1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,413 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from News Talks That Be. 3 00:00:12,693 --> 00:00:14,133 Speaker 2: And right now that it's time to catch up with 4 00:00:14,173 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 2: our cook Nikki Wickx, who's in this morning. 5 00:00:16,253 --> 00:00:18,773 Speaker 3: Kilder kyolder, how are you? 6 00:00:19,293 --> 00:00:20,853 Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. I've been eating a lot 7 00:00:20,893 --> 00:00:25,373 Speaker 2: of cassados over the last few days, which are there, well, 8 00:00:25,413 --> 00:00:27,253 Speaker 2: they're I mean they're not. It's kind of a very 9 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:32,213 Speaker 2: simple costa ricameal, rice, beans, plantains, salad, tortilla, bit of meat. 10 00:00:32,333 --> 00:00:35,413 Speaker 2: That's basically it's good. It's good, but it's like honest food, 11 00:00:35,533 --> 00:00:38,773 Speaker 2: very simple food, but honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. 12 00:00:38,813 --> 00:00:40,773 Speaker 3: It's interesting, isn't I Who did you say before that 13 00:00:41,173 --> 00:00:42,813 Speaker 3: you have rice and beans and when you're sick of those, 14 00:00:42,853 --> 00:00:46,533 Speaker 3: you have beans and rice And it is true, isn't it? 15 00:00:46,573 --> 00:00:48,253 Speaker 3: And you've got all your you know, you've got all 16 00:00:48,253 --> 00:00:50,493 Speaker 3: your proteins and your amino acids in there. But it 17 00:00:50,493 --> 00:00:53,213 Speaker 3: does really come from history in terms of people not 18 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:54,813 Speaker 3: being able to afford a lot of food and those 19 00:00:54,813 --> 00:00:55,533 Speaker 3: of the course. 20 00:00:57,093 --> 00:01:00,013 Speaker 2: I tell you what they call Oh yeah no, there's 21 00:01:00,133 --> 00:01:03,293 Speaker 2: there's a lot of cacao and there is also there 22 00:01:03,293 --> 00:01:06,853 Speaker 2: are a lot of mangoes I've been making out being 23 00:01:07,173 --> 00:01:08,973 Speaker 2: a lot of mango is a lot of passion through 24 00:01:09,093 --> 00:01:11,693 Speaker 2: a lot of malons. So I haven't don't don't for it, 25 00:01:11,733 --> 00:01:17,413 Speaker 2: don't don't violent for me. This morning, we're racing this 26 00:01:17,413 --> 00:01:21,493 Speaker 2: morning on something a bit different. A competition, a one 27 00:01:21,533 --> 00:01:24,693 Speaker 2: of a kind competition that only involves pro chefs and 28 00:01:24,733 --> 00:01:27,573 Speaker 2: promising young chefs called Moose Masters. 29 00:01:28,053 --> 00:01:28,213 Speaker 1: Yeah. 30 00:01:28,253 --> 00:01:30,333 Speaker 3: I really like this. I like that it's focused on 31 00:01:30,413 --> 00:01:34,013 Speaker 3: people who are working in the industry as chefs and 32 00:01:34,293 --> 00:01:36,133 Speaker 3: and those who are either news with it or they've 33 00:01:36,133 --> 00:01:39,013 Speaker 3: been in there forever. And a chocolate moose is something 34 00:01:39,093 --> 00:01:41,893 Speaker 3: that is if you like, a real classic. Everyone gets 35 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,133 Speaker 3: taught out to make a chocolate moose at chef or 36 00:01:44,133 --> 00:01:47,973 Speaker 3: cook school. Absolutely so this wonderful company called Weave Cocaw 37 00:01:48,653 --> 00:01:50,653 Speaker 3: and they've got a great story for our listeners if 38 00:01:50,693 --> 00:01:51,333 Speaker 3: you want to go on. 39 00:01:51,293 --> 00:01:52,733 Speaker 1: Their website Weave Cocaw. 40 00:01:53,373 --> 00:01:56,973 Speaker 3: They essentially are trying to really support and us to 41 00:01:57,053 --> 00:02:00,933 Speaker 3: the cow growers of Papa New Guinea because the cacao 42 00:02:01,093 --> 00:02:04,933 Speaker 3: or cocoa markets or chocolate market it feeds into this 43 00:02:05,013 --> 00:02:08,333 Speaker 3: great bulk industry that when you're a small niche you know, 44 00:02:08,453 --> 00:02:11,093 Speaker 3: Pacific grower, it's very hard to survive. So these guys 45 00:02:11,133 --> 00:02:13,173 Speaker 3: are really doing great things. So yes, they want to 46 00:02:13,213 --> 00:02:17,653 Speaker 3: find New Zealand's top chocolate moose dessert, and I bet 47 00:02:17,693 --> 00:02:20,613 Speaker 3: they will be elaborate and fantastic, honestly. So I'm going 48 00:02:20,693 --> 00:02:23,573 Speaker 3: to share my very simple, very classic done in a 49 00:02:23,573 --> 00:02:24,373 Speaker 3: little partial and. 50 00:02:24,293 --> 00:02:28,093 Speaker 2: I think over complicated. 51 00:02:29,053 --> 00:02:31,293 Speaker 3: Yes, don't over complicate it, but I know that these 52 00:02:31,333 --> 00:02:34,693 Speaker 3: jets will probably look for height and towering things. 53 00:02:34,413 --> 00:02:35,133 Speaker 1: And this, that and the other. 54 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:39,173 Speaker 3: But here's how to make a classic a classic. And 55 00:02:39,213 --> 00:02:41,093 Speaker 3: I'm going to stay safe because I don't actually use 56 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:43,573 Speaker 3: the egg whites because they are raw and I think, 57 00:02:43,733 --> 00:02:45,533 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes people are a little bit weird about that. 58 00:02:45,573 --> 00:02:47,653 Speaker 3: But I've got a little trick for that. So here 59 00:02:47,693 --> 00:02:51,053 Speaker 3: we go. You want to bring and I think it's 60 00:02:51,053 --> 00:02:53,293 Speaker 3: all about texture as well as flavor for a chocolate 61 00:02:53,293 --> 00:02:56,133 Speaker 3: moos and hester all sort of almost disappear in your mouth. 62 00:02:56,173 --> 00:02:58,813 Speaker 3: It's I've got four in the French. How long do 63 00:02:58,813 --> 00:03:01,693 Speaker 3: you think they're gonna last? Anyway? So first of all, 64 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:04,373 Speaker 3: take half a cup of cream and bring that to 65 00:03:04,653 --> 00:03:08,773 Speaker 3: a near boil and a little small saucepan and meantime, 66 00:03:08,773 --> 00:03:10,573 Speaker 3: while that's happening, although keep an eye on it in 67 00:03:10,653 --> 00:03:15,333 Speaker 3: a bowl whisked together two small egg yolks and a 68 00:03:15,813 --> 00:03:18,173 Speaker 3: heap tablespoon of sugar. And you want to do this 69 00:03:18,253 --> 00:03:20,773 Speaker 3: until it's beautiful and pale, and then keep whisking as 70 00:03:20,773 --> 00:03:24,373 Speaker 3: you slowly pour that hot cream into the eggs. And 71 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:27,173 Speaker 3: that will one kodly eggs, but it will cook those 72 00:03:27,173 --> 00:03:30,253 Speaker 3: egg yolks enough, and then you've got seventy grams of 73 00:03:30,493 --> 00:03:33,853 Speaker 3: very dark, good quality chopped. Of course, I reckon that 74 00:03:33,893 --> 00:03:36,093 Speaker 3: you use some weave cacao because it's got a nice 75 00:03:36,213 --> 00:03:41,493 Speaker 3: high cocoa and cocoa butter. It's not sort of cheap 76 00:03:41,493 --> 00:03:45,493 Speaker 3: and just non cocoa fat, so throw that in. Add 77 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 3: you chop chocolate. Let it stand for a little bit, 78 00:03:48,253 --> 00:03:50,253 Speaker 3: and that chocolate will melt, so I chop it very 79 00:03:50,253 --> 00:03:53,573 Speaker 3: small and then allow that to cool, and then really 80 00:03:53,613 --> 00:03:56,253 Speaker 3: give it a good old whisk, and you'll see all 81 00:03:56,253 --> 00:03:59,293 Speaker 3: of that chocolate start to melt through the sugar and eggs, 82 00:03:59,613 --> 00:04:01,853 Speaker 3: and then you fold it in. Instead of some egg whites, 83 00:04:01,853 --> 00:04:05,613 Speaker 3: which is traditional, I just use the cream. So you 84 00:04:05,733 --> 00:04:08,213 Speaker 3: use half a cup green that you've then whipped with 85 00:04:08,333 --> 00:04:11,453 Speaker 3: a bit of vanilla extract and fold that gently through 86 00:04:11,493 --> 00:04:13,933 Speaker 3: so that you're not losing any of the air into 87 00:04:13,973 --> 00:04:15,813 Speaker 3: the chocolate, which it takes quite a while. I got 88 00:04:15,813 --> 00:04:17,893 Speaker 3: to be a bit patient pour it into four. I 89 00:04:17,973 --> 00:04:20,413 Speaker 3: just use little cups. It's rich, so you don't have to, 90 00:04:20,693 --> 00:04:22,933 Speaker 3: you know, have a huge amount of this. Refrigerate it 91 00:04:22,973 --> 00:04:25,173 Speaker 3: for at least three to four hours or overnight. Have 92 00:04:25,253 --> 00:04:28,493 Speaker 3: some patience with that because that helps set that. You know, 93 00:04:28,533 --> 00:04:30,893 Speaker 3: that chocolate again, of course, which gives you the texture. 94 00:04:31,213 --> 00:04:34,173 Speaker 3: Maybe grate some chocolate on top, maybe serve it with 95 00:04:34,173 --> 00:04:36,053 Speaker 3: a little bit of extra whipped creep on top. 96 00:04:36,173 --> 00:04:38,653 Speaker 2: I don't know. And it's just beautiful, you know. 97 00:04:38,693 --> 00:04:40,133 Speaker 3: It's the sort of thing that you know, you dig 98 00:04:40,173 --> 00:04:43,773 Speaker 3: your spoon into its moose like and then as I say, 99 00:04:43,773 --> 00:04:45,613 Speaker 3: it just sort of the mouth feel, it just sort 100 00:04:45,653 --> 00:04:47,453 Speaker 3: of disappears in your mouth, which is so good. 101 00:04:47,933 --> 00:04:50,493 Speaker 2: So there you go. All right, Okay, well make sure 102 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:52,893 Speaker 2: that is on the website. It sounds amazing. Thank you, Nikki. 103 00:04:52,893 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 2: You enjoy the remaining four I'm sure, like you say, 104 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:56,773 Speaker 2: they won't last long, and we'll be back at a 105 00:04:56,773 --> 00:04:58,013 Speaker 2: couple of minutes for. 106 00:04:58,053 --> 00:05:01,093 Speaker 1: More from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live to 107 00:05:01,213 --> 00:05:04,213 Speaker 1: news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or follow 108 00:05:04,253 --> 00:05:05,853 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio