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Speaker 1: Barry Soper, Senior Political Correspondence with that's hallo, Barry.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Hither.

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Speaker 2: I've got to say I've been to many supermarkets overseas,

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Speaker 2: normally trailing after a prime minister looking for New Zealand products.

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Speaker 1: This is they love it. I got a text from

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Speaker 1: somebody who was, like Jerry Brownlee when he gets god

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Speaker 1: as itinerary would always make sure that he was going

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Speaker 1: to supermarkets for that reason. Right, they go and they

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Speaker 1: make sure we've got some mainland shada there. But that's

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Speaker 1: a good reason to go. I mean, just having a

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Speaker 1: look at the terror issue is probably not. But whatever

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Speaker 1: each their own. Now the Winston Peter's racism has come

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Speaker 1: up again today, has it well?

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Speaker 2: As alleged racism. Let's say he seemed to suggest yesterday

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Speaker 2: that Minister Scott Simpson shouldn't be answering a question from

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Speaker 2: an MP because he came from Rara Tongua. Now Peter's

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Speaker 2: obviously was out of sem I think he cocked up

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Speaker 2: the question basically, and he was taking an exception to

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Speaker 2: the fact that the Green MP as they'll want to

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Speaker 2: to use the term out here, are rather than New

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Speaker 2: Zealand and Winston that's he's been on that.

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Speaker 1: That's a common theme.

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Speaker 2: It is a common him for him. But of course

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Speaker 2: he was accused of racism by Chris Hipkins. But the

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Speaker 2: most outraged MP in the House today because Hipkins wasn't there,

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Speaker 2: was Labour's Willie Jackson, who frequently uses the word racism

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Speaker 2: to describe people.

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Speaker 4: Here he is what we heard yesterday was one of

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Speaker 4: the worst things I think we've ever heard in the house.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sorry, and I take mister Speaker.

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Speaker 4: They can laugh on the other side just a moment,

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Speaker 4: but mister Speaker, I take personal offense at what the

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Speaker 4: minister has said, and I asked that he'd be asked

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Speaker 4: to withdraw and apologize.

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Speaker 5: On what basis you take that offense? And why didn't

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Speaker 5: you do that yesterday? I think yesterday so many of.

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Speaker 4: Us were in shop at the at that at the

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Speaker 4: at what mister Peter said, But.

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Speaker 3: To Speaker, if Willie Jackson would like to start retrospectively

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Speaker 3: of apologizing for racist things, he said, then he should

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Speaker 3: fill his boots.

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Speaker 5: What I simply made the point is that mister Jackson,

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Speaker 5: in the honor Willie Jackson, in his offering to the house,

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Speaker 5: they said that he was. I think he said deeply

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Speaker 5: personally offended, and I suggest if that's how he felt

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Speaker 5: at the time, he should have mentioned it. It's not

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Speaker 5: unreasonable for me to do that.

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Speaker 4: Point of speak, will speak, I'm still personally offended. They

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Speaker 4: sit down, Seymour, Yeah, let's stay there.

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Speaker 2: That's Willie. He stopped short of pointing when he did

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Speaker 2: point his finger at David Seymour, but didn't use the

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Speaker 2: word when it related to him. But sure, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he has done in the past. And you know, remember

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Speaker 2: he questioned the moldiness of Paula Bennett once. That was

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Speaker 2: just once. There are so many instances of Willie Jackson

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Speaker 2: being called out for using the word race.

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Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm wrong. But I saw this pop

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Speaker 1: up yesterday and I thought, this is so boring. I

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Speaker 1: am not interested in this. It's yet another minor little

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Speaker 1: scuffle that we're going to call racism when it really isn't.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like the public actually deserves better.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was the hypocrisy today that I no.

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Speaker 1: I mean not from you. I think it's fair from you.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's from these guys trying to turn

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Speaker 1: this into a thing. It's not a thing. Anyway, But

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Speaker 1: now I'm going to turn it into a thing and

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Speaker 1: maybe take it to the huddle. Thank you, Gerris right.

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Speaker 1: Green's on the roads of national significance, Yes, well.

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Speaker 2: The government's roads of national significance, of course, and the

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Speaker 2: money being dedicated to them was in the Greens firing

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Speaker 2: line today, And of course leading the charge was the

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Speaker 2: former Minister of Transport, Julianne Genta. And you know I

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Speaker 2: hadn't seen her around for a while asking questions, but

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Speaker 2: there she was. But her line of questioning till Nikola

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Speaker 2: Willis was interrupted by none other than the aforementioned Winston Peters,

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Speaker 2: who won fairly one praise from the Finance Minister.

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Speaker 4: Had she seen the full business case for a second

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Speaker 4: Mount Victoria tunnel before campaigning for it and committing to

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Speaker 4: it as a priority project.

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Speaker 6: I have found that that investment case stacks up.

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Speaker 7: In questioning Ronald Winster Peters, does the Minister consider that

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Speaker 7: wild bureaucrats can conjure up positive benefit cost ratios for

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Speaker 7: many ideas when faced with limited finances, and a pragmatic

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Speaker 7: person would choose to fix pipesover buildings, new cycle lanes.

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Speaker 6: Well, mister Speaker of only the former Wellington City Council

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Speaker 6: had had the full sight of that, Minister.

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Speaker 3: Does the Minister consider contract courageous to carry on with

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Speaker 3: a four billion cost blowout in a simple Fary and

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Speaker 3: war replacement project? Or was it courageous to stop it,

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Speaker 3: fix it and save the taxpayer two point three billion dollars?

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Speaker 6: Indeed, Minister, and I would also reflect that sometimes those

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Speaker 6: in glasshouses should not be throwing stones or sitting next

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Speaker 6: to Tamitha Pool who built cycle ways instead of fixing

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Speaker 6: the pipes.

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Speaker 2: Of course Tamotha Poul was a former Wellington City councilor

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Speaker 2: so to point the finger at.

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Speaker 1: Her, Barry, thank you very much, appreciate it. It's Barry Soper,

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Speaker 1: Senior Political Correspondence.

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