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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be Who.

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Speaker 2: Could possibly, in their wildest dreams ever have imagined it?

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Speaker 2: Who could possibly have foreseen that the world's wealthiest man

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Speaker 2: in the world's most powerful politician might blow up their

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Speaker 2: bromance in the most spectacular fashion, Elon and Don feuding. No, no,

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Speaker 2: say it ain't so. The curious thing is the pair

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Speaker 2: of them. Donald Trump and Elon Musk do actually have

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Speaker 2: a few qualities in common. Hypocrisy for starters. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about it. Having pledged many dozens of times to

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Speaker 2: pay down his country's debt, Donald Trump is pushing forward

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Speaker 2: legislation that will actually grow the debt by an estimated

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Speaker 2: four trillion New Zealand dollars. Four trillion dollars. That sounds

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Speaker 2: made up. Just think about it for a moment, right, So,

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Speaker 2: so a billion is one thousand millions and a trillion

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Speaker 2: is one thousand billions. That's four thousand, thousand million dollars.

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Speaker 2: And then, having pledged to cut waste from the same

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Speaker 2: government's spending, Elon Musk, of course, heroically cut support for

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Speaker 2: HIV positive mothers in the developing world, while simultaneously taking

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Speaker 2: billions of dollars in subsidies and contracts that, what do

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Speaker 2: you know, benefit his own companies. Another common quality between

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Speaker 2: the two of them well, the speed of which they

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Speaker 2: both go nuclear. I mean, in the space of a

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Speaker 2: few hours, we've had Donald Trump threatening to cut SpaceX funding,

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Speaker 2: We've had Elon Musk threatening to decommission the rocket used

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Speaker 2: to get US astronauts to and from space, and an

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Speaker 2: accusation about the Epstein files made without any evidence, which,

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Speaker 2: nonetheless I thought the White House was notably less than

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Speaker 2: emphatic in denying. In my Elon Musk has been headed

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Speaker 2: for a big fall for a long long time. I

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Speaker 2: think his behaviors erratic, whether it's the Nazi salutes or

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Speaker 2: his public statements. I think he seems unbalanced, and that's

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Speaker 2: a generous term. I think the reporting about his drug

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Speaker 2: use is at the very least kind of consistent with

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Speaker 2: his appearance at the White House and the fact that

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Speaker 2: he's in multiple custody battles with multiple women over children,

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Speaker 2: that he's barely spent any time with ever, I think

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Speaker 2: says an awful lot of awful about his character. And

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Speaker 2: while sure, at his best he has achieved some extraordinary things. I,

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Speaker 2: for one, used to be a big fan. You only

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Speaker 2: need to log into x to see that one of

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Speaker 2: the most productive human beings in the history of our

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Speaker 2: species is these days dedicating an obscene amount of his

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Speaker 2: time to juvenile posts, lies, and conspiracy theories on social media.

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Speaker 2: Unlike Donald Trump, Elon Musk isn't charismatic, He isn't funny.

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Speaker 2: The more people see of him, the less they seem

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Speaker 2: to like him and his products. And despite his threats

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Speaker 2: to start a third political party and take down Republicans

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Speaker 2: who support the president and the President's bill, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: have anything like the pulling power or the kind of

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Speaker 2: you know, the cult support that Donald Trump enjoys. In April,

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk poured almost fifty million New Zealand dollars into

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Speaker 2: a single judicial election in Wisconsin and his candidate lost.

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Speaker 2: This wasn't like the federal elections. This wasn't a presidential race.

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Speaker 2: This was a single judicial election and his candidate lost.

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Speaker 2: If anything, Elon Musk's money and his support hurt the

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Speaker 2: guy's chances. So look, who knows where this feud is headed.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they will cool off and make up in a

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Speaker 2: few days time. Regardless, though as far as I'm concerned,

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Speaker 2: there will only be one winner, and it won't be

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Speaker 2: Elon Musk.

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