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Speaker 1: Right now, though, it is time to catch up with

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Speaker 1: our sports talk hosts for this evening. Jason Pine is

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Speaker 1: in the hot seat from seven Galada, Parni Keller, Jack,

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Speaker 1: So what's your view as a proud Wellingtonian, try and

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Speaker 1: put your bias aside for a moment here. Should TJ

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Speaker 1: pett Natter go on the end of the year Northern Tour?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yes, absolutely for me, he does and I'm hovering

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Speaker 2: above this, Jack, I am, I'm looking. Look the numbers

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Speaker 2: alone would tell you TJ's played seven of the eight

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Speaker 2: Test matches this year. Noah Hotham had half an hour

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Speaker 2: off the bench. A promising player obviously and part of

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Speaker 2: the future of the All Blacks. But I think we

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Speaker 2: need to balance looking to the future with trying to

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Speaker 2: win these Test matches up north. And if they decide

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Speaker 2: not to take TJ, then you three half backs of

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Speaker 2: cam roy Guard, Cortiers Latama and Noah Hotham, who between

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Speaker 2: them only really have a handful of tests. I mean,

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Speaker 2: cam roy Gard is the future, but at least not

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Speaker 2: forget he hasn't played a heck of a lot of

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Speaker 2: test rugby. He didn't play the big games at the

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Speaker 2: Rugby World Cup last year. He had an amazing Super

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Speaker 2: Rugby season until he got injured, and everyone agrees he's

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Speaker 2: the man moving forward. But I'd be I'd be taking

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Speaker 2: TJ every day of the week just to help transition

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Speaker 2: it across. Same goes for Sam Kaine. I think, no,

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Speaker 2: we know both of them are going at the end

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Speaker 2: of this year. But like I say, get the balance

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Speaker 2: between looking to the future, which you've got a lot

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Speaker 2: of time for. Really, it's only twenty twenty four, after all,

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Speaker 2: the next Rugby wil Cup are still three years away

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Speaker 2: and trying to win these test matches. Sam Kine started

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Speaker 2: the last four games in the number seven jersey. So

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Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Just say thanks very

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Speaker 2: much for your time, guys, we're going to move on.

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Speaker 2: I think you take them both.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree. You know, they might

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Speaker 1: be getting a little long in the tooth. At least

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Speaker 1: they all by extented. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So yeah, I'm with you on both of

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Speaker 1: those calls. So the black Caps put up a much

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Speaker 1: better fight in that second inning He's against Ralanka and

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Speaker 1: Gaul still wasn't to be a couple of hundred runs

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Speaker 1: behind at the end of the day, How concerned should

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Speaker 1: we be about their prospects for a tour in India.

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Speaker 2: Very concerned, very concerned. Indeed, I feel like our red

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Speaker 2: Bull reputation is really on the line here. It was

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Speaker 2: only three years ago we won the World Test Championship

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Speaker 2: and now against Sri Lanka the other day, Jack, they

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Speaker 2: got their highest ever score against us by over one hundred,

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Speaker 2: and they were only five down and then we were

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Speaker 2: the six O two for five declared. Then we were

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Speaker 2: bowled out for our lowest ever total against them. It

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Speaker 2: really was, it was. It was an abomination of a

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Speaker 2: first couple of days. And you know, regardless of the

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Speaker 2: extra grip they showed in the second inning. So the

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Speaker 2: sanctity of the white ball game is a long way away.

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Speaker 2: We've got three Test matches against India, then three against

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Speaker 2: England before they even see a white ball where we

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Speaker 2: forget the result the day after they happened. Look, I

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Speaker 2: think they need to do something and probably a few

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Speaker 2: things before they get back to India, who you know,

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Speaker 2: are going to be a much more formidable force than

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Speaker 2: Sri Lanka in home conditions. Otherwise we're steering down the

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Speaker 2: barrel of five, you know, five defeats to go with

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Speaker 2: the two we had against Australia here in the summer,

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Speaker 2: that'll be what seven, So we're talking about seven straight

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Speaker 2: Test defeats before England get here. That is not the

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Speaker 2: kind of way you want to approach your home against play.

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Speaker 1: Dev was advocate though, that second innings batting in the subcontinent,

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Speaker 1: where the ball is moving like at ninety degree angles

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Speaker 1: every time it hits the dust, that second innings I

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Speaker 1: thought might give them a sliver of confidence heading into

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Speaker 1: the Indian mainland.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're right. I hope you're right, Jack, I do.

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Speaker 2: I look, and you're right. They at least had some

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Speaker 2: time in the middle and guys, you know, ground out

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Speaker 2: some some centuries. I was, i must say, not particularly

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Speaker 2: enamored with the way that Tim Soudy got out.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, a classic Tim so but put a

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Speaker 1: pross on your captain of the team.

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Speaker 2: Put a price on your wicket, you know, don't just

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Speaker 2: swing wildly across the line. Do what Ahs Betel did

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Speaker 2: given behind the line of the ball and just try

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Speaker 2: and stay out there. I mean much as a lost cause,

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Speaker 2: it is at least put a price.

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Speaker 1: On at least and irritate your opponent as much. Yes possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah on that, Thanks money, catch you say. Jason Pine

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Speaker 1: with us for Sports Talk this evening. He'll be behind

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Speaker 1: the mic from seven to eight taking your calls as well.

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