1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. That'd be if you. 3 00:00:13,493 --> 00:00:15,973 Speaker 2: Are looking for a good drop to enjoy alongside the 4 00:00:16,053 --> 00:00:19,613 Speaker 2: rugby this evening, Master sommelier Cameron Douglas is here with 5 00:00:19,693 --> 00:00:20,893 Speaker 2: his pick for us this weekend. 6 00:00:20,973 --> 00:00:22,653 Speaker 3: Hey Cameron, good morning. 7 00:00:22,693 --> 00:00:26,093 Speaker 2: Once again, you have chosen a Thomas Barton Reserve Saint 8 00:00:26,373 --> 00:00:29,933 Speaker 2: Milion twenty twenty three for about thirty six ninety nine. 9 00:00:29,973 --> 00:00:31,293 Speaker 2: So tell us about this wine. 10 00:00:32,253 --> 00:00:37,293 Speaker 3: Well, it's a hat in some respects to the French 11 00:00:37,373 --> 00:00:41,013 Speaker 3: rugby team today. Although I'm an all Black fan, I 12 00:00:41,253 --> 00:00:45,373 Speaker 3: wanted to show that we can have a wine and 13 00:00:45,573 --> 00:00:49,053 Speaker 3: enjoy with food that is from somewhere else for a change. 14 00:00:49,173 --> 00:00:52,853 Speaker 3: And I think listeners sometimes want to know what reserve 15 00:00:52,933 --> 00:00:56,173 Speaker 3: on a wine label means when they are purchasing something, 16 00:00:56,213 --> 00:00:57,853 Speaker 3: and it can mean one of two things or both. 17 00:00:57,893 --> 00:01:03,693 Speaker 3: And that is the winemaker's favorite blend or more appropriately 18 00:01:04,333 --> 00:01:08,413 Speaker 3: a barrel selections. So it's a smaller amount of wine 19 00:01:08,413 --> 00:01:11,413 Speaker 3: and fewer barrels that they love the most and they 20 00:01:11,453 --> 00:01:12,853 Speaker 3: call it reserve. 21 00:01:12,893 --> 00:01:15,533 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, which makes sense. It's kind of the reserve 22 00:01:15,693 --> 00:01:17,893 Speaker 2: the very best of the best, right, So what does 23 00:01:17,893 --> 00:01:18,493 Speaker 2: it taste like. 24 00:01:19,453 --> 00:01:21,893 Speaker 3: Well, it's a blend. It's a right bank Bordeaux wine 25 00:01:21,933 --> 00:01:25,613 Speaker 3: from Santa Million, So it's a blend of Merlot and 26 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:29,773 Speaker 3: Cabinet fronc. It's mostly Merlo these days, and it's a 27 00:01:29,853 --> 00:01:33,973 Speaker 3: wine of weight and richness. It's got that classic bouquet 28 00:01:34,013 --> 00:01:37,373 Speaker 3: of Doris plums and BlackBerry and all of these baking 29 00:01:37,413 --> 00:01:40,253 Speaker 3: spices from the use of oak, but a clove and 30 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:43,053 Speaker 3: vanilla and what I call a hint of bacon oak. 31 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,533 Speaker 3: And it's not like the oak taste like bacon. It's 32 00:01:46,573 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 3: just that some oak barrels throw a slight bacony type 33 00:01:50,093 --> 00:01:53,293 Speaker 3: character and that just gives us what we call complexity. 34 00:01:54,213 --> 00:01:54,453 Speaker 1: Nice. 35 00:01:54,693 --> 00:01:57,573 Speaker 2: So what would you choose to eat with this wine? 36 00:01:57,573 --> 00:01:58,053 Speaker 2: Do you think? 37 00:01:59,013 --> 00:02:02,093 Speaker 3: Well, I tried this wine actually in France, that the 38 00:02:02,133 --> 00:02:07,293 Speaker 3: producer's chateau last week, and I've had it here in 39 00:02:07,373 --> 00:02:10,813 Speaker 3: New Zealand, and so my food matches are based on 40 00:02:10,893 --> 00:02:12,853 Speaker 3: what I had over there and what I know I 41 00:02:12,853 --> 00:02:18,733 Speaker 3: can work with here. So that classic pork belly with 42 00:02:19,053 --> 00:02:22,373 Speaker 3: apple sauce and crispy skin with a little mashed potato 43 00:02:22,773 --> 00:02:26,533 Speaker 3: is a wonderful match. But if you like a shepherd's 44 00:02:26,573 --> 00:02:29,213 Speaker 3: pie and you're very deep into the winter mode. Still 45 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:32,213 Speaker 3: then that's again got a little mashed potato on top, 46 00:02:32,293 --> 00:02:34,973 Speaker 3: but it works rather well with all those earthy flavors 47 00:02:34,973 --> 00:02:40,853 Speaker 3: in the pie. Rich food and something quite rich foods, 48 00:02:40,893 --> 00:02:44,053 Speaker 3: you know what it is. But the you know, the 49 00:02:44,093 --> 00:02:47,893 Speaker 3: weight and richness of wine which this has needs to 50 00:02:48,013 --> 00:02:53,973 Speaker 3: have a food pairing that has equal weight and richness. 51 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:56,573 Speaker 3: I also have a vegetarian dish because I like you 52 00:02:56,613 --> 00:03:01,173 Speaker 3: know that word simplicity with food comes great with vegetarian 53 00:03:01,213 --> 00:03:03,613 Speaker 3: foods like as simple as only with lots of spinach 54 00:03:03,893 --> 00:03:06,333 Speaker 3: and lots of cheese. Spasher mal sauce works well too. 55 00:03:06,453 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you won me over, Cameron, as you always do. 56 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:12,973 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three in France was an interesting season too, 57 00:03:13,013 --> 00:03:15,413 Speaker 2: So how is that reflected in the wine? 58 00:03:15,733 --> 00:03:18,413 Speaker 3: Yeah? I did some research on the weather again just 59 00:03:18,413 --> 00:03:22,213 Speaker 3: to remind myself, and it was one of those classic 60 00:03:22,533 --> 00:03:26,853 Speaker 3: vintages where there was some inclement weather and it all 61 00:03:26,893 --> 00:03:29,453 Speaker 3: depends on what part of France and Bordeaux you were in. 62 00:03:29,493 --> 00:03:32,373 Speaker 3: But it was really quite hot through July and August, 63 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:36,453 Speaker 3: and there was some stressed vines we call them because 64 00:03:36,453 --> 00:03:41,013 Speaker 3: they didn't get enough water. But overall, really it was 65 00:03:41,053 --> 00:03:43,493 Speaker 3: a decent harvest because they had lower crops and they 66 00:03:43,533 --> 00:03:46,813 Speaker 3: needed to be more selective in what they were choosing 67 00:03:46,853 --> 00:03:49,453 Speaker 3: for wine blends. And I guess the proof really is 68 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:51,453 Speaker 3: and when you try that wine. 69 00:03:51,413 --> 00:03:53,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, very good. Okay, so you've chosen the Thomas Barton 70 00:03:54,013 --> 00:03:57,493 Speaker 2: Reserve Saint Emilion from twenty twenty three. As you wine 71 00:03:57,533 --> 00:03:59,733 Speaker 2: this week, we'll make sure that's on the new Stork'd website. 72 00:03:59,773 --> 00:04:01,693 Speaker 2: You have a great weekend, you two, sir. 73 00:04:01,853 --> 00:04:03,213 Speaker 3: Thank you for. 74 00:04:03,253 --> 00:04:06,693 Speaker 1: More from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen Live News 75 00:04:06,693 --> 00:04:09,573 Speaker 1: Talk sed B from nine am Saturday, or follow the 76 00:04:09,613 --> 00:04:11,053 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio