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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Every week, AI seems to get better and chat gpt,

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Speaker 2: how now has a new function that extends beyond the

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Speaker 2: basic inputs when it comes to the large language models.

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Speaker 2: Our textbot, Paul Steinhouse is here to put it in

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Speaker 2: normal English for us. What does it mean?

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Speaker 3: Paul? Yeah, maybe I should have just asked chat gpt

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Speaker 3: to do that for me. Shouldn't I please explain everything

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Speaker 3: you're actually doing in normal language. No, there's a new

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Speaker 3: word in the AI world, Jack that's taking storm, and

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Speaker 3: I think chat GPT is kind of leaning into this.

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Speaker 3: It's the agent, right. The agent is sort of the

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Speaker 3: next phase of this AI evolution, and it's where instead

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Speaker 3: of just you sitting there and typing something into the

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Speaker 3: thing and coming back with something, you can say do

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Speaker 3: a thing and it will go away and it will

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Speaker 3: actually take steps and think and be able to do

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Speaker 3: a whole series of tasks all on its own, and

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Speaker 3: multi step things too. And so what open aiyes now

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Speaker 3: release to these new agents on their paid plans. They're

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Speaker 3: coming to the free plan soon. But this is the

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Speaker 3: sort of thing that you're going to be able to

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Speaker 3: do right. So you could give it just a bunch

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Speaker 3: of information that could be just like PDFs or emails

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Speaker 3: or spreadsheets, all the kind of things, maybe from you know,

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Speaker 3: my documents folder at work. You throw it in there

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Speaker 3: and you say, okay, I need you to find the

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Speaker 3: narrative the insights across all of this information and credit

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Speaker 3: PowerPoint for me, right, and it will go away. It

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Speaker 3: will do it. It doesn't need the handholding. It does its reasoning,

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Speaker 3: peace and the magic. And we'll come back with that

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Speaker 3: type of thing. But the new one, the new agents

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Speaker 3: can even browse the web for you and even take

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Speaker 3: over a virtual computer and truly do things on your behalf.

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking this, would you know, this is

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Speaker 3: maybe not something you can do tomorrow, but see, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: You could take, say a photo of the contents of

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Speaker 3: your fridge. You could give it, you know, oh I

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Speaker 3: like this and I like that, give it some preferences,

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Speaker 3: and then you could tell it to come up with

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Speaker 3: a meal plan a bunch of recipes, and it can

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Speaker 3: even go away and put all that stuff into a

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Speaker 3: cart for you from your favorite supermarket.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that is now. Now it may not be

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Speaker 3: perfect and it may not be polished. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 3: is now where we're at in terms of what is

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Speaker 3: possible with AI. It's not just hey, can you do

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Speaker 3: something fun for me? It's like, no, actually need can

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Speaker 3: you do my meals? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the point is, I suppose that the stuff

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Speaker 2: is just getting better and better. So even if it

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Speaker 2: isn't perfect and one hundred percent polished right now, it's

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Speaker 2: only going to get better and better. And the more

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Speaker 2: that people feed in information, the faster it will improve.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's how these kind of that's the kind of exponential

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Speaker 2: nature of this AI progress. It's it's kind of yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's remarkable and as you will no doubt have expected, Paul,

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Speaker 2: valuations are absolutely skyrocketing for these AI companies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because people that the advancements are happening so fast,

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Speaker 3: like faster than any kind of technology we've kind of seen,

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Speaker 3: and people want to be part of it, I think.

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Speaker 3: And so Bloomberg is reporting that the big open AI

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Speaker 3: chat gpt raval called Anthropic, they're going to be doing

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Speaker 3: apparently some another investment round that could value the company

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Speaker 3: at one hundred billion US dollars.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. That is just absolutely ridiculous. What do you

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Speaker 2: think the chances are maybe we should spend more time

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Speaker 2: on this at some point. What do you think the

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Speaker 2: chances are that some of this AI hype is never

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Speaker 2: going to come to fruition? Like, can you put a

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Speaker 2: percentage number on it? Can you say, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: thirty percent of the hype is going to live up

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Speaker 2: to you know, live up to expectations in the next

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Speaker 2: decade or so.

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Speaker 3: Do you know, I mean it being completely autonomous and

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Speaker 3: taking a whole bunch of jobs. Maybe not, But there's

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Speaker 3: actually a pretty good percentage, right, I mean, I've talked

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Speaker 3: about some of the technology that we've seen come and

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Speaker 3: go over the years, like three DTV was one that

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Speaker 3: I just never understood and couldn't understand why people were

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Speaker 3: getting excited about that sort of thing, like that's never

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Speaker 3: going to happen, And then like the NFT whole thing

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Speaker 3: that was happening. This is just the symptom of an

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Speaker 3: economy trying to work out what to do with some

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Speaker 3: interesting technology. But this does feel different because, and I

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Speaker 3: say it feels different because we're not that far away,

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Speaker 3: like you can take a photo. Like all of those

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Speaker 3: things I mentioned about the recipes and doing the meal

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Speaker 3: plan is all possible today. That's not like science fiction.

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Speaker 3: That's real. It can you can take a photo and

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Speaker 3: it can interpret what the items are from your fridge

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Speaker 3: and put a list. It can take that list and

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Speaker 3: create recipes. You know. The bit that it's now doing

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Speaker 3: with the whole browser piece is really cool. Now how

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Speaker 3: accurate that is. We're going to have to put it

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Speaker 3: through its paces. But that's like the last link in

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Speaker 3: the chain. So if you imagine that's just like the

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Speaker 3: photo of your fridge, think about all the things you

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Speaker 3: do each day at work, think about all the undane

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Speaker 3: tasks that go on. It's coming for those. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that's where I think it's that's where I think that

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Speaker 3: maybe the hype is real.

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Speaker 2: What do they call it Amara's law? Right? Amara's Law

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Speaker 2: concerns the effects of technology and says that we tend

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Speaker 2: to overestimate, like the effect of technology or the impacts

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Speaker 2: of technology in the short term, but then underestimate in

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Speaker 2: the long term. So, yeah, even if just a sliver

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Speaker 2: of the AI hype kind of holds true over the

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Speaker 2: long term, we're inf some profound changes. Thanks so much. Paul.

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Speaker 2: Paul Stenhouse is our text bit with us this morning.

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