1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: early edition with ex Pole insulation, Keeping Kimi Holmes warm 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and try this winter News Talks, they'd be. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: Good morning at a six a half to five. Great 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: to have your company coming up on the show this 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: morning before six fines for shoplifting. How will they actually work? 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: And practice? Will speak to Wilworst about that heat wave 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: in Europe. Big heat wave in Europe. Gavin gray Are, 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: UK Europe correspondent. The schools closed, eighteen hundred schools closed 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: in France overnight. Libraries here are ordering AI books, that is, 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: books authored by AI in the library, which we will 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: apparently then rent. Spending cuts for defense? How do you 13 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: marry up spending cuts for defense with the massive announcements 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: of billions and billions and squillions of dollars going towards defense. 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: We'll look at that in about ten minutes time here 16 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: on News Talks. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: He'd be. 18 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: The agenda Wednesday, the second of July. After ours of stalemate, 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: US senators have now passed Trump's big beautiful bill. Now 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: it faces another tough fight in the House that goes 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: back to the House. Meanwhile, Musk Trump back at it. 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: Musk says he might run against Trump at the next election. 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: We might have to put those Elan Belji's the monster 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: that has that might have to go back and eat eline. 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 4: Would't that be fair about now? 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Petonteg Shinawat. This is Thailand's Constitutional Court has suspended the 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: Prime Minister, who has come under mounting pressure to resign 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,919 Speaker 2: over a leaked phone call with the former Cambodian leader. 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: Pultn't send the clip in which she called him uncle 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: and criticized the taime military commander spike public anger and 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: outrage in a petition for her dismissal. 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 5: She has responded saying she'll accept the judgment of the court. 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 5: She said she was only doing what she thought was 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: in the best interests of the country, but she has 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 5: fifteen days to present her case and she has confidence 36 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: that the court will understand. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: The spectacle in New York City over the Diddy trial continues. 38 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: A load of influencers and live streamers have spent weeks 39 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: live streaming outside of the courthouse to their fans, and 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 2: this continues this morning. 41 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: We do want to get closer and understand what this 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: case is going to be, you know, I mean, what 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: is it going to wrap up to be how. 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 4: Many followers did you have at the start of this 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 4: and versus how many you have now? 46 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: I had about maybe like five thousand or soul right 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 2: now I got about sixteen thousand. 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on the early edition with expol insulation keeping 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: chili O's warm and dry this winter news talks. 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 2: That'd be yeah, interesting, that, isn't it. I mean, that's 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 2: pretty much what journalists would have done, you know, in 52 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: the good old days. I suppose stand outside of a 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: court and report on what's going on inside there. That 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,399 Speaker 2: would be the job of a journalist. But now it's 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: live streamers. That's just the way the world goes, I suppose, 56 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: isn't it. Hey, great news yesterday. This is for Skyline Enterprises, 57 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: and I just think it's we're at that time in 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the economic cycle you have to stop and take the 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: wins and not blow them up, but you you've got 60 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: to glow up the wins. I think, so we'll do 61 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: a bit of that this morning. This is the gondola 62 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: luge operator. Skyline Enterprise is doubling its pre tax profit. 63 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: Strong tourism rebound in Queenstown. 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: Now. 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: I know that hasn't gone everywhere, but you've got to, 66 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: as I say, take the wins where you can get them. 67 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 2: So overall, a profit before tax more than doubling, rising 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to twenty eight point seven million dollars last year. So 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 2: from twenty eight point seven last year to sixty one 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 2: million in twenty twenty five. Domestic operations this is interesting 71 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: because they've got gondolas and loges and places like Japan. 72 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: But domestic operations recording total revenue of one hundred and 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 2: seventeen million dollars for the year, up nineteen percent on 74 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. One point four million gondola trips in 75 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: New Zealand and three point two million on the louge. 76 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: That's spread across both Rotru and Queenstown. So that's great news. 77 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: And I'll update you. We had another business confidence survey out, 78 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 2: so I looked at you on that shortly just gone 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: ten minutes after five. Now coming up next to the 80 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: defense force. So on the one hand, we're getting told 81 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: billions going into defense, don't worry about it. On the 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: other hand, we're hearing about a hundred billion dollars in cuts. 83 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: So how does that marry out one hundred million, I 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: should say, and cuts? How does that marry out. We'll 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: look at it next. 86 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early 87 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and X full insulation keeping Kiwi 88 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: Holmes warm and dry this winter. 89 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: News Talks B five after five on News Talks there 90 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: b Ryan, I reckon shoplifting will increase even though the 91 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: government's making these changes. No risk of jail or conviction. 92 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 2: How much is the fine? I'm curious there is actually 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: to this text that there is the risk of longer 94 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: prison sentences theft. The maximum penalty will be one year 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: in prison if the value is less than two thousand dollars. 96 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars or less in value of items stolen, 97 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: the fine will be up to five hundred dollars. If 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 2: the value of the stolen goods was below five hundred dollars. 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: So presumably if somebody steals something worth three hundred dollars, 100 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: you could find them three hundred dollars I'm assuming, So 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: up to five hundred, you get up to five hundred. Now, 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 2: anything one thousand dollars is up to one thousand dollars 103 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: if the stolen goods were worth more than five hundred dollars, 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: so you'd almost be better off stealing something worth fifteen 105 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: hundred dollars. But of course then you get yourself into 106 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: further trouble with the potential for an ankle bracelet or 107 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 2: time and the slammer. Thirteen after five, We've got fresh 108 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: warnings this morning of reputational damage to our Defense Force 109 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: of planned cost cutting goes ahead the PSA. This is 110 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 2: the Union sounding the alarm after the Defense Force revealed 111 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty million dollar budget shortfall for twenty 112 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: four to twenty five and a letter to the union. 113 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 2: The Defense Force confirmed it's already scraped together one hundred 114 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: million dollars in savings, but says more enduring cuts maybe 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: needed to be locked in because not everything can be reversed. 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 2: Hayden Ricketts is retired lieutenant colonel at Mission Home Front 117 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: with US this morning. Hayden, good morning, Yeah, good morning, Royan. 118 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: How can you just explain this. We're hearing about billions 119 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: of dollars going into the Defense Force, biggest investment ever, 120 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 2: doubling to two percent of GDP. How why are we 121 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: talking about cuts? 122 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 6: There is a really good question, Ryan. Against the context 123 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 6: of twelve billion dollar investment over the next four years, 124 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 6: it would appear that cutting the civilian workforce right at 125 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 6: the moment would not be the right thing to do. 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 6: If we paint the context as it alluded to, one 127 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 6: hundred and thirty million dollars was meant to be saved. 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 6: They found one hundred from internal savings, leaving about thirty. Now, 129 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 6: when the PSA kicked us off in sort of like 130 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 6: Tober last year, the Defense forces know there's three hundred 131 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 6: and seventy four positions which we're going to be cut 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 6: or acts. And actual fact is there's eighty people that 133 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 6: are looking at being effected of losing their jobs. And 134 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 6: that's significant for eighty people. But the money they're going 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: to save from cutting those eighty people isn't going to 136 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 6: be the money that they want to save. The stock 137 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 6: the juice is not going to be worth to squeeze 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: on this one. If you have a look at the 139 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 6: amount of money that's coming down the investment pipeline, the 140 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 6: Defense Force is going to need people in the staff 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 6: areas to do the introduction to service, to do the 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 6: staff work, to do the business cases in the papers 143 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 6: for cabinet for that money. Yes, now, in some cases 144 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 6: the people they're looking at cutting are the people that 145 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 6: do that. 146 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: Work well, do both We know that the dreat rest 147 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: of squeeze, But do we know that Hayden, because the 148 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: defense forces come out and said they are not telling 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: us specifically what's being cut, So how do we know 150 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: they're cutting the bits will need down the track. 151 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: Or if you can do maths, you need more people 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 6: to do more work. You've got more investment coming down 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 6: the pipeline. So it doesn't follow that you cut your 154 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 6: personnel workforce at the time when you need them to 155 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 6: do their investments. 156 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but not everybody's going to be doing worthwhile stuff. 157 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: I mean did the Defense force? The civilian arm I'm 158 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: talking about here is like any other department has people 159 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: doing things that actually aren't important, you know, So are 160 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: there people doing unimportant things that we're getting rid of? 161 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: And the answer is we just we don't really know. 162 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 6: No. So on the uniform side, the armies short of 163 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 6: a thousand people from the mandated number of fifty one 164 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 6: fifty or five thousand. Air Force is short by two 165 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty, Navy short by a similar amount. We've 166 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 6: seen what happens when people when there's not enough suitably 167 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 6: qualified and experienced people to do the work. You think ships. 168 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: So to suggest that there are. 169 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 6: People in there that aren't doing the right work, I 170 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 6: think that's that's a preposterous statement and quite insulting. And 171 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 6: if there's any reputational damage that comes to the Defense Force, 172 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 6: it's from people making statements like that. Have a look 173 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 6: at what our Defense Force is doing in the Indian 174 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: Ocean with the deployment of Takaha. We've just deployed more 175 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 6: Defense Force people to Nelson to help out. 176 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 7: The force helps out, But these people are no no, no, no, no, no, 177 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 7: no no. 178 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 2: No that I'm not talking about the Defense Force personnel 179 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: who are being deployed to these as. I'm talking about well, 180 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: you know pen pushes in Wellington? Is there is there 181 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: is there a problem with the back office in Wellington 182 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: because that is what the government says that they're trying 183 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: to where they're trying to shift the money from. 184 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 6: So those policy statements came out from the previous government. 185 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 6: Remember the large back office cuts that got made to 186 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 6: the public sector. These decisions got made under that context 187 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 6: in October last year. But has the situation changed, I 188 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 6: would argue yes, it has. Is the global security environment changes, 189 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: as we've seen ships in the tesmen sea as we've 190 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 6: shunk our own ships on a good day in the 191 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 6: long place in the SOUTHUA specific now we're going to 192 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 6: need people to do that to support these investments. And 193 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 6: right now that the context has changed, the situation has changed, 194 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 6: and I don't think the juice is worth to squeeze 195 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 6: on these particular work for savings. 196 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, howdn't appreciate your perspective this morning. Hayden Ricketts, 197 00:09:55,679 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 2: a retired lieutenant colonel, Mission Home Front on cuts to 198 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: to what the government says are back office rolls at NZDF. 199 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: It's just gone eighteen minutes after five. News talk s 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 2: head be coming up next. We're talking while we get 201 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: to our reporters after half five. Also, Kim Jong Un 202 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 2: potentially finally acknowledging the fact that some of his troops 203 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: have gone to Russia. 204 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: That story ahead, Get ahead of the headlines on a 205 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: bary edition with Ryan Branch and x Fole Insulation keeping 206 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and dry this winter News Talks a'd. 207 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: Be five twenty on News Talk s headb so in. 208 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: This is a Wall Street Journal report saying that for 209 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: the first time, Kim Jong un has publicly at least 210 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: appeared to publicly acknowledge the fact that North Korean troops 211 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: have been fighting alongside the Russians in Ukraine. There have 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 2: been some coffins returned, and at the pyeong Yang Gala 213 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: there was a performance and photographs showed Kim wearing a 214 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: winter jacket Morning Soldiers and standing among a row of 215 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: caskets that appeared to be placed at the airport tarmac. 216 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,479 Speaker 2: Kim was photograph placing both hands on top of the caskets, 217 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: straight with North Korea's red, blue and white national flag. 218 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 2: He never acknowledged the fact that their troops were going 219 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: to help the Russians until now twenty one after five. 220 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, if you listen to the show yesterday, you 221 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: know I talked a lot about AI and AI taking 222 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: over our lives and taking over our jobs. Well here's 223 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: another prime example of this. Turns out quite a few 224 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 2: New Zealand's Live of New Zealand's libraries either already have 225 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: or are open to stocking books written by AI authors. 226 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: Laura Marshall is the executive director at Library and Information 227 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: Association New Zealand. Laura, good morning, Good morning, Ryan. Is 228 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: do you know of any AI written books in libraries yourself. 229 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 7: Yes, there are a few, but from our experience and 230 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 7: talking to library managers, there's not that many. 231 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: There's only a couple. 232 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 7: There's only a couple of supplies that even provide them 233 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 7: in New Zealand. So I don't believe that there is 234 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 7: many with the New Zealand libraries. 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: Yet would you read one? 236 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 7: I'd probably read one just to see what it was like. 237 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 7: But to be honest, I think they're just an interpretation 238 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 7: of our thoughts. I think it's just a good copy. 239 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 7: So I'm not really that interested in exploring the long term, 240 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 7: but I'd probably read one just to see what it 241 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 7: was like. 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: This is the problem, though, What if you read it 243 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: and it's good? You know? I mean, is that a 244 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: little bit scary that thought? 245 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 7: To be honest, when I use AI myself, it's interpreting 246 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 7: my thoughts, but it never comes out perfect, and it's 247 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 7: never enough to entice me to think that it could 248 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 7: replace myself or we give it the information. I don't 249 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 7: truly believe that AI could tell our stories. Especially in 250 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 7: New Zealand, we have very next stories. You have people's experiences. 251 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 7: That's doing. It's just interpreting those stories and that information 252 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 7: and I don't believe that it can really do that very. 253 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: Well yet does AI? Well, I mean, I suppose the 254 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Internet generally. Sometimes I'm surprised libraries are still going. But 255 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: then but then I walked past them and they are full. 256 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: So how do you explain that with the Internet. 257 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 7: So libraries are also community hubs. They are places to 258 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 7: meet people. It's places to go to community programs, it's 259 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 7: places to interact. They really are quite. 260 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: An amazing ecosystem. 261 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 7: They also reflect the community, So they're an amazing place. 262 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 7: But believe it or not, issues and library that are 263 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 7: actually going out. Just because someone's reading a book online 264 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 7: or on their iPad, it doesn't mean they're not reading. 265 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 7: So issues are just going through the through the roofs. 266 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 7: Libraries have never been more successful. They're just an amazing ecosystem, 267 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 7: an amazing place, and I don't think AI and the 268 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 7: Internet is going to turn that around. 269 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, What about if there's a book that's written 270 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 2: by AI that's really good and that people want, like, 271 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, there's people are asking it reception, whatever do 272 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: you think do you think her libraries should provide it? 273 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 7: Yes, libraries usually do stock customer requests and it comes 274 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 7: down to how many times a book is issued. No, 275 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 7: I doubt they're going to fill an entire library full 276 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 7: of AI written books. And if we had this conversation 277 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 7: in five years, Ryan, I doubt there would be that 278 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 7: many books that we'd been good enough to pass the 279 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 7: test to get into the library. But yes, we do 280 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 7: respond to the public as well. We have to respond 281 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 7: to what people want to read. And I also believe 282 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 7: that if you're reading anything, it's better than reading nothing, 283 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 7: getting into the habit of literacy and reading a book, 284 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 7: so better than better than nothing. 285 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Hey, Laura, appreciate your time this morning. Thanks 286 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: coming on the show. Laura Marshall, Library and Information Association 287 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: of New Zealand, Thank you very much. I would happily 288 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: watch an AI curated directed movie, happily do that. I'm 289 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: genuinely open to reading a book too. I mean, if 290 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: you had if you just put a fake name and 291 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: didn't tell me it was AI, would you even would 292 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: I even know? You know, and if it's been proofed 293 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff. But yeah, I don't know. Movies, 294 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 2: I feel what would be a lot more open to books, 295 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: Maybe not so much. Twenty five after five News Talks 296 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: VB the early. 297 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio. How It by NEWSTALKSB. 298 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: News TALKSB It is five twenty seven. You know immediately 299 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: when something makes good political sense. You can usually tell 300 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: not by listening to the minister announce it, but by 301 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: listening to the opposition oppose it. Crime is the topic 302 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: juju this week, of course, and it's one of National's strongest, 303 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 2: biggest levers. It's got to pull. It's one of the 304 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 2: few election issues on which they outpoll Labor, so it's 305 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: no wonder that they've pulled out all the stops this 306 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: after a few weeks of some shaky polling and being 307 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: on the defense. The problem for Labor with crime quite simple. 308 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 2: No one trusts them. The facts are as follows. Crime 309 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: went nuts, Labour's policy reduced prison population, which is what 310 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: makes this such a hard slot, a hard week for Labor, 311 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: not the Greens into party Maori, who sing from a 312 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 2: very different songsheet. On law and audibit for hapkins, how 313 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: do you credibly stand up and argue against longer sentences 314 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,119 Speaker 2: for thugs who bash first responders? How do you oppose 315 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 2: getting tough on coward punches? How do you oppose fines 316 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: for people stealing cuts of meat or booze from the 317 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: supermarket while the rest of us pay ever higher prices. 318 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: The answer for Labor so far has been you do 319 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: oppose these things. They've come out against pretty much every 320 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: single change that's been announced, and that plays into the 321 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: perception that they're still weak on crime, that they haven't 322 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: been going to the gym to get stronger and tougher 323 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: on crime. They are instead further withering away. Of course, 324 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 2: this problem could be solved if we knew anything about 325 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: what Labor is planning policy wise for the next election. 326 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 2: But Chippy's strategy is owing to be shock and or 327 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: they're holding cards very close to their chest until the election. 328 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: In the meantime, they do run the risk, don't they, 329 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 2: of looking weak while the coalition steals their thunder Ryan 330 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: Bridge talksb very quick update twenty nine minutes after five 331 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: Now ACT has put out a release. They're not happy 332 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: because councils have spent this is These are the councils 333 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: that have declared climate emergencies. Channel Greta Thunberg one point 334 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 2: three million dollars on international flight since twenty nineteen. Get 335 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: out twenty nine after five News Talks HEBB reporters and 336 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: then Gavin Gray UK Europe. 337 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: On Your Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with 338 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and x Fole Insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm 339 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: and dry. This winter news talks at BP. 340 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 2: Four away from six News Talk seiv B before six 341 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: Woollies on the fines for shotlifting. The heat wave in 342 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: Europe will get to Gavin Gray are UK Europe Correspondent 343 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 2: right now. The global dairy trade auction overnight numbers down 344 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: four point one percent, fourth negative auction in a row 345 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: and the biggest four easily the biggest fall this year. 346 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 2: The max last I think one point seven is as 347 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: bad as it's gotten this year. Buttered down four point 348 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: three percent, which you'll probably like the sound of if 349 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: you're buying it. Butter milk powder though, up nine point 350 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: three percent. Everything else down basically Cheddar down point two 351 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: point eight, mozzarella down point two, skim milk powder one 352 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 2: point seven, and whole milk powder which is our golden 353 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 2: goose down five point one percent, so they won't like that. 354 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: This morning, twenty three minutes away from. 355 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: Six prede in bread. 356 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 2: Reporters around the country, color Procter and needed for us 357 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: and planning happening around Transport four the new hospital colum. 358 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 8: A Morning, Ryan and z Eta here is starting to 359 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 8: seek feedback now on options for some key routes around 360 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 8: this new hospital. Here it's specifically Cumberland Street and also 361 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 8: State Highway eighty eight also known as Saint Andrews Street 362 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 8: around the new hospital. These proposed changes include adding new 363 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 8: crossings and removing a right hand turn. There's also plans 364 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 8: around nearby streets to help with driving, walking and cycling, 365 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 8: and they say making it safer and smoother for emergency 366 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 8: service vehicles to move. 367 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 2: Around the hospital. 368 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 8: So NZTA is up to ten thousand pedestrians will be 369 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 8: walking in and around the hospital daily, so these changes 370 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 8: are practical and sensible to make it efficient for everyone. 371 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather. 372 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 8: It's minus three at the moment at our airport, but 373 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 8: fine today light winds and twelve. 374 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: Thank you and Courtney and christ Church. Hey, Courtney, good morning, Ryan. 375 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 2: Your airport's pretty busy. 376 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: Yes. 377 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 9: So in New Zealand is adding over ninety two thousand 378 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 9: seats to its Auckland to christ Church roots before between 379 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 9: November and March. This is a boost of eleven percent. 380 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 9: It's also introducing an extra one hundred and twenty thousand 381 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 9: seats for the Special Olympics this December to help athletes 382 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 9: and supporters travel to the games. This is another vote 383 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 9: of confidence for the Garden City as Quantus, China, Southern 384 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 9: and Singapore airlines have increased flights over the summer season 385 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 9: in Z's domestic General Manager Kate O'Brien sees the aiding 386 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 9: capacity to support tourism operators, events and regional economies in 387 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 9: christ Church and beyond. 388 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: How's your weather, Courtney. 389 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 9: It's chili down here too with some morning frost, but 390 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 9: it's going to become fine. High cloud northeasterlies a high 391 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 9: of ten. 392 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: You keep warm, Courtney, Max's and Wellington heymax, good morning. 393 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: Now what's the council finally admitting to the cost. 394 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 10: Of Yeah, this was really odd by the Wellington City Council. 395 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 10: Our newsroom went to them quite a few months ago, 396 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 10: probably more than a year ago, to simply ask what 397 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 10: the cost was the city's new pay by plate parking machines, 398 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 10: which are solar powered. They have English and today Omori instructions, 399 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 10: quite unique in that regard, and we were met with 400 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 10: the dead fish eyes. Sorry we can't tell you. It's 401 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 10: a secret commercial sensitivity, which is of course ridiculous. We 402 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 10: paid for them. We went to the ombudsman. Of course, 403 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 10: naturally have now been sent the information now grown up's gone. 404 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 10: Involved just over three point five million dollars for these machines, 405 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 10: nine grand roughly per machine, and notably, just under a 406 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 10: year ago, about eighty of them had to have their 407 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 10: solar panels moved quite a few feet higher out of 408 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 10: reach because they were being smashed by vandals. That work 409 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 10: quite cost quite a bit as well. You can read 410 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 10: that full story Ethan Minera up on the Herald website 411 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 10: about seven am. 412 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: I certainly will be lovely to her we preview. So 413 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: three point five million dollar? Do we know how that 414 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: compares to a non woke one? 415 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 10: More, I don't have the number in front of me, 416 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 10: but more you can safely assume. 417 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for that. You're with it today, mix 418 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: Sonny for those solar panels. 419 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 10: Well partly cloudy, so a little bit of power, A 420 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 10: strong norther east thirteen the hay. 421 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Nice and enjoy max. Thank you. Neva's an auk Hay. 422 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 3: Neither greetings ye Jeffer, Yes, the Jeffer and no we're 423 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 3: not talking about just another if bleep Aucklander, sweet Maker Jays. 424 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: I've confirmed they're going to stop manufacturing the Lolly the 425 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: Jeffers because of well, declining sales. Now Jeffers have been 426 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: on our shelves since nineteen thirty one and brand straighted. 427 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 3: Just Jill Brinston says, Look, no matter how much of 428 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 3: a culture icon something is, if it's not selling, it's 429 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: just not going to stick around. So she's saying, you know, 430 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: it may rise again if there's a new spin on them, 431 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: but you know, like no brands can last forever. Been 432 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: around since nineteen thirty one. It's been a hot topic 433 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: in the newsroom. We're just talking about. Someone brought up 434 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: a really good point Dunedin. You know how that Steep 435 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: Street Boardwin Street and they used to drop their Jeffers 436 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: drop them down? 437 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: Why are they going to use They stopped doing that, 438 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: didn't they? I think the last one was twenty before COVID, 439 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: I think, But what is up with I would genuinely 440 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: love to hear from people, why did we stop buying Jeffers, 441 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Because they've said declining sales is the reason so nineteen 442 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: ninety two, why did you stop buying Jaffers? 443 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 10: Please? 444 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: Is it because the price? I had a look this morning. 445 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: So five dollars nineteen for one hundred and fifty grams, 446 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: that's expensive. That that's six bucks for three hundred and 447 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: sixty grams of just Cabrey chocolate. 448 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 3: And I remember back in the day, you know, you'd 449 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 3: go to the movies, but who's going to the movies now? 450 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: You'd either have Jeffers, you get you could buy a 451 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: box of Jeffers, either Boxer snifters or the tingy fruits. Yes, 452 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 3: And I always used to go for the Jeffers. And 453 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 3: when you used to go into movie theater, there's a cargo. 454 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: Back in the day, you know, you know how kids 455 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: used to throw the lollies around. Yeah, okay, don't waste 456 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: your lollies. Used to say to my brother's go three 457 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: second rule. 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: Pick up those lollies. You're catching them, you're catching them. 459 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's an interesting question. Did we fall out 460 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 2: of love with them because we have more choice? I mean, 461 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: you you know, lots more stuff you can get, yes? 462 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 2: Or is it I wonder if there's a cunning back 463 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: on sugar thing? 464 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 465 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: True too, because you know I wouldn't buy a full packet. 466 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't. 467 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 468 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: Now I'd be just having like one and stuck on 469 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 3: it for like two hours, yees. 470 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: Otherwise I'd be enormous. Hey, how's that with her? 471 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 9: Cloudy? 472 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 3: Scattered shows from afternoon? Seventeen is a high here in Auckland. 473 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: Nice one, thanks very much, Neva. It is eighteen away 474 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: from six that number again, nine two nine two. Our 475 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: UK Europe correspondent Gavin Gray is with us Live next 476 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: and then we're talking to Woollies about the changes that's 477 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: been made to shoplifting. So you've got a fine sounds great, 478 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars or one thousand dollars fine on the spot, 479 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: But someone's just stolen something from your store and the 480 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: police have to issue the fine. So what are you 481 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 2: doing in the meantime? Is Wooly's going to start holding 482 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: the thieves until the cops arrive. 483 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: We'll ask before six International correspondence with ends an eye 484 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: insurance peace of mind for New Zealand business. 485 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: Just gone fourteen away from six, Jeff for feedback in 486 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: a second right now, Gavin Gray are UK Europe Corra 487 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: givin good morning, good evening to you either rat new 488 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: twist in This is Lucy Lipby, Britain's most prolific modern 489 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: serial killer. What is the twist here? 490 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 11: Well, she's currently serving fifteen life sentences for targeting babies 491 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 11: at Chester Hospital or the Countess of Chester Hospital in 492 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 11: northwest England in the twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen killing, 493 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 11: murdering seven babies, attempting to murdering seven others. There's been 494 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 11: a great deal to talk about some of the evidence 495 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 11: being circumstantial and not particularly reliable, but she remains behind 496 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 11: bars today. However, three of her bosses have now suddenly 497 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 11: been arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter. In other words, 498 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 11: bosses that perhaps might have been looking at the fatality 499 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 11: rates within that baby unit now potentially facing a police 500 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 11: investigation of their own. These arrests have come into potential 501 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 11: corporate manslaughter at the hospital. That investigation was opened a 502 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 11: couple of years back and then widened in March this 503 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 11: year to include gross negligence manslaughter and those three have 504 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 11: been questioned and released after that questioning on bail and 505 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 11: the police pointing out that gross negligence. Manslaughter is a 506 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 11: separate offense focusing on grossly negligent action or inaction of individuals. 507 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 11: And as I said, all this at a time when 508 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 11: summer concluding, Lucy LETB may not herself be guilty. 509 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: And the heat wave, we've got two people who died 510 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: in Italy. Quickly just give us a sense. How hot 511 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 2: is it? 512 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 11: Yeah, well, across southern Europe very hot. So they for 513 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 11: having sort of mid forties forty six point six celsius 514 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 11: one temperature recorded nighttime temperature in Barcelona twenty seven celsius 515 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 11: in Seville twenty eight and today confirmed Spain and England 516 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 11: have recorded their hottest June ever. 517 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: Appreciate your time this morning. That's Kevin Gray, our UK 518 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: europe correspondent. Time is twelve minutes away from six. Ryan 519 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: bred on News talks B. We're getting harsher penalties for 520 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: theft and new fines for shoplifting. Changes these are proposed 521 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: at the stage include infringement fines of five hundred bucks 522 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: if the value of the stolen goods was below five 523 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: hundred dollars, or up to one thousand dollars if the 524 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: stolen goods worth more than five hundred bucks, but theft 525 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: maximum penalty will be one year in prison if the 526 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 2: value is two thousand or less, up to seven years 527 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: in prison if goods were valued at more than two 528 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Jason Stockel is wil Worst, director of Retail 529 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 2: with me this morning. Hey Jason, morning, How are you good? 530 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 2: Thank you? Do you think this is going? I mean, 531 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 2: if somebody is stealing stuff, they're probably not massively well off. 532 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: We'll a fine deter them, do you think, Ryan? 533 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 4: It'll be interesting to see how that system works. But 534 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: from our point of view, we're just pleased that we've 535 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: had the announcements. It's a positive step forward and we're 536 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: happy to look at any initiative that's going to make 537 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: our stores safer for our team and our customers. 538 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 2: How does it work if you want to issue an 539 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: on the spot fine, it's the cops that do it, 540 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 2: So you have to wait till the cops arrive to 541 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 2: do that. What happens if the offender leaves in the interim, 542 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: You're right from what. 543 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 4: The detail we're looking at is, the police will obviously 544 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: shoe those fines on the spot, and if they have 545 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 4: left they've left, we'll obviously do our normal reports who 546 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: or and our CCTV reporting to hopefully that they can 547 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: track them down. But again, as you said, it all 548 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: depends on what the value is that we'll report everything 549 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 4: where we can to the police. 550 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: So you're not you're not going to change your practice 551 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: of not because at the moment you know you'd always 552 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: you don't let your staff hold the trolley or hold 553 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: the person. Your security guards are told not to do 554 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: that as well. 555 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: Is that correct if we can't restrain anybody, we can 556 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: approach if we've had our team trained correctly to approach 557 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 4: the offender or the thief. But the main aim for 558 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: us is to keep our team and customers safe. 559 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: Would you like the authority to restrain people. 560 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: It'd be an interesting concept, And when we've talked about 561 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 4: the citizens arrest yesterday, actually it'll be interesting. But again 562 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: we've got to have some real type time framework around 563 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 4: that because you put your team or your customers in 564 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: the way of a citizens ar rest, you don't know 565 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: what the outcome is going to be, particularly when we've 566 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: got knife threatening and abuse from theft at sixty five 567 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: percent increase on last year, so you just don't know 568 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 4: what they're carrying nowadays. So again for me, it's about 569 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: how do we keep our team safe. But we'll watch 570 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: this space with what the government come out with. 571 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: Okay, but if it wasn't your staff, but security guards, 572 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: if they were able to do it, would you be 573 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: open to. 574 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 4: Then Look again, probably would be. 575 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: But again we've. 576 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 4: Got to make sure that the training is right. 577 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: Ryan. 578 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: We've got to make sure that is third party security 579 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 4: company that get involved in citizens arrest, particularly if through 580 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 4: in a public, open area, which our supermarkets are, we've 581 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: got to make sure that they've got exactly the right 582 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 4: training to keep them safe and the customers around them. 583 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 2: Should anyone have a taser because that's one of the 584 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: things that were going to recom mean was taser training 585 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: for security guards. 586 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, I won't go down that path. I've seen 587 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 4: it happen in our stores though, but it wasn't the 588 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: security guards as the police. But again we've got to 589 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 4: watch what that looks like and see what the government recommend. 590 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: Jason, appreciate your time this morning. Jason stockhol Will worst 591 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,479 Speaker 2: Director of Retail. So there you go. What what difference 592 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: does a fine make if you're not there to get 593 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 2: the fine? You know, it's like a tree falling in 594 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 2: the woods, isn't it? The number of six? The feedback 595 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: coming in on Jeffers is fascinating. We'll get to that next. 596 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: And Mike has hed. 597 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: Too news and views you trust to start your day. 598 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: It's earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge at Expol installation, 599 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi Holmes warm and dry, this winter. 600 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: News talk, so it'd be one of those stories today. 601 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: One. 602 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: It's seven away from six. The Jeffers, the fact that 603 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: our James is not going to be making them anymore. Ryan, 604 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: stop leading Jeffers due to the fact that we're not 605 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: meant to eat sugar. So is it the sugar is 606 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: at the cost? Or is it because you have other 607 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 2: options now? Ryan still by them occasionally cutting down on sugar, 608 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 2: So aren't buying them as often used to? Like the 609 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: giant Ones great shows? Is hamish? Ryan? The shrunk a 610 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: fraction from what they were. It's ruined them. Are you 611 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: sure you weren't eating the giant Ones? Ryan, it's cost 612 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: of living. Can't do it anymore. And the cheaper ones 613 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: called orange chocolate balls, which is completely unoriginal but cheaper 614 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: and still available, says Gary. Six to six, Ryan Bredge, 615 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: Mike don't see you eating no jeckers. Do you know 616 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: what we'remen eating. 617 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 12: What we're missing in the story is that what we're 618 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 12: doing as old people is being nostealgic. And so the 619 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 12: marketing exercise. As you grow older, you don't eat lollies. 620 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 12: I mean Lolli's is a kid's thing. So you're needing 621 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 12: to market to a new market. So what you thought 622 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 12: was a good thing, like a fifty cent mixture or 623 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 12: an aeroplane to a new generation. I know this because 624 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 12: of an eighteen year old, our youngest at home. It's 625 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 12: all party packs and imitation stuff from China and stuff. 626 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: Like that, just the sheer number. There are options you've 627 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: got now. It's not just sniffers and jets. 628 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 12: There are no originals left, you know, the really good ones. 629 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 12: You know used to get a wine gum, a good 630 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 12: chewy wine gum, and they don't exist any The jet 631 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 12: planes are still going pretty good jet planes are still 632 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 12: available to you. There's not Eskimo about the place. If 633 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 12: you notice, there's not Kimo only at Easter, No, no 634 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 12: little Eskimo packet of eskimos pineapple lumps, not what they were. 635 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: No, well, nothing is because that's because we have options now, 636 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: and we realized pineapple lumps were actually ever that good. 637 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 12: I reckon, I disagree. I think of blackberries and raspberries. 638 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 2: Would you go to the supermarket and buy well, you would, 639 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: of course, of course not. 640 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 12: But I don't go to the supermarket and I don't 641 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 12: buy lollies. So you're talking to the wrong person. But 642 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 12: back in the day, it was twenty cents with your 643 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 12: pocket money. Yeah, for the blackberries and the raspberrys? 644 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: What did you do for your pocket money? 645 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 12: Or I worked like a dog? Actually, absolutely worked like 646 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 12: a dog. I mowed the lawns. 647 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 2: Did you We had to work like dogs. But we 648 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 2: didn't get pocket money. 649 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: That was just for board. 650 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 12: So you're better raised than I am. But we're a 651 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 12: push mower. We didn't have a motor mole. We had 652 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 12: a push ma So I pushed went and we had 653 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 12: a quarter acre section back in those days. So you 654 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 12: had blackberries and raspberries, you had a push moa and 655 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 12: you had a quarter acre section. And so you took 656 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 12: your twenty cents down to the fall square. They're still around, 657 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 12: so you took them down to the fall square, and 658 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 12: for twenty cents you could buy a. 659 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 2: Good selection you know what they call that, mate, the 660 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: good old days. 661 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 12: That's exactly right. And that's and that's why we're nostalgic 662 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 12: for them, because the kids have all moved on. They 663 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 12: don't know what we're talking about, but we just longed 664 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 12: for what once. 665 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: But also you look at inflation and what the price 666 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: of a Jeffer is now compared to what it was. 667 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 12: You know what else happened back in the old days? No, no, no, 668 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 12: No one stole stuff. There were no thieves back in 669 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 12: the old days. True, you didn't have these new rules. 670 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: See these new rules completely useless. If you can't hold 671 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: someone down to give them a fine, what's. 672 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 12: The point hold them down? Wouldn't you when you be 673 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 12: timid to hold them down? 674 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: You know when they would have held them down the 675 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: good old days, the good old days, exactly Mike's Necks 676 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: three to six News Talk said be. 677 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live 678 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 679 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.