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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. My name is Darcy Walter Grave and
Speaker 2: coming up in this podcast, we're going to talk about
Speaker 2: tonight's Halberg celebrations, tonight's Halberg fundraiser. Tonight when the athletes
Speaker 2: forget about what they do to make themselves famous, they
Speaker 2: just clip on a fancy pair of pants and get
Speaker 2: up there themselves a good time. Michael Burgess has written
Speaker 2: in The New Zealand Herald about how this event, the
Speaker 2: ceremony can be tweaked. It joins us to talk about
Speaker 2: that shortly. I've got some opinion about the vagaries of streaking.
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Speaker 2: Alex Powell joins us digital Sport editor for the New
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Speaker 2: n Z heraldy multi sport talented writer mister Michael Burgess.
Speaker 5: Hi, Michael, how good a Darcy, I'm good mate, shining
Speaker 5: got to be good.
Speaker 2: That's it And it's a massive day or a massive
Speaker 2: night coming up for New Zealand sport. You've written a
Speaker 2: piece in the Herald around this talking about a new
Speaker 2: category to recognized excellent and big leagues feel that is
Speaker 2: lacking and the Halbergs maybe needs to be tweaked. So
Speaker 2: first up, talk us through what needs to happen. Do
Speaker 2: you think to bring it kicking and screaming into twenty
Speaker 2: five and beyond.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's kind of the summary, Dars. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: I love the Halbergs. There's such an important part of
Speaker 5: the sporting landscape. We've grown up watching them, look forward
Speaker 5: to them every year. But it just needs to become
Speaker 5: a bit more relevant and for me, I'll be thinking
Speaker 5: about this for quite a few years. But the penny
Speaker 5: dropped when I was having a look at Chris Wood.
Speaker 5: We all know what he's done this past year in
Speaker 5: the Premier League has been incredible. Is the talk of England,
Speaker 5: let alone New Zealand for everything he's done. But it's
Speaker 5: not you And he's been doing amazing things for seven
Speaker 5: or eight years and this is the first time he's
Speaker 5: been a finalist. So it's just occurred to me, you know,
Speaker 5: how can how is there not a way to recognize
Speaker 5: what this guy's doing in terms of a global achievement?
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just think there needs to be a
Speaker 5: category and what you call it. My initial idea was
Speaker 5: you call it, you know, best global achievement or best
Speaker 5: achievement in a global sport. I don't know, something that
Speaker 5: might be a bit clunky, but something that just recognizes
Speaker 5: people that do amazing things in the biggest sports. They
Speaker 5: might not win a trophy or a medal or a championship,
Speaker 5: but they do things that make all of us so proud,
Speaker 5: that get everyone talking and get people around the world talking.
Speaker 2: It's global the nature of New Zealand sports people, because
Speaker 2: it has to be. How many young sports be will
Speaker 2: disappear overseas two minor leagues or smaller competition to build
Speaker 2: themselves up to a position where they can compete on
Speaker 2: that stage and then to be I suppose ignored a
Speaker 2: preference of of an Olympic sport that that's kind of gutting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard, isn't it? Because you don't want to
Speaker 5: criticize other achievements because everyone who does what they do
Speaker 5: in their chosen sport is absolutely incredible, and especially those
Speaker 5: who achieve at the Olympics or win world championships. So
Speaker 5: I'm really reluctant to criticize anyone and what they've done.
Speaker 5: It's just the judges in an awkward position. You know,
Speaker 5: the judges, what is it now the sixty second year,
Speaker 5: the judges are still stuck with this model of sportsman
Speaker 5: of the Year, sportswoman of the Year and Supreme Award.
Speaker 5: And it's very hard, I guess, to compare someone playing
Speaker 5: in the NBA or someone riding in the Tour de France,
Speaker 5: which by the way, is incredible to get to get
Speaker 5: a place on a Tour de France team, compared to
Speaker 5: someone winning a World championship shot put. You know, it's
Speaker 5: just so hard to really analyze, Okay, what's better, what's not.
Speaker 5: But I think when you're looking at the likes of
Speaker 5: Stephen Adams and Chris Wood, to me are great examples.
Speaker 5: Stephen Adams, we all know what he's done in the NBA.
Speaker 5: How long has he been there? By a decade? Does
Speaker 5: He was amazing for Oklahoma for a few seasons sort
Speaker 5: of in twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen, absolutely incredible what he
Speaker 5: was doing. He's been a finalist once in twenty fourteen
Speaker 5: in his rookie season, so it's like he's sort of
Speaker 5: been airbrush from history of it. You know, if you
Speaker 5: just wanted to Jose's gellin sport by the Helberger Wards,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't have heard of him, which just doesn't seem right,
Speaker 5: does it.
Speaker 2: There's a big focus on the fact that it's a fundraiser.
Speaker 2: We know this, This is the most important part of
Speaker 2: that that you cannot walk away from. At the end
Speaker 2: of the night, people celebrate the winners, the Supreme Award winners,
Speaker 2: the means, the woman's son and so forth, and the
Speaker 2: charity moves to one side. So it kind of has
Speaker 2: to be addressed because essentially it's still about winning.
Speaker 5: And losing exactly exactly. The charity does incredible things. Sir
Speaker 5: Mary Holberg did amazing things. He was an incredible New Zealander.
Speaker 5: Will never forget him, and I love the fact that
Speaker 5: these awards will always honor him and what he did.
Speaker 5: And yeah, you can't forget the foundation and what they
Speaker 5: do the other three hundred and sixty four days of
Speaker 5: the year, but on this night it's all about judging
Speaker 5: elite sports people and what they've done to make us,
Speaker 5: you know, so so proud as a nation. So, you know,
Speaker 5: can we really forget you know, one more example Dars
Speaker 5: this year lu Lusan Luluisan. She's obviously not in any
Speaker 5: of the categories, but you know, she sort of stopped
Speaker 5: the nation when she reached the quarterfinals at Wimwood and
Speaker 5: became the first woman to do that in the Open era,
Speaker 5: first qu female to do that in First New Zealander,
Speaker 5: you know, since eighty three. Amazing stuff, and there's no
Speaker 5: there's no category for that. It's an Olympic years so
Speaker 5: there's a lot of other great female sportswoman achievements. But
Speaker 5: it doesn't seem right, does it. But also Lulu is
Speaker 5: not in the history.
Speaker 1: Boox dissecting the sporting agenda. It's sportsfex with Darcy Waltergrave.
Speaker 2: Put them in a glass box and hang them from
Speaker 2: a crane for the duration. What am I talking about?
Speaker 2: Punishment for streakers. Yeah, we all get a bit of
Speaker 2: a laugh, have a weak giggle when some predominantly young
Speaker 2: man decides to remove all of us clothes and go
Speaker 2: running across a rugby, picture, cricket ground, whatever you'll choose that.
Speaker 2: I've never seen it in squash. Maybe that's another challenge.
Speaker 2: I don't know why people do this. I'm not quite
Speaker 2: sure what the thrillers. I'm presuming it is purely alcohol driven.
Speaker 2: But what it really is for everyone concerned is a
Speaker 2: pain in the backside. No one wants to see it,
Speaker 2: No one cares. People are interested and excited by the game,
Speaker 2: not by some fool who wants to get his Johnson
Speaker 2: out and show the world. What happened over the weekend
Speaker 2: at Eden Park proves to me that there is no
Speaker 2: place in this day and age for people to behave
Speaker 2: like that. What greats even more is the fact a
Speaker 2: couple of the so called streakers didn't even streak. They
Speaker 2: didn't take their pants off. Like I don't want to
Speaker 2: see bear naked backsides as much as the next guy,
Speaker 2: But if you're going to streak, at least streak take
Speaker 2: your pants off. That is half fast and that is
Speaker 2: a shame. Although one of the streakers staid to have
Speaker 2: quite a step and quite a turn of acceleration on them.
Speaker 2: Got to be impressed by that. But if they get caught,
Speaker 2: I don't think banning them from the ground. I don't
Speaker 2: think fighting them makes one smidgeon of difference to their behaviors.
Speaker 2: You've got to embarrass them, grab them, stick them in
Speaker 2: a small pursepex box, keep them mood, and then suspend
Speaker 2: them from a crane for all to see. That's what
Speaker 2: they need to do. Embarrass this behavior out of them
Speaker 2: and whatever happened to the stroll By the way, wouldn't
Speaker 2: it be much cooler if someone got naked and just
Speaker 2: casually wandered across the field, strolling in all their glory.
Speaker 2: Now that is a statement, streaking. It's being done.
Speaker 4: Get a new joke.
Speaker 1: The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2: Into the Chamber, we go back from a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks off. Welcome back into the digital minds Alex Powell.
Speaker 2: He is the digital editor of a New Zealand Herald.
Speaker 2: Please to be back, aren't you.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm loving it, loving being back in the chamber.
Speaker 2: That's good. I'm glad you're here. Big sports story today
Speaker 2: in the form of one Leon McDonald's got himself a
Speaker 2: new job bro Well.
Speaker 4: Yet to be confirmed, but it appears that it is
Speaker 4: all but done. Yeah, he's gone to the Western Force
Speaker 4: and a director of rugby role berg loss for New Zealand,
Speaker 4: that sort of rugby ip going up to Australia. Great
Speaker 4: gap for them and potentially for the Wallabies as well,
Speaker 4: with Joe Schmidt leaving at the end of the Try
Speaker 4: and at the Rugwitch Hampionship.
Speaker 2: Rather so, this makes perfect sense as far as the
Speaker 2: succession plan. In order to get that top job, you've
Speaker 2: got to be within the comfortable embrace of the Australians.
Speaker 4: Well, men, I don't know if you do. Joe Schmidt
Speaker 4: wasn't exactly in the Australian system, but this is helpful,
Speaker 4: right it is. It gives him a bit of a
Speaker 4: closer look at Australian rug about the players he might
Speaker 4: be working with. I think we might be the only
Speaker 4: ones insinuating that he's gone for the Wallabies job as well,
Speaker 4: but it is a very natural progression for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder though about the strength and the intelligence behind
Speaker 2: yet another KEI we coaching the Wallaboos. We know Joe
Speaker 2: Schmidt did very well, but historically it's not really worked.
Speaker 2: I get a feeling that in order to progress Australian
Speaker 2: rugby ford you need to look at the youth. You
Speaker 2: need to look at Australians. You need to get that
Speaker 2: pride back in the g what the Aussies alike?
Speaker 4: I do? But do we are we rarely thinking in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five that the national team has to be
Speaker 4: coached by someone from that nation. You look at what
Speaker 4: Eddie Jones did with an England. You look at what
Speaker 4: someone like Robert.
Speaker 2: Arren Gatland did with Wales, bad bad, bad comparison. Yeah,
Speaker 2: initially yeah.
Speaker 4: So, I mean if they might not want to go
Speaker 4: down that route Rugby, so they might want to look
Speaker 4: at someone like a Dan mckella, someone like Stephen Larkham.
Speaker 2: I'm just interested in getting the Australians back behind their
Speaker 2: team again, and I know the tumult that it caused
Speaker 2: when Robbie Deans was there and so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: I think the Aussies like having their own out there,
Speaker 2: don't they.
Speaker 4: I mean they probably do, don't they. Dave Renny didn't
Speaker 4: go to well. I mean he did do great, but
Speaker 4: they got rid of the first chance they got so
Speaker 4: they could get Eddie Jones back. I mean, who knows
Speaker 4: whether Rugby Australia. That's sort of all we can say
Speaker 4: at the moment.
Speaker 2: There's not confirmed year, but you've had Liam on it
Speaker 2: and we all know that if Liam's on it, there's
Speaker 2: a very good chance it's absolutely true.
Speaker 4: I am absolutely reading it that way.
Speaker 2: Fantastic New Zealand. He will read the story, read all
Speaker 2: about it in jidhell dot co dot in Z Champions
Speaker 2: Trophy gets underway tomorrow. She's been a while some relevant cricket,
Speaker 2: but finally it's a it's a breast it's here.
Speaker 4: Do you care about the Champions Trophy?
Speaker 2: I just want to watch competitive cricket because I've been
Speaker 2: watching all these warm up games and enjoying it, but
Speaker 2: still going. I must have been watching Warriors preseason because
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean anything even though it's any champions trophy, right,
Speaker 2: at least it's a relevant international cricketing event.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm kind of torn. I'm sure once it starts,
Speaker 4: I'll be into it, but like I mean, you look back,
Speaker 4: this is the only white ball trophy. New Zealand's one
Speaker 4: back watch two thousand. Yeah, so who knows? And we
Speaker 4: New Zealand will open the tournament against Pakistan on Wednesday night.
Speaker 4: We've already played Pakistan twice and beaten them twice. That
Speaker 4: I don't read that as good side.
Speaker 2: So we've got quite a nice stagger tournament though, right
Speaker 2: because we're playing against Bangladesh, India and Pakistan, so India
Speaker 2: and Pakistan booking and we've got Bugla Dish kind of
Speaker 2: in the middle, so I think the timing is quite advantageous.
Speaker 4: It's the kind of tournament though that one bad result
Speaker 4: can throw you out. You only play that's good.
Speaker 2: Look, you play each other once the best two teams
Speaker 2: go to the Semis. The best two teams go to
Speaker 2: the final. This is simple, and I think we're sick
Speaker 2: to death of structured competitions where it takes so long
Speaker 2: to work it out.
Speaker 4: I mean, if we're going to look cynically at it,
Speaker 4: it's just another one of these ICC tournaments that they
Speaker 4: can shoehorn and so India can play Pakistan because they
Speaker 4: don't get them anywhere.
Speaker 2: Else, ha ha, because that's all the money. And Halberg's tonight.
Speaker 2: Don't know about you, but twenty four years more broadcasting,
Speaker 2: I've still yet to be invited. It's because I'm not
Speaker 2: the biggest fan. What's the word fit for purpose? I
Speaker 2: don't think it is.
Speaker 4: Now, how do we compare sporting achievements against teacher don't
Speaker 4: you can't know?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: And saying that who are you picking to take out
Speaker 4: the top?
Speaker 2: Gone?
Speaker 4: It could be anybody.
Speaker 2: They've got a favoritism towards something about these Hallburg people
Speaker 2: that love the Olympic Games. Maybe because Sir Murray, you know,
Speaker 2: had an adventure in Olympic Games. So based on that,
Speaker 2: Dame Lisa.
Speaker 4: Carrington, do you think I think it'll be a two
Speaker 4: horse race for whoever wins that Sportswoman of the Year
Speaker 4: will also win the whole thing. So either Dame Lisa
Speaker 4: or Dame Lydia Co both had fantastic years. Lisa Carington
Speaker 4: won three Olympic Golds. You look at Lydia Kozier Olympic Gold,
Speaker 4: a major two more wins, our youngest ever player to
Speaker 4: go into the Hall of Fame, and then becomes a
Speaker 4: dame at the end of it, like you're splitting hairs dry.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's that the variety of that rundown there might
Speaker 2: give the nose if you will. But like we'll find
Speaker 2: out later on tonight, if that tickles your fancy, whatever
Speaker 2: your fancy is, and however you tickle it. Alex Powell,
Speaker 2: sports news editor from NZ to here. Thanks for your
Speaker 2: time and welcome back.
Speaker 4: Thanks mate, thanks for having me.
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