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Speaker 2: Hello there you, good afternoon, Welcome in to the Sunday

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks eDV. October thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday to Amelia Kur. Straight through. Amelia Kerr has

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Speaker 2: been trying to find that line.

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Speaker 3: And that length got the web and it brings up

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Speaker 3: the one hundred stalishly played by Amelia Kerr.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty good birthday for Meli Kerr, although I guess

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Speaker 2: all that and theory happened the day before given the

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Speaker 2: out and the White Fern's eight wicked win over Sri

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Speaker 2: Lanka at the T twenty Cricket World Cup. I'm Jason

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Speaker 2: Pine Shoe Produce to Annie McDonnell. We are here until

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Speaker 2: three talking sport. The global implementation of the twenty minute

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Speaker 2: red card in rugby is a step closer to reality.

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Speaker 2: World Rugby confirmed this week, the rule, which of course

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Speaker 2: allows teams to replace a player who's been sent off

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Speaker 2: after twenty minutes, has been put forward for use globally.

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty polarizing. The twenty minute red card's been

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Speaker 2: in use down here for a wee while now, of course,

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Speaker 2: but there's always been resistance in the Northern Hemisphere and

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Speaker 2: in South Africa as well, and that's continued this week.

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Speaker 2: Top referee Nigel Owens with us on the shortly and

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on this rule absolutely encouraged as well other

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Speaker 2: matters around today. Teen New Zealand have made a terrific

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Speaker 2: start to the defense of the America's Cup in Barcelona,

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Speaker 2: earning a two zero lead in the first to seven

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Speaker 2: series against Ineosprtannia. We'll get you to Barcelona to wrap

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Speaker 2: the first day's racing. South Canterbury's historic winning run and

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Speaker 2: rugby's Heartland Championship has finally ended. They haven't lost a

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Speaker 2: game since twenty nineteen thirty nine straight wins. Well that

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Speaker 2: was until yesterday when MITD Canterbury went down the road

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Speaker 2: semi finals. Mid Canabury coach Matt winsor going to relive

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Speaker 2: that with us after two o'clock. The A League men's

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Speaker 2: football season just a week away. Auckland FC coach Steve

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Speaker 2: Coricker and Wellington Fedix coach John Caloertaliano both on the

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Speaker 2: in his regular slot around one forty five Live Sport.

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Speaker 2: The Black Ferns looking to end their year on a

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Speaker 2: high after three straight defeats. They're underway against France. In fact,

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Speaker 2: midway through the first half in their final WXV one

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Speaker 2: match in Vancouver. A good start for New Zealand and.

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Speaker 4: Olson Baker's going to tap and go from ten away

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Speaker 4: on a right hand side brings in Leah mccartarly two

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Speaker 4: right hand bagha Letty Ainga gets it down, runshing the

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Speaker 2: Tries awarded and then this Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was two tries one to which of

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Speaker 2: the wingers are Asha Lettiga and Caitlin Carlol But France

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Speaker 2: the news. However, New Zealand have scored a third try,

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Speaker 2: so with twenty three minutes gone, New Zealand fifteen, France seven.

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Speaker 5: The yellow card is going to be upgraded to a

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Speaker 2: The high degree of danger no clear and obvious mitigation Okay.

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Speaker 4: Wayne Barnes shows a red card to the touchline. Sam

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Speaker 4: Caine head in his hands, high tackle.

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Speaker 2: The your blake skipper set off. Yeah. Controversial proposal which

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Speaker 2: would allow teams to replace a red carded player after

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes, has moved a step closer to global implementation.

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Speaker 2: World Rugby confirmed this week. It's one of several new

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Speaker 2: law amendments which have been trialed in some domestic and

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Speaker 2: international competitions, including our own, and it's been put forward

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Speaker 2: for use globally. Nigel Owens is one of the best

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Speaker 2: referees in international rugby history and joins us now to

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Speaker 2: discuss this. Nigel, thanks for your time across New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: What is your overall view first of all, on the

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Speaker 2: proposal to introduce a twenty minute red card to international rugby.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you have to take a step back

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Speaker 6: to SVON. I'm trying to understand why people are calling

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Speaker 6: for this, why it's been in place of the Rugby Championship,

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Speaker 6: and why it's coming into inter trial globally. And the

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Speaker 6: issue is, which is an understandable reason, is a lot

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Speaker 6: of people are getting frustrated with players being sent off

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Speaker 6: the game is both when you have fourteen against fifteen

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Speaker 6: the reason why this has been bought. Now, the concerns

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Speaker 6: and the worry that I have is it's not going

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Speaker 6: to deal with the actual issues. And the actual issues

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Speaker 6: are the player safety. When we are still having a

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Speaker 6: lot of head collisions, We're still having players making up

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Speaker 6: right tackles, shoulder making contact with the head. We're still

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Speaker 6: having really reckless, dangerous playouts in the contact area we

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Speaker 6: player behavior despite the red cards. Now, if you go

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Speaker 6: lot of issues with spear tackling, and then what happened.

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Speaker 6: The referees went hard. It was a red card and

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Speaker 6: we changed player behavior. But that hasn't happened this time,

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Speaker 6: and the issue is now we're still getting red cards,

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Speaker 6: and therefore a lot of people have been calling in

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Speaker 6: spoil the game. Now, the issue that I have is this,

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Speaker 6: a red card in rugby should only be for an

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Speaker 6: act of total thuggery or total recklessness. And what I

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Speaker 6: And then you got charging in shoulder first, head first,

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Speaker 6: it's really dangerous. You don't have any care whatsoever about

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Speaker 6: the player safety who you are charging into. That should

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Speaker 6: be a red card and then you should not be replaced.

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Speaker 6: The issue that I have then, and I think this

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Speaker 6: you have a player and we've seen it, who is

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Speaker 6: unluckily to be sent off it's accidental. The dynamics of

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Speaker 6: that's a bit tough that's a bit harsh, then they

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Speaker 6: shouldn't be a red card. So what I feel they

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Speaker 6: act of thuggery active recklessness where you've got no concern

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Speaker 6: about the player safety and I'm sorry, a red card

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Speaker 6: an issue where it's it's carelessness, it's accidental. You try

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Speaker 6: that shouldn't even be a red card. So what I

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Speaker 6: you're not going to keep everybody happy because you're still

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Speaker 6: going to see these red cards with that, which are harsh,

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Speaker 6: and you're also then going to see a lot of

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Speaker 6: So this is understandable why people are calling for it,

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Speaker 6: but my concern is they're not actually dealing with the

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Speaker 6: fan of the twenty minute red card. I'd rather see

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Speaker 6: them bring it in a red card for total recklessness,

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Speaker 6: total fabruary. If anything is accidentally or unlucky, then it

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Speaker 6: then we will look after the player safety. And people

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Speaker 2: That is just such absolute common sceense. No, your absolute

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Speaker 2: common scenes. Do you think anybody's listening at World Rugby,

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Speaker 2: because surely a red card can't be seen as harsh

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Speaker 2: or unlucky.

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Speaker 6: No, it shouldn't be that. That's not what I mean.

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Speaker 6: You know, a red card is your head by somebody,

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Speaker 6: you punch somebody from behind, you kick somebody ahead on

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Speaker 6: the floor. That's what a red card should be. Or

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Speaker 6: as I said, you're going up, you charging in upright

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Speaker 6: a shoulder into an upright tackle or a clearout, which

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Speaker 6: is total recklessness. That's what a red card should be.

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Speaker 6: And when you're looking at incidents, and we've seen them

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Speaker 7: With this as well.

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Speaker 6: You see, upright tackers are not illegal if you go

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Speaker 6: have now the game has changed. One player will go low,

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Speaker 6: the other player will go high to try and prevent

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Speaker 6: an offload or rip the ball or wrap the arms.

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Speaker 6: We can't offload another player. That action is not illegal.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing illegal in that. It only becomes an offense

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Speaker 6: if you get it wrong and you make contact with

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Speaker 6: a player's head illegally. So what they're trying to do,

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Speaker 6: they're trying to get players to change behavior without actually

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Speaker 6: nothing in law to say you have to do it.

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Speaker 6: And this is when we are landing up then with

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Speaker 6: harsh red cards. We seen County in the World Cup.

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Speaker 6: Some of them were totally deserved, others were, oh god,

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Speaker 6: this is a bit harsh. This is unlucky. For that reason,

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Speaker 6: it shouldn't be a red card in the first place.

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Speaker 6: And so that's what I'm my concern is, we're not

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Speaker 6: like to see them do.

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Speaker 2: So, while the red red card threshold is where it is,

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Speaker 2: while the rules are as they are written, isn't the

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Speaker 2: twenty minute red card in some ways a good idea

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Speaker 2: to give redrace to a harsh or unlucky dismissal.

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Speaker 6: Well, that is a fair point in what you say

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Speaker 6: a prevention, it's not a deterrent. And then if you

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Speaker 6: which can take away from the spectacle. But we also

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Speaker 6: I think it does disadvantage of couse.

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Speaker 2: Its just to finish, Nodule. The common scenes that you've

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm not the only I do some work for World Rugby,

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Speaker 6: not an easy job and the most they do a

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Speaker 6: very decent, decent job. But I'm not involved in I

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Speaker 6: was not involved in this process. I'm not involved in

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Speaker 6: But there are good people who are involved in that process.

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Speaker 6: But but I'm not. I'm a part of that of

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Speaker 2: All right, Nogela, it's been really instructive listening to your chat.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking our call. We really appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: On the best, all the best to you too, Nigel.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Nigel Lowns with eleven minutes of absolute

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Speaker 2: common sense. Imagine if Nigel Owens was sitting around whatever

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Speaker 2: because here is the problem. In their quest to protect

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Speaker 2: It should be clear and obvious, and nobody, not a

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Speaker 2: I'm talking outright thuggery or recklessness, as Nigerlowen's caught it there.

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Speaker 2: If someone does that, their team should suffer. The consequences

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Speaker 2: Begin for your views. Lots of ideas coming through on

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Speaker 2: Twelve twenty eight. Off to the lines in a minute.

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Speaker 2: This's from a short time ago in Vancouver.

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Speaker 4: Packing Genus Integrate's arm up from Sarah Cox taking off

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Speaker 4: Try fifteen fourteen half an hour?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen fourteen half an hour gone? Are actually thirty

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Speaker 9: Good?

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Speaker 2: Thanks George? What's on your mind? With read cards, et cetera?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, still painting, So that means another another call to you.

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Speaker 10: Unfortunately no for you.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's like to do the whole street. Do the

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Speaker 11: Hey, Elma, I was.

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Speaker 10: Actually I've got a whole heap of respect to Nigel

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Speaker 10: The reality is, you know, what constitutes a red card

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Speaker 10: They've learned more about the head knocks and they're trying

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Speaker 10: dogson on Earth. It messes with you've been to everything

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Speaker 10: like the Orblex was still going to be severely disadvantaged

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the main guts of what Nigel Owen's

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Speaker 2: which I think is what you know was what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: view is that when the rules are as they are

430
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Speaker 2: at the moment, then there needs to be a twenty

431
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Speaker 2: minute red card because somebody can get a red card

432
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Speaker 2: which is unfair or hush.

433
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Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly if it's a nector figure, if it's a

434
00:22:28,067 --> 00:22:30,667
Speaker 10: punch or a kick or a stamp or or as

435
00:22:30,707 --> 00:22:36,427
Speaker 10: you say, something a reckless shoulder, maybe that yeah, hey,

436
00:22:36,507 --> 00:22:38,347
Speaker 10: call it a blue card, recud whatever you want. But

437
00:22:38,747 --> 00:22:41,147
Speaker 10: it's almost like there should be a blanket, you know,

438
00:22:41,187 --> 00:22:44,147
Speaker 10: a red card head related red card, and that's subject

439
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Speaker 10: to a twenty minute stand there because it is a

440
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Speaker 10: mess of store, a massive disadvantage to a team losing

441
00:22:50,547 --> 00:22:53,147
Speaker 10: a player for the for the whole match, and you

442
00:22:53,227 --> 00:22:56,667
Speaker 10: know how that disrupts the strategy around and pick, bringing

443
00:22:56,707 --> 00:22:58,747
Speaker 10: the bench onto the field and and everything like that.

444
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Speaker 10: And as I sort of go to before, if you

445
00:23:02,227 --> 00:23:04,227
Speaker 10: sort of say that person's going to be up for

446
00:23:04,347 --> 00:23:07,347
Speaker 10: judiciary and facing a lengthy band, that's going to put

447
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:09,347
Speaker 10: you know, it's going to be a main motivator for

448
00:23:09,467 --> 00:23:12,187
Speaker 10: that particular player who's got contracts to worry about and

449
00:23:12,507 --> 00:23:15,027
Speaker 10: spots on the team to not want to put their

450
00:23:15,067 --> 00:23:16,107
Speaker 10: team under that situation.

451
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

452
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Speaker 2: Correct, Because Sam came was sent off for half an

453
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Speaker 2: hour into the World Cup final, wasn't they So say,

454
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Speaker 2: let's say it was thirty minutes. I thinks about thirty minutes.

455
00:23:22,707 --> 00:23:24,627
Speaker 2: So that would mean that if there was a twenty

456
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Speaker 2: minute red card ten minutes into the second half, New

457
00:23:27,547 --> 00:23:29,787
Speaker 2: Zealand would have been back to fifteen. Yes, I hear

458
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Speaker 2: what you're saying about the bench being messed up and

459
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Speaker 2: all that sort of thing, but at least it would

460
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Speaker 2: have been numerically even in that case, it wasn't. And

461
00:23:36,267 --> 00:23:38,187
Speaker 2: look New Zealand only lost by one point and we

462
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Speaker 2: don't know what would happen if they had fifteen plars

463
00:23:39,987 --> 00:23:43,587
Speaker 2: on the field. But yeah, a twenty minute red card

464
00:23:43,627 --> 00:23:46,547
Speaker 2: would certainly have helped New Zealand in that case, in

465
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Speaker 2: the case where Sam Kaine's red card was harsh.

466
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Speaker 10: Exactly, and you actually end up putting the refs under

467
00:23:54,467 --> 00:23:57,747
Speaker 10: quite a compromise position. You know, they're sort of standing

468
00:23:57,867 --> 00:23:59,307
Speaker 10: in the barrel of you know, am I going to

469
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Speaker 10: make this call on this occasion on the world stage.

470
00:24:03,147 --> 00:24:07,067
Speaker 10: They shouldn't really be in that position. They Ayconner should

471
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Speaker 10: be able to look at it in the lens of

472
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Speaker 10: I don't know, player safety and welfare and know that

473
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Speaker 10: they're not about to make a call that's potentially going to,

474
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Speaker 10: you know, really impact the final, which is possibly going

475
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Speaker 10: through the hidden when it was twenty minutes into a

476
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Speaker 10: World Cup final or I think the semi final before

477
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Speaker 10: when it was earlier on in the game.

478
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure George that would they would say, oh,

479
00:24:29,707 --> 00:24:31,467
Speaker 2: we just look at an isolation, whether it's a pull

480
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Speaker 2: match between the All Blacks and Uruguay, whether it's a

481
00:24:33,867 --> 00:24:35,947
Speaker 2: World Cup final, we still just look at the facts.

482
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it can't help a plan in their mind

483
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Speaker 2: when it's such a big game. Great to chat mate,

484
00:24:40,427 --> 00:24:42,827
Speaker 2: get that paintbrush back in your hand, but cool back

485
00:24:42,867 --> 00:24:45,947
Speaker 2: any type good to chat to ye. Lots of texts

486
00:24:45,947 --> 00:24:48,427
Speaker 2: coming through, so good from Nigel says Mike should be

487
00:24:48,507 --> 00:24:51,347
Speaker 2: like the NRL, unless it's blatant foul play, it's a

488
00:24:51,427 --> 00:24:54,427
Speaker 2: yellow card and then cite them forward judiciary afterwards. I

489
00:24:54,547 --> 00:24:58,267
Speaker 2: think that makes absolute sense, doesn't it, you know, putting

490
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Speaker 2: someone on report or you know, or whatever it might be. Thuggery, recklessness,

491
00:25:06,387 --> 00:25:10,427
Speaker 2: absolute serious foul play, red card. Okay, nobody disagrees with that,

492
00:25:11,947 --> 00:25:14,147
Speaker 2: but we're at the situation now in rugby with the

493
00:25:14,267 --> 00:25:17,067
Speaker 2: rules being tweaked and the focus on head to head

494
00:25:17,147 --> 00:25:22,387
Speaker 2: contact where harsh and unfair and unlucky red cards can

495
00:25:22,427 --> 00:25:27,747
Speaker 2: be handed out, and that's just simply not good. It's

496
00:25:27,827 --> 00:25:31,307
Speaker 2: not logical. There needs to be I don't know whether

497
00:25:31,387 --> 00:25:35,067
Speaker 2: we go back to, you know, red cards only being

498
00:25:35,107 --> 00:25:38,827
Speaker 2: for the ready serious foul play and head to contact

499
00:25:38,907 --> 00:25:41,827
Speaker 2: is yellow whatever it is, or there's orange cards, which

500
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:44,027
Speaker 2: are you a card where yes, okay, you're sent off,

501
00:25:44,547 --> 00:25:47,587
Speaker 2: but with an orange card you can be replaced. So

502
00:25:47,707 --> 00:25:54,667
Speaker 2: something in between red card, absolute thuggery, orange card. You know,

503
00:25:54,987 --> 00:25:58,947
Speaker 2: by the letter of the law you're off. But accidental, harsh, unfair.

504
00:25:59,107 --> 00:26:01,387
Speaker 2: You can be replaced yellow card as it always is

505
00:26:01,627 --> 00:26:02,387
Speaker 2: ten minutes in the bin.

506
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Speaker 12: Hey, Tony, you know I have slightly doing this Spig

507
00:26:07,387 --> 00:26:10,187
Speaker 12: the right supportment Mindy alone was saying about it. I agree,

508
00:26:10,227 --> 00:26:13,147
Speaker 12: But the part I've never agreed with is if a

509
00:26:13,307 --> 00:26:18,187
Speaker 12: plague it's too yellow cards is automatically sent off. Now

510
00:26:18,347 --> 00:26:20,427
Speaker 12: you're going to have situations where they get a yellow

511
00:26:20,587 --> 00:26:23,227
Speaker 12: card or their a lenchip, knocking a ball down when

512
00:26:23,227 --> 00:26:25,907
Speaker 12: they're trying to do an intercept or maybe stopping at

513
00:26:25,947 --> 00:26:30,227
Speaker 12: Troy or something like that. And my opinion is that

514
00:26:30,427 --> 00:26:33,347
Speaker 12: I don't think that too yellows for those sort of

515
00:26:33,427 --> 00:26:35,747
Speaker 12: what they call professional felt they should be sent off.

516
00:26:35,747 --> 00:26:38,707
Speaker 12: They should be sent off for another ten minutes. I

517
00:26:38,947 --> 00:26:42,387
Speaker 12: totally disagree where they're off the field for good but

518
00:26:42,547 --> 00:26:47,227
Speaker 12: committing defense where there's no player danger, but through acts

519
00:26:47,267 --> 00:26:49,587
Speaker 12: of jeerlessness. I've never agreed with that.

520
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Speaker 9: What do you think about it?

521
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Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, Tony, I totally agree. Let's

522
00:26:53,507 --> 00:26:55,467
Speaker 2: look at a couple of yellow card offensis. Yeah, the one,

523
00:26:55,547 --> 00:26:57,627
Speaker 2: the one, the one that you've mentioned there. Yeah, the knockdown,

524
00:26:57,667 --> 00:27:00,667
Speaker 2: the deliberate knockdown, which you know often can be a

525
00:27:00,707 --> 00:27:02,427
Speaker 2: little bit controversial because you can say, well, I was

526
00:27:02,427 --> 00:27:03,987
Speaker 2: going for the intercept and didn't quite get it right.

527
00:27:04,067 --> 00:27:06,587
Speaker 2: Yellow can't. And then what let's say the second yellow

528
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:09,787
Speaker 2: card is for accumulation of offenses. You know what it's

529
00:27:09,867 --> 00:27:12,067
Speaker 2: like when a team continues to infringe and the ref

530
00:27:12,147 --> 00:27:13,867
Speaker 2: goes like, the next one is on the bin. You

531
00:27:13,947 --> 00:27:15,867
Speaker 2: might not have done any of the previous ones. You're

532
00:27:15,907 --> 00:27:18,027
Speaker 2: back on from your ten minutes off. Anyway, you're the

533
00:27:18,107 --> 00:27:19,787
Speaker 2: unlucky guy who gets caught on the wrong side of

534
00:27:19,787 --> 00:27:21,867
Speaker 2: the recor whatever it is. Second yellow red, you're out.

535
00:27:22,347 --> 00:27:24,547
Speaker 2: It's not that you're right too yellows. You should have

536
00:27:24,627 --> 00:27:25,547
Speaker 2: always equal or red.

537
00:27:25,587 --> 00:27:29,747
Speaker 12: You're right, that's absolutely one, and that's something with Rugby

538
00:27:29,787 --> 00:27:31,907
Speaker 12: should have looked at it the clues, you know what

539
00:27:32,027 --> 00:27:34,267
Speaker 12: I mean. I always look at a thing on the

540
00:27:34,347 --> 00:27:37,187
Speaker 12: big issues, but that's a very important technical issue and

541
00:27:37,227 --> 00:27:40,427
Speaker 12: they should really get into that because it's a ridiculous role.

542
00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:43,987
Speaker 2: Yeah, very different from football, where too yellow is equal

543
00:27:44,027 --> 00:27:46,507
Speaker 2: to red. But you know, that's a completely different set

544
00:27:46,587 --> 00:27:49,987
Speaker 2: of circumstances. There's no there's no synbon in football. It's

545
00:27:50,547 --> 00:27:53,827
Speaker 2: but you're so right, Tony, You're so right. You know,

546
00:27:53,947 --> 00:27:56,507
Speaker 2: if you get two yellow cards for something that's absolutely

547
00:27:56,547 --> 00:27:59,587
Speaker 2: your fault, then that's different. But you can get yellow cards,

548
00:27:59,587 --> 00:28:02,227
Speaker 2: as you've pointed out, with a deliberate knock on, which

549
00:28:02,507 --> 00:28:06,267
Speaker 2: is sometimes contentious, and like I say, the accumulation, that's

550
00:28:06,467 --> 00:28:09,707
Speaker 2: one that puzzles me. You can get a yellow card

551
00:28:09,827 --> 00:28:11,747
Speaker 2: or doesn't puzzle me. I understand why they do it.

552
00:28:11,987 --> 00:28:14,827
Speaker 2: If a team continues to infringe, as you know, the

553
00:28:14,827 --> 00:28:17,467
Speaker 2: opposition of trying to attack, and you're continually infringing to

554
00:28:17,507 --> 00:28:20,987
Speaker 2: stop them from scoring. I get why the referee says, okay,

555
00:28:21,067 --> 00:28:23,667
Speaker 2: next one's in the bin. If you've already been in

556
00:28:23,747 --> 00:28:26,027
Speaker 2: the bin and you're just doing your best to try

557
00:28:26,107 --> 00:28:28,027
Speaker 2: and you know, and you just happen to get on

558
00:28:28,107 --> 00:28:31,227
Speaker 2: the wrong side of the law if it's your second yellow.

559
00:28:33,187 --> 00:28:36,507
Speaker 2: It's a little bit harsh on you, really when you're

560
00:28:36,587 --> 00:28:39,827
Speaker 2: sort of carrying the can for something that your entire

561
00:28:39,907 --> 00:28:44,827
Speaker 2: team has been responsible for. So there's a bit to unpack.

562
00:28:46,747 --> 00:28:48,667
Speaker 2: Text tip as well as a red card. Why not

563
00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:51,267
Speaker 2: put the player on report? This can be looked at later.

564
00:28:51,427 --> 00:28:53,867
Speaker 2: Maybe a number of games stood down. Then it affects

565
00:28:53,947 --> 00:28:57,547
Speaker 2: the player more than the team and the game. Very good,

566
00:28:57,827 --> 00:29:03,707
Speaker 2: very logical, very logical. Absolutely so twenty minute red card.

567
00:29:05,347 --> 00:29:08,747
Speaker 2: So if we take away because if we're trying to

568
00:29:08,867 --> 00:29:15,067
Speaker 2: distinguish between types of red cards, that gets problematic. But

569
00:29:15,187 --> 00:29:17,507
Speaker 2: if you say, okay, every red card is a twenty

570
00:29:17,547 --> 00:29:20,747
Speaker 2: minute red card, even the ones for thuggery and recklessness.

571
00:29:21,307 --> 00:29:23,747
Speaker 2: If every red card is a twenty minute red card,

572
00:29:24,667 --> 00:29:27,827
Speaker 2: but then they are all examined by the judiciary. The

573
00:29:27,867 --> 00:29:29,667
Speaker 2: blake who comes hearing in the side of the ruck

574
00:29:29,707 --> 00:29:33,347
Speaker 2: and takes somebody's head off gets six to eight weeks,

575
00:29:34,187 --> 00:29:36,667
Speaker 2: whereas if it's accidental head on the head of contact

576
00:29:37,107 --> 00:29:39,987
Speaker 2: that could be judged as harsh or unfair, then you

577
00:29:40,067 --> 00:29:43,947
Speaker 2: might not get any ban and the impact on the

578
00:29:44,067 --> 00:29:50,227
Speaker 2: game is not significant. Because that's what I think New

579
00:29:50,347 --> 00:29:55,587
Speaker 2: Zealand and Rugby's push for this sits on what is

580
00:29:55,627 --> 00:29:59,587
Speaker 2: it doing to the spectacle New Zealand Rugby Mark Robinson

581
00:29:59,707 --> 00:30:01,667
Speaker 2: big fans of the twenty minute red card. I have

582
00:30:01,747 --> 00:30:04,667
Speaker 2: seen it in action down here in Super Rugby. It's

583
00:30:04,747 --> 00:30:08,947
Speaker 2: a good idea, a good idea for making sure that

584
00:30:09,027 --> 00:30:12,667
Speaker 2: there's no lopsided or imbalanced games of rugby which can

585
00:30:12,707 --> 00:30:16,867
Speaker 2: affect the spectator experience up north and over in South Africa.

586
00:30:16,947 --> 00:30:22,947
Speaker 2: They hate it, which you know is their prerogative obviously,

587
00:30:23,027 --> 00:30:26,627
Speaker 2: but I don't really get their vehement opposition to it.

588
00:30:28,107 --> 00:30:30,027
Speaker 2: Twenty to one. Fill with you after this, Oh, eight

589
00:30:30,147 --> 00:30:32,147
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty spear line, if you want

590
00:30:32,147 --> 00:30:35,147
Speaker 2: to jump aboard talk red cards, yellow cards, orange cards,

591
00:30:35,187 --> 00:30:38,187
Speaker 2: the whole traffic light fruit salad of cards. Back in

592
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Speaker 2: a second Weekend Sport, Don't get.

593
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Speaker 1: Caught offside eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with

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Speaker 1: Jason Paine and GJ. Guvnerholmes, New Zealand's most Trusted home

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Speaker 1: builder News Dogs NB.

596
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Speaker 2: Twelve forty three halftime in Vancouver. But just before halftime,

597
00:30:54,147 --> 00:30:56,507
Speaker 2: this first task is getting the ball in the scrum

598
00:30:56,707 --> 00:30:57,067
Speaker 2: or higher.

599
00:30:57,187 --> 00:30:59,627
Speaker 4: She has to take it herself or left inside run

600
00:30:59,747 --> 00:31:02,387
Speaker 4: drops her back in field. Lovely work around minute huggy

601
00:31:02,467 --> 00:31:08,587
Speaker 4: Paul Kaitland for her Colo liver Hey twenty to fourteen kicks.

602
00:31:08,387 --> 00:31:10,827
Speaker 2: A come there you go. That was the fourth try

603
00:31:10,907 --> 00:31:13,187
Speaker 2: for New Zealand just before halftime. All four have been

604
00:31:13,227 --> 00:31:15,547
Speaker 2: scored out wide. None of the four have been converted,

605
00:31:15,907 --> 00:31:18,627
Speaker 2: but New Zealand lead France twenty points to fourteen at

606
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:23,587
Speaker 2: halftime in this WXV one match steph unseas piney and hockey.

607
00:31:23,867 --> 00:31:26,747
Speaker 2: There are three card colors, green, yellow, red read for

608
00:31:26,827 --> 00:31:28,987
Speaker 2: exactly what Nigel wants a red card to be. Four.

609
00:31:29,307 --> 00:31:31,787
Speaker 2: Yellow can be for five or ten minutes, depending on

610
00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:35,027
Speaker 2: the degree. Green is two minutes off the field. Maybe

611
00:31:35,067 --> 00:31:36,867
Speaker 2: the twenty minute red card is another color to make

612
00:31:36,907 --> 00:31:40,427
Speaker 2: sure the punishment is proportional to the transgression. I agree

613
00:31:40,467 --> 00:31:42,587
Speaker 2: with Nigel that the twenty minute red card is papering

614
00:31:42,627 --> 00:31:45,747
Speaker 2: over the cracks and more complications will occur. Thank you,

615
00:31:45,787 --> 00:31:48,547
Speaker 2: Stephant appreciate it very much. Eight one hundred and eighty

616
00:31:48,587 --> 00:31:49,867
Speaker 2: ten eighty as always as our number.

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Speaker 13: Ken Hi, Hi, good ay, Jason, listen mate. Regarding the

618
00:31:54,827 --> 00:31:58,787
Speaker 13: red cards, I'm a big time rugby fan. The twenty

619
00:31:58,867 --> 00:32:02,467
Speaker 13: minute stand down is the best way to go because

620
00:32:02,827 --> 00:32:05,627
Speaker 13: I'm still trying to figure out what Nigel Olm was

621
00:32:05,667 --> 00:32:07,347
Speaker 13: trying to say is really complicating it.

622
00:32:09,227 --> 00:32:11,427
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think he was. What he was

623
00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:13,267
Speaker 2: trying to say was he doesn't agree with the twenty

624
00:32:13,307 --> 00:32:16,867
Speaker 2: minute red card because he doesn't agree with the red

625
00:32:16,947 --> 00:32:19,827
Speaker 2: card threshold. He believes the red card should be for

626
00:32:19,987 --> 00:32:24,827
Speaker 2: utter thuggery and recklessness and therefore, if you do those things,

627
00:32:24,907 --> 00:32:27,467
Speaker 2: you shouldn't get you twenty minutes and they get somebody

628
00:32:27,547 --> 00:32:29,507
Speaker 2: to come back on. And I don't think anyone suggesting

629
00:32:29,547 --> 00:32:31,387
Speaker 2: that can. I don't think anybody's saying, Okay, if a

630
00:32:31,427 --> 00:32:32,787
Speaker 2: guy comes on the side of a ruck and takes

631
00:32:32,827 --> 00:32:34,587
Speaker 2: another bloke's head off, that he should be able to

632
00:32:34,627 --> 00:32:37,387
Speaker 2: be replaced after twenty minutes. It's just that the red

633
00:32:37,467 --> 00:32:40,827
Speaker 2: card threshold now is so low, like the accidental head

634
00:32:40,827 --> 00:32:42,987
Speaker 2: on head contact, that we have to have a way

635
00:32:43,027 --> 00:32:46,027
Speaker 2: of redressing that imbalanced exactly.

636
00:32:46,227 --> 00:32:48,547
Speaker 13: You know, like how you know with Sam Kaine at

637
00:32:48,587 --> 00:32:51,027
Speaker 13: the World Cup, you know, I mean he goes off

638
00:32:51,067 --> 00:32:54,067
Speaker 13: of the whole game, yet the South African captain exactly

639
00:32:54,147 --> 00:32:59,027
Speaker 13: the same thing comes on after teen minutes or half

640
00:32:59,027 --> 00:33:01,667
Speaker 13: an hour or whatever it was, you know, and that's

641
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Speaker 13: sort of ruining the spectatorship. And you know, if you

642
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Speaker 13: start sort of saying, oh, a red card, just have

643
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Speaker 13: it a red card if it's you know, if the

644
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Speaker 13: referee deems it a red card. But the problem is

645
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Speaker 13: a lot of the problem is is the TMO, Jason,

646
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Speaker 13: the TMO quite often reads it differently than the ref

647
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Speaker 13: and the TMO, you know, how do they actually say

648
00:33:21,747 --> 00:33:24,027
Speaker 13: this total thuggery you can be a thug, but you

649
00:33:24,107 --> 00:33:26,667
Speaker 13: can do it discreetly, if that makes sense.

650
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Speaker 2: Yes, I know you're not speaking of experienced. There can

651
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Speaker 2: no no, of course, but I know I know what

652
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Speaker 2: you mean. Yeah, the little Yeah, you're right, you could yeah,

653
00:33:37,227 --> 00:33:38,067
Speaker 2: heading away from.

654
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Speaker 13: You know, back in the days with Colin Eas and

655
00:33:41,507 --> 00:33:43,467
Speaker 13: all those guys and column was never a thug.

656
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Speaker 10: But you know, you know what I mean.

657
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Speaker 13: I mean, you can do things that but if you

658
00:33:48,987 --> 00:33:51,067
Speaker 13: keep it simple, have the red card, keep the red

659
00:33:51,107 --> 00:33:53,867
Speaker 13: card as it is, off they go for twenty minutes,

660
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Speaker 13: and they're always replaced by somebody else. And if the

661
00:33:57,347 --> 00:34:01,747
Speaker 13: TMO and after reviewing it after the game, he needs

662
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Speaker 13: to stand down for six weeks or two months, be it,

663
00:34:04,587 --> 00:34:06,267
Speaker 13: so be it, you know, you know what I mean,

664
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Speaker 13: because they'll cut out the mistake of was that intentional or.

665
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Speaker 14: Was that not?

666
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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And then the yeah yeah and with that you're right

668
00:34:14,547 --> 00:34:16,787
Speaker 2: and without any time pressure as well. Ken So yeah,

669
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Speaker 2: so the player, the player is so the player is

670
00:34:18,867 --> 00:34:21,387
Speaker 2: red carded. Okay, they're replaced after twenty minutes, but then

671
00:34:21,667 --> 00:34:24,267
Speaker 2: after the game, yeah, exactly right. But then after the game,

672
00:34:24,907 --> 00:34:27,027
Speaker 2: you know, the next day or whatever it is, across

673
00:34:27,067 --> 00:34:29,267
Speaker 2: the next week, it's examined, the judiciary has a look

674
00:34:29,267 --> 00:34:32,067
Speaker 2: at it and says, okay, actually that is that is stuggery,

675
00:34:32,147 --> 00:34:34,867
Speaker 2: that's recklessness. You're out for six weeks or hey, that

676
00:34:34,987 --> 00:34:37,387
Speaker 2: was accidental, harsh and but unfair. You're only going to

677
00:34:37,387 --> 00:34:38,667
Speaker 2: get a week off or whatever.

678
00:34:38,467 --> 00:34:38,827
Speaker 16: It might be.

679
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Speaker 2: But the game itself wasn't impacted in the moment, because

680
00:34:42,427 --> 00:34:44,427
Speaker 2: you know, but and the with the benefit of a

681
00:34:44,467 --> 00:34:46,467
Speaker 2: bit of time to look at it, then you can

682
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Speaker 2: decide on the on the punishment.

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Speaker 13: One hundred percent, Jason, one hundred percent, because you know,

684
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Speaker 13: I still have nightmans about seeing Kaine in that World

685
00:34:54,907 --> 00:34:57,747
Speaker 13: Cup because the poor boger, you know, I mean, he's

686
00:34:57,787 --> 00:35:00,747
Speaker 13: not a duty player, and and you know, had he

687
00:35:00,827 --> 00:35:03,587
Speaker 13: been sent off, fear enough to risk saw that but

688
00:35:03,707 --> 00:35:05,907
Speaker 13: let him be replaced after twenty minutes because it runs

689
00:35:05,907 --> 00:35:08,227
Speaker 13: the game. You know, we probably would have won that game.

690
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you, Ken, Thanks mate, Thanks for calling through.

691
00:35:12,507 --> 00:35:14,987
Speaker 2: Please call back any time, Phil, Thanks for holding.

692
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Speaker 16: All right, Bonnie, how are you good?

693
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Speaker 2: Thank you mate?

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Speaker 17: Excellent, excellent. Yeah, it's I listened to Michael Oh and

695
00:35:23,067 --> 00:35:25,267
Speaker 17: that was a great interview I thought talking to him,

696
00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:28,507
Speaker 17: and on the surface of it, like you said, it

697
00:35:28,707 --> 00:35:30,987
Speaker 17: just seems so simple, it doesn't, it make so much sense.

698
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Speaker 17: But it only gets more complicated, I think when you

699
00:35:33,467 --> 00:35:38,027
Speaker 17: start thinking about it. You know, because if you if

700
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Speaker 17: you take like an incident where someone is just a

701
00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:45,267
Speaker 17: mongol good old fashioned term mongol, you know, or or

702
00:35:45,347 --> 00:35:50,147
Speaker 17: does something really dirty or blatantly wrong, like charging in

703
00:35:50,267 --> 00:35:56,707
Speaker 17: with an elbow, like I think that time Richie Richie

704
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Speaker 17: got the elbow where the South African in the head,

705
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Speaker 17: I think when he was lying on the ground or

706
00:36:01,747 --> 00:36:04,347
Speaker 17: punching someone from behind or to the side or something

707
00:36:04,507 --> 00:36:08,387
Speaker 17: charging in. Then you sort of think, well, that's got

708
00:36:08,467 --> 00:36:10,547
Speaker 17: to be punished. It's got to be punished severely at

709
00:36:10,627 --> 00:36:13,307
Speaker 17: the time, you know, because that is just blatant thuggery

710
00:36:13,427 --> 00:36:17,107
Speaker 17: and that word thuggery and wrong. So you think, right,

711
00:36:17,147 --> 00:36:21,747
Speaker 17: that's red card for the entire game. I think, I

712
00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:24,067
Speaker 17: like the idea of this red card for twenty minutes,

713
00:36:24,107 --> 00:36:26,067
Speaker 17: and I like, I say, it only going to start

714
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Speaker 17: to get complicated when I start sort of thinking about

715
00:36:28,067 --> 00:36:28,947
Speaker 17: it and thinking, well.

716
00:36:31,547 --> 00:36:34,107
Speaker 2: It pays not to think too deeply about things for others. No, no,

717
00:36:34,307 --> 00:36:36,387
Speaker 2: that's not true, but yeah, it does. It does open

718
00:36:36,507 --> 00:36:39,627
Speaker 2: up its own It does open up its own different

719
00:36:39,747 --> 00:36:40,467
Speaker 2: can of worms.

720
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Speaker 17: Yes, it does because you know, part of the problem

721
00:36:45,267 --> 00:36:48,347
Speaker 17: with rugby and the numbers and that are being struggling

722
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Speaker 17: and the popularity going down and people not going to

723
00:36:50,427 --> 00:36:52,307
Speaker 17: the games and watching it is if you take someone

724
00:36:52,427 --> 00:36:55,427
Speaker 17: off for the whole game, then it's got to have

725
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:58,467
Speaker 17: an effect. And instead of having a fair game so

726
00:36:58,627 --> 00:37:00,827
Speaker 17: to speak, where you've got the exact numbers playing each other,

727
00:37:01,067 --> 00:37:04,147
Speaker 17: it can become very one sided, and people they want

728
00:37:04,187 --> 00:37:07,747
Speaker 17: to watch a fair contest. So that creates a problem there,

729
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:12,027
Speaker 17: and I think that we should head more like down

730
00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:14,227
Speaker 17: the rugby league. What they do, you know, only if

731
00:37:14,267 --> 00:37:16,867
Speaker 17: we're a really severe incident and then you take it

732
00:37:16,947 --> 00:37:19,827
Speaker 17: to the judiciary afterwards and you hit them hard and

733
00:37:19,907 --> 00:37:24,627
Speaker 17: the judiciary and banned them. Rather go more down that way,

734
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Speaker 17: you know. Yep?

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Speaker 2: I agree, Phil, I agree that's the way we should go.

736
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Speaker 2: Got to get to another call mate, but good to

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Speaker 2: get as always, Anthony, you got to be.

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Speaker 15: On this, yeah, yeah, out now thugury red card. The

739
00:37:36,547 --> 00:37:39,347
Speaker 15: player should not be replaced because then the team will

740
00:37:39,347 --> 00:37:43,347
Speaker 15: step up their discipline. The problem that we have is

741
00:37:43,547 --> 00:37:47,547
Speaker 15: it's open to interpretation, and you know, the example being

742
00:37:47,627 --> 00:37:50,987
Speaker 15: Sam Kaine, you know, you've got a prop who's a

743
00:37:51,107 --> 00:37:53,347
Speaker 15: metro out from the line. He's driving for the line.

744
00:37:53,827 --> 00:37:56,747
Speaker 15: You've got a defender trying to defend his line and

745
00:37:56,827 --> 00:37:59,267
Speaker 15: the clash heads and they're three inches off the ground.

746
00:38:00,147 --> 00:38:02,227
Speaker 15: That's ridiculous, and the play isn't sent to the bin

747
00:38:02,587 --> 00:38:06,227
Speaker 15: or you know that. I think, well, we've lost is

748
00:38:06,347 --> 00:38:09,627
Speaker 15: common sense? So out and out thuggery. Your team should

749
00:38:09,627 --> 00:38:11,427
Speaker 15: be punished. Have you got a mungle on the field

750
00:38:11,867 --> 00:38:16,587
Speaker 15: that does something ridiculous? Tough luck your team's down to fourteen,

751
00:38:16,827 --> 00:38:19,787
Speaker 15: because then your team will start addressing the issues about

752
00:38:19,827 --> 00:38:23,347
Speaker 15: your discipline. But you know, the problem is we've got

753
00:38:23,347 --> 00:38:26,627
Speaker 15: a TMO from one week to another day that isn't consistent.

754
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Speaker 15: And this started to creep in with rugby league. It

755
00:38:29,587 --> 00:38:32,107
Speaker 15: got a little bit fashionable that you know, anything above

756
00:38:32,187 --> 00:38:35,227
Speaker 15: the shoulder, your symbols. So the first eight weeks of

757
00:38:35,347 --> 00:38:39,027
Speaker 15: rugby league this year that everyone got the bin. It

758
00:38:39,147 --> 00:38:41,907
Speaker 15: was like opradition out yellow cards. You get a yellow card,

759
00:38:41,907 --> 00:38:44,547
Speaker 15: you get a yellow card. So yeah, I think it

760
00:38:44,627 --> 00:38:48,307
Speaker 15: comes down to interpretation and the fact that common sense.

761
00:38:48,427 --> 00:38:52,667
Speaker 15: You know, the knock on, you know, a player getting

762
00:38:53,187 --> 00:38:59,387
Speaker 15: symbolmed for trying to intercept the ball. This is ridiculous,

763
00:38:59,707 --> 00:39:02,867
Speaker 15: and then it comes to interpretation. Was he legitimately trying

764
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:04,587
Speaker 15: to get the ball and it just happened to fall down,

765
00:39:04,747 --> 00:39:07,027
Speaker 15: or you know, all this sort of stuff. I think

766
00:39:07,107 --> 00:39:10,587
Speaker 15: some of the interpretation of the rules needs to be clarified.

767
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Speaker 2: Good Man, Anthony good points well, mate, I agree with

768
00:39:13,587 --> 00:39:16,347
Speaker 2: the deliberate co on. That needs to be looked at.

769
00:39:16,427 --> 00:39:18,547
Speaker 2: That rule. I don't know how because often you can.

770
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you do deliberately knock a ball down

771
00:39:20,787 --> 00:39:22,307
Speaker 2: when it's heading out to the winger who's got a

772
00:39:22,307 --> 00:39:24,867
Speaker 2: clear run to the line, then you know, then perhaps

773
00:39:25,027 --> 00:39:26,547
Speaker 2: it is worthy of a yellow card. But why not

774
00:39:26,627 --> 00:39:28,787
Speaker 2: just give a penalty try if you think a try

775
00:39:28,907 --> 00:39:30,307
Speaker 2: is going to be scored. I've got a minute with

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Speaker 2: your Graham. Sorry cat, your short what's on your mind?

777
00:39:33,787 --> 00:39:36,227
Speaker 18: No, no worries, mate. There's one thing that's been forgotten

778
00:39:36,227 --> 00:39:39,027
Speaker 18: about in all this, and that's the fan. I don't

779
00:39:39,067 --> 00:39:41,107
Speaker 18: know how much a ticket to the World Cup final,

780
00:39:41,547 --> 00:39:45,827
Speaker 18: what's the last year, Probably about a thousand euros. But

781
00:39:45,987 --> 00:39:49,227
Speaker 18: when you take off a guy the duration of the game,

782
00:39:49,547 --> 00:39:53,507
Speaker 18: you're deprived of the contest and you know, sitting here

783
00:39:53,627 --> 00:39:57,627
Speaker 18: as a fan eighty thousand of them. You're getting hipped off.

784
00:39:59,347 --> 00:40:02,187
Speaker 2: Common sense, Graham, common sense. The same sort of thing happened.

785
00:40:02,507 --> 00:40:04,827
Speaker 2: It wasn't a World Cup final. But when France came

786
00:40:04,867 --> 00:40:06,547
Speaker 2: to Wellington about I think it was about to twenty

787
00:40:06,547 --> 00:40:09,227
Speaker 2: eighteen and in the first ten minutes one of the

788
00:40:09,267 --> 00:40:12,667
Speaker 2: French guys got sent off. It was for challenging in

789
00:40:12,707 --> 00:40:14,987
Speaker 2: the air. It wasn't faggery necessarily, it wasn't head on

790
00:40:15,027 --> 00:40:16,547
Speaker 2: head contact with one of the you know you you

791
00:40:16,707 --> 00:40:19,467
Speaker 2: challenged somebody in the air. I can't remember who it was,

792
00:40:19,547 --> 00:40:21,827
Speaker 2: but anyway, France went down to fourteen. After ten minutes.

793
00:40:21,907 --> 00:40:23,907
Speaker 2: You could feel the energy sucked out of that ground.

794
00:40:24,987 --> 00:40:28,507
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, and I remember the game at even part

795
00:40:29,547 --> 00:40:33,907
Speaker 18: Mark's got two yellow cats. He didn't do anything wrong.

796
00:40:35,387 --> 00:40:41,387
Speaker 18: It hit bloody hard and he was a wee bit upright,

797
00:40:41,467 --> 00:40:46,067
Speaker 18: but the interpretations it was off the contest.

798
00:40:46,747 --> 00:40:48,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, Graham, you've put the You've put the fan right

799
00:40:48,947 --> 00:40:51,107
Speaker 2: in the middle of the conversation which we have to do.

800
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Speaker 2: We have to do. Thanks for your call mate. Seven

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Speaker 2: to one News Talks headb breaking.

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Speaker 1: Down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail Weekend Sport

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00:41:01,347 --> 00:41:05,267
Speaker 1: with Jason Pin News Talk ZB for one.

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00:41:05,307 --> 00:41:07,987
Speaker 2: News Talk's head Bill have scored another try in Vancouver.

805
00:41:08,107 --> 00:41:11,067
Speaker 2: The backfurns. This is twenty seven to fourteen. They lead

806
00:41:11,147 --> 00:41:13,507
Speaker 2: France now after eight minutes and the second half. Caitlin

807
00:41:13,867 --> 00:41:15,987
Speaker 2: Carlo has scored her third try hat trick for her

808
00:41:16,027 --> 00:41:18,547
Speaker 2: and this one was converted by Hanni King. So twenty

809
00:41:18,627 --> 00:41:22,107
Speaker 2: seven points to fourteen and that just becomes thirty two

810
00:41:22,267 --> 00:41:25,507
Speaker 2: fourteen as I'm talking to you. Much better performance from

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00:41:25,547 --> 00:41:29,227
Speaker 2: New Zealand in this one, thirty two points to fourteen

812
00:41:29,267 --> 00:41:31,227
Speaker 2: with a kick to come as they crash over for

813
00:41:31,387 --> 00:41:36,107
Speaker 2: their sixth try. Cay Paul alson Baker. The number eight

814
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Speaker 2: is on the score sheet for New Zealand. We'll keep

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Speaker 2: eyes on that. After one o'clock, off to Barcelona, wrapping

816
00:41:42,307 --> 00:41:43,787
Speaker 2: Day one of the America's Cup.

817
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Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest spoors issues on

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Speaker 1: and after field, it's all on Weekends Ford with Jason

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Speaker 1: Vane on your home of Sport US Talks.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome into Weekend Sport on News Talk. Said,

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Speaker 2: but it's one o seven. I'm Jason Pine. Andy McDonald

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Speaker 2: is producing the show. If you call the show, he's

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Speaker 2: the first chap you'll talk to. Oh eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty as a number you can call any time.

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Speaker 2: Anything that takes your fancy or that catches your ear

826
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Speaker 2: you'd like to pass comments on. If you'd rather do

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00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:21,307
Speaker 2: that electronically, text nine two nine two or send an

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Speaker 2: email to Jason at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot nz. Keeping

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Speaker 2: on live sporters. We always do this from Vancouver A

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Speaker 2: short time ago in short of the line, holl Higher.

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Speaker 4: For chrispher Leko charging for the replacement prop for short

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Speaker 4: of the line ho Higher Olsen Baker, Olsen Baker's over

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Speaker 4: you zeal And get another thirty two fourteen eight gone second.

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Speaker 2: Spell and that was converted to make it thirty four fourteen.

835
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Speaker 2: We've had fifteen minutes in the second half. France have

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00:42:50,027 --> 00:42:53,187
Speaker 2: a player in the Synbon four ironically enough, just what

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00:42:53,307 --> 00:42:55,227
Speaker 2: we were talking about before one o'clock, but a head

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00:42:55,267 --> 00:42:58,627
Speaker 2: on a head contact yellow card and refer to the bunker.

839
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Speaker 2: And it looks as though the I thought the black

840
00:43:01,747 --> 00:43:03,467
Speaker 2: ferns were going to go on again in the corner,

841
00:43:03,507 --> 00:43:06,107
Speaker 2: but an errands pass has prevented that. But we'll keep

842
00:43:06,147 --> 00:43:08,867
Speaker 2: your dated with how things go. Thirty four to fourteen

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00:43:08,947 --> 00:43:11,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand looking to end their wxv one campaign and

844
00:43:11,907 --> 00:43:15,827
Speaker 2: their calendar year on a bit of a high. We

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Speaker 2: can get you to blend him this hour where it's

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00:43:18,747 --> 00:43:23,787
Speaker 2: Bunning's MPC quarter final number four, Tasman hosting Canterbury for

847
00:43:24,547 --> 00:43:26,587
Speaker 2: the right to make it through to the semifinals. We've

848
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Speaker 2: got one of our semi finals confirmed Wellington v. White Cuttle.

849
00:43:31,547 --> 00:43:34,267
Speaker 2: Without having an absolutely confirmed, I understand that game will

850
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Speaker 2: be Friday night at sky Stadium, Wellington against White Cuttle.

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00:43:37,907 --> 00:43:41,627
Speaker 2: They have plenty of three. They will either host Canterbury

852
00:43:41,827 --> 00:43:45,707
Speaker 2: or visit Tasman depending on the outcome of this afternoons game.

853
00:43:45,827 --> 00:43:48,347
Speaker 2: As I say, we'll get you down to Blenham to

854
00:43:48,867 --> 00:43:51,547
Speaker 2: set the scene a little bit with Tasman Rugby CEO

855
00:43:51,707 --> 00:43:55,467
Speaker 2: Steve Mitchell this hour. James mcconiy is along as well

856
00:43:55,627 --> 00:43:59,147
Speaker 2: in his regular slot. But to the America's Cup we

857
00:43:59,267 --> 00:44:02,187
Speaker 2: Go and Team New Zealand have made a sizzling start

858
00:44:02,307 --> 00:44:04,907
Speaker 2: to the defense of the Old Mugan Barcelona a two

859
00:44:04,987 --> 00:44:08,787
Speaker 2: nil lead in the first to seven series against Ineos Britannia.

860
00:44:09,147 --> 00:44:10,987
Speaker 2: After a delay of almost an hour waiting for the

861
00:44:11,067 --> 00:44:13,187
Speaker 2: wind to build up, the Keys dominated the first race

862
00:44:13,267 --> 00:44:17,267
Speaker 2: and light shifty conditions to win by forty one seconds.

863
00:44:17,827 --> 00:44:20,427
Speaker 2: A rather more tense battle and race to the team's

864
00:44:20,467 --> 00:44:22,907
Speaker 2: trading the league before ten yew Zealand found a good

865
00:44:22,947 --> 00:44:25,627
Speaker 2: win shift on legue five to kick on in a

866
00:44:25,787 --> 00:44:29,027
Speaker 2: game that has somewhat so like a chess match.

867
00:44:29,507 --> 00:44:34,987
Speaker 19: It is checkmate to Emirates Team New Zealand's they lead

868
00:44:35,067 --> 00:44:39,347
Speaker 19: the cut now two races toil Tonell.

869
00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:42,187
Speaker 2: There are two more races scheduled overnight tonight. The New

870
00:44:42,307 --> 00:44:45,827
Speaker 2: Zealand heralds Chris Reeve is covering the Cup for US

871
00:44:45,907 --> 00:44:49,227
Speaker 2: in Barcelona. You can read his reports and analysis at

872
00:44:49,387 --> 00:44:52,347
Speaker 2: Enze Herald dot co dot NZI. Joins us now, Chris,

873
00:44:52,787 --> 00:44:55,907
Speaker 2: I read one of your pieces that suggested Ineos had

874
00:44:55,947 --> 00:44:59,267
Speaker 2: a problem with their battery just before the start of

875
00:44:59,307 --> 00:44:59,947
Speaker 2: the first race.

876
00:45:00,067 --> 00:45:00,427
Speaker 3: Is that right?

877
00:45:01,187 --> 00:45:03,467
Speaker 20: Yeah, there was a little bit of an issue going on.

878
00:45:03,667 --> 00:45:07,707
Speaker 20: I talked to one of the aniosks after Todany couldn't

879
00:45:07,747 --> 00:45:10,827
Speaker 20: really tell me what was going on there, but it

880
00:45:10,907 --> 00:45:13,707
Speaker 20: sounded like they switched out one of their batteries which are.

881
00:45:13,707 --> 00:45:15,187
Speaker 2: Power the foils.

882
00:45:15,827 --> 00:45:19,187
Speaker 20: So I'm not really sure what the issue was, but

883
00:45:19,347 --> 00:45:21,787
Speaker 20: it did look like it sort of slowed them down

884
00:45:21,867 --> 00:45:24,907
Speaker 20: a little bit getting into that starting box for the

885
00:45:24,987 --> 00:45:27,827
Speaker 20: first race and really set them on the back foot

886
00:45:27,907 --> 00:45:30,347
Speaker 20: to basically straight off the bat.

887
00:45:30,747 --> 00:45:34,027
Speaker 2: So, Kevin, how important the starts and the prestart is.

888
00:45:34,827 --> 00:45:37,147
Speaker 2: Was it obvious that that gave Team New Zealand an

889
00:45:37,187 --> 00:45:38,267
Speaker 2: advantage in Race one?

890
00:45:39,387 --> 00:45:43,307
Speaker 20: Yeah? Absolutely. The starts have been something that have been

891
00:45:43,387 --> 00:45:47,067
Speaker 20: talked about basically all week leading into this and into

892
00:45:47,147 --> 00:45:50,547
Speaker 20: this Cup match. Just getting off the start line quick,

893
00:45:50,747 --> 00:45:54,627
Speaker 20: with pace and sort of in the right direction is

894
00:45:55,227 --> 00:45:58,707
Speaker 20: vital to winning these races. The team who leads after

895
00:45:58,787 --> 00:46:01,267
Speaker 20: the first leg is quite often the one who comes

896
00:46:01,307 --> 00:46:03,427
Speaker 20: out winning the race, and start as a big part

897
00:46:03,507 --> 00:46:07,147
Speaker 20: of that Team New Zealand getting the jump there. I

898
00:46:07,267 --> 00:46:10,547
Speaker 20: was talking to Andy Maloney, one of the trimmers after

899
00:46:10,667 --> 00:46:12,867
Speaker 20: the racing, and he felt like that start was one

900
00:46:12,907 --> 00:46:14,667
Speaker 20: of the best they've had all would get us. So

901
00:46:15,147 --> 00:46:18,027
Speaker 20: that's a great sign for a team who haven't had

902
00:46:18,027 --> 00:46:19,747
Speaker 20: a race in about a month to come out and

903
00:46:19,907 --> 00:46:21,147
Speaker 20: hit the ground running like they did.

904
00:46:21,347 --> 00:46:22,747
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think that was one of the big

905
00:46:22,827 --> 00:46:25,107
Speaker 2: questions Chris, wasn't It was how would team you set

906
00:46:25,147 --> 00:46:29,027
Speaker 2: on Bee having not raced competitively for the best part

907
00:46:29,107 --> 00:46:30,747
Speaker 2: of a month. Did they look like a team that

908
00:46:30,827 --> 00:46:33,027
Speaker 2: had just been watching on and not racing.

909
00:46:34,427 --> 00:46:38,387
Speaker 20: I looked like a team who just have been racing.

910
00:46:38,707 --> 00:46:41,347
Speaker 20: I mean, they looked great out there today. It wasn't

911
00:46:41,387 --> 00:46:44,507
Speaker 20: an easy day either. The wind was sort of all

912
00:46:44,627 --> 00:46:47,427
Speaker 20: over the place. It was light, and then it sort

913
00:46:47,467 --> 00:46:49,707
Speaker 20: of built into the afternoon, but it was still very

914
00:46:49,827 --> 00:46:52,947
Speaker 20: patchy and they had to work really hard to sort

915
00:46:52,987 --> 00:46:57,907
Speaker 20: of put the pieces together to make a good complete race.

916
00:46:57,987 --> 00:47:00,227
Speaker 20: And we saw that in the second race that they

917
00:47:00,267 --> 00:47:01,947
Speaker 20: were able to do that. I think it was the

918
00:47:02,627 --> 00:47:06,027
Speaker 20: fifth leg, the second to last up wind, that they

919
00:47:06,067 --> 00:47:09,387
Speaker 20: really started putting the putting the pieces together and built

920
00:47:09,427 --> 00:47:12,387
Speaker 20: a good lead in that one. And what really impressed

921
00:47:12,387 --> 00:47:15,467
Speaker 20: me about them today was the comms on board. Like

922
00:47:15,587 --> 00:47:17,867
Speaker 20: I said, it was a tough day and they were

923
00:47:17,947 --> 00:47:18,907
Speaker 20: really just kind.

924
00:47:18,707 --> 00:47:19,667
Speaker 7: Of talking it out.

925
00:47:19,867 --> 00:47:21,987
Speaker 20: And that's a big part of these boats now that

926
00:47:22,107 --> 00:47:25,427
Speaker 20: you've got helmsmen on both sides, so they really only

927
00:47:25,507 --> 00:47:28,427
Speaker 20: see one side of the course each So it was

928
00:47:28,507 --> 00:47:31,667
Speaker 20: really interesting to listen to that and just how sort

929
00:47:31,707 --> 00:47:33,907
Speaker 20: of detailed they go into these things.

930
00:47:34,307 --> 00:47:37,227
Speaker 2: Across the two races. Were you able to tell who's

931
00:47:37,347 --> 00:47:39,947
Speaker 2: faster upwind and who's faster downwind?

932
00:47:41,027 --> 00:47:43,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's hard to say, after one day of racing,

933
00:47:44,027 --> 00:47:46,667
Speaker 20: I think I would like to see them in well,

934
00:47:46,707 --> 00:47:49,627
Speaker 20: I guess a couple more races or different conditions to

935
00:47:49,747 --> 00:47:52,427
Speaker 20: see sort of what the paces look like. But today

936
00:47:52,587 --> 00:47:57,227
Speaker 20: it was very clear that Emeratesty New Zealand were faster

937
00:47:57,387 --> 00:48:01,787
Speaker 20: upwind and any of Us Britannia were faster downwind. Downwind

938
00:48:01,827 --> 00:48:05,787
Speaker 20: has been a big strength of the Bricks throughout the campaign,

939
00:48:05,907 --> 00:48:08,787
Speaker 20: so that was a big surprise. But it'll be interesting

940
00:48:08,827 --> 00:48:12,227
Speaker 20: to see how if that changes in the next few

941
00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:13,587
Speaker 20: races over the coming days.

942
00:48:13,787 --> 00:48:15,787
Speaker 2: So by the sounds of things, the second race was

943
00:48:15,947 --> 00:48:18,587
Speaker 2: a lot closer, just a twenty seven second winning margin

944
00:48:18,667 --> 00:48:21,147
Speaker 2: at the end. No lead changes in the first race, Chris,

945
00:48:21,227 --> 00:48:23,467
Speaker 2: Were there lead changes in the second?

946
00:48:24,667 --> 00:48:25,267
Speaker 11: Yeah, there were.

947
00:48:26,107 --> 00:48:29,147
Speaker 20: There were kind of in the first two or three legs.

948
00:48:29,667 --> 00:48:32,707
Speaker 20: There was a really really close match racing. That first

949
00:48:32,787 --> 00:48:37,067
Speaker 20: leg was great. The media center, we're all quite tense

950
00:48:37,147 --> 00:48:41,827
Speaker 20: watching that because just those crosses were so close you

951
00:48:41,907 --> 00:48:43,547
Speaker 20: didn't really know who was going to have the lead

952
00:48:43,667 --> 00:48:47,227
Speaker 20: by the first gate. Ultimately, Team New Zealand did get

953
00:48:47,347 --> 00:48:49,707
Speaker 20: that to get us quite a slim lead at the

954
00:48:49,747 --> 00:48:53,147
Speaker 20: first gate and went on to win. But yeah, it's

955
00:48:53,187 --> 00:48:55,787
Speaker 20: good to see some lead changes, because I know some

956
00:48:55,907 --> 00:48:58,707
Speaker 20: people might be a little bit skeptical after seeing some

957
00:48:58,947 --> 00:49:02,227
Speaker 20: races earlier in the campaign where you know, there weren't

958
00:49:02,267 --> 00:49:05,147
Speaker 20: a lot of lead changes. So actually seeing that and

959
00:49:05,267 --> 00:49:09,147
Speaker 20: seeing that just how competitive these two boats are alongside

960
00:49:09,227 --> 00:49:12,467
Speaker 20: one another, it's it bodes well for the coming week.

961
00:49:12,747 --> 00:49:14,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Team New Zealand will be very happy, obviously,

962
00:49:14,947 --> 00:49:17,387
Speaker 2: having banked two race wins, they just need to get

963
00:49:17,387 --> 00:49:21,507
Speaker 2: to seven. Did you see enough though from Anyos Britannia

964
00:49:21,587 --> 00:49:24,147
Speaker 2: to suggest that this won't just be seven nil?

965
00:49:25,267 --> 00:49:27,747
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think they'll. They'll make Team New Zealand work

966
00:49:27,827 --> 00:49:30,227
Speaker 20: for it. In saying that Team New Zealand could still

967
00:49:30,307 --> 00:49:32,107
Speaker 20: win this one seven nil, I mean that's not out

968
00:49:32,147 --> 00:49:36,667
Speaker 20: of the question at all. Like the second race today Inios,

969
00:49:37,027 --> 00:49:39,827
Speaker 20: Britannia probably could have won that had they been the

970
00:49:39,907 --> 00:49:42,787
Speaker 20: team to guess put those shifts together. So it can

971
00:49:42,867 --> 00:49:47,347
Speaker 20: come down to one or two decisions these races, you know,

972
00:49:47,747 --> 00:49:51,507
Speaker 20: make one make one rock move and you lose the race.

973
00:49:51,667 --> 00:49:53,587
Speaker 20: It's that that type.

974
00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:55,947
Speaker 2: And you mentioned the conditions a couple of times. Can

975
00:49:55,987 --> 00:49:57,947
Speaker 2: you just expand on them though, Chris, The nature of

976
00:49:58,027 --> 00:50:01,147
Speaker 2: the en course conditions that greeted these two teams today.

977
00:50:02,227 --> 00:50:04,307
Speaker 20: Yeah, we're kind of the reverse of what we were

978
00:50:04,587 --> 00:50:08,107
Speaker 20: told to expect. So we were told that the wind

979
00:50:08,147 --> 00:50:11,827
Speaker 20: would sort of be good for good for racing around

980
00:50:12,147 --> 00:50:14,787
Speaker 20: sort of two in the afternoon here, which is when

981
00:50:14,867 --> 00:50:17,707
Speaker 20: things were meant to start. That didn't happen. There was

982
00:50:17,747 --> 00:50:20,467
Speaker 20: a delay of about fifty minutes as the wind built,

983
00:50:21,067 --> 00:50:24,107
Speaker 20: And yeah, like I said before, when the wind did build,

984
00:50:24,307 --> 00:50:27,267
Speaker 20: it was like it was probably a decent breeze, sort

985
00:50:27,267 --> 00:50:29,187
Speaker 20: of toward the lower end of the limit still but

986
00:50:30,507 --> 00:50:34,947
Speaker 20: just a little bit better in certain areas of the course.

987
00:50:35,027 --> 00:50:37,787
Speaker 20: And the sea state, of course they get out here

988
00:50:38,107 --> 00:50:41,267
Speaker 20: doesn't really help these things in a little bit of

989
00:50:41,347 --> 00:50:45,187
Speaker 20: lump on the on the surface gives them something else

990
00:50:45,227 --> 00:50:48,347
Speaker 20: they have to sort of factor into all their decision making.

991
00:50:48,547 --> 00:50:50,827
Speaker 20: So there's a lot going on out there that these

992
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:55,387
Speaker 20: guys have to take into consideration when they're pre prepping

993
00:50:55,427 --> 00:50:56,627
Speaker 20: their boats for the conditions.

994
00:50:56,787 --> 00:50:59,987
Speaker 2: And there are two more races scheduled tomorrow. So have

995
00:51:00,107 --> 00:51:02,267
Speaker 2: you seen the fore cast. What's the likelihood of getting

996
00:51:02,267 --> 00:51:02,867
Speaker 2: those underway?

997
00:51:03,827 --> 00:51:07,987
Speaker 20: Yeah, fans back at home, I'm getting up to watching

998
00:51:08,067 --> 00:51:11,227
Speaker 20: the racing. They probably want to probably want to make

999
00:51:11,227 --> 00:51:13,547
Speaker 20: a strong pot of coffee for the morning. It's not

1000
00:51:13,827 --> 00:51:18,387
Speaker 20: looking good at the moment. We're expecting very very light

1001
00:51:18,507 --> 00:51:22,547
Speaker 20: when you know, maybe that'll change overnight and they get

1002
00:51:22,627 --> 00:51:26,267
Speaker 20: a little bit more breeze than they're expecting. But yeah,

1003
00:51:26,267 --> 00:51:29,347
Speaker 20: I don't know how confident they are about getting two

1004
00:51:29,467 --> 00:51:30,347
Speaker 20: races done tomorrow.

1005
00:51:30,467 --> 00:51:32,587
Speaker 2: All right, We'll wait and see on that. And now,

1006
00:51:32,707 --> 00:51:36,307
Speaker 2: with Team New Zealand actually racing competitively, is it obvious

1007
00:51:36,387 --> 00:51:39,227
Speaker 2: that there's a bit of support for Team New Zealand

1008
00:51:39,267 --> 00:51:39,947
Speaker 2: on short.

1009
00:51:40,627 --> 00:51:42,627
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's a lot of Kiwis in town.

1010
00:51:42,747 --> 00:51:42,907
Speaker 21: Man.

1011
00:51:43,507 --> 00:51:46,107
Speaker 20: We went down to the dock out this morning and

1012
00:51:46,187 --> 00:51:50,227
Speaker 20: there was thousands of people down there just lining the

1013
00:51:50,267 --> 00:51:53,827
Speaker 20: waterfront to watch the boat peel out. That's been something

1014
00:51:53,907 --> 00:51:56,707
Speaker 20: that's I guess grown over the last few days since

1015
00:51:56,747 --> 00:52:00,467
Speaker 20: I've been here, that there's a sort of noticeable influx

1016
00:52:00,547 --> 00:52:03,147
Speaker 20: of Kiwi's have made their way down here. And you

1017
00:52:03,187 --> 00:52:06,107
Speaker 20: see all the Team New Zealand kick down on the waterfront,

1018
00:52:06,147 --> 00:52:08,027
Speaker 20: So there's definitely plenty of support down here.

1019
00:52:08,187 --> 00:52:10,227
Speaker 2: Good to hear, Chris. Thanks for staying up for us, mate,

1020
00:52:10,307 --> 00:52:12,707
Speaker 2: get some sleep and we'll look forward to day two

1021
00:52:13,107 --> 00:52:16,227
Speaker 2: of the America's Cup match tomorrow. That's Chris Reeve from

1022
00:52:16,347 --> 00:52:19,707
Speaker 2: the New Zealand Herald. He's in Barcelona covering the America's

1023
00:52:19,747 --> 00:52:22,147
Speaker 2: Cup match for us. Read him at endzid Herald dot

1024
00:52:22,187 --> 00:52:24,067
Speaker 2: co dot nz or the analysis and other bits and

1025
00:52:24,107 --> 00:52:27,627
Speaker 2: pieces there for you as well. So to nil to

1026
00:52:27,987 --> 00:52:30,987
Speaker 2: New Zealand after two races? Did you get up and watch?

1027
00:52:32,067 --> 00:52:34,627
Speaker 2: Or did you We discussed this a lot yesterday. Did

1028
00:52:34,667 --> 00:52:38,747
Speaker 2: you go the more civilized approach of getting up this

1029
00:52:38,867 --> 00:52:41,467
Speaker 2: morning and watching a replay? What did you make of it?

1030
00:52:41,547 --> 00:52:44,027
Speaker 2: We had quite a bit of sailing analysis on the

1031
00:52:44,107 --> 00:52:46,987
Speaker 2: show yesterday. Actually didn't we I was quite I wasn't surprised.

1032
00:52:46,987 --> 00:52:49,027
Speaker 2: I knew the Zby audience were fairly well versed on

1033
00:52:49,427 --> 00:52:51,587
Speaker 2: all sorts of sport. But if you watch what did

1034
00:52:51,627 --> 00:52:53,867
Speaker 2: you make of it? Did it look as though Team

1035
00:52:53,947 --> 00:52:57,347
Speaker 2: New Zealand had the edge? I mean they're not huge margins,

1036
00:52:57,387 --> 00:52:59,947
Speaker 2: are they. I've looked at some highlights. I couldn't possibly

1037
00:53:00,027 --> 00:53:03,547
Speaker 2: say that I've analyzed these races in any depth. But

1038
00:53:03,667 --> 00:53:06,827
Speaker 2: when you win by the margins that Team New Zealand

1039
00:53:06,907 --> 00:53:09,947
Speaker 2: did of was it forty one seconds and then twenty

1040
00:53:10,027 --> 00:53:12,147
Speaker 2: seven seconds? The second race was really good? They were

1041
00:53:12,627 --> 00:53:14,347
Speaker 2: you know, I think it was who do we have.

1042
00:53:14,427 --> 00:53:18,587
Speaker 2: On yesterday, Ray Davies said, there's not often a heck

1043
00:53:18,667 --> 00:53:20,787
Speaker 2: of a lot of lead changing during these races, but

1044
00:53:21,187 --> 00:53:24,147
Speaker 2: there was in race too. They traded the lead, you know,

1045
00:53:24,267 --> 00:53:27,347
Speaker 2: a couple of three times before eventually ten Zealand found

1046
00:53:27,347 --> 00:53:28,987
Speaker 2: a good wind on leg five and kicked on and

1047
00:53:29,027 --> 00:53:31,467
Speaker 2: claimed the win. But if you watched it, keen to

1048
00:53:31,507 --> 00:53:33,627
Speaker 2: hear your thoughts, if it's the first time you've watched it,

1049
00:53:33,707 --> 00:53:34,947
Speaker 2: keen to hear your thoughts because a lot of people,

1050
00:53:34,947 --> 00:53:37,267
Speaker 2: like I said yesterday, haven't engaged with the America's Cup

1051
00:53:37,347 --> 00:53:39,787
Speaker 2: yet because we haven't been in it. Now we are.

1052
00:53:39,867 --> 00:53:41,907
Speaker 2: Did you watch it? What did you think? Susie's got

1053
00:53:41,947 --> 00:53:45,147
Speaker 2: in touch? Susie says, we spoke yesterday Jason, I had

1054
00:53:45,187 --> 00:53:47,307
Speaker 2: the whoop. See on the population of New Zealand. I

1055
00:53:47,387 --> 00:53:49,747
Speaker 2: see three million. I agree, it's actually five and a half.

1056
00:53:50,267 --> 00:53:53,147
Speaker 2: What a great night it was for the hundreds of

1057
00:53:53,227 --> 00:53:56,547
Speaker 2: thousands of Team New Zealand local and international supporters. I

1058
00:53:56,587 --> 00:53:59,627
Speaker 2: loved it. Thanks Susie. I thought you would. I thought

1059
00:53:59,707 --> 00:54:00,067
Speaker 2: you would.

1060
00:54:00,587 --> 00:54:00,947
Speaker 20: We will.

1061
00:54:01,387 --> 00:54:05,227
Speaker 2: We'll hear from Peter Berling and Andy Maloney very very shortly.

1062
00:54:05,267 --> 00:54:07,787
Speaker 2: But if you had a look, let us know you're analysis.

1063
00:54:07,827 --> 00:54:09,227
Speaker 2: Did you get up Mark and have a have a

1064
00:54:09,267 --> 00:54:11,667
Speaker 2: look or watch it this morning at breakfast time.

1065
00:54:12,947 --> 00:54:13,427
Speaker 8: I split.

1066
00:54:13,547 --> 00:54:16,387
Speaker 11: I watched the first race and I got up and

1067
00:54:16,427 --> 00:54:17,187
Speaker 11: watched the rebot.

1068
00:54:17,347 --> 00:54:19,307
Speaker 15: Actually I watched it on my computer when I get up.

1069
00:54:19,267 --> 00:54:19,747
Speaker 9: In the morning.

1070
00:54:19,827 --> 00:54:21,987
Speaker 11: But yeah, it looks like a team music on have

1071
00:54:22,627 --> 00:54:23,787
Speaker 11: passed the boat once again.

1072
00:54:24,907 --> 00:54:25,107
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1073
00:54:25,307 --> 00:54:27,907
Speaker 9: I just thinking the constant breeze. I think they'll they'll

1074
00:54:27,907 --> 00:54:28,507
Speaker 9: blow them away.

1075
00:54:28,547 --> 00:54:31,587
Speaker 11: It looked like they had a smaller a smaller gyb

1076
00:54:31,667 --> 00:54:34,707
Speaker 11: than any of which sort of affected their down wind speeder.

1077
00:54:34,747 --> 00:54:36,027
Speaker 11: But but they looked fast.

1078
00:54:36,347 --> 00:54:37,107
Speaker 15: I think of the two.

1079
00:54:37,067 --> 00:54:39,427
Speaker 22: Boats, you have to stay faster.

1080
00:54:40,267 --> 00:54:42,147
Speaker 11: It is was the key in America's Cup.

1081
00:54:42,827 --> 00:54:46,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, and the I read that book this morning.

1082
00:54:46,707 --> 00:54:48,747
Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether it was obvious on the TV

1083
00:54:48,867 --> 00:54:53,267
Speaker 2: coverage or not about any Ospretennia having. I mean, I've

1084
00:54:53,267 --> 00:54:55,227
Speaker 2: spent teens of millions of dollars on their boat and

1085
00:54:55,267 --> 00:54:57,827
Speaker 2: then they've got to replace their battery three minutes before

1086
00:54:57,867 --> 00:54:58,307
Speaker 2: the start.

1087
00:54:59,667 --> 00:55:02,867
Speaker 11: It was an idea, I suppose before the first first race,

1088
00:55:02,947 --> 00:55:05,107
Speaker 11: after you've spent so much money game here, it's not

1089
00:55:05,227 --> 00:55:09,307
Speaker 11: really not really idea, but I guess, yeah, those sort

1090
00:55:09,307 --> 00:55:12,107
Speaker 11: of things. What do you think about Dalton?

1091
00:55:12,147 --> 00:55:12,267
Speaker 1: Do you?

1092
00:55:12,627 --> 00:55:14,307
Speaker 11: I mean to me, I mean, if he's not going

1093
00:55:14,347 --> 00:55:15,947
Speaker 11: to bring it back to New Zealand, I think I'll

1094
00:55:15,987 --> 00:55:19,507
Speaker 11: actually rather the British want to be far. I just

1095
00:55:19,587 --> 00:55:21,307
Speaker 11: think what Grant Dalton.

1096
00:55:21,067 --> 00:55:25,467
Speaker 22: Did to New Zealand it was pretty dirty.

1097
00:55:25,747 --> 00:55:27,027
Speaker 9: What are you well?

1098
00:55:27,387 --> 00:55:30,267
Speaker 2: I tend to focus more on the on the on

1099
00:55:30,387 --> 00:55:33,147
Speaker 2: the on the water staff mark, if I'm honest. I look,

1100
00:55:33,467 --> 00:55:36,307
Speaker 2: I know Grant Dalton's a very polarizing figure. I've never

1101
00:55:36,387 --> 00:55:38,267
Speaker 2: met him. I've had the chance, I think, to speak

1102
00:55:38,267 --> 00:55:40,987
Speaker 2: to him a couple of times and interview situations. I

1103
00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:45,147
Speaker 2: think there's you know, there's certainly a school of thought

1104
00:55:45,227 --> 00:55:47,907
Speaker 2: that if we're not going to defend the cup on

1105
00:55:48,027 --> 00:55:51,707
Speaker 2: home Waters, then a lot of people will disengage from it.

1106
00:55:51,907 --> 00:55:53,907
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously stands to reason if it was

1107
00:55:53,947 --> 00:55:55,867
Speaker 2: that it was at Auckland and the Hoechy Golf or

1108
00:55:55,867 --> 00:55:57,667
Speaker 2: what am I to harb or whatever it was, then

1109
00:55:57,827 --> 00:56:00,107
Speaker 2: of course there'll be thousands and thousands and thousands of

1110
00:56:00,147 --> 00:56:05,587
Speaker 2: people there. But yeah, I haven't gone down the track

1111
00:56:05,667 --> 00:56:08,547
Speaker 2: of thinking, Okay, well he's annoyed me so much that

1112
00:56:08,667 --> 00:56:12,787
Speaker 2: I hope we lose it, Because I've met and chatted

1113
00:56:12,827 --> 00:56:15,307
Speaker 2: to a you know, to a number of the sailors

1114
00:56:15,347 --> 00:56:17,547
Speaker 2: on board, and I like them a lot, you know,

1115
00:56:17,667 --> 00:56:20,147
Speaker 2: I like Peter Berling a lot. I like Blair Chook.

1116
00:56:20,227 --> 00:56:22,947
Speaker 2: I like well, Haymous Bond is on there isn't hen't

1117
00:56:22,947 --> 00:56:25,507
Speaker 2: see him's there there cycling Josh Junior of middle these

1118
00:56:25,547 --> 00:56:27,867
Speaker 2: guys and then and they're top men, top lugs, so

1119
00:56:28,107 --> 00:56:29,427
Speaker 2: I want success for them.

1120
00:56:30,547 --> 00:56:32,747
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and that's true. But I just thought it

1121
00:56:32,867 --> 00:56:36,307
Speaker 11: was completely dirty and the handed how he just sort

1122
00:56:36,307 --> 00:56:38,667
Speaker 11: of took it away from New Zealand after and I

1123
00:56:38,747 --> 00:56:40,147
Speaker 11: sort of feel it's a bit of an a front

1124
00:56:40,187 --> 00:56:42,387
Speaker 11: calling it almost Team new Zealand. Now he should call

1125
00:56:42,467 --> 00:56:45,427
Speaker 11: it Team Dalton or something like that really rather than

1126
00:56:45,507 --> 00:56:50,547
Speaker 11: Team New Zealand. Because I've been watching The America's Captains Freemantle,

1127
00:56:50,627 --> 00:56:53,347
Speaker 11: and you know, I was always I've always watched it

1128
00:56:53,467 --> 00:56:55,867
Speaker 11: and enjoyed it, and you know, the whole idea was

1129
00:56:55,907 --> 00:56:57,187
Speaker 11: to bring us back in New Zealand.

1130
00:56:57,267 --> 00:56:59,947
Speaker 22: It's great for the country and tourism, and no one

1131
00:57:00,027 --> 00:57:03,307
Speaker 22: even do that, and for people like myself were just

1132
00:57:03,427 --> 00:57:06,507
Speaker 22: completely disgusting with him that he did that, and you know,

1133
00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:10,427
Speaker 22: I mean, they've taken a line of money over the decade.

1134
00:57:10,427 --> 00:57:13,067
Speaker 22: It's not just the Team Zealand took a lot of

1135
00:57:13,147 --> 00:57:16,587
Speaker 22: money off textayers and council and they've got a lot

1136
00:57:16,627 --> 00:57:19,707
Speaker 22: of help from And I thought he was quite the

1137
00:57:19,787 --> 00:57:21,547
Speaker 22: spoil when he decided to take off.

1138
00:57:22,587 --> 00:57:26,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess he'd say. And I'm sure you've

1139
00:57:26,587 --> 00:57:28,427
Speaker 2: you've you've picked up on this mark. I'm sure he'd

1140
00:57:28,507 --> 00:57:30,587
Speaker 2: say that. You know, he had to because he needed

1141
00:57:30,787 --> 00:57:33,547
Speaker 2: needed the money, you know, needed to you know, he

1142
00:57:33,627 --> 00:57:38,227
Speaker 2: wasn't able to get the investment he needed from from

1143
00:57:38,267 --> 00:57:41,587
Speaker 2: here and therefore had to make the had to make

1144
00:57:41,627 --> 00:57:44,307
Speaker 2: the move offshore to get greater investment over there. I

1145
00:57:44,587 --> 00:57:48,027
Speaker 2: kind of agree. My colleague Adam Cooper, who hosted the

1146
00:57:48,067 --> 00:57:50,747
Speaker 2: All Sport Breakfast yesterday morning, made this point about whether

1147
00:57:50,867 --> 00:57:55,947
Speaker 2: we should still attach a sense of nationalism to Team

1148
00:57:55,987 --> 00:57:58,587
Speaker 2: New Zealand or whether it should just be called Emirates.

1149
00:58:00,227 --> 00:58:04,707
Speaker 2: But like I say, I I have met Peter Berling

1150
00:58:04,747 --> 00:58:06,707
Speaker 2: a couple of times and I really like them. I

1151
00:58:06,867 --> 00:58:09,427
Speaker 2: just like him a lot. I like Blair Chuk, I

1152
00:58:09,587 --> 00:58:13,187
Speaker 2: like Hamish Bond, I like Josh Jr. I like Andy Maloney,

1153
00:58:13,547 --> 00:58:16,507
Speaker 2: all of these sailors who have had the opportunity to

1154
00:58:16,587 --> 00:58:19,427
Speaker 2: chat to on the radio show. I've really liked all

1155
00:58:19,507 --> 00:58:22,307
Speaker 2: of them, and as I've seen a number of times,

1156
00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:25,867
Speaker 2: you want success for people that you like, and I

1157
00:58:26,107 --> 00:58:29,827
Speaker 2: like them, so I hope they win. I don't I

1158
00:58:29,907 --> 00:58:32,667
Speaker 2: don't feel the same way about Team New Zealand as

1159
00:58:32,707 --> 00:58:34,387
Speaker 2: I do about the All Blacks or the Black Ferns

1160
00:58:34,507 --> 00:58:36,507
Speaker 2: or the Black Caps or those other teams. I don't

1161
00:58:36,547 --> 00:58:41,867
Speaker 2: feel a nationalistic attachment to Team New Zealand, but that

1162
00:58:41,947 --> 00:58:46,267
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that I want these these good Kiwis.

1163
00:58:46,227 --> 00:58:46,747
Speaker 8: To do well.

1164
00:58:49,107 --> 00:58:51,387
Speaker 2: One twenty four News talks the b We're back back

1165
00:58:51,427 --> 00:58:52,307
Speaker 2: with more right after.

1166
00:58:52,187 --> 00:58:56,027
Speaker 1: This The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport

1167
00:58:56,427 --> 00:59:00,307
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vine and GJ. Gunner, homes New

1168
00:59:00,387 --> 00:59:01,987
Speaker 1: Zealand's most trusted oh builder.

1169
00:59:02,067 --> 00:59:06,227
Speaker 2: News talks one Succe He's Peter Berling straight afterward or

1170
00:59:06,507 --> 00:59:08,787
Speaker 2: or shortly after the race. Yeah, I mean it was

1171
00:59:08,787 --> 00:59:09,507
Speaker 2: awesome out there.

1172
00:59:10,867 --> 00:59:13,507
Speaker 23: Obviously this morning we went out was pretty light, so

1173
00:59:14,627 --> 00:59:16,067
Speaker 23: we're hoping to get a bit of racing in. I

1174
00:59:16,107 --> 00:59:18,587
Speaker 23: think today's the first say we felt actually ready to

1175
00:59:18,667 --> 00:59:20,827
Speaker 23: go and it was awesome to put down two good performances.

1176
00:59:21,067 --> 00:59:24,267
Speaker 2: Typically understated from Peter Berling. Here's another Pete get i, Pete,

1177
00:59:25,347 --> 00:59:25,747
Speaker 2: there you go.

1178
00:59:25,827 --> 00:59:27,747
Speaker 24: And here we go out in the old Cup. There

1179
00:59:28,387 --> 00:59:30,867
Speaker 24: we went up this time round right, we we do

1180
00:59:31,387 --> 00:59:33,347
Speaker 24: go ahead. But I didn't actually watch it at all

1181
00:59:33,427 --> 00:59:37,027
Speaker 24: the two races in the morning. That's what sort of

1182
00:59:37,067 --> 00:59:39,547
Speaker 24: annoyed me, as what's happened is we've won and it

1183
00:59:39,587 --> 00:59:41,467
Speaker 24: should have been challenged here. And I think most u

1184
00:59:41,547 --> 00:59:44,627
Speaker 24: zingands think the same Grant Dolphin pharaohs. If he doesn't

1185
00:59:44,627 --> 00:59:46,547
Speaker 24: get challenged you next time we win it, he's got

1186
00:59:46,667 --> 00:59:48,387
Speaker 24: to go because all the end of the paraos on

1187
00:59:48,547 --> 00:59:50,187
Speaker 24: and so he might be hating sellingers, but he's hit

1188
00:59:50,267 --> 00:59:51,027
Speaker 24: in the big back end.

1189
00:59:52,307 --> 00:59:55,227
Speaker 2: Thanks Pete. I appreciate your call. Look, I don't think

1190
00:59:55,267 --> 00:59:58,907
Speaker 2: it'll be here next time. I think, let's say that

1191
00:59:58,947 --> 01:00:02,507
Speaker 2: we win it, that we defend it, I don't think

1192
01:00:02,547 --> 01:00:04,747
Speaker 2: it will be back here. That's my gap feel on it.

1193
01:00:06,107 --> 01:00:08,987
Speaker 2: And yes it does. I think quite a bit of

1194
01:00:09,067 --> 01:00:13,827
Speaker 2: emotion when we've defended it and had such great moments

1195
01:00:13,867 --> 01:00:19,187
Speaker 2: defending it in New Zealand. But yeah, I kind of tend,

1196
01:00:19,307 --> 01:00:22,027
Speaker 2: like say, at the moment, to focus on what's happening

1197
01:00:22,107 --> 01:00:24,467
Speaker 2: on the water. I feel like we had the conversation

1198
01:00:24,547 --> 01:00:26,707
Speaker 2: about whether it should be defended here or not defended here,

1199
01:00:26,787 --> 01:00:29,587
Speaker 2: And yes, you are quite within your rights to feel

1200
01:00:29,827 --> 01:00:34,267
Speaker 2: disengaged by it, disenfranchised. Perhaps no one's forcing you to

1201
01:00:34,347 --> 01:00:38,307
Speaker 2: watch it, Absolutely they're not. I tend to, like I say,

1202
01:00:38,347 --> 01:00:41,987
Speaker 2: focus on what happens on the water. And maybe maybe

1203
01:00:42,307 --> 01:00:44,907
Speaker 2: that's a bit nai even roast, In't it? Not separating

1204
01:00:44,947 --> 01:00:47,227
Speaker 2: myself from what's happening out there on the water with

1205
01:00:47,387 --> 01:00:50,027
Speaker 2: what has happened off the water. However, that's the way

1206
01:00:50,107 --> 01:00:54,987
Speaker 2: I tend to approach it. Hello, Jason, Yeah.

1207
01:00:55,547 --> 01:00:57,467
Speaker 25: I'll tell you where I'm at with first, and I

1208
01:00:57,587 --> 01:00:59,067
Speaker 25: agree with you. I think it's time that we just

1209
01:00:59,147 --> 01:01:03,907
Speaker 25: get them behind. If we you can't be disingenious with us.

1210
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:06,107
Speaker 25: If everyone just wants to put it a little bit

1211
01:01:06,147 --> 01:01:09,187
Speaker 25: of the pspective around this grunt Dalton thing. If you

1212
01:01:09,267 --> 01:01:13,387
Speaker 25: look at Nias Pretannia one hundred and fifty million dollars

1213
01:01:13,467 --> 01:01:15,547
Speaker 25: they sunk into this campaign, well it might have been

1214
01:01:15,587 --> 01:01:18,387
Speaker 25: a bit more than that. There is no way in

1215
01:01:18,547 --> 01:01:22,507
Speaker 25: God's Earth if Grant Dalton had have left it made

1216
01:01:22,547 --> 01:01:25,547
Speaker 25: the decision to defend it here, going up against a

1217
01:01:25,627 --> 01:01:28,587
Speaker 25: syndicate that through that amount of money in that we

1218
01:01:28,667 --> 01:01:31,707
Speaker 25: would be anywhere close to getting the achievements we got

1219
01:01:31,787 --> 01:01:33,987
Speaker 25: this morning in terms of those two races. I can

1220
01:01:34,027 --> 01:01:37,907
Speaker 25: tell you that now technology costs enormous sums of money.

1221
01:01:37,987 --> 01:01:40,267
Speaker 25: That this is sort of for our this is formula

1222
01:01:40,387 --> 01:01:42,667
Speaker 25: one on the water and people have got to realize

1223
01:01:42,707 --> 01:01:47,067
Speaker 25: that that. Yes, Grant Dalton's polarizing and all that, but

1224
01:01:47,227 --> 01:01:50,467
Speaker 25: he made the decision. I would rather have us over

1225
01:01:50,587 --> 01:01:53,507
Speaker 25: that side of the world and have Emirates Team New

1226
01:01:53,587 --> 01:01:56,147
Speaker 25: Zealand bantered all around the commentary box like we've got

1227
01:01:56,307 --> 01:01:59,147
Speaker 25: this morning for three and a half hours, then have

1228
01:01:59,267 --> 01:02:03,027
Speaker 25: it here and be embarrassed, because that's exactly what would

1229
01:02:03,027 --> 01:02:05,587
Speaker 25: have happened. We did not have the money to put

1230
01:02:05,667 --> 01:02:08,347
Speaker 25: into this camp pain to keep pace with the likes

1231
01:02:08,427 --> 01:02:11,467
Speaker 25: of the syndicates that that you know, we're in the

1232
01:02:11,827 --> 01:02:14,507
Speaker 25: Louis ver Tan and that's where I've gone a little

1233
01:02:14,547 --> 01:02:15,427
Speaker 25: bit full circle on it.

1234
01:02:16,427 --> 01:02:18,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jose, I don't think you're alone. I don't think

1235
01:02:18,947 --> 01:02:24,867
Speaker 2: you're alone in that. As I say, much as you

1236
01:02:25,107 --> 01:02:29,107
Speaker 2: can agree or disagree with the decision to defend the

1237
01:02:29,147 --> 01:02:33,307
Speaker 2: America's Cup off shore, the decision has been made. It

1238
01:02:33,427 --> 01:02:35,387
Speaker 2: was made a long time ago. We've known this for

1239
01:02:35,467 --> 01:02:37,907
Speaker 2: a long time and we debated it at the time,

1240
01:02:38,387 --> 01:02:40,347
Speaker 2: and like I say, you're quite within your rights to

1241
01:02:40,427 --> 01:02:45,987
Speaker 2: feel put out, annoyed, disengaged, disenfranchised by the whole thing.

1242
01:02:46,267 --> 01:02:52,587
Speaker 2: That is totally your prerogative. Absolutely it is. But if

1243
01:02:52,627 --> 01:02:54,467
Speaker 2: you focus on what's happening on the water, which I mean,

1244
01:02:54,547 --> 01:02:56,187
Speaker 2: this is a sports show. Yes, I know it's news talks,

1245
01:02:56,227 --> 01:02:58,627
Speaker 2: eb I get that. I know we talk about things

1246
01:02:58,987 --> 01:03:01,387
Speaker 2: wider than just the sport, but this is a sports show,

1247
01:03:01,667 --> 01:03:04,547
Speaker 2: so I would prefer to focus on what's what happens

1248
01:03:04,627 --> 01:03:08,987
Speaker 2: on the water other than what has happened off the water.

1249
01:03:10,427 --> 01:03:12,747
Speaker 2: Just one more comment from Peter Berling. What did they

1250
01:03:12,827 --> 01:03:15,707
Speaker 2: learn about inios in the first two races. I think

1251
01:03:15,747 --> 01:03:17,107
Speaker 2: we know the Brits really well.

1252
01:03:17,987 --> 01:03:20,227
Speaker 23: I think we've seen them perform at a really high

1253
01:03:20,267 --> 01:03:24,267
Speaker 23: level throughout the Leuverton Cup Final. Yeah, today was a

1254
01:03:24,347 --> 01:03:25,907
Speaker 23: so shifting dynamic that if you put it in the

1255
01:03:25,987 --> 01:03:28,387
Speaker 23: right place you gained a lot and if you've got

1256
01:03:28,427 --> 01:03:29,307
Speaker 23: it wrong you lost a lot.

1257
01:03:29,387 --> 01:03:30,387
Speaker 7: And we saw that at times.

1258
01:03:30,507 --> 01:03:33,227
Speaker 23: You know, we had that one little change in the

1259
01:03:33,267 --> 01:03:35,947
Speaker 23: middle of the second race, and we're really pleased with

1260
01:03:35,947 --> 01:03:39,027
Speaker 23: the way minister to take on some complicated options and

1261
01:03:39,107 --> 01:03:39,627
Speaker 23: make it stick.

1262
01:03:39,747 --> 01:03:42,467
Speaker 2: There is Peter Berling. Races three and four, as mentioned,

1263
01:03:42,507 --> 01:03:45,467
Speaker 2: are scheduled for tomorrow morning same time, although, as Chris

1264
01:03:45,547 --> 01:03:47,827
Speaker 2: Reeve mentioned to us when we chatted to him, the

1265
01:03:47,947 --> 01:03:52,347
Speaker 2: wind conditions are the forecast anyway not necessarily conducive to racing.

1266
01:03:52,427 --> 01:03:54,467
Speaker 2: But we'll see what happens when they get back out

1267
01:03:54,507 --> 01:03:57,307
Speaker 2: on the water around one o'clock tomorrow morning. New Zealand time,

1268
01:03:57,627 --> 01:04:02,307
Speaker 2: it's nineteen to two week Sport twenty nine to two.

1269
01:04:02,387 --> 01:04:04,227
Speaker 2: That should be I didn't mean to make your panic

1270
01:04:04,267 --> 01:04:06,347
Speaker 2: that you'd lost ten minutes somewhere twenty nine to two

1271
01:04:06,467 --> 01:04:08,907
Speaker 2: to the first NPC semifinal locked in.

1272
01:04:08,987 --> 01:04:09,747
Speaker 5: The time is up.

1273
01:04:10,147 --> 01:04:13,267
Speaker 26: If he says kick it out, he does, it's over way.

1274
01:04:13,427 --> 01:04:17,307
Speaker 26: Can I have made it to the Bummings and PC

1275
01:04:17,667 --> 01:04:24,027
Speaker 26: semi final in a dramatic game at Yarrow Stadium fifteen fourteen.

1276
01:04:23,827 --> 01:04:27,027
Speaker 2: There White Cuddles upset win over Taranaki last night means

1277
01:04:27,147 --> 01:04:29,587
Speaker 2: the Mulu Men will travel to the capital to take

1278
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Speaker 2: on Wellington Friday night. The other semi will feature Bay

1279
01:04:32,907 --> 01:04:36,587
Speaker 2: of Plenty. Their opponent will depend on the results of

1280
01:04:36,987 --> 01:04:40,147
Speaker 2: quarter Final four, which is underway in Blenham at five

1281
01:04:40,227 --> 01:04:44,307
Speaker 2: past two, Tasman hosting Canterbury. If Tasman win, they will

1282
01:04:44,387 --> 01:04:48,627
Speaker 2: host Bay of Plenty. If Canterbury win, Canterbury will travel

1283
01:04:48,667 --> 01:04:52,187
Speaker 2: to the Bay to take on the Steamers. Tasman CEO

1284
01:04:52,427 --> 01:04:57,787
Speaker 2: Steve Mitchell is with us from Lansdowne Park. How's your weather, Steve, Yes, little.

1285
01:04:57,587 --> 01:04:59,347
Speaker 8: To cloudy, but it's some It's a great day for

1286
01:04:59,427 --> 01:05:00,747
Speaker 8: forty good stuff.

1287
01:05:00,867 --> 01:05:02,707
Speaker 2: Was this game always going to be in Blenham rather

1288
01:05:02,787 --> 01:05:03,267
Speaker 2: than Nelson?

1289
01:05:04,467 --> 01:05:04,867
Speaker 8: Correct?

1290
01:05:05,267 --> 01:05:08,827
Speaker 2: Yes, and just what just to share it around the

1291
01:05:08,867 --> 01:05:10,667
Speaker 2: top of the South. Is that the thinking there?

1292
01:05:11,667 --> 01:05:11,827
Speaker 20: Yeah?

1293
01:05:11,947 --> 01:05:14,427
Speaker 8: Yeah, we try and even it up as much as possible.

1294
01:05:15,707 --> 01:05:18,547
Speaker 2: Now you had the shield, Yeah, yeah, sorry Steve, you

1295
01:05:18,627 --> 01:05:20,427
Speaker 2: had the shield. Obviously you had have taken off your

1296
01:05:20,467 --> 01:05:22,827
Speaker 2: last weekend. You get the feeling your boys are doubly

1297
01:05:22,907 --> 01:05:25,507
Speaker 2: determined to go well in the in the playoffs, given

1298
01:05:25,547 --> 01:05:27,347
Speaker 2: the fact that they could notd onto that log last week.

1299
01:05:28,187 --> 01:05:29,747
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it was going to be a tough ask

1300
01:05:30,467 --> 01:05:32,147
Speaker 8: hanging onto the shield of the end of storm week

1301
01:05:32,187 --> 01:05:35,107
Speaker 8: in Taranaki. Were always going to come full noise, which

1302
01:05:35,147 --> 01:05:37,707
Speaker 8: they did to their credit. Yeah, the boys have had

1303
01:05:37,747 --> 01:05:41,547
Speaker 8: a full week of between games, so we're hoping that

1304
01:05:41,587 --> 01:05:44,947
Speaker 8: will be running hard and ready to score to day.

1305
01:05:45,467 --> 01:05:47,347
Speaker 2: All right, Just on the on the shield. I know

1306
01:05:47,427 --> 01:05:49,187
Speaker 2: you would have liked to have kept hold of it

1307
01:05:49,267 --> 01:05:51,827
Speaker 2: over the summer, But how much did you enjoy having

1308
01:05:51,867 --> 01:05:53,387
Speaker 2: it in your region for the first time?

1309
01:05:54,267 --> 01:05:54,387
Speaker 20: Oh?

1310
01:05:54,427 --> 01:05:56,547
Speaker 8: A lot, to be honest. It was bigger than what

1311
01:05:56,667 --> 01:06:00,907
Speaker 8: I anticipated. What it meant for people was quite an

1312
01:06:00,907 --> 01:06:03,987
Speaker 8: eye opener. We took it as far and wide around

1313
01:06:03,987 --> 01:06:06,587
Speaker 8: the community as we could, and the reception it was

1314
01:06:06,707 --> 01:06:09,427
Speaker 8: just amazing. I'm very, very proud and privileged to have

1315
01:06:09,507 --> 01:06:10,507
Speaker 8: it here for a short time.

1316
01:06:11,187 --> 01:06:13,987
Speaker 2: All right, So you now focus on this quarter final

1317
01:06:14,067 --> 01:06:18,067
Speaker 2: this afternoon, I see Ethan Blackadder has been ruled out

1318
01:06:18,107 --> 01:06:20,067
Speaker 2: with a calf niggli picked up in training. Is this

1319
01:06:20,227 --> 01:06:22,867
Speaker 2: kind of precautionary given he's about to head north for

1320
01:06:22,947 --> 01:06:23,387
Speaker 2: All Blacks.

1321
01:06:24,587 --> 01:06:28,867
Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, he wasn't running freely anyway. We're try and

1322
01:06:29,587 --> 01:06:32,667
Speaker 8: have confidence in our whole team, so we just probably

1323
01:06:32,707 --> 01:06:35,667
Speaker 8: best to park him up and give the other lads

1324
01:06:35,667 --> 01:06:36,867
Speaker 8: to run fair enough.

1325
01:06:36,907 --> 01:06:38,827
Speaker 2: And I heard Nullah Hotham has spend a bit crock

1326
01:06:38,867 --> 01:06:40,067
Speaker 2: as well. Has he made it to the game.

1327
01:06:41,467 --> 01:06:44,067
Speaker 8: He was on the team list as as far as

1328
01:06:44,427 --> 01:06:46,227
Speaker 8: this morning. I'm not one hundred percent sure they were

1329
01:06:46,227 --> 01:06:47,827
Speaker 8: going to reassess, but yeah, I think he's just got

1330
01:06:47,867 --> 01:06:51,747
Speaker 8: a blue bug or something. All right, Yeah, this is good.

1331
01:06:51,787 --> 01:06:55,107
Speaker 8: But Phil, he's playing excellently. And give me got Mason

1332
01:06:55,187 --> 01:06:59,947
Speaker 8: lun and young Louis Chapman in a half back role.

1333
01:07:00,067 --> 01:07:01,587
Speaker 8: So yeah, we're pretty well covered.

1334
01:07:02,307 --> 01:07:03,627
Speaker 2: He's got a bit of depth there, haven't You got

1335
01:07:03,627 --> 01:07:05,347
Speaker 2: a couple of couple of your blokes from Noah and

1336
01:07:05,387 --> 01:07:08,027
Speaker 2: Findlay heading off with all fifteen of course after the

1337
01:07:08,107 --> 01:07:09,747
Speaker 2: end of the MPC, So I think you're pretty well

1338
01:07:10,027 --> 01:07:13,267
Speaker 2: pretty well served for halfbacks. And David Harvilly presume he's okay,

1339
01:07:13,427 --> 01:07:14,827
Speaker 2: pretty big influence on your site.

1340
01:07:15,707 --> 01:07:18,067
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, look at yeah, he's he's a soldier from

1341
01:07:18,107 --> 01:07:19,947
Speaker 8: way back. Really, you know, he's got many a man

1342
01:07:20,027 --> 01:07:23,387
Speaker 8: or within the squad. Really miss Quinny Strange.

1343
01:07:23,427 --> 01:07:23,747
Speaker 9: That was.

1344
01:07:25,307 --> 01:07:28,227
Speaker 8: Devastating injury for us as a group. But you know

1345
01:07:28,307 --> 01:07:31,307
Speaker 8: he's still floating around and putting his bitter when he can.

1346
01:07:31,627 --> 01:07:34,827
Speaker 8: But you know, to have David back, yeah, we're pretty

1347
01:07:34,827 --> 01:07:35,267
Speaker 8: happy with that.

1348
01:07:36,187 --> 01:07:38,347
Speaker 2: I guess you also know now, Steve, given the fact

1349
01:07:38,387 --> 01:07:40,987
Speaker 2: that Talanacky lost last night, that if you do win

1350
01:07:41,027 --> 01:07:43,867
Speaker 2: this afternoon, it's a home semi against Bay of Plenty.

1351
01:07:43,987 --> 01:07:46,787
Speaker 2: So how much extra motivation will that give to the team?

1352
01:07:47,427 --> 01:07:49,907
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, the boys. The boys be very very keen

1353
01:07:49,947 --> 01:07:53,547
Speaker 8: to host home semi back and Nelson, So yeah, I'd

1354
01:07:53,587 --> 01:07:55,867
Speaker 8: expect no holds barred and I'll leave it all out

1355
01:07:55,907 --> 01:07:56,627
Speaker 8: on the field today.

1356
01:07:57,587 --> 01:08:00,107
Speaker 2: I reckon. We've always looked at Cannabring and Tasman as

1357
01:08:00,147 --> 01:08:02,707
Speaker 2: sort of a big brother, little brother scenario. But is

1358
01:08:03,627 --> 01:08:06,907
Speaker 2: Tasman now the little brother that's actually better than their

1359
01:08:06,947 --> 01:08:07,347
Speaker 2: big brother?

1360
01:08:08,667 --> 01:08:10,107
Speaker 8: Oh love, God put us on a part of it,

1361
01:08:10,147 --> 01:08:12,307
Speaker 8: and I've got the biggest catchment. I think our programs

1362
01:08:12,307 --> 01:08:14,627
Speaker 8: are very very similar. You know, we run a joint

1363
01:08:14,707 --> 01:08:20,067
Speaker 8: kateemic system. Yeah, look, I don't know. I suppose numbers

1364
01:08:20,267 --> 01:08:23,347
Speaker 8: was we are the little brother, but competitive we where

1365
01:08:24,107 --> 01:08:24,907
Speaker 8: we definitely have a.

1366
01:08:26,427 --> 01:08:28,547
Speaker 2: What sort of crowd you're expecting this afternoon.

1367
01:08:29,507 --> 01:08:31,427
Speaker 8: Hopefully three and a half to four and a.

1368
01:08:31,427 --> 01:08:35,147
Speaker 2: Half A nice nice in PC's been in. PC has

1369
01:08:35,187 --> 01:08:36,467
Speaker 2: been good this year. We had a lot of chat

1370
01:08:36,507 --> 01:08:38,907
Speaker 2: about it on the show yesterday. You know, there's a

1371
01:08:38,947 --> 01:08:41,627
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty about results. You know, teams have have

1372
01:08:42,307 --> 01:08:44,987
Speaker 2: you know, have punched above their weight and and there's

1373
01:08:44,987 --> 01:08:47,107
Speaker 2: a bit of jeopardy around results. Is that what you're

1374
01:08:47,147 --> 01:08:49,107
Speaker 2: feeling like? It's been a pretty good MPC season.

1375
01:08:49,947 --> 01:08:53,187
Speaker 8: Oh completely, looky, you know the last two games and

1376
01:08:53,827 --> 01:08:55,707
Speaker 8: we can't have shown on anybody can win on any

1377
01:08:55,747 --> 01:08:56,227
Speaker 8: given day.

1378
01:08:56,707 --> 01:08:56,827
Speaker 20: You know.

1379
01:08:56,987 --> 01:08:59,947
Speaker 8: Southland's upset in their last round of the competition showed

1380
01:08:59,987 --> 01:09:02,707
Speaker 8: the same thing. So no, I think it's it's the

1381
01:09:02,867 --> 01:09:06,587
Speaker 8: competition at the moment. It's very very exciting and here

1382
01:09:07,027 --> 01:09:09,787
Speaker 8: be tough. If you're a punter, that's for sure, that's right.

1383
01:09:10,187 --> 01:09:11,987
Speaker 2: I guess you could still host a fight, or couldn't you?

1384
01:09:11,987 --> 01:09:13,947
Speaker 2: All though that would mean that my Wellington team would

1385
01:09:13,947 --> 01:09:15,907
Speaker 2: have to lose. Steve, I'm not going to wish that.

1386
01:09:16,187 --> 01:09:17,947
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wish that for you, but yeah, I

1387
01:09:17,987 --> 01:09:20,627
Speaker 2: mean you potentially you could if I kind of tip

1388
01:09:20,707 --> 01:09:21,267
Speaker 2: up Wellington.

1389
01:09:22,147 --> 01:09:24,507
Speaker 8: Yeah, correct, potentially we could and then you know that

1390
01:09:24,547 --> 01:09:25,947
Speaker 8: would make it for losing the shields.

1391
01:09:26,907 --> 01:09:28,907
Speaker 2: Good man. I got on your Steve good to chat

1392
01:09:28,947 --> 01:09:30,787
Speaker 2: on match day with you. Made all the best this afternoon,

1393
01:09:31,507 --> 01:09:33,747
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Thank you all the best. Cheers

1394
01:09:33,747 --> 01:09:36,947
Speaker 2: Bye bye. That's Steve Mitchell, CEO of Tasman. Five past

1395
01:09:36,987 --> 01:09:38,907
Speaker 2: two this afternoon, we've got a commentary on gold Sport

1396
01:09:38,947 --> 01:09:42,587
Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio of that one for you. And yeah, if

1397
01:09:42,627 --> 01:09:46,787
Speaker 2: Tasman win, they will host what they will host Bay

1398
01:09:46,867 --> 01:09:51,707
Speaker 2: of Plenty presumably next Saturday night. If it was to

1399
01:09:51,787 --> 01:09:54,707
Speaker 2: be Canterbury who win this afternoon, then they would travel

1400
01:09:54,747 --> 01:09:56,827
Speaker 2: to Todonga to take on Bay of Plenty. So the

1401
01:09:56,867 --> 01:10:00,227
Speaker 2: Steamers know they're there. They've obviously won their quarter final.

1402
01:10:00,347 --> 01:10:03,307
Speaker 2: They made pretty tough work yesterday to be fair against

1403
01:10:03,347 --> 01:10:05,507
Speaker 2: talks maybe got there at the end. They know they're

1404
01:10:05,547 --> 01:10:07,867
Speaker 2: in the quarter the Semis rather, they just need to

1405
01:10:07,987 --> 01:10:10,507
Speaker 2: find out whether they'll be traveling or whether they will

1406
01:10:10,547 --> 01:10:15,507
Speaker 2: be hosting twenty two away from two all over in

1407
01:10:16,147 --> 01:10:19,307
Speaker 2: Vancouver and the Black Ferns have had a really good

1408
01:10:19,347 --> 01:10:24,107
Speaker 2: finish to the season. It's been a disappointing WXV one

1409
01:10:24,147 --> 01:10:26,787
Speaker 2: competition for them. I think they would absolutely accept that.

1410
01:10:26,987 --> 01:10:30,827
Speaker 2: But thirty nine to fourteen they have beat in France

1411
01:10:30,947 --> 01:10:32,907
Speaker 2: thirty nine to fourteen, a really good finish to the

1412
01:10:32,947 --> 01:10:35,507
Speaker 2: Black Ferns season. Let's hope that they can use that

1413
01:10:35,587 --> 01:10:38,627
Speaker 2: as a spring board into next year and a really

1414
01:10:38,667 --> 01:10:41,347
Speaker 2: good build up towards the World Cup next year when

1415
01:10:41,387 --> 01:10:44,547
Speaker 2: they'll defend the title they won. It'll be tough though

1416
01:10:44,747 --> 01:10:47,307
Speaker 2: over in England. I've read that England team is now.

1417
01:10:47,987 --> 01:10:50,267
Speaker 2: I think they've lost one out of fifty games, and

1418
01:10:50,347 --> 01:10:51,947
Speaker 2: that was that World Cup final when they've downed a

1419
01:10:51,947 --> 01:10:56,667
Speaker 2: fourteen after ten minutes. Incredible consistency that England Roses team.

1420
01:10:56,827 --> 01:11:00,707
Speaker 2: They'll be tough to beat at home next year. Let's

1421
01:11:00,707 --> 01:11:02,507
Speaker 2: get a breakaway when we come back. We're off to

1422
01:11:03,107 --> 01:11:06,267
Speaker 2: James mcconi, who joins us in as regular Sunday slot

1423
01:11:07,667 --> 01:11:08,267
Speaker 2: the Big.

1424
01:11:08,187 --> 01:11:12,787
Speaker 1: Issues on and after Fields Call eighty ten eighty Weekend

1425
01:11:12,867 --> 01:11:16,907
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Fain and GJ. Gunnerhomes, New Zealand's first

1426
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1427
01:11:18,587 --> 01:11:22,667
Speaker 2: Abb eighteen away from two Baptists underway. We'll keep eyes

1428
01:11:22,747 --> 01:11:25,307
Speaker 2: on that for you, as we will on the Bunnings

1429
01:11:25,387 --> 01:11:28,747
Speaker 2: MPC quarterfinal just after two o'clock with Tasman hosting Canterbury

1430
01:11:28,987 --> 01:11:31,147
Speaker 2: in Blenham. James mcconey is here.

1431
01:11:31,227 --> 01:11:34,907
Speaker 9: Hello mate, good a plenty house things, very.

1432
01:11:34,787 --> 01:11:38,267
Speaker 2: Good, couple of good quarterfinals and the Bunnings MPC yesterday.

1433
01:11:38,667 --> 01:11:42,027
Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty nineteen Hawks Bay seventeen. So Bay of

1434
01:11:42,107 --> 01:11:43,347
Speaker 2: Plenty are the real Bay?

1435
01:11:43,827 --> 01:11:44,147
Speaker 20: Are they?

1436
01:11:45,187 --> 01:11:45,347
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1437
01:11:45,387 --> 01:11:48,947
Speaker 9: Apparently they're the real Bay? Sing it you from the

1438
01:11:48,987 --> 01:11:52,987
Speaker 9: mountaintops from Mount Manga Nui. It is they other Bay

1439
01:11:53,187 --> 01:11:56,947
Speaker 9: and two cliffhangers, really, but that one there when you

1440
01:11:57,067 --> 01:11:59,867
Speaker 9: see how good Hawks Bay are in terms of personnel,

1441
01:11:59,907 --> 01:12:03,387
Speaker 9: and obviously Harry Godfrey is scoring an absolute worldy of

1442
01:12:03,467 --> 01:12:06,827
Speaker 9: a try. I saw your tweet saying lock for the

1443
01:12:07,667 --> 01:12:10,707
Speaker 9: number fifteen Jersey for the Canes with Ruben Love at ten,

1444
01:12:10,827 --> 01:12:14,027
Speaker 9: But what about a Switcherroud? What about Godbury at ten

1445
01:12:14,067 --> 01:12:16,387
Speaker 9: where he played all of schoolboy rugby for Want and

1446
01:12:16,427 --> 01:12:17,147
Speaker 9: New Collegiate.

1447
01:12:17,707 --> 01:12:19,747
Speaker 2: You're not the first person to suggest that, James, I

1448
01:12:19,827 --> 01:12:21,627
Speaker 2: must say, after I did tweet that out, people see

1449
01:12:21,627 --> 01:12:25,227
Speaker 2: you and I'll flip them around. Ruben Love obviously has

1450
01:12:25,267 --> 01:12:27,907
Speaker 2: played mainly at fifteen I think, in fact, almost exclusively

1451
01:12:27,987 --> 01:12:30,987
Speaker 2: at fifteen for the Hurricanes. Yeah, I had heard that

1452
01:12:31,067 --> 01:12:33,227
Speaker 2: Harry Godfrey was a fairly handy ten as well.

1453
01:12:34,707 --> 01:12:36,227
Speaker 9: Yeah, so it could go that way. But it was

1454
01:12:36,267 --> 01:12:39,907
Speaker 9: actually good to see the Steamers, you know, just get

1455
01:12:39,947 --> 01:12:42,267
Speaker 9: it done in at home. I love that boutique ground

1456
01:12:42,307 --> 01:12:44,147
Speaker 9: at the Toad and at the main But of course

1457
01:12:44,147 --> 01:12:47,907
Speaker 9: for me Piney big game was Tadanaki versus my Mulus

1458
01:12:48,067 --> 01:12:51,467
Speaker 9: and oh my goodness, just the absolute game of two

1459
01:12:51,547 --> 01:12:54,307
Speaker 9: halves by the way to show on Thursday nights on

1460
01:12:54,867 --> 01:12:57,747
Speaker 9: Sky Open if you're interested. But it's just one of

1461
01:12:57,787 --> 01:13:01,627
Speaker 9: those ones where I thought, Tardanaki, we're going to get that.

1462
01:13:01,787 --> 01:13:03,867
Speaker 9: They just look so strong in the second half and

1463
01:13:04,747 --> 01:13:06,827
Speaker 9: how much it meant to them. Did you see Ricky

1464
01:13:06,907 --> 01:13:10,067
Speaker 9: rica Telli joking back the tears in the postmatch interview.

1465
01:13:10,627 --> 01:13:12,627
Speaker 9: It's awesome to see really that much feeling.

1466
01:13:13,227 --> 01:13:15,787
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree. And it was a yeah,

1467
01:13:15,827 --> 01:13:17,907
Speaker 2: weird old game was what why I do? Fifteen mill

1468
01:13:17,987 --> 01:13:21,587
Speaker 2: ahead with about thirty minutes to go, but then Toderneckey

1469
01:13:21,627 --> 01:13:23,867
Speaker 2: brought it back to what fifteen fourteen? They were still

1470
01:13:23,947 --> 01:13:26,027
Speaker 2: twenty to go. I actually thought they were going to

1471
01:13:26,107 --> 01:13:27,867
Speaker 2: run over the top of you guys, but no.

1472
01:13:29,347 --> 01:13:32,307
Speaker 9: Well innovative player as well from Barnsey the coach down there,

1473
01:13:32,387 --> 01:13:34,747
Speaker 9: Neil Barnes having two half backs on the field so

1474
01:13:34,787 --> 01:13:37,827
Speaker 9: they could pick and go quicker then or you know,

1475
01:13:37,947 --> 01:13:41,707
Speaker 9: recycle the ball fast. It was incredible stuff. I love

1476
01:13:41,787 --> 01:13:45,267
Speaker 9: to see it. Bradley Slater, who looks like a traditional

1477
01:13:45,307 --> 01:13:48,267
Speaker 9: set of hooker with a little deaf chip and chase.

1478
01:13:48,507 --> 01:13:50,987
Speaker 9: There was just a lot of things happening that were

1479
01:13:51,507 --> 01:13:54,267
Speaker 9: kind of quite strange, but I thought maybe what you

1480
01:13:54,347 --> 01:13:56,547
Speaker 9: could put it down to is Aaron Crude and the

1481
01:13:56,587 --> 01:14:00,507
Speaker 9: old Master running the cutter really nicely and maybe showing

1482
01:14:00,667 --> 01:14:05,027
Speaker 9: Josh Jacob how to sort of win a game against

1483
01:14:05,067 --> 01:14:08,547
Speaker 9: all odds, you know, just controlling the game at number ten.

1484
01:14:09,587 --> 01:14:12,187
Speaker 2: Now, do you stay with me on this analogy? Do

1485
01:14:12,267 --> 01:14:16,027
Speaker 2: you think that Canterbury feel a bit like Nathan McCullum

1486
01:14:16,147 --> 01:14:18,307
Speaker 2: now and that they were a good cricketer growing up,

1487
01:14:18,427 --> 01:14:22,307
Speaker 2: or Nathan was and then their younger brother Brendan came

1488
01:14:22,387 --> 01:14:24,907
Speaker 2: through and just sort of usurped everything you'd done. Do

1489
01:14:24,947 --> 01:14:26,987
Speaker 2: you think Canterbury feel that way about Tasman?

1490
01:14:27,747 --> 01:14:31,387
Speaker 9: Oh good analogy? Yeah, well they must do. But now

1491
01:14:31,627 --> 01:14:33,947
Speaker 9: the problem is when you're a city where you're the

1492
01:14:34,067 --> 01:14:37,147
Speaker 9: home base for another team. I either Crusaders, they succeed

1493
01:14:37,707 --> 01:14:38,427
Speaker 9: so much.

1494
01:14:38,427 --> 01:14:38,827
Speaker 3: You can.

1495
01:14:40,307 --> 01:14:42,427
Speaker 9: It's the danger of just flying under the raidar not

1496
01:14:42,547 --> 01:14:45,067
Speaker 9: actually being noticed, you know, like you could probably win

1497
01:14:45,107 --> 01:14:49,827
Speaker 9: an NPC and only get a smattering of fans around

1498
01:14:50,107 --> 01:14:53,627
Speaker 9: the stadium. So that's probably just living in the shadow

1499
01:14:53,787 --> 01:14:57,347
Speaker 9: of Razor's era with the Crusaders hasn't helped them either,

1500
01:14:57,787 --> 01:14:59,867
Speaker 9: And you know what it's like with Super Rugby. They

1501
01:14:59,987 --> 01:15:03,107
Speaker 9: just get players from wherever, you know, like Raiser used

1502
01:15:03,147 --> 01:15:06,867
Speaker 9: to scour their landscape. Remember feu kam will come on Douglas.

1503
01:15:07,267 --> 01:15:10,147
Speaker 9: Yes it was a White Countil captain. So this is

1504
01:15:10,227 --> 01:15:14,347
Speaker 9: what happens at Super Rugby. And I think the Tasman

1505
01:15:14,427 --> 01:15:19,147
Speaker 9: has really bolstered that Crusaders a region and made them

1506
01:15:19,227 --> 01:15:21,387
Speaker 9: so great, so they can take credit there yet. But

1507
01:15:21,467 --> 01:15:25,347
Speaker 9: it is tough for them because I think every side

1508
01:15:25,467 --> 01:15:28,347
Speaker 9: wants to beat Canterbury because they've been the standard bearer,

1509
01:15:28,467 --> 01:15:29,587
Speaker 9: the benchmark for so long.

1510
01:15:30,227 --> 01:15:32,947
Speaker 2: Indeed, other matters around are black Ferns thirty nine to

1511
01:15:33,027 --> 01:15:35,267
Speaker 2: fourteen winners over France. It's a good end to what's

1512
01:15:35,347 --> 01:15:38,707
Speaker 2: been I think by their standards are fairly mediocre WXV

1513
01:15:38,867 --> 01:15:39,907
Speaker 2: one campaign.

1514
01:15:41,107 --> 01:15:43,467
Speaker 9: Yeah, it has been tough for them and I actually

1515
01:15:43,867 --> 01:15:46,707
Speaker 9: they played really well. To watch them against France just

1516
01:15:46,827 --> 01:15:50,147
Speaker 9: now on that you know, the artificial turf, which is

1517
01:15:50,187 --> 01:15:53,267
Speaker 9: always weird and awkward, but anyway, it was a comfortable

1518
01:15:53,387 --> 01:15:57,107
Speaker 9: within the end. But what I thought was good for

1519
01:15:57,227 --> 01:15:59,187
Speaker 9: them is that they actually got a bit of heat

1520
01:15:59,267 --> 01:16:02,747
Speaker 9: from the media and the public and what that means

1521
01:16:02,787 --> 01:16:05,027
Speaker 9: is that people care about them deeply. You've got to

1522
01:16:05,107 --> 01:16:07,387
Speaker 9: wear that as a badge of honor, because you know

1523
01:16:07,467 --> 01:16:09,947
Speaker 9: what it's like when the callers are just all talking

1524
01:16:09,947 --> 01:16:13,987
Speaker 9: about the All Blacks or the or the Black Caps.

1525
01:16:14,347 --> 01:16:18,467
Speaker 9: But suddenly when people start to take notice and argue

1526
01:16:18,467 --> 01:16:21,427
Speaker 9: about who should be playing ten for the Black Ferns,

1527
01:16:21,507 --> 01:16:24,027
Speaker 9: you know, all they need is to have a really

1528
01:16:24,067 --> 01:16:26,227
Speaker 9: good number eight who's been left out, and maybe for

1529
01:16:26,387 --> 01:16:29,267
Speaker 9: the coach to be scrutinized just as much. And you're

1530
01:16:29,307 --> 01:16:32,387
Speaker 9: getting towards, you know, in the conversation, like the All

1531
01:16:32,427 --> 01:16:33,467
Speaker 9: Blacks so good.

1532
01:16:33,347 --> 01:16:36,547
Speaker 2: On yep, I totally agree. It's engagement, isn't it. You know,

1533
01:16:36,667 --> 01:16:41,067
Speaker 2: it's not getting talked about. Is worse, isn't it? You

1534
01:16:41,107 --> 01:16:44,107
Speaker 2: know if people didn't really care, you know that that's

1535
01:16:44,187 --> 01:16:46,267
Speaker 2: way worse. People are engaged, I think in this team,

1536
01:16:46,307 --> 01:16:48,787
Speaker 2: and that happens at the back end of what twenty

1537
01:16:48,867 --> 01:16:50,467
Speaker 2: twenty two when they won the World Cup, and it

1538
01:16:50,587 --> 01:16:52,467
Speaker 2: has continued and I think we will follow them with

1539
01:16:52,987 --> 01:16:55,707
Speaker 2: great interest next year as they try to, you know,

1540
01:16:55,827 --> 01:16:58,707
Speaker 2: try and win it again America's Cup. How are you

1541
01:16:58,707 --> 01:16:59,987
Speaker 2: feeling about the America's Cup.

1542
01:17:01,387 --> 01:17:04,067
Speaker 9: I'm feeling bullish about it. I'm enjoying the fact that

1543
01:17:04,787 --> 01:17:08,267
Speaker 9: our boat looks quite fast, which is I remember, didn't

1544
01:17:08,267 --> 01:17:10,467
Speaker 9: that happen in San Francisco? Remember that?

1545
01:17:10,627 --> 01:17:16,067
Speaker 6: I still I'm not it was, Yeah, that was.

1546
01:17:16,787 --> 01:17:20,667
Speaker 2: I mean, it has to be one of the I

1547
01:17:20,747 --> 01:17:23,227
Speaker 2: guess the most. I don't even know what the right

1548
01:17:23,267 --> 01:17:25,787
Speaker 2: adjective is, but like eight one ahead and you lose

1549
01:17:25,867 --> 01:17:29,467
Speaker 2: nine to eight, I don't, I don't. Yeah, outrageous is good.

1550
01:17:29,467 --> 01:17:32,067
Speaker 2: I don't know the word choke necessarily because there's no there,

1551
01:17:32,267 --> 01:17:34,427
Speaker 2: no way they were out there, you know, doing the

1552
01:17:34,507 --> 01:17:38,187
Speaker 2: wrong things. It's just yeah, Jimmy Spittle just found a way,

1553
01:17:38,427 --> 01:17:40,747
Speaker 2: found a way. Hey, now next week. I just got

1554
01:17:40,947 --> 01:17:43,627
Speaker 2: word yesterday that I might be doing the show next

1555
01:17:43,667 --> 01:17:47,147
Speaker 2: Saturday from Mount Smart when Auckland FC have their opening

1556
01:17:47,227 --> 01:17:50,747
Speaker 2: game of the of the of their life against Brisbane.

1557
01:17:50,787 --> 01:17:52,067
Speaker 2: Are you going to be along at this game?

1558
01:17:52,987 --> 01:17:55,627
Speaker 9: Look, I can't make it. I'm working at a charity

1559
01:17:55,667 --> 01:17:59,787
Speaker 9: event down in the White Couttle, but I will be

1560
01:18:00,027 --> 01:18:02,867
Speaker 9: following it all the way. I've been at Auckland their

1561
01:18:02,987 --> 01:18:05,387
Speaker 9: c trainings, have been doing stories with the players, have

1562
01:18:05,507 --> 01:18:12,187
Speaker 9: met gjm or May from Uruguay, who is completely perplexed

1563
01:18:12,267 --> 01:18:15,107
Speaker 9: by the unpredictable Auckland weather, and I had to say

1564
01:18:15,147 --> 01:18:18,067
Speaker 9: to him. Sorry, Yemo, it's not going to get much

1565
01:18:18,107 --> 01:18:21,227
Speaker 9: better for you. It's always four seasons in one day

1566
01:18:22,227 --> 01:18:26,307
Speaker 9: for most of the year, so you cannot plan for anything.

1567
01:18:26,387 --> 01:18:29,187
Speaker 9: But look, I've just named another player as well, a

1568
01:18:29,307 --> 01:18:33,107
Speaker 9: Colombian winger called Nada Moreno. I don't know any of

1569
01:18:33,147 --> 01:18:35,587
Speaker 9: these players, Pineyer, I will be honest, Okay, I don't

1570
01:18:35,667 --> 01:18:38,987
Speaker 9: know any of the imports. But just by doing a

1571
01:18:39,027 --> 01:18:41,987
Speaker 9: little bit of research you find that they've actually scoured

1572
01:18:42,027 --> 01:18:45,587
Speaker 9: the globe rather nicely to get those players and to

1573
01:18:45,667 --> 01:18:48,787
Speaker 9: fit with some fairly well established Kiwi names, you know,

1574
01:18:48,907 --> 01:18:53,067
Speaker 9: with Alex Paulson and Gold Tommy Smith, Nando Payneker in

1575
01:18:53,147 --> 01:18:56,627
Speaker 9: the center of defense. So look, there is what you

1576
01:18:56,827 --> 01:19:00,907
Speaker 9: call maybe a spine of Kiwi players. But the biggest

1577
01:19:00,947 --> 01:19:04,387
Speaker 9: signing really is a Japanese player called Horki Sakai, who

1578
01:19:04,427 --> 01:19:07,587
Speaker 9: played in three World Cups, including the upset victory over

1579
01:19:07,707 --> 01:19:10,707
Speaker 9: Germany in the last World Cup, which is a massive boilover.

1580
01:19:10,867 --> 01:19:14,427
Speaker 9: So this guy is a genuine star superstar played for Marseille.

1581
01:19:14,867 --> 01:19:18,907
Speaker 9: So look, they've done quite well and thoroughly enjoy being

1582
01:19:18,947 --> 01:19:23,107
Speaker 9: around Aukland, their sea, and they've even met their answer

1583
01:19:23,187 --> 01:19:26,227
Speaker 9: to yellow fever the fan base known as the Port.

1584
01:19:27,547 --> 01:19:29,467
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them in action. They've

1585
01:19:29,507 --> 01:19:30,867
Speaker 2: sold out. I think they're going to solve the whole

1586
01:19:30,867 --> 01:19:32,827
Speaker 2: ground out, but they've so they sold out the Port

1587
01:19:32,907 --> 01:19:36,707
Speaker 2: section fairly early. What's their version of shirts off after

1588
01:19:36,787 --> 01:19:38,907
Speaker 2: eighty minutes going to because they can't do the same thing.

1589
01:19:39,027 --> 01:19:40,947
Speaker 2: Have they got their thing or will that? Do you

1590
01:19:41,027 --> 01:19:43,067
Speaker 2: think develop organically as they.

1591
01:19:43,027 --> 01:19:46,467
Speaker 9: Say, I'm assuming it will be pants down, you know.

1592
01:19:46,667 --> 01:19:49,547
Speaker 9: I think that has to be the opposite of the phoenix,

1593
01:19:50,147 --> 01:19:52,387
Speaker 9: so we will see pants on the ground.

1594
01:19:52,467 --> 01:19:52,547
Speaker 13: Now.

1595
01:19:52,547 --> 01:19:53,947
Speaker 9: I don't know piney, I think.

1596
01:19:54,947 --> 01:19:56,347
Speaker 2: But I haven't.

1597
01:19:56,587 --> 01:19:58,947
Speaker 9: Look, I've been writing songs for them. They haven't actually

1598
01:19:58,947 --> 01:20:01,147
Speaker 9: asked me to contribute at all, but you know, I've

1599
01:20:01,267 --> 01:20:03,947
Speaker 9: just thought, hey, look I'm keen to get on the

1600
01:20:04,027 --> 01:20:08,227
Speaker 9: song sheets somehow. And I was thinking, you've got Nando pymakers,

1601
01:20:08,307 --> 01:20:11,707
Speaker 9: So straight away, you know, it's like can you clear

1602
01:20:11,827 --> 01:20:14,867
Speaker 9: the ball pres Nando? You know, like Ebba, you know

1603
01:20:16,307 --> 01:20:20,027
Speaker 9: he was in the air that night the stars were

1604
01:20:20,107 --> 01:20:22,707
Speaker 9: bright and Nando, you know like that kind of thing.

1605
01:20:22,867 --> 01:20:26,867
Speaker 2: You're right, I'm absolutely on board with that sort of thing.

1606
01:20:27,147 --> 01:20:28,747
Speaker 2: Look much as much as I much as I'm a

1607
01:20:28,787 --> 01:20:31,547
Speaker 2: little bit hesitant to endorse anything ever have done. When

1608
01:20:31,547 --> 01:20:34,067
Speaker 2: you put it alongside a football chat, I'm actually on

1609
01:20:34,187 --> 01:20:34,627
Speaker 2: board with it.

1610
01:20:35,707 --> 01:20:37,147
Speaker 9: I know if you're sing it in a tough way,

1611
01:20:37,227 --> 01:20:41,667
Speaker 9: EBBA can be tough. Okay, do it right like a

1612
01:20:41,747 --> 01:20:43,627
Speaker 9: gigser why not?

1613
01:20:44,067 --> 01:20:44,507
Speaker 2: Why not?

1614
01:20:45,067 --> 01:20:45,227
Speaker 13: Hey?

1615
01:20:45,387 --> 01:20:47,147
Speaker 2: Just before you go, do you keep eyes on Major

1616
01:20:47,227 --> 01:20:49,587
Speaker 2: League Baseball? I think it might be getting a little

1617
01:20:49,587 --> 01:20:50,067
Speaker 2: bit interesting.

1618
01:20:51,067 --> 01:20:54,307
Speaker 9: It is getting interesting, and so is American collegiate football

1619
01:20:54,347 --> 01:20:56,907
Speaker 9: allways on America at the moment, because the NBA even

1620
01:20:56,987 --> 01:20:59,067
Speaker 9: starts next week to start to walk on the sea,

1621
01:20:59,107 --> 01:21:02,827
Speaker 9: give well, you know, launch into life. So at the

1622
01:21:02,947 --> 01:21:07,227
Speaker 9: moment that the October, so it's playoffs, and wouldn't it

1623
01:21:07,267 --> 01:21:10,907
Speaker 9: be amazing if it was, if it could be hoctually.

1624
01:21:10,907 --> 01:21:12,947
Speaker 9: I'm not sure of the different leagues, but can you

1625
01:21:13,027 --> 01:21:14,667
Speaker 9: have Yankees Dodges? I'm not sure.

1626
01:21:15,187 --> 01:21:16,547
Speaker 8: Tell me Pioney right now.

1627
01:21:16,667 --> 01:21:20,627
Speaker 9: But there is Shohe Tahanay and Aaron Judge, who are

1628
01:21:20,667 --> 01:21:24,867
Speaker 9: two big stars helping the sport. That is really a

1629
01:21:25,067 --> 01:21:28,387
Speaker 9: bit of a doul drums if you look at the numbers,

1630
01:21:28,427 --> 01:21:31,027
Speaker 9: it hasn't been good for sport. And maybe that's a

1631
01:21:31,107 --> 01:21:34,547
Speaker 9: discussion for another day. And I always say with sport. Well, yeah,

1632
01:21:34,667 --> 01:21:38,067
Speaker 9: there are other interests. People get distracted, kids are gaming,

1633
01:21:38,227 --> 01:21:41,427
Speaker 9: whatever it is. But then I look population wise. The

1634
01:21:41,507 --> 01:21:44,587
Speaker 9: population of the world at ninety eighty seven was five

1635
01:21:44,667 --> 01:21:47,747
Speaker 9: billion and now it's eight billion, So he's no excuse

1636
01:21:47,827 --> 01:21:50,427
Speaker 9: for sports. Is there really plenty of people out there, Pony?

1637
01:21:50,667 --> 01:21:54,267
Speaker 2: They're everywhere you look, everywhere you look, there are people,

1638
01:21:54,387 --> 01:21:57,787
Speaker 2: well most places anyway, James, enjoy your week. Let's chat

1639
01:21:57,827 --> 01:21:58,587
Speaker 2: again next Sunday.

1640
01:21:59,467 --> 01:22:01,107
Speaker 9: All right, cheers, Piney, take care of mate.

1641
01:22:01,387 --> 01:22:17,947
Speaker 2: You take care too, James. A behavi yourself, Andy. I

1642
01:22:18,027 --> 01:22:22,307
Speaker 2: wonder how Nando Pinnika would feel about being aligned to

1643
01:22:22,467 --> 01:22:26,147
Speaker 2: Fernando by Abba. Maybe he'll find out the port might

1644
01:22:26,267 --> 01:22:28,947
Speaker 2: sing it to him. Looking forward to broadcasting Life from

1645
01:22:29,307 --> 01:22:32,227
Speaker 2: Go Media Mount Smart next Saturday, head of the opening

1646
01:22:32,267 --> 01:22:33,507
Speaker 2: game for Auckland FC seven or.

1647
01:22:33,507 --> 01:22:37,587
Speaker 1: Two, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1648
01:22:37,667 --> 01:22:41,747
Speaker 1: world Weekends for It with Jason Vaib Call hundred eighty

1649
01:22:42,387 --> 01:22:45,027
Speaker 1: news talks four to two, ten.

1650
01:22:45,187 --> 01:22:47,587
Speaker 2: Of one hundred and sixty one laps gone at Mount

1651
01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:51,027
Speaker 2: Panorama for Bathhurst the Great Race, Brodie Casticki Leeds from

1652
01:22:51,067 --> 01:22:53,027
Speaker 2: brock Feenie Richie stand Away. The first of the key

1653
01:22:53,187 --> 01:22:56,427
Speaker 2: was in third place. Matt Payne is currently tenth, andre

1654
01:22:56,587 --> 01:23:00,307
Speaker 2: Heimgartner fourteenth as iron my eye down the Alita board,

1655
01:23:00,307 --> 01:23:02,227
Speaker 2: but only ten of one hundred and sixty one laps gone.

1656
01:23:02,547 --> 01:23:05,947
Speaker 2: A lot of racing become at Mount Panorama after two o'clock.

1657
01:23:06,827 --> 01:23:11,387
Speaker 2: Matt Winter, coach of Mid Canterbury. Yesterday they beat South Canterbury,

1658
01:23:11,547 --> 01:23:15,587
Speaker 2: who had won their previous thirty nine games. Incredible stuff

1659
01:23:15,627 --> 01:23:18,267
Speaker 2: Mid Canterbury right after two The.

1660
01:23:18,387 --> 01:23:23,187
Speaker 1: Only plays for the big names, the big issues, the

1661
01:23:23,307 --> 01:23:28,547
Speaker 1: big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on Weekend

1662
01:23:28,627 --> 01:23:33,027
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport News Talks.

1663
01:23:33,067 --> 01:23:37,507
Speaker 2: It'd been two six one more hour Weekend Sport for

1664
01:23:37,587 --> 01:23:39,547
Speaker 2: today and then we handed over to Tim Beverage for

1665
01:23:39,747 --> 01:23:43,987
Speaker 2: the weekend Collective. We'll keep eyes on Bunnings NPC quarter

1666
01:23:44,067 --> 01:23:48,107
Speaker 2: Final number four from Lansdowne Park, Blenham, Tasman and Canterbury

1667
01:23:48,187 --> 01:23:51,587
Speaker 2: going head to head just underway, no score after sixty

1668
01:23:51,707 --> 01:23:55,907
Speaker 2: seconds so far. This hour going to hear from both

1669
01:23:55,947 --> 01:23:59,747
Speaker 2: head coaches of the two New Zealand based A League sides.

1670
01:23:59,827 --> 01:24:03,507
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix head coach John Caloertelliano's on the show ass

1671
01:24:04,147 --> 01:24:08,947
Speaker 2: Auckland FC's inaugural coach, Steve Coricker. They are six days

1672
01:24:09,027 --> 01:24:13,587
Speaker 2: away from their A League's debut against Brisbane raw Go

1673
01:24:13,707 --> 01:24:18,307
Speaker 2: Media Mount Smart Saturday from five o'clock the show will

1674
01:24:18,347 --> 01:24:20,187
Speaker 2: come to you. That's Weekend Sport will come to you

1675
01:24:20,227 --> 01:24:23,267
Speaker 2: from Mount Smart next Saturday ahead of that game. So

1676
01:24:23,347 --> 01:24:26,027
Speaker 2: Steve Coricker and Jianculo are Taliana on the show. Very

1677
01:24:26,067 --> 01:24:29,267
Speaker 2: shortly Matt Winter, who is the head coach of Mid

1678
01:24:29,387 --> 01:24:35,027
Speaker 2: Canterbury who yesterday brought to an end the longest winning

1679
01:24:35,107 --> 01:24:38,907
Speaker 2: streak in New Zealand provinci or rugby history beating South

1680
01:24:38,947 --> 01:24:40,787
Speaker 2: Canterbury and the Meats Cup semi finals. We'll check them

1681
01:24:40,827 --> 01:24:44,427
Speaker 2: with Matt Winter and also keep eyes on Mount Panorama

1682
01:24:44,467 --> 01:24:47,347
Speaker 2: where the bath Furst one thousand is going on there

1683
01:24:47,387 --> 01:24:49,907
Speaker 2: through fifteen of one hundred and sixty one laps. Brodie

1684
01:24:49,907 --> 01:24:54,267
Speaker 2: Castecki Leeds from brock Feenie Ritchie Stanaway is still in

1685
01:24:54,387 --> 01:24:56,147
Speaker 2: the third place, but we'll keep eyes on that for

1686
01:24:56,307 --> 01:24:59,267
Speaker 2: you as well. But as we approach eight past two,

1687
01:24:59,427 --> 01:25:01,587
Speaker 2: as we always do at around about this time on

1688
01:25:01,987 --> 01:25:04,067
Speaker 2: Weeken Sport, it is time to bring you up to

1689
01:25:04,147 --> 01:25:07,027
Speaker 2: date with the stuff that you may have missed. Anny

1690
01:25:07,107 --> 01:25:11,627
Speaker 2: McDonald's always has been slaving away at this feature. It's

1691
01:25:11,667 --> 01:25:13,627
Speaker 2: called in case you missed it, And again it's been

1692
01:25:14,147 --> 01:25:17,427
Speaker 2: happy hunting for our white ferns at the Women's T

1693
01:25:17,627 --> 01:25:21,867
Speaker 2: twenty cricket World Carver. First six of.

1694
01:25:22,107 --> 01:25:26,147
Speaker 3: This match will be the last six of the contest,

1695
01:25:27,827 --> 01:25:30,747
Speaker 3: and quite predictably, it's come off the bat of Silvery

1696
01:25:30,747 --> 01:25:34,627
Speaker 3: Divine the captain and it takes New Zealand to a win,

1697
01:25:35,427 --> 01:25:39,947
Speaker 3: a desperately needed win by eight wickets Uva Sri Lanka.

1698
01:25:40,467 --> 01:25:42,907
Speaker 2: I'm not actually sure it was a desperately needed one,

1699
01:25:42,987 --> 01:25:45,547
Speaker 2: to be honest. I've already beaten India, lost of Australia.

1700
01:25:45,627 --> 01:25:48,827
Speaker 2: But the White Ferns have their destiny in their own

1701
01:25:48,907 --> 01:25:52,387
Speaker 2: hands with one group game to play to Utah. Ryan

1702
01:25:52,507 --> 01:25:56,707
Speaker 2: Fox scraping into the third round at the PGA Black

1703
01:25:57,027 --> 01:25:58,387
Speaker 2: Desert Championship.

1704
01:25:58,627 --> 01:26:02,307
Speaker 5: Ryan Fox at fifteen put down a two on the

1705
01:26:02,387 --> 01:26:03,147
Speaker 5: car nice.

1706
01:26:03,067 --> 01:26:05,987
Speaker 2: Verdie and bounce back with a three hundred path third round.

1707
01:26:05,987 --> 01:26:08,267
Speaker 2: He is in a high for fiftieth closer to home

1708
01:26:08,347 --> 01:26:12,227
Speaker 2: and upset in the NPCs quarterfinals.

1709
01:26:11,667 --> 01:26:13,587
Speaker 26: Charges and taking a tackle though back to the open

1710
01:26:13,627 --> 01:26:14,107
Speaker 26: side right now.

1711
01:26:14,107 --> 01:26:15,507
Speaker 27: I switched clud and getting our chances.

1712
01:26:15,547 --> 01:26:16,627
Speaker 5: Every whitecado away.

1713
01:26:16,627 --> 01:26:18,947
Speaker 26: It goes to Norris and I'm on the right hand

1714
01:26:19,027 --> 01:26:19,827
Speaker 26: wing and it's a try.

1715
01:26:19,947 --> 01:26:20,787
Speaker 2: The mathis railer on.

1716
01:26:20,867 --> 01:26:22,427
Speaker 27: The mathis on the right wing.

1717
01:26:22,547 --> 01:26:24,747
Speaker 26: They had the numbers on the canal. Have stort their second.

1718
01:26:25,427 --> 01:26:27,347
Speaker 26: The visitors have come to play tonight.

1719
01:26:27,547 --> 01:26:31,907
Speaker 2: And they won Waikato, upending the defending champion taranucky side.

1720
01:26:32,427 --> 01:26:35,987
Speaker 2: And earlier yesterday, the Battle of the Bays certainly lived

1721
01:26:36,067 --> 01:26:36,747
Speaker 2: up to its hype.

1722
01:26:36,867 --> 01:26:41,787
Speaker 19: It's Colossi at the backs, hustling forward three minutes, two minutes,

1723
01:26:41,947 --> 01:26:42,347
Speaker 19: one meter.

1724
01:26:42,547 --> 01:26:43,707
Speaker 5: Can they get the ball down?

1725
01:26:44,307 --> 01:26:45,027
Speaker 27: Yes they can?

1726
01:26:46,027 --> 01:26:47,187
Speaker 5: Oh pay a plenty?

1727
01:26:48,267 --> 01:26:52,307
Speaker 7: Have they pinched this back to trast trust it to touch.

1728
01:26:52,267 --> 01:26:55,467
Speaker 5: And pay a plenty of heading to the semifinals and.

1729
01:26:55,587 --> 01:26:59,747
Speaker 2: A dramatic finish at this morning's NASCAR Exfinity race, a

1730
01:26:59,907 --> 01:27:03,827
Speaker 2: podium just not quite enough for Shane van Gisberg and

1731
01:27:03,907 --> 01:27:05,547
Speaker 2: to advance in the playoff series.

1732
01:27:06,507 --> 01:27:10,267
Speaker 19: SPG has the advantage and a tiebreaker if those two

1733
01:27:10,587 --> 01:27:13,227
Speaker 19: end tied in the points.

1734
01:27:13,467 --> 01:27:14,907
Speaker 5: SPG has the advantage.

1735
01:27:15,147 --> 01:27:18,427
Speaker 19: Now Love has gained a position into the final turn

1736
01:27:18,427 --> 01:27:19,547
Speaker 19: of the sixteen.

1737
01:27:19,187 --> 01:27:21,827
Speaker 2: Every one Sam Mayer is gonna win at the role bar.

1738
01:27:23,467 --> 01:27:27,947
Speaker 19: SPG looks like it'll end up potentially two points out

1739
01:27:28,027 --> 01:27:32,187
Speaker 19: of the playoffs. Love finishes up in that position, and

1740
01:27:32,507 --> 01:27:33,707
Speaker 19: Love is going to advance.

1741
01:27:34,347 --> 01:27:39,307
Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the Epic Fails Weekend

1742
01:27:39,387 --> 01:27:42,747
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Pine Newstalk Zenby.

1743
01:27:43,107 --> 01:27:46,307
Speaker 2: Ten past two, the longest winning streak in New Zealand

1744
01:27:46,347 --> 01:27:50,427
Speaker 2: provincial rugby history has finally come to an end. After

1745
01:27:50,627 --> 01:27:55,547
Speaker 2: thirty nine straight victories stretching back over eighteen hundred days

1746
01:27:56,107 --> 01:28:00,187
Speaker 2: to October of twenty nineteen, South Canterbury have finally been

1747
01:28:00,267 --> 01:28:02,867
Speaker 2: beaten by their neighbors from an hour up the road.

1748
01:28:02,947 --> 01:28:06,307
Speaker 2: Mid Canterbury, playing in their first Meads Cup semi five

1749
01:28:06,787 --> 01:28:11,027
Speaker 2: in nine years, have won seventeen sixteen with a penalty

1750
01:28:11,227 --> 01:28:14,467
Speaker 2: deep into added time. The win was masterminded by Mid

1751
01:28:14,547 --> 01:28:18,707
Speaker 2: Canterbury's first year head coach Matt Winter, who joins us now. Matt,

1752
01:28:18,707 --> 01:28:20,627
Speaker 2: thanks for your time. Did you sleep okay last night?

1753
01:28:22,027 --> 01:28:22,227
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1754
01:28:22,507 --> 01:28:25,147
Speaker 16: Like a baby, like a baby, j Yeah. It was

1755
01:28:25,987 --> 01:28:30,827
Speaker 16: pretty special, pretty special occasion, pretty special performance and yeah, yeah,

1756
01:28:31,667 --> 01:28:32,987
Speaker 16: very pleased to get it all done, mate.

1757
01:28:32,987 --> 01:28:33,467
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

1758
01:28:33,707 --> 01:28:35,747
Speaker 2: I heard your chatting on our christ Church News Talk

1759
01:28:35,827 --> 01:28:39,507
Speaker 2: Z'B show yesterday morning. You talked about limiting their opportunities.

1760
01:28:39,547 --> 01:28:41,427
Speaker 2: How did you feel when they scored a try after

1761
01:28:41,467 --> 01:28:41,987
Speaker 2: two minutes?

1762
01:28:42,947 --> 01:28:47,507
Speaker 16: Not great, kind of off the scripts were what we

1763
01:28:47,627 --> 01:28:52,507
Speaker 16: planned on doing. But yeah, Nate callback and to stay

1764
01:28:52,547 --> 01:28:55,867
Speaker 16: in the game after Yeah, he's been down early like that.

1765
01:28:56,107 --> 01:28:57,907
Speaker 16: The South Canterrea a team once they get a best

1766
01:28:57,907 --> 01:29:00,467
Speaker 16: of steam up, very hard to stay with. So yeah,

1767
01:29:00,507 --> 01:29:01,787
Speaker 16: the boys showed a lot of ticker.

1768
01:29:01,907 --> 01:29:03,747
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at the yeah, I'm looking at the

1769
01:29:04,067 --> 01:29:08,227
Speaker 2: at the scoring action. And you were sixteen six down

1770
01:29:08,547 --> 01:29:11,627
Speaker 2: going into the final ten minutes because you were so

1771
01:29:11,827 --> 01:29:14,587
Speaker 2: close and hadn't let them get away. Did you feel

1772
01:29:14,587 --> 01:29:15,667
Speaker 2: as though you had to come back in.

1773
01:29:15,747 --> 01:29:20,347
Speaker 16: You yep, Yeah, absolutely. We talked about it all week

1774
01:29:20,587 --> 01:29:22,667
Speaker 16: about it being, you know, been an eighty minute game

1775
01:29:22,707 --> 01:29:24,427
Speaker 16: and probably going to take longer than that. Text you

1776
01:29:24,547 --> 01:29:27,027
Speaker 16: to want it, to get it, to get it done,

1777
01:29:27,027 --> 01:29:29,187
Speaker 16: I spose, But yeah, we felt that the longer we

1778
01:29:29,267 --> 01:29:32,787
Speaker 16: stayed with them, you know, the better we were going

1779
01:29:32,827 --> 01:29:34,947
Speaker 16: to go. And yeah, we got a huge impact.

1780
01:29:34,667 --> 01:29:35,227
Speaker 6: Off our beach.

1781
01:29:35,267 --> 01:29:38,027
Speaker 16: So I can't speak highly enough of what the men

1782
01:29:38,107 --> 01:29:39,787
Speaker 16: that came off the beach, what they did for us.

1783
01:29:39,867 --> 01:29:42,547
Speaker 16: So yeah, we won in that last ten or fifteen

1784
01:29:42,587 --> 01:29:43,987
Speaker 16: minutes on the back of what they did for us.

1785
01:29:44,387 --> 01:29:46,867
Speaker 2: Let's go through the last eight minutes, shall we a

1786
01:29:46,987 --> 01:29:49,867
Speaker 2: penalty which brought you back to sixteen to nine, then

1787
01:29:49,947 --> 01:29:52,907
Speaker 2: a try in the seventy fourth to make it sixteen fourteen,

1788
01:29:52,987 --> 01:29:55,547
Speaker 2: but a missed conversion. Tell us about that try? Was

1789
01:29:55,587 --> 01:29:57,387
Speaker 2: the conversion handy? Was it out wide? What was the

1790
01:29:57,467 --> 01:29:57,907
Speaker 2: story there?

1791
01:29:58,587 --> 01:30:01,267
Speaker 16: Yeah, it was a try in the corner. We'd finally

1792
01:30:01,467 --> 01:30:03,427
Speaker 16: held onto the ball and built some phases which we

1793
01:30:03,547 --> 01:30:05,507
Speaker 16: had struggled to do for the first sixty five sea

1794
01:30:05,547 --> 01:30:08,427
Speaker 16: of your minute, built from phases, got down their end

1795
01:30:08,467 --> 01:30:11,827
Speaker 16: and we were chipping away around the fringes and then

1796
01:30:12,307 --> 01:30:13,867
Speaker 16: a great path from the base of the up from

1797
01:30:13,867 --> 01:30:17,907
Speaker 16: our half that Kieran mcclator, a big Fiji and winger

1798
01:30:18,507 --> 01:30:21,707
Speaker 16: right to bvus racouter and he dotted it down in

1799
01:30:21,827 --> 01:30:24,147
Speaker 16: the corner. So it wasn't an easy kick straight into

1800
01:30:24,187 --> 01:30:27,587
Speaker 16: the guts and eastily coming off the coast too, So yeah,

1801
01:30:27,587 --> 01:30:30,107
Speaker 16: it was never going to be an easy kick. But yeah,

1802
01:30:30,107 --> 01:30:33,187
Speaker 16: againing this back and within range was pretty crucial obviously.

1803
01:30:33,427 --> 01:30:36,467
Speaker 2: Indeed, so sixteen fourteen, you get to eighty minutes, presumably

1804
01:30:36,507 --> 01:30:39,227
Speaker 2: the hooter goes then what because by the looks of

1805
01:30:39,307 --> 01:30:41,507
Speaker 2: this you didn't land the winning penalty into about four

1806
01:30:41,587 --> 01:30:43,867
Speaker 2: or five minutes in, so tell us about the action

1807
01:30:44,027 --> 01:30:44,547
Speaker 2: after the hood.

1808
01:30:45,507 --> 01:30:48,067
Speaker 16: Yeah, so same again, really mate. We just started held

1809
01:30:48,147 --> 01:30:51,147
Speaker 16: onto the ball, went a few phases, got turned over

1810
01:30:51,227 --> 01:30:54,107
Speaker 16: well or twice, and they thankfully kicked it back to us,

1811
01:30:54,187 --> 01:30:58,587
Speaker 16: so we managed to work our way back up the field. Yeah,

1812
01:30:58,707 --> 01:31:00,947
Speaker 16: retaining position kept them under pressure. They gave us a

1813
01:31:00,987 --> 01:31:03,587
Speaker 16: couple of penalties. They gave us one which was about

1814
01:31:03,627 --> 01:31:07,987
Speaker 16: fifty out. Thankfully it wasn't about five meters closer, otherwise

1815
01:31:08,027 --> 01:31:10,427
Speaker 16: he might have lined it up and it would have

1816
01:31:10,467 --> 01:31:12,867
Speaker 16: been a bit touch and go with that win. But yeah,

1817
01:31:12,907 --> 01:31:15,347
Speaker 16: it was about fifty out, so kicked it to the corner.

1818
01:31:15,867 --> 01:31:18,707
Speaker 16: Went a couple more phases off the line out, were

1819
01:31:18,747 --> 01:31:22,107
Speaker 16: lining up with a drop goal, and then they stripped

1820
01:31:22,147 --> 01:31:27,667
Speaker 16: it off reserve hooker and as they stripped it that

1821
01:31:28,147 --> 01:31:30,507
Speaker 16: knocked it on into someone in front of them, so

1822
01:31:30,547 --> 01:31:33,307
Speaker 16: they're actually offside, which they weren't all that happy about

1823
01:31:33,347 --> 01:31:35,027
Speaker 16: with at the time, but just watching it back now.

1824
01:31:34,987 --> 01:31:36,747
Speaker 9: This morning, it was it was the right call from

1825
01:31:36,787 --> 01:31:37,307
Speaker 9: the referee.

1826
01:31:37,387 --> 01:31:39,707
Speaker 16: So yeah, right in front of the sticks on the

1827
01:31:39,827 --> 01:31:42,547
Speaker 16: eighty fourth minute, eighty fifth minute, I think, and tom

1828
01:31:42,627 --> 01:31:44,707
Speaker 16: Reki stepped up with ice in his veins and put

1829
01:31:44,747 --> 01:31:45,467
Speaker 16: it through the sticks.

1830
01:31:45,907 --> 01:31:48,027
Speaker 2: It was pretty handy. I've seen some footage of but

1831
01:31:49,027 --> 01:31:51,587
Speaker 2: I guess it's never secure until it goes through. But

1832
01:31:51,707 --> 01:31:54,747
Speaker 2: it sails through. The whistle goes. What are your emotions?

1833
01:31:56,667 --> 01:31:58,227
Speaker 16: But yeah, I don't know if there's a few videos

1834
01:31:58,267 --> 01:32:02,387
Speaker 16: going around on my emotions starving to keep them in

1835
01:32:02,467 --> 01:32:04,427
Speaker 16: the best of times, but I certainly couldn't just then,

1836
01:32:04,547 --> 01:32:08,547
Speaker 16: So ye elation, make ye absolutely over the moment. It's

1837
01:32:09,267 --> 01:32:10,947
Speaker 16: very difficult to put in the words, and even now

1838
01:32:11,107 --> 01:32:13,427
Speaker 16: just talking about it today, it's you still had to

1839
01:32:13,707 --> 01:32:15,227
Speaker 16: put them into words, really how it feels.

1840
01:32:15,307 --> 01:32:16,467
Speaker 25: But that very cool.

1841
01:32:16,507 --> 01:32:19,587
Speaker 16: We've got to We enjoyed last night, celebrated last night,

1842
01:32:19,627 --> 01:32:21,067
Speaker 16: and you know we've got a job to do this week,

1843
01:32:21,147 --> 01:32:23,747
Speaker 16: to go up to teams and put one on them too.

1844
01:32:24,187 --> 01:32:26,267
Speaker 2: I know hindsight it's a wonderful thing. But going in,

1845
01:32:26,427 --> 01:32:29,227
Speaker 2: did you feel like it could be your day? I mean,

1846
01:32:29,307 --> 01:32:32,707
Speaker 2: that's a long winning streak, isn't it, thirty nine straight wins?

1847
01:32:32,747 --> 01:32:35,707
Speaker 2: Did you feel though that that might be your day? Yesterday?

1848
01:32:36,467 --> 01:32:36,627
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1849
01:32:36,707 --> 01:32:39,827
Speaker 16: Always mate, always, Yeah, pretty confident or incredibly confident in

1850
01:32:39,907 --> 01:32:42,547
Speaker 16: a group of men. We've got the pretty special bunch,

1851
01:32:42,667 --> 01:32:45,307
Speaker 16: so we always thought we could do it, but like

1852
01:32:45,427 --> 01:32:48,507
Speaker 16: you said, it was incredibly tough like that. Yeah, they're

1853
01:32:48,667 --> 01:32:50,827
Speaker 16: a press aside and to do what they've done, I

1854
01:32:50,867 --> 01:32:53,307
Speaker 16: don't think anyone will have a thirty nine games in

1855
01:32:53,347 --> 01:32:55,587
Speaker 16: a row again, so yeah, to be the ones to

1856
01:32:55,627 --> 01:32:58,187
Speaker 16: do it's pretty special. But yeah, we always felt we

1857
01:32:58,267 --> 01:32:59,587
Speaker 16: were a chance, definitely.

1858
01:32:59,627 --> 01:33:02,227
Speaker 2: And it's a pretty pretty short hop down the road.

1859
01:33:02,267 --> 01:33:04,347
Speaker 2: Isn't this all just straight line from Ashburton to to

1860
01:33:04,467 --> 01:33:06,227
Speaker 2: morows it? Do you have any fans come down with you?

1861
01:33:06,947 --> 01:33:07,147
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1862
01:33:07,147 --> 01:33:09,227
Speaker 16: We did. We Yeah, we had an awesome turnout with

1863
01:33:09,387 --> 01:33:11,827
Speaker 16: Lott ofman Kennery Jews in the crowd and do a

1864
01:33:11,867 --> 01:33:12,627
Speaker 16: lot of support there.

1865
01:33:12,667 --> 01:33:14,147
Speaker 6: So yeah, we're very grateful for that.

1866
01:33:14,267 --> 01:33:14,787
Speaker 8: It was awesome.

1867
01:33:15,107 --> 01:33:17,107
Speaker 2: So your last one the Meets Cup mad Canibury, that

1868
01:33:17,267 --> 01:33:20,507
Speaker 2: is in twenty fourteen. You'll face Teams Valley in the

1869
01:33:20,627 --> 01:33:23,427
Speaker 2: final next weekend. Have you have you started to refocus

1870
01:33:23,507 --> 01:33:23,707
Speaker 2: on that?

1871
01:33:24,587 --> 01:33:24,787
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1872
01:33:25,027 --> 01:33:27,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, watch a little bit of teams value already today,

1873
01:33:28,147 --> 01:33:30,707
Speaker 16: thankfully with the scouting that we've done on some other

1874
01:33:30,787 --> 01:33:33,827
Speaker 16: teams that don't play teams value already. So he had

1875
01:33:33,827 --> 01:33:35,627
Speaker 16: a bit of a look at them anyway. No, a

1876
01:33:35,667 --> 01:33:37,387
Speaker 16: good side. They're definitely a good side.

1877
01:33:37,707 --> 01:33:37,907
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1878
01:33:37,947 --> 01:33:40,627
Speaker 16: That pretty impressive. So it's not going to be easy,

1879
01:33:40,867 --> 01:33:43,747
Speaker 16: especially going up there, but yeah, very much looking forward

1880
01:33:43,747 --> 01:33:44,867
Speaker 16: to the opportunity, that's for sure.

1881
01:33:45,027 --> 01:33:46,667
Speaker 2: How was your phone afterwards to a blow up?

1882
01:33:47,307 --> 01:33:47,667
Speaker 5: I did?

1883
01:33:48,027 --> 01:33:50,027
Speaker 16: Yeah, people that don't even like me will need to

1884
01:33:50,147 --> 01:33:52,787
Speaker 16: do me. So yeah, there's quite a few of them,

1885
01:33:52,907 --> 01:33:53,987
Speaker 16: so that was awesome.

1886
01:33:54,667 --> 01:33:54,867
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1887
01:33:56,067 --> 01:33:56,587
Speaker 7: I love that.

1888
01:33:56,707 --> 01:33:59,267
Speaker 2: I love that. You probably had mad Monday fist of it.

1889
01:33:59,307 --> 01:34:00,747
Speaker 2: He's playing for tomorrow. Did you're gonna have to put

1890
01:34:00,787 --> 01:34:01,547
Speaker 2: them on old for a week?

1891
01:34:02,627 --> 01:34:02,667
Speaker 13: No?

1892
01:34:03,027 --> 01:34:05,867
Speaker 16: No, no, no, man, Monday definitely not. We we didn't

1893
01:34:05,907 --> 01:34:08,147
Speaker 16: put that off till next week, so that I'll probably

1894
01:34:08,147 --> 01:34:10,427
Speaker 16: take Monday off work though, just to watch teams valley footage,

1895
01:34:10,507 --> 01:34:12,747
Speaker 16: So I'll put my leave in shortly.

1896
01:34:13,027 --> 01:34:15,827
Speaker 2: Brilliant. I mean, what, this is your first season in charge,

1897
01:34:15,867 --> 01:34:17,107
Speaker 2: isn't it correct?

1898
01:34:17,387 --> 01:34:17,587
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1899
01:34:17,987 --> 01:34:19,707
Speaker 2: So, I mean at the start of the year you

1900
01:34:19,707 --> 01:34:21,867
Speaker 2: al wall say you want to win it, right, at

1901
01:34:21,867 --> 01:34:23,947
Speaker 2: what point did you start to think to yourself, actually,

1902
01:34:23,987 --> 01:34:25,427
Speaker 2: we've got a you know, we've got a pretty good

1903
01:34:25,427 --> 01:34:25,787
Speaker 2: team here.

1904
01:34:26,747 --> 01:34:29,467
Speaker 16: I reckon our first preseason game against South in Development

1905
01:34:30,187 --> 01:34:32,667
Speaker 16: was pretty special. We were really light on numbers.

1906
01:34:34,027 --> 01:34:37,627
Speaker 9: Everyone was sorry.

1907
01:34:37,627 --> 01:34:41,587
Speaker 16: I had a pretty long rugby season, so we we

1908
01:34:41,707 --> 01:34:43,827
Speaker 16: went went in there under strength and they probably took

1909
01:34:43,867 --> 01:34:45,387
Speaker 16: us for granted a little bit, but we managed to

1910
01:34:45,427 --> 01:34:47,747
Speaker 16: hold on to a pretty impressive winn a Eastend, which

1911
01:34:47,907 --> 01:34:50,027
Speaker 16: we hadn't done for quite a few years. So I

1912
01:34:50,107 --> 01:34:51,907
Speaker 16: think that was a pretty good indicator early on that

1913
01:34:51,987 --> 01:34:54,267
Speaker 16: said that we had something pretty special all right.

1914
01:34:54,347 --> 01:34:56,507
Speaker 2: Well, one to go the final of the Meets Cup

1915
01:34:56,627 --> 01:34:58,667
Speaker 2: next weekend. Look forward to seeing how that goes. But

1916
01:34:58,987 --> 01:35:02,347
Speaker 2: congratulations on a historic victory yesterday. It must have been

1917
01:35:02,347 --> 01:35:04,147
Speaker 2: a wonderful bus ride home, mate, Thanks for taking the

1918
01:35:04,227 --> 01:35:05,947
Speaker 2: time for a chat. No iris, thank you very much,

1919
01:35:06,107 --> 01:35:08,267
Speaker 2: thanks Matt. Matt went to their head coach of Mid

1920
01:35:08,347 --> 01:35:12,067
Speaker 2: Canterbury after they went over South Canterbury yesterday in Timoru

1921
01:35:13,067 --> 01:35:16,947
Speaker 2: seventeen points to sixteen. At the same time, Thames Valley

1922
01:35:17,067 --> 01:35:20,067
Speaker 2: went to Fonganui and beat them thirty eight fifteen. So

1923
01:35:20,187 --> 01:35:24,027
Speaker 2: the two away teams victorious and the Meads Cup semi

1924
01:35:24,067 --> 01:35:27,267
Speaker 2: finals yesterday. Thames Valley will host Mid Canterbury in the

1925
01:35:27,307 --> 01:35:33,027
Speaker 2: Meads Cup final next Saturday. In the Lahure Cup, these

1926
01:35:33,107 --> 01:35:37,827
Speaker 2: score lines King Country beat East Coast thirty four to

1927
01:35:37,907 --> 01:35:40,987
Speaker 2: thirty one. I guess that's not entirely unusual. But in

1928
01:35:41,107 --> 01:35:44,667
Speaker 2: Leavin yesterday, hot Off a New a Carpitty fifty one

1929
01:35:45,787 --> 01:35:48,027
Speaker 2: West Coast fifty two.

1930
01:35:50,427 --> 01:35:51,347
Speaker 28: Fifty to two.

1931
01:35:51,507 --> 01:35:56,387
Speaker 2: Fifty one West Coast beat hot Off a New a

1932
01:35:56,467 --> 01:36:00,187
Speaker 2: Carpety yesterday. So they will play King Country in the

1933
01:36:00,267 --> 01:36:03,827
Speaker 2: final of the Lahore Cup, likely next weekend as well.

1934
01:36:03,947 --> 01:36:05,787
Speaker 2: Date still to be confirmed. In fact, so was the

1935
01:36:05,827 --> 01:36:08,027
Speaker 2: Meads Cup. I think both games will be next weekend

1936
01:36:08,667 --> 01:36:10,907
Speaker 2: on one or other of the two days. But yeah,

1937
01:36:11,267 --> 01:36:13,267
Speaker 2: Provincial rugby going through Pining.

1938
01:36:13,347 --> 01:36:16,187
Speaker 29: I believe that fifty one is that the highest ever

1939
01:36:16,307 --> 01:36:20,227
Speaker 29: losing score in Heartland rugby, well have to be Provincial

1940
01:36:20,347 --> 01:36:21,707
Speaker 29: rugby possibly.

1941
01:36:21,627 --> 01:36:23,307
Speaker 2: Magine getting fifty one points in losing.

1942
01:36:23,867 --> 01:36:25,827
Speaker 29: I think it is because I think a few weeks

1943
01:36:25,907 --> 01:36:29,947
Speaker 29: ago actually there were two two games which was sixty

1944
01:36:30,027 --> 01:36:32,507
Speaker 29: points to forty five and then a sixty two to

1945
01:36:32,547 --> 01:36:34,387
Speaker 29: forty five in the same week, and I think forty

1946
01:36:34,467 --> 01:36:39,627
Speaker 29: five equalled the highest ever losing total. So they they

1947
01:36:39,947 --> 01:36:44,427
Speaker 29: really champion attacking rugby in the Heartland game, don't they?

1948
01:36:44,907 --> 01:36:45,187
Speaker 16: They do?

1949
01:36:45,747 --> 01:36:46,187
Speaker 30: They do well.

1950
01:36:46,387 --> 01:36:48,507
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the scoring in that game and

1951
01:36:50,267 --> 01:36:53,907
Speaker 2: it was fifty two West Coast where he head sorry

1952
01:36:53,987 --> 01:36:56,187
Speaker 2: forty twenty seven at half time. So they had a

1953
01:36:56,227 --> 01:36:58,027
Speaker 2: good lead at half time and got forty points in

1954
01:36:58,067 --> 01:37:00,827
Speaker 2: the first forty minutes, but then hol of a Company

1955
01:37:00,867 --> 01:37:04,107
Speaker 2: came back and hor of New Company led fifty one

1956
01:37:04,267 --> 01:37:07,707
Speaker 2: forty seven when the hooter went but a late late

1957
01:37:07,787 --> 01:37:10,347
Speaker 2: try from West Coast fifty two to fifty one. Good

1958
01:37:10,387 --> 01:37:13,587
Speaker 2: game for the neutral Andy, oh, big time. Absolutely.

1959
01:37:13,627 --> 01:37:14,987
Speaker 29: I would have loved to be at that one, but

1960
01:37:15,467 --> 01:37:17,947
Speaker 29: I think all of I think there was only one

1961
01:37:18,027 --> 01:37:21,427
Speaker 29: favorite that one, Heartland the Heartland semi finals as well

1962
01:37:21,867 --> 01:37:26,627
Speaker 29: yesterday which was King Country, so you know it can go.

1963
01:37:27,747 --> 01:37:30,387
Speaker 29: We sort of talked about Heartland being everyone plays in

1964
01:37:30,467 --> 01:37:33,507
Speaker 29: South Canterbury wins, but it's wide open now, which is

1965
01:37:33,547 --> 01:37:34,227
Speaker 29: great to see him.

1966
01:37:34,227 --> 01:37:34,947
Speaker 2: Provincial rugby.

1967
01:37:35,267 --> 01:37:35,627
Speaker 6: I love it.

1968
01:37:35,867 --> 01:37:38,547
Speaker 2: I love it and yeah, you're right, and we played

1969
01:37:38,587 --> 01:37:40,707
Speaker 2: and in case you missed it, the upset win, I

1970
01:37:40,747 --> 01:37:43,067
Speaker 2: guess you'd say by table position anyway of what cuftal

1971
01:37:43,107 --> 01:37:47,387
Speaker 2: betting Taranaki, Canterbury have just gone twelve mill ahead of

1972
01:37:47,467 --> 01:37:51,067
Speaker 2: Tasman and that would be an upset given their table position.

1973
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:55,107
Speaker 2: Tasman third, Canterbury sixth, only fourteen minutes gone, but yeah,

1974
01:37:55,347 --> 01:37:59,427
Speaker 2: the jeopardy and the uncertainty continues. In Provincial Rugby two

1975
01:37:59,587 --> 01:38:03,027
Speaker 2: twenty one, it is from Bathurst. Brodieksteki still leads through

1976
01:38:03,067 --> 01:38:04,867
Speaker 2: twenty two of one hundred and sixty one laps brought

1977
01:38:04,867 --> 01:38:09,627
Speaker 2: Fenny's second, Richie Staneways dropped down to fifth, Matt Payne

1978
01:38:09,747 --> 01:38:14,347
Speaker 2: tenth and Andre Holmgartner thirteenth. At the moment when we

1979
01:38:14,467 --> 01:38:16,627
Speaker 2: come back, we're going to flick our attention across to football.

1980
01:38:16,987 --> 01:38:19,467
Speaker 2: One week to go until the New A League's season

1981
01:38:19,547 --> 01:38:23,547
Speaker 2: gets underway. Six days until Auckland FC play their very

1982
01:38:23,667 --> 01:38:27,427
Speaker 2: first game off professional football. Their coach Steve Coricker and

1983
01:38:27,547 --> 01:38:32,387
Speaker 2: Phoenix coach Jihan Calo Italiano to come on Weekend Sport one, Couch.

1984
01:38:32,427 --> 01:38:36,987
Speaker 1: Cold and n Gage Weekend Sports with Jason Fame and GJ.

1985
01:38:37,147 --> 01:38:41,467
Speaker 1: Gunner homes New Zealand's first trusted Omilder News Talks Abailey.

1986
01:38:41,547 --> 01:38:44,427
Speaker 2: News Talks B two twenty four. One week to go

1987
01:38:44,907 --> 01:38:47,747
Speaker 2: until the New A League Men's season is underway. One

1988
01:38:47,827 --> 01:38:51,987
Speaker 2: week until the competition's newest club, Auckland FC, make their debut.

1989
01:38:52,027 --> 01:38:54,947
Speaker 2: In fact, it's only six days Saturday. They take on

1990
01:38:55,267 --> 01:38:58,507
Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw at go Media Mount Smart Stadium five o'clock kickoff.

1991
01:38:58,907 --> 01:39:01,347
Speaker 2: Head coach of Auckland FC is Steve Coricker, who joins

1992
01:39:01,427 --> 01:39:03,667
Speaker 2: US now. Steve six days out from the start of

1993
01:39:03,707 --> 01:39:07,347
Speaker 2: the season, would you say you're where you wanted to be.

1994
01:39:10,027 --> 01:39:12,547
Speaker 21: I think when you start a new club it takes

1995
01:39:12,587 --> 01:39:16,467
Speaker 21: a lot of time. Obviously, players, to bring in staff,

1996
01:39:17,347 --> 01:39:20,747
Speaker 21: just everything. It takes a lot of time. We finally

1997
01:39:20,787 --> 01:39:23,347
Speaker 21: got all our players in so a little bit later

1998
01:39:23,427 --> 01:39:26,987
Speaker 21: than we expected, especially with the foreign players. We had

1999
01:39:27,027 --> 01:39:29,347
Speaker 21: a few come in about three weeks ago and one

2000
01:39:29,547 --> 01:39:34,187
Speaker 21: just arrived this week, so you know, I'd like them

2001
01:39:34,227 --> 01:39:36,667
Speaker 21: to have a little bit more time with the boys.

2002
01:39:36,747 --> 01:39:39,227
Speaker 21: But all in all, I think it's been a very

2003
01:39:39,267 --> 01:39:42,227
Speaker 21: good preseason for us and the boys. Have you really

2004
01:39:42,307 --> 01:39:44,547
Speaker 21: taken on board what we're trying to do and really

2005
01:39:44,587 --> 01:39:47,787
Speaker 21: improved as the season as the pre season went along.

2006
01:39:47,947 --> 01:39:50,067
Speaker 28: So we're happy where we are at the moment.

2007
01:39:50,587 --> 01:39:52,947
Speaker 2: What have been the biggest challenges over the last few

2008
01:39:52,987 --> 01:39:56,387
Speaker 2: months as you've basically built a squad from scratch.

2009
01:39:57,107 --> 01:40:00,787
Speaker 21: Yeah, yeah, it's been It's been a real challenge, but

2010
01:40:00,867 --> 01:40:02,947
Speaker 21: a really exciting one. This was part of the reason

2011
01:40:02,947 --> 01:40:05,387
Speaker 21: why I wanted to come here, to be involved in

2012
01:40:05,507 --> 01:40:08,507
Speaker 21: something new and fresh for me obviously being at one

2013
01:40:08,547 --> 01:40:10,947
Speaker 21: club for nineteen years, and to do it with obviously

2014
01:40:11,067 --> 01:40:14,947
Speaker 21: Terram at Flynn and obviously Nick Becker. You know, we

2015
01:40:15,067 --> 01:40:17,947
Speaker 21: started the three of us started very similar as times.

2016
01:40:18,027 --> 01:40:22,107
Speaker 21: And you know we've put together twenty six players, fourteen staff,

2017
01:40:22,227 --> 01:40:25,387
Speaker 21: fifteen fourteen or fifteen staff and obviously now in Knicks

2018
01:40:25,467 --> 01:40:27,587
Speaker 21: team as well in the office staff, there's been twenty

2019
01:40:27,987 --> 01:40:32,547
Speaker 21: twenty staff members so all in what eight nine months really,

2020
01:40:32,787 --> 01:40:35,667
Speaker 21: so I think we've done really well to get to

2021
01:40:35,747 --> 01:40:38,827
Speaker 21: where we are. Obviously, now is the time that for

2022
01:40:39,667 --> 01:40:41,947
Speaker 21: the football side of things is where we where we

2023
01:40:42,067 --> 01:40:44,187
Speaker 21: start and you know, we want to obviously get off

2024
01:40:44,227 --> 01:40:46,707
Speaker 21: to a good start against Brisbane and get three points

2025
01:40:46,787 --> 01:40:48,987
Speaker 21: and there's a lot of talk that it might be

2026
01:40:49,147 --> 01:40:50,987
Speaker 21: sold out the stadium, which is.

2027
01:40:50,987 --> 01:40:53,307
Speaker 27: Obviously fantastic for our first game and.

2028
01:40:53,667 --> 01:40:57,027
Speaker 28: It just shows the support that you know, we will

2029
01:40:57,067 --> 01:40:58,267
Speaker 28: have here if we do really well.

2030
01:40:58,787 --> 01:41:02,947
Speaker 2: By my account, Steve, eighteen of your twenty six kiwis

2031
01:41:03,267 --> 01:41:04,347
Speaker 2: how intentional was that?

2032
01:41:05,667 --> 01:41:07,347
Speaker 27: Yeah, well that is a bit of a brief from

2033
01:41:07,387 --> 01:41:08,067
Speaker 27: the owner as well.

2034
01:41:08,107 --> 01:41:12,587
Speaker 21: He wanted as many key players as possible, you know,

2035
01:41:12,947 --> 01:41:15,227
Speaker 21: he wants to give them opportunities you know, and I

2036
01:41:15,307 --> 01:41:18,267
Speaker 21: think with the wider group that that he does own

2037
01:41:18,387 --> 01:41:21,947
Speaker 21: other football clubs, he wants to give them opportunities obviously

2038
01:41:22,027 --> 01:41:23,987
Speaker 21: to do well here in Auckland and then if they

2039
01:41:24,347 --> 01:41:27,267
Speaker 21: are really good, well then they can move to to

2040
01:41:27,427 --> 01:41:29,947
Speaker 21: another club that you know that he owns. That's you know,

2041
01:41:30,067 --> 01:41:33,627
Speaker 21: that's he wants to. He loves New Zealand, He's spoken

2042
01:41:33,667 --> 01:41:36,787
Speaker 21: about it before. He has obviously restaurants and bars here

2043
01:41:36,867 --> 01:41:39,747
Speaker 21: and wineries and you know, he really likes it here.

2044
01:41:39,907 --> 01:41:42,867
Speaker 21: So he wants to give opportunities for young Kiwi players

2045
01:41:42,907 --> 01:41:43,867
Speaker 21: to come through.

2046
01:41:44,547 --> 01:41:46,267
Speaker 2: You've watched a bit of our national league, quite a

2047
01:41:46,307 --> 01:41:49,067
Speaker 2: bit of national league to bring some players on board,

2048
01:41:49,107 --> 01:41:52,227
Speaker 2: be it full time or scholarship players. When you're watching

2049
01:41:52,547 --> 01:41:55,867
Speaker 2: New Zealand's National League for players you might recruit, what

2050
01:41:55,987 --> 01:41:58,387
Speaker 2: are you specifically looking for to give you comfort that

2051
01:41:58,467 --> 01:41:59,987
Speaker 2: they can make the step up to a league?

2052
01:42:00,987 --> 01:42:03,347
Speaker 21: Well, I think, you know, we sort of look at

2053
01:42:03,387 --> 01:42:06,027
Speaker 21: the positions that we were looking for at the time,

2054
01:42:06,347 --> 01:42:11,507
Speaker 21: and you know, in the position is obviously a certain

2055
01:42:11,547 --> 01:42:13,947
Speaker 21: criteria that we are looking for. You know, as a winger,

2056
01:42:14,027 --> 01:42:15,627
Speaker 21: we want them to be able to dribble, We want

2057
01:42:15,667 --> 01:42:17,267
Speaker 21: them to be able to score goals. We want them

2058
01:42:17,427 --> 01:42:19,667
Speaker 21: to create opportunities to be able to.

2059
01:42:19,667 --> 01:42:22,707
Speaker 27: Cross the ball. So there's all different things for different positions.

2060
01:42:23,947 --> 01:42:26,987
Speaker 27: I was quite surprised actually because obviously.

2061
01:42:26,667 --> 01:42:29,987
Speaker 21: Coming here, I didn't know too much about the well,

2062
01:42:30,627 --> 01:42:33,707
Speaker 21: the Northern League which we we got most of our players.

2063
01:42:33,427 --> 01:42:35,667
Speaker 27: From, and then obviously they've gone into the National League.

2064
01:42:35,747 --> 01:42:39,707
Speaker 21: Now I was surprised with the standard and some really

2065
01:42:39,787 --> 01:42:42,267
Speaker 21: good talented young players I think you're going to see

2066
01:42:42,347 --> 01:42:45,307
Speaker 21: come through that and into our squad and I think,

2067
01:42:46,307 --> 01:42:48,587
Speaker 21: you know, we've we've got quite a number of players

2068
01:42:48,627 --> 01:42:50,547
Speaker 21: that haven't played in the A League before and they've

2069
01:42:50,667 --> 01:42:54,867
Speaker 21: come from obviously the Northern League, and I'm excited to

2070
01:42:54,947 --> 01:42:56,107
Speaker 21: see what they're going to do.

2071
01:42:57,467 --> 01:42:58,467
Speaker 28: Give it the opportunity.

2072
01:42:59,107 --> 01:43:00,947
Speaker 2: Well that's your New Zealanders, and of course you've got

2073
01:43:01,187 --> 01:43:04,067
Speaker 2: a sprinkling of Australians as well. But what about the imports, Steve,

2074
01:43:04,147 --> 01:43:08,147
Speaker 2: you must have literally one hundred of players pitched to you.

2075
01:43:08,627 --> 01:43:10,307
Speaker 2: How do you narrow that list down and then make

2076
01:43:10,387 --> 01:43:12,147
Speaker 2: your recruitment decisions about your imports?

2077
01:43:13,627 --> 01:43:15,347
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know they come from everywhere.

2078
01:43:15,427 --> 01:43:18,187
Speaker 28: Agents, you know, send a lot of players. We just

2079
01:43:18,267 --> 01:43:21,307
Speaker 28: got to filter through. Obviously we have a criteria that

2080
01:43:21,387 --> 01:43:25,307
Speaker 28: we look for it as well. You know it does

2081
01:43:25,387 --> 01:43:28,507
Speaker 28: cause he's ahead of recruiting as well.

2082
01:43:29,547 --> 01:43:31,747
Speaker 21: We have platforms that we work through as well that

2083
01:43:31,827 --> 01:43:34,147
Speaker 21: we get players sent through, and you know, it's just

2084
01:43:34,267 --> 01:43:37,947
Speaker 21: a process and that's that's why it's probably taken a

2085
01:43:38,027 --> 01:43:41,227
Speaker 21: little bit longer than expected. But you know, when when

2086
01:43:41,267 --> 01:43:44,627
Speaker 21: you're dealing with twenty six players, you know you expect that.

2087
01:43:44,787 --> 01:43:47,427
Speaker 21: But the foreigners normally come later than everyone else. But

2088
01:43:47,747 --> 01:43:50,587
Speaker 21: for me, they probably come. You know, it's taken us

2089
01:43:50,587 --> 01:43:52,347
Speaker 21: a little bit more time to get them once. Let's

2090
01:43:52,427 --> 01:43:54,587
Speaker 21: let's say that with visas and all that kind of

2091
01:43:54,667 --> 01:43:57,387
Speaker 21: stuff as well. You know we need visas from Australia

2092
01:43:57,547 --> 01:43:59,907
Speaker 21: and New Zealand, not just from one country.

2093
01:43:59,707 --> 01:44:00,987
Speaker 27: So it takes time.

2094
01:44:01,147 --> 01:44:05,027
Speaker 21: But we're pleased with the foreigners that we have, and

2095
01:44:05,347 --> 01:44:07,787
Speaker 21: you know, the ones that have been playing, you can

2096
01:44:07,827 --> 01:44:08,187
Speaker 21: see them.

2097
01:44:08,227 --> 01:44:10,027
Speaker 28: Obviously they weren't fit when they got here.

2098
01:44:10,467 --> 01:44:12,987
Speaker 21: They've been here three weeks and you know they're starting

2099
01:44:13,027 --> 01:44:14,707
Speaker 21: to step it up now, which is which is great.

2100
01:44:14,787 --> 01:44:16,867
Speaker 27: Ready for the ready for the start of the season.

2101
01:44:17,267 --> 01:44:18,907
Speaker 2: What have you looked to try to achieve in your

2102
01:44:18,947 --> 01:44:19,907
Speaker 2: preseason matches.

2103
01:44:21,707 --> 01:44:24,187
Speaker 21: Well, we wanted to obviously play against A League teams

2104
01:44:24,227 --> 01:44:27,347
Speaker 21: which you know, we had to go to Australia for that,

2105
01:44:27,467 --> 01:44:30,987
Speaker 21: which was fantastic for us to have of the opportunity

2106
01:44:31,067 --> 01:44:35,187
Speaker 21: to go to Sydney. We played against I think it

2107
01:44:35,307 --> 01:44:38,547
Speaker 21: was three teams in Sydney. That was our first taste

2108
01:44:38,587 --> 01:44:41,787
Speaker 21: of a league and then obviously we went to Melbourne.

2109
01:44:41,827 --> 01:44:45,147
Speaker 21: We played against belburd City, Wes the Annoyed. So we've

2110
01:44:45,187 --> 01:44:47,907
Speaker 21: see now you know, five teams of the A League

2111
01:44:48,387 --> 01:44:51,387
Speaker 21: where we had to improve and where we were and

2112
01:44:52,387 --> 01:44:54,027
Speaker 21: at that stage where we didn't have any of the.

2113
01:44:54,067 --> 01:44:59,267
Speaker 28: Foreigners, so we competed really well. I think, you know,

2114
01:44:59,347 --> 01:45:01,707
Speaker 28: the boys should be happy where we are at the moment.

2115
01:45:01,867 --> 01:45:04,547
Speaker 27: You know, we played Malaysia, that.

2116
01:45:04,827 --> 01:45:09,347
Speaker 21: Asian national team yesterday and really had a fantastic performance.

2117
01:45:09,467 --> 01:45:12,707
Speaker 21: So you know, we're building, we're getting better, which we

2118
01:45:12,827 --> 01:45:15,747
Speaker 21: as we expect from a new team. We expect to

2119
01:45:15,747 --> 01:45:18,627
Speaker 21: get better each game and improve as the season goes along.

2120
01:45:19,067 --> 01:45:20,387
Speaker 2: Have you decided on your captain?

2121
01:45:23,107 --> 01:45:24,307
Speaker 28: I have, yes, It'll be.

2122
01:45:24,547 --> 01:45:28,907
Speaker 21: Probably named next week, so the start of the season

2123
01:45:30,267 --> 01:45:34,067
Speaker 21: we'll announce that. As a club as we you know,

2124
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Speaker 21: obviously get closer to.

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Speaker 2: The season, look forward to that and a lot of

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01:45:36,827 --> 01:45:38,867
Speaker 2: talk about the Kiwi Darby. Steve, I'm sure you've picked

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01:45:38,907 --> 01:45:40,747
Speaker 2: up on this, but have you also got a bit

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01:45:40,747 --> 01:45:42,747
Speaker 2: of an eye on round two when Sydney FC, the

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01:45:43,147 --> 01:45:45,507
Speaker 2: club you spent all that time at as a player

2130
01:45:45,547 --> 01:45:47,307
Speaker 2: and a coach, when they come to Aortland there's like

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01:45:47,307 --> 01:45:48,227
Speaker 2: a mini Darby for you.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, it will be but and obviously the well Inter

2133
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Speaker 21: game is going to be something special as well. But

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01:45:55,947 --> 01:45:57,867
Speaker 21: to be honest with you, I think my focus is

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01:45:57,947 --> 01:46:01,467
Speaker 21: on one game, the Brisbane game only, and you know

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01:46:01,587 --> 01:46:02,587
Speaker 21: we've got a bit of work to do.

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01:46:02,787 --> 01:46:04,307
Speaker 27: This week on Brisbane.

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Speaker 21: You know they're a good young team and they have

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01:46:07,787 --> 01:46:10,067
Speaker 21: a lot of pace as well, so you know we

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01:46:10,147 --> 01:46:13,547
Speaker 21: will work only on Brisbane. And then obviously myself I

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01:46:13,627 --> 01:46:15,787
Speaker 21: have in the back of my head obviously Sydney and

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Speaker 21: well Eaton and what we need to get ready for them,

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01:46:19,347 --> 01:46:21,667
Speaker 21: But right now it's mainly the Brisbane game.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm hearing the same things you are about next Saturday, Steve.

2146
01:46:24,547 --> 01:46:27,307
Speaker 2: A sellout and coming at Mount Smart sounds like semi

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01:46:27,347 --> 01:46:29,387
Speaker 2: and wonderful occasion. Thanks for taking the time this afternoon,

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01:46:29,427 --> 01:46:31,307
Speaker 2: all the beast as you put your final touches of

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01:46:31,347 --> 01:46:32,347
Speaker 2: preparation on your team.

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Speaker 27: Thanks very much, Jason cheers, No, thank you, Steve.

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01:46:34,707 --> 01:46:37,787
Speaker 2: Steve Kriker. They're head coach of Auckland FCS, so yeah,

2152
01:46:38,827 --> 01:46:40,947
Speaker 2: they're obviously well on track. Be interesting to see who

2153
01:46:40,987 --> 01:46:43,547
Speaker 2: their captain is. I get the feeling it could be

2154
01:46:43,627 --> 01:46:49,147
Speaker 2: Hiroki Sakai. They're highly experienced Japanese defender. I don't know

2155
01:46:49,227 --> 01:46:51,987
Speaker 2: anything more than I'm just having a guess. There are

2156
01:46:52,027 --> 01:46:53,787
Speaker 2: a couple of other candidates, but I wonder whether he

2157
01:46:53,867 --> 01:46:55,787
Speaker 2: might get the armband. I guess we'll find out in

2158
01:46:55,947 --> 01:46:59,467
Speaker 2: due course. Jiankloa Teliano, Phoenix head coach. In just a moment,

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01:46:59,827 --> 01:47:04,827
Speaker 2: Canterbury are nineteen mill ahead of Tasman after twenty five

2160
01:47:04,947 --> 01:47:09,267
Speaker 2: minutes in Blenham. They've scored three unanswered tries. Corey Callo,

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01:47:09,347 --> 01:47:12,187
Speaker 2: Mitch Drummond and Brandon in Or have all dotted down

2162
01:47:12,507 --> 01:47:16,507
Speaker 2: twenty five minutes gone. Canterbury nineteen knill ahead of Tasman.

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01:47:16,667 --> 01:47:19,427
Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty will be enjoying that. If Canterbury win,

2164
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Speaker 2: Bay of Plenty will host Canterbury in the semi final.

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Speaker 2: If it's Tasman who can turn this deficit around and

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01:47:26,827 --> 01:47:28,627
Speaker 2: win the game, then it'll be Tasman who hosts Bay

2167
01:47:28,627 --> 01:47:31,267
Speaker 2: of plenty the Steamers, No, they're there. They'll be cheering

2168
01:47:31,307 --> 01:47:32,787
Speaker 2: on the Red and Blacks, no doubt, so that they

2169
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Speaker 2: can host a semi next weekend twenty seven to three

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Speaker 2: when we come back it as gian Carlalo Italiano, head

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01:47:38,667 --> 01:47:39,707
Speaker 2: coach of the Wellington Phoenix.

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Speaker 28: You be the TMO.

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Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Pine and GJ. Garvnerholmes, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: most trusted home builder, News Talks the.

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Speaker 2: B two thirty six on News Talk said be talking

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Speaker 2: a league football. Wellington Phoenix have their first game a

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Speaker 2: week today Sky Stadium and Wellington. They take on Western

2179
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Speaker 2: United with a four o'clock kick off off the back

2180
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Speaker 2: of their best ever season last season under head coach

2181
01:48:09,427 --> 01:48:12,387
Speaker 2: Jim Caloertaliana. I caught up with him on Friday and

2182
01:48:12,467 --> 01:48:15,987
Speaker 2: asked how he would compare how he's feeling now compared

2183
01:48:16,027 --> 01:48:18,467
Speaker 2: to how he felt a week out from last season.

2184
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Speaker 7: Quite different.

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01:48:21,187 --> 01:48:24,547
Speaker 14: I would say that last season, you know, there was

2186
01:48:24,547 --> 01:48:27,147
Speaker 14: a lot of question marks in terms of me being

2187
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Speaker 14: a head coach, what direction I was taking the club.

2188
01:48:30,907 --> 01:48:33,307
Speaker 14: I think where we're at this season now is where

2189
01:48:34,427 --> 01:48:38,627
Speaker 14: the direction is quite clear, and the uncertainty about myself,

2190
01:48:38,747 --> 01:48:41,027
Speaker 14: you know, I don't think exists. I think it's more

2191
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Speaker 14: about now dealing with expectations for built on what happened

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Speaker 14: last season.

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Speaker 7: That's been very difficult.

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Speaker 8: And I think.

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01:48:50,867 --> 01:48:53,947
Speaker 7: As well, we've had the very sort of.

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Speaker 14: Unstructured sort of I wouldn't say chaotic, but close to

2197
01:48:59,627 --> 01:49:02,787
Speaker 14: it sort of pre season because of all the international

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Speaker 14: breaks and the players coming back into the environment and

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Speaker 14: just you know, signing a bunch of new players as well,

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01:49:09,107 --> 01:49:11,427
Speaker 14: getting them integrated into the way we want to play

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Speaker 14: and building team chemistry.

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Speaker 7: So from that point it's been difficult.

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01:49:15,067 --> 01:49:20,027
Speaker 14: But you know, we've had three games against now A

2204
01:49:20,187 --> 01:49:21,907
Speaker 14: League opponents have been quite promising.

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01:49:22,827 --> 01:49:26,467
Speaker 2: How have you negotiated that uncertainty you call it chaos,

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01:49:26,547 --> 01:49:29,507
Speaker 2: but that unstructured build up, how have you managed to

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01:49:29,827 --> 01:49:31,747
Speaker 2: negotiate that to the best your ability and get your

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01:49:31,747 --> 01:49:32,987
Speaker 2: team ready for week one?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been a fine balancing act. Like the thing

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Speaker 7: for me is.

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Speaker 14: The most important thing is the player welfare. And once

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01:49:41,627 --> 01:49:43,347
Speaker 14: we finished the season, I felt it was a really

2213
01:49:43,387 --> 01:49:45,987
Speaker 14: good time for a lot of those boys to actually

2214
01:49:46,027 --> 01:49:48,587
Speaker 14: take some time off Unfortunately, they had the Oversea Nations

2215
01:49:48,627 --> 01:49:50,467
Speaker 14: Cup and we're away in camp for about a month

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01:49:51,787 --> 01:49:55,627
Speaker 14: and I had to make a conscious effort or sorry,

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01:49:55,707 --> 01:50:00,747
Speaker 14: conscious decision once they finish what I was going to

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01:50:00,827 --> 01:50:03,067
Speaker 14: do with them in terms of like we are we

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Speaker 14: going to prioritize the Australia Cup and what the actual

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Speaker 14: preseason looked like. So I made a decision and that

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01:50:10,067 --> 01:50:11,747
Speaker 14: they merit it to have some time off, which I

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01:50:11,787 --> 01:50:15,027
Speaker 14: think is very very important, and so we made a

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Speaker 14: decision to rest those senior boys for longer periods. Then

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Speaker 14: we also had the Olympics and the Under twenties qualifiers

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01:50:20,947 --> 01:50:24,627
Speaker 14: are kind of also jolted the ability of those younger

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01:50:24,667 --> 01:50:28,267
Speaker 14: boys that be available for the Australia Cup game. So

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Speaker 14: it was a fine balancing act. It was more about

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01:50:30,827 --> 01:50:33,947
Speaker 14: getting the right cohesion. But to be fair, I would

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Speaker 14: say that the young boys, especially in the Australia Cup,

2230
01:50:37,387 --> 01:50:38,867
Speaker 14: it was a very young team that went out there.

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Speaker 14: We had even though like Marco, when Cossa came off

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Speaker 14: the bench, I was actually quite pleased because we had

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01:50:45,587 --> 01:50:48,507
Speaker 14: I think essentially one session with all the boys available.

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01:50:48,867 --> 01:50:51,267
Speaker 14: But we had a large chunk of those young boys

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Speaker 14: in pre season and they were pretty good, I thought,

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Speaker 14: you know, for a large part, you know, southmol we

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01:50:56,547 --> 01:50:58,667
Speaker 14: were in there in the end part of their season

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01:50:58,747 --> 01:51:00,147
Speaker 14: and you know that was our first hit out. We

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01:51:00,147 --> 01:51:02,027
Speaker 14: didn't even have a friendly game to be fair between

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Speaker 14: old groups.

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Speaker 7: But I was very happy. And again, you know, like

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Speaker 7: even though.

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Speaker 14: We look at them as problems, or we could view

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01:51:10,507 --> 01:51:12,347
Speaker 14: them as problems, they are actually opportunity for us to

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01:51:13,027 --> 01:51:16,267
Speaker 14: refocus on what processes we put in for training and

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Speaker 14: so on.

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01:51:16,707 --> 01:51:18,747
Speaker 7: So it's been, it's been, it's been good.

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01:51:18,827 --> 01:51:22,227
Speaker 2: On the flip side, how different will the playing style

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01:51:22,267 --> 01:51:25,067
Speaker 2: of Wellington Phoenix be this season compared to last season?

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Speaker 2: What is the evolution of the side into season two

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Speaker 2: under your guidance?

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01:51:31,947 --> 01:51:35,747
Speaker 7: Look until you see it's it's you know, these are

2253
01:51:35,827 --> 01:51:36,347
Speaker 7: just words.

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01:51:37,707 --> 01:51:39,987
Speaker 14: But when I took over the team last year, I

2255
01:51:40,067 --> 01:51:44,187
Speaker 14: knew the capability of the existing players and I basically

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01:51:44,267 --> 01:51:48,987
Speaker 14: evolved the plague system to best suit the playing attributes

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01:51:49,027 --> 01:51:53,147
Speaker 14: of those players. So you know, obviously, when Oz got injured,

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01:51:53,227 --> 01:51:57,227
Speaker 14: you know, I readapted to a different sort of style.

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01:51:58,067 --> 01:52:00,907
Speaker 14: And then when I had Baldy Costa and Oldie or

2260
01:52:01,027 --> 01:52:04,147
Speaker 14: Crative up top, you know, I worked to what their

2261
01:52:04,187 --> 01:52:08,587
Speaker 14: main you know what the skill set like, for example,

2262
01:52:08,667 --> 01:52:12,187
Speaker 14: speed coming off the line, you know, playing with their

2263
01:52:12,227 --> 01:52:15,787
Speaker 14: back to goal. So this season is a little bit

2264
01:52:15,827 --> 01:52:20,427
Speaker 14: different where we're kind of you know, we've sold some

2265
01:52:20,627 --> 01:52:23,147
Speaker 14: good players, some of those senior players that have left

2266
01:52:23,187 --> 01:52:25,467
Speaker 14: of someone have given me the opportunity to bring in

2267
01:52:25,507 --> 01:52:26,427
Speaker 14: players more aligned to the.

2268
01:52:26,427 --> 01:52:28,667
Speaker 7: Way I like to or the way I like to

2269
01:52:28,707 --> 01:52:29,307
Speaker 7: see football.

2270
01:52:29,787 --> 01:52:31,987
Speaker 14: And for me, you know that that's more of the

2271
01:52:32,027 --> 01:52:34,507
Speaker 14: ball being more dominant with the ball, having control, with

2272
01:52:34,627 --> 01:52:37,427
Speaker 14: more of the ball in high parts of the pitch,

2273
01:52:38,907 --> 01:52:41,827
Speaker 14: and probably a little bit cliche, you know, like a

2274
01:52:42,307 --> 01:52:46,787
Speaker 14: ball orientated team, you know, possession team, so but also

2275
01:52:46,907 --> 01:52:50,627
Speaker 14: still center around the ideas of control and being very

2276
01:52:50,667 --> 01:52:51,747
Speaker 14: smart in all phases.

2277
01:52:51,867 --> 01:52:54,107
Speaker 7: So we'll still have that to build on.

2278
01:52:54,427 --> 01:52:57,027
Speaker 14: But you'll see that, you know, we'll have a different dynamic,

2279
01:52:57,187 --> 01:53:01,027
Speaker 14: especially in the front third, middle third. Hopefully you see

2280
01:53:01,107 --> 01:53:03,587
Speaker 14: a bit more pressing actions, so we will be a

2281
01:53:03,627 --> 01:53:06,067
Speaker 14: little bit high up the park, trying to have windows

2282
01:53:06,107 --> 01:53:08,947
Speaker 14: where we're trying to regain the bore at a high

2283
01:53:08,987 --> 01:53:12,747
Speaker 14: intensity for longer period. So everything we've done so far

2284
01:53:12,867 --> 01:53:16,667
Speaker 14: in the preseasons has been ticking over really nicely. There's

2285
01:53:16,707 --> 01:53:19,907
Speaker 14: been a nice dynamic and feel to the way we're playing.

2286
01:53:20,987 --> 01:53:24,547
Speaker 14: But like with all things, you know, different mentalities. You're

2287
01:53:24,547 --> 01:53:26,987
Speaker 14: trying to break old habits, you're trying to break behaviors

2288
01:53:27,027 --> 01:53:29,507
Speaker 14: that you know, we're instilled in the boys last year

2289
01:53:29,707 --> 01:53:33,587
Speaker 14: and trying to further develop so or evolve, and it's

2290
01:53:34,267 --> 01:53:35,507
Speaker 14: it has its challenges.

2291
01:53:36,227 --> 01:53:38,347
Speaker 7: You know, we've had three games that we haven't scored.

2292
01:53:38,787 --> 01:53:40,827
Speaker 14: But if I told you we had more opportunities in

2293
01:53:40,907 --> 01:53:42,947
Speaker 14: those last three games, and we did probably in half

2294
01:53:42,987 --> 01:53:45,347
Speaker 14: of the season last year, you'd think we're crazy. You know,

2295
01:53:45,427 --> 01:53:48,067
Speaker 14: it's just a matter of like finding you know, that

2296
01:53:48,267 --> 01:53:52,427
Speaker 14: last pass or that feel, and yeah, if I had

2297
01:53:52,507 --> 01:53:54,747
Speaker 14: gone into these games will come out of these games

2298
01:53:54,787 --> 01:53:58,467
Speaker 14: where we had less chances and we weren't getting to

2299
01:53:58,547 --> 01:53:59,027
Speaker 14: it we need.

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01:53:59,027 --> 01:54:02,147
Speaker 7: It, I'd be worried right now. But I just for me,

2301
01:54:02,267 --> 01:54:03,507
Speaker 7: it's like, I think we need one.

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01:54:03,507 --> 01:54:07,827
Speaker 14: Or two games where we take effect and you know,

2303
01:54:08,547 --> 01:54:10,347
Speaker 14: score a couple of goals and build the confidence of

2304
01:54:10,387 --> 01:54:12,227
Speaker 14: the boys, and then I think we'll hit the ground running.

2305
01:54:12,987 --> 01:54:15,147
Speaker 2: Was there any temptation given the fact that last season

2306
01:54:15,307 --> 01:54:18,107
Speaker 2: was so successful, even though it wasn't exactly the football

2307
01:54:18,147 --> 01:54:20,667
Speaker 2: that you envisaged that you want to play, was there

2308
01:54:20,707 --> 01:54:22,907
Speaker 2: any temptation just to lock and load it again and

2309
01:54:23,027 --> 01:54:23,867
Speaker 2: play the same way.

2310
01:54:24,707 --> 01:54:31,827
Speaker 14: Yeah, I think the problem when like if you take

2311
01:54:31,907 --> 01:54:36,387
Speaker 14: a step back and you see the you look at

2312
01:54:36,387 --> 01:54:38,627
Speaker 14: the legacy team. So I'll call legacy teams teams like

2313
01:54:38,787 --> 01:54:41,547
Speaker 14: especially in football, like a Barcelona twenty ten. You know

2314
01:54:41,587 --> 01:54:45,267
Speaker 14: that we had three years under Pep where even though

2315
01:54:45,427 --> 01:54:48,627
Speaker 14: they started with a certain style, they evolved every year.

2316
01:54:48,747 --> 01:54:51,427
Speaker 14: And then when Pep went to Bayern Munich, he changed

2317
01:54:51,427 --> 01:54:54,627
Speaker 14: his style because he was suited more towards the German game,

2318
01:54:55,147 --> 01:54:57,067
Speaker 14: more about you know, curbing the counter attack.

2319
01:54:57,107 --> 01:54:58,907
Speaker 7: And then when he went to the EPIL, you change

2320
01:54:58,947 --> 01:54:59,267
Speaker 7: as well.

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01:54:59,987 --> 01:55:02,507
Speaker 14: He had inverted full backs, he had you know, sixer

2322
01:55:02,547 --> 01:55:07,227
Speaker 14: stepping ins tens, and he completely different dynamic. And that's

2323
01:55:07,267 --> 01:55:09,307
Speaker 14: the running theme like with any team that you see,

2324
01:55:09,307 --> 01:55:11,947
Speaker 14: even Fergie when it was at United, even though he

2325
01:55:12,027 --> 01:55:14,907
Speaker 14: had an idea of how we played structurally and tactically,

2326
01:55:14,907 --> 01:55:18,347
Speaker 14: it always evolved, you know, different, different nuanced things that

2327
01:55:18,867 --> 01:55:21,067
Speaker 14: always changed. I think, you know, we're no different. So

2328
01:55:21,747 --> 01:55:23,347
Speaker 14: if I was to think that, you know, we're going

2329
01:55:23,387 --> 01:55:25,067
Speaker 14: to play the same way and get the same results,

2330
01:55:25,107 --> 01:55:27,947
Speaker 14: I think it's pretty naive of my part. And also

2331
01:55:28,067 --> 01:55:31,707
Speaker 14: like to think that I have more ideas and things

2332
01:55:31,747 --> 01:55:33,507
Speaker 14: that I want to you know, I want to see

2333
01:55:33,667 --> 01:55:36,547
Speaker 14: my teams and more importantly, I think one big thing

2334
01:55:36,627 --> 01:55:39,787
Speaker 14: that I want fans seeing this shoes when when they

2335
01:55:39,827 --> 01:55:41,667
Speaker 14: watch us player there's a nice energy to the way

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Speaker 14: we play and and anyone that watches us gets that

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01:55:45,747 --> 01:55:48,307
Speaker 14: same feeling of you know, like contentment and seeing us

2338
01:55:48,347 --> 01:55:50,667
Speaker 14: trying to play and be positive and even if we

2339
01:55:50,787 --> 01:55:52,747
Speaker 14: lose a game, you know that, you know, we're brave

2340
01:55:52,827 --> 01:55:55,867
Speaker 14: in what we do. And but there's you know, there's

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01:55:55,867 --> 01:55:58,387
Speaker 14: a lot of good forward intent, a lot of positivity

2342
01:55:58,427 --> 01:56:01,587
Speaker 14: and I think you know that's something that you evolve to.

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01:56:01,747 --> 01:56:03,627
Speaker 7: You don't. You can't ask for it overnight.

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01:56:04,107 --> 01:56:07,227
Speaker 14: Even when Angels at Brisbane, you know, like him, I

2345
01:56:07,307 --> 01:56:09,467
Speaker 14: think half a season he cleared out the players that

2346
01:56:09,667 --> 01:56:12,347
Speaker 14: you know needed to and he still struggled for results,

2347
01:56:12,387 --> 01:56:13,947
Speaker 14: but the intent was there and then the year after,

2348
01:56:14,147 --> 01:56:18,027
Speaker 14: you know, it kind of all came together. So again

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01:56:18,187 --> 01:56:21,307
Speaker 14: we have the advantage that we've had a really successful

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Speaker 14: season last year.

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01:56:22,867 --> 01:56:26,107
Speaker 7: But again last year, last year, that's done. Now we

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01:56:26,227 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 7: just need to build on all the good things that

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01:56:27,827 --> 01:56:28,067
Speaker 7: we did.

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01:56:28,987 --> 01:56:30,667
Speaker 2: Marco rohas has arrived at the club, I think it's

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01:56:31,107 --> 01:56:32,867
Speaker 2: at least the first game, maybe the second with a

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01:56:33,067 --> 01:56:36,867
Speaker 2: stress fracture, hopefully back soon. You mentioned in the press

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Speaker 2: release about Stephan Kolokovski how integral Marco roehas was going

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01:56:40,427 --> 01:56:43,467
Speaker 2: to be to your side. What will his involvement within

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01:56:43,547 --> 01:56:46,027
Speaker 2: your system look like Marco?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, so with Marco in the squad he has, the

2361
01:56:54,707 --> 01:56:56,627
Speaker 14: thing is is that we actually had to change just

2362
01:56:56,707 --> 01:56:59,907
Speaker 14: set up in order to cater for Marco's absence, So

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01:57:02,347 --> 01:57:05,267
Speaker 14: he has a bit of a creative role in behind

2364
01:57:05,427 --> 01:57:10,507
Speaker 14: Costa and also there's another player that would be on

2365
01:57:10,547 --> 01:57:13,707
Speaker 14: the other side, but with the freedom as well that

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01:57:13,867 --> 01:57:17,587
Speaker 14: he can play wide, he can come down lower, and

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01:57:18,227 --> 01:57:20,947
Speaker 14: you know, there's also an emphasis on those other supporting

2368
01:57:20,987 --> 01:57:24,747
Speaker 14: players that once he vacates a certain area, another player

2369
01:57:24,787 --> 01:57:30,027
Speaker 14: will step in. So yeah, it's he's very important. I think,

2370
01:57:30,787 --> 01:57:32,467
Speaker 14: you know, we spent most of the season or the

2371
01:57:32,507 --> 01:57:35,787
Speaker 14: preseason trying to build on his abilities, and he actually

2372
01:57:35,827 --> 01:57:38,387
Speaker 14: had a really nice chemistry recost on and there was

2373
01:57:38,427 --> 01:57:42,907
Speaker 14: something that we've been trying to you know, like flourish

2374
01:57:42,947 --> 01:57:46,147
Speaker 14: and encourage, but unfortunately, you know, whether it be down

2375
01:57:46,187 --> 01:57:49,027
Speaker 14: a scheduling and availability, it's been difficult to put those

2376
01:57:49,067 --> 01:57:52,787
Speaker 14: two together on the park, I think they've played. I

2377
01:57:52,867 --> 01:57:55,627
Speaker 14: think they've played forty five minutes together so far in

2378
01:57:55,707 --> 01:57:59,547
Speaker 14: a whole preseason, which has been disappointing. But again, once

2379
01:57:59,867 --> 01:58:03,947
Speaker 14: you know Marco is fully fit and we can reintegrate him,

2380
01:58:03,987 --> 01:58:06,027
Speaker 14: it's about also building his minutes in this early part

2381
01:58:06,067 --> 01:58:08,387
Speaker 14: of the season. I think once you know, we can

2382
01:58:08,427 --> 01:58:11,747
Speaker 14: get him close around sixty seventy minutes of just you know,

2383
01:58:13,107 --> 01:58:16,267
Speaker 14: vigorous football. I think those two together plus all the

2384
01:58:16,307 --> 01:58:18,187
Speaker 14: other boys will have a nice chemistry.

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Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to it.

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01:58:19,667 --> 01:58:22,267
Speaker 2: In your two new Japanese players, So Dicky is Sugar

2387
01:58:22,427 --> 01:58:27,627
Speaker 2: and Kazuki Nagasawa tell us about how they've fitted in

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01:58:27,747 --> 01:58:29,787
Speaker 2: and what we can hope to see from them this season.

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Speaker 7: So I was lucky enough.

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01:58:31,107 --> 01:58:34,387
Speaker 14: I've known I've watched Shigi play for a long time,

2391
01:58:36,147 --> 01:58:38,107
Speaker 14: and I was lucky enough to you know, I made

2392
01:58:38,147 --> 01:58:41,547
Speaker 14: contact with his agent and were able to make the deal.

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01:58:42,547 --> 01:58:47,307
Speaker 14: Kazuki I knew from his days actually playing in Germany

2394
01:58:48,347 --> 01:58:50,307
Speaker 14: because I used to follow the Bundesliga quite a bit,

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01:58:50,427 --> 01:58:54,907
Speaker 14: so I had familiararity with those two players. So when

2396
01:58:54,947 --> 01:58:56,827
Speaker 14: the opportunity came for them to come across, I was

2397
01:58:56,827 --> 01:59:02,067
Speaker 14: actually quite excited and sorry, But the question was how

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01:59:02,107 --> 01:59:02,747
Speaker 14: they're integrated.

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01:59:02,747 --> 01:59:03,107
Speaker 13: I think.

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01:59:04,987 --> 01:59:08,827
Speaker 14: That so far they both done very well in the environment.

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01:59:09,027 --> 01:59:11,947
Speaker 14: I think obviously, you know, for me, language is a

2402
01:59:12,067 --> 01:59:18,027
Speaker 14: huge is a huge barrier. Kazuki, you know, He's English

2403
01:59:18,227 --> 01:59:24,147
Speaker 14: is pretty good. Sigis is getting better. He's starting to

2404
01:59:24,227 --> 01:59:26,387
Speaker 14: understand my bad jokes, which is which is a good,

2405
01:59:26,507 --> 01:59:27,587
Speaker 14: which is a good.

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01:59:28,147 --> 01:59:30,027
Speaker 7: It's a good start. But I think that.

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01:59:34,667 --> 01:59:39,107
Speaker 14: What's been promising is SIGI's first game against Newcastle, probably

2408
01:59:39,107 --> 01:59:41,427
Speaker 14: about half an hour, found it very hard to get

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01:59:41,427 --> 01:59:44,747
Speaker 14: in the game, get touches. And then the second game

2410
01:59:44,787 --> 01:59:48,907
Speaker 14: against Wanderers he had a little bit more time, started

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01:59:49,027 --> 01:59:51,267
Speaker 14: getting into the into the play. It's still a little

2412
01:59:51,267 --> 01:59:53,787
Speaker 14: bit clunky, and then this last game against Mariners he

2413
01:59:53,907 --> 01:59:57,587
Speaker 14: basically grew in confidence and got a lot more touches

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01:59:57,667 --> 02:00:02,187
Speaker 14: and you could see like him, Costa and Bali and

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Speaker 14: I'm just trying to think of the young boys who

2416
02:00:05,827 --> 02:00:08,867
Speaker 14: played Oscar Van hadn't started to build a bit of

2417
02:00:08,907 --> 02:00:13,347
Speaker 14: a dynamic, and with Redtrey as well, so they're slowly

2418
02:00:13,427 --> 02:00:14,107
Speaker 14: coming along, you know.

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02:00:14,187 --> 02:00:16,907
Speaker 7: Kazuki as well. Like Kazuki was lucky.

2420
02:00:16,707 --> 02:00:20,547
Speaker 14: Enough that he's been playing regular minutes at Velgeta previously,

2421
02:00:21,267 --> 02:00:22,747
Speaker 14: but he had a bit of time off and he

2422
02:00:23,067 --> 02:00:25,187
Speaker 14: know deloaded and now it's just trying to build ninety

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Speaker 14: minutes again.

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Speaker 7: But you can tell he's got a lot of class.

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Speaker 14: You know, There's there's just something about both of those

2426
02:00:31,307 --> 02:00:34,667
Speaker 14: players playing under pressure technically that it's really nice to watch.

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Speaker 14: And I think for me, it's just putting him in

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Speaker 14: those positions where they can absorb that pressure and that

2429
02:00:40,667 --> 02:00:43,387
Speaker 14: will give us a different dimension as the season progresses,

2430
02:00:43,827 --> 02:00:44,747
Speaker 14: all just to finish.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel ready?

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02:00:47,147 --> 02:00:47,307
Speaker 20: Well?

2433
02:00:47,347 --> 02:00:50,627
Speaker 2: What is your sense of how ready this team is

2434
02:00:50,747 --> 02:00:55,827
Speaker 2: to play well, maybe not perfectly immediately, but to play

2435
02:00:55,907 --> 02:00:57,107
Speaker 2: well from the start.

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02:01:01,467 --> 02:01:03,707
Speaker 7: Do I feel ready? I don't think I ever feel ready.

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02:01:04,227 --> 02:01:06,827
Speaker 14: Even last year I didn't think, you know, when we

2438
02:01:06,907 --> 02:01:10,267
Speaker 14: went into the season it was more about building. Last

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02:01:10,347 --> 02:01:12,467
Speaker 14: year was more about building belief in the group and

2440
02:01:13,027 --> 02:01:15,827
Speaker 14: churning results and getting to a point where you know

2441
02:01:15,907 --> 02:01:18,587
Speaker 14: the boys understood the system well and you know we

2442
02:01:18,627 --> 02:01:21,267
Speaker 14: could build. I think this year is there's a higher

2443
02:01:21,387 --> 02:01:25,867
Speaker 14: expectation of the playing style and I think where my

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02:01:25,987 --> 02:01:30,347
Speaker 14: frustration was sometimes which will further ahead, But given the

2445
02:01:30,747 --> 02:01:34,067
Speaker 14: circumstances of the preseason, where where just you know we've

2446
02:01:34,147 --> 02:01:35,547
Speaker 14: had so many obstacles.

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Speaker 7: I'm actually quite impressed at how far the team's teams come.

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Speaker 14: I think it will take us about forty six games

2449
02:01:44,467 --> 02:01:46,667
Speaker 14: roughly before we start hitting our straps.

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Speaker 7: And what I mean by that is building continuity, building.

2451
02:01:50,627 --> 02:01:53,467
Speaker 14: Dynamic and starting players, and also having that competition, the

2452
02:01:53,547 --> 02:01:55,627
Speaker 14: intensity of competition, plus to travel.

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02:01:55,787 --> 02:01:56,187
Speaker 6: And so on.

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Speaker 14: I think once we're able to get all that and

2455
02:02:01,027 --> 02:02:02,987
Speaker 14: the boys have a confidence in what we're trying to do,

2456
02:02:03,147 --> 02:02:08,827
Speaker 14: I think it will come together. So I know it's

2457
02:02:08,867 --> 02:02:11,347
Speaker 14: a long answer, but in short I would say I'm

2458
02:02:11,387 --> 02:02:17,267
Speaker 14: not entirely satisfied, but at the same time, given what's happened,

2459
02:02:17,347 --> 02:02:19,427
Speaker 14: I'm happy how things are going.

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Speaker 2: Good to have an extended chat with John Kloertaliano, coach

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02:02:22,547 --> 02:02:24,907
Speaker 2: of Wellington Phoenix. Their first game a week today Western

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02:02:25,027 --> 02:02:28,227
Speaker 2: United four o'clock Sky Stadium for Auckland FC. It is

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Speaker 2: this coming Saturday, five o'clock. Go medium out smart against

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Speaker 2: Brisbane Raw. Nine areway from three just before we go

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Speaker 2: to the break. Canterbury have monstered Tasman in the first

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02:02:38,307 --> 02:02:41,547
Speaker 2: half in Blenham thirty three points to seven. They lead

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Speaker 2: a bit of work to do for the muck or

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02:02:43,547 --> 02:02:45,867
Speaker 2: in the second half nine to three News Talk Hippi.

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Speaker 28: When it's down to the line.

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Speaker 1: You made a call on eight ten eighty Weekend Sports

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Speaker 1: with Jason Payne, News Talk.

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Speaker 2: ZIMBI six away from three. That is Weekend Sport for

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Speaker 2: another Sunday and another weekend. Really appreciate you listening in.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking part in the conversation or interacting with

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Speaker 2: us electronically if that's what you chose to do. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: your feedback and your and you're taking the time to

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Speaker 2: phone or via text or email. Huge thanks to any

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Speaker 2: McDonald for putting the show together and making sure that

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Speaker 2: everything ran smoothly, which I think that it did. Tim

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Speaker 2: Beverage is on the radio after three o'clock with the

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Speaker 2: Weekend Collective Exit song. Today, Andy, do you know what

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Speaker 2: the mid Canterbury rugby team's nicknamers?

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Speaker 20: Oh?

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Speaker 2: They're the Hammers, aren't they? They are the Hammers? And

2486
02:03:33,787 --> 02:03:41,707
Speaker 2: given that, if you're me what the great nineties hits?

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02:03:42,187 --> 02:03:46,347
Speaker 2: It is the great nineties sets. You've finally done something right, Piney.

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Speaker 2: It's good. It's only taken me until two fifty five

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Speaker 2: on Sunday to achieve it. Congratulations to the Mid Canterbury

2490
02:03:55,387 --> 02:03:59,947
Speaker 2: Hammers getting rid of South Canterbury's long running winning streak

2491
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Speaker 2: and earning their place in the Meads Cup Final in

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02:04:03,587 --> 02:04:06,947
Speaker 2: the Heartland Championship. I hope you've enjoyed you die boys,

2493
02:04:06,987 --> 02:04:08,187
Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great way to hit

2494
02:04:08,227 --> 02:04:10,307
Speaker 2: of the final next week. Thank you again for joining us.

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Speaker 2: We're back on Sports Talk tomorrow night seven through eight pm. Buffing.

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Speaker 28: Now, okay, this.

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Speaker 5: Bring it down, have a time as we got to

2498
02:04:35,747 --> 02:04:37,747
Speaker 5: see me God have was this no height?

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Speaker 30: I'm going I'm magic bipe down Alba, stop this with

2500
02:04:45,747 --> 02:04:48,387
Speaker 30: up the stake back then just help it.

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Speaker 5: I'm going out the world from London to have got here.

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Speaker 5: Have the rest take don't get play. You can't touch this,

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02:04:59,307 --> 02:05:00,027
Speaker 5: you can't touch this.

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02:05:02,907 --> 02:05:03,667
Speaker 7: You can't touch this.

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Speaker 5: True. TRUSTe.

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