1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge New 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store. 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: News Talk said, be. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to your Friday. It is great 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: to be with you on Ryan Bridge. It's five oh six. 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 3: This is news Talk, said b We're nearly the anneariate 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 3: the weekend for those who get one. A new photo 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 3: is being posted online right now, I believe from the 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: United States. This is a photo of a new meeting 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: between Biden and Luxeon Prime Minister christ Luxe's over there 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: for the NATO summit. Yesterday they had a grip and grin, 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 3: which is where you you know you grip and new grin. 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: Today we think they might have gone as far as 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: a pull a sign. Yes, you don't want to confuse 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 3: those two things, the grip and pool. Anyway, apparently this 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: is more substantive the meeting that they've had. A photo 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: was taken and we're going to speak to Claire Trevette. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 3: She is on the ground there for us from the 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 3: New Zealand Herald in Washington, DC. We'll speak to her 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: in just a next quarter of an hour or so 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: we're also going to assume. I'm wondering actually whether the 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: Biden knew who he was talking to, you know where 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: we sort of know. We assume that Luxon knew it 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: was Biden. But did Biden wish him the Wallabies well 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: this weekend and the rugby and good luck on the 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: trip back to Canberra. I don't know. We'll ask Claar 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: Trebit about that. Also this morning, what are sperm whales 29 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: talking about underwater? New surprising research? And five thugs enter 30 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: a dairy two weeks ago, the shop owner fights back 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: with a sword. Here's a question for you. Should that 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: shop owner be immune from prosecution in a court of law. 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: We'll talk about that just before seven. Right now it 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: is eight after five. The agenda Friday, the twelfth of July. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: The Transport Minister is working to get cones off our roads. 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: Simon Brown says the government will balance safe and cost 37 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: rather than taking a safety at any cost approach for 38 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: temporary traffic management. MZTA will also have to publicly report 39 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: its total amounts spent on cones per quarter. Simeon Brown 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: hopes the policy will create greater accountability. 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: Ex Cars will know how. 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 5: Much is being suppent, we'll be able to see whether 43 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 5: or not that's actually good use. 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: Of money, and our expectation is that amount of money 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 4: will be reduced. 46 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: Awlkiners have delivered a scathing review of the city's transport 47 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 3: agency and a new poll not surprising. This is from 48 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 3: the rate Payers Alliance. Forty percent of those surveyed say 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 3: all Can Transport is doing a below average job. Just 50 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: twenty eight percent say it's doing a good job. I'd 51 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 3: like to know who they are. Only nineteen percent of 52 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 3: people are in favor of a proposal to charge for 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 3: parking twenty four to seven. In the Central City, dairy 54 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: company sin Lay has voted to take on one hundred 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: and thirty million dollars a debt from its biggest shareholder. 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: That's the Chinese company Bright Dairy. We spoke about that yesterday. 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: Ninety nine point six percent of the shareholders voted in 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: favor of the loan, which will last for twelve months 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: the interest it's great to get this eight percent. Sind 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: La jeer George Adams says despite the cash boost, the 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: company's not out of the woods yet. We've got to 62 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: deliver a significant equity reas to rescue this business and 63 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 3: so we will be making sure that whatever we do 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: is for to all shoholders. Rwanda has said it doesn't 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 3: need to pay back the UK after a deal between 66 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: the two countries was scrapped. It would have allowed the 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: UK to send migrants to the East African nation. But 68 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: the new prime Minister in the UK, kurs Starmer, he's 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 3: come in and he's got rid of it. He said no, 70 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 3: we don't need that deal, and Rwanda has said, okay, 71 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: we'll keep the money. How much money are they going 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: to keep? Close to half a billion New Zealand dollars? 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: It is nine h five if that was the agenda. 74 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 6: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 75 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's furniture bids and 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 6: applying store news talk said Bee. 77 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: I've lost a bit of faith in our public institutions 78 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: and the fact that when they say something I just 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: don't believe them anymore. Nzta thanks given. There was a 80 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if you know about this, a trial 81 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: done at a rotrou akaying or order housing estage. They 82 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: trialed the free use of fifteen e bikes for one 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: hundred and ten thousand dollars. This is a pilot that 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: they ran, so they it was a trial. They loaned 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 3: the e bikes. They were worth close to five thousand 86 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: dollars each of these e bikes, and there were some 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: push bikes as well, and they caged them in a 88 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: thirty five thousand dollars built a thirty five thousand dollar cage. Now, 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 3: this is one of four sites around New Zealand where 90 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: they have caged e bikes which are on loan or 91 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: available for loan for use. There's no sign out process 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: or anything like that. You can just go in and 93 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 3: get your e bike and off you go. Now, this 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: is what MZGA has said when questioned about whether this 95 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: was a sensible use of taxpayers money. NZTA says the 96 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: trial has already achieved all of its objectives, with benefits 97 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: such as helping residents exercise, attend school and work and 98 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 3: go to the supermarket. So I just don't believe you. 99 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: I don't believe you anything that you say. Now, I 100 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: just don't believe why, because then you talk to the 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: actual residents, as the New Zealand Herald has done. Lennard's 102 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 3: a lethal header. Winnie told that to do a daily 103 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 3: post It was her opinion that people took advantage of 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 3: the bikes. Was some of them broken and taken away. 105 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: For several weeks it was cool, but the teenagers started 106 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 3: wrecking them after a while. She said. It's not necessarily 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: those living in the complex who were using the e bikes, 108 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: it was others. Another resident said, in her view, they 109 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: should there should have been rules stipulated. It was another 110 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 3: waste of money. These are the residents who are living 111 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 3: in the caying or Order complex. And as for e bikes, 112 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 3: you know, we've got people exercising. It's an e bike. 113 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 3: Do you know how many fat people I see riding 114 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: around on e bikes in Central Auckland. Honestly, I'm sure 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 3: they were wearing their helmets, but they could actually be 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: wearing helmets on their knees. And you know, and they say, 117 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: I commute by bicycle. No you don't. You sit down. 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 3: It's no different to being in a taxi. 119 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 7: You know. 120 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I suppose your legs are technically moving, but 121 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: they're basically been moved for you, aren't they. It has 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: just gone twelve minutes after five. You're listening to newstalk, 123 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: saidb will have more from the United States with Clare Trouvette. 124 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 6: Next Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early 125 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 6: edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds at a 126 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: playing store. 127 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 3: News Talk ZIB fourteen after five nine, two ninety two. 128 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: On the text, Gary says, please do not even dream 129 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: that Luxon said even more than high to Joe Biden. 130 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: Don't get our ambitions mixed up with our abilities. That's 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: a very cynical view from you this morning, Gary. But 132 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: we're going to get the lowdown right now because Christopher 133 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 3: Luxon has met with the US President Joe Biden. This 134 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: is a new meeting at the White House. There was 135 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 3: the dinner last night, now a new meeting as the 136 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: NATO summit ramps up. It's been a busy day for 137 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 3: the PM meeting with the Indo Pacific leaders before heading 138 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: to the NATO North to the North Atlantic Council meeting 139 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: as well as bilateral meetings. He's got later this morning. 140 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Joining me now is The New Zealand Herald's political editor 141 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: Claire Trevet. Claire, let's talk about that new meeting between 142 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: Luxon and Biden. 143 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 5: Yes, it's just happened here now. They've sent a photo 144 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 5: of the two of them together. It seems that they've 145 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: had something of a short chat before the next summit 146 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: meeting that's happening here. We're not sure of the contents 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 5: of that. We'll talk to Christopher Luxon in another couple 148 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 5: of hours and hopefully get a bit more out of it. 149 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: But they have had what seems to be a more 150 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 5: falsome catch up. He hasn't yet had a proper chat 151 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 5: with US President Joe Biden, other then at the dinner 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 5: last night. I think they'd had a handshake as they 153 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: came in kind of thing. So he'll be pretty stoked 154 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: if he's had a better chat than that. It made him. 155 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 5: I think it made him a bit late for the 156 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: next summit, but it's probably worth it, so we'll find 157 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 5: out the full context of that chat a bit later. 158 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: He's obviously not going into Biden's mental has toy et 159 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: cetera for good reason. Have you seen Biden since you've 160 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: been there? Have you seen him speak? Do you have 161 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: any comment on his mental acuity? 162 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 5: Well, the most interesting thing over here is the all 163 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 5: of them are being asked about Biden, and the NATO 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 5: leaders are a bit nervous about it because Donald Trump's 165 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 5: less friendly towards NATO than Joe Biden is. You've had 166 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: George Clooney coming out. He dropped a real clanger of 167 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: an ophead and the worst thing he said was that 168 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 5: the Democratic Party leaders have to stop trying to fall 169 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 5: kind of one hundred and fifty five million people that 170 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 5: they didn't see what they you know, what they thought 171 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 5: they had seen. And I've seen Biden not in the flesh, 172 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 5: but I have watched him deliver the main speeches of 173 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 5: the NATO function. 174 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 7: It's hard to. 175 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 5: Tell with those because they're autoq basically, so he's more 176 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: or less just reading them out. But I mean he is, 177 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 5: you know, he's not a young man, so we'll leave 178 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: it to them. But I think Nancy Pelosi came out 179 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: in the end and still the Democrats to stop talking 180 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 5: about it until at least after the NATO sum much 181 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 5: has ended. So I suspect things to get a bit 182 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 5: messy here once NATO was finished and Joe Biden no 183 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,719 Speaker 5: longer being made a fool of in front of all 184 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 5: these world leaders. 185 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: That's pretty much. 186 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 5: It's pretty much conversation. But it's just kind of if 187 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 5: we were like there will be all of them are 188 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 5: being asked about Biden that even in that Pacific four meeting, 189 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 5: we weren't allowed to ask any questions, but of course 190 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 5: you know if someone inevitably does. And one of the 191 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 5: Australian journalists yelled out to Zelenski, asked him whether he 192 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 5: thought Joe Biden should step down as the as the candidate. 193 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: So that's the only question that got yelled. 194 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: Out, and you can always you can always expect that 195 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: from an Aussie journal Ain't that just ruthless? Hey? This 196 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: pressor where it could all come undone? So this is 197 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: Biden going on his own tour pressa after NATO. It's 198 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: going to be nine to thirty New Zealand Times, so 199 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: just after we are off here, it'll be during Carey's 200 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: show here on Newstalks. He b but do you get 201 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 3: to go to that? 202 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 5: I actually think we may have to be on our 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 5: way to the airport, so we're kind of hoping we will. 204 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 5: But everything's running a bit late here as well, so 205 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 5: it could get it could get crunched out, but we're 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 5: not sure one time. 207 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 7: Now. 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 5: The conflicting thing is that, you know, Chris Lutson's been 209 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: trying to get a meeting with Tim Cruz the whole 210 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: time he's been here and it's been delayed twice. One 211 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: last chance this morning, just before he goes to the plane. Right, 212 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm not sure whether whether or not we'll 213 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 5: get to say that. We're hoping to clear. 214 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. That's Clear Trevett, who 215 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: is The New Zealand Herald's political editor, with US live 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: from Washington, DC this morning, So you have it. We 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 3: don't know what they spoke about. We don't know how 218 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: long the meeting was, but Luxeon has had some sort 219 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: of pull aside meeting with the US President Joe Biden. 220 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: Right now, it is nineteen minutes after five o'clock, coming 221 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: up next to Elliott Smith on the All Blacks at 222 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: Eden Park this weekend. 223 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 6: The News you Need this morning and the in depth 224 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 6: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 6: Zealand's Furniture, Beds and a playing Store. 226 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: News Talk sid be twenty one after five coming up 227 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: very shortly. We're going to talk about retail crime and 228 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: this new task force that's been set up to try 229 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: and tackle it. Right now, though, the rugby New Zealand 230 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: faced their second match against England this weekend. After a 231 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: nail biting finished last week. Both squads have been named 232 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: with almost no changes. We're just Finlay Christie replacing TJ. 233 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: Petinada following his injury. There's also a change over at 234 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: the England side. Elliott Smith is News Talks Be's rugby 235 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: commentator and he is with me now, Elliott, good morning, 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: Nice to have you on the program. 237 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 8: Is this. 238 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 3: A more significant test given that it's Eden Park? 239 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so. Possibly for the All Blacks now 240 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: they've had a week to settle into the combinations. Scott Robertson, 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: It's so longer like the first week of school, he 242 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 4: was saying yesterday to the media. It's more like, Okay, 243 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 4: we know what we're doing. Now, everyone knows their way 244 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 4: to the classroom. Let's get things done. So for the 245 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 4: All Blacks, I think is the sense that last week 246 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 4: was about putting some systems in place. This week it's 247 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 4: really about fine tuning that and putting what they want 248 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 4: to do in terms of a rugby product out onto 249 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 4: the park. Look, they got the win last week, but 250 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 4: it's quite clear that it wasn't entirely perfect or thing 251 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: that how want things to go over the course of 252 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: a season. So week one on the board. Now that 253 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 4: looks a week two and try and make some improvements. 254 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: What are you expecting. Do you expect that now that 255 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: they've got that first one out of the way, maybe 256 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 3: the nerves or the gishes or whatever are gone, and 257 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: that we'll just kind of run home. 258 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 4: Let's hope so from an all tax perspective, and hope 259 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 4: that things run a little more smooth than England will 260 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 4: be making sure to the best of their possibilities. That 261 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: can't happen, of course, and the All Blacks desperately need 262 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 4: to find a way to figure out this rush defense 263 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: or the unbreilldered defense, whatever way you won't call it. 264 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 4: They need to find a way to score more points 265 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 4: against England. England were very very good at suffocating the 266 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 4: All Blacks last week, making sure there wasn't enough space. 267 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 4: And you'll Blacks are a team that historically likes to 268 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 4: run the ball and use their outside backs and create 269 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 4: some opportunities there. They simply didn't get enough of those 270 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: last week against England. They had two tries in the 271 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: first spell where kept trialists and the second spell. And 272 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: they're not a team that is comfortable. I don't think 273 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: we're scoring penalty goals to keep the scoreboard ticking over 274 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 4: and win test that way. So they're going to have 275 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: to try and find ways to get past this English defense. 276 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 4: And there wasn't a lot of space out in the 277 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: park last week, and that's what international rugby is seemingly 278 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 4: all about at the moment, is finding those little patches 279 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 4: of space and converting that into try scoring opportunities. 280 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: Elliott, thank you. You're going to pick a score for us. 281 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 4: I'll go to the All Black So I hit the 282 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 4: All Blacks I think by five when I was chatting 283 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: last week, So I'm going to go the All Blacks 284 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: by seven. How about that? 285 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: Tom and I sound pretty good. Allott Smith with US 286 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 3: News Talk, said be rugby commentator. It is twenty four 287 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: minutes out of five o'clock. You're on news Talk. Of 288 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 3: course when we come back. Why is it that so 289 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 3: many companies ask you so many questions before they'll sell 290 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: you a product? What's your name, what's your number, what's 291 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 3: your haircul? Why do they do it? And how can 292 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 3: we stop them? 293 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 6: Separating the fact from the fiction. Kid's Billy Edition with Smith, 294 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 6: City New Zealand's Furniture, Beds and appliant store NEWSTALKSB. 295 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: It is twenty six after five News talks 'b with me, 296 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge. Have you ever tried to buy a pair 297 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: of shoes online recently? Maybe a T shirt? Maybe try 298 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: and book a haircut online? You'd have been asked a 299 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: billion and one questions, what time, what day do you 300 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: want your haircut? That stuff's fine. Then they want your name, 301 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: your address, your birthdate, your postal address. How did you 302 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: hear about us? What shampoo do you use? I didn't 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: ask for all of that. At this point. I'd rather 304 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 3: pull my hair out in clumps than actually go through 305 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: all of these stupid, irrelevant questions and actually get my 306 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: haircut with you. I've been trying to get paid from 307 00:14:56,920 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: NEWSTALKSZB this week. I probably shouldn't talk about this. I've 308 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: been trying to get paid, you see, because it's important 309 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: to get paid. You need to pay for things like haircuts. 310 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: And I realize this is very dangerous ground to be 311 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: treading on. I've only been here a week and the 312 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: people here are wonderful, great, excellent people. I want to 313 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: make that point, but some of the processes, oh my goodness, 314 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 3: just absurd. You think they just want my bank account, 315 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: my ird number, whatever, pay me. No, every personal detail 316 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: under the sun, they want it, you name it, they 317 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: want it, my sex, probably who I'm having sex with, 318 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: my home address, my ethnicity. This is the one that 319 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: I couldn't understand. This sent me to into a tailspin. 320 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: Why do you need the color of my skin to 321 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: pay me? And this is not just my employer's situation, 322 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: by the way, this is a third party who runs this, 323 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 3: so that there must be plenty of people and companies 324 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: out there that are doing this. It's not a legal requirement. 325 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: And the stupid drop down box wasn't working for me, 326 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: so I wasn't even able to pick my ethnic I 327 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: tried to pick European and it would have let me. 328 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: I tried all of them. I tried to say it 329 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: was Chinese or Tino, even Indian, and I'm like, are 330 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: you going to pay me in rupees? What is the 331 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: significance of my ethnicity to whether I'm getting paid or not? Anyway, 332 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: I calmed myself down and sorted that issue out. But 333 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: the reason I ask is and the reason I'm talking 334 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: about this is because a lot of the information that 335 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: we give these companies goes into some big database somewhere 336 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: at the back end of their computer system, and oftentimes 337 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: these computer systems get hacked. Thousands of companies have thousands 338 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: of bits of data about us, and they not only 339 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: sell it between one another, but as I said, can 340 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: often get hacked. So I've come up with an idea, 341 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: a bill I'm hoping to get through Parliament. It's called 342 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 3: the Excessive Digital Information Collection Protection Bill. And for every 343 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 3: question they ask us, we get five bucks. And I 344 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: want to be able to reject all cookies. You know, 345 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 3: that function they have over in Europe that we don't 346 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: have here. I want to be able to have that 347 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: function here too, And I want the ability to sue 348 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: if my data is stolen. And I'm talking billions of dollars. 349 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: Just go away. Just stop asking all these questions. It's incessant, 350 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: it's unnecessary, and it puts all of us more at 351 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: risk when it comes to scammers. It's twenty nine minutes 352 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 3: after five. This is News Talk said be News is next, 353 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 3: and we're going to talk about retail crime. Just before 354 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: seven o'clock. 355 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: Love me Too. This time of Vested you are there. 356 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 6: The first word on the News of the Day Early 357 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 6: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture 358 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 6: Beds and Appliant store. 359 00:17:45,680 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: News Talk said, be welcome to your Friday morning here 360 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: on news Talks. He'd be great to be with you. 361 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 3: A text here from Scott says, just in the car 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: listening to you talking about fat people and e bikes. 363 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: He's upset. He says, you shouldn't be talking about fat people. 364 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: They have to start somewhere, even if it is an 365 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 3: e bike. It was a very poor choice of words, Scott, 366 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: I apologize for that. Moving on to something entirely different. 367 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 3: Sperm whales. Now they have a listen to this. This 368 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: is the clicking of a sperm whale. And what you're 369 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: about to hear is what's called coder. See that extra bit. Now, 370 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: scientists have been studying our sperm whales. They are up 371 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: to eighteen meters in length, they are up to forty tons, 372 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 3: and they dive very deep into the ocean, in fact, 373 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: as deep as three kilometers under the sea. And they've 374 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: been using AI to try and work out exactly what 375 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 3: it is they're saying to each other. And it turns 376 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: out they're actually talking as a family. So the clicks 377 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: that you can hear are used to detect prey, and 378 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: then the particular sequence that you can hear belongs to 379 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 3: an individual, family or a pod, so that they know 380 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 3: who they are in relation to each other. It's a 381 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: bit like when you're at the park and mom says, 382 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 3: you know Ryan, come back and you know her voice. 383 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 3: They think it is the same for sperm whales. It's fascinating. 384 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: And what they do, what they've observed them doing, is 385 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 3: at one thousand meters, many of the group will be 386 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: facing the same way. They'll flank each other, but across 387 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: an area of several kilometers. So these sounds are traveling 388 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: several kilometers through the ocean to talk to their brothers 389 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 3: and sisters and their mums and dads, and they are 390 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: able to stay in that group with one another and 391 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 3: they're talking in their clicking, and then after about an hour, 392 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: the group rises to the surface, all in synchrony, and 393 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: they might be at the surface to say, fifteen twenty minutes, 394 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 3: and then they will dive again at the end of 395 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: the day after they with their foraging. This is the 396 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: best bird. They come together at the surface, they rub 397 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 3: against each other and they chat while they socialize. Isn't 398 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 3: that sweet? So there you go. They are working out 399 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: and they're using AI to discern all of this about 400 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: our sperm whales. It is just one quick question is 401 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: how do they sleep? You know, if sperm whale falls asleep, 402 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: would have not dropped to the bottom of the ocean. 403 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: Question twenty one Away from sex News and. 404 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 6: Views, You Trust to start your day's early edition with 405 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 406 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 6: a Flying Store News Talk zid Be. 407 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 3: Colum Proctor is with us in Dunedin this morning. Calum, 408 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 3: A sweet surprise. 409 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 9: Here morning, Ryan, very much so Dunedan residents waking up 410 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 9: to the news today that our little craft chocolate company 411 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 9: ot Sho has avoided liquidations so it will continue. This 412 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 9: was the factory you remember that opened up following a 413 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 9: crowd funding campaign when Cadbury closed down. Hereo's sheerholders voted 414 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 9: a against liquidation instead, the company's board has resigned. It 415 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 9: previously believed that it couldn't trade out of its financial 416 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 9: situation or achieve profitability under its current business model, but 417 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 9: its former chairman and current city councilor Jim Emeley says 418 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 9: ot Sho does have enough funds to support its current 419 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 9: four staff. He says, the others left during the liquidation 420 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 9: discussions and the remaining core staff can now run the factory. 421 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: And how's the weather today? Come? 422 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 9: Mostly cloudy, possible light shower today nor easteries and a 423 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 9: hive nine. 424 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: Claire and Christchurch claieshure, We're good to have you Sinlay 425 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 3: Milks surviving. What's the reaction to this loan? 426 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 10: Yes, look, shareholders at the South Island Dairy Process have 427 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 10: voted to take out this one hundred and thirty million 428 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 10: dollar loan. Ryan. The lifeline comes from its largest shareholder, 429 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 10: Bright Dairy, which under inded X rules wasn't allowed to 430 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 10: join to vote on this proposal. It does mean that 431 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 10: Sinley can meet its debt repayments to the bank, which 432 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 10: would do on Monday. Federated farm As Mid Canterbury president 433 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 10: David Ackland says the situation has played out as many 434 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 10: had hoped. He says, everyone's now looking to the future 435 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 10: and seeing where Sinley's equity rays will go. 436 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 3: Weather for Christ George. 437 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 10: Mostly cloudy, patche drizzle and some light winds. That drizzle 438 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 10: will turn to showers this evening. The high is nine 439 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 10: and one overnight. 440 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: Enjoy your Friday Clear Max tolls and Wellington Max. Have 441 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: I got this right? A judge is praising a violent 442 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: parliamentary protester. 443 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 11: Yes, yes, appraising him now. So this is a fifty 444 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 11: three year old Alan Chapman who was caught on camera 445 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 11: during those parliament protests hurling items like a table, metal pole, 446 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 11: concrete pavers, mostly at police. So he's come up for 447 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 11: sentencing at the Wellington District Court, which has heard about 448 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 11: Chapman's difficult life, how it led to a deep seated 449 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 11: distrust of institutions like government agencies, police, etc. Jail was 450 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 11: definitely on the cards for Chapman, but a judge heard 451 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 11: a glowing probationary probationary report that had basically turned his 452 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 11: life around, was helping takeing care of his son living 453 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 11: in temporary accommodation, and the judge said, if you jail Chapman, 454 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 11: and I quote the judge here, his distrust of government, 455 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 11: courts and agencies would simply be in your mind and 456 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 11: you would feel aggravated, which would be going right back 457 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 11: to where we started. And so eighteen months intense supervision 458 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 11: instead on the charge of rioting and community work. 459 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 3: Goodness. May so, how will the weather be for his 460 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: community probation today. 461 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 11: Yes, mostly cloudy, would light showers. 462 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for that. Next hole in Wellington 463 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 3: and neither. Aretty managers with us in Auckland this morning. 464 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 12: Morning, hippy anniversary. 465 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 3: Your first week. You've done. 466 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 12: First week here at ZIDB. 467 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 3: They're nearly done. 468 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 12: Well done. 469 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: I can't believe it. I can't believe. 470 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 12: It's sort of a chuckle earlier on with some of 471 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 12: the things that you were saying about the you know 472 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 12: how they ask you. 473 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 3: All those questions and things. Do you know what I mean? 474 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 12: I so know what you mean. I was in my 475 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 12: studio going, I hear you, why. 476 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: Do they need to know my ethnicity to payments? 477 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 12: I was thinking, what is your ethnicity? 478 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: By the way, Well i'm here we go. Oh sorry, 479 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit Irish. Right, DNA test and I'm 480 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: fourteen percent Iberian Peninsula. Oh which Portuguese or Spanish? Oh wow, 481 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 3: that's a nice combo. Yeah, so we're not sure which. 482 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 12: One because every time people, you know, when I have 483 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 12: to fill it out, I have to put in my 484 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 12: full name, which is oh you don't know this, everyone 485 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 12: else does. But it's fun and Tapa Alphas is seen 486 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 12: for POPLERITTI Marnu. 487 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I know so. 488 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 12: I have to do that all the time. And then 489 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 12: they say what's the name that you're known as? I 490 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 12: think called flipping the heir just neva. 491 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: I know, feel my pain and I think should shut 492 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: them up, just show them up. Auckland's voice in their 493 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: opinions about Auckland transfer. 494 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: Yes. 495 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 12: Now, this is this poll from the Auckland Ratepayers Alliance 496 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 12: and it shows that almost forty percent of responders rate 497 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 12: eighties performance below average. I don't think that's a surprise. Really, 498 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 12: twenty eight percent think it's doing a great job. And 499 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 12: of course the seventy percent are against the proposed twenty 500 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 12: four to seven CBD parking charges which came in and 501 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 12: July first, more than half field that. Look, it needs 502 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 12: to be held more accountable by Auckland Council. But you 503 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 12: know they're doing their best. And Sam Warren, who's the 504 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 12: Alliance local government campaigns manager, he says year once again 505 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 12: that the results aren't surprising after thirteen years of operation. 506 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 12: You know they're developing a best no best approach for 507 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 12: the people. 508 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, good locks what we can say, Hey, whether today's. 509 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 12: Look chili fine? 510 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 11: And chrisp. 511 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 12: I shouldn't say that though, because it has been lovely 512 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 12: during the day, beautiful. It has a high of thirteen. 513 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 12: Pretty chilly though for Auckland. 514 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: Neha, thank you, great to see you. It is sixteen 515 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: away from six o'clock. You're listening to News Talk seed 516 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: B and coming up next we are talking to Vincent mcgavney, 517 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 3: our UK and Europe correspondent Kiirs. Starmer's had a busy 518 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 3: first week in the job too. 519 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 6: More on that International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, 520 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 6: Peace of mind for New Zealand Business. 521 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: Thirteen away from six News Talk said b so kis 522 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 3: Starmer in the UK. He's had a busy first week 523 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 3: as Prime minister. In fact, he's not in the UK 524 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: right now. He's in Washington, DC at the NATO summit, 525 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 3: and we are joined by Vincent mcavinie. He's a UK 526 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 3: and Europe correspondent. How's he going first, Wig, Well, good. 527 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: Morning, Ryan, Congratulations on your new job. 528 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 13: A Kir Starmer has been pretty busy with his He's 529 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 13: been out in Washington, DC at this NATO summit, meeting 530 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 13: fellow world leaders and he had a special meeting with 531 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 13: President Joe Biden in the White House last night. He's 532 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 13: been asked about that today and of course the question 533 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 13: on everyone's minds how he doing as a Kirs Starmer 534 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 13: has praised the President's leadership and saying he got on 535 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 13: well with him and that he was on really good form. 536 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 13: Kiir Starmer will be flying back to the UK. He's 537 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 13: going to then be going off to Germany to see 538 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 13: England in the Euro's Final, and then next week he's 539 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 13: inviting around fifty leaders from across Europe here to the 540 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 13: UK for a summit. It's the European Commit Political Community 541 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 13: Summit to discuss all man of European issues, immigration and 542 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 13: the war in Ukraine. So he's really getting off to 543 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 13: a bit of a flying start as he takes up 544 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 13: the job after fourteen years of Conservative government here. 545 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: Interesting time for him too because if Trump does return, 546 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, and with with what's going on in France 547 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 3: it's a bit of a shambles at the moment, you know, 548 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 3: sort of a weekend leader in Germany as well, he 549 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 3: could be sort of the voice of Europe, do you think. 550 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 13: Hugely, because I think many of us remember that press 551 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 13: conference after Donald Trump was elected by angler Merkle where 552 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 13: she effectively assumed the role of sort of stable leader 553 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 13: of the West and sort of at various conferences I 554 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 13: went to, at G twenties and G eight NATO conferences, 555 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 13: she very much sort of made sure that the rules 556 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 13: and international order as much as possible were kept in 557 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 13: line and try to rein him in now ol A. F. 558 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: Schultze is pretty weak in Germany. 559 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 13: Macro has played an absolute error with that snap election, 560 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 13: So so kirs Starmer really is likely to become if 561 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 13: Trump is reelected, that sort of strong voice of the 562 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 13: West that tries to reinforce the norms and the post 563 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 13: World War II order, And it's a role that he 564 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 13: might have to get used to pretty. 565 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: Quickly and very quickly. Vincent, will kiirs Stamer be the 566 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: lucky Charmer for England on Sunday, Well. 567 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 2: We'll see. 568 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 13: He's made much of the fact that England have played 569 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 13: two games and only one under him. It's going to 570 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 13: be a bit of a moment for the nation. King 571 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 13: Charles has sent a message congratulating them, but he's asked 572 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 13: and may I encourage you to secure victory before the 573 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 13: need for any last minute wonder goals or another penalties drama. 574 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 13: I'm sure the stresses of the nation's collective heart rate 575 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 13: and blood pressure would be greatly alleviated. So everyone here 576 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 13: hoping it isn't a sort of typical England combustion. 577 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: At the end of this tournament. 578 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: UK you're correspondent Vincent mcavinie, Ryan Bridge. A new ministerial 579 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 3: advisory Group will be set up to engage with victims 580 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 3: of retail crime. The group will advise the government on 581 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: how to reduce offending. This affects ninety two percent of 582 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: all retailers. Can you believe it? Two point six billion 583 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: dollars a year? It costs us Carolyn Young from retail 584 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 3: in z it is with me now, Carolyn, good to 585 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: have you on the program this morning. Have you, first 586 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,239 Speaker 3: of all, got any out of the box ideas that 587 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: we should be trying, that this group should be looking. 588 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 7: At moderna Ryan Well, I don't know if it's out 589 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 7: of the box, but effectively looking at you know, some 590 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 7: of the work that we're already doing in terms of 591 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 7: the space, and the most obvious thing is obviously wanting 592 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 7: to have increasing police numbers because you know, they're having 593 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 7: a police presence on the streets by always deters offending, 594 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 7: So you know, that's a no brain or something to do. 595 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 7: Sometimes the simple things are the most effective, and that's 596 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 7: a really effective tool. And then as we move forward 597 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 7: the use of technology, and there's lots of different ways 598 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 7: in which you can use technology to help combat offenders, 599 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 7: keeping stores safe for staff and customers. So it can 600 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 7: be anything from body cameras to facial recognition to license 601 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 7: plate recognition. There's a whole raft of other things as well, 602 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 7: and the use of technology and training for staff is 603 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 7: also really important. 604 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 3: What about the more aggressive ones, Carolyn, And I know 605 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: that some it's more dairy owners, some dairy owners who 606 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 3: want to go to on this track, but allowing them 607 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: to have you know, tasers or arm themselves and then 608 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: be immune from prosecution should anything go wrong. 609 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, look, I think that or certainly the police Minister 610 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 7: is already looking at the role of security guards and 611 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 7: I know yesterday there was a talk of extending that 612 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 7: to retail workers on the sense a little bit around 613 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 7: what might that look like and does that then encourage 614 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 7: people that are going to offend to escalate the situation 615 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 7: in advance so they're prepared for something like that. Neighboring 616 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 7: other tools that could end in more and more violence 617 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 7: in store. So he's to be really careful because we 618 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 7: haven't really as a country or a nation, gone through 619 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 7: a situation where we fight fire with fire, because it's 620 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 7: not doesn't always work out that well. 621 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 3: The fire is all coming one way at the moment, isn't. 622 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's the same. 623 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 7: It is all coming one way here, and I think that, 624 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 7: you know, there might be some tools that might be appropriate, 625 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 7: but things like guns and swords and things like that, 626 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 7: I don't really think is a country want to head 627 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 7: down that pathway, But you know, I guess the Advisory 628 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 7: Group will look into that and we'll be doing our 629 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 7: own research around that space to see what our members 630 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: are telling us that they feel that they need. 631 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 3: The opposition says that this is a talk fest. Do 632 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 3: you know, is there a rest? This is just going 633 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 3: to go around in circles and actually we'll be here 634 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: again in two years. 635 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 7: There is a risk of that. But we are leading 636 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 7: a bunch of WOK that's looking at legislative change and 637 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 7: how that can be a tool and a mechanism to 638 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 7: help retailers were also obviously advocating on the use of 639 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 7: technology to protect staff and stores. And if you can 640 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 7: protect staff and stores, it reduces the needs for people 641 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 7: to be having things like tases and be defending themselves. 642 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 7: I certainly think that if you are having to defend 643 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 7: yourself against criminals, that you don't want to be charged 644 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 7: with that. But it's really thinking about do we want 645 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 7: to encourage that and is that the right pathway forward. 646 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 7: So there's certainly lots of We're working with the policemen us, 647 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 7: the Justice Minister, of the Whippos Relations, We're working with 648 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 7: the Police Commissioner as well, and we've got to remember 649 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 7: at Woking groups who are actually doing this just and 650 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 7: hope we compete in this group as well well well. 651 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: Hopefully between all of these groups, something will happen, something 652 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: will change. Carolyn, thank you very much for your time 653 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: this morning. Carolyn Young from Retail end Z Love your 654 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: Views nine two nine, two, seven to six. We're back 655 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: in just a moment. 656 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 6: Get ahead of the headlines. Ryan Bridge you for twenty 657 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 6: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand, 658 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 6: Furniture Beds and a Player store News Talk zib It. 659 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: Is coming up to six o'clock. Andrew Dickens with you. 660 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 3: After six We were talking about sperm whales earlier on 661 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 3: the program. Of course they're really slow swimmers, so they'll 662 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: go about five and a half kilometers in our three knots. 663 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: And what we can't work out is why they are 664 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 3: able to catch the squid because they're so slow. How 665 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 3: do they get the squid? 666 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 8: This squid is so stupid. They just open their mouth 667 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 8: and the squid walk quite right right on in. 668 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 3: Might be what it is. I think that the research 669 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 3: they're doing into their talking, maybe they're stunning them the 670 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: squid with their sona with their sona and catching them 671 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: like a snake charmer. 672 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 8: It's like science fiction. 673 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 3: Man, what's on the big show today? 674 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 8: Well, there's loads of stuff the Advisory Group and should 675 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 8: we sell the into Islander with Paul Goldsmith. But I 676 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 8: think the big story, the biggest story of the lot, 677 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 8: is that we're running out a natural gas. Like, we're 678 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 8: running out of natural gas and it's been around for ages, 679 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 8: but seriously, folks, we're running out a natural gas. It's 680 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 8: going to get very expensive. So we're talking big on that. 681 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Andrew dickens with you just after six this morning. By 682 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 3: the way, when it comes to the dairy owners. Who 683 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: am I to decide whether they should arm themselves or not. 684 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm not the one getting stabbed, and you know, my 685 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: partner getting beaten up on a Friday night, so I 686 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 3: think that decision should really be more up to them 687 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: more than anything. See you on Monday. 688 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 6: For more from news Talks that'd be listen on air 689 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 6: or online. And keep our shows with you wherever you 690 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.