WEBVTT - 18 February 2025: Do the Halberg Awards need a refresh?

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be greetain's greetings. Welcome into this edition of The

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Fixer. It's a tunesday. It is the eighteenth February

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. My name is Darcy Walter Grave and

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in this podcast, we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>tonight's Halberg celebrations, tonight's Halberg fundraiser. Tonight when the athletes

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<v Speaker 2>forget about what they do to make themselves famous, they

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<v Speaker 2>just clip on a fancy pair of pants and get

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<v Speaker 2>up there themselves a good time. Michael Burgess has written

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<v Speaker 2>in The New Zealand Herald about how this event, the

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<v Speaker 2>ceremony can be tweaked. It joins us to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that shortly. I've got some opinion about the vagaries of streaking.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, why would you you know of the chamber.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex Powell joins us digital Sport editor for the New

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<v Speaker 2>Zealand Herald as we throw around some of the bigger

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<v Speaker 2>topics of sport today. That is a plan get amongst

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to presenting this.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the fix in other news.

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<v Speaker 2>And in some sports box pops for you all today, Ossie.

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<v Speaker 2>Rugby League Commission Chair Peter, where is New Zealand again?

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<v Speaker 2>The landis has gone full grovel to try and persuade

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump to dark in the door of the NRL

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<v Speaker 2>experience in Las Vegas. He wants the poters to have

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<v Speaker 2>a gander at the Wars versus the Sharks game. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>his pre recorded message on Trump's favorite show, Fox and Friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Mister President, we want to introduce you to the toughest

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<v Speaker 3>game on Earth, rugby league. There's no sport more brutal

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<v Speaker 3>than rugby league. Our players don't wear pads or helmets.

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<v Speaker 3>Hope to see you at the Allegiance Stadium in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Novak Djokovic has spoken on the Senate affair. They're telling

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<v Speaker 2>world Number one has had a telling off for his

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<v Speaker 2>positive drug reading, exempted the naughty corner for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months. He'll still be back though for the French Open.

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<v Speaker 2>Novak chose his words carefully. The majority of the players

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel that it's fair.

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<v Speaker 4>Majority of the players feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>There is favorism happening.

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<v Speaker 4>It appears that you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost affect the outcome if you're a top player, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have access to the top lawyers and whatnot. So

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<v Speaker 2>there and the conversation between Hiroki Sakai and the table

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<v Speaker 2>typing Auckland FC has resulted in a year long extension

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<v Speaker 2>for the Stipper. Just the news the team needs. Heading

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<v Speaker 2>into this week, Ken's Derby Flash versus the Phoenix.

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<v Speaker 5>Have we had a negotiation, negotiation or discussion from since

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<v Speaker 5>after the past of derby?

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<v Speaker 2>And there are sports vox pops of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Day, news and opinion. It's Force Fix with Dancie Valdreve.

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<v Speaker 2>Ands wll Welcome into the Fixed podcast to writer for

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<v Speaker 2>n Z heraldy multi sport talented writer mister Michael Burgess.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, Michael, how good a Darcy, I'm good mate, shining

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<v Speaker 5>got to be good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it And it's a massive day or a massive

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<v Speaker 2>night coming up for New Zealand sport. You've written a

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<v Speaker 2>piece in the Herald around this talking about a new

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<v Speaker 2>category to recognized excellent and big leagues feel that is

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<v Speaker 2>lacking and the Halbergs maybe needs to be tweaked. So

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<v Speaker 2>first up, talk us through what needs to happen. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think to bring it kicking and screaming into twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five and beyond.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's kind of the summary, Dars. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I love the Halbergs. There's such an important part of

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<v Speaker 5>the sporting landscape. We've grown up watching them, look forward

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<v Speaker 5>to them every year. But it just needs to become

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<v Speaker 5>a bit more relevant and for me, I'll be thinking

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<v Speaker 5>about this for quite a few years. But the penny

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<v Speaker 5>dropped when I was having a look at Chris Wood.

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<v Speaker 5>We all know what he's done this past year in

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<v Speaker 5>the Premier League has been incredible. Is the talk of England,

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<v Speaker 5>let alone New Zealand for everything he's done. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>not you And he's been doing amazing things for seven

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<v Speaker 5>or eight years and this is the first time he's

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<v Speaker 5>been a finalist. So it's just occurred to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>how can how is there not a way to recognize

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<v Speaker 5>what this guy's doing in terms of a global achievement?

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I just think there needs to be a

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<v Speaker 5>category and what you call it. My initial idea was

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<v Speaker 5>you call it, you know, best global achievement or best

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<v Speaker 5>achievement in a global sport. I don't know, something that

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<v Speaker 5>might be a bit clunky, but something that just recognizes

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<v Speaker 5>people that do amazing things in the biggest sports. They

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<v Speaker 5>might not win a trophy or a medal or a championship,

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<v Speaker 5>but they do things that make all of us so proud,

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<v Speaker 5>that get everyone talking and get people around the world talking.

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<v Speaker 2>It's global the nature of New Zealand sports people, because

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be. How many young sports be will

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<v Speaker 2>disappear overseas two minor leagues or smaller competition to build

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<v Speaker 2>themselves up to a position where they can compete on

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<v Speaker 2>that stage and then to be I suppose ignored a

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<v Speaker 2>preference of of an Olympic sport that that's kind of gutting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's hard, isn't it? Because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>criticize other achievements because everyone who does what they do

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<v Speaker 5>in their chosen sport is absolutely incredible, and especially those

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<v Speaker 5>who achieve at the Olympics or win world championships. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm really reluctant to criticize anyone and what they've done.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just the judges in an awkward position. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>the judges, what is it now the sixty second year,

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<v Speaker 5>the judges are still stuck with this model of sportsman

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<v Speaker 5>of the Year, sportswoman of the Year and Supreme Award.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's very hard, I guess, to compare someone playing

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<v Speaker 5>in the NBA or someone riding in the Tour de France,

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<v Speaker 5>which by the way, is incredible to get to get

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<v Speaker 5>a place on a Tour de France team, compared to

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<v Speaker 5>someone winning a World championship shot put. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 5>just so hard to really analyze, Okay, what's better, what's not.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think when you're looking at the likes of

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<v Speaker 5>Stephen Adams and Chris Wood, to me are great examples.

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<v Speaker 5>Stephen Adams, we all know what he's done in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 5>How long has he been there? By a decade? Does

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<v Speaker 5>He was amazing for Oklahoma for a few seasons sort

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<v Speaker 5>of in twenty sixteen, seventeen eighteen, absolutely incredible what he

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<v Speaker 5>was doing. He's been a finalist once in twenty fourteen

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<v Speaker 5>in his rookie season, so it's like he's sort of

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<v Speaker 5>been airbrush from history of it. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 5>just wanted to Jose's gellin sport by the Helberger Wards,

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<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't have heard of him, which just doesn't seem right,

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<v Speaker 5>does it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big focus on the fact that it's a fundraiser.

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<v Speaker 2>We know this, This is the most important part of

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<v Speaker 2>that that you cannot walk away from. At the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, people celebrate the winners, the Supreme Award winners,

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<v Speaker 2>the means, the woman's son and so forth, and the

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<v Speaker 2>charity moves to one side. So it kind of has

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<v Speaker 2>to be addressed because essentially it's still about winning.

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<v Speaker 5>And losing exactly exactly. The charity does incredible things. Sir

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<v Speaker 5>Mary Holberg did amazing things. He was an incredible New Zealander.

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<v Speaker 5>Will never forget him, and I love the fact that

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<v Speaker 5>these awards will always honor him and what he did.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, you can't forget the foundation and what they

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<v Speaker 5>do the other three hundred and sixty four days of

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<v Speaker 5>the year, but on this night it's all about judging

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<v Speaker 5>elite sports people and what they've done to make us,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, so so proud as a nation. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>can we really forget you know, one more example Dars

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<v Speaker 5>this year lu Lusan Luluisan. She's obviously not in any

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<v Speaker 5>of the categories, but you know, she sort of stopped

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<v Speaker 5>the nation when she reached the quarterfinals at Wimwood and

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<v Speaker 5>became the first woman to do that in the Open era,

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<v Speaker 5>first qu female to do that in First New Zealander,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, since eighty three. Amazing stuff, and there's no

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<v Speaker 5>there's no category for that. It's an Olympic years so

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<v Speaker 5>there's a lot of other great female sportswoman achievements. But

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't seem right, does it. But also Lulu is

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<v Speaker 5>not in the history.

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<v Speaker 1>Boox dissecting the sporting agenda. It's sportsfex with Darcy Waltergrave.

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<v Speaker 2>Put them in a glass box and hang them from

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<v Speaker 2>a crane for the duration. What am I talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Punishment for streakers. Yeah, we all get a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a laugh, have a weak giggle when some predominantly young

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<v Speaker 2>man decides to remove all of us clothes and go

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<v Speaker 2>running across a rugby, picture, cricket ground, whatever you'll choose that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen it in squash. Maybe that's another challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people do this. I'm not quite

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<v Speaker 2>sure what the thrillers. I'm presuming it is purely alcohol driven.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it really is for everyone concerned is a

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<v Speaker 2>pain in the backside. No one wants to see it,

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<v Speaker 2>No one cares. People are interested and excited by the game,

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<v Speaker 2>not by some fool who wants to get his Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>out and show the world. What happened over the weekend

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<v Speaker 2>at Eden Park proves to me that there is no

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<v Speaker 2>place in this day and age for people to behave

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<v Speaker 2>like that. What greats even more is the fact a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of the so called streakers didn't even streak. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take their pants off. Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>see bear naked backsides as much as the next guy,

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to streak, at least streak take

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<v Speaker 2>your pants off. That is half fast and that is

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<v Speaker 2>a shame. Although one of the streakers staid to have

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<v Speaker 2>quite a step and quite a turn of acceleration on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to be impressed by that. But if they get caught,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think banning them from the ground. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think fighting them makes one smidgeon of difference to their behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to embarrass them, grab them, stick them in

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<v Speaker 2>a small pursepex box, keep them mood, and then suspend

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<v Speaker 2>them from a crane for all to see. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they need to do. Embarrass this behavior out of them

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<v Speaker 2>and whatever happened to the stroll By the way, wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>it be much cooler if someone got naked and just

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<v Speaker 2>casually wandered across the field, strolling in all their glory.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that is a statement, streaking. It's being done.

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<v Speaker 4>Get a new joke.

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<v Speaker 1>The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.

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<v Speaker 2>Into the Chamber, we go back from a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks off. Welcome back into the digital minds Alex Powell.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the digital editor of a New Zealand Herald.

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<v Speaker 2>Please to be back, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm loving it, loving being back in the chamber.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. I'm glad you're here. Big sports story today

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<v Speaker 2>in the form of one Leon McDonald's got himself a

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<v Speaker 2>new job bro Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet to be confirmed, but it appears that it is

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<v Speaker 4>all but done. Yeah, he's gone to the Western Force

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<v Speaker 4>and a director of rugby role berg loss for New Zealand,

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<v Speaker 4>that sort of rugby ip going up to Australia. Great

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<v Speaker 4>gap for them and potentially for the Wallabies as well,

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<v Speaker 4>with Joe Schmidt leaving at the end of the Try

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<v Speaker 4>and at the Rugwitch Hampionship.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather so, this makes perfect sense as far as the

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<v Speaker 2>succession plan. In order to get that top job, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be within the comfortable embrace of the Australians.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, men, I don't know if you do. Joe Schmidt

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't exactly in the Australian system, but this is helpful,

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<v Speaker 4>right it is. It gives him a bit of a

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<v Speaker 4>closer look at Australian rug about the players he might

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<v Speaker 4>be working with. I think we might be the only

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<v Speaker 4>ones insinuating that he's gone for the Wallabies job as well,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is a very natural progression for them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder though about the strength and the intelligence behind

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<v Speaker 2>yet another KEI we coaching the Wallaboos. We know Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Schmidt did very well, but historically it's not really worked.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a feeling that in order to progress Australian

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<v Speaker 2>rugby ford you need to look at the youth. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to look at Australians. You need to get that

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<v Speaker 2>pride back in the g what the Aussies alike?

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<v Speaker 4>I do? But do we are we rarely thinking in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty five that the national team has to be

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<v Speaker 4>coached by someone from that nation. You look at what

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<v Speaker 4>Eddie Jones did with an England. You look at what

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<v Speaker 4>someone like Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>Arren Gatland did with Wales, bad bad, bad comparison. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>initially yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So, I mean if they might not want to go

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<v Speaker 4>down that route Rugby, so they might want to look

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<v Speaker 4>at someone like a Dan mckella, someone like Stephen Larkham.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just interested in getting the Australians back behind their

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<v Speaker 2>team again, and I know the tumult that it caused

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<v Speaker 2>when Robbie Deans was there and so on and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Aussies like having their own out there,

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<v Speaker 2>don't they.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they probably do, don't they. Dave Renny didn't

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<v Speaker 4>go to well. I mean he did do great, but

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<v Speaker 4>they got rid of the first chance they got so

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<v Speaker 4>they could get Eddie Jones back. I mean, who knows

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<v Speaker 4>whether Rugby Australia. That's sort of all we can say

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not confirmed year, but you've had Liam on it

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know that if Liam's on it, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a very good chance it's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 4>I am absolutely reading it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic New Zealand. He will read the story, read all

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<v Speaker 2>about it in jidhell dot co dot in Z Champions

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<v Speaker 2>Trophy gets underway tomorrow. She's been a while some relevant cricket,

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<v Speaker 2>but finally it's a it's a breast it's here.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you care about the Champions Trophy?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to watch competitive cricket because I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching all these warm up games and enjoying it, but

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<v Speaker 2>still going. I must have been watching Warriors preseason because

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean anything even though it's any champions trophy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>at least it's a relevant international cricketing event.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I'm kind of torn. I'm sure once it starts,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be into it, but like I mean, you look back,

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<v Speaker 4>this is the only white ball trophy. New Zealand's one

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<v Speaker 4>back watch two thousand. Yeah, so who knows? And we

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<v Speaker 4>New Zealand will open the tournament against Pakistan on Wednesday night.

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<v Speaker 4>We've already played Pakistan twice and beaten them twice. That

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<v Speaker 4>I don't read that as good side.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've got quite a nice stagger tournament though, right

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<v Speaker 2>because we're playing against Bangladesh, India and Pakistan, so India

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<v Speaker 2>and Pakistan booking and we've got Bugla Dish kind of

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle, so I think the timing is quite advantageous.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the kind of tournament though that one bad result

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<v Speaker 4>can throw you out. You only play that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you play each other once the best two teams

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<v Speaker 2>go to the Semis. The best two teams go to

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<v Speaker 2>the final. This is simple, and I think we're sick

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<v Speaker 2>to death of structured competitions where it takes so long

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<v Speaker 2>to work it out.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if we're going to look cynically at it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just another one of these ICC tournaments that they

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<v Speaker 4>can shoehorn and so India can play Pakistan because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't get them anywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Else, ha ha, because that's all the money. And Halberg's tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know about you, but twenty four years more broadcasting,

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<v Speaker 2>I've still yet to be invited. It's because I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest fan. What's the word fit for purpose? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, how do we compare sporting achievements against teacher don't

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<v Speaker 4>you can't know?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>And saying that who are you picking to take out

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<v Speaker 4>the top?

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<v Speaker 2>Gone?

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<v Speaker 4>It could be anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a favoritism towards something about these Hallburg people

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<v Speaker 2>that love the Olympic Games. Maybe because Sir Murray, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>had an adventure in Olympic Games. So based on that,

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<v Speaker 2>Dame Lisa.

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<v Speaker 4>Carrington, do you think I think it'll be a two

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<v Speaker 4>horse race for whoever wins that Sportswoman of the Year

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<v Speaker 4>will also win the whole thing. So either Dame Lisa

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<v Speaker 4>or Dame Lydia Co both had fantastic years. Lisa Carington

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<v Speaker 4>won three Olympic Golds. You look at Lydia Kozier Olympic Gold,

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<v Speaker 4>a major two more wins, our youngest ever player to

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<v Speaker 4>go into the Hall of Fame, and then becomes a

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<v Speaker 4>dame at the end of it, like you're splitting hairs dry.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's that the variety of that rundown there might

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<v Speaker 2>give the nose if you will. But like we'll find

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<v Speaker 2>out later on tonight, if that tickles your fancy, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>your fancy is, and however you tickle it. Alex Powell,

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<v Speaker 2>sports news editor from NZ to here. Thanks for your

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<v Speaker 2>time and welcome back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks mate, thanks for having me.

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