1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from Newstalks, edb. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:16,067 Speaker 2: Elite, Key we Munt and Biker. Sammy Maxwell currently leads 4 00:00:16,107 --> 00:00:19,507 Speaker 2: the UCI World Cup rankings in the Cross Country Olympic 5 00:00:19,547 --> 00:00:23,787 Speaker 2: Women's Elite following her win in the last event in Andorra. 6 00:00:24,547 --> 00:00:31,427 Speaker 3: It's been Maxwell her very very best. Samarah Maxwell text 7 00:00:31,707 --> 00:00:34,707 Speaker 3: for win in Para and Sala and Dora. 8 00:00:35,347 --> 00:00:40,267 Speaker 2: What a performance, brilliant performance from Sammy Maxwell who joins us. 9 00:00:40,267 --> 00:00:43,187 Speaker 2: Now it's been a month since that, Sammy. An incredible 10 00:00:43,267 --> 00:00:46,547 Speaker 2: victory really in that event in Andorra, given the fact 11 00:00:46,587 --> 00:00:50,387 Speaker 2: that you had two crashes during that race and a puncture, 12 00:00:50,867 --> 00:00:53,587 Speaker 2: so getting up to win. Where does that result rank 13 00:00:54,067 --> 00:00:57,707 Speaker 2: among your race victories given the circumstances it came in. 14 00:00:58,547 --> 00:01:01,827 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was on another recent interview and I was saying, 15 00:01:01,987 --> 00:01:05,027 Speaker 4: that's probably one of the proudest races I've done, not 16 00:01:05,187 --> 00:01:10,147 Speaker 4: because necessaria the result or you know, the glory. I 17 00:01:10,147 --> 00:01:12,227 Speaker 4: guess that everyone has kind of made it out to be, 18 00:01:12,387 --> 00:01:15,227 Speaker 4: but because of well, two reasons really. The first one 19 00:01:15,307 --> 00:01:16,907 Speaker 4: was when I won in Brazil at the start of 20 00:01:16,907 --> 00:01:19,587 Speaker 4: the season, I said I want to be sustainable, like 21 00:01:19,707 --> 00:01:22,547 Speaker 4: that's my goal. I want to be winning at the 22 00:01:22,667 --> 00:01:25,787 Speaker 4: end of the season, so to sort of win in 23 00:01:26,787 --> 00:01:30,387 Speaker 4: April and then again and sip August. 24 00:01:30,027 --> 00:01:32,267 Speaker 5: Kind of around. Then it's kind of really. 25 00:01:32,027 --> 00:01:34,467 Speaker 4: Important for me just to prove to myself and to 26 00:01:34,547 --> 00:01:37,787 Speaker 4: others that I'm doing it in a way that's really 27 00:01:37,787 --> 00:01:41,427 Speaker 4: sustainable my body can keep performing. So yeah, that was 28 00:01:41,467 --> 00:01:43,867 Speaker 4: really important for me. And then the second reason was 29 00:01:43,907 --> 00:01:45,987 Speaker 4: just because it was such a shit show out there, 30 00:01:47,547 --> 00:01:49,587 Speaker 4: and I honestly had a moment where I was like, 31 00:01:49,747 --> 00:01:52,187 Speaker 4: I could I could pack a wally right now, like 32 00:01:53,067 --> 00:01:56,227 Speaker 4: I could throw my toys out of the cot or 33 00:01:56,347 --> 00:02:00,507 Speaker 4: just kind of keep pushing, and I just the throwing 34 00:02:00,547 --> 00:02:03,307 Speaker 4: attention just didn't even like occur to me, and I 35 00:02:03,347 --> 00:02:05,427 Speaker 4: was like, well, it's that's not going to help me 36 00:02:05,427 --> 00:02:08,427 Speaker 4: get to the finish line. Like I can either race 37 00:02:08,547 --> 00:02:11,387 Speaker 4: and keep crashing but enjoy it, or I can race 38 00:02:11,547 --> 00:02:13,467 Speaker 4: and not enjoy it and then just get to the 39 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:14,427 Speaker 4: finish line sad. 40 00:02:14,467 --> 00:02:15,867 Speaker 5: I was like, well, what I want to do that? 41 00:02:16,347 --> 00:02:18,507 Speaker 5: So yeah, I was pretty happy. 42 00:02:18,267 --> 00:02:21,427 Speaker 4: With the mentality of myself and my composure. I've come 43 00:02:21,467 --> 00:02:24,147 Speaker 4: a long way from under twenty threes, and so yeah, 44 00:02:24,187 --> 00:02:25,027 Speaker 4: that was cool to see. 45 00:02:25,107 --> 00:02:27,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, you certainly have. I mean, how much has the 46 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:31,147 Speaker 2: way you deal with setbacks changed in the last couple 47 00:02:31,147 --> 00:02:32,187 Speaker 2: of years. 48 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:33,747 Speaker 5: Yeah, so much. 49 00:02:33,867 --> 00:02:36,427 Speaker 4: I think a lot of as to do with just 50 00:02:36,507 --> 00:02:38,267 Speaker 4: general confidence and my ability. 51 00:02:40,747 --> 00:02:41,947 Speaker 5: I've read a few like. 52 00:02:41,987 --> 00:02:45,347 Speaker 4: Books on like mental resilience and stuff like that, and 53 00:02:45,347 --> 00:02:47,107 Speaker 4: it's like a really cool saying that always has stuck 54 00:02:47,107 --> 00:02:49,587 Speaker 4: with me, And it's like, confidence doesn't come from standing 55 00:02:49,627 --> 00:02:53,107 Speaker 4: in the mirror telling yourself positive affirmations. Confidence comes from 56 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:57,347 Speaker 4: getting out there and actually having irresputable evidence. 57 00:02:56,867 --> 00:02:58,547 Speaker 5: That you can do something right. 58 00:02:58,587 --> 00:03:01,467 Speaker 4: So it's kind of it's not fair to expect under 59 00:03:01,547 --> 00:03:04,947 Speaker 4: nineteen and junior writers from New Zealand to go and 60 00:03:05,147 --> 00:03:08,467 Speaker 4: have genuine confidence themselves because they haven't been able to 61 00:03:08,587 --> 00:03:11,307 Speaker 4: race over in Europe. So I think for me, it 62 00:03:11,347 --> 00:03:13,667 Speaker 4: took a while to learn that I'm I'm going to 63 00:03:13,707 --> 00:03:15,867 Speaker 4: be a bit chaotic and it's going to take a 64 00:03:15,907 --> 00:03:18,187 Speaker 4: few years for me to gain genuine confidence. 65 00:03:18,227 --> 00:03:21,347 Speaker 5: But I kind of just took it slowly and just 66 00:03:21,387 --> 00:03:21,987 Speaker 5: accepted that. 67 00:03:22,107 --> 00:03:24,787 Speaker 4: And now I'm been racing overseas for a few years, 68 00:03:24,987 --> 00:03:27,747 Speaker 4: I can have that genuine confidence. But but yeah, I 69 00:03:27,747 --> 00:03:29,827 Speaker 4: think it's been super important just to helping me keep 70 00:03:29,907 --> 00:03:32,507 Speaker 4: composed I mean last year, my first Elite race, I 71 00:03:32,587 --> 00:03:34,947 Speaker 4: literally crashed in the first corner and took out my teammate. 72 00:03:36,827 --> 00:03:40,267 Speaker 5: So we've cover we raceince then. 73 00:03:40,227 --> 00:03:44,787 Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's all all on the up from that. You're leading, 74 00:03:45,147 --> 00:03:48,227 Speaker 2: you're leading the series by four hundred and forty five points, 75 00:03:48,267 --> 00:03:50,027 Speaker 2: but that's all relative of course to how many points 76 00:03:50,067 --> 00:03:53,467 Speaker 2: are available in each event. So exactly it feels like 77 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:56,107 Speaker 2: it's four hundred and forty five points a comfortable lead 78 00:03:56,267 --> 00:03:56,467 Speaker 2: or not. 79 00:03:57,907 --> 00:04:01,387 Speaker 4: You're not really oh not really no, because each round 80 00:04:02,587 --> 00:04:04,827 Speaker 4: you can win three hundred and thirty points. 81 00:04:04,587 --> 00:04:07,627 Speaker 5: Right, So all it takes. 82 00:04:08,067 --> 00:04:11,187 Speaker 4: And it's mountain biking, right, Like you have Matthew Vanderpelt, 83 00:04:11,227 --> 00:04:12,867 Speaker 4: one of the best cyclists in the world, coming to 84 00:04:12,907 --> 00:04:16,027 Speaker 4: a mountain bike race and not finishing. So if I 85 00:04:16,147 --> 00:04:19,187 Speaker 4: go to a weekend and I get and I don't finish, 86 00:04:19,187 --> 00:04:21,587 Speaker 4: I get a mechanical or I crash out, there's three 87 00:04:21,707 --> 00:04:22,907 Speaker 4: hundred and thirty points. 88 00:04:22,627 --> 00:04:23,867 Speaker 5: That I lose to the winner, do you know what 89 00:04:23,907 --> 00:04:24,227 Speaker 5: I mean? 90 00:04:24,307 --> 00:04:30,187 Speaker 4: So it's definitely not comfortable by any means. But yeah, 91 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:33,147 Speaker 4: it's still a long season. We're still halfway through. I 92 00:04:33,187 --> 00:04:35,307 Speaker 4: was just realized we've done six races and we have 93 00:04:35,427 --> 00:04:38,387 Speaker 4: five left, so it's a long season. 94 00:04:38,427 --> 00:04:39,987 Speaker 5: So there's a long way to go still. 95 00:04:39,987 --> 00:04:42,427 Speaker 2: And so you're currently coming towards the end. I think 96 00:04:42,467 --> 00:04:46,747 Speaker 2: of a six week break between events and understand you've 97 00:04:46,747 --> 00:04:49,907 Speaker 2: spent time in an altitude camp in the Pyrenees. So 98 00:04:50,347 --> 00:04:52,787 Speaker 2: what did that consist of and how beneficial has it been. 99 00:04:54,027 --> 00:04:56,187 Speaker 5: Well, I'm still up at altitude. So we came up 100 00:04:56,307 --> 00:04:58,947 Speaker 5: last week and it's been really tough. 101 00:04:59,027 --> 00:05:02,827 Speaker 4: Actually, so it's my first altitude camp and anyone that's 102 00:05:02,827 --> 00:05:06,027 Speaker 4: done altitude knows the biggest, biggest concern and threat is 103 00:05:06,427 --> 00:05:10,067 Speaker 4: to cook yourself basically, and the way I like to 104 00:05:10,107 --> 00:05:12,027 Speaker 4: train is very, very aggressive. 105 00:05:12,107 --> 00:05:15,187 Speaker 5: I like to push my body, and it's been. 106 00:05:15,027 --> 00:05:17,627 Speaker 4: Something I can my body could cope with when I 107 00:05:17,667 --> 00:05:22,267 Speaker 4: was at low altitude, when recovery was better, but coming 108 00:05:22,347 --> 00:05:24,227 Speaker 4: up to high altitude after a week. 109 00:05:24,347 --> 00:05:26,067 Speaker 5: We we're really lucky the team. 110 00:05:26,107 --> 00:05:31,067 Speaker 4: We have medical data I guess supplied and monitoring us 111 00:05:31,107 --> 00:05:32,387 Speaker 4: every night while we sleep. 112 00:05:32,827 --> 00:05:36,827 Speaker 5: We have like hydration tests and oxygen saturation tests. 113 00:05:36,427 --> 00:05:39,587 Speaker 4: And cardiac measures and every day to measure our recovery. 114 00:05:39,627 --> 00:05:42,387 Speaker 4: And by the end of the first week they go, Sammy, 115 00:05:42,387 --> 00:05:46,987 Speaker 4: you've like unadapted from altitude. Put You've put so much 116 00:05:47,027 --> 00:05:50,707 Speaker 4: stress on your body that your oxygen saturation is actually 117 00:05:50,747 --> 00:05:53,147 Speaker 4: like lower than when you arrived, and I was like, 118 00:05:53,707 --> 00:05:56,667 Speaker 4: oh wos, So I had to take a day off 119 00:05:56,907 --> 00:06:00,787 Speaker 4: and my body's starting to come right again. So it's 120 00:06:00,867 --> 00:06:03,387 Speaker 4: been pretty tough, but I think it's it's a good 121 00:06:04,147 --> 00:06:06,627 Speaker 4: It'll be good because I have some good support me 122 00:06:07,747 --> 00:06:09,907 Speaker 4: and some good people that know what they're doing. So 123 00:06:09,947 --> 00:06:12,187 Speaker 4: I think we've still got two weeks up here, so 124 00:06:12,267 --> 00:06:15,147 Speaker 4: I should should hopefully reap some rewards from that. 125 00:06:16,307 --> 00:06:18,587 Speaker 2: So ideally, what happens at the end of it? What 126 00:06:18,787 --> 00:06:20,627 Speaker 2: are the rewards of doing it? 127 00:06:22,187 --> 00:06:26,387 Speaker 4: Essentially, basically you get more hemoglobin in your blood and 128 00:06:26,427 --> 00:06:30,387 Speaker 4: then you go back down altitude and the air just 129 00:06:30,427 --> 00:06:33,427 Speaker 4: feels like you're breathing soup, like it's just so much 130 00:06:33,427 --> 00:06:36,467 Speaker 4: oxygen and your body is just yeah, love and life 131 00:06:36,547 --> 00:06:37,027 Speaker 4: a lot. 132 00:06:36,867 --> 00:06:38,827 Speaker 2: More love it. So you said five more events? Is 133 00:06:38,827 --> 00:06:41,107 Speaker 2: that four more World Cups Cup events and the World 134 00:06:41,227 --> 00:06:43,027 Speaker 2: Champs or is the World Champs separate again? 135 00:06:43,667 --> 00:06:43,867 Speaker 4: Yeah? 136 00:06:43,987 --> 00:06:45,987 Speaker 5: Mate, you've done your research. I'm I'm pressed. 137 00:06:46,787 --> 00:06:48,707 Speaker 2: So the World Champs is part of the sorry, the 138 00:06:48,707 --> 00:06:50,827 Speaker 2: World Champs is part of the whole thing? Or is 139 00:06:50,867 --> 00:06:52,787 Speaker 2: that separate again? To win it. 140 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:56,187 Speaker 4: It's just that, Yeah, that's just the way the athletes think. Really, 141 00:06:56,227 --> 00:06:58,667 Speaker 4: you have your World Cup and then you've got your 142 00:06:58,707 --> 00:07:01,147 Speaker 4: one World Champs, so you've got five races. 143 00:07:00,747 --> 00:07:03,227 Speaker 2: Brilliant, so you could win the series after four more 144 00:07:03,267 --> 00:07:05,907 Speaker 2: World Cup events all going well, you could you could 145 00:07:05,947 --> 00:07:08,347 Speaker 2: win this man, that would be so cool. And I 146 00:07:08,427 --> 00:07:10,627 Speaker 2: understand your parents are coming to watch you compete now. 147 00:07:10,667 --> 00:07:12,947 Speaker 2: Is this going to be the first time they've seen 148 00:07:12,987 --> 00:07:14,627 Speaker 2: you compete outside of New Zealand? 149 00:07:15,787 --> 00:07:17,067 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pretty much. 150 00:07:17,147 --> 00:07:20,307 Speaker 4: I think even these days, we were lucky this year 151 00:07:20,387 --> 00:07:22,507 Speaker 4: Nationals wasn't all to do, so they came and watched. 152 00:07:22,507 --> 00:07:26,307 Speaker 4: But normally Nationals and Oshi's are in christ Church or 153 00:07:26,347 --> 00:07:29,107 Speaker 4: Queenstown or whatever, and they don't even they can't even 154 00:07:29,147 --> 00:07:31,227 Speaker 4: like come watch me race for that just with work 155 00:07:31,307 --> 00:07:33,427 Speaker 4: and travel and commitment. And I'm a big girl now 156 00:07:33,467 --> 00:07:35,347 Speaker 4: so I don't need them to help carry my bags 157 00:07:35,347 --> 00:07:39,707 Speaker 4: for the airport. So yeah, they have probably seen me 158 00:07:39,827 --> 00:07:44,787 Speaker 4: race honestly twice every two years, so it's kind of 159 00:07:44,827 --> 00:07:47,067 Speaker 4: funny and cool to be able to have them come 160 00:07:47,107 --> 00:07:50,107 Speaker 4: watch me race. But I'm just mostly excited to be 161 00:07:50,147 --> 00:07:54,907 Speaker 4: able to share Marzine, my European base with them, take 162 00:07:54,947 --> 00:07:57,187 Speaker 4: them up to the lake and show them around the town, 163 00:07:57,307 --> 00:07:59,867 Speaker 4: and just like, what my life is like over here? 164 00:08:00,027 --> 00:08:00,747 Speaker 5: Really excited? 165 00:08:00,987 --> 00:08:03,387 Speaker 2: What is your life like over there outside of all 166 00:08:03,427 --> 00:08:05,747 Speaker 2: of the training and competing that you do. 167 00:08:07,227 --> 00:08:08,627 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not It's funny. 168 00:08:08,627 --> 00:08:11,307 Speaker 4: I always thought been an athlete be like so chill, 169 00:08:11,387 --> 00:08:12,787 Speaker 4: what you ride your bike for a few hours a 170 00:08:12,867 --> 00:08:15,427 Speaker 4: day and then what you just get a message. But 171 00:08:15,587 --> 00:08:18,787 Speaker 4: now that I'm here, it's so heictic. Like I guess, 172 00:08:19,387 --> 00:08:22,187 Speaker 4: I like to put a lot on my plate with 173 00:08:22,507 --> 00:08:25,307 Speaker 4: studying as well. I do like French courses online at 174 00:08:25,307 --> 00:08:30,227 Speaker 4: the moment. But yeah, a lot of time goes into training, recovery, 175 00:08:30,467 --> 00:08:35,187 Speaker 4: preparing for your training, just managing like levels, doing lots 176 00:08:35,227 --> 00:08:38,947 Speaker 4: of like monitoring. I do a lot of like journaling 177 00:08:39,067 --> 00:08:43,387 Speaker 4: and stuff which helps with my head. But yeah, I'm 178 00:08:43,427 --> 00:08:49,467 Speaker 4: pretty pretty pretty happy in the sense that I'm getting 179 00:08:49,467 --> 00:08:50,867 Speaker 4: out of stage now where I can just go out 180 00:08:50,867 --> 00:08:52,947 Speaker 4: for like four or five hours and I just design 181 00:08:53,147 --> 00:08:55,787 Speaker 4: like a really nice slope through the French Alps or 182 00:08:55,787 --> 00:08:58,867 Speaker 4: the Pyrenees, and I'm just so happy. You know. You'd 183 00:08:58,867 --> 00:09:01,467 Speaker 4: come back at like three o'clock in the afternoon and. 184 00:09:01,387 --> 00:09:05,027 Speaker 5: Have some lunch and then have some more food. 185 00:09:05,627 --> 00:09:07,827 Speaker 4: I actually think we probably spend half our day eating 186 00:09:07,867 --> 00:09:08,787 Speaker 4: athletes honestly. 187 00:09:08,987 --> 00:09:13,307 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's hard, right, It's hard, man, I mean 188 00:09:13,907 --> 00:09:17,787 Speaker 2: you know physically mentally, this is challenging. It ain't just 189 00:09:17,787 --> 00:09:20,667 Speaker 2: to ride through the through the mountains and a nice 190 00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:21,427 Speaker 2: three o'clock last. 191 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:25,907 Speaker 6: It's hard, right, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I guess the I 192 00:09:25,947 --> 00:09:30,067 Speaker 6: think as an athlete, for us, the hardest thing is like, well, 193 00:09:30,107 --> 00:09:32,467 Speaker 6: for me anyway, the thing I struggle most with is 194 00:09:32,507 --> 00:09:34,387 Speaker 6: like the uncertainty. 195 00:09:33,627 --> 00:09:35,747 Speaker 5: Of how I'm going to perform every day. 196 00:09:37,547 --> 00:09:39,467 Speaker 4: Imagine like every day you go to work and you 197 00:09:39,547 --> 00:09:45,627 Speaker 4: have like someone saying you have to do forty papers today, 198 00:09:45,787 --> 00:09:48,107 Speaker 4: or like you have and like every day we are 199 00:09:48,147 --> 00:09:52,547 Speaker 4: like measuring ourselves our progress. Every day we have a 200 00:09:52,627 --> 00:09:55,107 Speaker 4: standard we have to reach, and then we have a 201 00:09:55,147 --> 00:09:57,747 Speaker 4: standard that we have expected ourselves that we have to reach. 202 00:09:59,027 --> 00:10:01,547 Speaker 5: So like, especially on days where you have intervals, it's 203 00:10:02,187 --> 00:10:03,467 Speaker 5: like a race day every day. 204 00:10:04,507 --> 00:10:06,067 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's just the biggest thing is 205 00:10:06,107 --> 00:10:08,467 Speaker 4: like that, that uncertainty of that will you achieve your 206 00:10:08,467 --> 00:10:13,707 Speaker 4: goal today? It's quite tiring in some aspects. But the 207 00:10:13,747 --> 00:10:15,427 Speaker 4: more I do it, Yeah, the more I do it, 208 00:10:15,467 --> 00:10:17,907 Speaker 4: the more I'm learning. That there is variability and it 209 00:10:18,307 --> 00:10:21,827 Speaker 4: sometimes well there's always a reason why you can't hit 210 00:10:21,867 --> 00:10:24,027 Speaker 4: your numbers or why you can't execute a training, and 211 00:10:24,107 --> 00:10:25,947 Speaker 4: that just means you have to rest a bit more. 212 00:10:26,027 --> 00:10:27,667 Speaker 5: And yeah, maybe. 213 00:10:27,387 --> 00:10:29,467 Speaker 4: You would have liked to been able to do a 214 00:10:29,467 --> 00:10:33,067 Speaker 4: good session, but there is a way to fix it, right, 215 00:10:33,107 --> 00:10:36,067 Speaker 4: You've just got to not be silly and put your 216 00:10:36,107 --> 00:10:37,267 Speaker 4: head in the sand and keep pushing. 217 00:10:37,347 --> 00:10:38,787 Speaker 5: You've got to listen to your body and take a 218 00:10:38,787 --> 00:10:39,467 Speaker 5: bit of a break. 219 00:10:39,507 --> 00:10:42,307 Speaker 2: But yeah, so mean, you've been really open about your 220 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:45,387 Speaker 2: eating disorder and its effect on your performances, and you 221 00:10:45,427 --> 00:10:48,307 Speaker 2: talked about sustainability at the start of our chat, and 222 00:10:48,587 --> 00:10:50,747 Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about wanting to perform over a 223 00:10:50,787 --> 00:10:54,347 Speaker 2: sustained period and being able to do that. Can you 224 00:10:54,347 --> 00:10:56,707 Speaker 2: tell us about the support you've received and the strategies 225 00:10:56,707 --> 00:10:58,307 Speaker 2: you've employed to do that. 226 00:10:59,627 --> 00:11:02,187 Speaker 4: Yeah. Sure, I work with the NZET eating Disorder CONNICS. 227 00:11:02,187 --> 00:11:05,707 Speaker 4: So there's doctor Roge, and then I have a nutritionist, 228 00:11:05,747 --> 00:11:11,027 Speaker 4: a new nutralist actually at the moment, and a psychologist Hink, 229 00:11:11,267 --> 00:11:14,627 Speaker 4: and I work with Hink probably every two weeks. 230 00:11:15,107 --> 00:11:17,267 Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, every two weeks at the moment. 231 00:11:17,387 --> 00:11:20,987 Speaker 4: Just kind of chickens it's really hard to do full 232 00:11:21,827 --> 00:11:25,627 Speaker 4: anorexia therapy while I'm overseas, but we have been employing 233 00:11:25,707 --> 00:11:30,107 Speaker 4: some basic like I said, some basic journaling, doing lots 234 00:11:30,107 --> 00:11:32,907 Speaker 4: of like mindfulness and stuff has been really helpful with 235 00:11:33,027 --> 00:11:37,307 Speaker 4: my emotions. But yeah, a big important part of me 236 00:11:37,467 --> 00:11:40,147 Speaker 4: is just monitoring my health at the moment, Like you say, 237 00:11:40,187 --> 00:11:41,787 Speaker 4: sustainability is super important. 238 00:11:42,667 --> 00:11:44,907 Speaker 5: And actually coming up here to altitude, it's been quite 239 00:11:44,987 --> 00:11:48,387 Speaker 5: interesting and challenging kind of, I. 240 00:11:48,347 --> 00:11:51,627 Speaker 4: Guess some of those aspects, like you have to take 241 00:11:51,667 --> 00:11:53,667 Speaker 4: it a bit easier on those first few days because 242 00:11:53,667 --> 00:11:56,507 Speaker 4: your body's working harder, and that's shown kind of how 243 00:11:56,547 --> 00:11:58,067 Speaker 4: my my eating disorder. 244 00:11:57,747 --> 00:12:00,747 Speaker 5: Would use sports as a way to earn food or 245 00:12:00,747 --> 00:12:01,267 Speaker 5: something like that. 246 00:12:01,307 --> 00:12:04,507 Speaker 4: So coming up here has been super interesting and showing 247 00:12:04,547 --> 00:12:09,307 Speaker 4: different ways which my my eating disorder presents itself. But yeah, 248 00:12:09,707 --> 00:12:13,347 Speaker 4: I've been seeking therapy for two years now and I 249 00:12:13,427 --> 00:12:15,707 Speaker 4: think it's the best choice I've made. I honestly don't 250 00:12:15,747 --> 00:12:18,827 Speaker 4: think I would be where I was right now if 251 00:12:18,867 --> 00:12:22,987 Speaker 4: I hadn't started therapy, And for sure, it's a long process, 252 00:12:22,987 --> 00:12:25,747 Speaker 4: but I'm I know it's the right thing to do, 253 00:12:25,747 --> 00:12:26,387 Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? 254 00:12:27,467 --> 00:12:31,267 Speaker 2: And does success on the bike necessarily a quite to 255 00:12:31,347 --> 00:12:33,387 Speaker 2: success off the bike in that regard. 256 00:12:34,627 --> 00:12:36,387 Speaker 5: No, no way, not at all. 257 00:12:36,467 --> 00:12:42,507 Speaker 4: No, I've found the last yeah around and Dora and 258 00:12:42,547 --> 00:12:44,787 Speaker 4: the last few weeks have actually been really tough, like 259 00:12:44,867 --> 00:12:47,987 Speaker 4: mentally with my eating disorder, and I think it's quite 260 00:12:47,987 --> 00:12:50,587 Speaker 4: interesting to come to terms with the fact that on 261 00:12:50,627 --> 00:12:53,307 Speaker 4: the start line and after the races, I can be 262 00:12:53,427 --> 00:12:57,667 Speaker 4: like super positive, super happy, and then an hour later 263 00:12:57,747 --> 00:12:59,987 Speaker 4: I'm like in my bedroom freaking out because I have 264 00:13:00,227 --> 00:13:02,947 Speaker 4: like some sort of food in front of it. That's scary. 265 00:13:03,147 --> 00:13:06,187 Speaker 4: And it's been quite hard like functioning quite a lot 266 00:13:06,187 --> 00:13:08,547 Speaker 4: of quartersole and stuff like that, right, food sething I 267 00:13:08,587 --> 00:13:11,947 Speaker 4: can't avoid. And I think a lot of that do 268 00:13:12,067 --> 00:13:14,867 Speaker 4: with just the last few years taking my kid out 269 00:13:14,907 --> 00:13:16,867 Speaker 4: of the sand and accept that there is a problem 270 00:13:16,907 --> 00:13:19,827 Speaker 4: and that comes with having to do some work to 271 00:13:19,867 --> 00:13:22,067 Speaker 4: fix the problem. 272 00:13:22,307 --> 00:13:24,427 Speaker 5: So there's it's been quite challenging. 273 00:13:24,547 --> 00:13:27,187 Speaker 4: But yeah, just because I'm successful on the bike doesn't 274 00:13:27,187 --> 00:13:29,827 Speaker 4: always I mean I'm successful off. 275 00:13:29,707 --> 00:13:32,667 Speaker 5: The bike, but the other way around definitely correlates. 276 00:13:32,707 --> 00:13:35,547 Speaker 4: So if I'm successful off the bike, it's when I'm 277 00:13:35,667 --> 00:13:37,387 Speaker 4: most successful on the bike, for sure. 278 00:13:37,907 --> 00:13:41,827 Speaker 2: Incredible insight just to finish Olympic debut last year in Paris. 279 00:13:41,867 --> 00:13:44,347 Speaker 2: Of course, I know this is a long term but 280 00:13:44,387 --> 00:13:46,387 Speaker 2: do you have your eyes on LA twenty twenty eight 281 00:13:46,467 --> 00:13:46,667 Speaker 2: or no? 282 00:13:46,947 --> 00:13:52,227 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, man, yeah, every the cycling world basically it's 283 00:13:52,267 --> 00:13:54,467 Speaker 4: quite interesting. It doesn't seem like it from the outside, 284 00:13:54,507 --> 00:13:57,107 Speaker 4: I guess, but the cycling world revolves around four year 285 00:13:57,107 --> 00:14:00,347 Speaker 4: Olympic cycles, so you know, you'll have lots of people 286 00:14:00,427 --> 00:14:03,907 Speaker 4: signing teams until the next Olympic cycle, or sponsors will 287 00:14:03,947 --> 00:14:05,787 Speaker 4: signed until the next Olympic cycle. 288 00:14:06,627 --> 00:14:09,147 Speaker 5: So the reason we're up here at altitude this year 289 00:14:09,667 --> 00:14:12,867 Speaker 5: is because we're doing, like I was saying, all the 290 00:14:12,947 --> 00:14:15,467 Speaker 5: medical tests so we can really accurately see how our 291 00:14:15,467 --> 00:14:18,947 Speaker 5: body adapts to altitude, so we know how to employ 292 00:14:18,987 --> 00:14:21,387 Speaker 5: it when it comes to twenty twenty eight. We give 293 00:14:21,427 --> 00:14:22,747 Speaker 5: ourselves all the data this. 294 00:14:22,787 --> 00:14:24,787 Speaker 4: Year, we try with it next year, and then we 295 00:14:24,867 --> 00:14:27,987 Speaker 4: nail it in twenty twenty eight. And there's lots of 296 00:14:28,027 --> 00:14:30,827 Speaker 4: things planned for this year and next year that are 297 00:14:30,867 --> 00:14:34,587 Speaker 4: all dedicated to being the best, strongest Sammy when it 298 00:14:34,627 --> 00:14:35,747 Speaker 4: comes to twenty twenty eight. 299 00:14:35,827 --> 00:14:36,267 Speaker 5: For sure. 300 00:14:36,467 --> 00:14:37,507 Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing. 301 00:14:37,587 --> 00:14:40,067 Speaker 2: Well, it's been a great twenty twenty five for you, 302 00:14:40,227 --> 00:14:42,867 Speaker 2: so far more to come, I'm sure. And then onwards 303 00:14:43,227 --> 00:14:44,907 Speaker 2: throughout the rest of the cycle. Sammy, It's been such 304 00:14:44,907 --> 00:14:46,707 Speaker 2: a delight to chat. Yeah, thanks for being so generous 305 00:14:46,747 --> 00:14:49,587 Speaker 2: with your time. I really appreciate you taking the taking. 306 00:14:49,347 --> 00:14:51,267 Speaker 5: The callis thanks mate. 307 00:14:51,107 --> 00:14:55,187 Speaker 2: Thank you, Sammy. Sammy Maxwell there pretty special human being, 308 00:14:55,627 --> 00:14:58,507 Speaker 2: elite key we mountain biker. She has the lead currently 309 00:14:58,507 --> 00:15:00,627 Speaker 2: in the UCI World Cup rankings in the cross Country 310 00:15:00,667 --> 00:15:05,747 Speaker 2: Olympic Women's Elite and always so authentic, always so open, 311 00:15:05,747 --> 00:15:08,707 Speaker 2: Always such a pleasure to chat to Sammy Maxwell. 312 00:15:09,227 --> 00:15:12,427 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 313 00:15:12,547 --> 00:15:15,827 Speaker 1: to news talks at b Weekends from midday, or follow 314 00:15:15,867 --> 00:15:17,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.