1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: And so what sort of effect does the big construction 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: product announcement have on the cost of your next new build. 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: A whole bunch of offshore building products are going to 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: be allowed into the country now, meaning choice and cheaper 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: prices theoretically. Chris Panker is the Building and Construction Minister 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: is with us. 7 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Chris, morning to you, good morning right. 8 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Just for clarification sake, are all of these products available 9 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: as of today at Bunnings and Mitery ten and all 10 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the other places you want to buy window frames from. 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Well, they'll be stocked when the retailers make those available. 12 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: And actually some of them are already available and can 13 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: theoretically be used in this country. But the point about 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: specifying this pathway is that you don't have to mark 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: around and argue that local council about whether, according to them, 16 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: these should be legitimate or not. So in some cases 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: it will be an immediate effects. In another cases it 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 2: will be a rolling more of people giving hits around 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: the idea important and being able to use. As follows, 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: a lot. 21 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Of attention on plaster board is that the bulk of 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: it or is there genuine savings to be made on 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: a variety of other stuff. 24 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: We think that nuine savings across the board speak. But 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: plaster board's well known as a case study because there 26 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: is market dominance with one player at ninety seven percent 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: usage currently, but also because of that supply chain shortage 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: that we had back in twenty twenty two, which sparked 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: a lot of the conversations about the resilients as well 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 2: as the competition more broadly, and of course the downward 31 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: pressure and prices that we need. So we've specified doors 32 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: and windows, insulation and a few other items, but more 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: to come as well. It's the rolling more approach. 34 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: So the numbers we got yesterday, X was more expensive 35 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: in Australia by thirty eight percent, thirty seven percent, et cetera. 36 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: In totality, if I work my butt off to get 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the best product in the best price, what do I 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: bring my house price build down too? 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's had to be sopecific and get 40 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: out the crystal ball. But let's say twenty five percent 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: of the cost of a building is materials, which is 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: what we've had indicated to us, maybe even slightly more, 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: and so on a six hundred thousand dollars new build, 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: for example, that's one hundred and fifty thousand dollars up 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: for grabs, so you only need a small percentage across 46 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: that kind of money to actually get quite a significant 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: saving of tens of thousands of dollars. So we're really 48 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: optimistic it'll make a market change. 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: This might be an ignorant question, how do we get 50 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: ourselves into this mess in the first place? 51 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's risk aversion, and for all the 52 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: right reasons. You know, we don't want, you know, materials 53 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: that are not up to scratch, and by that I 54 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: mean not meeting unusual under standards. But if you think 55 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: about that as a natural starting point, but then go, well, actually, 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: are there ways we can get around that problem? There 57 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: must be something between flooding the market with cheap, nasty 58 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 2: materials and what we've got now. And the answer is 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: surely that if there are credible and comfortable countries that 60 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: use good materials according to standards that are equal or 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: higher to those in this country, then why wouldn't we 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: So that's exactly what we're doing to do. 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: That's up. That makes perfect sense. I don't know why 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: we didn't do it soon. A Chris Pink, who's the 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: building and construction Minister. 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: For more from the My Casking Breakfast listen live to 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: News Talk SETB from six am weekdays, or follow the 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 2: podcast on iHeartRadio