1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,413 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:14,613 Speaker 2: They'd be seven to eleven on News Talks. He'd be 4 00:00:14,653 --> 00:00:17,453 Speaker 2: a man in the Gardener's Rude Climb past. He's here 5 00:00:17,493 --> 00:00:18,693 Speaker 2: today the Rude. 6 00:00:19,013 --> 00:00:22,813 Speaker 3: Cure Jack and also congratulations will behalf of Julie and myself. 7 00:00:23,093 --> 00:00:24,293 Speaker 3: It's absolutely beautiful. 8 00:00:24,413 --> 00:00:26,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. Yeah, Well, we've got a bit of 9 00:00:26,653 --> 00:00:30,653 Speaker 2: a theme on the show this morning. Great breeding is 10 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:35,653 Speaker 2: the theme and from the time Household to the Client 11 00:00:35,733 --> 00:00:38,253 Speaker 2: past garden and monarch butterflies. 12 00:00:38,773 --> 00:00:42,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how they get born and all bit. I 13 00:00:42,533 --> 00:00:44,693 Speaker 3: don't know, I just feeling this might come up one 14 00:00:44,733 --> 00:00:48,613 Speaker 3: day and there it is. Yeah. You know, you know, 15 00:00:48,853 --> 00:00:50,733 Speaker 3: we all know about the monic butterflies and all that 16 00:00:50,773 --> 00:00:54,413 Speaker 3: sort of stuff, and they they they have all sorts 17 00:00:54,453 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 3: of troubles when they're in your garden. I mean, sometimes 18 00:00:57,053 --> 00:01:00,853 Speaker 3: you have not enough food. It's talking about food, you 19 00:01:00,893 --> 00:01:03,733 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And you know, we we have 20 00:01:03,853 --> 00:01:06,293 Speaker 3: these things growing as cut to pillars on swamp club 21 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 3: for instance, or a range of different Asclepias species which 22 00:01:11,093 --> 00:01:14,133 Speaker 3: are actually quite beautiful. But when they run out of food, 23 00:01:14,413 --> 00:01:18,413 Speaker 3: that's when things get really tricky. So a lot of 24 00:01:18,413 --> 00:01:20,133 Speaker 3: people ask what do you do when you haven't gotten 25 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:22,253 Speaker 3: a food. Well, first of all, make sure you don't 26 00:01:22,293 --> 00:01:26,413 Speaker 3: get too many caterpillars, you know, avoid that sort of 27 00:01:26,413 --> 00:01:30,373 Speaker 3: stuff chet. And the way is that the female monic 28 00:01:30,413 --> 00:01:33,733 Speaker 3: butterflies lay egg after egg after egg on one plant. 29 00:01:34,173 --> 00:01:37,133 Speaker 3: And if you say a plant maybe a meter or 30 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:40,653 Speaker 3: so tall, that could have maybe only five caterpillars or 31 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:43,173 Speaker 3: six to make them go to the end. 32 00:01:43,053 --> 00:01:46,253 Speaker 2: Of their life size because they are of course hungry. 33 00:01:46,493 --> 00:01:47,733 Speaker 2: Hungry caterpillars. 34 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:50,533 Speaker 3: Well, you think you've got a sun that's hungry, you 35 00:01:50,613 --> 00:01:52,893 Speaker 3: wait till he grows up as a boy. I know 36 00:01:53,013 --> 00:01:57,493 Speaker 3: how that works. But in order to avoid getting too 37 00:01:57,533 --> 00:02:00,653 Speaker 3: many caterpillars on your plants, for instance, I keep my 38 00:02:00,733 --> 00:02:05,093 Speaker 3: caterpillars inside the tunnel has so no female monarch can 39 00:02:05,133 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 3: get in and lay more egg on that particular plant. 40 00:02:08,693 --> 00:02:11,373 Speaker 3: You know, I tell these females fly to Auckland and 41 00:02:11,413 --> 00:02:16,493 Speaker 3: do something with your life. Go away anyway. So that's 42 00:02:16,613 --> 00:02:18,733 Speaker 3: those are the sort of things. And the other thing 43 00:02:18,813 --> 00:02:21,213 Speaker 3: that you can have you can have troubles with wasps. 44 00:02:21,533 --> 00:02:23,773 Speaker 3: So if you got your plants outside with the caterpillars 45 00:02:23,973 --> 00:02:27,213 Speaker 3: and you suddenly realize that the number of caterpillars are diminishing. 46 00:02:27,853 --> 00:02:31,653 Speaker 3: Check for wasps flying by the German wasp, common wasp, 47 00:02:31,933 --> 00:02:35,853 Speaker 3: paper wasps on that because these guys literally are predators, 48 00:02:35,893 --> 00:02:39,893 Speaker 3: the kinivores, and they will eat and destroy your your caterpillar. 49 00:02:39,973 --> 00:02:42,973 Speaker 3: So be aware of that. Good trick. Here, grow them 50 00:02:43,013 --> 00:02:45,813 Speaker 3: under netting so the wasps can't get them, or put 51 00:02:45,893 --> 00:02:49,533 Speaker 3: them in big pot plant pots, and then you actually 52 00:02:49,613 --> 00:02:53,253 Speaker 3: change their position around the house and then the GPS 53 00:02:53,333 --> 00:02:56,053 Speaker 3: system of the wasp goes like, I know that was 54 00:02:56,093 --> 00:02:58,933 Speaker 3: a caterpillar here, where the hell is it? And they 55 00:02:58,933 --> 00:03:01,293 Speaker 3: can't find it. It takes weeks for them to find 56 00:03:01,293 --> 00:03:02,453 Speaker 3: it again. Oh that's a. 57 00:03:02,453 --> 00:03:04,573 Speaker 2: Very good tip. Oh thank you. Okay, that's a year. 58 00:03:04,613 --> 00:03:07,733 Speaker 2: That's really really good advice. Love it. 59 00:03:07,813 --> 00:03:11,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, that's the one. And then finally, 60 00:03:11,533 --> 00:03:13,653 Speaker 3: and this is something that happens with the birth of 61 00:03:13,893 --> 00:03:17,333 Speaker 3: the chrysalis to a of a caterpillar to a chrysalist. 62 00:03:17,733 --> 00:03:20,413 Speaker 3: Sometimes can you imagine that you have to take your 63 00:03:20,493 --> 00:03:25,613 Speaker 3: skin off and then hook your your caterpillar toll if 64 00:03:25,733 --> 00:03:29,413 Speaker 3: you like, into the silken bed that is a really 65 00:03:29,733 --> 00:03:32,333 Speaker 3: that is circu to so lay in your garden. 66 00:03:34,693 --> 00:03:37,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew it. 67 00:03:37,813 --> 00:03:40,333 Speaker 3: I knew it and you know all about it though, 68 00:03:40,493 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 3: So there you are. So you read it on the 69 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:44,773 Speaker 3: Stuff on the Air website and you'll find out you 70 00:03:44,813 --> 00:03:47,133 Speaker 3: can hang them back up, just like. 71 00:03:47,053 --> 00:03:50,613 Speaker 2: That superb excerpt, Catching your next make for climb pass 72 00:03:50,653 --> 00:03:51,773 Speaker 2: in the garden for us. 73 00:03:52,053 --> 00:03:55,133 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 74 00:03:55,253 --> 00:03:58,053 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 75 00:03:58,133 --> 00:04:00,053 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.