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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2: Equitor's Jonathan Navez leads the general classification heading into the

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Speaker 2: final stage of Cycling to Tour down Under in Adelaide. Today,

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Speaker 2: Platt is going to try and begin the position. He

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Speaker 2: comes Navez and is he.

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Speaker 3: Going to take on Plappy on the corner, because only

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Speaker 3: he's going to challenge. I've been pushed back. Navez is

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Speaker 3: going to win this, he said, I like to climb.

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Speaker 3: It suits me and there's no arguing that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: As Navez comes around the corner, gets the victor, gets

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Speaker 3: the ten second bonus, he will take the Oka jersey

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Speaker 3: to night.

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Speaker 2: Heyes.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Naves holds a nine second lead over the previous leader,

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Speaker 2: Spain's Javier Romo Kiewe. Fin Fisher Black third overall, just

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Speaker 2: twelve seconds behind the leader. Fin Fisher. Black's had two

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Speaker 2: podium finishes so far on the tour, and fellow Keey

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Speaker 2: Corbyn Strong has had three top ten finishers. The sixth

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Speaker 2: and final stages Flat twenty lapse through a circuit of

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Speaker 2: Central Adelaide, meaning the result is very much still up

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Speaker 2: in the air. Let's bring in cycling analyst Dell Woodford Dell.

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Speaker 2: Heading into the final stages, I mentioned Ken we Fin

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Speaker 2: Fisher blank third, How likely is it that he could

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Speaker 2: make up the twelve seconds and win the tour?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Jason. It'd be pretty difficult. I think on

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Speaker 4: that circuit, it's a four kilometer circuit, it's super fast.

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Speaker 4: Often a little break will go away to try and

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Speaker 4: pick up the you know, this sort of this two

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Speaker 4: intermediate sprints, which will I think they'll have some time

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Speaker 4: bonuses on the might imagine it's unless he can sneak away.

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Speaker 4: But you know, his team has also got Sam Wellsford

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Speaker 4: on at winner of the two first two stages of

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Speaker 4: the tour. He's an equal first in the points competition,

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Speaker 4: so they'll be a little bit focused to try and

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Speaker 4: get him the points jersey and hold Thin's third place.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would say to keep him on the podium.

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Speaker 4: I'll be more interested in, you know, maintaining that podium

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Speaker 4: and getting Welsford into the sprint jersey. But now it's

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Speaker 4: bike racing. A lock happened and Finn has certainly shown,

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Speaker 4: you know, the kick he put up willunger Hill to

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Speaker 4: get up to that third place yesterday and this was

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Speaker 4: something pretty special. So if he's in with a chance,

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Speaker 4: they will certainly have to watch him in the closing

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Speaker 4: stages for sure, because he will be trying. I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: Where is fin Fisher black and in his career arc

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Speaker 2: at the moment, Dell is he give us a bit

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Speaker 2: of an insight to where he is in his pro

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Speaker 2: cycling career right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 4: I think he's just ready to step up another level.

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Speaker 4: We saw him take some victories last year and he

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Speaker 4: was in the part of the OA E team. With

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Speaker 4: Tadipagarcher moving to the new super team Red Bull, he'll

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Speaker 4: get some more opportunity and it's great they've given it

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Speaker 4: to him so early in the season, so they're obviously

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Speaker 4: looking for him to target some of the early season races.

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Speaker 4: I haven't looked at his program going forward, Jason, but

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Speaker 4: he's a huge talent. He's ready, I think too well.

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Speaker 4: He already has taken on some of the best in

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Speaker 4: the world, and I really think we'll see him step

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Speaker 4: up again this season and next season. You know, everything

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Speaker 4: goes his way and you need a little bit of luck.

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Speaker 4: You need to get starts in the right races. Be

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Speaker 4: injury free at the right time. But we know what

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Speaker 4: he can do. We've seen it since he was a

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Speaker 4: junior and just just seeing him race this week, the

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Speaker 4: on the best appitour down Under I think is trajectory's

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Speaker 4: heading in the right direction for an years.

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Speaker 2: Yet, Yeah, that's great to hear. He's not the only

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Speaker 2: key we of course on the tour. I mentioned Corbyn Strong,

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Speaker 2: but others as well. Who else among the key we

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Speaker 2: riders have impressed you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? The big isn't it? You know, writers and a

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Speaker 4: the North Boys high so we'll always claim him. I think, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's hard. It's the first race of the year. Who's

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Speaker 4: impressed Lawrence Pith, he's done a good job, you know,

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Speaker 4: looking after fim Pisha Black and that red Ball team,

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Speaker 4: particularly yesterday when it's split him in the cross ones,

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Speaker 4: how how quickly a race can. I think he's read

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Speaker 4: He's nuggety on the climbed, very smart bike rider. I've

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Speaker 4: Ali Babihani and showing great form early in the season,

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Speaker 4: as you said with the Metro, with a number of

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Speaker 4: better as the season goes on as well, and I

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Speaker 4: think he'll bring us some a big victory. Aaron Gates

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Speaker 4: stepping up. I think Gate will be a good chance

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Speaker 4: this afternoon, riding for the first time in the World

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Speaker 4: this afternoon. And Hut trying to go for it for

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Speaker 4: Dean Smith with his experience, Campbell stewartt George Bennett doing

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Speaker 4: a good job for Israel Premier Tech trying to set

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Speaker 4: go their way. So all our riders are performing really

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Speaker 4: for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Just back to a funfiicial black then. With regards to

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Speaker 2: last year. Could a podium here help him into a

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Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be in the Tour de France

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Speaker 4: lots of things can change. So he would be on

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Speaker 2: So this is the first real hit out of the

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Speaker 2: How much of a bearing does this race have when

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit just to see how they might

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Speaker 4: work together. You don't know what the directors might be

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Speaker 4: looking for, you know, like brianco Card rights for Cofit

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Speaker 4: this he is certainly going to be one of their

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Speaker 4: There's a few opportunities for sprinters this year. So teams

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Speaker 4: the Gerard Talia, and a lot of the writers that

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Speaker 4: training for pairing for the younger riders and the writers

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Speaker 4: Spring Classics. He'll be using this race doing all the

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Speaker 4: he's using that to build a big engine to have

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Speaker 2: For a while. You mentioned George Bennett there before. He's

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Speaker 2: he's done so well. Still riding of course, but this

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Speaker 2: next generation seems to be coming through. Now we've mentioned

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Speaker 4: Well looking right, aren't they really like if you look

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Speaker 4: at it? You know? We've also Michael Binki's little he's

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Speaker 4: the start line of the World Champs or that. If

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Speaker 4: Gaty hasn't. But you know the other guy in Campbell show,

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Speaker 4: you know pretty much George and the guys are their pathies.

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Speaker 4: They've done it through the road. You know, they've gone there,

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Speaker 4: they've done the hard yards and taken their opportunities on

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Speaker 4: the next generation coming through with seeing you know, the

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Speaker 4: at that level, it means teams start to think about, now,

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Speaker 4: I wonder what other New Zealanders might be available, so

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Speaker 4: they start to sort of spread the net a little wider.

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Speaker 4: And then of course with all the swift and online

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Speaker 4: they keeping an eye on Max. You never know who

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Speaker 2: Looking globally, the Tour de France always jumps out, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and twelfth edition this year, starting on the

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Speaker 2: fifth of July in Lelle and finishing up in Paris

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Speaker 2: obviously later in the month. What sort of storylines do

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Speaker 2: you expect to be written in the Tour de France

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Speaker 2: this year? I guess what I'm asking again. Anyone beat

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Speaker 4: Jonis, Singer Guard possibly, But outside of that, it's it's

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Speaker 4: a race for third place on the podium. Of those

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Speaker 4: a lot can happen. But where we sat right now,

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Speaker 4: Jason it's super hard to see anybody taking them on.

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Speaker 4: They just seem to be a whole level above it.

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Speaker 4: It's another tour with a lot of climbs. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: I don't see anyone pushing those two riders out. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: We saw even go Guard pushing Taddy Pagaza last year

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Speaker 4: coming off a horrendous injury. So you know, both of

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Speaker 4: those going into the tour peak form. I think we'll

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Speaker 4: see some battle royals in the mountains, throw rint oven

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Speaker 4: A Poland there as well, But I think they're all

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Speaker 2: Good Man, Dal always enjoy chatting cycling with you. We'll

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Speaker 2: keep an eye out for fin Fisher Black this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he can finish on the podium. Thanks as always

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Speaker 2: for taking the time for a chat.

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Speaker 4: Pleasure Jason anytime.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all the best, mate, Dell Wood for there

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Speaker 2: our cycling analyst are fairly familiar voice to cycling fans

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Speaker 2: and yeat. Fin Fisher Black is in third place, twelve

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Speaker 2: seconds behind the leader Ecuadors Jonathan Navez as they head

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Speaker 2: into the final stage of Cycling's Tour down Under in Adelaide.

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Speaker 2: Sixth and final stage is flat twenty laps through a

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Speaker 2: Dell says, is a little bit difficult to make up

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Speaker 2: in a stage like that, but anything can happen and

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Speaker 2: I finish on the podium would be a great way

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Speaker 2: to start the year for fin Fisher Black Adam Nelson

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Speaker 2: pretty impressive cycling family with sister Neve also doing great

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