1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,747 Speaker 1: from Newstalk SEDB. 3 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:16,427 Speaker 2: Last weekend, the country's top ax men, Jack Jordan, won 4 00:00:16,467 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: the still Timber Sports World Championship Individual event for the 5 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:23,067 Speaker 2: first time. He's just the third key we to win 6 00:00:23,107 --> 00:00:27,467 Speaker 2: the title, joining Jason Wynyard and David Bolstad. Having finished 7 00:00:27,467 --> 00:00:30,787 Speaker 2: a close second last year in the traditional long form 8 00:00:30,907 --> 00:00:35,827 Speaker 2: format across six different wood shopping and saw in disciplines, 9 00:00:36,187 --> 00:00:38,987 Speaker 2: Jack Jordan came out on top of the twelve strong 10 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:42,347 Speaker 2: field in Milan, Italy last weekend. He's back home now 11 00:00:42,387 --> 00:00:45,707 Speaker 2: and joins us. Jack, Congratulations on your first win in 12 00:00:45,787 --> 00:00:48,707 Speaker 2: this very prestigious event. How long did it take to 13 00:00:48,787 --> 00:00:51,547 Speaker 2: sink in that you'd actually won and become a world champion. 14 00:00:52,387 --> 00:00:55,707 Speaker 3: Well, it was a bit of a strange feeling afterwards. 15 00:00:55,747 --> 00:00:57,867 Speaker 3: Sort of the event went through about three hours, and 16 00:00:57,947 --> 00:01:01,747 Speaker 3: I sort of spent them three hours staying pretty composed 17 00:01:01,787 --> 00:01:04,867 Speaker 3: and staying pretty relaxed. So afterwards I sort of felt 18 00:01:04,907 --> 00:01:07,667 Speaker 3: like I locked and come a cross pretty relaxed all so, 19 00:01:08,627 --> 00:01:10,627 Speaker 3: I think it's still sinking and sinking in now. 20 00:01:10,707 --> 00:01:14,667 Speaker 2: Yeah, the competition involves six disciplines. Can you just take 21 00:01:14,747 --> 00:01:17,507 Speaker 2: us through each one and tell us what you have 22 00:01:17,547 --> 00:01:19,147 Speaker 2: to do for each Yeah. 23 00:01:18,947 --> 00:01:22,427 Speaker 3: So we've got three chopping events and three sawing events. 24 00:01:23,787 --> 00:01:26,267 Speaker 3: We start off with the underhand chop, that's where we 25 00:01:26,307 --> 00:01:31,147 Speaker 3: cut the log that's between between our legs. Then we 26 00:01:31,387 --> 00:01:34,667 Speaker 3: do a stock saw stocks saw ray, so we cut 27 00:01:34,667 --> 00:01:38,987 Speaker 3: two discs with a six sixty one. Then it goes 28 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:41,507 Speaker 3: to the standard lock chop where we cut the log 29 00:01:41,587 --> 00:01:46,187 Speaker 3: that's standing next to us. After that it goes the 30 00:01:46,267 --> 00:01:50,787 Speaker 3: points for each event changes after that. The single saw, well, 31 00:01:50,827 --> 00:01:53,307 Speaker 3: I suppose theyre handsaw sort of six foot or six 32 00:01:53,387 --> 00:01:57,227 Speaker 3: ft four long crosscut saws. Cut a wheel with that. 33 00:01:58,987 --> 00:02:02,987 Speaker 3: Then it's the springboard chop where we put two boards 34 00:02:02,987 --> 00:02:05,627 Speaker 3: into a tree, climb up and then cut the log 35 00:02:05,707 --> 00:02:08,667 Speaker 3: off at top, cut all the way through from one side, 36 00:02:08,707 --> 00:02:11,907 Speaker 3: and sort of slash it off backhanded. And then it 37 00:02:11,947 --> 00:02:14,627 Speaker 3: all comes down to the last event, the hot saw, 38 00:02:14,667 --> 00:02:17,587 Speaker 3: which is actually triple points. So yeah, well we use 39 00:02:17,627 --> 00:02:21,587 Speaker 3: a big two stroke chainsaws to cut three wheels in 40 00:02:21,627 --> 00:02:23,267 Speaker 3: the space of six inches. 41 00:02:24,147 --> 00:02:24,347 Speaker 4: Yeah. 42 00:02:24,387 --> 00:02:26,027 Speaker 3: So the other six events and we sort of get 43 00:02:26,027 --> 00:02:28,507 Speaker 3: points for every event and at the end of the 44 00:02:28,587 --> 00:02:31,547 Speaker 3: day it comes down to who's the most points. 45 00:02:31,547 --> 00:02:33,827 Speaker 2: Throughout the day, I'm looking at some of the times 46 00:02:33,867 --> 00:02:38,547 Speaker 2: for these individual disciplines, and we're talking seconds here, Jack, 47 00:02:38,627 --> 00:02:43,107 Speaker 2: not minutes seconds. There's very little margin for era here, 48 00:02:43,387 --> 00:02:43,827 Speaker 2: isn't there? 49 00:02:45,067 --> 00:02:50,027 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure, Yeah, especially in some of those sawing events. 50 00:02:49,827 --> 00:02:53,387 Speaker 3: The most nervous I was on the night was for 51 00:02:53,427 --> 00:02:57,107 Speaker 3: that stocks or race where it's just standard points and 52 00:02:57,947 --> 00:03:00,787 Speaker 3: it's generally pretty easy for me, or it's like for 53 00:03:00,867 --> 00:03:03,387 Speaker 3: most people it's pretty easy, but when you're trying to 54 00:03:03,387 --> 00:03:07,027 Speaker 3: go as fast as you can, it's started playing on 55 00:03:07,027 --> 00:03:09,627 Speaker 3: your mind. But where you know, after you're a few 56 00:03:09,747 --> 00:03:13,627 Speaker 3: inch inch to one side, it's pretty easy to get 57 00:03:13,627 --> 00:03:16,187 Speaker 3: a disqualification which would ruin your night. 58 00:03:16,307 --> 00:03:18,667 Speaker 4: So he was pretty nervous on the night for that one. 59 00:03:18,747 --> 00:03:21,387 Speaker 2: And then we come to the sixth event, the hot Saw. 60 00:03:21,547 --> 00:03:23,467 Speaker 2: You were neck and neck pretty much with Australia and 61 00:03:23,547 --> 00:03:25,667 Speaker 2: branden Meyer right the way through. He said, a new 62 00:03:25,707 --> 00:03:28,867 Speaker 2: PB of six point four to eight seconds in the 63 00:03:28,907 --> 00:03:31,107 Speaker 2: hot Saw. You're the last guy to go, you step 64 00:03:31,187 --> 00:03:33,947 Speaker 2: up and you see your own personal best of six 65 00:03:33,987 --> 00:03:38,147 Speaker 2: point one six to snatch the title. How was that 66 00:03:38,467 --> 00:03:40,627 Speaker 2: moment or how was that sort of what were you 67 00:03:40,667 --> 00:03:45,187 Speaker 2: feeling before it? Throughout the six seconds and then afterwards. 68 00:03:46,467 --> 00:03:48,627 Speaker 4: It's yeah, a bit strange really. 69 00:03:48,667 --> 00:03:52,827 Speaker 3: Like leading into the hot saw, I felt really confident, 70 00:03:52,907 --> 00:03:55,227 Speaker 3: which is quite a good way to be, I suppose. 71 00:03:55,307 --> 00:03:59,427 Speaker 3: But yeah, like I said, the most nervous I was 72 00:03:59,627 --> 00:04:01,667 Speaker 3: throughout the whole night was the stock saw race, and 73 00:04:01,707 --> 00:04:03,987 Speaker 3: that was the second event, And after I got that 74 00:04:04,027 --> 00:04:08,347 Speaker 3: out of the way, I felt pretty confident, you know. 75 00:04:08,427 --> 00:04:10,587 Speaker 3: I started picking up a few more points and I 76 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:12,907 Speaker 3: managed to get on top of Braiden by a point 77 00:04:12,987 --> 00:04:14,947 Speaker 3: or a couple of points there. Leading into the hot saw, 78 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:17,547 Speaker 3: I was pretty confident with the hot saw that if 79 00:04:17,707 --> 00:04:20,347 Speaker 3: needed be, I'd be able to cut between sort of 80 00:04:20,427 --> 00:04:23,787 Speaker 3: five and six seconds. But all I had to do 81 00:04:23,867 --> 00:04:25,507 Speaker 3: was beat Braiden in the hot saw, and he had 82 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:27,427 Speaker 3: a little bubble. I don't know if you've seen it, 83 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:31,387 Speaker 3: he had a little bubble with his first cut, So 84 00:04:31,547 --> 00:04:35,347 Speaker 3: that sort of allowed me to, yeah, just give me 85 00:04:35,387 --> 00:04:37,827 Speaker 3: a bit more time on that second or third third 86 00:04:37,867 --> 00:04:40,627 Speaker 3: cut to line them up properly and make sure of it. 87 00:04:40,707 --> 00:04:41,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, you were. 88 00:04:41,627 --> 00:04:44,147 Speaker 2: Second last year, Jack, How much did that second place 89 00:04:44,187 --> 00:04:47,907 Speaker 2: finish and narrow second place finished last year drive you 90 00:04:47,987 --> 00:04:49,987 Speaker 2: in the twelve months leading up to this year's event. 91 00:04:52,387 --> 00:04:55,267 Speaker 3: It's the feeling and coming home being beaten. You know, 92 00:04:55,307 --> 00:04:57,707 Speaker 3: you put all that hard work and training into it, 93 00:04:57,747 --> 00:04:59,867 Speaker 3: and you gave it there. If you come up short 94 00:05:00,987 --> 00:05:03,947 Speaker 3: that travel home so you're flying I don't know what 95 00:05:03,987 --> 00:05:07,827 Speaker 3: it is, twenty four to twenty five hours homes. It's 96 00:05:07,827 --> 00:05:10,387 Speaker 3: the feeling of disappointment all the way home. I suppose 97 00:05:10,427 --> 00:05:14,307 Speaker 3: that's what drove me this year. And yeah, the training, 98 00:05:14,347 --> 00:05:16,307 Speaker 3: it's I guess that's what pushed me harder. 99 00:05:16,387 --> 00:05:16,587 Speaker 4: Yeah. 100 00:05:16,907 --> 00:05:18,667 Speaker 2: Was it the hot saw last year? Did you have 101 00:05:18,707 --> 00:05:22,027 Speaker 2: a bobble or a little little incident on the hot 102 00:05:22,027 --> 00:05:22,867 Speaker 2: sal last year? 103 00:05:23,747 --> 00:05:26,627 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was it was I could have won 104 00:05:26,707 --> 00:05:29,147 Speaker 3: it with the hot Sal last year, but I come 105 00:05:29,187 --> 00:05:31,347 Speaker 3: and Sibe would just so I had to go back 106 00:05:31,387 --> 00:05:33,187 Speaker 3: for a four fourth disc. 107 00:05:33,427 --> 00:05:35,787 Speaker 4: So yeah, with that happening. 108 00:05:35,547 --> 00:05:37,187 Speaker 3: Last year, I sort of put a fair bit into 109 00:05:37,267 --> 00:05:40,587 Speaker 3: it into that one event this Yeah, just to make sure. 110 00:05:40,627 --> 00:05:43,467 Speaker 3: And I guess that's why I felt reasonably confident when 111 00:05:43,467 --> 00:05:44,587 Speaker 3: it comes down to it that. 112 00:05:44,987 --> 00:05:47,667 Speaker 4: All I had to do was you know, deep braiden 113 00:05:47,747 --> 00:05:50,547 Speaker 4: And yeah. 114 00:05:49,547 --> 00:05:52,067 Speaker 2: When you've got six disciplines to focus on in terms 115 00:05:52,107 --> 00:05:54,707 Speaker 2: of preparing for an event like this, how do you 116 00:05:54,747 --> 00:05:57,627 Speaker 2: divide your time? Do you try and get better on 117 00:05:57,667 --> 00:05:59,827 Speaker 2: your strong events, or do you try and better your 118 00:05:59,907 --> 00:06:02,907 Speaker 2: times on the ones that perhaps are your weaker disciplines. 119 00:06:05,467 --> 00:06:09,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny say that my strongest two events of 120 00:06:09,667 --> 00:06:13,147 Speaker 3: the underhand and standing block, and going into this event, 121 00:06:13,427 --> 00:06:15,587 Speaker 3: I sort of I put those to the side, And 122 00:06:16,547 --> 00:06:18,947 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I didn't train them, but I certainly 123 00:06:18,987 --> 00:06:22,307 Speaker 3: didn't train them anywhere near as hard, and quite often 124 00:06:22,307 --> 00:06:25,667 Speaker 3: I might only cut one of them each night instead 125 00:06:25,707 --> 00:06:29,747 Speaker 3: of doing multiple. I put everything into the other events, 126 00:06:29,787 --> 00:06:33,307 Speaker 3: which was especially three events which were me weaker events, 127 00:06:34,467 --> 00:06:36,387 Speaker 3: and as it turned out on the night, they were 128 00:06:36,467 --> 00:06:37,907 Speaker 3: me strongest three events. 129 00:06:37,947 --> 00:06:40,107 Speaker 4: So yeah, funny how it works. 130 00:06:40,147 --> 00:06:43,747 Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess that's. 131 00:06:43,587 --> 00:06:45,787 Speaker 4: What feels so good when you win. You know those 132 00:06:45,827 --> 00:06:47,467 Speaker 4: events paid off. Yeah. 133 00:06:47,547 --> 00:06:51,547 Speaker 3: Do you get nervous, Yeah, for sure, you get nervous, 134 00:06:51,587 --> 00:06:54,867 Speaker 3: Like I stayed before that stocks LL race. I don't 135 00:06:54,907 --> 00:06:59,467 Speaker 3: think I've ever been so nervous before an event. I 136 00:06:59,507 --> 00:07:04,067 Speaker 3: think I trained that event so much. I probably overtrained 137 00:07:04,067 --> 00:07:07,027 Speaker 3: a little bit and I started, yeah, started losing a 138 00:07:07,027 --> 00:07:09,147 Speaker 3: bit of confidence and started putting the saw in the 139 00:07:09,147 --> 00:07:11,627 Speaker 3: wrong place, and I was just so scared of getting 140 00:07:11,627 --> 00:07:14,947 Speaker 3: the dqu But yeah, I come out lucky enough and 141 00:07:14,987 --> 00:07:18,427 Speaker 3: manage to win that event. So yeah, yeah, getting that 142 00:07:18,467 --> 00:07:20,227 Speaker 3: one done and getting the winning that event, it was 143 00:07:20,227 --> 00:07:21,867 Speaker 3: a huge relief and sort of setting me up for 144 00:07:21,867 --> 00:07:22,547 Speaker 3: the rest of the night. 145 00:07:22,627 --> 00:07:26,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, over three thousand fans packed into watch. What was 146 00:07:26,147 --> 00:07:26,947 Speaker 2: the atmosphere like? 147 00:07:28,707 --> 00:07:29,427 Speaker 4: Yeah? Pretty good. 148 00:07:29,867 --> 00:07:33,547 Speaker 3: I'm pretty good at blocking that out, so I hardly 149 00:07:33,587 --> 00:07:36,267 Speaker 3: hear the noise, and all I sort of see when 150 00:07:36,307 --> 00:07:38,547 Speaker 3: I'm up on stage is all the lights sort of 151 00:07:38,547 --> 00:07:41,427 Speaker 3: flickering here and there, all the different lights I've got going. 152 00:07:41,547 --> 00:07:44,907 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's pretty good atmosphere, but I probably don't 153 00:07:44,907 --> 00:07:47,347 Speaker 3: take it in to the same extent as what other 154 00:07:47,387 --> 00:07:49,027 Speaker 3: people do. I try and sort of block it out 155 00:07:49,027 --> 00:07:50,347 Speaker 3: and focus on what I'm doing here. 156 00:07:50,907 --> 00:07:53,427 Speaker 2: So now you're defending champion, Will you go back to 157 00:07:53,507 --> 00:07:54,627 Speaker 2: defend next year? 158 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:58,147 Speaker 3: Well, we've got to qualify for it at the real game, 159 00:07:58,227 --> 00:08:01,707 Speaker 3: so only one person from each country gets to compete 160 00:08:01,707 --> 00:08:05,667 Speaker 3: in that event. So yeah, throughout our season, I guess 161 00:08:05,747 --> 00:08:09,067 Speaker 3: everything sort of is that one day and hopefully I 162 00:08:09,147 --> 00:08:12,227 Speaker 3: can go good enough to qualify again and get back there. 163 00:08:12,307 --> 00:08:12,667 Speaker 4: Yeah. 164 00:08:12,707 --> 00:08:13,987 Speaker 2: So when when is that day? 165 00:08:15,627 --> 00:08:17,627 Speaker 3: I think it's the second weekend of March. I could 166 00:08:17,627 --> 00:08:19,907 Speaker 3: be wrong, but yeah, it's in March sometime yeah. 167 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:23,747 Speaker 2: All right. So so just so the wood chopping season 168 00:08:23,827 --> 00:08:25,787 Speaker 2: is that is that? Is it summer a summer sport 169 00:08:25,787 --> 00:08:26,547 Speaker 2: here in New Zealand. 170 00:08:27,147 --> 00:08:27,707 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. 171 00:08:27,827 --> 00:08:31,347 Speaker 3: So everyone else is sort of coming to the end 172 00:08:31,387 --> 00:08:34,627 Speaker 3: of the season, whereas our season hasn't started over here, 173 00:08:34,707 --> 00:08:36,827 Speaker 3: so it's a little bit different for us with sort 174 00:08:36,827 --> 00:08:39,467 Speaker 3: of we've had a breakover wind or had a bit 175 00:08:39,507 --> 00:08:42,307 Speaker 3: of a break and we you know, we've got to 176 00:08:42,347 --> 00:08:47,107 Speaker 3: start training. Yeah, training from scratch, which is probably a 177 00:08:47,107 --> 00:08:49,747 Speaker 3: little bit different to other people, but that's where we've 178 00:08:49,747 --> 00:08:51,307 Speaker 3: going to train so hard at home, I guess. 179 00:08:51,347 --> 00:08:51,947 Speaker 4: Yeah. 180 00:08:52,027 --> 00:08:54,987 Speaker 2: And do you still have a deep motivation for this, Jack? 181 00:08:55,027 --> 00:08:57,627 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, obviously you had that had I 182 00:08:57,707 --> 00:08:59,267 Speaker 2: guess you call it a rock under the beach towel 183 00:08:59,267 --> 00:09:01,747 Speaker 2: of having finished second last time you've won it. Now, 184 00:09:01,787 --> 00:09:04,387 Speaker 2: do you still feel as though you'll have motivation to, 185 00:09:04,947 --> 00:09:08,307 Speaker 2: you know, to continue to strive for improvement and for excellence. 186 00:09:09,467 --> 00:09:13,307 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Moving forward to next year, I'd want 187 00:09:13,347 --> 00:09:15,067 Speaker 3: to win it just as much as what it did 188 00:09:15,147 --> 00:09:17,227 Speaker 3: leading up to this year. So I don't think anything 189 00:09:17,227 --> 00:09:18,347 Speaker 3: would change to me there. 190 00:09:19,507 --> 00:09:24,107 Speaker 2: Wonderful Well, congratulations Jack. Amazing news over Labor weekend back 191 00:09:24,107 --> 00:09:26,587 Speaker 2: here that you had become a world champion. Thanks for 192 00:09:26,667 --> 00:09:28,547 Speaker 2: joining us this afternoon, mate and telling us all about it. 193 00:09:28,547 --> 00:09:30,187 Speaker 2: We'll look forward to seeing how the summer plays out 194 00:09:30,227 --> 00:09:30,427 Speaker 2: for you. 195 00:09:31,027 --> 00:09:32,907 Speaker 4: Hi, Thank you very much, really appreciate it now I. 196 00:09:32,867 --> 00:09:35,587 Speaker 2: Appreciate you joining us. Jack. Thanks indeed, Jack Jordan, our 197 00:09:35,707 --> 00:09:40,107 Speaker 2: top axmen still timber Sports world champion in the individual 198 00:09:40,147 --> 00:09:43,907 Speaker 2: event last weekend for the first time the six different 199 00:09:43,947 --> 00:09:47,827 Speaker 2: wood chopping and soaring disciplines and a winner, Jack Jordan, 200 00:09:47,907 --> 00:09:52,067 Speaker 2: ahead of eleven others in Milan, Italy, last weekend. 201 00:09:52,787 --> 00:09:55,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 202 00:09:56,067 --> 00:09:59,347 Speaker 1: to News Talk said Be weekends from midday, or follow 203 00:09:59,387 --> 00:10:00,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio