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Speaker 1: Now people want a band to stop people packing rock

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Speaker 1: pools clean of sea life around Auckland. You might have

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Speaker 1: seen this story. One guy at Army Bay reckons that

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Speaker 1: there are busloads of people turning up with buckets and

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Speaker 1: taking everything from the rock pools, not just your crabs

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Speaker 1: and your crawlies, but your starfish and your weeds, literally everything.

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Speaker 1: Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is onto it. He's asked for

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Speaker 1: some urgents advice, joining us as Mark Lenton. He's an

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Speaker 1: organizer of the Protect Funger Put Our rock Pools community

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Speaker 1: group and he's with me now. Mark. Good afternoon, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: how are you yeah? Really good? Thanks? Tell us What

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Speaker 1: is a situation like where you are? Mark?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty rock bottom when it comes to marine life.

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Speaker 2: It's been going on for a couple of years now, Ryan.

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Speaker 2: When I first started noticing people turning up with buckets

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Speaker 2: and tools back in October twenty four, I counted over

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Speaker 2: two hundred people on the rocks using chisels and piano

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Speaker 2: wire to remove all species and types of sea life

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Speaker 2: to fill their buckets.

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Speaker 1: Right, and what's left.

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Speaker 2: Seawater mainly and whatever came in with the last tide.

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Speaker 2: Mate as a as a local is a long term

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Speaker 2: local of this beautiful place. It's just heartbreaking to me

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Speaker 2: and people that have spent their entire lives here surrounded

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Speaker 2: by natural beauty, oceans and abundant marine life, to see

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Speaker 2: it stripped as it has been and so rapidly. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just heartbreaking.

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Speaker 1: Where's that did you say? Piano wy? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: People run piano wire around the edges of the rock

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Speaker 2: pools to remove seaweed and see an enemy. Chisels remove

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Speaker 2: the limpets and the kitans, and then hammers just smash

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Speaker 2: any oysters or muscles that are remaining.

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Speaker 1: What do you think they are eating all of this stuff?

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Speaker 1: What are they doing with it?

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Speaker 2: It's typically put into a soup pot. What doesn't go

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Speaker 2: into the pot can get crushed and then converted into

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Speaker 2: fish stock or fish paste. There it's all considered edible

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Speaker 2: and there's a use for all of it, all of it,

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Speaker 2: whether it's human or pet.

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Speaker 1: Now, the minister says, looking into this, taking advice, etc.

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Speaker 1: Do you think because to me, I'm like, well, if

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Speaker 1: these poles are empty, and I was up north over

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Speaker 1: the summer break and saw all of this kind of

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Speaker 1: stuff going on myself, and you know, you go look

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Speaker 1: in the poles and there doesn't all like that, there's much

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Speaker 1: in there. It looks a little bit sad, a little

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Speaker 1: bit depressing. Do you think we just ban it?

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Speaker 2: A few things need to happen. And look, you're right

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Speaker 2: an Army Bay, it's been happening for a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: In other parts of Auckland it's been going on for

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Speaker 2: twenty or thirty years. There are a number of steps

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Speaker 2: that are required. So one, we need to stop the rot.

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Speaker 2: So we need Shane Jones to approve ninety nine a

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Speaker 2: Headies Section one eighty six eighty two year ban that

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Speaker 2: would put an immediate stop or a reduction to the

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Speaker 2: pillaging over that period of time that the ban is

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Speaker 2: in place. We then need targeted education, particularly across migrant

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Speaker 2: communities who probably don't have the same understanding or awareness

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Speaker 2: of marine conservation that we do growing up in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: It's just inherent in our makeup. So we need to

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Speaker 2: stop the lot now. But then longer term we need

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Speaker 2: the education and we need to adjust mindsets. A current

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Speaker 2: mindset which is currently take it all, it needs to

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Speaker 2: convert back to look at the don't take which has

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Speaker 2: always just been an unwritten law or unwritten rule in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand.

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Speaker 1: Here here, Mark, I'm completely on board with the band,

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Speaker 1: Mark Lenton, Protect Funger to our rock Ports with us

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