1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Now I mentioned Kyle and Jackie are a moment ago 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: just before the news. This is this is sort of 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: what was going on that led to the buster. 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: You're off with the fairies with this, I do not 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: have to prove something to listen to the program. You'll 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: hear your help. Now. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: That sort of goes on as I understand it regularly anyway, 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: because it's a bit of what they would call back 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: and forward. But this is this that took a turn. 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: So she left, was coming back until she wasn't coming back, 11 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: and so she was sort of ghosting him. 12 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: So yet to speak to Jackie. I've sent a message. 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 3: What did you say? 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Just like, hey, sorry if I've heard your feelings. Was 15 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: quite a short message she did a few days later, 16 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: just saying that she just needs to take a beat. 17 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: But I haven't had any communication since. 18 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Steve Price is were this morning? 19 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 3: Mate? Well? Well well eh. 20 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a I was giving a little bit of 21 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: background before the news. It's it's hard to overstate how 22 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: big a deal this is from a business point of view, 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: in the sense that a couple of hundred million dollars 24 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: worth of contract in a publicly listed company in a 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: breakfast show that'snumber one and ethm and Sydney has died 26 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: of death elsewhere around Australia. But nevertheless it's an important show. 27 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: Lord knows what one they do now and what the 28 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: business slash market reaction is today. 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 3: Well, I think the company's probably going to be very 30 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: happy that they can get out of a two hundred 31 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: million dollar contractor whoever signed that contract should be ashamed 32 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 3: of themselves. The company's got a new CEO called Michael Stevenson. 33 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 3: I think he's heard that, looked at that, seen Jackie's 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: reaction and decided, Okay, this is our way out. So 35 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: the board meets. The board says, right, Jackie, you come 36 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: with us. We might give you another show. We'll renegotiate 37 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: your money. Kyle, you're suspended. You've got two weeks to 38 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: explain to us why your conduct doesn't mean that you've 39 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: broken your contract. And the company saves themselves two hundred 40 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: million dollars. Now that's the background to it. I mean, 41 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: they put this show into Melbourne at the beginning of 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: last year. I called Kyle after about a month of 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: doing it, a grubby buffoon, which is what he probably is. 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: The content is homophobic, misogynistic, and appalling. I can't even 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 3: on New Zealand radio at this time of the morning 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: explain to you some of the things they do and 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: say and talk about. So the country is probably better 48 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: off without it. In Melbourne, what did at rate five 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 3: percent up against the am juggernaughd on three outw where 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: I used to run the joint rates twenty percent, So 51 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: they couldn't justify the money and they've gone. I've had 52 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 3: a relationship with that show on and off. I went 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: on it last year as a surprise birthday gift to Kyle, 54 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: which nearly had him fall off his chair. Why did 55 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: I do it? I thought it might be a bit 56 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: of fun, but some of the material they put to 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: here was just disgraceful. 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: What you can't argue with though Melbourne correct, but they 59 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: are phenomenally have been phenomenally successful. They're the number one 60 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: AFM show in Sydney and there's money attached to all 61 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: of that, and that backstory as to where they came 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: from and the fact that they left a radio station 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: moved to a new radio station, took that audience with 64 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: them very successfully and that doesn't happen very often. So 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: it said, I mean it'll it'll be written about, won't it. 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a moment in media time. 67 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 3: Yes and then, and really what she now sees All 68 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: the big money contracts and big names are all gone. 69 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: John Law's dead, Alan Jones waiting to go to court 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: on charges, Ray Hadley retired, Neil Mitchell retired. I mean, 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: all of those people are on multi million dollar salaries. 72 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 3: I think it's probably an explanation point in Free to 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Wear broadcast media that the money in Australia at least 74 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 3: is no longer there and companies have just got to 75 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 3: realize that they can't pay these people that sort of figure. 76 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Does he bounce back, Kyle in some way, shape or 77 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: for it? Will he be back somewhere else? I mean, 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: he's not coming back to the station. They can give 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: him two weeks after the blue in the face. He's 80 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: not back, is he? 81 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: No? I mean the temptation by other networks would be 82 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 3: to grab him. But I think he may have done 83 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: himself in now and we shouldn't be growing crocodile tears 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: for him. An amount of money he's earned over the years, 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: he never has to work again in his life. I mean, 86 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: he's happily married, he's got a young child, but who knows. 87 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone will grab him. 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: That's interesting. What does interest me? I don't want to 89 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: bore the rest of the audience with us, but see, 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: we're on nationwide show and we're successful. And this is 91 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: not blowing my own trumpet, but we're successful all over 92 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: the country. Despite the fact that Auckland's different from Wellington, 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: which is different from christ Et, et cetera. The thing 94 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: about Sydney being so clearly different to Melbourne is interesting, 95 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: isn't it, Because of course you would argue that a 96 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: great show is a great show and should be able 97 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: to go anywhere. 98 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: All the names I mentioned, Alan Jones never worked in Melbourne, 99 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 3: John Law's never worked in Melbourne, and Kyle and Jackie 100 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 3: O haven't worked in Melbourne. I networked myself, here's you 101 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: and I'd blown our own trumpets. I was number one 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: at a nighttime in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. So you 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: can do it if you're clever like you and mate, it's. 104 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: Basically glad you got there, but I modestly prevented me 105 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: from agreeing with you wholeheartedly. Now listen, the other thing 106 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: I raised with one of our politicians just before eight 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: thirty was there's business of people stuck in Dubai, etc. 108 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: Given there are so many, if you decide to get 109 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: them out, how do you do that? 110 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: Well, the Prime Ministers keep saying he can't, he can't 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 3: guarantee that he would send in a rescue mission to 112 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: get them out, because, as you say, the numbers are huge. 113 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 3: Federal Government estimates twenty four thousand Australians in limbo across 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: the UAE. Eleven thousand Australians transit through either the airline 115 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: Emirates Qatar or Eddie had that use those three airports 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 3: in the Middle East every day, so it's an extraordinary 117 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: number of people. The PM talked with the UA president 118 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: last night. He's pushed for resumption of commercial flights because 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: he knows he can't really get enough aircraft in there 120 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: to get people out. Penny Wong, the Foreign Ministers, talked 121 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: to her UAE counterpart. Wong was assured Australian travelers will 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 3: be placed on flights sooner, safe and practicable. But radio stations, 123 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: newspapers keep talking to people who are just stranded there 124 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: in hotels and it's probably impractical to put on rescue flights. 125 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: I mean airspace is still closed at the state, So 126 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 3: what you do about those people? And as you know, 127 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 3: having been through there like I have many times, you 128 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 3: can't like in other parts. For you a stranded in Europe, 129 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: you can't simply hire a car and drive away. No, 130 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: I mean there's nowhere you can go. And so this 131 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: is going to go for some time. But at some 132 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: point I think the Germans and the English are talking 133 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: about repat flights going into places like Cyprus. There may 134 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: be an argument that you get a short haul flight 135 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: to somewhere just outside the danger zone and then you 136 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: could send in a repat flight. I reckon that's what 137 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: the solution will be in the end. 138 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: Very interesting, how is it you are still offering tax 139 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: breaks for evs. What's the matter with you? 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: I know? And it's really blown up in the government's 141 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: face because the amount of people accessing this has just 142 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: gone berserk. Now by or least three your company a 143 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 3: high endv you get a tax break because you don't 144 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: play fringe benefits tax Now the numbers on this have 145 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: just gone through the root. The government estimated the policy 146 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 3: had cost about one point nine billion. Well it's blown 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: out to five billion between twenty twenty two and twenty 148 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: three and it looks like being even more expensive in 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 3: the next financial year. No final decision has been made, 150 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: but acts in the tax breaks or phasing them out 151 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: is something that the Treasury absolutely looking at. And we've 152 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: got this crazy energy minister Chris Bowen, he ran around yesterday. 153 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: Can you believe this? Because Australia only has thirty six 154 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 3: days of fuel reserves in our country and that includes 155 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: diesel and petrol, so that's five weeks and the rest 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 3: of the fuel comes from Singapore and places like that, 157 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 3: so we could get frozen out with fuel. So what 158 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: does Bowen do? He goes, well, we should all go 159 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: out and buy an EV then you won't have to 160 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: worry about buying petrol. I mean seriously, idiot, and we 161 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: had ques of petrol station and just go with tenne bining. 162 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, all right mate, we'll see you 163 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: next week. Appreciate it. Steep price out of Australia. 164 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 165 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 3: News Talks it' B from six am weekdays, or follow 166 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.