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Speaker 1: Together duples eighteen past five. Now time to talk about

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Speaker 1: one of the great scourges of modern life, which is

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Speaker 1: obviously the smartphone and the notifications that you get on

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Speaker 1: this blinking thing. According to new research commissioned by two Degrees,

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Speaker 1: half of us reckon we get too many notifications in

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Speaker 1: the day. Catherine Burkett is a neuroscience expert and with us. Now, Hey, Catherine, hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by what this does to our heads. Right,

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Speaker 1: fifty percent of us feel overwhelmed. What is it doing

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Speaker 1: to our brains?

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Speaker 2: We haven't got the time to go into that, but

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Speaker 2: in a summary, it's it's literally training us to be

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Speaker 2: on alert for I say danger, but you know, for

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Speaker 2: something We just know something's coming and you can sort

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Speaker 2: of feel it in your body, can't you if you're

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Speaker 2: anelytic hydra, Yeah, just what's coming next? Is something I

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Speaker 2: should think, there's something going to happen soon, and if

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Speaker 2: we don't control them, it can get a little bit Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it can get a little bit overwhelming.

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Speaker 1: Because the young people, in particular, thirty eight percent of

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Speaker 1: gen Z reckon they feel anxious, panicked, or overwhelmed at

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Speaker 1: the number of notifs. So that's that little feeling that

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Speaker 1: we get. Why, though, Catherine, do we not have the

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Speaker 1: I just like the common sense to turn the notifications off?

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Speaker 2: Do you indulge in a little bit of whine every

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Speaker 2: now and then? Haven't you the common sense not to

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Speaker 2: have it? Because it's fun, because it's nice, because it's

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Speaker 2: a buzz, because it's in small amounts and certain amounts,

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Speaker 2: it's great, isn't it? And also, by the way, we

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Speaker 2: need these things, and that's the difficult thing is that

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Speaker 2: they're amazing. They enhance our life so much, but yet

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Speaker 2: they can also do this. So yeah, it's it's and

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Speaker 2: it's the addiction. It's the you know, we do want

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Speaker 2: to know that people care about us and like us.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's why we're asking people to not you know,

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Speaker 2: walk away from it, but to control it, to have

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Speaker 2: a bit more control that it's controlling you. So that's

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Speaker 2: that's the idea of understanding this information.

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Speaker 1: What do you do, Catherine, What do you do to

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Speaker 1: control your notifications and your phone's impact on your life?

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Speaker 2: Actually, I mean I have notifications off, but I actually

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Speaker 2: also have trained myself not to salivate to the bell right,

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Speaker 2: not to jump up as soon as there's a ping.

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Speaker 2: If there's a ping, and I can be sitting around

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Speaker 2: with some other adults and I'll go, that was your phone,

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Speaker 2: I'm going, yeah, it's fine, I'll get it later. I'm

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Speaker 2: not controlled by it. It doesn't make me want to

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Speaker 2: go over, So I've trained my brain to not ping,

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Speaker 2: run over. Do you see what I mean? So there's

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Speaker 2: that as well, because I'm in control of it. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to control my life.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep. I love what you're doing there, Catherine,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. It's good good news. You can

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Speaker 1: use Cathern Burkett Neuroscientists.

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