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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at BID Your weekend off the Right Way.

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Speaker 2: Saturday Morning with Jack Tam News Talks at b.

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Speaker 3: Calton, New Zealand. Good morning and welcome to news doorgs ZEDV.

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Speaker 3: Jack Tame in the hot seat with you this Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: and we have a stupendous show lined up for you today.

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Speaker 3: It's a real potpourri this morning's offerings.

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Speaker 4: We have.

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Speaker 3: Just nothing major, nothing to get too excited about. Just

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Speaker 3: the secret to living a longer life. I promise we're

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Speaker 3: not going to be asking you to give us five

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Speaker 3: payments of ninety nine ninety five or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to take a look at the Earth's blue

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Speaker 3: zones this morning, these little parts of these little pockets

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Speaker 3: around the world where, for whatever reason, larger numbers of

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Speaker 3: people make it to one hundred years old. So we

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Speaker 3: mentioned these a couple of weeks ago. Now we've got

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Speaker 3: a bit more detail, a bit more data on it

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Speaker 3: for you, So we're going to share some of those

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Speaker 3: secrets very shortly. As well as that feature interview after

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Speaker 3: ten o'clock this morning is none other than Kiwi Hollywood

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Speaker 3: legend Cliff Curtis. He is one of the stars, one

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Speaker 3: of the several Kiwi stars in the new Jason momoora

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Speaker 3: series that is on Apple TV Plus. The series is

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Speaker 3: called Chief of War and it has got all of

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Speaker 3: the glitzy kind of production values that you would expect

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Speaker 3: from Apple TV Plus. So Cliff Curtis is going to

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Speaker 3: be with us right after the ten o'clock news this morning.

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Speaker 3: Cannot wait for that right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 3: Back team, Are you better off than you were two

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Speaker 3: years ago? Are you bathing in the soothing waters of

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Speaker 3: the long promised economic recovery? Is your future more secure?

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Speaker 3: Is your food more affordable? Your insurance your rates? Is

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Speaker 3: your roads smoother? Are your children better educated? Is your

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Speaker 3: water less polluted? Or do you think that some of

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Speaker 3: our most senior leaders time and attention is better used

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Speaker 3: fussing over measures like the order of words on our

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Speaker 3: passports and the transfer of payWave fees from a surcharge

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Speaker 3: to the main bill. The latest folly announced by our

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Speaker 3: foreign minister, on a week in which Gaza was stricken

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Speaker 3: by a starvation in the US, thanked US for opening

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Speaker 3: an FBI office here by increasing proposed trade tariffs seeks

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Speaker 3: to enshrine the name New Zealand in law. Ah, yes,

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Speaker 3: what a pressing issue. Tell you what between that and

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Speaker 3: the passport reordering, those tens or hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 3: kids have fled to Australia are going to be clamoring

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Speaker 3: over one another to get back home asap. Here's my

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Speaker 3: view on the name of our country. Call it what

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Speaker 3: you want. You want to call it alter or, fine,

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Speaker 3: you want to call it New Zealand. Fine. You want

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Speaker 3: to combine the two alter or New Zealand, fine, go

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Speaker 3: for it, you do you The thing about language is

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Speaker 3: it's fluid, right, It does change over time. There's a

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Speaker 3: good reason we don't all speak in Shakespeareian pros and

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Speaker 3: it has nothing to do with compulsion. To those who

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Speaker 3: say an increasing use of alteraor is some sort of

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Speaker 3: an affront to our collective values as a nation, well,

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Speaker 3: I would have thought that freedom of expression is a

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Speaker 3: value much more worthy of protection and for what it's worth.

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Speaker 3: If New Zealand first was trying to enshrine the name

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Speaker 3: alter Or in law, I would have the same response.

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Speaker 3: One of the justifications given for this member's bill is

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Speaker 3: that using alteror threatens end z inc our international brand.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask, is there any evidence that our exporters

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Speaker 3: are being compelled en mass to send their products overseas

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Speaker 3: with the name Altor instead of New Zealand. Who, pray tell,

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Speaker 3: is risking that international brand value by forcing this change

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Speaker 3: on the packaging of our top products. I'd suggest it's

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Speaker 3: a pretty unsophisticated exporter who would voluntarily confuse their international customers.

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Speaker 3: Or you know, maybe this just isn't really a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I've a real distaste for performative politics that either drum

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Speaker 3: up angst about a problem that doesn't exist, or do

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Speaker 3: something symbolic at the expense of real action. So I

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Speaker 3: never cared, for example, for the trend of counsels and

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Speaker 3: governments declaring climate emergencies so bravely patting themselves on the

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Speaker 3: There is a very simple way to see through this

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Speaker 3: specific bill. Just consider the timing. If the name of

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Speaker 3: enshrine it in law, why did New Zealand first introduce

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Speaker 3: this bill twelve months ago? Why not three years ago?

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Speaker 3: Why not negotiat in the coalition agreement when they formed

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Speaker 3: achieve or why is this an issue? Instead ask what

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Speaker 3: MECH jobs report, the lame economic growth figures, the gang

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Speaker 3: this week? Or could it possibly be the fact that

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Speaker 3: a few hours before the New Zealand Name of State

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Speaker 3: Member's Bill was announced, Australia and the UK achieved comparatively

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Speaker 3: lower trade tariffs with the US, while our government's top

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Speaker 3: trade and diplomatic officials were apparently surprised to learn that

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Speaker 3: our tariff had been increased. Actually, you know, come to

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Speaker 3: think of it, maybe we should call ourselves altor who knows,

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Speaker 3: it might have confused Donald Trump just long enough to

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Speaker 3: keep us at ten percent. Jack Team text number if

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Speaker 3: you want to send us a message this morning, don't

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Speaker 3: forget that. If you're sending me a text standard text

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Speaker 3: cost supply, you can email me as well if you like.

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Speaker 3: Jack at Newstalks dB dot co dot nz. Before ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock this morning. Tis the season for hot apple pies.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I actually came home last night that

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Speaker 3: you know that there are a few like pleasures or

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Speaker 3: joys in life, like walking through the door on a

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Speaker 3: cold winter's evening, the front door, opening the door, and

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Speaker 3: you feel the kind of pressure change and you'll hit

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Speaker 3: with the smell of warm apples baking. My wife had

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Speaker 3: made a delicious apple and rubab crumble last night. And

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Speaker 3: you know that just that first second or two as

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Speaker 3: you push open the door and you're surprised by that smell.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that is glory right there. Kevin, Melon's

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Speaker 3: gonna kick us off next. It's thirteen past night, It's

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Speaker 3: Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tame and this is news doalg zedb.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jacky Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks V being

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Speaker 3: On News storks eDV. Yes, the flood of texts come

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Speaker 3: and Jack totally disagree with you. Put it to a referendum. Jack,

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Speaker 3: you're on point this morning. I agree. It's just a

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Speaker 3: distractionary effort at a time when there are much more

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Speaker 3: pressing issues. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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Speaker 3: see me a message this morning, Jack at Newstalks. EDB

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Speaker 3: dot co dot nz is the email address. Hey, this

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Speaker 3: Chief of War series, this Jason Mamore series in which

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Speaker 3: Cliff Curtis and Tim Wedder Morrison and Lucian Buchanan, all

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Speaker 3: these key we actors are starring. One of the things

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Speaker 3: producing it, said that he it was really important to

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Speaker 3: and know a fair bit of Maudi, who are then

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Speaker 3: having to speak in a Hawaiian language, which is really intriguing.

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Speaker 3: I don't actually think there are there are heaps of

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Speaker 3: the you know, one of the curious little details about

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Speaker 3: this Chief of War production that I'm going to ask

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Speaker 3: Cliff Curtis about. After ten o'clock this morning, right now,

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Speaker 3: those seventeen past nine and Kevin Melon's here with us

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Speaker 5: Killd to Kevin Jack, you're more than one point You're

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Speaker 5: on fire this morning.

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Speaker 2: That was terrific.

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Speaker 3: Wow, you obviously don't have access to our text machine

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Speaker 3: at the moment. Kevin, I'm not sure you hold the

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Speaker 3: consensus view, but that's all right, it's a yeah. I

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Speaker 3: just think my you know, I just think if you

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Speaker 3: if you want to call any own, if you want

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Speaker 3: to call all good and I just think there are

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Speaker 3: so many issues that are more worthy of you know,

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Speaker 3: maybe even me mentioning that this morning means I'm getting

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Speaker 3: sucked into the vortex. I can't I can't resist it anyway, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: you are planning a trip to London.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've got a trip to London coming up,

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Speaker 5: essentially to see two of our boys, Alex and Jake

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Speaker 5: and their home patch. Jake manages a Danish pub in

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Speaker 5: London's x Smouth Market. It belongs to Rick Astley. Story

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Speaker 5: in himself a huge hit in nineteen eighty seven, Never

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Speaker 5: Going to Give You Up number one and twenty five

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Speaker 5: countries at the time. Astrey's career was revitalized by the

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Speaker 5: random appearance of a Rick rolling meme on the Internet

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Speaker 5: using the video for Never Going to Give You Up,

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Speaker 5: which spread all over the world. Rick Castrees has now

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Speaker 5: reached one point six billion views on YouTube. Anyway, even

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Speaker 5: if I don't knock into Wreck, I'm keen to see

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Speaker 5: Jake's Scandinavian design pub and the in house brewery. I

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Speaker 5: might have a bear there my other son, as I've

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Speaker 5: told you about where it's for a coffee company that

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Speaker 5: trains selected crims to become barristas before their release. So

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Speaker 5: I may get to prison while I'm over there. Something

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Speaker 5: very special about the trip, sort of the last minute thing.

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Speaker 5: We're zipping over to visit the New Zealand wargraves of

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Speaker 5: Belgium and France to paid tribute to two great uncles,

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Speaker 5: identical twins, Leo and Lawrence Donahue, killed in World War One,

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Speaker 5: just twenty one years old. This is a long time

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Speaker 5: straight to the war cemeteries you want to visit and

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Speaker 5: staying at the Novertel Flounders clutch the odd ring about

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Speaker 5: it anyway, I mentioned the trip to the Wargraves because

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Speaker 5: I know a lot of Keyws that came to pay

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Speaker 5: respects to their relations killed in Europe. It is so

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Speaker 5: easy out of London if you just had to be

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it sounds amazing, Kevin, I'm deeply envious. So

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Speaker 3: just just remind me of my geography here. Right if

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Speaker 3: Belgian border. A so you're actually instead of going all

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Speaker 3: the way to Paris, can you get off the train

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Speaker 3: before getting to Paris?

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Speaker 5: Well well before then? Yeah, right, yeah, really about it.

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Speaker 5: It's a two and a half hour trip to Lele

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Speaker 5: from London and one only one train, so you so

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Speaker 5: it's on the main it's on the main route.

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Speaker 3: It's like going from Wellington to Paris and north or something.

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Speaker 3: It is. This is the thing I'm always I always

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Speaker 6: Good morning sir, In morning Jack, I'm still getting over

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Speaker 3: this weekend, More Dinner, Good morning. Okay, two very different

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Speaker 9: and I can totally see why it is. It is entertaining,

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00:23:45,933 --> 00:23:49,853
Speaker 9: but it's thought provoking and chilling, and it really is

432
00:23:50,093 --> 00:23:53,653
Speaker 9: quite wonderful. I'd just like to say straight up, Jack,

433
00:23:53,773 --> 00:23:56,533
Speaker 9: some people might be going an Iranian film. The last

434
00:23:56,653 --> 00:23:59,293
Speaker 9: Aranian film I watched with two and a half hours long.

435
00:23:59,373 --> 00:24:02,613
Speaker 9: Can I just say this is a really great one hour.

436
00:24:02,533 --> 00:24:08,133
Speaker 3: Forty Okay, good, Yeah, this is the films before.

437
00:24:07,853 --> 00:24:09,533
Speaker 9: And it's a great get for them to have the

438
00:24:09,613 --> 00:24:12,533
Speaker 9: storm to open it really epanastics. It starts off, as

439
00:24:12,573 --> 00:24:13,973
Speaker 9: I mentioned, as a bit of a comedy. There's a

440
00:24:14,013 --> 00:24:17,373
Speaker 9: lot of black humor. He set our vain character and

441
00:24:18,813 --> 00:24:21,733
Speaker 9: one night he's working at a garage and one night

442
00:24:21,853 --> 00:24:25,053
Speaker 9: a family breaks down outside his garage. And I ask

443
00:24:25,133 --> 00:24:29,693
Speaker 9: for help. And when he comes, when the gentleman comes in,

444
00:24:30,653 --> 00:24:36,213
Speaker 9: he recognizes the squeak of his false legs to be

445
00:24:36,373 --> 00:24:41,053
Speaker 9: that of the intelligence officer who interrogated him and talked

446
00:24:41,093 --> 00:24:43,133
Speaker 9: with him while he was in prison. And he just

447
00:24:43,333 --> 00:24:46,653
Speaker 9: has this moment and he hears his voice and he's

448
00:24:46,853 --> 00:24:50,973
Speaker 9: short as him. So he follows some homes if he lives,

449
00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:52,973
Speaker 9: and then he cannot get this out of his mind.

450
00:24:53,013 --> 00:24:55,373
Speaker 9: He's closed them. The next day and he gets an

451
00:24:55,373 --> 00:24:58,213
Speaker 9: opportunity to hit him with a fand so he hits

452
00:24:58,293 --> 00:24:59,813
Speaker 9: him with a fand he puts them in the van

453
00:25:00,133 --> 00:25:01,653
Speaker 9: and then he takes them out to the desert where

454
00:25:01,653 --> 00:25:03,253
Speaker 9: he plans to bury him. But then he has a

455
00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:06,773
Speaker 9: little moment where he goes bury him alive, hang on

456
00:25:06,853 --> 00:25:09,453
Speaker 9: about it, a better check he is the right person.

457
00:25:09,653 --> 00:25:11,733
Speaker 9: And so then we go off on this wonderful little

458
00:25:11,773 --> 00:25:15,133
Speaker 9: journey as he picks up other political business who have

459
00:25:15,173 --> 00:25:18,453
Speaker 9: been released to try and identify this character. Is he

460
00:25:18,613 --> 00:25:21,533
Speaker 9: really the intelligence officer who ruined so many of their

461
00:25:21,613 --> 00:25:25,373
Speaker 9: lives and tortured them and things. So it's wonderfully, it's wonderfully,

462
00:25:25,973 --> 00:25:28,173
Speaker 9: it's humorous, and they do it does beautiful, but As

463
00:25:28,213 --> 00:25:30,413
Speaker 9: the film goes on, it gets more and more serious

464
00:25:30,493 --> 00:25:32,413
Speaker 9: and it sort of leads to this, and it becomes

465
00:25:32,453 --> 00:25:33,733
Speaker 9: a bit of a thriller and in a way a

466
00:25:33,773 --> 00:25:36,093
Speaker 9: bit of a horror, and it leads to this very

467
00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:38,973
Speaker 9: tension field explosive in there where you're not quite sure

468
00:25:39,093 --> 00:25:42,133
Speaker 9: how things are going to go. It really is absolutely

469
00:25:42,173 --> 00:25:45,093
Speaker 9: fantastic and an incredible look at sort of the reality

470
00:25:45,133 --> 00:25:49,853
Speaker 9: of life and around very intimate Jack because obviously he

471
00:25:50,013 --> 00:25:53,173
Speaker 9: cannot go out and make it obvious to everybody. He's

472
00:25:53,213 --> 00:25:55,173
Speaker 9: making a film. A lot of a lot of the

473
00:25:55,453 --> 00:25:57,573
Speaker 9: you know, the shots are the film is shot from

474
00:25:57,733 --> 00:26:03,173
Speaker 9: inside a van or quite interior locations or quite quiet locations.

475
00:26:03,253 --> 00:26:06,933
Speaker 3: It's not a they're setting up, blocking off a few

476
00:26:06,973 --> 00:26:09,293
Speaker 3: streets and having big rigs and that kind of thing.

477
00:26:09,373 --> 00:26:11,733
Speaker 9: No, No, that really adds to it and it kind

478
00:26:11,773 --> 00:26:14,533
Speaker 9: of brings you into these people's story. So yeah, it's

479
00:26:14,693 --> 00:26:18,253
Speaker 9: absolutely fantastic. We're seeing at the festival. I'm pretty sure

480
00:26:18,373 --> 00:26:20,813
Speaker 9: we'll come back at some point to general release, but

481
00:26:21,173 --> 00:26:23,773
Speaker 9: the festival screenings will be full and it is a

482
00:26:23,853 --> 00:26:25,533
Speaker 9: wonderful film to see surround us.

483
00:26:25,933 --> 00:26:26,653
Speaker 10: I love people. No.

484
00:26:26,813 --> 00:26:29,293
Speaker 3: I saw that at one at carn and once the

485
00:26:29,453 --> 00:26:30,053
Speaker 3: Film Festival.

486
00:26:30,093 --> 00:26:30,293
Speaker 2: Got it.

487
00:26:30,373 --> 00:26:31,653
Speaker 3: I just thought, oh my gosh, I gotta go and

488
00:26:31,693 --> 00:26:34,053
Speaker 3: see that. Sounds amazing. So that is it was just

489
00:26:34,293 --> 00:26:37,493
Speaker 3: an accident showing at the New Zealand International Film Festival.

490
00:26:37,853 --> 00:26:41,093
Speaker 3: Next up, like I said, something completely different, the story

491
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:43,933
Speaker 3: of friend of the Show Dave Fishwick, who of course

492
00:26:43,973 --> 00:26:46,773
Speaker 3: we interviewed when Bank of Dave one was introduced. This

493
00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:50,533
Speaker 3: is Bank of Dave two. I'm dere do I know you?

494
00:26:51,613 --> 00:27:03,693
Speaker 11: The Bank of deav of Dave, Dad Guilty's job?

495
00:27:04,973 --> 00:27:07,453
Speaker 3: Okay? Tell us about a Francisco okay.

496
00:27:07,573 --> 00:27:11,253
Speaker 9: So this is another predictable but lovely story of Burnley

497
00:27:11,413 --> 00:27:14,413
Speaker 9: businessman who sold bands, of course, and as you will

498
00:27:14,453 --> 00:27:16,013
Speaker 9: know Jack, he sort of took on the banks by

499
00:27:16,053 --> 00:27:18,333
Speaker 9: starting his own community bank, Bank a Day so the

500
00:27:18,373 --> 00:27:20,533
Speaker 9: little people were able to get loans. And in this

501
00:27:20,653 --> 00:27:23,773
Speaker 9: particular story, he is We've got a very similar narrative.

502
00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:26,093
Speaker 9: He is taking on the payday lenders, you know, the

503
00:27:26,173 --> 00:27:29,693
Speaker 9: online venders who charge a fortune and insurance and we're

504
00:27:29,733 --> 00:27:32,653
Speaker 9: ruining people's lives in the community. So once again Joe

505
00:27:32,733 --> 00:27:36,813
Speaker 9: steps up to help these ordinary people, vulnerable people whose

506
00:27:36,893 --> 00:27:40,093
Speaker 9: lives have been you know, really affected by this, and

507
00:27:40,213 --> 00:27:42,213
Speaker 9: he wants to do something about it, and so off

508
00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:44,693
Speaker 9: he goes. But the Payday members they fight back and

509
00:27:44,773 --> 00:27:46,813
Speaker 9: they fight dirty, and there is sort of a connection

510
00:27:46,933 --> 00:27:50,653
Speaker 9: to American businessmen and ties to organized crime. But essentially

511
00:27:50,693 --> 00:27:53,613
Speaker 9: it really does unfold very much like the first film.

512
00:27:53,813 --> 00:27:58,173
Speaker 9: But I think it's all about the performances and they

513
00:27:58,253 --> 00:28:03,373
Speaker 9: are very heartfelt and Rory Kinnear as Dave is absolutely fabulous,

514
00:28:03,773 --> 00:28:07,173
Speaker 9: And there's something a little bit special about knowing that

515
00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,573
Speaker 9: this guy really does exist and that people can stand

516
00:28:10,693 --> 00:28:13,053
Speaker 9: up and you know that it is based loosely on

517
00:28:13,173 --> 00:28:15,253
Speaker 9: a true story that you know people can make an

518
00:28:15,253 --> 00:28:18,813
Speaker 9: impact and stand up for look after their community. So yeah,

519
00:28:18,973 --> 00:28:22,293
Speaker 9: it's a little bit it's a bit nicer fair than

520
00:28:22,373 --> 00:28:23,173
Speaker 9: our first film.

521
00:28:23,293 --> 00:28:25,813
Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with that. Do you enjoy weird joy arrange?

522
00:28:25,893 --> 00:28:28,813
Speaker 3: This is what we love, Francisca. I try, That's why

523
00:28:28,853 --> 00:28:31,053
Speaker 3: trying to bring you Jack very good. Hey, dere, I

524
00:28:31,173 --> 00:28:33,213
Speaker 3: ask you, you've got a busy day today.

525
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,573
Speaker 8: Induction huh oh.

526
00:28:37,213 --> 00:28:38,053
Speaker 9: Stop it hang on.

527
00:28:38,093 --> 00:28:40,093
Speaker 3: When I say induction, people are going to thinking on

528
00:28:40,173 --> 00:28:42,693
Speaker 3: what's she being induced for? No, no, no, no, no

529
00:28:42,853 --> 00:28:45,373
Speaker 3: no no no no, you're getting confused. Do you mind

530
00:28:45,453 --> 00:28:46,653
Speaker 3: telling us what you're heading off?

531
00:28:46,733 --> 00:28:50,133
Speaker 9: To do today. Well, I love to do pottery. Jack,

532
00:28:50,613 --> 00:28:51,813
Speaker 9: thank you for bringing this up.

533
00:28:52,413 --> 00:28:53,413
Speaker 2: Good my little hobbit.

534
00:28:53,853 --> 00:28:54,133
Speaker 12: Don't know.

535
00:28:54,773 --> 00:28:56,973
Speaker 9: About a year ago, I decided I needed to do something,

536
00:28:57,053 --> 00:28:59,133
Speaker 9: create it, and I wanted to create things with my hands.

537
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:01,693
Speaker 9: So I go to the Clay Center. I've been doing

538
00:29:01,693 --> 00:29:03,813
Speaker 9: classes at the Clay Center and I absolutely love it,

539
00:29:03,973 --> 00:29:05,653
Speaker 9: and I've just come off the waiting list to become

540
00:29:05,693 --> 00:29:08,093
Speaker 9: a member, and I'm I'm gonna be able to be

541
00:29:08,213 --> 00:29:10,093
Speaker 9: able to go in there whenever I want and make

542
00:29:10,133 --> 00:29:12,173
Speaker 9: a huge mess with clay, which is essentially what I do.

543
00:29:12,453 --> 00:29:14,093
Speaker 3: Ah fun, that'd be great.

544
00:29:14,893 --> 00:29:15,293
Speaker 11: Enjoy it.

545
00:29:15,933 --> 00:29:18,293
Speaker 3: We'll be thinking of you, looking forward to your next

546
00:29:18,493 --> 00:29:20,253
Speaker 3: creations and we'll catch again next week.

547
00:29:21,013 --> 00:29:21,613
Speaker 9: Thanks Jack.

548
00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:24,533
Speaker 3: That is Francisca Rudkin, our film reviewers. So those films

549
00:29:24,573 --> 00:29:28,133
Speaker 3: once again, it was just an accident. Open the New

550
00:29:28,173 --> 00:29:31,893
Speaker 3: Zealand International Film Festival. That is showing in cinemas. Bank

551
00:29:31,973 --> 00:29:36,213
Speaker 3: of Dave two, The Lone Ranger is on Netflix. Is

552
00:29:36,253 --> 00:29:39,933
Speaker 3: it Dave Fishick or Dave Fishwick. It's fish Wik, I

553
00:29:39,973 --> 00:29:41,773
Speaker 3: think ay, but you know it's one of those. It's

554
00:29:41,813 --> 00:29:44,413
Speaker 3: like the name Warwick. You know how some people look

555
00:29:44,413 --> 00:29:48,373
Speaker 3: at the name Warwick and they go Warwick Dave.

556
00:29:48,773 --> 00:29:49,933
Speaker 1: So it's f I s h.

557
00:29:50,133 --> 00:29:51,973
Speaker 3: I think we've got that, but that's fish and then

558
00:29:52,173 --> 00:29:56,413
Speaker 3: wic kick fish Wik Dave Fishwick as opposed to Phish. Yeah,

559
00:29:56,413 --> 00:29:58,893
Speaker 3: I'm sticking with Fishwick. Bank of Dave two is on

560
00:29:59,013 --> 00:30:02,293
Speaker 3: Netflix right now at sixteen to ten Saturday.

561
00:30:01,973 --> 00:30:05,373
Speaker 1: Morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through the

562
00:30:05,453 --> 00:30:06,693
Speaker 1: weekend talks.

563
00:30:06,693 --> 00:30:10,093
Speaker 3: It'd be by now it's fourteen to ten on news Talks.

564
00:30:10,093 --> 00:30:12,013
Speaker 3: He'd be Nicki wis as our cook and she's here

565
00:30:12,053 --> 00:30:12,813
Speaker 3: with us this morning.

566
00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:16,213
Speaker 13: Killed Yeah, whatever, Jacky.

567
00:30:16,413 --> 00:30:18,493
Speaker 3: So you know, do you know that feeling you we're

568
00:30:18,533 --> 00:30:21,173
Speaker 3: talking pies talk me apple pies specifically. I was just

569
00:30:21,213 --> 00:30:22,653
Speaker 3: saying at the start of the show this morning, I

570
00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:25,413
Speaker 3: had one of the you know, those like joyous moments

571
00:30:25,493 --> 00:30:28,173
Speaker 3: in life, and they are all too fleeting. When you

572
00:30:28,293 --> 00:30:31,733
Speaker 3: get home on a cold night, it's dark outside, you've

573
00:30:31,773 --> 00:30:34,373
Speaker 3: had a long day, and then you open the door,

574
00:30:34,453 --> 00:30:36,173
Speaker 3: and you know, sometimes when you open the door, you

575
00:30:36,253 --> 00:30:38,573
Speaker 3: sort of feel the pressure change a little bit, and

576
00:30:38,653 --> 00:30:40,413
Speaker 3: so you get you get hit with a burst of

577
00:30:40,533 --> 00:30:43,413
Speaker 3: air from inside, and of course inside it was nice

578
00:30:43,453 --> 00:30:45,853
Speaker 3: and hot inside our house. I'd park my bike under

579
00:30:45,853 --> 00:30:48,093
Speaker 3: the house I've been freezing cold. My knuckles were white.

580
00:30:48,653 --> 00:30:50,893
Speaker 3: And as I as I pushed open the front door,

581
00:30:51,213 --> 00:30:53,333
Speaker 3: I was hit with that sort of change in pressure,

582
00:30:53,733 --> 00:30:57,333
Speaker 3: and I could smell the rhubarb and apple tart or

583
00:30:57,493 --> 00:30:59,733
Speaker 3: rubarb and apple crumble that my wife had in the oven,

584
00:30:59,813 --> 00:31:02,213
Speaker 3: and I was just like, you know, heaven is a

585
00:31:02,253 --> 00:31:08,293
Speaker 3: place on earth, you know, and she in your house. Yeah, yeah,

586
00:31:08,653 --> 00:31:10,933
Speaker 3: And she'd be the first to admit she's not someone

587
00:31:10,933 --> 00:31:13,253
Speaker 3: who leans into a lot of cooking, is there a little,

588
00:31:13,693 --> 00:31:15,413
Speaker 3: but she was just in the mood yesterday she'd gone

589
00:31:15,453 --> 00:31:19,293
Speaker 3: and got some rhubarb, oh my goodness, and a rhubarb

590
00:31:19,293 --> 00:31:20,053
Speaker 3: and apple crumble.

591
00:31:20,213 --> 00:31:22,173
Speaker 13: Just you know, it's just the best.

592
00:31:22,253 --> 00:31:24,253
Speaker 14: And at this time of the year, we don't have

593
00:31:24,853 --> 00:31:27,613
Speaker 14: loads of fruit to choose from, do we. But and

594
00:31:27,733 --> 00:31:30,013
Speaker 14: that's when I think apples come into their own. You know,

595
00:31:30,533 --> 00:31:32,413
Speaker 14: there's something like a fresh apple when they when they

596
00:31:32,453 --> 00:31:35,693
Speaker 14: are just freshly picked, but they store so well. And

597
00:31:36,013 --> 00:31:38,413
Speaker 14: and same with rhubarb, and so you think about those

598
00:31:38,493 --> 00:31:40,213
Speaker 14: two that just kind of get us through winters.

599
00:31:40,493 --> 00:31:40,973
Speaker 13: Glorious.

600
00:31:41,093 --> 00:31:41,293
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:45,053
Speaker 3: So, anyway, the point was that it's it's the perfect

602
00:31:45,093 --> 00:31:47,253
Speaker 3: time of year to give the person in your life

603
00:31:47,333 --> 00:31:51,213
Speaker 3: that similar wonderful feeling, and I reckon that apple apple

604
00:31:51,253 --> 00:31:52,533
Speaker 3: pies could be the way to do it.

605
00:31:53,653 --> 00:31:54,733
Speaker 13: It could be the way to do it.

606
00:31:54,853 --> 00:31:57,693
Speaker 14: I mean, this week, you know, we've seen our Supreme

607
00:31:58,693 --> 00:32:02,853
Speaker 14: Pie of the New Zealand Supreme Pie Award was announced

608
00:32:03,333 --> 00:32:05,333
Speaker 14: and it wasn't an apple pie. But I thought our

609
00:32:05,453 --> 00:32:08,813
Speaker 14: listeners could just go to the Rosedale Bakery and get

610
00:32:08,853 --> 00:32:11,813
Speaker 14: what did win, which was this potato topped pie.

611
00:32:12,053 --> 00:32:14,973
Speaker 3: It looks so good. It looks so good with the

612
00:32:15,053 --> 00:32:16,493
Speaker 3: kind of grattan in the middle.

613
00:32:16,853 --> 00:32:19,333
Speaker 14: It has a sort of a punched out dome of

614
00:32:19,453 --> 00:32:23,413
Speaker 14: gritan in the middle of the whipped potato. There's still

615
00:32:23,453 --> 00:32:27,093
Speaker 14: a meat filling under there. Do not fear Hints of rosemary,

616
00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:31,133
Speaker 14: hints of a roast dinner. Absolutely amazing. I liked the

617
00:32:31,173 --> 00:32:33,893
Speaker 14: little stamp because when I first saw it come out,

618
00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:36,293
Speaker 14: I thought, oh, you know that sort of very posh

619
00:32:37,093 --> 00:32:38,893
Speaker 14: dish that you can have a piece of bone with

620
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:41,853
Speaker 14: bone marrow in it. Sometimes, you know, they'll put that

621
00:32:41,933 --> 00:32:44,293
Speaker 14: in the middle of a pie or a lamb shank

622
00:32:44,373 --> 00:32:45,453
Speaker 14: pie that's got the big.

623
00:32:45,413 --> 00:32:47,853
Speaker 13: Bone sticking out. It kind of reminded me of that.

624
00:32:48,293 --> 00:32:50,973
Speaker 13: But the taste of the grattan as well as the

625
00:32:51,013 --> 00:32:54,093
Speaker 13: whipped potato. It was just phenomenal. It was so great.

626
00:32:54,853 --> 00:32:57,253
Speaker 14: Far too fatty at home to do, I've got to say.

627
00:32:57,373 --> 00:33:01,133
Speaker 14: So I have got quite possibly the simplest part. And

628
00:33:01,253 --> 00:33:05,813
Speaker 14: this is a recipe from my mum, bless her, and

629
00:33:06,933 --> 00:33:09,213
Speaker 14: there's just you know, there's just nothing in it other

630
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:12,933
Speaker 14: than fruit and pastry and I just love that.

631
00:33:13,533 --> 00:33:16,013
Speaker 13: So look, here you go. It is just an apple pie.

632
00:33:16,053 --> 00:33:18,933
Speaker 14: And I've made six individual ones of these, and the

633
00:33:19,013 --> 00:33:22,213
Speaker 14: big sort of Texan muffin tins, so that's slightly bigger

634
00:33:22,213 --> 00:33:22,853
Speaker 14: than a muffinton.

635
00:33:22,893 --> 00:33:23,693
Speaker 13: They're usually quite big.

636
00:33:23,733 --> 00:33:24,253
Speaker 3: So you can make a.

637
00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:25,373
Speaker 13: Little pie in it, which is great.

638
00:33:25,693 --> 00:33:28,413
Speaker 14: Ovens on two hundred degrees, which is quite high, but

639
00:33:28,493 --> 00:33:31,853
Speaker 14: that's because we're using a short crust pastry. Throw in

640
00:33:31,933 --> 00:33:34,453
Speaker 14: an oven tras we want. Of course, always cook pies

641
00:33:34,493 --> 00:33:37,213
Speaker 14: on another tray that is nice and hot, because that

642
00:33:37,293 --> 00:33:41,133
Speaker 14: gives you that lovely cooked bottom on it, which is great.

643
00:33:41,813 --> 00:33:43,693
Speaker 14: And here's what we do with the apples. I just

644
00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:47,653
Speaker 14: love this recipe. Kilogram of apples, Granny Smith. You just

645
00:33:47,773 --> 00:33:50,933
Speaker 14: can't go past them. Peel those, slice them up, don't

646
00:33:50,973 --> 00:33:53,333
Speaker 14: put the caws in, and then also place a one

647
00:33:53,413 --> 00:33:55,653
Speaker 14: cup of water into a saucepan with the lid on

648
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Speaker 14: and gently cook them for about fifteen minutes, Jack, and

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00:33:59,253 --> 00:34:01,733
Speaker 14: they'll retain these shape, they won't tune up into a

650
00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:05,213
Speaker 14: big fluffy pulp. That's the benefit of cooking with Granny Smiths.

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00:34:05,933 --> 00:34:09,053
Speaker 14: And then you drain those in a colander and reserve

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Speaker 14: the juice, which you then can boil separately for a

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Speaker 14: little apple syrup if you'd like.

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Speaker 3: And I really love that.

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Speaker 14: My mother's recipe specifically says, please note apples do not

656
00:34:20,253 --> 00:34:22,213
Speaker 14: need added sugar, as they are sweet enough.

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00:34:23,733 --> 00:34:26,093
Speaker 13: And I love that because I think the temptation would better.

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00:34:26,493 --> 00:34:28,133
Speaker 13: I what about the sugar in the air. I don't

659
00:34:28,173 --> 00:34:30,773
Speaker 13: need it, You absolutely don't, you know, So I love that.

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Speaker 14: Cool the apples completely, because you really don't want to

661
00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:36,373
Speaker 14: be putting warm filling into a pastry.

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00:34:36,733 --> 00:34:38,773
Speaker 13: Roll your pastry out a little.

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Speaker 14: Bit thinner than it comes if you're buying those sheets

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Speaker 14: of sweet pastry, if you're buying a block or your choice,

665
00:34:43,933 --> 00:34:47,133
Speaker 14: and fill those that the sweet short pastry is very

666
00:34:47,213 --> 00:34:49,213
Speaker 14: short and it doesn't want to be heated up, So

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00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:51,893
Speaker 14: move kind of quickly and winters a great time for

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00:34:51,973 --> 00:34:53,573
Speaker 14: doing this because your bench is cold, your.

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Speaker 13: Hands are cold.

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00:34:54,813 --> 00:34:58,533
Speaker 14: You want to line those big muffin hole muffinton holes.

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00:34:59,093 --> 00:35:01,013
Speaker 14: Patch up any tears or holes that you know that

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Speaker 14: have happened.

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00:35:01,933 --> 00:35:02,373
Speaker 13: That's okay.

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00:35:02,653 --> 00:35:05,533
Speaker 14: Fill the three quarters with the cold apple and then

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00:35:05,653 --> 00:35:09,213
Speaker 14: cover with a pastry lid, pinching the sides, use a

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00:35:09,293 --> 00:35:11,573
Speaker 14: really sharp knife to make a nice little cross on

677
00:35:11,613 --> 00:35:13,693
Speaker 14: the top so that lets the steam out, and then

678
00:35:13,733 --> 00:35:16,493
Speaker 14: you'll get a lovely sort of buttery, crispy top. If

679
00:35:16,533 --> 00:35:19,453
Speaker 14: you like it, it'll be biscuity rather than soggy. Bake

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00:35:19,533 --> 00:35:21,453
Speaker 14: them on the hot tray for about twenty five minutes,

681
00:35:22,213 --> 00:35:23,893
Speaker 14: maybe near the bottom of the oven, so you make

682
00:35:23,933 --> 00:35:25,693
Speaker 14: sure that that bottom really does cook.

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00:35:25,933 --> 00:35:28,253
Speaker 13: It should be a really lovely golden color.

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Speaker 14: Having judged those awards this year, I can say that

685
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:35,573
Speaker 14: people tend to even bakers, tend to undercook pastry. So

686
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Speaker 14: wait till it really does take on that golden color

687
00:35:38,453 --> 00:35:40,053
Speaker 14: because it needs it needs good cooking.

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Speaker 13: And then take them out of that.

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Speaker 14: You can dust them with ice and sugar if you like,

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Speaker 14: and then you get the chance to add anything sweet

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Speaker 14: with them.

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00:35:46,813 --> 00:35:50,413
Speaker 13: So a warm apple pie with ice cream. Just a vanilla,

693
00:35:50,653 --> 00:35:54,493
Speaker 13: just a vanilla, don't go craapy clouds of whooped cream or.

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00:35:56,013 --> 00:35:57,533
Speaker 3: Just a little bit of crunch on the side deck.

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00:35:57,573 --> 00:35:59,533
Speaker 13: We'll grunt you that that's more like a toffee apple

696
00:35:59,573 --> 00:36:00,213
Speaker 13: sort of situation.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:04,013
Speaker 14: Maybe a sprinkle of cinnamon on top of those, and

699
00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:05,853
Speaker 14: maybe that apple syrup as well.

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Speaker 13: Perfect, you're going to love them. That's my pie of

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Speaker 13: the year.

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Speaker 3: Yum. It sounds so good. Hey do you think have

703
00:36:13,573 --> 00:36:16,013
Speaker 3: you tried that? The the old you know, the ultimate

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Speaker 3: Ladi Da? What's the official title?

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Speaker 8: Best?

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Speaker 3: And you know I certainly did. I was part of

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Speaker 3: the judging pond. There was something with the judges and stuff.

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Speaker 13: No, I absolutely tried it.

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Speaker 3: So obviously you you recommend it. But is it gonna

710
00:36:31,613 --> 00:36:33,053
Speaker 3: be one of these situations where we're not going to

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00:36:33,093 --> 00:36:34,573
Speaker 3: be able to get the pie for six months now

712
00:36:34,853 --> 00:36:36,613
Speaker 3: because they're going to be sold out every single day.

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Speaker 14: Well it's really funny because you know, any pie that

714
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Speaker 14: had any level of detail amongst us judges where we

715
00:36:42,053 --> 00:36:43,973
Speaker 14: were like, all these people are really going to regret

716
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Speaker 14: this if they're having to make me look people that

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00:36:48,373 --> 00:36:50,653
Speaker 14: the bakers that are producing these pies are producing a

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00:36:50,733 --> 00:36:52,973
Speaker 14: lot of them, because pies in fact are quite hard

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Speaker 14: to make money out of so you've got to make

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Speaker 14: a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: So no, I think it's still worth it.

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Speaker 14: I mean, maybe given a week or two and then

723
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Speaker 14: hit up to the Rosedale Bakery and Cafe and I

724
00:37:01,533 --> 00:37:03,293
Speaker 14: think you'll be all right and it's worth the trip.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it really is.

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00:37:05,013 --> 00:37:06,853
Speaker 3: It's just you know, I just saw that photo of

727
00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:09,613
Speaker 3: the cross section, you know, the play, and I was like,

728
00:37:09,733 --> 00:37:12,733
Speaker 3: oh my god, it was it was like, what's going on.

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00:37:12,813 --> 00:37:14,773
Speaker 13: There's also a little bit of a bechamelle sort of

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Speaker 13: well scullo.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: So good, all right, Hey, thank you very much. We

733
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Speaker 3: will make sure that amazing sounding recipe for your individual

734
00:37:24,653 --> 00:37:26,933
Speaker 3: apple pies is up on the news talks heb website.

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Speaker 3: Everything from the show goes up there. You know, the deal,

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Speaker 3: News Talks, heb dot co dot z Forward slash Jack.

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Speaker 1: Inside Scoop on all you need to know Saturday Morning

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Speaker 1: with Jack Team News Talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be.

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Speaker 3: Five on News Talks, he' be. It is that time

741
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Speaker 3: of the year when things can get a little bit

742
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Speaker 3: lean in the garden, not just in terms of produce,

743
00:37:48,653 --> 00:37:52,333
Speaker 3: although my citrus is absolutely crushing it at the moment,

744
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Speaker 3: but in terms of nutrient deficiencies. Right, things can get

745
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Speaker 3: a little bit tough. So before before eleven o'clock, a

746
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Speaker 3: man in the garden is going to give us his

747
00:38:00,133 --> 00:38:02,493
Speaker 3: top tips on making sure that the plants in your

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Speaker 3: garden are getting the nutrients they need at this time

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Speaker 3: of year. Plus, right after the ten o'clock News, cannot

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Speaker 3: wait for this our feature interview this morning. Kee We

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Speaker 3: Hollywood legend Cliff Curtis. He is one of the stars

752
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Speaker 3: of the new Chief of War series that is streaming

753
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Speaker 3: on Apple TV plus. This has been headed up by

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Speaker 3: Jason Moremore. It kind of tells a story of the

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00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:31,013
Speaker 3: reunification of Hawaii, or the bloody reunification of Hawaii. It's

756
00:38:31,093 --> 00:38:36,373
Speaker 3: an historical drama. It's violent, it's moving, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of it was filmed in New Zealand. They actsally filmed

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Speaker 3: PEPs of it in the Bay of Island, so when

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Speaker 3: you're watching it, it's one of those kind of crazy

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Speaker 3: things we like.

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Speaker 7: Hang on.

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Speaker 3: This all seems very familiar. Cliff Curtis is going to

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Speaker 3: be with us right after the teanclock News Saturday morning.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jack Tayane. It's a pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 3: This is News Talks.

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Speaker 4: He'd be.

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Speaker 2: Cracking. Way to start your Saturday. Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 2: Tame News Talks, The.

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Speaker 3: Yod No, good morning, Welcome to News Talks at be

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Speaker 3: with Jack Tame. From Rotru to the World. Cliff Curtis

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Speaker 3: is a homegrown Hollywood legend known for his skill of metamorphosis,

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Speaker 3: calfing out credits, and a mixture of major franchises and

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Speaker 3: more personal productions. His most recent projects feels like a

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Speaker 3: bit of a blend of both. Let's have a listen

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Speaker 3: to Apple TV Plus's new series Chief of War.

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Speaker 2: Just Island. This is your home. This land will hold you.

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Speaker 9: How long after I am gone?

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Speaker 3: Tell me of the outside world.

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Speaker 2: This strange.

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Speaker 8: The pale skin honors no gods of land.

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Speaker 2: It will be coming soon.

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Speaker 3: That is Chief of War. Cliff Curtis is starring in

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Speaker 3: the series, produced and also starring, produced by, and also

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Speaker 3: starring Jason Mamore. It tells the tale the turn of

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Speaker 3: the eighteenth century when the four kingdoms of Hawaii were

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Speaker 3: at war and Cliff Curtis is with us. Got a

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Speaker 3: good morning, Jack, Hey, congratulations and thank you for your

788
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Speaker 3: Thank you for your time with this. I mean, this

789
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Speaker 3: is an amazing story. And it's remarkable really because it's

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Speaker 3: a Polynesian story told from an indigenous perspective for a

791
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Speaker 3: global audience. So given your career, give in all the

792
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Speaker 3: roles you've had over the years, just how significant is that?

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Speaker 8: It's very significant.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a you know, as you know,

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Speaker 4: you've probably followed as a as a storyteller in the

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Speaker 4: screen industry for the last three.

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Speaker 8: Decades at least.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've managed to tell a variation of stories

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Speaker 4: from our small corner of the world. But you know,

800
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Speaker 4: this series when when led by the likes of Jason

801
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Speaker 4: more Moore and his co creator Thomas Park, they can

802
00:41:39,813 --> 00:41:43,933
Speaker 4: bring scale to the narrative, like they can really recreate

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Speaker 4: the scale and the majesty and the regal nature of

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Speaker 4: our ancestry.

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Speaker 8: And they've done an amazing job.

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Speaker 4: I'm very, very proud and humbled to be a part

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00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:56,173
Speaker 4: of it, to be honest, that's that's very big for us.

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Speaker 8: It's a big deal for us.

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Speaker 3: It is a big deal, and it's such a powerful story.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's a great example of how sharing,

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Speaker 3: you know, Polynesian stories isn't just the right thing to do,

812
00:42:08,853 --> 00:42:11,693
Speaker 3: Like it's seriously entertaining as well, right, and and and

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Speaker 3: it feels like you've really struck that balance.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, Well, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 15: I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't think as a mildly storyteller. I do it

817
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Speaker 4: because it's the right thing to do. As I do

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Speaker 4: because I'm passionate about it, and I want to do it.

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Speaker 8: And if I'm.

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Speaker 4: Compelled to tell these stories because for my my self

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Speaker 4: insured reasons. But culturally we live in the context of

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Speaker 4: ancestors and descendants. You know, my own self es cents

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Speaker 4: are relatively minor compared to being of service to.

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Speaker 8: Our EWI to our people.

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Speaker 4: Now, we want we want stories like this that can

826
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Speaker 4: inspire our future generations, not because we should, but because

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Speaker 4: it's something that just as in our as in our

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Speaker 4: life blood as human beings, to want to do so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are elements of the story that are so

830
00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:08,253
Speaker 3: familiar for an audience. But but for those of our

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Speaker 3: audience who haven't you seen Chief of War? Can you

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00:43:10,373 --> 00:43:12,733
Speaker 3: can you give us a little bit of background without

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Speaker 3: without giving too much away? Can you can you kind

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Speaker 3: of set the context for us a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think it's a classical story.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's true It's based on history, and it's

837
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Speaker 4: a story that I think we can recognize from many

838
00:43:27,413 --> 00:43:31,853
Speaker 4: great stories from any culture, which makes it human. You know,

839
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Speaker 4: there's a there's a there's a Chief of war played

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Speaker 4: by Jason Monmore.

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00:43:40,373 --> 00:43:43,173
Speaker 8: His name is cut Yana, and and they learn of

842
00:43:43,333 --> 00:43:45,413
Speaker 8: this this impending doom.

843
00:43:45,493 --> 00:43:49,773
Speaker 4: There's this prophecy that a great wave of of of

844
00:43:50,213 --> 00:43:52,973
Speaker 4: the outside world is coming towards Hawaii. And he has

845
00:43:53,053 --> 00:43:54,973
Speaker 4: to leave the islands and go out to see what's

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00:43:54,973 --> 00:43:58,333
Speaker 4: happening in the world. And he returns with technology and stories,

847
00:43:58,813 --> 00:44:01,613
Speaker 4: and and he he wants to change the way that

848
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Speaker 4: Hawaii is. And he campaigns within the kings of each

849
00:44:05,813 --> 00:44:10,093
Speaker 4: island to unify the islands. And this gives rise to

850
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Speaker 4: the Kingdom of Kamehameha. But they've got to go through

851
00:44:14,213 --> 00:44:19,333
Speaker 4: a brutal series of battles and wars, and Hawaii is

852
00:44:19,333 --> 00:44:22,733
Speaker 4: divided amongst eight islands, and on these islands, on each

853
00:44:22,813 --> 00:44:26,213
Speaker 4: corner of each island are different kingdoms. It's it's not

854
00:44:26,453 --> 00:44:29,813
Speaker 4: as little known how vast and how complex and how

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00:44:30,533 --> 00:44:36,413
Speaker 4: rich and powerful these nations were. Timoider plays King Kahikili,

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Speaker 4: which is the island of Maui. I play a character

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00:44:40,053 --> 00:44:43,893
Speaker 4: called King Gaowa from the island of Hawaii, and my

858
00:44:44,053 --> 00:44:50,093
Speaker 4: cousin is King Kamehameha, and we are all battling to

859
00:44:51,453 --> 00:44:56,173
Speaker 4: decide which king should lead Hawaii and prepare for the

860
00:44:56,293 --> 00:45:00,493
Speaker 4: incoming world that is going to change the life in

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Speaker 4: Hawaii forever.

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00:45:02,413 --> 00:45:06,813
Speaker 3: The relationship between Kanakamauli, so the indigenous people of Hawaii

863
00:45:07,133 --> 00:45:12,653
Speaker 3: and Maudi and other Polynesian people's obviously runs incredibly deep.

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Speaker 3: But from your perspective, what did you learn about kind

865
00:45:15,053 --> 00:45:17,173
Speaker 3: of a Mali during this production?

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00:45:19,213 --> 00:45:20,973
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's just the scale.

867
00:45:21,053 --> 00:45:23,653
Speaker 4: I mean, we you know, we've often seen on screen

868
00:45:23,773 --> 00:45:27,893
Speaker 4: ourselves represented, but the scale of the storytelling is very intimate,

869
00:45:27,973 --> 00:45:30,813
Speaker 4: and we just don't really realize there were a million

870
00:45:30,853 --> 00:45:34,693
Speaker 4: Hawaiians living in Hawaii pre contact, Yeah, you know, and

871
00:45:34,813 --> 00:45:36,693
Speaker 4: that when they went to war, when they went into battle,

872
00:45:37,213 --> 00:45:39,333
Speaker 4: there wasn't like a few hundred or a few thousands.

873
00:45:39,533 --> 00:45:42,253
Speaker 4: There was one hundred thousand strong in each army, and

874
00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:43,933
Speaker 4: there might be two or three armies that.

875
00:45:43,973 --> 00:45:44,933
Speaker 8: Battle all at once.

876
00:45:46,093 --> 00:45:49,293
Speaker 4: That when they were taken armada of their ships from

877
00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,613
Speaker 4: one island to the next, it was in the thousands.

878
00:45:52,453 --> 00:45:55,493
Speaker 4: So I think that's the thing that really is striking

879
00:45:57,053 --> 00:46:01,053
Speaker 4: and that that hasn't been understood, and it's really really

880
00:46:01,173 --> 00:46:04,493
Speaker 4: inspiring to sort of see the might of these nations

881
00:46:05,053 --> 00:46:09,013
Speaker 4: and the vulnerability of them to to to history and

882
00:46:09,133 --> 00:46:11,693
Speaker 4: that and that empires come and they go, they rise,

883
00:46:11,773 --> 00:46:15,813
Speaker 4: and they fall, but we're still here and uh and

884
00:46:15,973 --> 00:46:20,493
Speaker 4: there's a beautiful connection between Maudi and and Kanaka Mauli

885
00:46:20,533 --> 00:46:24,693
Speaker 4: of Hawaii, Tahiti, Tongas are with Upa Nui. And then

886
00:46:24,733 --> 00:46:26,973
Speaker 4: we have a shared language, we have a shared genealogy,

887
00:46:27,053 --> 00:46:30,333
Speaker 4: we have a shared experience. That our continent is not

888
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:34,853
Speaker 4: a continent of a mass of land like the Americas

889
00:46:35,093 --> 00:46:38,813
Speaker 4: or or or Europe per Se or Asia. Ours is

890
00:46:38,813 --> 00:46:41,693
Speaker 4: a continent of ocean to Wana Nui aaquiwa, and it

891
00:46:41,813 --> 00:46:44,053
Speaker 4: is not the seed that divides us. It is a

892
00:46:44,173 --> 00:46:47,813
Speaker 4: seed sea, the ocean that that connects us and unifies

893
00:46:47,893 --> 00:46:51,093
Speaker 4: us as Polynesia one of the main connects us, and

894
00:46:51,173 --> 00:46:53,613
Speaker 4: it also connects us to both sides of the Pacific.

895
00:46:53,973 --> 00:46:57,373
Speaker 4: It connects us through Taiwan and all of Asia, Southeast

896
00:46:57,373 --> 00:47:00,413
Speaker 4: Asia into China. It connects us up to Mongolia and

897
00:47:00,533 --> 00:47:03,413
Speaker 4: round from the Mongolia across the Strait and down through

898
00:47:03,413 --> 00:47:07,413
Speaker 4: the Americas, they're Native Americans of what we now called Canada,

899
00:47:07,773 --> 00:47:08,413
Speaker 4: the Cree nation.

900
00:47:08,573 --> 00:47:09,653
Speaker 8: They're coming tomorrow.

901
00:47:10,133 --> 00:47:12,533
Speaker 4: We've got all of these nations of Native America that

902
00:47:12,613 --> 00:47:14,493
Speaker 4: go all the way down to South America and it

903
00:47:14,573 --> 00:47:17,253
Speaker 4: crosses back over into a upper nor Easter Island. So

904
00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:21,213
Speaker 4: at the catchment of our indigenous cultures are vast. It

905
00:47:21,333 --> 00:47:28,173
Speaker 4: is a vast and un unheralded population of indigenous culture.

906
00:47:28,253 --> 00:47:33,013
Speaker 4: We're made to think through the historical western lens that

907
00:47:33,133 --> 00:47:36,453
Speaker 4: we're little pockets of these cute little natives that like

908
00:47:36,533 --> 00:47:40,373
Speaker 4: to sing songs to one another, but which we did

909
00:47:40,493 --> 00:47:42,813
Speaker 4: do that too. We can also be cute and very

910
00:47:42,893 --> 00:47:46,453
Speaker 4: lovely and warm, but that we were a vast population

911
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,093
Speaker 4: and still are. It's just that it's been forgotten. And

912
00:47:49,213 --> 00:47:53,373
Speaker 4: through the series we can revigorate this. Because the character

913
00:47:53,453 --> 00:47:56,413
Speaker 4: that Jason goes out to see the world, he doesn't

914
00:47:56,453 --> 00:47:58,693
Speaker 4: go to Europe. He goes to Asia. He sees the

915
00:47:58,893 --> 00:48:02,173
Speaker 4: might of southern Southeast Asian, all of China, and he

916
00:48:02,253 --> 00:48:05,053
Speaker 4: comes about with gunpowder and all the technologies of Asia

917
00:48:05,613 --> 00:48:08,093
Speaker 4: to prepare for the for the what will be the

918
00:48:08,213 --> 00:48:13,813
Speaker 4: onslaught of the Western migration migrants. As we as we

919
00:48:13,973 --> 00:48:16,173
Speaker 4: as we as we don't want to call ourselves there,

920
00:48:16,413 --> 00:48:21,013
Speaker 4: but the incoming migrants from this foreign place, you know,

921
00:48:21,253 --> 00:48:22,933
Speaker 4: and wanting to colonize.

922
00:48:24,293 --> 00:48:27,533
Speaker 3: It's amazing in the production, the prominence with which the

923
00:48:27,613 --> 00:48:31,693
Speaker 3: Hawaiian language is given, I mean, is remarkable seeing all

924
00:48:31,773 --> 00:48:34,453
Speaker 3: of these actors we know and love speaking in the

925
00:48:34,533 --> 00:48:38,533
Speaker 3: Hawaiian language. How did you and the cast find that experience?

926
00:48:39,853 --> 00:48:40,613
Speaker 8: I was beautiful?

927
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:43,773
Speaker 4: What a privilege, what a We have the basis of

928
00:48:43,853 --> 00:48:54,693
Speaker 4: our own real maudi, so you know, vaka aloha, you know, uh,

929
00:48:55,693 --> 00:48:59,453
Speaker 4: you know, we have all of these connections far.

930
00:49:00,373 --> 00:49:02,893
Speaker 8: So we had the basis of our own language.

931
00:49:03,013 --> 00:49:07,013
Speaker 4: Was beautiful to hear it resonate in the dialect which

932
00:49:07,093 --> 00:49:09,933
Speaker 4: is Hawaii, which is our connected language. And then we

933
00:49:10,013 --> 00:49:12,533
Speaker 4: had some mourns and our cast torments and the cast

934
00:49:12,853 --> 00:49:16,853
Speaker 4: Tahitians and the cast, and we all connected through the

935
00:49:16,973 --> 00:49:21,813
Speaker 4: vision of one or more and they consciously wanted to

936
00:49:21,893 --> 00:49:25,213
Speaker 4: reunite Polynesia to show that we are connected and that

937
00:49:25,293 --> 00:49:28,053
Speaker 4: we are not isolated, and that we should not divide

938
00:49:28,093 --> 00:49:32,293
Speaker 4: ourselves by our dialects and by our islands, but connect

939
00:49:32,333 --> 00:49:36,653
Speaker 4: ourselves to celebrate our connection and our heritage together.

940
00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:39,053
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful, beautiful happening.

941
00:49:39,533 --> 00:49:41,893
Speaker 3: It wasn't like in a practical sense, is it. I

942
00:49:41,933 --> 00:49:45,373
Speaker 3: mean obviously you know you yeah, yeah, no doubt.

943
00:49:46,333 --> 00:49:50,293
Speaker 4: Huge chalon And you know it's it's actually a yeah,

944
00:49:50,293 --> 00:49:53,973
Speaker 4: it's very very typical to to earn the Hawaiian.

945
00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:57,253
Speaker 8: But I was so excited by it.

946
00:49:57,813 --> 00:50:01,573
Speaker 4: I asked, I asked on the condition if I accepted

947
00:50:01,613 --> 00:50:06,493
Speaker 4: the role, that in order to honor this ancestor, that

948
00:50:06,613 --> 00:50:08,853
Speaker 4: I would not speak a word of English, that I

949
00:50:08,853 --> 00:50:10,053
Speaker 4: would only speak Hawaiian.

950
00:50:10,293 --> 00:50:10,533
Speaker 2: Wow.

951
00:50:10,933 --> 00:50:13,933
Speaker 4: And that was a great privilege to t in a

952
00:50:14,013 --> 00:50:18,373
Speaker 4: commitment for myself to to you know, to try my

953
00:50:18,533 --> 00:50:20,693
Speaker 4: best to honor this this ancestral line.

954
00:50:21,693 --> 00:50:25,453
Speaker 3: Have you found yourself through the production experience starting to

955
00:50:25,573 --> 00:50:27,853
Speaker 3: like reach for words in real maudi and going to

956
00:50:27,933 --> 00:50:29,773
Speaker 3: the Hawaiian word and stee Obviously there are a lot

957
00:50:29,773 --> 00:50:31,213
Speaker 3: of similarities a lot of the time that do you

958
00:50:31,293 --> 00:50:33,173
Speaker 3: find yourself sometimes reaching for the wrong one?

959
00:50:34,253 --> 00:50:35,053
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, definitely.

960
00:50:35,133 --> 00:50:38,253
Speaker 4: But the but but but the greater danger was actually

961
00:50:39,053 --> 00:50:42,453
Speaker 4: speaking Hawaiian with a Maldi accent, which is quite quite difficult.

962
00:50:42,493 --> 00:50:46,933
Speaker 4: It's like speaking it's like speaking English with an American accent.

963
00:50:47,053 --> 00:50:50,133
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's quite abrupt, it's quite notice was

964
00:50:50,173 --> 00:50:53,413
Speaker 4: the biggest challenge was to try and but there was

965
00:50:54,093 --> 00:50:57,533
Speaker 4: there's still exist a dialect in Hawaii where instead of

966
00:50:57,613 --> 00:51:00,293
Speaker 4: that where they still have the tea's and the rs

967
00:51:00,893 --> 00:51:04,293
Speaker 4: that we have same one Someone, there's there's a there's

968
00:51:04,333 --> 00:51:07,293
Speaker 4: a there's a dialect in Someone and Hawai which has

969
00:51:07,373 --> 00:51:09,653
Speaker 4: the mildi ta and the mildy R and the maldi W.

970
00:51:10,413 --> 00:51:14,253
Speaker 8: So so I chose to use that dialect and my

971
00:51:14,413 --> 00:51:16,253
Speaker 8: character to hopefully.

972
00:51:17,173 --> 00:51:22,773
Speaker 4: Connect this this this thousand years, thousands of years apart

973
00:51:23,373 --> 00:51:27,373
Speaker 4: and thousands of miles away, still our language and our

974
00:51:27,453 --> 00:51:30,613
Speaker 4: customs live through this series.

975
00:51:30,693 --> 00:51:33,773
Speaker 8: It's a beautiful, beautiful celebration of our heritage.

976
00:51:34,293 --> 00:51:36,533
Speaker 3: Well, I don't expect you had much time to google

977
00:51:36,613 --> 00:51:39,413
Speaker 3: yourself these days, but I read an interview with Jason.

978
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:40,733
Speaker 8: And which he said, think of anything worse.

979
00:51:40,893 --> 00:51:43,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, true, he's very wise. He said, if Cliff and

980
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:46,773
Speaker 3: Tim are not nominated for Emmys for their efforts with

981
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:49,413
Speaker 3: the language, I will effing lose my ship. So there

982
00:51:49,413 --> 00:51:49,613
Speaker 3: you go.

983
00:51:50,453 --> 00:51:52,253
Speaker 8: Oh well, I won't be holding my breath for that.

984
00:51:52,653 --> 00:51:53,733
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you this much.

985
00:51:54,693 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 4: I've seen Jason's work, and from you know, his body

986
00:51:58,373 --> 00:52:01,853
Speaker 4: of work, he's he's a he's a mega movie star nowadays,

987
00:52:02,333 --> 00:52:04,733
Speaker 4: and he's you know, he's he's got a significant body

988
00:52:04,733 --> 00:52:07,693
Speaker 4: of work, but I've never seen his work'll be of

989
00:52:07,773 --> 00:52:11,013
Speaker 4: such depth and nance and subtlety and emotion. It's the

990
00:52:11,053 --> 00:52:13,613
Speaker 4: best work of his career that I've seen. And same

991
00:52:13,653 --> 00:52:16,013
Speaker 4: with Tim Wider Morrison. He was born to be a

992
00:52:16,253 --> 00:52:19,133
Speaker 4: Hawaiian king. You know, he's got a whole way that

993
00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:21,493
Speaker 4: he is in the world as a Maudi, as a

994
00:52:21,573 --> 00:52:24,533
Speaker 4: human being, he's quite distinct, but when you put them

995
00:52:24,573 --> 00:52:27,653
Speaker 4: in the role of King Chilly, it all makes sense.

996
00:52:27,693 --> 00:52:36,973
Speaker 8: He's he's absolutely I'm just I'm just completely just yeah,

997
00:52:37,413 --> 00:52:38,613
Speaker 8: where I am. I'm lost words.

998
00:52:38,653 --> 00:52:41,173
Speaker 4: I can't really describe what it is to see Tim,

999
00:52:41,253 --> 00:52:45,133
Speaker 4: wither And and Jason play those roles there that it's

1000
00:52:45,173 --> 00:52:46,853
Speaker 4: the it's the greatest work that I've seen them do

1001
00:52:46,933 --> 00:52:48,773
Speaker 4: in their careers. And I'm very very proud of them

1002
00:52:49,293 --> 00:52:53,053
Speaker 4: and I'm very very you know, humbled and grateful to

1003
00:52:53,133 --> 00:52:53,773
Speaker 4: be alongside.

1004
00:52:53,973 --> 00:52:56,973
Speaker 3: So yeah, well we really appreciate you giving us your time.

1005
00:52:57,013 --> 00:53:02,133
Speaker 3: Congratulations on and also yeah, always thank you. It's always

1006
00:53:02,173 --> 00:53:05,133
Speaker 3: a pleasure to to see your commitment that old Maudi.

1007
00:53:05,333 --> 00:53:07,053
Speaker 8: And to see you represent to go that way. So

1008
00:53:07,933 --> 00:53:16,293
Speaker 8: what kill all right, Modioder.

1009
00:53:17,053 --> 00:53:21,253
Speaker 3: That is Cliff Curtis. Chief of War is the incredible

1010
00:53:21,413 --> 00:53:24,173
Speaker 3: new series streaming on Apple TV plus. Thank you so

1011
00:53:24,293 --> 00:53:26,733
Speaker 3: much for all the attexts, Jack, great interview. Awesome to

1012
00:53:26,773 --> 00:53:29,493
Speaker 3: hear the passion in Cliff's voice. This far into an

1013
00:53:29,573 --> 00:53:34,213
Speaker 3: incredible career. Jack, Lovecliff Curtis. God bless you, Cliff sis Lee,

1014
00:53:34,333 --> 00:53:36,253
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. Ninety two ninety two.

1015
00:53:36,973 --> 00:53:38,973
Speaker 3: If you want to send us a message on news Talks,

1016
00:53:38,973 --> 00:53:40,413
Speaker 3: he'd be this morning. You can email me as well,

1017
00:53:40,453 --> 00:53:42,973
Speaker 3: of course, Jacket News Talks. He'd be dot co dot

1018
00:53:43,173 --> 00:53:46,733
Speaker 3: nz before eleven o'clock this morning. We're in the garden.

1019
00:53:46,773 --> 00:53:49,093
Speaker 3: We're going to ask our man in the garden about

1020
00:53:49,133 --> 00:53:51,493
Speaker 3: the different things different plants might need at this time

1021
00:53:51,533 --> 00:53:53,173
Speaker 3: of year when all of them might be getting a

1022
00:53:53,213 --> 00:53:55,853
Speaker 3: little bit deficient on certain nutrients. So there are a

1023
00:53:55,853 --> 00:53:58,733
Speaker 3: few things you can add that will make your plants

1024
00:53:59,293 --> 00:54:02,093
Speaker 3: thrive that much more, especially once the weathers does start

1025
00:54:02,133 --> 00:54:04,253
Speaker 3: to get a little bit warmer. Next up, though, if

1026
00:54:04,293 --> 00:54:06,653
Speaker 3: you're looking for something good to watch from the of

1027
00:54:06,693 --> 00:54:09,813
Speaker 3: your cat this weekend, it isn't Chief of War. Maybe

1028
00:54:09,853 --> 00:54:11,933
Speaker 3: you're going to zoom through that and look for something new,

1029
00:54:12,453 --> 00:54:14,613
Speaker 3: Good News. It's our screen time segments. So we've got

1030
00:54:14,613 --> 00:54:17,293
Speaker 3: three shows to recommend right now. It's twenty two past.

1031
00:54:17,133 --> 00:54:21,973
Speaker 1: Ten on your weekend Off the right Way Saturday Morning

1032
00:54:22,093 --> 00:54:23,853
Speaker 1: with Jack dam News Talks.

1033
00:54:23,893 --> 00:54:26,933
Speaker 3: It be twenty five fast ten, which means it's up

1034
00:54:27,093 --> 00:54:31,173
Speaker 3: screen time time. Tara Ward is our screen time experts.

1035
00:54:31,173 --> 00:54:33,373
Speaker 3: She's here with her picks for this weekend. Hey Tara,

1036
00:54:34,173 --> 00:54:36,413
Speaker 3: good morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with the show on

1037
00:54:36,733 --> 00:54:39,013
Speaker 3: three now. I think it kicks off tomorrow. Tell us

1038
00:54:39,053 --> 00:54:40,613
Speaker 3: about the Assassin.

1039
00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:44,653
Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a new action packed British spy thriller

1040
00:54:44,653 --> 00:54:47,773
Speaker 16: of it drops on three Now tomorrow. This has started

1041
00:54:47,813 --> 00:54:50,413
Speaker 16: screening in the UK already and it's been getting great

1042
00:54:50,973 --> 00:54:53,093
Speaker 16: five star reviews and I think a lot of people

1043
00:54:53,173 --> 00:54:56,053
Speaker 16: will love it here as well. It stars Keey Hawes

1044
00:54:56,053 --> 00:54:59,213
Speaker 16: who's been in shows like Spooks and Bodyguard, and Freddie

1045
00:54:59,293 --> 00:55:02,693
Speaker 16: high Moore from The Good Doctor. They play an estranged

1046
00:55:02,773 --> 00:55:05,733
Speaker 16: mother and son. Edward goes to visit his mum, Julie

1047
00:55:05,893 --> 00:55:08,173
Speaker 16: on the the Greek island where she lives. It's a

1048
00:55:08,333 --> 00:55:10,893
Speaker 16: very awkward reunion. There's a lot of tension between them.

1049
00:55:11,373 --> 00:55:14,133
Speaker 16: What Edward doesn't know is that his mother is a

1050
00:55:14,253 --> 00:55:17,653
Speaker 16: retired assassin, and just as he arrives on the island,

1051
00:55:17,853 --> 00:55:20,373
Speaker 16: she is reluctantly pulled back in for one last job.

1052
00:55:21,093 --> 00:55:23,733
Speaker 16: But it's actually her life that's in danger, and when

1053
00:55:23,773 --> 00:55:26,013
Speaker 16: she is hunted down, they both have to flee, and

1054
00:55:26,133 --> 00:55:28,893
Speaker 16: so they go on the run together across Europe, trying

1055
00:55:28,933 --> 00:55:31,493
Speaker 16: to work out who's killing them while also trying to

1056
00:55:31,573 --> 00:55:35,133
Speaker 16: hide her identity. And this is just a lot of fun.

1057
00:55:35,253 --> 00:55:39,373
Speaker 16: It's sharp, it's stylish, it's darkly funny. It is violent

1058
00:55:39,413 --> 00:55:42,013
Speaker 16: at times, but it's leaning into that idea that the

1059
00:55:42,173 --> 00:55:44,573
Speaker 16: last person you would expect to be an assassin is

1060
00:55:44,613 --> 00:55:46,973
Speaker 16: a middle aged woman, and then you've got the strained

1061
00:55:47,053 --> 00:55:50,613
Speaker 16: family dynamic between Julian Edwards at the center as well.

1062
00:55:50,653 --> 00:55:52,853
Speaker 16: But what I liked about it was it's just having

1063
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:55,413
Speaker 16: fun with the spy thriller genre. You know, it knows

1064
00:55:55,533 --> 00:55:59,173
Speaker 16: this is a preposterous idea and that ridiculous things are

1065
00:55:59,213 --> 00:56:01,173
Speaker 16: going to happen along the way, but it's running with

1066
00:56:01,293 --> 00:56:03,493
Speaker 16: it and it's having a really good time when it

1067
00:56:03,573 --> 00:56:04,173
Speaker 16: does nice.

1068
00:56:04,213 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 3: So it does sound like a bit of fun, a

1069
00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:07,853
Speaker 3: bit of escape. I'm a big pretty high More fan

1070
00:56:07,933 --> 00:56:08,253
Speaker 3: as well.

1071
00:56:09,173 --> 00:56:10,613
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, he's good in us too.

1072
00:56:11,293 --> 00:56:14,893
Speaker 3: So do you know he speaks like five languages. I think, Wow,

1073
00:56:15,093 --> 00:56:19,133
Speaker 3: he's ridiculously Yeah, he's got kind of ridiculously good with languages.

1074
00:56:19,173 --> 00:56:21,213
Speaker 3: So anyway, I don't know anything with a bit of

1075
00:56:21,253 --> 00:56:22,613
Speaker 3: Freddy High was a bit of me, I reckon.

1076
00:56:22,773 --> 00:56:22,973
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1077
00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:25,493
Speaker 3: So that is the Assassin. That's on three now from

1078
00:56:25,653 --> 00:56:29,133
Speaker 3: tomorrow on Neon tell us about Outrageous.

1079
00:56:30,333 --> 00:56:33,253
Speaker 16: Yeah. Another British drama. This one is quite different though.

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Speaker 16: This is a new BBC historical drama and it's based

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Speaker 16: on the true story about the lives of the Midford sisters.

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Speaker 16: And the Midfields were six young women who grew up

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Speaker 16: in upper class Britain during the nineteen thirties and they

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Speaker 16: became well known publicly because of the controversial lives that

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Speaker 16: each of them led. They all went off in different

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Speaker 16: directions politically and socially, and their lives were full of

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Speaker 16: scandal and they were often in the headlines. One sister

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Speaker 16: was a communist, another became a fascist, one became a duchess,

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Speaker 16: another became a writer. They all lived really unusual lives

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Speaker 16: and they had this wide range of social connections from

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Speaker 16: from Churchill to Hitler. And we're living these lives during

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Speaker 16: this tumultuous time politically and socially in the Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a very like it's.

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Speaker 16: A strange story, but it's also really fascinating about this

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Speaker 16: aristocratic family who set their own rules and did their

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Speaker 16: own thing, but were all still connected as sisters, and

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Speaker 16: the BBC have brought them to life in this show.

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Speaker 16: That's that's full of energy and flair. It's based on

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Speaker 16: a biography by Mary Lovell, and watching this maybe want

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Speaker 16: to go off and read it and find out more

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Speaker 16: about what really went on. It's such a sensational story

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Speaker 16: and perfect for a TV series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah great, Okay, that's outrageous. So that's on Neon and

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Speaker 3: on TVNZ plus. Murder in a Small Town.

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Speaker 16: Yes, there's a new murder mystery series that drops on

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Speaker 16: TVNS plus from tonight. And if you're a fan of slower,

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Speaker 16: gentle TV show most like the Broken Wood Mysteries or

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Speaker 16: Virgin River kind of comfort watches. Even though this is

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Speaker 16: a murder series, I think you're like that. It's Canadian.

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Speaker 16: It's filmed in this beautiful seaside town in British Columbia,

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Speaker 16: and it's about a big city police detective who moves

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Speaker 16: to a small town to start his life over again.

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Speaker 16: He's expecting a quiet life, but people in the town

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Speaker 16: just keep getting killed, and so each episode is a

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Speaker 16: murder of the week kind of set up, and there's

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Speaker 16: a bit of romance in there as well, in a

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Speaker 16: sassy teenage order. It does have a bit of a

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Speaker 16: hallmark kind of vibe to it. But if you want

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Speaker 16: something that's a comfort watch and sort of reassuringly predictable

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Speaker 16: with a beautiful setting, this is definitely worth they checking out.

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Speaker 3: They haven't exactly pushed the creativity boat out too far

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Speaker 3: when it comes.

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Speaker 16: From you know what you are getting with us, there

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Speaker 16: will be very few surprises.

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Speaker 3: I think Murder in a Small Town is the name

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Speaker 3: of that series.

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Speaker 16: Weeks of workshopping that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's on TV and D Plus. So Outrageous

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Speaker 3: is on the on That's the one about the Midford Sisters.

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Speaker 3: The Assassin is on three now and we'll have details

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Speaker 3: for all of those shows up on the news Talks website.

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Speaker 3: Thanks sarup.

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Speaker 2: Getting your weekends started.

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Speaker 1: It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News TALKSB want

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Speaker 1: to see.

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Speaker 16: Again, I don't want to be off?

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Speaker 17: Don't say your word do you want to to come to.

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Speaker 2: Keeping that show just so it happens?

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Speaker 18: Happen se time to take your money, turn it to.

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Speaker 8: Hell.

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Speaker 3: This this band is called Prepare Yourself Folk Bitch Trio

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Speaker 3: or if BT, the kind of crack the and making

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Speaker 3: their musical dreams of reality. So there are three of

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Speaker 3: them that make up FBT. They are from Melbourne and

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Speaker 3: they've been making a few waves internationally with their twist

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Speaker 3: on folk music and the kind of delicate treatment by

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Speaker 3: which they deliver it. Rolling Stone has described fbt's music

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Speaker 3: as lush, and the trio is often praised for the

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Speaker 3: kind of shared sense of humor which they've embedded through

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Speaker 3: their music and their lyrics. And of anyway, they've just

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Speaker 3: released the debut album. The album's called Now Would Be

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Speaker 3: a Good Time And there's a week connection with New

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Speaker 3: Zealand in that they recorded it in Auckland. So our

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Speaker 3: music reviewer is going to be listening to the album

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Speaker 3: and sharing her thoughts with us when she joins us

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Speaker 3: before mid day today. But I like that the first

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Speaker 3: little sound of first I've ever heard of FBT, to

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Speaker 3: be perfectly honest, Yeah, but to me, I reckon, Hey,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your feedback. Jack Cliff Curtis has never

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Speaker 3: changed from a thoroughly decent, down to earth, approachable bloke.

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Speaker 3: His fame never seems to have gone to his head,

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Speaker 3: and he seems not who have sucked up that superficial

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Speaker 3: Hollywood puffer, says Pauline. Thank you for that, Pauline, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two. If you want to send us

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Speaker 3: a text like Pauline did, don't forget after eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 3: right after the eleven o'clock news this morning, we're going

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Speaker 3: to give you the secrets on living a long life.

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Speaker 3: Here's the secret to living a long life. Unfortunately, they're

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Speaker 3: not really secrets, and unfortunately there's nothing that's easy. It's

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Speaker 3: basically just like, oh, you've got to eat lots of vegetables,

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Speaker 3: and like, oh, don't don't don't, don't have any vices,

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Speaker 3: don't drink too much, don't smoke, don't have any stress

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Speaker 3: in your life. So all really easy stuff. But now

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Speaker 3: we're going to take a closer look at the things

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Speaker 3: they reckon have distinguished the Blue zones around the world,

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Speaker 3: these different regions and quite geographically distinct parts of the

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Speaker 3: world where they have abnormal numbers of people who lived

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Speaker 3: to one hundred years old. So I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 3: that conversation right after the eleven o'clock news. Right now

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Speaker 3: it's twenty five minutes to eleven, putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 18: Breakfast no idea that's been reheated with the brief paper

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Speaker 18: suggesting that NCEEA has failed to provide clear pathways into

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Speaker 18: the trades. Doctor Sandra Grays, the Tertiary Education Union National

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Speaker 18: Secretary Look New.

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Speaker 19: Zealand, does unfortunately have quite a bad attitude towards trades

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Speaker 19: and vocational education.

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Speaker 4: We have this idea that if.

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Speaker 19: You push everybody into the academic and into universities, we're

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Speaker 19: going to get.

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Speaker 9: Higher wages, You're going to get a better live outcome.

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Speaker 19: So this is a system wise problem. We don't take

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Speaker 19: vocational education seriously and we really don't talk to early

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Speaker 19: enough about the mani parts that you can take in

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Speaker 19: your life.

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Speaker 18: Mac Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: a Vida News Talk ZB Well.

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Speaker 3: Microsoft has become the second company in the world to

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Speaker 3: pass the auspicious mark of having or of being worth

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Speaker 3: more than four trillion dollars, so more than four thousand

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Speaker 3: billion US dollars. You can say, well, of course Microsoft

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Speaker 3: was always going to get there, but if you think

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Speaker 3: about it, Microsoft has had a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: rough period. It looked like Apple was the darling for

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Speaker 3: a long time, but actually Microsoft has leap frog Apple.

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Speaker 3: Now here with the details, is our texpert Paul Stenhouseku

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Speaker 3: to Paul.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, good morning, and guess what, Jack, You just can't

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Speaker 15: guess what has pushed this company to four trillion dollars?

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Speaker 20: Can you?

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Speaker 3: Can it have anything to do with I don't know, AI, Paul,

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Speaker 3: Maybe something to do with Yeah.

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Speaker 15: No, it's it's interesting because they, you know, all of

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Speaker 15: these companies have gone into this the cloud computing business,

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Speaker 15: and it's the cloud computing business for Microsoft that has

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Speaker 15: really feeled them. They had a standout quarter which really

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Speaker 15: pushed them over that four trillion.

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Speaker 8: Dollar market cap.

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Speaker 15: All we cause this cloud computing provides compute services. Now

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Speaker 15: for AI that is just an hot, hot, hot demand.

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Speaker 15: But you know, you think of the time period where

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Speaker 15: Google was really sort of on the up. They'd started

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Speaker 15: to get into their desktop software type market where Microsoft was.

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Speaker 15: They started to create Google Docs, which took over from

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Speaker 15: Microsoft Word and sheets that took over from Excel, and

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Speaker 15: people were sort of saying, you can't collaborate on Office.

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Speaker 15: It's dead. Microsoft is done, you know, Windows computers kind

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Speaker 15: of fell out of favor a little bit.

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Speaker 13: Apple took on this, you know, this this.

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Speaker 15: World of interconnectivity between your MacBook and your iPhone. People

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Speaker 15: were very excited about all of that, and they thought

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Speaker 15: maybe it was just going to go the way of

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Speaker 15: Yahoo and just sort of fade off. But man, they

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Speaker 15: have absolutely turned that business around, and they now in

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Speaker 15: that big cloud category amongst the many categories they are in,

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Speaker 15: but they are now just second to Aws in that

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Speaker 15: cloud category. And it's they're not going to stop spending

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Speaker 15: because they CFO sit on the earnings call. They're going

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Speaker 15: to spend thirty billion dollars on AI infrastructure in the

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Speaker 15: next quarter.

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Speaker 3: So in the next three see ten billion dollars a mile,

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Speaker 3: ten dollar dollars a month. So what two and a

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Speaker 3: half billion dollars a week at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Wild, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: So can I give you another number?

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Speaker 15: Because I think I think sometimes we forget just how

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Speaker 15: big some of these numbers are. So four trillion US

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Speaker 15: dollars okay, would be like giving all five point three

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Speaker 15: million New Zealanders three quarters of a million US dollars,

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Speaker 15: which would be one point three million New Zealand dollars.

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Speaker 13: Can you imagine from like there is people forget.

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Speaker 21: Oh you're like, oh, you know, you know, four.

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Speaker 15: Trillion, it's just one bigger than three point nine. Now,

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Speaker 15: these are big numbers we're talking about here, people, and

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Speaker 15: it's just and it's accelerating, right. First US company to

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Speaker 15: hit one trillion was in twenty eighteen was Apple. Second, sorry,

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Speaker 15: first to hit two trillion was in twenty twenty. First

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Speaker 15: to hit three trillion was twenty twenty two, also Apple.

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Speaker 15: So by that math, they really should have hit four

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Speaker 15: trillion in twenty twenty four that they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the absolute back of the envelope sums from me

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Speaker 3: is that it's about it's worth about eighteen times our

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Speaker 3: annual GDP. It's just ridiculous, isn't it. It's just absolutely ridiculous. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: Apple is not only slip behind Microsoft in terms of

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Speaker 3: in terms of the valuation of the company, but they've

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Speaker 3: announced that the tariffs are going to cost them another

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Speaker 3: billion dollars.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, note the word they're another billion dollars because that's

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Speaker 15: on top of the eight hundred million dollars they've already eaten, right,

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Speaker 15: They've just taken on this tariff cost, and that was

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Speaker 15: just during the June quarter. So they're going to spend

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Speaker 15: close to two billion bucks probably this year on tariffs,

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Speaker 15: which is just crazy. But I mean, look look rounding

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Speaker 15: eras I guess in some ways Jack, because their quarterly

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Speaker 15: revenue jumped ten percent, ninety four billion dollars they pulled

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Speaker 15: in between April and June, and they've been trying to

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Speaker 15: really get around some of this tariff stuff. We talked

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Speaker 15: about how they charted a plane. It just well planes

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Speaker 15: and just sent iPhones, you know, like the United States

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Speaker 15: as fast as they possibly could. They've tried to move

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Speaker 15: a bunch of their iPhone production to India to move

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Speaker 15: to get away from someone of the China tariffs. But

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Speaker 15: Donald Trump is threatening them that if they don't start

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Speaker 15: producing phones products in the United States, he could be

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Speaker 15: slapping them with a twenty five percent tariff man.

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Speaker 13: So I guess that's.

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Speaker 15: Probably why they just decided to eat close to two

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Speaker 15: billion dollars in tariffs, because if they had passed it

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Speaker 15: on to consumers, I have a feeling his eyes may

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Speaker 15: have turned their direction.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, thank you so much, Paul, really

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time. As always our text. But Paul Stenhouse

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Speaker 3: there it is I reckon about the size of a

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01:07:48,933 --> 01:07:53,973
Speaker 3: Manila folder, right, This incredible new species they announced they

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Speaker 3: had discovered in northern Coeensland this week. It's a stick insect.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like, I mean, it's a stick inject

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Speaker 3: that it's got I didn't know this at stick inticks.

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Speaker 3: Some of them have wings, so it's got wings and

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Speaker 3: you open it, it's kind of like a little Manila folder.

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Speaker 3: This thing is enormous. Okay, it's forty four grams, which

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Speaker 3: is apparently almost the size of a almost the weight

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Speaker 3: of a golf ball. And yeah, researchers at Jamescott University

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01:08:19,973 --> 01:08:24,293
Speaker 3: in Queensland have only like discovered in the last couple

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01:08:24,293 --> 01:08:27,453
Speaker 3: of months. But anyway, this thing is absolutely ridiculous. It

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01:08:27,493 --> 01:08:30,013
Speaker 3: looks kind of freakish. It's one of those great reminders

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Speaker 3: in life that for all of the wonders of the

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Speaker 3: world that have already been discovered, there are still a

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Speaker 3: lot of things out there, crazy things kind of like

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01:08:39,733 --> 01:08:43,613
Speaker 3: mega fauna, things that are still waiting to be discovered. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to talking to Rude clim Past about

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Speaker 3: this because I know he will have been all over

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Speaker 3: this this week. He's going to be with us very

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Speaker 3: shortly when he joins us before the eleven o'clock News.

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Speaker 3: Next up, though, our Master Somlier with his pick for

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Speaker 3: this week at sixteen to eleven on News Talks, he'd

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Speaker 3: be why no.

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Speaker 1: Better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack

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01:09:03,733 --> 01:09:08,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks fourteen to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Have you looking for a good drop this weekend? Master

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Speaker 3: Somalier Cameron Douglas has chosen his recommendation. It's the Two

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01:09:15,013 --> 01:09:19,493
Speaker 3: Rivers Convergence Sauvignon blanc twenty twenty five from Marlborough. It

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01:09:19,613 --> 01:09:22,133
Speaker 3: retails for about twenty two bucks and Cameron is with us.

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Speaker 3: Noaw Caunterer Cameron, Good morning, Caudra tell us about the convergence.

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Speaker 10: Well, it's called convergence because it is the origin of

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01:09:33,133 --> 01:09:36,813
Speaker 10: the fruit comes from both the arbitreri Valiant River and

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Speaker 10: the Wiral Valiant River areas in Marlborough. So it's bringing

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01:09:41,533 --> 01:09:46,693
Speaker 10: those two ideas of soil and fruit and energy all

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Speaker 10: into one blend.

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01:09:48,973 --> 01:09:50,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice. What does it taste like?

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01:09:51,533 --> 01:09:54,693
Speaker 10: Well, it's We're seeing a lot of twenty twenty fives

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01:09:54,733 --> 01:09:57,253
Speaker 10: come onto the market at this time of year, and

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Speaker 10: I've chosen one that really ticks all the boxes of pungent,

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01:10:01,653 --> 01:10:07,413
Speaker 10: right varietal, high energy characters. So it delivers on flavors

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01:10:07,493 --> 01:10:11,373
Speaker 10: of everything from bell pip to lime peel, to apple

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01:10:11,573 --> 01:10:14,493
Speaker 10: to white peach. It even has that sort of tropical

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01:10:14,573 --> 01:10:17,413
Speaker 10: lick of green mango that I really like in Cape gooseberry.

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Speaker 10: Some people find Sauvignon blanc have like a fresh herbaceousness

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01:10:21,493 --> 01:10:25,493
Speaker 10: to it as well, which I call basil or sage

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01:10:25,893 --> 01:10:27,893
Speaker 10: in a wine. But it really is this wine that

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01:10:28,053 --> 01:10:32,853
Speaker 10: has a youthful, high energy, laser like acidity about it,

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01:10:33,173 --> 01:10:36,093
Speaker 10: lots of fresh fruit flavors. It's just so delightful and

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01:10:36,253 --> 01:10:37,533
Speaker 10: salivating on the palette.

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01:10:37,653 --> 01:10:39,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds great. So the twenty twenty five and

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01:10:39,933 --> 01:10:42,733
Speaker 3: has must I mean this must have only just at

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01:10:42,773 --> 01:10:45,853
Speaker 3: the market, right, Absolutely true.

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Speaker 10: I've been tasting wine at home this morning and I've

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01:10:48,053 --> 01:10:51,413
Speaker 10: had a couple of reaslings Gabert's treminas and Sauvignon blancs

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01:10:51,493 --> 01:10:55,013
Speaker 10: as well, So they're starting to come across my desk

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01:10:55,133 --> 01:10:55,693
Speaker 10: for a review.

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01:10:55,853 --> 01:10:58,093
Speaker 3: Oh, very good. So what would you match with the

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01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:00,333
Speaker 3: two rivers convergence of nan Blanc.

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01:11:01,933 --> 01:11:07,133
Speaker 10: Well, this wine's all about crunch, It's all about intensity

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01:11:07,213 --> 01:11:10,453
Speaker 10: and pungency. So I think food that is either crunchy

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01:11:10,613 --> 01:11:14,493
Speaker 10: or fresh, salty or rich works very well with Sauvignon Blanc.

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01:11:14,573 --> 01:11:17,253
Speaker 10: And I have a couple of different options for listeners

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Speaker 10: to consider. And if you like fresh oysters, then Sovin

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01:11:20,653 --> 01:11:24,693
Speaker 10: Blanc is definitely a classic match for you. However, not

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01:11:24,813 --> 01:11:30,053
Speaker 10: everybody likes oysters, So if you are into muscles, freshly

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01:11:30,173 --> 01:11:34,813
Speaker 10: harvested barbecue on the boat, green lip muscles are nice

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01:11:34,813 --> 01:11:38,413
Speaker 10: and salty for Sauvignon Blanc, it works really really well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds yeah, it sounds absolutely amazing. How has

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01:11:44,453 --> 01:11:47,733
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five vintage been for those marble producers.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a really good question, and it's been pretty

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01:11:51,013 --> 01:11:54,253
Speaker 10: near perfect actually, And I think it's all about the

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01:11:54,613 --> 01:11:59,373
Speaker 10: delicacy and the thresholds of ripening and growing of fruit

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01:11:59,533 --> 01:12:03,213
Speaker 10: from flowering first and foremost. If those conditions are right,

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01:12:03,973 --> 01:12:07,733
Speaker 10: then the croploads are perfect, and then you have to

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01:12:07,853 --> 01:12:11,093
Speaker 10: meet the threshold of fruit set, which happens shortly after

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01:12:11,573 --> 01:12:14,453
Speaker 10: and again this was near perfect for them and then

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01:12:14,893 --> 01:12:19,213
Speaker 10: no disease pressure. So it's a wonderful, wonderful vintage. It

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01:12:19,333 --> 01:12:22,413
Speaker 10: really is a gift of nature back to us and

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01:12:22,693 --> 01:12:25,253
Speaker 10: giving us or giving us wines that we're really going

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01:12:25,293 --> 01:12:28,373
Speaker 10: to appreciate and enjoy. And if you find a wine

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01:12:28,413 --> 01:12:32,613
Speaker 10: that has this little saltiness on the finish, that's part

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01:12:32,613 --> 01:12:36,653
Speaker 10: of the acid line that really does get the taste buds.

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01:12:38,213 --> 01:12:38,613
Speaker 2: Alive.

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01:12:38,773 --> 01:12:39,933
Speaker 10: It sort of wakes them up.

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01:12:40,253 --> 01:12:42,733
Speaker 3: Oh it's that stupid camera, and thank you. So that's

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01:12:42,933 --> 01:12:46,853
Speaker 3: the Two Rivers convergence. Somnon Blanc twenty twenty five is

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01:12:46,933 --> 01:12:51,133
Speaker 3: the vintage and it retails for about twenty two dollars.

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01:12:51,173 --> 01:12:52,893
Speaker 3: Will make sure the details are on our website.

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01:12:53,333 --> 01:12:56,533
Speaker 1: Garding with Steel Sharp one hundred bucks of free accessories

1383
01:12:56,613 --> 01:12:58,293
Speaker 1: on selected Chainsawce.

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01:12:58,013 --> 01:13:01,173
Speaker 3: Rude Climb passes our man in the garden this morning

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01:13:01,213 --> 01:13:03,733
Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about nutrient deficiencies that I

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01:13:03,813 --> 01:13:06,573
Speaker 3: think will be afflicting many gardens at this time of

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01:13:06,693 --> 01:13:08,173
Speaker 3: year in a few minutes. But first of all, did

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Speaker 3: you see it. You saw the big stick intect?

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01:13:10,933 --> 01:13:14,133
Speaker 7: Yeah I did, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen something similar

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01:13:14,253 --> 01:13:17,893
Speaker 7: in North in North Australia when I was filming the

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01:13:17,933 --> 01:13:19,773
Speaker 7: Bug and series. Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was a

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01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:22,613
Speaker 7: different species. But boy they are they're big things.

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01:13:22,693 --> 01:13:23,693
Speaker 2: Ah good, They're a.

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01:13:23,773 --> 01:13:24,493
Speaker 8: Made like there.

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01:13:24,933 --> 01:13:27,893
Speaker 3: And and there's something about stick insects that's very alien

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01:13:28,173 --> 01:13:31,573
Speaker 3: as well. Don't you think I think it's like this

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01:13:31,973 --> 01:13:34,453
Speaker 3: because they're so skinny and the way they move or something,

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01:13:34,533 --> 01:13:36,333
Speaker 3: there's something. Yeah, I don't know, there's something weird this,

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01:13:36,653 --> 01:13:37,213
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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01:13:37,333 --> 01:13:39,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they sway left to right.

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01:13:39,933 --> 01:13:43,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, you pleased to know that. The

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01:13:43,773 --> 01:13:45,533
Speaker 3: moment I saw it, and I saw the photo on

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01:13:45,613 --> 01:13:47,853
Speaker 3: the using on hero website, and I was like, oh

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01:13:48,293 --> 01:13:51,613
Speaker 3: my goodness. I had two thoughts. First of all, the

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01:13:51,693 --> 01:13:53,373
Speaker 3: first thought I had was, isn't it awesome that we

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01:13:53,493 --> 01:13:56,093
Speaker 3: live in an age where despite everything that our species

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01:13:56,173 --> 01:13:58,133
Speaker 3: has kind of done and achieved and every corner of

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01:13:58,173 --> 01:14:00,373
Speaker 3: the earth has been checked off blah blah blah, we

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01:14:00,533 --> 01:14:04,373
Speaker 3: can still be delighted and surprised in discovering new species

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01:14:04,493 --> 01:14:07,093
Speaker 3: like this. Like it's not a little micro it's like

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01:14:08,013 --> 01:14:09,893
Speaker 3: it's like the size of a Manila fold. It's like

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01:14:09,893 --> 01:14:12,653
Speaker 3: a dinner plate, you know. And number two, I was

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01:14:12,773 --> 01:14:14,973
Speaker 3: like broad climb past is gonna be so excited.

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01:14:16,173 --> 01:14:16,493
Speaker 20: I am.

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01:14:16,653 --> 01:14:17,373
Speaker 2: I was excited.

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01:14:17,413 --> 01:14:18,333
Speaker 7: I thought it was wonderful.

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01:14:18,613 --> 01:14:18,893
Speaker 8: You know what.

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01:14:19,013 --> 01:14:21,813
Speaker 7: I first thought it was typically Ozzy to come up

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01:14:21,893 --> 01:14:22,493
Speaker 7: with that story.

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01:14:22,573 --> 01:14:23,053
Speaker 2: I suppose.

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01:14:23,493 --> 01:14:27,933
Speaker 7: Did you know that our giant weather weighs sixty grams,

1422
01:14:28,293 --> 01:14:31,973
Speaker 7: that only forty only forty, So.

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01:14:32,093 --> 01:14:34,293
Speaker 3: This is a this's a giant wed from hot to

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01:14:34,413 --> 01:14:37,733
Speaker 3: either from little barrier. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the one.

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01:14:37,853 --> 01:14:39,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

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01:14:39,733 --> 01:14:44,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, so yeah, it's you got and yeah, well

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01:14:44,773 --> 01:14:47,973
Speaker 3: I've always got you know that. But no, I think

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01:14:48,053 --> 01:14:51,613
Speaker 3: the nutrient deficiency is certainly something that afflicts us.

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01:14:52,653 --> 01:14:52,853
Speaker 10: Yeah.

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01:14:53,333 --> 01:14:55,613
Speaker 7: I think that's something that we should really start looking

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01:14:55,653 --> 01:14:59,213
Speaker 7: at from now anyway, Jack. And there's two types of

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01:14:59,573 --> 01:15:04,093
Speaker 7: there's nitrogen phosphate and potash and magnesium the main soluble

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01:15:04,213 --> 01:15:07,653
Speaker 7: things that that actually can be soluble in water. And

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Speaker 7: that's important because a lot of the smaller micronutrients cannot

1435
01:15:13,773 --> 01:15:16,813
Speaker 7: dissolve themselves in more water. And that means that if

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01:15:16,853 --> 01:15:20,413
Speaker 7: you've got a deficiency for inst of those little micronutrients,

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01:15:20,773 --> 01:15:25,893
Speaker 7: it's always on the old leaves. In other words, they

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01:15:26,053 --> 01:15:28,973
Speaker 7: can't on the new leaves. The old leaves have got

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01:15:29,053 --> 01:15:30,973
Speaker 7: the material in them. The still and they grow. The

1440
01:15:31,053 --> 01:15:34,213
Speaker 7: plant grows and it tries to get some micronutrients to

1441
01:15:34,333 --> 01:15:37,413
Speaker 7: the new leaves, and it cannot get them there because

1442
01:15:37,453 --> 01:15:40,853
Speaker 7: it doesn't dissolve in water. That shows you that if

1443
01:15:40,933 --> 01:15:45,053
Speaker 7: you've got a plant with some old crappy leaves in

1444
01:15:45,173 --> 01:15:48,693
Speaker 7: the bottom, it is usually something that cannot be taken

1445
01:15:48,813 --> 01:15:53,013
Speaker 7: up to the that can't be even taken up after photosynthesis.

1446
01:15:53,213 --> 01:15:56,933
Speaker 7: So these are important things. That's a good one. So

1447
01:15:57,253 --> 01:16:00,333
Speaker 7: those nitrogen, phosphate and potash. We've talked about that a

1448
01:16:00,413 --> 01:16:05,333
Speaker 7: lot of times. Nitrogen does the leaf growth, the phosphorus

1449
01:16:05,413 --> 01:16:08,413
Speaker 7: does the root growth, potest trees, flowers and fruits, in

1450
01:16:08,533 --> 01:16:12,333
Speaker 7: other words, the sexual reproduction of plants. But if you

1451
01:16:12,373 --> 01:16:15,413
Speaker 7: go to the little ones, they do so much more too.

1452
01:16:15,773 --> 01:16:19,733
Speaker 7: They have all sorts of little jobs, especially photosynthesis and

1453
01:16:19,813 --> 01:16:22,453
Speaker 7: so on and so forth, and we need those and

1454
01:16:22,573 --> 01:16:25,053
Speaker 7: a lot of people forget that. So from now on,

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01:16:25,293 --> 01:16:28,573
Speaker 7: if you start watering your plants in winter time up

1456
01:16:28,733 --> 01:16:32,973
Speaker 7: coming up into into spring, make sure you've got those

1457
01:16:33,133 --> 01:16:38,493
Speaker 7: micronutrients as well as the NPK in your garden, because

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01:16:38,573 --> 01:16:41,493
Speaker 7: that is a completely good diet.

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01:16:41,653 --> 01:16:44,813
Speaker 3: So is that if you if you're lacking on the micronutrients.

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01:16:44,853 --> 01:16:46,893
Speaker 3: Do you have major problems you know, like is it

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01:16:48,053 --> 01:16:50,813
Speaker 3: can just a small deficiency where the micronutrient have a

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01:16:50,853 --> 01:16:54,213
Speaker 3: big impact, because like you said, we always can't, right.

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01:16:55,173 --> 01:16:57,933
Speaker 7: It can, because some of these things do an amazing

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01:16:58,053 --> 01:17:00,893
Speaker 7: job in there, but they don't need as much as

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01:17:00,973 --> 01:17:05,213
Speaker 7: those large you know, the NPK type materials, but they

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01:17:05,293 --> 01:17:08,333
Speaker 7: certainly are there and all to get a little bag

1467
01:17:08,493 --> 01:17:13,413
Speaker 7: of that of that micronutrients if you like the trace

1468
01:17:13,533 --> 01:17:16,813
Speaker 7: elements and don't forget to use that every now and then.

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01:17:17,413 --> 01:17:19,213
Speaker 2: And finally you can even use.

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01:17:19,213 --> 01:17:24,253
Speaker 3: Norri oh okay seaweed. Yeah, yeah, the seaweed.

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01:17:24,573 --> 01:17:28,413
Speaker 7: It is one of the best best machines of micro nutrients.

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01:17:28,733 --> 01:17:29,733
Speaker 7: Japanese seaweeds.

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01:17:30,213 --> 01:17:34,093
Speaker 3: No, totally. My sister and brother in lawa expert gardeners,

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01:17:34,093 --> 01:17:37,253
Speaker 3: and they swear by the seaweed in their garden, absolutely

1475
01:17:37,293 --> 01:17:39,133
Speaker 3: swear by it. So that sounds great. Hey, thank you,

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01:17:39,453 --> 01:17:41,373
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. We will make sure all of

1477
01:17:41,413 --> 01:17:44,293
Speaker 3: the details about those micro nutrients and a few examples

1478
01:17:44,333 --> 01:17:46,733
Speaker 3: of the fertilizers that might help at this time of year,

1479
01:17:47,573 --> 01:17:50,453
Speaker 3: especially as you increase water and heading into spring. We'll

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01:17:50,493 --> 01:17:52,853
Speaker 3: make sure that that is on the news Talks website

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01:17:53,093 --> 01:17:55,333
Speaker 3: route climb pass in the garden for us right after

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01:17:55,413 --> 01:17:58,453
Speaker 3: the eleven o'clock news What's the secret to a long life? Yes,

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01:17:58,693 --> 01:18:00,493
Speaker 3: we're going to make you wait five or ten minutes

1484
01:18:00,573 --> 01:18:02,773
Speaker 3: until we give you all the gas on that front.

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Speaker 3: News is next. It's almost eleven, It's Saturday morning and

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01:18:05,573 --> 01:18:07,693
Speaker 3: I'm Jack Taye. This is News Talks.

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01:18:07,533 --> 01:18:13,653
Speaker 1: EDBA Saturday Morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going

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01:18:13,813 --> 01:18:15,693
Speaker 1: through the weekend News Talks EDB.

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01:18:41,053 --> 01:18:43,333
Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, if you're just turning on the radio this morning,

1490
01:18:43,373 --> 01:18:45,653
Speaker 3: We've missed you, but it is great to have you here.

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01:18:45,693 --> 01:18:48,573
Speaker 3: A better late than never. Good morning, Welcome to News

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01:18:48,613 --> 01:18:51,093
Speaker 3: Talks EDB. Jack. Time with you in the hot seat

1493
01:18:51,293 --> 01:18:54,413
Speaker 3: through the midday today. Very shortly, our travel correspondent, who

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Speaker 3: has been taking a bit of a trip around the UK,

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01:18:57,373 --> 01:19:01,173
Speaker 3: is going to take us all to Liverpool, dearest, part

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01:19:01,213 --> 01:19:03,453
Speaker 3: of the UK. I've never been. I would love to

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01:19:03,533 --> 01:19:06,133
Speaker 3: go to Liverpool. It's actually outrageous that I've never been here,

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01:19:06,893 --> 01:19:11,973
Speaker 3: given my old man's from the UK. I'm a British citizen,

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01:19:12,653 --> 01:19:17,533
Speaker 3: I'm a Liverpool fan. I love the Beatles. Never ends anyway.

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Speaker 3: He's going to give us his top tips on visiting

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Speaker 3: Liverpool when he joins us very shortly. But you might remember,

1502
01:19:23,213 --> 01:19:25,133
Speaker 3: speaking of travel. A few weeks ago, I had the

1503
01:19:25,213 --> 01:19:29,613
Speaker 3: great privilege of spending a week in Costa Rica, of

1504
01:19:29,693 --> 01:19:33,093
Speaker 3: all places. It took a little bit of a family trip,

1505
01:19:33,133 --> 01:19:35,533
Speaker 3: had a little bit of paternity leave. We were in

1506
01:19:35,613 --> 01:19:37,893
Speaker 3: the Northern Hemisphere. We thought, since we're in this part

1507
01:19:37,933 --> 01:19:41,693
Speaker 3: of the world, since we're in we're in the the

1508
01:19:41,973 --> 01:19:44,293
Speaker 3: warmer climbs at the moment, let's make the most of

1509
01:19:44,413 --> 01:19:47,453
Speaker 3: being being up here and take a few days in

1510
01:19:47,493 --> 01:19:50,053
Speaker 3: Costa Rica. And when I was traveling through Costa Rica,

1511
01:19:50,173 --> 01:19:54,333
Speaker 3: I was surprised to travel through the Nicoya Peninsula, which

1512
01:19:54,573 --> 01:19:58,533
Speaker 3: is one of the world's few blue zones. Now, a

1513
01:19:58,573 --> 01:20:01,973
Speaker 3: blue zone is one of these places where, for whatever reason,

1514
01:20:02,053 --> 01:20:06,093
Speaker 3: and there are several reasons, people or citizens of that

1515
01:20:06,733 --> 01:20:11,293
Speaker 3: region on average, have much higher life expectancies than in

1516
01:20:11,373 --> 01:20:13,813
Speaker 3: other parts of the world. So anyway, I wasn't the

1517
01:20:13,853 --> 01:20:18,213
Speaker 3: only one whose interest was peaked by the Nakoya Peninsula

1518
01:20:18,293 --> 01:20:22,813
Speaker 3: and the concept of blue zones. Doogle Sutherland, clinical psychologist

1519
01:20:22,893 --> 01:20:25,493
Speaker 3: from Umbrella Well Being, was interested as well, and he's

1520
01:20:25,533 --> 01:20:28,133
Speaker 3: with us this morning. Calderdogle Cura Jack.

1521
01:20:28,253 --> 01:20:30,013
Speaker 22: Yes, I picked up what you were putting down, and

1522
01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:32,493
Speaker 22: I thought, gosh, I wonder what is about those blue

1523
01:20:32,613 --> 01:20:35,813
Speaker 22: zones that makes them, you know, that magical place And

1524
01:20:35,893 --> 01:20:37,773
Speaker 22: maybe if we all just did what they do, maybe

1525
01:20:37,853 --> 01:20:39,013
Speaker 22: we'd live longer too.

1526
01:20:39,293 --> 01:20:41,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, So what actually is a blue zone? Because you've

1527
01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:43,453
Speaker 3: looked into this more than I did when I was

1528
01:20:43,493 --> 01:20:45,733
Speaker 3: traveling through until I traveled through Costa Rica at the

1529
01:20:45,773 --> 01:20:47,333
Speaker 3: very least, what actually is a blue zone?

1530
01:20:47,853 --> 01:20:48,053
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1531
01:20:48,133 --> 01:20:51,253
Speaker 22: So, I mean you've I think encapsulated in nicely. It's

1532
01:20:51,853 --> 01:20:54,413
Speaker 22: where people on average live tour into their nineties or

1533
01:20:54,453 --> 01:20:57,733
Speaker 22: the hundreds, which is longer than the average life expectancy,

1534
01:20:57,773 --> 01:21:02,093
Speaker 22: which is surprisingly short. Actually it's so worldwide it's seventy

1535
01:21:02,173 --> 01:21:04,653
Speaker 22: one for males and seventy six for females as the

1536
01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:07,813
Speaker 22: average life expectance. I guess if you average that out

1537
01:21:07,853 --> 01:21:10,413
Speaker 22: over some you know, developed countries and third world that

1538
01:21:10,493 --> 01:21:13,093
Speaker 22: perhaps makes sense, but still a little shorter than I thought.

1539
01:21:14,493 --> 01:21:17,853
Speaker 22: But yeah, and four zones that have been identified, so

1540
01:21:18,733 --> 01:21:22,813
Speaker 22: Costa Rica and the Koreia Sardinia was the original one

1541
01:21:22,853 --> 01:21:27,093
Speaker 22: that they identified in two thousand and four Okinawa in Japan,

1542
01:21:27,253 --> 01:21:30,373
Speaker 22: And I think I'm pronouncing this Courrecter Kardia and Greece

1543
01:21:30,813 --> 01:21:34,533
Speaker 22: are four known four known blue zones. There might be others,

1544
01:21:34,573 --> 01:21:36,453
Speaker 22: but those are the four that have been idea.

1545
01:21:36,613 --> 01:21:39,373
Speaker 3: What funny because you sort of think, like, what is

1546
01:21:39,453 --> 01:21:42,173
Speaker 3: it that links those places? They're quite you know there,

1547
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:45,693
Speaker 3: you know there in some respects a long way from

1548
01:21:45,733 --> 01:21:49,853
Speaker 3: each other, and yet they all kind of shared this phenomenon.

1549
01:21:49,853 --> 01:21:51,653
Speaker 3: And there's been a few bit of research right into

1550
01:21:51,813 --> 01:21:55,333
Speaker 3: into what are the qualities that you know, or what

1551
01:21:55,453 --> 01:21:58,733
Speaker 3: are the lifestyles they're attributing to people living this life.

1552
01:21:59,373 --> 01:22:01,893
Speaker 22: Yeah, well there's I mean, there's probably genes is probably

1553
01:22:01,933 --> 01:22:04,693
Speaker 22: a factor, but you can't really do much about your genetics.

1554
01:22:04,773 --> 01:22:07,213
Speaker 22: You're born with that and that's it. And there's possibly

1555
01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:12,373
Speaker 22: some geographical features as well, But yeah, lifestyle is probably

1556
01:22:12,413 --> 01:22:14,733
Speaker 22: the main ones that people have focused on because it

1557
01:22:14,893 --> 01:22:20,853
Speaker 22: is somewhat in our in our realm of control, but

1558
01:22:21,413 --> 01:22:24,333
Speaker 22: important as we talk about these that people, I was

1559
01:22:24,333 --> 01:22:25,733
Speaker 22: a bit inclined to do this when I read them.

1560
01:22:25,733 --> 01:22:26,853
Speaker 22: I thought, I'll have a bit of that, and a

1561
01:22:26,933 --> 01:22:27,933
Speaker 22: bit of that and a bit of that, but I

1562
01:22:27,973 --> 01:22:30,053
Speaker 22: don't think I'll do that. And it was like, no, no,

1563
01:22:30,173 --> 01:22:32,813
Speaker 22: it's probably you need to have all of they've identified

1564
01:22:32,973 --> 01:22:35,293
Speaker 22: seven key factors, and you probably need to do all

1565
01:22:35,413 --> 01:22:36,173
Speaker 22: of these seven.

1566
01:22:36,373 --> 01:22:39,573
Speaker 3: I feel like going to be fun as yet there, Well,

1567
01:22:39,853 --> 01:22:40,213
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1568
01:22:40,333 --> 01:22:43,013
Speaker 22: I mean, the first one is as well known. It's

1569
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:45,173
Speaker 22: the it's the it's the diet, right and you know,

1570
01:22:45,293 --> 01:22:50,093
Speaker 22: the classic being the the classic being the Mediterranean diet,

1571
01:22:50,253 --> 01:22:53,973
Speaker 22: so lots of plant based stuff. Interestingly in this this

1572
01:22:54,053 --> 01:22:56,573
Speaker 22: piqued my interest. But interestingly, if you have lots of

1573
01:22:56,653 --> 01:22:59,813
Speaker 22: olive oil, a moderate amount of Greek coffee, and a

1574
01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:02,573
Speaker 22: moderate amount here we go of red wine, it was like, okay,

1575
01:23:03,293 --> 01:23:03,773
Speaker 22: I can do that.

1576
01:23:03,933 --> 01:23:06,213
Speaker 3: And it's the pressure one though, isn't it the rewind?

1577
01:23:07,173 --> 01:23:08,733
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.

1578
01:23:08,973 --> 01:23:09,013
Speaker 10: So.

1579
01:23:09,853 --> 01:23:12,893
Speaker 22: Another interesting fact about eating, though, was not only the diet,

1580
01:23:13,013 --> 01:23:15,293
Speaker 22: but it was that the way that you eat, and

1581
01:23:15,413 --> 01:23:18,093
Speaker 22: this idea that you stop eating when you're about eighty

1582
01:23:18,133 --> 01:23:21,493
Speaker 22: percent full, so you don't eat sort of full as

1583
01:23:21,533 --> 01:23:23,773
Speaker 22: a ball you kind of go no, no, I'm pretty

1584
01:23:23,853 --> 01:23:26,453
Speaker 22: much done, I think. So that is sort of and

1585
01:23:27,053 --> 01:23:29,453
Speaker 22: not quite sure what the magic is there, but that

1586
01:23:29,613 --> 01:23:31,533
Speaker 22: seems to be a part or it seems to be

1587
01:23:31,573 --> 01:23:33,253
Speaker 22: a factor that links everything in see.

1588
01:23:33,293 --> 01:23:35,293
Speaker 3: I find that that's the hard part of it for me.

1589
01:23:35,853 --> 01:23:38,613
Speaker 3: I can I'm my ethos with food, and I've gone

1590
01:23:38,613 --> 01:23:40,293
Speaker 3: on and on about this over the years, is that

1591
01:23:40,533 --> 01:23:44,333
Speaker 3: I don't mind eating I mean, I meat, and I

1592
01:23:44,613 --> 01:23:46,933
Speaker 3: love eating sugar. I've got a real sweet tooth. But

1593
01:23:47,053 --> 01:23:48,773
Speaker 3: my thing is just not wanting to eat too much

1594
01:23:48,853 --> 01:23:53,413
Speaker 3: processed food. So I always prefer to eat like a

1595
01:23:53,573 --> 01:23:56,973
Speaker 3: slice or a nice piece of cake that I've picked

1596
01:23:57,053 --> 01:24:01,373
Speaker 3: up in a fancy cafe as opposed to eating a

1597
01:24:01,453 --> 01:24:04,493
Speaker 3: bag of lollies or a thing of chocolate or cereal

1598
01:24:04,653 --> 01:24:07,453
Speaker 3: or something like that. You know, yeah, yeah, but but

1599
01:24:07,773 --> 01:24:10,493
Speaker 3: but but I will eat until I'm one hundred and fifteen,

1600
01:24:13,253 --> 01:24:17,373
Speaker 3: that might be yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, So the diet's

1601
01:24:17,373 --> 01:24:17,973
Speaker 3: an obvious one.

1602
01:24:18,013 --> 01:24:20,933
Speaker 22: What else, Yeah, eat healthy, move naturally, they call it,

1603
01:24:21,093 --> 01:24:23,733
Speaker 22: So keep up physical activity, but do it in just

1604
01:24:23,893 --> 01:24:29,413
Speaker 22: a natural way. So walking, gardening, just having having movement

1605
01:24:29,493 --> 01:24:34,093
Speaker 22: and physical activity as part of your natural normal days.

1606
01:24:34,173 --> 01:24:36,493
Speaker 22: So this isn't sort of going to the gym and

1607
01:24:36,573 --> 01:24:38,533
Speaker 22: doing like cross sessions in the gym.

1608
01:24:38,693 --> 01:24:39,933
Speaker 3: Yeah right, that's interesting.

1609
01:24:40,893 --> 01:24:43,253
Speaker 22: So it's just built. I think it's that lifestyle building

1610
01:24:43,333 --> 01:24:46,693
Speaker 22: it in that it becomes you know, you're kind of active,

1611
01:24:46,813 --> 01:24:47,933
Speaker 22: but naturally active.

1612
01:24:48,493 --> 01:24:51,493
Speaker 3: That is that is really interesting Okay, see, I'm an

1613
01:24:51,773 --> 01:24:56,533
Speaker 3: enthusiastic exerciser most of the time, but being in my

1614
01:24:56,653 --> 01:24:59,733
Speaker 3: late thirties now I've got like quite developed arthritis in

1615
01:24:59,773 --> 01:25:02,493
Speaker 3: my hip, like it's a real problem. Yeah, and so

1616
01:25:02,573 --> 01:25:04,613
Speaker 3: I can see that, and part of that will have

1617
01:25:04,653 --> 01:25:06,773
Speaker 3: been the way I have been exercising, you know, And

1618
01:25:08,573 --> 01:25:11,133
Speaker 3: you can see how that will ultimately lead to me

1619
01:25:11,973 --> 01:25:15,333
Speaker 3: being less active in the future. Maybe a factually I've

1620
01:25:15,373 --> 01:25:17,773
Speaker 3: been a little bit more chill over there and just

1621
01:25:18,293 --> 01:25:20,413
Speaker 3: done a bit more walking instead of running or whatever else,

1622
01:25:20,453 --> 01:25:23,413
Speaker 3: but of guarding than actually wear and tear might not be.

1623
01:25:23,453 --> 01:25:25,253
Speaker 22: Quite good point.

1624
01:25:25,653 --> 01:25:28,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, So you're not supposed to smoke, there's

1625
01:25:28,533 --> 01:25:29,093
Speaker 3: a big surprise.

1626
01:25:29,293 --> 01:25:32,773
Speaker 22: No, don't smoke and reduce stress, which you know, and

1627
01:25:33,333 --> 01:25:35,653
Speaker 22: I took lots in the past about reducing stress. So

1628
01:25:36,173 --> 01:25:38,093
Speaker 22: those are two sort of easy ones. Don't smoke and

1629
01:25:38,173 --> 01:25:39,013
Speaker 22: reduce A.

1630
01:25:39,013 --> 01:25:40,933
Speaker 3: Lot of people, of course, who still smoke, rely on

1631
01:25:40,973 --> 01:25:42,213
Speaker 3: smoking to reduce their stress.

1632
01:25:42,813 --> 01:25:50,653
Speaker 22: So huff sleeping. So the importance of sleeping well, and

1633
01:25:51,773 --> 01:25:55,213
Speaker 22: the way the researcher has defined this is is sleeping

1634
01:25:55,693 --> 01:25:59,133
Speaker 22: getting your kind of your sleep patterns or your circadian

1635
01:25:59,213 --> 01:26:02,893
Speaker 22: rhythms sort of in sync with the day, so broadly

1636
01:26:02,973 --> 01:26:06,013
Speaker 22: sort of speaking, you know, going to bed when it's

1637
01:26:06,453 --> 01:26:08,853
Speaker 22: can waking up when it's light, if you know. So

1638
01:26:09,133 --> 01:26:12,293
Speaker 22: so not too much, I mean, there's obviously you can

1639
01:26:12,293 --> 01:26:14,493
Speaker 22: stray a little bit from that and not too religious

1640
01:26:14,493 --> 01:26:16,813
Speaker 22: about it. But but yeah, the idea about your your

1641
01:26:16,933 --> 01:26:19,613
Speaker 22: your circadian rhythms are in sync with the seasons of

1642
01:26:19,693 --> 01:26:22,253
Speaker 22: the year. And here's another one that I really like too.

1643
01:26:22,573 --> 01:26:26,893
Speaker 22: Napping in the middle of the day is very helpful, right,

1644
01:26:27,013 --> 01:26:28,333
Speaker 22: so if you can have a nap in the day,

1645
01:26:28,453 --> 01:26:31,053
Speaker 22: you know that sort of half hour, yes, the short one,

1646
01:26:31,853 --> 01:26:33,973
Speaker 22: a little shit, yeah, yeah, just a nice short one

1647
01:26:34,053 --> 01:26:37,893
Speaker 22: that that's that. That seems to be a factor as well,

1648
01:26:37,933 --> 01:26:39,733
Speaker 22: which is I thought, oh yeah, no, I can definitely

1649
01:26:39,733 --> 01:26:41,053
Speaker 22: snap in the middle other day. That's good.

1650
01:26:41,173 --> 01:26:45,573
Speaker 3: And then there are the kind of social slash psychological edestions,

1651
01:26:45,613 --> 01:26:47,133
Speaker 3: And there are two different things here.

1652
01:26:47,893 --> 01:26:52,253
Speaker 22: Yeah, so so keeping family ties and connections so so

1653
01:26:52,493 --> 01:26:55,573
Speaker 22: keeping good so you know, and often these these blue

1654
01:26:55,653 --> 01:26:59,533
Speaker 22: zones there there's a perhaps a greater sense of community

1655
01:26:59,733 --> 01:27:04,733
Speaker 22: and connection. So the idea is that keeping up those

1656
01:27:04,853 --> 01:27:08,693
Speaker 22: social connections actually help combat loneliness and depression. And we

1657
01:27:08,813 --> 01:27:13,373
Speaker 22: know that loneliness. There's been some other studies around loneliness

1658
01:27:13,453 --> 01:27:17,093
Speaker 22: that shows that can reduce your life expectancy to the

1659
01:27:17,133 --> 01:27:20,093
Speaker 22: same level as if you were smoking something like ten

1660
01:27:20,133 --> 01:27:20,693
Speaker 22: cigarettes to.

1661
01:27:20,693 --> 01:27:21,493
Speaker 2: Day or something like that.

1662
01:27:22,413 --> 01:27:26,213
Speaker 22: So loneliness and it's amazing, isn't it. It's and I

1663
01:27:26,293 --> 01:27:29,733
Speaker 22: think it's something that we get more of in modern culture,

1664
01:27:29,773 --> 01:27:32,333
Speaker 22: although we are more perhaps we're more connected than ever

1665
01:27:32,413 --> 01:27:34,773
Speaker 22: I think. Yeah, I argue there's certainly been huge rates

1666
01:27:34,813 --> 01:27:37,493
Speaker 22: of loneliness around the country and around the world, really

1667
01:27:37,533 --> 01:27:38,893
Speaker 22: Western world too, particularly so.

1668
01:27:39,133 --> 01:27:42,693
Speaker 3: And then the final recommendation is, well, it's sort of

1669
01:27:42,773 --> 01:27:43,853
Speaker 3: almost theological.

1670
01:27:44,533 --> 01:27:47,373
Speaker 22: It is, Yeah, you believe in something bigger than yourself.

1671
01:27:49,093 --> 01:27:51,973
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to ask does it means purpose? It's

1672
01:27:52,013 --> 01:27:53,253
Speaker 3: like that, Yeah, I have a purpose?

1673
01:27:53,453 --> 01:27:57,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, that's right. So what's your life worth living?

1674
01:27:57,413 --> 01:28:00,013
Speaker 22: Is another way of thinking about that, or in the

1675
01:28:00,173 --> 01:28:03,653
Speaker 22: sense of being part of the bigger thing. Yeah, So

1676
01:28:04,173 --> 01:28:07,333
Speaker 22: lots of research shows that people with what's called religiosity,

1677
01:28:07,453 --> 01:28:09,413
Speaker 22: so that sense of I believe in something bigger than

1678
01:28:09,453 --> 01:28:12,813
Speaker 22: I and I'm involved in some daily or regular practices

1679
01:28:12,933 --> 01:28:17,533
Speaker 22: or rituals around my faith or around spirituality, that that

1680
01:28:17,933 --> 01:28:20,213
Speaker 22: there's lots of evidence to show that that helps with

1681
01:28:20,333 --> 01:28:23,133
Speaker 22: people's well being and happiness, and so that's another seems

1682
01:28:23,133 --> 01:28:25,213
Speaker 22: to be another key factor. Again, it doesn't have to

1683
01:28:25,293 --> 01:28:28,493
Speaker 22: be believing in God or a god, but it's that

1684
01:28:28,653 --> 01:28:30,973
Speaker 22: sense that I am part of a bigger purpose or

1685
01:28:31,413 --> 01:28:34,853
Speaker 22: something bigger than me. So yeah, if you do all

1686
01:28:34,893 --> 01:28:38,013
Speaker 22: those seven and you've got reasonable genes, then you know

1687
01:28:38,493 --> 01:28:40,653
Speaker 22: you might be pushing well into the nineties with any.

1688
01:28:40,773 --> 01:28:44,093
Speaker 3: Giving yourself the best possibility, anyway, the best chance. I reckon,

1689
01:28:44,133 --> 01:28:47,773
Speaker 3: I'm in about four. I reckon. There are a few

1690
01:28:47,933 --> 01:28:51,293
Speaker 3: like half measures and quarter measures in there, maybe four

1691
01:28:51,373 --> 01:28:52,253
Speaker 3: four and a half, I reckon.

1692
01:28:52,293 --> 01:28:54,373
Speaker 22: It's not Yeah, I think I'm about the same. Yes,

1693
01:28:54,413 --> 01:28:55,933
Speaker 22: you're right if you sort of, if.

1694
01:28:55,853 --> 01:28:58,893
Speaker 3: You really do think you'll be improved. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1695
01:28:59,253 --> 01:29:01,373
Speaker 3: very good. Hey, thanks to that's great. Yeah, I really

1696
01:29:01,413 --> 01:29:04,293
Speaker 3: appreciate that. Google Southerland from Umbrella well Being. We'll make

1697
01:29:04,333 --> 01:29:07,613
Speaker 3: sure we put these seven principles for Longer Life up

1698
01:29:07,693 --> 01:29:10,733
Speaker 3: on the news Talks ZEDB website before midday. We've got

1699
01:29:10,773 --> 01:29:14,293
Speaker 3: that new music for you from FBT. They're this trio

1700
01:29:14,493 --> 01:29:17,373
Speaker 3: from Melbourne. They've recorded their first album, actually recorded it

1701
01:29:17,453 --> 01:29:20,093
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, and they've got really kind of beautiful

1702
01:29:20,773 --> 01:29:24,093
Speaker 3: a beautiful, somewhat unique, folky sound, great sense of humor

1703
01:29:24,093 --> 01:29:25,133
Speaker 3: as well. So we're going to tell you a bit

1704
01:29:25,133 --> 01:29:27,333
Speaker 3: about the band, play some of new music before mid

1705
01:29:27,413 --> 01:29:29,693
Speaker 3: Day to Day. Next up, though, our travel correspondents taking

1706
01:29:29,773 --> 01:29:32,813
Speaker 3: us to Liverpool in the UK eighteen past eleven, non

1707
01:29:32,893 --> 01:29:35,653
Speaker 3: Newstalks EDB travel.

1708
01:29:35,413 --> 01:29:38,813
Speaker 2: With winni Wo tours. Where the World Is Yours book now.

1709
01:29:39,093 --> 01:29:41,093
Speaker 3: Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent.

1710
01:29:41,133 --> 01:29:44,053
Speaker 8: More dinner, Good morning Jack.

1711
01:29:44,133 --> 01:29:46,133
Speaker 2: Now you've got to shout out in Christ Judge.

1712
01:29:46,253 --> 01:29:50,413
Speaker 21: Last night I went to a night at the Conclave

1713
01:29:50,613 --> 01:29:54,693
Speaker 21: which featured Cardinal John Joe sort of like talking about

1714
01:29:55,333 --> 01:29:58,893
Speaker 21: all the workings a few months ago in Rome. And yes,

1715
01:29:59,373 --> 01:30:03,453
Speaker 21: and you're a fantastic interview with the cardinal. What was

1716
01:30:03,733 --> 01:30:06,133
Speaker 21: mentioned so night, bravo bravo.

1717
01:30:06,613 --> 01:30:06,813
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1718
01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:09,413
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I'll always you know, take being mentioned in

1719
01:30:09,453 --> 01:30:12,053
Speaker 3: that kind of and that kind of context to Mike,

1720
01:30:12,133 --> 01:30:14,973
Speaker 3: as you know, we can usually get mentioned for far

1721
01:30:15,093 --> 01:30:16,933
Speaker 3: worse things. But that's that's great. How was the night?

1722
01:30:18,053 --> 01:30:21,213
Speaker 21: Yeah, fabulous, just so down to worth. I think that's

1723
01:30:21,253 --> 01:30:23,813
Speaker 21: what really blew people away. You know, you'd think, oh, yeah,

1724
01:30:24,213 --> 01:30:28,693
Speaker 21: this might be some sort of frosty, stolid sort of presentation.

1725
01:30:29,533 --> 01:30:29,733
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1726
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:32,093
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was just so casual and real.

1727
01:30:32,173 --> 01:30:34,893
Speaker 3: It was just fantastic, wonderful, what a good thing to

1728
01:30:34,973 --> 01:30:36,733
Speaker 3: have done, and great that they're kind of getting out

1729
01:30:36,773 --> 01:30:38,733
Speaker 3: on the road and you know and explaining the stuff,

1730
01:30:39,053 --> 01:30:42,133
Speaker 3: giving people, you know, very making things as approachable as possible.

1731
01:30:42,933 --> 01:30:43,533
Speaker 8: How interesting.

1732
01:30:43,813 --> 01:30:47,013
Speaker 3: Hey, anyway, we're turning our attention to Liverpool in the UK.

1733
01:30:47,093 --> 01:30:49,733
Speaker 3: I've never been always wanted to go, so very much

1734
01:30:49,813 --> 01:30:52,333
Speaker 3: interested in your recommendations this morning, and you've been doing

1735
01:30:52,373 --> 01:30:54,453
Speaker 3: a bit of a kind of swing around the UK

1736
01:30:54,613 --> 01:30:57,293
Speaker 3: for us in the last few weeks. Why did Liverpool,

1737
01:30:57,413 --> 01:30:58,653
Speaker 3: of all places win you over?

1738
01:30:59,893 --> 01:31:03,653
Speaker 21: I reckon after London, Jack, this is England's best big city,

1739
01:31:03,973 --> 01:31:06,533
Speaker 21: and the reason being, first of all, you've got this

1740
01:31:06,773 --> 01:31:10,733
Speaker 21: really striking mishmash of older new architecture and it definitely

1741
01:31:10,773 --> 01:31:14,973
Speaker 21: feels like a city that's being regenerated. I love how

1742
01:31:15,053 --> 01:31:18,973
Speaker 21: Liverpool bears its soul, you know, it celebrates its pride,

1743
01:31:19,453 --> 01:31:24,253
Speaker 21: it expresses its pains in terms of history and terrible events.

1744
01:31:24,453 --> 01:31:29,933
Speaker 21: It just is a really charismatic sort of place, gritty, vital, grounded.

1745
01:31:30,133 --> 01:31:32,733
Speaker 21: And the thing that I noticed is you only actually

1746
01:31:32,773 --> 01:31:34,693
Speaker 21: have to spend a couple of days in Liverpool to

1747
01:31:34,733 --> 01:31:38,653
Speaker 21: get a real flavor of real urban England and that

1748
01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:41,813
Speaker 21: Scouse spirit, that really earthy assert of charm of the

1749
01:31:41,853 --> 01:31:42,653
Speaker 21: Liverpool Lands.

1750
01:31:42,773 --> 01:31:43,853
Speaker 2: Just an amazing place.

1751
01:31:44,133 --> 01:31:44,333
Speaker 8: Nice.

1752
01:31:44,493 --> 01:31:47,053
Speaker 3: So what are the headline sits on the Beatles parade?

1753
01:31:48,533 --> 01:31:53,373
Speaker 21: Yeah, well there's no avoiding Beetlemania as several museums. Then

1754
01:31:53,413 --> 01:31:55,453
Speaker 21: you've got the magical mystery tour to a swag of

1755
01:31:55,533 --> 01:31:58,573
Speaker 21: pilgrimage sites like the boyhood homes of John and Paul.

1756
01:31:59,053 --> 01:32:02,653
Speaker 21: I saw the eleanor Rigby Grave site in Saint Peter's

1757
01:32:02,733 --> 01:32:06,293
Speaker 21: churchyard and that's actually where McCartney and Lenin first met

1758
01:32:06,573 --> 01:32:10,013
Speaker 21: at a church fate. I saw Penny Lane where the

1759
01:32:10,093 --> 01:32:15,093
Speaker 21: street signs have to be regularly replaced. The Strawberry Field

1760
01:32:15,253 --> 01:32:18,533
Speaker 21: site that is so evocative now, these gardens, they were

1761
01:32:18,653 --> 01:32:21,613
Speaker 21: like a place of peace and refuge for a young

1762
01:32:21,773 --> 01:32:24,333
Speaker 21: John Lennon, and of course that gave rise to another

1763
01:32:24,453 --> 01:32:25,293
Speaker 21: Beatles anthem.

1764
01:32:25,413 --> 01:32:27,213
Speaker 2: So yeah, so much to explore.

1765
01:32:27,413 --> 01:32:31,173
Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, that's I'm embarrassed to say that naively. I

1766
01:32:31,613 --> 01:32:34,613
Speaker 3: thought that Strawberry Fields was written after the Strawberry Fields

1767
01:32:34,693 --> 01:32:36,853
Speaker 3: in Central Park.

1768
01:32:36,813 --> 01:32:38,373
Speaker 2: In New York, US.

1769
01:32:40,813 --> 01:32:44,973
Speaker 21: Front Yeah, so yeah, Strawberry Field was actually was given

1770
01:32:45,013 --> 01:32:47,653
Speaker 21: to the Salvation Army about a century ago in Liverpool,

1771
01:32:47,693 --> 01:32:51,693
Speaker 21: and it was like a place for destitute children, vulnerable children,

1772
01:32:52,013 --> 01:32:55,133
Speaker 21: and then the gardens were often like a playground for

1773
01:32:55,213 --> 01:32:57,253
Speaker 21: a lot of people living, a lot of kids living

1774
01:32:57,293 --> 01:32:58,813
Speaker 21: in Liverpool, including John Lennon.

1775
01:32:58,893 --> 01:33:01,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, very good. Oh nice. So where is the

1776
01:33:01,933 --> 01:33:03,533
Speaker 3: Cavin Club located?

1777
01:33:04,733 --> 01:33:08,613
Speaker 21: Yes, Matthew Street and it's amazing, Jack, I felt a

1778
01:33:08,693 --> 01:33:11,253
Speaker 21: bit like I did when I first went to Beal

1779
01:33:11,373 --> 01:33:15,933
Speaker 21: Street in Memphis. So it's this narrow bar lined street,

1780
01:33:16,173 --> 01:33:19,733
Speaker 21: Matthew Street, ground zero for Beatles fans. That's where the

1781
01:33:19,813 --> 01:33:23,933
Speaker 21: original Kevin Club was located. It's gone, but they have

1782
01:33:24,053 --> 01:33:26,533
Speaker 21: built a mock up of the historic night spot a

1783
01:33:26,613 --> 01:33:30,013
Speaker 21: few doors down from where it was originally located. The

1784
01:33:30,133 --> 01:33:33,613
Speaker 21: other cool thing right across from the club the Wall

1785
01:33:33,733 --> 01:33:39,093
Speaker 21: of Fame. Jerry Marsden created this and every brick represents

1786
01:33:39,173 --> 01:33:42,053
Speaker 21: an artist or band who played at the original Kevin Club.

1787
01:33:42,453 --> 01:33:45,333
Speaker 21: All the rebuilt club and my god, it's like a

1788
01:33:45,413 --> 01:33:50,333
Speaker 21: who's who of music. Royalty Adele, Susie Quatro, Oasis, Jim Morrison,

1789
01:33:50,813 --> 01:33:53,533
Speaker 21: you name them, they've been there. It's just incredible.

1790
01:33:53,653 --> 01:33:53,853
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1791
01:33:53,973 --> 01:33:57,573
Speaker 3: Nice Royal Albert Dock has been transformed for tourists as well.

1792
01:33:57,613 --> 01:33:58,533
Speaker 3: What's worth exploring.

1793
01:33:59,853 --> 01:34:03,853
Speaker 21: Yeah, those mighty red brick warehouses are now mainly used

1794
01:34:03,893 --> 01:34:07,653
Speaker 21: as museum spaces, and they've got some credible museums. The

1795
01:34:07,733 --> 01:34:10,893
Speaker 21: Maritime Museum, it dives deep into eight hundred years of

1796
01:34:10,973 --> 01:34:16,213
Speaker 21: proud seafaring history, and then nearby the International Slavery Museum,

1797
01:34:16,373 --> 01:34:20,533
Speaker 21: which does not flinch from fronting up to Liverpool's role

1798
01:34:20,573 --> 01:34:23,733
Speaker 21: in the African slave trade. I took this awesome stroll

1799
01:34:23,773 --> 01:34:27,573
Speaker 21: along the Harborfront, gazing across the Mersey all the way

1800
01:34:27,653 --> 01:34:30,253
Speaker 21: to peer a Head, which is home to that creamy

1801
01:34:30,333 --> 01:34:34,973
Speaker 21: cluster of Edwardian buildings known as the Three Graces in Liverpool.

1802
01:34:35,013 --> 01:34:38,013
Speaker 21: In the middle one is the original world headquarters for

1803
01:34:38,173 --> 01:34:41,133
Speaker 21: Qunard Line. So yeah, there is just some stunning history

1804
01:34:41,213 --> 01:34:41,733
Speaker 21: to soak up.

1805
01:34:41,893 --> 01:34:44,013
Speaker 3: Did you come across any New Zealand connections.

1806
01:34:45,733 --> 01:34:48,133
Speaker 21: Yeah, we'll go back to the nineteenth and twentieth century

1807
01:34:48,173 --> 01:34:51,093
Speaker 21: and Liverpool of course was the major gateway for British

1808
01:34:51,213 --> 01:34:54,373
Speaker 21: and Irish immigrants, so heading off to begin new lives

1809
01:34:54,413 --> 01:34:57,133
Speaker 21: in the New World, including New Zealand, and just to

1810
01:34:57,213 --> 01:34:59,653
Speaker 21: block back from the Harbor Front, I actually spotted this

1811
01:35:00,493 --> 01:35:05,133
Speaker 21: sullen old stone building emblazoned with New Zealand House on

1812
01:35:05,293 --> 01:35:08,213
Speaker 21: its exterior. Back in the day, its core business was

1813
01:35:08,653 --> 01:35:13,173
Speaker 21: migration and meat. Today, Jack, it is still a meat

1814
01:35:13,213 --> 01:35:16,373
Speaker 21: market of swords. Hooters has taken up residents on the

1815
01:35:16,413 --> 01:35:17,013
Speaker 21: ground floor.

1816
01:35:18,333 --> 01:35:21,013
Speaker 3: I just had this moment of panic as I wondered

1817
01:35:21,053 --> 01:35:24,053
Speaker 3: where you were going to go with that. Yeah, Oh,

1818
01:35:24,173 --> 01:35:28,573
Speaker 3: that's so funny, how incredible? Yeah, and so what is

1819
01:35:28,653 --> 01:35:31,933
Speaker 3: it about the churches in Liverpool that make them so

1820
01:35:32,053 --> 01:35:32,933
Speaker 3: popular with visitors?

1821
01:35:33,493 --> 01:35:36,733
Speaker 21: Yeah, I've got two showstoppers. First of all, the Anglican

1822
01:35:36,813 --> 01:35:40,373
Speaker 21: Cathedral is the UK's biggest religious building. It's a behemoth

1823
01:35:40,693 --> 01:35:43,533
Speaker 21: with the heaviest and highest bells in the world. And

1824
01:35:43,653 --> 01:35:47,053
Speaker 21: the chap who designed it, Sajia Scott, also created Britain's

1825
01:35:47,173 --> 01:35:51,773
Speaker 21: iconic red telephone box and his grandfather Kiwi connection Here

1826
01:35:52,013 --> 01:35:57,093
Speaker 21: designed christ Church Cathedral. But even more compelling, Jack, Saint

1827
01:35:57,213 --> 01:36:00,573
Speaker 21: Luke's bombed out Church. That's what it's called, and that's

1828
01:36:00,653 --> 01:36:04,173
Speaker 21: exactly what you see. It was decapitated during the Blatz

1829
01:36:04,613 --> 01:36:07,573
Speaker 21: and it's been left hollowed out and roofless ever since.

1830
01:36:07,653 --> 01:36:10,773
Speaker 21: So it's now this opening a performance space, which is

1831
01:36:10,853 --> 01:36:14,653
Speaker 21: a stunning spot to catch some local culture. They have

1832
01:36:14,853 --> 01:36:17,133
Speaker 21: all sorts of things on there all the time.

1833
01:36:17,333 --> 01:36:21,373
Speaker 3: Oh nice, Well, any memorable hospitality highlights for you?

1834
01:36:22,733 --> 01:36:28,373
Speaker 21: Well, aside from footy at Anfield, an unrivaled cultural experience

1835
01:36:28,493 --> 01:36:30,853
Speaker 21: with the locals is to take a pub crawl in

1836
01:36:30,973 --> 01:36:34,413
Speaker 21: the stately streets of the Georgian Quarter and it's amazing.

1837
01:36:34,493 --> 01:36:38,573
Speaker 21: Liverpool has a massive Irish population, so the vibe is

1838
01:36:38,773 --> 01:36:42,573
Speaker 21: so similar to being in Dublin's Temple Bar district. The

1839
01:36:42,973 --> 01:36:45,493
Speaker 21: pub to end all pubs, I'd have to say, is

1840
01:36:45,533 --> 01:36:48,893
Speaker 21: a place called the Philharmonic Dining Rooms. I couldn't believe

1841
01:36:49,013 --> 01:36:51,973
Speaker 21: this place. It would be the most palatial pub I

1842
01:36:52,093 --> 01:36:56,333
Speaker 21: have ever encountered. And the men's lose. The urinals are

1843
01:36:56,373 --> 01:36:57,533
Speaker 21: made of pink marble.

1844
01:36:57,653 --> 01:37:01,453
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's ridiculous. I how good though, the

1845
01:37:01,493 --> 01:37:03,613
Speaker 3: problem is that you're sort of inviting people to start

1846
01:37:03,653 --> 01:37:05,373
Speaker 3: photographing them, Neil, and no one needs that.

1847
01:37:06,693 --> 01:37:07,173
Speaker 21: That's stright.

1848
01:37:07,413 --> 01:37:07,613
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1849
01:37:07,973 --> 01:37:11,173
Speaker 3: So what would it be like? Half an hour from Manchester?

1850
01:37:12,173 --> 01:37:13,533
Speaker 8: Would would that right?

1851
01:37:13,653 --> 01:37:16,173
Speaker 3: Half an hour? Twenty minutes? Yeah, it's pretty close yet

1852
01:37:16,213 --> 01:37:16,733
Speaker 3: down the road.

1853
01:37:16,613 --> 01:37:19,693
Speaker 21: Pretty much, Yeah, graber Ferry across the Mosey Jet.

1854
01:37:19,613 --> 01:37:21,773
Speaker 3: Yeah of course, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, given I'm a

1855
01:37:21,813 --> 01:37:23,173
Speaker 3: Liverpool fan. I want to make sure I'm on the

1856
01:37:23,253 --> 01:37:26,533
Speaker 3: right side of it. Hey, thank you, that sounds it

1857
01:37:26,573 --> 01:37:29,013
Speaker 3: sounds fantastic. I'm digging the envious. Like I said, some

1858
01:37:29,213 --> 01:37:31,933
Speaker 3: top tips there, Mike. We'll make sure that all Mike's

1859
01:37:31,973 --> 01:37:36,093
Speaker 3: advice for tripping through Liverpool is up on the News Talks.

1860
01:37:36,133 --> 01:37:39,213
Speaker 3: He'd be website before midday. That new music from FBT

1861
01:37:39,733 --> 01:37:42,173
Speaker 3: netfolk trio from Australia for you. Plus we've got your

1862
01:37:42,213 --> 01:37:45,013
Speaker 3: book picks for this weekend very shortly. Right now, it's

1863
01:37:45,053 --> 01:37:46,293
Speaker 3: twenty eight past eleven.

1864
01:37:50,653 --> 01:37:54,573
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team

1865
01:37:55,053 --> 01:37:56,173
Speaker 1: on News Talks'd be.

1866
01:38:13,253 --> 01:38:16,013
Speaker 3: Twenty eight minutes to twelve on news Talk ZB. Well,

1867
01:38:16,093 --> 01:38:20,133
Speaker 3: the MPC season has gone off to a pretty exciting start.

1868
01:38:20,173 --> 01:38:22,973
Speaker 3: What was at one point in it White Cuttle over Auckland,

1869
01:38:23,013 --> 01:38:26,653
Speaker 3: the other day one of the two beating North Harbor

1870
01:38:26,733 --> 01:38:29,813
Speaker 3: a little bit more comfortably yesterday. Some games this afternoon,

1871
01:38:29,893 --> 01:38:33,053
Speaker 3: of course. Jason Pine is on Weekend Sport, counting down

1872
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:35,973
Speaker 3: to kick off today two pm. Wellington and the Old

1873
01:38:36,053 --> 01:38:38,493
Speaker 3: Folk Cannabury Kilder Party.

1874
01:38:39,253 --> 01:38:39,453
Speaker 7: Jack.

1875
01:38:40,093 --> 01:38:41,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been a good little start to the

1876
01:38:42,013 --> 01:38:45,053
Speaker 3: MPC season. Actually, how are you feeling about the place

1877
01:38:45,213 --> 01:38:47,053
Speaker 3: of the NPC this rugby season?

1878
01:38:47,293 --> 01:38:49,013
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, on the evidence of a couple of games,

1879
01:38:49,053 --> 01:38:51,653
Speaker 17: pretty good, yees starter well did at Thursday night the

1880
01:38:52,013 --> 01:38:56,613
Speaker 17: one point victory by Wacuto scoring twenty uswered points to

1881
01:38:56,653 --> 01:38:59,933
Speaker 17: get up and Leamasoppewanga scoring the try that.

1882
01:39:00,013 --> 01:39:01,453
Speaker 3: Aaron Crwden converted.

1883
01:39:01,933 --> 01:39:04,613
Speaker 17: I'd turn him out the hands of time, mate, right

1884
01:39:04,973 --> 01:39:06,973
Speaker 17: in the last like years, you say, were two getting

1885
01:39:06,973 --> 01:39:08,853
Speaker 17: the one. Look, I feel good about it. And this

1886
01:39:08,973 --> 01:39:11,293
Speaker 17: weekend has thrown up some really interesting games. There's a

1887
01:39:11,293 --> 01:39:14,573
Speaker 17: Shield challenge tonight, Taranaki putting it on the line, the

1888
01:39:14,693 --> 01:39:17,893
Speaker 17: challenge coming from the Northland Tunnyfah this afternoon and in

1889
01:39:17,973 --> 01:39:22,333
Speaker 17: the cargo as stag day Southland v Otago. They've sold

1890
01:39:22,373 --> 01:39:24,653
Speaker 17: five thousand tickets already for this game. It's apparently going

1891
01:39:24,693 --> 01:39:26,533
Speaker 17: to be jumping down there. And if you want to

1892
01:39:26,573 --> 01:39:29,053
Speaker 17: buy a Southland jersey you can't. There aren't any left.

1893
01:39:29,053 --> 01:39:31,573
Speaker 17: They're all sold out. So yeah, so that'll be a

1894
01:39:31,613 --> 01:39:33,653
Speaker 17: good game. And then as you say, Wellington v Canterbury,

1895
01:39:33,693 --> 01:39:36,813
Speaker 17: whenever those two teams meet in any sport, really there's

1896
01:39:36,813 --> 01:39:39,013
Speaker 17: always a bit of feelings. So look, I hope that

1897
01:39:39,053 --> 01:39:41,213
Speaker 17: it continues, and the NPC has kind of been a

1898
01:39:41,253 --> 01:39:44,093
Speaker 17: bit of a punching bag for people who like to

1899
01:39:44,173 --> 01:39:47,453
Speaker 17: point to, you know, slightly lower attendances than we would

1900
01:39:47,533 --> 01:39:49,773
Speaker 17: like to see. But the fact of the matter is

1901
01:39:49,893 --> 01:39:53,253
Speaker 17: jack it actually, you know, sign me up because I

1902
01:39:53,453 --> 01:39:56,533
Speaker 17: just love watching you know, the blend of experienced players

1903
01:39:56,573 --> 01:39:59,413
Speaker 17: like we've mentioned super rugby players, but also guys we've

1904
01:39:59,533 --> 01:40:02,053
Speaker 17: never heard of coming in and making a name for

1905
01:40:02,093 --> 01:40:05,373
Speaker 17: themselves and earning themselves super ragby contracts. So now I'll

1906
01:40:05,373 --> 01:40:07,253
Speaker 17: always have eyes on it. I know there's some work

1907
01:40:07,333 --> 01:40:09,413
Speaker 17: to do, but I'm enjoying what I'm seeing.

1908
01:40:09,253 --> 01:40:11,333
Speaker 3: So yeah, very good. They probably weren't saying the same

1909
01:40:11,613 --> 01:40:13,613
Speaker 3: in the last five minutes or so of that Warriores

1910
01:40:13,653 --> 01:40:14,773
Speaker 3: Dolphins game last night.

1911
01:40:15,093 --> 01:40:17,413
Speaker 17: I was not saying that. No, I was not enjoying

1912
01:40:17,493 --> 01:40:19,053
Speaker 17: what I was seeing. It just felt, I don't know,

1913
01:40:20,133 --> 01:40:21,773
Speaker 17: I just felt as they went back and forth in

1914
01:40:21,813 --> 01:40:24,093
Speaker 17: the last moment or so, the Dolphins as though they

1915
01:40:24,133 --> 01:40:25,493
Speaker 17: were going to find a way, even though they were

1916
01:40:25,533 --> 01:40:27,693
Speaker 17: down to twelve at that point as well, it just

1917
01:40:27,773 --> 01:40:30,053
Speaker 17: looked as though there was fatigue setting in and just

1918
01:40:30,093 --> 01:40:32,053
Speaker 17: a bit of caution. Didn't want to come out of

1919
01:40:32,093 --> 01:40:35,413
Speaker 17: the line the Warriors. Anyway, we'll break it down after midday.

1920
01:40:35,693 --> 01:40:37,373
Speaker 17: People will have a lot to say, Look what eight

1921
01:40:37,733 --> 01:40:41,293
Speaker 17: front liners out, Jack. It's actually not no bad performance,

1922
01:40:41,413 --> 01:40:43,293
Speaker 17: but you come away with nothing and all of a

1923
01:40:43,333 --> 01:40:46,013
Speaker 17: sudden you look behind you at the chasing pack for

1924
01:40:46,133 --> 01:40:48,933
Speaker 17: that top four and the Warriors run the risk now

1925
01:40:49,013 --> 01:40:51,093
Speaker 17: of being swallowed up and look, there's still a top

1926
01:40:51,133 --> 01:40:53,853
Speaker 17: eight proposition. Of course they are, but having been in

1927
01:40:53,933 --> 01:40:56,813
Speaker 17: the top four since round six, yeah, it would just

1928
01:40:56,893 --> 01:40:58,613
Speaker 17: be such a shame for them to drop out right

1929
01:40:58,653 --> 01:41:00,293
Speaker 17: at the last. But you know, five games to go,

1930
01:41:00,413 --> 01:41:01,013
Speaker 17: let's see how long.

1931
01:41:01,173 --> 01:41:02,613
Speaker 3: It's just a classic thing though. You just got to

1932
01:41:02,653 --> 01:41:06,093
Speaker 3: close out games. Yeah, it's what distinguishes like champion teams

1933
01:41:06,093 --> 01:41:09,373
Speaker 3: from ten teams that falter. Come the business end of

1934
01:41:09,373 --> 01:41:12,373
Speaker 3: the scene. You've got to close these opportunities out, you know,

1935
01:41:12,453 --> 01:41:14,973
Speaker 3: especially when your head like that. Speaking of closing things out,

1936
01:41:15,213 --> 01:41:20,133
Speaker 3: the black Caps Zimbabwe in three days a comprehensive victory

1937
01:41:20,173 --> 01:41:21,333
Speaker 3: in bull of way to say the least.

1938
01:41:21,733 --> 01:41:21,973
Speaker 10: It was.

1939
01:41:22,013 --> 01:41:24,133
Speaker 17: Indeed, Matt Henry, what a player he's known for us.

1940
01:41:24,133 --> 01:41:27,373
Speaker 17: So she has oh yes, nine for ninety in this

1941
01:41:27,493 --> 01:41:29,573
Speaker 17: test match. I mean they're brilliant figures and when you

1942
01:41:29,613 --> 01:41:32,053
Speaker 17: consider he had to wait, you know, rightly so behind

1943
01:41:32,213 --> 01:41:35,373
Speaker 17: soau they bolt and Wagner this sort of back end

1944
01:41:35,413 --> 01:41:37,333
Speaker 17: of his career and let's hope it's got a few

1945
01:41:37,373 --> 01:41:39,813
Speaker 17: more years to run from Matt Henry. He is the

1946
01:41:39,973 --> 01:41:43,333
Speaker 17: spearhead of our attack in all formats now and yeah,

1947
01:41:43,453 --> 01:41:47,013
Speaker 17: just just tremendous. I love love seeing Mitchell Santner come

1948
01:41:47,133 --> 01:41:49,653
Speaker 17: and captain the side pick up a four fer this morning.

1949
01:41:49,893 --> 01:41:51,373
Speaker 17: Was that long ago that we were saying, you know what,

1950
01:41:51,693 --> 01:41:55,173
Speaker 17: Mitchell center tremendous white ball cricketer, won't play any more

1951
01:41:55,213 --> 01:41:57,493
Speaker 17: Test matches for us, and he got that thirteen wicket

1952
01:41:57,573 --> 01:42:00,653
Speaker 17: bag or whatever it was in fourteen wickets against another

1953
01:42:00,693 --> 01:42:04,813
Speaker 17: four this one okay, talking about late lake carea renaissances, Yeah,

1954
01:42:05,333 --> 01:42:07,253
Speaker 17: I love to see it. So yeah, probably talks on

1955
01:42:07,293 --> 01:42:09,533
Speaker 17: more cricket tomorrow, but a rugby this afternoon and rugby

1956
01:42:09,653 --> 01:42:12,253
Speaker 17: league as well. Rod Penny's on the show too, after

1957
01:42:12,333 --> 01:42:16,093
Speaker 17: one freshly inked extension for the Crusader's head coach. I

1958
01:42:16,213 --> 01:42:18,893
Speaker 17: wonder whether there might have been a Thoughtner's mind that

1959
01:42:18,933 --> 01:42:21,093
Speaker 17: he'd go out on top. But he's not doing that.

1960
01:42:21,493 --> 01:42:23,533
Speaker 17: He may well still do that of course of the Crusader.

1961
01:42:23,653 --> 01:42:25,853
Speaker 17: Yes again next year, but Rob Peter's going to guard

1962
01:42:25,893 --> 01:42:27,053
Speaker 17: to us after one o'clock as well.

1963
01:42:27,133 --> 01:42:28,893
Speaker 3: I look forward to that. Thank you, Sir. Jason Pine

1964
01:42:28,973 --> 01:42:31,773
Speaker 3: with us for a weekend sport right after the midday news.

1965
01:42:31,813 --> 01:42:34,973
Speaker 3: We've got that FBT trio, that folk trio from Australia

1966
01:42:35,573 --> 01:42:37,813
Speaker 3: and their brand new album, their first album, so we're

1967
01:42:37,813 --> 01:42:39,853
Speaker 3: going to play a couple of songs from that very shortly.

1968
01:42:39,933 --> 01:42:42,333
Speaker 3: Next up, though, if you're looking for something good to

1969
01:42:42,573 --> 01:42:45,253
Speaker 3: curl up and read this weekend, our book reviewer has

1970
01:42:45,333 --> 01:42:46,773
Speaker 3: her two recommendations for.

1971
01:42:46,853 --> 01:42:51,013
Speaker 1: Us Saturday Morning with Jack Team Full Show podcast on

1972
01:42:51,293 --> 01:42:53,453
Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.

1973
01:42:53,493 --> 01:42:56,013
Speaker 3: That'd be twenty one to twelve on new Talks. He'd

1974
01:42:56,053 --> 01:42:58,413
Speaker 3: be Katherine Rains as our book reviewer. She gives us

1975
01:42:58,493 --> 01:43:02,253
Speaker 3: two top recommendations every weekend, and she's with usnaw hey, Catherine,

1976
01:43:02,853 --> 01:43:05,853
Speaker 3: good morning Jack. Let's start off with your first book

1977
01:43:05,893 --> 01:43:09,013
Speaker 3: for this week, tell us about Summer Island by Kristin Hannah.

1978
01:43:09,813 --> 01:43:12,133
Speaker 12: So this is the story of Nora and her thirty

1979
01:43:12,133 --> 01:43:14,453
Speaker 12: four year old daughter Ruby, and they're really at odds

1980
01:43:14,493 --> 01:43:17,853
Speaker 12: with each other. Nora left her husband years before and

1981
01:43:17,933 --> 01:43:20,533
Speaker 12: her teenage daughters as they were then, Ruby and Caroline,

1982
01:43:20,813 --> 01:43:23,373
Speaker 12: and she's now this famous talk show host who gives

1983
01:43:23,693 --> 01:43:27,053
Speaker 12: lots of advice to others. And Ruby herself is now

1984
01:43:27,093 --> 01:43:29,813
Speaker 12: a comedian and she deeply resents her mother, and a

1985
01:43:29,893 --> 01:43:32,213
Speaker 12: lot of her humor as a comedian is around her

1986
01:43:32,333 --> 01:43:34,893
Speaker 12: mum and those things that went on with her. And

1987
01:43:34,973 --> 01:43:36,573
Speaker 12: then all of a sudden, Laura gets caught in this

1988
01:43:36,733 --> 01:43:40,253
Speaker 12: public scandal, and Ruby's given the opportunity to write this

1989
01:43:40,453 --> 01:43:44,493
Speaker 12: talel book about her mother that will really almost guarantee

1990
01:43:44,573 --> 01:43:47,493
Speaker 12: to launch her career, and so she heads home to

1991
01:43:47,533 --> 01:43:50,413
Speaker 12: spend some time with Nora at their family summer home,

1992
01:43:50,853 --> 01:43:52,853
Speaker 12: and they start to revisit old memories and then she

1993
01:43:52,933 --> 01:43:56,213
Speaker 12: actually really starts to understand her mother's choices and will

1994
01:43:56,253 --> 01:43:58,733
Speaker 12: broadly understand some of the choices that she's made in life.

1995
01:43:59,533 --> 01:44:02,333
Speaker 12: And the book mainly focuses on the character of Ruby,

1996
01:44:02,413 --> 01:44:06,373
Speaker 12: and she's quite feisty and very vocal and occasionally compleat

1997
01:44:06,413 --> 01:44:10,133
Speaker 12: lately wrong in her assumptions, and she kind of slowly

1998
01:44:10,213 --> 01:44:13,573
Speaker 12: finds herself listening to her mother's real history and what

1999
01:44:13,733 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 12: happened in their lives and start to manage to find

2000
01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:18,933
Speaker 12: a connection with her mum and start to hear their

2001
01:44:18,973 --> 01:44:21,853
Speaker 12: relationship a little and let go of her resentment. And

2002
01:44:21,933 --> 01:44:24,733
Speaker 12: it's lots of messages about family and love and forgiveness

2003
01:44:24,773 --> 01:44:27,213
Speaker 12: and redemption and kind of shows how easy it is

2004
01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:30,773
Speaker 12: to judge someone else's choices until you know the complete story.

2005
01:44:31,093 --> 01:44:33,173
Speaker 12: Yeah good, Afternoon Sunday Afternoon read.

2006
01:44:33,293 --> 01:44:36,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. There's Summer Island by Kristin Hannah. You've

2007
01:44:36,373 --> 01:44:39,133
Speaker 3: also read Red Star Down by Dbie John.

2008
01:44:40,093 --> 01:44:44,093
Speaker 12: So this is a really gripping thriller and heads into

2009
01:44:44,173 --> 01:44:48,253
Speaker 12: the world of politics and espionage and deception and focuses

2010
01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:51,333
Speaker 12: on actually a period in very recent history. So it's

2011
01:44:51,413 --> 01:44:55,093
Speaker 12: loosely a bit set around real events, and so starts

2012
01:44:55,133 --> 01:44:59,093
Speaker 12: in twenty seventeen when President Trump first rose to power,

2013
01:44:59,653 --> 01:45:04,413
Speaker 12: and there's three protagonists involved. So there's Jenna, who's CIA officer,

2014
01:45:05,013 --> 01:45:08,333
Speaker 12: Losha who's a most go student who has the audacity

2015
01:45:08,453 --> 01:45:13,173
Speaker 12: to confront Vladimir Putin on live TV and completely incensors

2016
01:45:13,213 --> 01:45:16,253
Speaker 12: the Russian leader. And then there's Eric who's a North

2017
01:45:16,333 --> 01:45:20,613
Speaker 12: Korean spy spy and he has the air of President

2018
01:45:20,613 --> 01:45:23,733
Speaker 12: Trump almost he's the Special Advisor on East Asia and

2019
01:45:23,893 --> 01:45:27,173
Speaker 12: he's a very dangerous individual, and the story kicks off

2020
01:45:27,253 --> 01:45:30,013
Speaker 12: with a series of explosive global events. A Korean man

2021
01:45:30,173 --> 01:45:34,133
Speaker 12: is poisoned in Malaysia, a Russian intelligence officer is assassinated

2022
01:45:34,173 --> 01:45:37,013
Speaker 12: in Washington, and a real estate mogul becomes the forty

2023
01:45:37,053 --> 01:45:40,293
Speaker 12: fifth US president, And these kind of incidents set this

2024
01:45:40,413 --> 01:45:43,933
Speaker 12: stage for this conspiracy and global stability. And it has

2025
01:45:43,973 --> 01:45:47,373
Speaker 12: this very believable plot line and lots of different places

2026
01:45:47,453 --> 01:45:50,293
Speaker 12: in country settings, and this portrayal of world leaders who've

2027
01:45:50,293 --> 01:45:53,693
Speaker 12: got their own agendas and self serving, lots of great

2028
01:45:53,773 --> 01:45:57,613
Speaker 12: characters that are completely complex and believable, particularly those operatives

2029
01:45:57,813 --> 01:46:01,733
Speaker 12: navigating some very moral gray areas. And there's some great

2030
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:06,013
Speaker 12: moments in the story and lots of suspense, a tension,

2031
01:46:06,133 --> 01:46:08,613
Speaker 12: and really wants to make you know what happened next.

2032
01:46:09,133 --> 01:46:11,733
Speaker 12: And so if you're a fan of spy and espinage

2033
01:46:11,733 --> 01:46:13,853
Speaker 12: strou then I highly recommend this one.

2034
01:46:13,933 --> 01:46:16,573
Speaker 3: YEA, oh fantastic. That really does sound like a bit

2035
01:46:16,613 --> 01:46:18,533
Speaker 3: of me. Did you see is it? I think earlier

2036
01:46:18,573 --> 01:46:21,093
Speaker 3: this week or last week? Did you ever like Martin

2037
01:46:21,173 --> 01:46:25,013
Speaker 3: Cruz Smith's books? Yes, yeah, I was sad to I

2038
01:46:25,093 --> 01:46:27,493
Speaker 3: think he lived a pretty good life. I think he

2039
01:46:27,573 --> 01:46:29,813
Speaker 3: was in his late eighties, but I was I got

2040
01:46:29,893 --> 01:46:32,853
Speaker 3: kind of hooked on the arkad Renko stories years ago,

2041
01:46:32,933 --> 01:46:36,213
Speaker 3: speaking of you know, thrillers and mysteries set in Russia.

2042
01:46:36,933 --> 01:46:39,733
Speaker 3: You know I love those. Yeah, you know, Gawky Park

2043
01:46:39,813 --> 01:46:43,493
Speaker 3: and the myriad books that followed thereafter that he penned.

2044
01:46:43,933 --> 01:46:45,733
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was that was sad news. But this

2045
01:46:46,093 --> 01:46:47,693
Speaker 3: sounds like a bit of me as well. So that's

2046
01:46:47,733 --> 01:46:50,773
Speaker 3: Red Star Down by Dbie John. Summer Island by Kristin

2047
01:46:50,813 --> 01:46:55,053
Speaker 3: Hannah was Catherine's first book. Catherine, please don't talk to

2048
01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:58,013
Speaker 3: anyone else today. Go and get yourself five or six

2049
01:46:58,093 --> 01:47:01,173
Speaker 3: good lemons, get yourself some nice Manuka honey, brew yourself

2050
01:47:01,413 --> 01:47:03,053
Speaker 3: a nice wee hot drink, and curl up on the

2051
01:47:03,133 --> 01:47:06,373
Speaker 3: couch and we will catch again very soon. Those books

2052
01:47:06,493 --> 01:47:08,893
Speaker 3: we'll be on the News Talks website. And a couple

2053
01:47:08,933 --> 01:47:11,613
Speaker 3: of minutes, we've got that new music from FBT Folk

2054
01:47:11,733 --> 01:47:15,213
Speaker 3: Bitch Trio, a trio of folk musicians Adam Albourne. They

2055
01:47:15,293 --> 01:47:18,173
Speaker 3: recorded their first album in New Zealand and it sounds

2056
01:47:18,493 --> 01:47:21,293
Speaker 3: like a cracker inside.

2057
01:47:21,373 --> 01:47:24,453
Speaker 2: Scoop on them all you need to know. Saturday Morning

2058
01:47:24,653 --> 01:47:26,413
Speaker 2: with Jack Dame News Talks.

2059
01:47:26,453 --> 01:47:26,693
Speaker 10: It be.

2060
01:47:32,653 --> 01:47:32,933
Speaker 4: Next.

2061
01:47:44,253 --> 01:47:47,133
Speaker 16: Jna Good.

2062
01:47:52,933 --> 01:47:55,453
Speaker 10: J good.

2063
01:47:59,413 --> 01:48:04,333
Speaker 3: Oh that's harmony is a beautiful are they? That's f

2064
01:48:04,453 --> 01:48:09,533
Speaker 3: BT stands for Folk Bitch Trio. That song is called

2065
01:48:09,573 --> 01:48:12,493
Speaker 3: Hotel TV. They've got their brand new album out. It's

2066
01:48:12,533 --> 01:48:15,533
Speaker 3: called Now Would Be a Good Time. It was recorded

2067
01:48:15,653 --> 01:48:18,453
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. Now music viewa style Clifford's been listening.

2068
01:48:18,533 --> 01:48:22,813
Speaker 23: Hey, oh, well, then a Hotel TV. Great song. At

2069
01:48:22,893 --> 01:48:25,333
Speaker 23: the start, there's this real mood setter, if you know,

2070
01:48:25,373 --> 01:48:26,813
Speaker 23: when you arrive at a hotel and it's a bit

2071
01:48:26,853 --> 01:48:29,413
Speaker 23: gloomy outside and there's the rain. They've got that sort

2072
01:48:29,453 --> 01:48:32,893
Speaker 23: of soundscape to open the song. And then what catches

2073
01:48:32,973 --> 01:48:35,733
Speaker 23: you the entire way throughout this album is exactly what

2074
01:48:35,893 --> 01:48:39,653
Speaker 23: you said about the harmonies. When those three voices come together,

2075
01:48:40,493 --> 01:48:42,813
Speaker 23: I mean, it just screams to you that they are

2076
01:48:42,893 --> 01:48:45,013
Speaker 23: really in sync with each other, because I don't reckon

2077
01:48:45,053 --> 01:48:47,373
Speaker 23: you can hit those kind of harmonies and the strength

2078
01:48:47,453 --> 01:48:49,893
Speaker 23: and power behind them if you're not really in tune

2079
01:48:49,893 --> 01:48:50,413
Speaker 23: with each.

2080
01:48:50,213 --> 01:48:51,213
Speaker 3: Other, Yeah for sure.

2081
01:48:51,693 --> 01:48:56,093
Speaker 23: And see literally yeah yeah, that's right, like an emotional level,

2082
01:48:56,213 --> 01:48:58,733
Speaker 23: and then musically wise to just be able to create

2083
01:48:58,813 --> 01:49:02,213
Speaker 23: them and there I've really enjoyed this album for hearing

2084
01:49:02,653 --> 01:49:05,693
Speaker 23: so much more of that like sometimes they're not the

2085
01:49:05,813 --> 01:49:08,133
Speaker 23: kind of the melody goes off a little bit, which

2086
01:49:08,173 --> 01:49:10,973
Speaker 23: I think makes harmonies even trickier. When you go off

2087
01:49:11,453 --> 01:49:13,173
Speaker 23: from this kind of maybe so like minor key or

2088
01:49:13,213 --> 01:49:14,973
Speaker 23: something like that, and then you've got these harmonies that

2089
01:49:15,093 --> 01:49:19,453
Speaker 23: follow along. It's yeah, it's pretty magical. This is a

2090
01:49:19,533 --> 01:49:21,053
Speaker 23: kind of album for me where I listened to it

2091
01:49:21,093 --> 01:49:24,173
Speaker 23: a couple of times just through a speaker, but I

2092
01:49:24,213 --> 01:49:25,973
Speaker 23: think they actually had to sit with it a bit closer,

2093
01:49:26,013 --> 01:49:28,493
Speaker 23: had to put my headphones in and really stay with it,

2094
01:49:29,653 --> 01:49:32,133
Speaker 23: because then that's when you start getting through the harmonies

2095
01:49:32,173 --> 01:49:34,093
Speaker 23: and the melodies and you actually start hearing some of

2096
01:49:34,133 --> 01:49:38,853
Speaker 23: the lyrics. They're very Kiwis and Aussie's We're kind of

2097
01:49:38,893 --> 01:49:42,053
Speaker 23: cousins here where we have that dark witch about us, Yeah,

2098
01:49:43,053 --> 01:49:45,933
Speaker 23: and they very much lyrically right into that and lean

2099
01:49:46,013 --> 01:49:48,853
Speaker 23: into that. Folk music can often be a little bit

2100
01:49:50,573 --> 01:49:54,533
Speaker 23: self absorbed and sometimes quite I don't say depressing, but

2101
01:49:54,613 --> 01:49:56,573
Speaker 23: it can be a bit, you know, like emotional like that,

2102
01:49:56,973 --> 01:49:59,493
Speaker 23: where I think these girls manage to bring in quite

2103
01:49:59,493 --> 01:50:01,213
Speaker 23: a bit of humor even if it is a bit

2104
01:50:01,333 --> 01:50:04,213
Speaker 23: dark and undertoneish, and you get that the more you

2105
01:50:04,253 --> 01:50:06,813
Speaker 23: actually hear the lyrics, but I think it's an album

2106
01:50:06,853 --> 01:50:08,453
Speaker 23: you can listen to and go, yeah, I really like

2107
01:50:08,493 --> 01:50:11,253
Speaker 23: the music, and then you can take time again at

2108
01:50:11,293 --> 01:50:13,213
Speaker 23: some stage to kind of sink into those lyrics a

2109
01:50:13,253 --> 01:50:16,453
Speaker 23: little bit more and hear that storytelling focus in the

2110
01:50:16,493 --> 01:50:18,893
Speaker 23: fact that they're really good at the storytelling, but I

2111
01:50:18,973 --> 01:50:20,973
Speaker 23: think a bit more modern because they do sort of

2112
01:50:21,293 --> 01:50:23,893
Speaker 23: jump out of that typical genre thing of being down

2113
01:50:23,933 --> 01:50:26,333
Speaker 23: buzz all the time, which.

2114
01:50:26,173 --> 01:50:27,213
Speaker 16: I really really like.

2115
01:50:27,733 --> 01:50:30,373
Speaker 23: Yeah, they've worked alongside producer Tom Healley, So if you

2116
01:50:30,413 --> 01:50:35,373
Speaker 23: think Tiny Ruins, Lady Hawk, Marlon Williams, he's done most

2117
01:50:35,493 --> 01:50:38,173
Speaker 23: or his latest album on Look, latest couple of albums.

2118
01:50:39,453 --> 01:50:41,253
Speaker 23: And I've got a little bit confused here Deck and

2119
01:50:41,293 --> 01:50:42,773
Speaker 23: I think that I needed to iron this out, and

2120
01:50:42,773 --> 01:50:44,333
Speaker 23: I haven't quite got the answer for yet because I

2121
01:50:44,413 --> 01:50:46,493
Speaker 23: know they recorded the song You're going to Play Soon,

2122
01:50:47,293 --> 01:50:50,253
Speaker 23: God's a Different Sword very fleetingly. They had a visit

2123
01:50:50,373 --> 01:50:53,013
Speaker 23: here to open for Ben Howard and during that time

2124
01:50:53,093 --> 01:50:56,613
Speaker 23: they quickly laid down that track, So I don't know

2125
01:50:56,613 --> 01:50:58,533
Speaker 23: if they recorded the full album or they did that.

2126
01:50:58,693 --> 01:51:02,293
Speaker 23: I think Tom heally might have then also still helped

2127
01:51:02,293 --> 01:51:04,373
Speaker 23: produce some of the other songs, but that one in

2128
01:51:04,413 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 23: particular was the one they recorded while they were here

2129
01:51:06,853 --> 01:51:10,053
Speaker 23: in his studios, but I'm pretty sure he worked more

2130
01:51:10,093 --> 01:51:14,173
Speaker 23: across the album as well, But I can't one hundred

2131
01:51:14,173 --> 01:51:15,853
Speaker 23: percent put my thumb on that for you, but I

2132
01:51:15,973 --> 01:51:17,733
Speaker 23: know he's had a touch on it, which I think

2133
01:51:17,813 --> 01:51:20,733
Speaker 23: is great because if you think of Marlon Williams, even

2134
01:51:20,773 --> 01:51:22,973
Speaker 23: though he's worked with Lady Hawk people like that, you know,

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Speaker 23: he really is quite good at adding some of that

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Speaker 23: little bit of magic that you hear and the music,

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Speaker 23: and he's really good at capturing people's voices. I think

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Speaker 23: like the vocals are very forward, and the microphone sometimes

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Speaker 23: they've almost got that old school like it will sound

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Speaker 23: great on an actual record where it's got that sort

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Speaker 23: of crackly distorted mic sort of sound almost to it

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Speaker 23: with the lead singer and then the harmonies coming and behind.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Just really it's quite dynamic constructures vocally, quite a lot

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Speaker 23: of dynamic stuff going on. There's got these really beautiful,

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Speaker 23: bright flourishes confessional storytelling with a bit of edge, which

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Speaker 23: I really like that that edge that they bring to it,

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Speaker 23: and I guess that again is the modern version of

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Speaker 23: what the genre is that they're taking it as their

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Speaker 23: own yeah, the opening for Yeah, lots of opening for

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Speaker 23: other people, even for our favorite can Gizard and the

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Speaker 23: Lizard Wizard of course coming they're coming back in September

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Speaker 23: and they're doing their own shows. They're doing Turning Fak

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Speaker 23: and Auckland, San fran and Wellington and it's a place

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Speaker 23: in Littleton and I can't think what it's called at

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Speaker 23: the moment. That's end of September, and I think that'll

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Speaker 23: be quite nice because you'll just be able to get

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Speaker 23: a little bit more of them when they've got a

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Speaker 23: full album as well. There's a whole body of work showcase.

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Speaker 3: For Ben Howard, the amazingly so Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, Yeah, And they just didn't stick around in long enough,

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Speaker 23: I think, but now that there's an album behind that

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01:52:49,533 --> 01:52:51,613
Speaker 23: of more for people to get, Yeah, and you kind

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Speaker 23: of want that when you go and see a band

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Speaker 23: live too, and I yeah, I think you'd get more

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Speaker 23: of the richness of what the stories and the music

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Speaker 23: is when you actually go to see them live if

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Speaker 23: you get the chance to. So yeah, but really really

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Speaker 23: enjoyable album.

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Speaker 3: I really liked it, fantastic. What'd you give it? I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna give it a nine out of cent nice. How good? Okay,

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Speaker 3: So the album is now would be a good time.

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Speaker 3: The group is Folk Bitch Trio aka FBT, and we'll

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Speaker 3: have a bit more of a listen in a few minutes.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Hostelle. Catch you next week.

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Speaker 2: Cracking way to start your Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jacktam News Talks by More.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, it just feels like on Saturday morning sometimes I

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Speaker 3: sit down, I pull the microphone close and then push

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Speaker 3: The morning's just raced by, and this is one of

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Speaker 3: those days. Thank you so much for all your texts

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Speaker 3: and emails, your communications throughout the morning, even the ones

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01:53:44,573 --> 01:53:47,293
Speaker 3: for the more terribly friendly. That's totally fine. We're all

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Speaker 3: entitled to our opinions for everything from our show. Of course,

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Speaker 3: you can go to News Talk, ZEDB, dot co dot

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Speaker 3: NZ Forward slash Jack. You can also download our show

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Speaker 3: as a podcast if you want to catch up with

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Speaker 3: it a little bit later. Thanks to my wonderful producer

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Speaker 3: Libby for organizing everything and for always having such fantastic

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Speaker 3: music recommendations. Jason Pine is in the hot seat this

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Speaker 3: afternoon with Weekend Sport, looking at the first round of

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Speaker 3: NPC twenty five. For now, though We're going to leave

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Speaker 3: you with FBT Folk Bitch Trio their first album. Their

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Speaker 3: debut album is called Now Would Be a Good Time

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Speaker 3: and this is God's a different sword. See you next week.

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Speaker 11: Name heard a guy at the bottom of my drawy.

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Speaker 20: Conversation that I started to ignore.

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Speaker 15: Good just.

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Speaker 3: If I left it.

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Speaker 20: Just a little whole. These questions turned to answer this,

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Speaker 20: and I need little pile?

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Speaker 3: Could I be good my own card?

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Speaker 7: Will have nose?

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Speaker 20: I need every God It's a different sword.

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Speaker 7: Go just w.

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Speaker 2: I for better know.

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Speaker 20: I feel awake, club and lieing and I'll book nut

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Speaker 20: just waiting for my brain. Can't deny it. My body

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Speaker 20: keep scorbing. If you tell me that you need it,

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Speaker 20: I can get up over my floor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just wa.

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Speaker 9: Welcome e just a ruler lad.

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Speaker 16: Now my future has.

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Speaker 20: Written out on my Sunday dinner play.

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Speaker 15: Could I be good on my own card?

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Speaker 2: You'll have nose?

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Speaker 20: I needed Becaud's a different story.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: Go just on more

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Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live

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