1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: It relies on Alaska, as we said, as Trump prepares 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: to mate with potent, Trump says, there's a twenty five 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: percent chance, just a twenty five percent chances meeting willand 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: and failure. But will you be able to get a 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: seas fire across the line? Is that even the goal 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: of this first meeting. Tony Warderman is US correspondent, feature 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: story and News in Alaska for US this morning. Tony, 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. First of all, what's it like 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: there right now? 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of media, as you would imagine 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: here in Anchorage, a lot of people waiting outside the 12 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Air Force base where these talks are going to be 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: taking place on Friday. I was downtown in Anchorage last 14 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: evening and there's just a lot of buzz. People are 15 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: excited that this meeting is taking place here. It kind 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: of is this prominence of Alaska hosting these types of 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: very important diplomatic get togethers that they have really a 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: long history of doing. And don't forget that Alaska at 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: its closest point is just about eighty eight kilometers away 20 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: from Russia. So it's the closest US state to Moscow, 21 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: or you know, to to Russia. And for Trump, it 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: seems that this made sense to him to have this 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: meeting here at the Elmendorff Richardson Air Force Base. 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: And we are hearing from some of Potion's paper when 25 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: the Kremlin that this is going his focus is going 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: to be very much economic. He's going to try and 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: play to Trump's you know, business ecumen and come with 28 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: a couple of economic advisors. His finance ministers going what 29 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: can we rate into that. 30 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 2: Well, there's reports that Trump himself is going to put 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: forward some sort of economic incentive package to Putin, so 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: that may be why Putin is bringing those economic advisors, 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: and he probably has a couple of things up his 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: sleeve as well to kind of tap into Trump's feeling 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: that he is, you know, this big business man. But 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: the Telegraph is reporting that Trump is considering granting Russia 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: access to Alaskan natural resources and lifting some of these 38 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 2: sanctions on the Russian aviation sector, also potentially allowing Russia 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: to access rare earth minerals in the territories that it 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: already occupies in Ukraine. So Ukraine has these vast mineral reserves, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: lithium in particular, which is used in rechargeable batteries. Trump 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: himself struck a deal with Ukraine in a mineral's agreement 43 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: just a couple of months ago, giving Washington access to 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: these mineral wealth. And also there's talk that Trump is 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: considering allowing Russia to develop these natural resources in the 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: Bearing Straight. This is that very narrow body of water 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: that separates Alaska from Russia, and it's believed that thirteen 48 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: percent of the world's oil reserves actually resides in there. 49 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: So this is an incentive for Putin to in Trump's mind, 50 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 2: take these negotiations very seriously, particularly since the russia An 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: economy has been so decimated because of sanctions. But it 52 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: also again appeals to Trump as a businessman. 53 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: Tony Trump has talked about a second a very quick 54 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: second meeting. Are people they're expecting that it could actually happen, 55 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: you know, all on one go. 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: No, that's not the expectation on the ground that this 57 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: would come immediately after. I mean Trump is going to 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: fly in on Friday and fly out on Friday. This 59 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: is a very fast turnaround for him. But he said 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: that if these talks do go well, that he would 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 2: like to broker a second meeting very soon between the 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Ukrainian President Vodimar Zelenski, who of course is not invited 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: to these talks taking place on Friday and with Putin, 64 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: and Trump said, if they want me there, I'll be there. 65 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: But his real goal here is to try to get 66 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: some sort of ceasefire in place that paves the way 67 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: for a permanent peace deal. But as we have come 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: very close to the meeting, Trump and his team are 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: continuously trying to tamper down expectations. They're calling it now 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: a listening exercise that Trump is going to go into 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: the room. He's going to really try to feel out 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: Proutin and see if he's serious. And if he's not serious, 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: Trump says that he's going to impose very severe consequences. 74 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 2: He hasn't said exactly what those consequences will be, and 75 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: of course he has threatened this kind of stuff in 76 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: the past and has never followed through. But the goal 77 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: here is to kind of get this process underway. 78 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: Tony, appreciate your analysis this morning, Tony What I'm on 79 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: US correspondent in Alaska for US feature story and news. 80 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: For more familiar edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live to 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: news Talks. 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: It be from five am weekdays or follow the podcast 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio