 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: but also the content of what happened? 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Well, look, first of all, nor surprise. I mean, the 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: bottom line is is just Trump being Trump. With everything 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: he's been doing. This has been obviously a non traditional inauguration. 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 2: Part of that is because of the weather it took 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: effect in watching DC yesterday, but part of him being him. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: You saw him on the heels of the inauguration speech yesterday, 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: then go to Capitol One Arena where he did a 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: rally that's unheard of went during an inauguration day and 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 2: knowing that He signed executive orders right then and there 22 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: in front of a massive crowd of supporters. Then went 23 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: to the Oval office and you know, with reporters in 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: the room signing more executive orders. You know, it was 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: a day in which he was fulfilling his Day one promise, 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: and that was the move on key issues, namely border security, immigration, 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: mass deportation, and of course on energy and other issues. 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: There's more to come. You know, you're gonna see more 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: executive orders come here out of the gate. But of 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: course legislation will be key. Working with Republicans on Capitol 31 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: Hill in particular to drive board his legislative agenda. Expect 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 2: one big bill to be crafted here soon to include 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: tax reform, among many other promises that President Trump made 34 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: in the campaign trail. He campaigned on a lot of promises. 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 2: Now he's delivering. That's what I think Americans are saying 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: right now. 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's delivering the executive orders. But will they hold 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: up in the courts. I noticed that there's already been 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: a lawsuit file this is about the birthright citizenship. 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: Well, look, he had spoken to that yesterday and he's 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: asked that question with respect to birthright and other issues 42 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: and look throughout he is, he said, we'll see. I 43 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: think he feels that his administration is on solid ground 44 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 2: with the birthrate issue among the other executive orders that 45 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: he is signing. Here. We'll see what happens. But the 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: bottom line here is he's a mandate. You know, it's 47 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: not just the executive orders, it's the voters and the 48 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: American people voted for his positions on immigration, border security, energy, 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: foreign policy. He has a clear mandate. He not only 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: won the electoral college, he won the popular vote. The 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: next one hundred days are critical though, for him getting 52 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: his agenda across the finish line. Everydale matter in his 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: four year term, but the first one hundred days will 54 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 2: be key for these executive orders and working with Congress 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: to get that one big bill passed. They'll have so 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: many different things and it they'll be instrumental to his agenda. 57 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: So obviously that's Democratic state attorneys sort of filing the stuff. 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: What about Democrats more generally, how are they reacting to 59 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Trump's in aderation. 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: I think Democrats feel lost right now. I mean, look, 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: it's unclear to me who their leader is right now. 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: I certainly woult to say that's former Vice president Harris, 63 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: it's not foreign President Biden. You know who is the 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: leader right now the Democrat Party. Who is their next 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: in line four years from now to be the presumptive 66 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: Democratic nominee for president. Those are questions they have to answer. 67 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: But the bottom line right now is I don't think 68 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,119 Speaker 2: that their policy positions clearly are not aligned with where 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: the average American is right now. You know, the vast 70 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: majority of Americans in this country, majority of Americans that 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: should say, in this country voted for President Trump. Again, 72 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: that was not just with electoral colleges, with the popular vote. 73 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 2: He has a clear mandate right now. And by the way, 74 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: it's the polling recently that's come out that shows that 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: that's holding. Take for example, on immigration and border security 76 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: and mass deportation. The latest data I've seen out there 77 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: in terms of polling shows that the majority of Americans 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: agree with what President Trump is doing on those issues. 79 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here, but right now, I think 80 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: he's off to a great start, a strong start. You know, 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: it's a long ways to go here in this term, 82 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: but you know, he is hitting the ground running and 83 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: he's doing in a way that I think a lot 84 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: of Americans are very receptive. 85 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: To he Court, of course, accused Biden of weaponizing the courts. 86 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: Are you, if you stood back, can you, in your 87 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: heart of hots honest about things? Are you not worried 88 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: that he might just do the exact same thing. 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: I don't think it's something he wants to do. I 90 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: don't think it's something he's going to do. And I 91 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: think it's the furthest saying that they is going to 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: be a part of his agenda. I think the bottom 93 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: line here is that this is someone who's gonna be 94 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: focused in on delivering on the promises he made during 95 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: the campaign trail. I think that's where his focus should be. 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: I think he has said that there's no question in 97 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: his view that there needs to be Jurassic reforms made 98 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: to the Department of Justice. And I think he points 99 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: to what he saw yesterday, what many Americans saw yesterday 100 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 2: with President Biden pardoning members of his own family. This 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: does not sit well, not just with Republicans but Democrats alike. 102 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: That was a big issue for people on both sides 103 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: of political alley yesterday. But to answer your question, I 104 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: think he's gon be focused on the economy, inflation, border security, energy, Ukraine, Russia, 105 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: Middle East policy, you know the Abraham Accords, you know 106 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: China policy. You know that. The list goes on and 107 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: on of the issues that we were facing as a nation, 108 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: as a world. He's going to have his hands full, 109 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: but there's no question I think it's be bringing reforms 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: to the Department of Justice. Expect that particular with his 111 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: new Attorney general. 112 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: You with the chief of Staff of Mica Rubia. He's 113 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: just been sworn in as the new Secretary of State 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: for the United States. He's what he said, I. 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: Want to thank President Trump for nominating me. This is 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: an extraordinary honor and a privilege to serve in this role, 117 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 3: to be here, frankly, to oversee the greatest, the most effective, 118 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: the most talented, the most experienced diplomatic core in the 119 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 3: history of the world resides in this building. 120 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: He's got a big job behead of him, doesn't he. 121 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Big job a lot? You know, this is a different 122 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: world what President Trump faced when he first came to 123 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 2: office in his first term in twenty seventeen. Very different 124 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: worlds on the foreign policy stage. And he's got a 125 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: Secretary of State right now who's got his hands full. 126 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: But there is no one better to help President Trump 127 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: take on the challenges in the foreign policy stage than 128 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: Secretary of Rubio. Look, this is someone who's served on 129 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: the Foreign Relations Committee, the Senate Intel Committee. He knows 130 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: these role leaders. He knows the issues facing our country 131 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,239 Speaker 2: and the world than anybody you know. In the bottom 132 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: line here is that he's gonna be a great Secretary 133 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: of State, in my views, be a great individual to 134 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: have in the room for President Trump is making decisions 135 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: around the direction that the country is going to go 136 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 2: on foreign policy. At the end of the day, this 137 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: is the Trump administration, though, and I think he's going 138 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 2: to be set in the tone, set in the vision. 139 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: I think you have a great Secretary of State out 140 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: there is and to help him implement it. 141 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: All right, Matt Terrell, thanks so much for your time, 142 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: Managing partner of Firehouse Strategy, former chief of staff to 143 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: Macro Rubio. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: live to news Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, 145 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.