1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: AP's latest update, inflation peaks at four percent mid year 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: growth down one point six points from two point nine 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: to one point three. So basically we go for the 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: year and growth from nearly three to a little over one. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Cameron Bagri independent economists with us, is that a conservative 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: number from numbers from ASP or about where you would 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: think it should be at. 8 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: It's probably around your central scenario at the moment. But look, 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of variance around that central scenario. If 10 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: anybody can give me a sort of firm idea or 11 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: any economists in regard to how long moves is going 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: to be closed or how on this event is going 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: to last for all, we'll start to put some firm 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: numbers at the moment. But in all, honestly, at the 15 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: moment we're whistling, Dixie, how long this thing is going 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 2: to take place? 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: It called me battle hardened. But at least we're not 18 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: talking about recession. 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Oh I guess yeah, hens a your definition of recession. 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: So if you have a look at what's called GDP capita, Ryan, 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: it's still down three point four percent speak around three 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 2: years ago. So in the terms of level of GDP, 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: we're still climbing out an economic hole, and obviously the 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: ASP's forecast, which I agree with, time is going to 25 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: move backwards in the gym quarter. Now that my technically 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: not technically buying the a recession, because for to get 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: a recession you need to go back of the two 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: quarters in a row. But you've got the level of 29 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: GDP still three point four percent down from your feek. 30 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: It's still going to feel like it's pretty tough out there. 31 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: Break crude price futures before I came on this morning 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: about one hundred and twelve bucks in barrel. If we 33 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: get a headline that says boots on the ground, what 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: happens to that price. 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: I saw a headline over the over the weekend, which 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons we're seeing all the prices 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: move back up, is that your ground evasion, you've got 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: to build up the troops in the Middle East. And 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: the commentary around that was that if you're going into 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: a ground invasion, while you're talking months, you're not talking 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: weeks in regard to the how long this thing's going 42 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: to last. So yeah, let's go on in regards the 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: markets are thinking, if you look at the forward price 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: for crude oil, you know the forward price is still 45 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: what's called down and sloping I e. And six months, 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: we're expecting lower oil prices as opposed to higher all prices. 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's anybody's guest now in regard to what's 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: going on. You love the Whoshi's down and Yemen and 49 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: there opening up. What looks like it could be a 50 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: seeking potential. You choke points so that the world's on edge. 51 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: You know, I'm fiersty. I'm a little bit surprised well markets, 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: particular equities have taken this. 53 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been pretty resilient. Would you be rationing already? 54 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: I'd be at level two. 55 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Cameron Begory. Appreciate your time this morning. Cameron Begory, Independent Economists. 56 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, 58 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.