1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to this Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,733 Speaker 2: For all the things that Lee Child has written over 4 00:00:15,813 --> 00:00:19,973 Speaker 2: his incredible career, all of the amazing Reacher adventures, he 5 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:24,613 Speaker 2: has never yet published an autobiographical collection, that is, until now. 6 00:00:25,573 --> 00:00:28,573 Speaker 2: Reacher The Stories Behind the Stories by Lee Child is 7 00:00:28,613 --> 00:00:31,253 Speaker 2: the first of Katherine Rain's our book reviewers Picks for 8 00:00:31,293 --> 00:00:34,533 Speaker 2: this weekend. Hey Catherine, Morning, Jack, So tell us about it. 9 00:00:35,333 --> 00:00:39,493 Speaker 3: So Lee Child was made redundant from a BBC in 10 00:00:39,493 --> 00:00:43,693 Speaker 3: the early nineties, and so the book actually opens on Monday, 11 00:00:43,733 --> 00:00:46,013 Speaker 3: September the fifth, and nineteen ninety four, and he's at 12 00:00:46,013 --> 00:00:49,773 Speaker 3: home at the dining room table writing the first chapter 13 00:00:49,813 --> 00:00:51,733 Speaker 3: of his book, and he gives it to his wife 14 00:00:51,813 --> 00:00:54,933 Speaker 3: and actually asks the very innocuous question should I continue? 15 00:00:55,173 --> 00:00:58,413 Speaker 3: And she said, yes, I like it. So these are 16 00:00:58,493 --> 00:01:01,533 Speaker 3: all of the tales of the Reacher novels. And it 17 00:01:01,653 --> 00:01:03,973 Speaker 3: describes the cut up, behind the scenes, and why the 18 00:01:04,013 --> 00:01:05,933 Speaker 3: books turned out the way that they did. And he's 19 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:08,413 Speaker 3: got and he notes about it and what he was 20 00:01:08,453 --> 00:01:11,773 Speaker 3: inspired by and context not only of what was going 21 00:01:11,773 --> 00:01:14,693 Speaker 3: on his life, but the world outside the books as well. 22 00:01:15,053 --> 00:01:17,493 Speaker 3: And so it starts from nineteen ninety nine's Killing Four 23 00:01:17,533 --> 00:01:20,453 Speaker 3: all the way to twenty nineteen's Blue Moon, and it's 24 00:01:20,493 --> 00:01:23,653 Speaker 3: that book Killing Floor that he's you know, was his 25 00:01:23,853 --> 00:01:26,213 Speaker 3: debut novel and it went on to be a pretty 26 00:01:26,213 --> 00:01:29,493 Speaker 3: big hit, and it was originally entitled actually bad Luck 27 00:01:29,493 --> 00:01:31,493 Speaker 3: in Trouble, which went on to be his eleventh novel, 28 00:01:31,853 --> 00:01:34,133 Speaker 3: And he talks about working with Tom Cruise and that 29 00:01:34,253 --> 00:01:40,613 Speaker 3: whole Hollywood experience and Persuader was his. He loved Alistair MacLean, 30 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:42,733 Speaker 3: so it was really, you know, kind of about writing 31 00:01:42,813 --> 00:01:45,413 Speaker 3: like him and that sort of thing. And you know, 32 00:01:45,453 --> 00:01:48,133 Speaker 3: it reflects on actually how sixty one hours is his 33 00:01:48,333 --> 00:01:51,493 Speaker 3: favorite of the Reacher novels, and you know, he credits 34 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:54,013 Speaker 3: a lot of success with the professionals around him, his agent, 35 00:01:54,093 --> 00:01:57,213 Speaker 3: his publishing teams, and above all his family. And then 36 00:01:57,253 --> 00:02:01,013 Speaker 3: actually the book ends with Lee Child with a short 37 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:03,773 Speaker 3: story called a Better Place, which is a Jack Reacher story, 38 00:02:03,853 --> 00:02:06,093 Speaker 3: So for all fans, you get a little taste of 39 00:02:06,173 --> 00:02:08,053 Speaker 3: Jack creature again with Lee Child. 40 00:02:07,773 --> 00:02:10,533 Speaker 2: On this book. Oh super Okay, that's the stories behind 41 00:02:10,533 --> 00:02:12,693 Speaker 2: the stories by Lee Child because his brother's been writing 42 00:02:12,813 --> 00:02:14,813 Speaker 2: the last few Lee Child adventures. 43 00:02:14,853 --> 00:02:17,213 Speaker 3: Yes, I think the last five year is it? 44 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:18,253 Speaker 2: Five, they write it. 45 00:02:18,733 --> 00:02:20,453 Speaker 3: They wrote a couple together and then I think it's 46 00:02:20,493 --> 00:02:24,053 Speaker 3: the last. Yeah, yeah, where Andrew's kind of written them 47 00:02:24,053 --> 00:02:26,173 Speaker 3: all on his own. So yeah, and it has put 48 00:02:26,173 --> 00:02:28,093 Speaker 3: a bit of a different spin on it. But I 49 00:02:28,133 --> 00:02:29,853 Speaker 3: still like I still like the tail. I still like 50 00:02:30,253 --> 00:02:32,333 Speaker 3: Jack Reacher. And yeah, he has a bit of a 51 00:02:32,373 --> 00:02:33,293 Speaker 3: different spin, but it's good. 52 00:02:33,373 --> 00:02:35,493 Speaker 2: He has an amazing thing too, where he because you know, 53 00:02:35,533 --> 00:02:37,373 Speaker 2: he came on the show and we talked to him 54 00:02:37,373 --> 00:02:39,293 Speaker 2: about it. He was saying, you know, when he writes, 55 00:02:39,293 --> 00:02:41,293 Speaker 2: he does that thing where he just he doesn't like 56 00:02:41,373 --> 00:02:45,093 Speaker 2: map out a story arc or anything like that. Right, 57 00:02:45,133 --> 00:02:48,693 Speaker 2: he doesn't. It's not it doesn't look like a mass 58 00:02:48,773 --> 00:02:52,533 Speaker 2: murderer's leer. We have all of the bits of string 59 00:02:52,653 --> 00:02:54,853 Speaker 2: and kind of fragments of bits of paper pinned to 60 00:02:54,933 --> 00:02:57,813 Speaker 2: the walls, and everything's connected. Nothing like that. When he 61 00:02:57,853 --> 00:02:59,653 Speaker 2: writes a book, he just writes a page and then 62 00:02:59,653 --> 00:03:01,293 Speaker 2: he just writes the next page, and he thinks, oh yeah, 63 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:02,773 Speaker 2: that was good, and then he just writes the next page, 64 00:03:02,773 --> 00:03:05,173 Speaker 2: barely goes back and deletes anything. It's just amazing how 65 00:03:05,293 --> 00:03:09,453 Speaker 2: his brain works when it comes to storytelling so very much. 66 00:03:10,333 --> 00:03:13,413 Speaker 3: And he crafts a story that makes a lot of sense. 67 00:03:13,533 --> 00:03:16,653 Speaker 3: And yeah, and then yeah, it is incredible because most 68 00:03:16,893 --> 00:03:20,293 Speaker 3: writers don't write like that, you know, with how you 69 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:22,693 Speaker 3: described it. So yeah, it's an incredible way that he 70 00:03:22,693 --> 00:03:24,493 Speaker 3: does it. So I think it's his TV background that 71 00:03:24,493 --> 00:03:24,893 Speaker 3: helps him. 72 00:03:24,973 --> 00:03:28,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, absolutely, See TV is good for something. 73 00:03:28,653 --> 00:03:30,733 Speaker 2: The Stories Behind the Stories by Lee Child as your 74 00:03:30,733 --> 00:03:33,973 Speaker 2: first book. Next up, tell us about Frosty by Mark Winterbottom. 75 00:03:35,013 --> 00:03:39,333 Speaker 3: So this story Mark Winterbottom starts in a very poor 76 00:03:39,373 --> 00:03:42,293 Speaker 3: suburb of Sydney and dune Side and then ends up 77 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:46,413 Speaker 3: at the racing of kind of Mount Paranama. And you know, 78 00:03:46,813 --> 00:03:50,093 Speaker 3: Mark Winterbottom didn't come from money, and actually where he 79 00:03:50,133 --> 00:03:53,333 Speaker 3: gets his start is he actually wins raffle for a 80 00:03:53,373 --> 00:03:56,013 Speaker 3: pee wee fifty motorcycle and that kind of got him 81 00:03:56,013 --> 00:03:58,453 Speaker 3: hooked on on motor racing. And then he has this 82 00:03:58,573 --> 00:04:02,253 Speaker 3: crash and his mother decided that his motorcycling career was over, 83 00:04:02,613 --> 00:04:05,613 Speaker 3: but actually he could go kart racing. And the book 84 00:04:05,653 --> 00:04:08,693 Speaker 3: actually talks a lot about his relationship with his mother, June, 85 00:04:08,733 --> 00:04:11,533 Speaker 3: and the bond that they had and you know that's 86 00:04:11,573 --> 00:04:14,693 Speaker 3: created between them, and particularly when his parents' marriage starts 87 00:04:14,693 --> 00:04:18,293 Speaker 3: to dissolve and June was actually diagnosed with breast cancer 88 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:20,533 Speaker 3: when Mark was only four, and he ends up as 89 00:04:20,573 --> 00:04:24,933 Speaker 3: her main support, accompanying to chemotherapy sessions until she sadly 90 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:28,733 Speaker 3: passes away in twenty eleven. But her struggle with cancer 91 00:04:29,013 --> 00:04:32,333 Speaker 3: shapes his childhood and his character and his connection with 92 00:04:32,373 --> 00:04:35,853 Speaker 3: his mum's really strong that actually it's almost the opposite 93 00:04:35,893 --> 00:04:37,573 Speaker 3: what it is, the opposite with his father, who is 94 00:04:37,613 --> 00:04:40,893 Speaker 3: incredibly strange from his father, who was a speedway racer 95 00:04:40,973 --> 00:04:44,293 Speaker 3: guy called Jim, and he's never really spoken about it publicly, 96 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:46,293 Speaker 3: and he speaks about it, I think quite candidly in 97 00:04:46,333 --> 00:04:48,573 Speaker 3: this book, you know, and the fact that they never 98 00:04:48,893 --> 00:04:52,133 Speaker 3: reconcile before his father's death in twenty twenty from leukemia. 99 00:04:52,293 --> 00:04:56,693 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a kind of interesting person that Mark 100 00:04:56,853 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 3: is is shaped. But then of course there's the motor 101 00:04:59,013 --> 00:05:02,213 Speaker 3: racing and he won ten Australian cart Championships, twenty five 102 00:05:02,253 --> 00:05:05,213 Speaker 3: state championships and there because he moves to Formula Ford 103 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:09,733 Speaker 3: Anyone's Bathur in thirteen alongside Kywe Stephen Richards and he 104 00:05:09,813 --> 00:05:13,573 Speaker 3: won the twenty fifteen Supercars Championship. But actually he also 105 00:05:13,613 --> 00:05:15,973 Speaker 3: talks about the politics of the supercars and what went 106 00:05:16,013 --> 00:05:18,533 Speaker 3: on behind the scenes, and he's pretty candid about his 107 00:05:18,653 --> 00:05:22,813 Speaker 3: racing life. He certainly doesn't shy away from talking about people. 108 00:05:22,893 --> 00:05:25,333 Speaker 3: He talks about the people that really helped him, but 109 00:05:25,813 --> 00:05:30,013 Speaker 3: he also talks about his rivals, particularly Mark Larkham, you know, 110 00:05:30,173 --> 00:05:32,653 Speaker 3: with his exit from the TV Stars team in two 111 00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:37,853 Speaker 3: thousand and five, his rivalry with Jamie Wincup. He really 112 00:05:37,933 --> 00:05:42,453 Speaker 3: sort of saves a lot of his chat about Craig Lownds, 113 00:05:42,493 --> 00:05:45,453 Speaker 3: who really gets some sharp critique, and their battles in 114 00:05:45,493 --> 00:05:48,053 Speaker 3: twenty fourteen and fifteen, and then of course this is 115 00:05:48,173 --> 00:05:51,013 Speaker 3: very recent exit from Team eighteen. And the book has 116 00:05:51,093 --> 00:05:54,333 Speaker 3: lots here whether you're a Mark Winterbottom fan or not, 117 00:05:54,653 --> 00:05:57,933 Speaker 3: it's got lots about motor racing and full performance and 118 00:05:58,333 --> 00:06:01,053 Speaker 3: some really good stories. And yeah, I think I think 119 00:06:01,093 --> 00:06:03,653 Speaker 3: those motor racing fans will find some good things in 120 00:06:03,653 --> 00:06:04,093 Speaker 3: this book. 121 00:06:04,133 --> 00:06:06,053 Speaker 2: And I can tell that you are one of them, Catherine, 122 00:06:06,373 --> 00:06:08,573 Speaker 2: I am actually yeah, I know. No, it's very good. 123 00:06:08,653 --> 00:06:11,613 Speaker 2: You're full of surprises. It's great. So that is The 124 00:06:11,653 --> 00:06:14,213 Speaker 2: Stories Behind Sorry. That is Frosty by Marke Winterbottom. Your 125 00:06:14,213 --> 00:06:16,053 Speaker 2: first book is of course The Stories Behind the Stories 126 00:06:16,053 --> 00:06:18,133 Speaker 2: by Lee Child. Both of those will be on the 127 00:06:18,173 --> 00:06:19,733 Speaker 2: news Talk ZEDB website. 128 00:06:20,413 --> 00:06:23,493 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 129 00:06:23,613 --> 00:06:26,773 Speaker 1: to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 130 00:06:26,813 --> 00:06:28,333 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio