1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Thomas Coglan, the Herald's political editors with us Hey, Thomas 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Thomas listen, have we had any political reaction to the 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: news that Sir Bob has passed away? 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, so. The Prime Minister Christopher Luxon paid tribute 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: to Jones. He's in Terneden today. Luxon described him as 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: a as a living legend, which was a bit of 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: a slight faux power I think on Luckson's part, but 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: did pay pay tribute to him as a as a 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 2: as a businessman and even even Chris Sipkins obviously Jones 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: and his later later years no fan of of of 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: the labor government uh in several ways, but described him 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: as he said there was no doubt that Jones left 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: an indentation on the political political landscape and described him 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: as a colorful character, never short of an opinion. And 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: actually Luckson as well praised, praise the acerbic wit that 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,959 Speaker 2: Jones had and and and yes he certainly hadn't acerbic wit. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: I enjoyed reading his blog for my part. 18 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: Did you read no punches pulled? 19 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know. I read not the 20 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: book I did that. I think that was also the name. Yeah, 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: are you reading this, Thomas, it was a while ago. 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: I don't think it's been updated very recently as well. 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 2: I started, this is the thing. 24 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: This is what shocks me is I went to have 25 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: a look at it today and the most recent posting 26 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: was something like mid April, so recently. 27 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, as recently as. 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: About two and a half weeks ago. He was still 29 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: And the latest one which tickled me, pink was the 30 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: working from home rackets by public servants. I thought, I've 31 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: got hive mind with sir Bob. I agree with him entirely. 32 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: Now Chris Hopkins doesn't want to have the sea beard mining. 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: What's going on here? 34 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? Interesting this one. I mean labors. Labor's in a 35 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: bit of a bind on some of these fast track issues. 36 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: Obviously one of these, one of the fast track issues 37 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: is a sea bed mining proposal. It's in a bind 38 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: because you've they have big spending ambitions, big economic growth ambitions, 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: and eventually the money has to come from somewhere. Sea 40 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: bead mining is one of these areas where there could 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: be could be a lot of benefit and it's the 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: New Zealand. But obviously Labour's environmental kind of base as 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: very opposed to it. Greenpeace was to get Chris Sipkins 44 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: and Labor to take a position on it, and they 45 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: did that today with with Hepkins saying I think it 46 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: actually a New Plymouth that that label was against it. 47 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: It's an interesting one obviously New Plymouth. I think for 48 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: maybe ten or fifteen years, New Plymouth had one of 49 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: the highest regional GDPs in New Zealand per capita because 50 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: of the oil and gas industry and it was very, 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: very prosperous thanks to that, and obviously has had an 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: impact with the oil and Gas Exploration Band that they 53 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 2: did last time they were in government. Labor does risk 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: making that mistake again if it says no to all 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: of these environmentally you know, admittedly you know, not not 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: environmentally great projects, but they are they do bring a 57 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: lot of wealth creation and a lot of jobs to 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: regional New Zealand. So they're definitely going to bind there. 59 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: It will be interesting to see whether there's any blowback 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 2: from this decision. 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: Is the point of this basically to scare away the investment? 62 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I wouldn't there is, I think I'm not. 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: I couldn't speak for Labor on that. I do remember 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: the Greens have said and the Malori Party. You've said 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: that fast track projects that have gone through the fast 66 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: track scheme if if they do not agree with the 67 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: way that they have been fast tracked, if they do 68 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: not agree with the decision, then they could they could 69 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: use their own sort of anti fast track to revoke 70 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: those consents via parliament, and that obviously would that would 71 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: scare away investment because if you're an investor wanting to 72 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: put money somewhere and an alternative government is sitting in 73 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: Parliament saying well, look, if you get your consents, we're 74 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: just going to pass the bill and get rid of them. 75 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: Then you're not Then you're not going to do it, 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: are you. I'm not sure about labor, but certainly the 77 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 2: Marori Party and the Greens have have raised the specter 78 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: of this. 79 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: So making it hard to invest in this country. Hey, Thomas, 80 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Well, we'll read the political week 81 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: that was with you about called past six. Thomas Coglan, 82 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: the Herald's political editor. For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, 83 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.