WEBVTT - The Panel: Maggie Smith, truancy, Bridgerton ball

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Weekend Collective podcast from News Talk ZEDB.

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<v Speaker 2>And time to introduce my fabulous panel, my first my

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<v Speaker 2>first panelist. She's no stranger than news Talk ZIBB audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's she's won the Old Award. You know, she's

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<v Speaker 2>won the Old Award for news reading. She's and she's

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<v Speaker 2>quite a good company. And it turns out, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not a bad sort and it's neither ready Marney, Hi, Neva.

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<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to sort of bang on about how many.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty I don't don't don't award because you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 3>just like to fly under the radars counting there's only

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen or fourteen, but that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, have you literally lost count? Have you literally lost count?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeh? I mean, you know we're all stars here at

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<v Speaker 3>ZIBB to them even you, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>You scrape around the bottom of the barrel there love anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>and joining me is he's coming through to us from

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<v Speaker 2>the Wellington Studio. I don't know if he's won any awards,

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<v Speaker 2>but he would probably win an award for just being

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<v Speaker 2>so insufferrable, young and successful. And it's brad OL's economist

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Owl's and hi, Brad, how are you.

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<v Speaker 4>Going good afternoon? I'm well, thank you, and I'm enjoying

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<v Speaker 4>the fabulous day that we seem to be having in Wellington,

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<v Speaker 4>which sometimes is a bit few and far between.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that too much saying you're insufferably young and successful.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just trying to glance right over there really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, ah, you know, of course, I always I

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<v Speaker 2>always mean it with love. But you of course see

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<v Speaker 2>e Oven from Metrics house things going then for Metrics saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, look, there's always a lot happening in the economy,

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<v Speaker 4>so our team is always pretty busy looking around at things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, interest rates are still the big one at

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<v Speaker 4>the moment. Everyone wants to know what's going to happen next,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we're still we're still tracking on and looking

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<v Speaker 4>at things.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, by the way, actually, Neva, did you want to

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<v Speaker 2>chip in there? I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to just wanted to chip in there and

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<v Speaker 3>say something to do you, Brad because we have never

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<v Speaker 3>met face to face, but you know, I know you

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<v Speaker 3>because every time I've been reading the news, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>your name always pops up and we're always got new

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<v Speaker 3>stories about you. But you know, when I knew you

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<v Speaker 3>were coming on the panel today. My first thought was

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<v Speaker 3>not a you as an economics expert, but you as

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<v Speaker 3>a dancing expert, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to shake that I know well.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought that was the only Radio Awards event

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<v Speaker 3>that I didn't go to, and I wish I was

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<v Speaker 3>there because I love dancing and I'm sure I would

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<v Speaker 3>have been dancing with Bread that day.

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<v Speaker 2>That legend has just grown. I don't know whether you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need dancing at all based on what you've told me,

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<v Speaker 2>but the impression is growing, and the legend is growing

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<v Speaker 2>that you get Brad Olsen on the dance floor and

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<v Speaker 2>stand back, baby. Look.

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<v Speaker 4>All I can say is that Mike Costing owes me

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<v Speaker 4>a lot for the muck that he's raked me through.

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<v Speaker 4>And amongst ZB officers, I think, look to be honest.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't got the call up yet for whatever next

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<v Speaker 4>edition of Dancing on Star Dancing with the Stars has been,

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<v Speaker 4>so I feel like it kind of mean that good.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet I think look to be clear and to confirm

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<v Speaker 4>and deny all the rumors. All at once, there was dancing,

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<v Speaker 4>but thankfully there's never a record of it anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>What read next time you come up to the Auckland office.

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<v Speaker 3>Here at News Talk ZB, we are always dancing, especially

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<v Speaker 3>the breakfast crew because we're here from four am, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you need to come in early, and

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<v Speaker 3>when you're here in Auckland, it just comes through to

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<v Speaker 3>ZB because we've always got the music blaring eighties though,

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<v Speaker 3>eighties and nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I can see a show dancing with

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<v Speaker 2>the economists. Oh I can we get brad Olsen. There,

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<v Speaker 2>we get Tony Alexander, I've run out anyone else.

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<v Speaker 4>That'll be a quick show. I mean, look, it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things where I don't know if I do

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<v Speaker 4>all that well with the eighties and nineties music, given

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<v Speaker 4>that I was born in the late nineties and so

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<v Speaker 4>therefore I'm not going to recognize all that many of them. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>if we can do twenty tens pop on all the fort.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you enjoy the little bit of Queen there though?

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<v Speaker 4>I did, and I knew that song, which is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, also, it's funny, isn't

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<v Speaker 2>it that that there are bands of a generation that,

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<v Speaker 2>even if you weren't alive, like probably be pretty familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of ABBA's repertoire. I'm a huge Abba fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still going through my Abba sort of obsession at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment. I don't know why. It's because YouTube keeps

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<v Speaker 2>throwing me the clips and I had a crush on Agneta. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>there we go. That's another thing. I'll probably talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that with the counselor sometime. Anyway, Hey, by the way, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>you are I want to know about this. But I

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<v Speaker 2>gather last time you were you were up in Auckland actually,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, and you were gonna go to the test match.

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<v Speaker 2>You had tickets and you said to me, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>the weather's not looking too good, so even though I've

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<v Speaker 2>got tickets, I might not go to an all Blacks Test.

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<v Speaker 2>And now, of course you're in Wellington and you've got

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<v Speaker 2>your all black shirt on. I want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened and what's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yes, and and I think I told you that

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<v Speaker 4>in confidence when I came into the studio last time

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<v Speaker 4>and we got it through the airway. Well no, when

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<v Speaker 4>I say in not really, I told it in jest

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<v Speaker 4>and it became a larger part of the interview than

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<v Speaker 4>I thought. But no, you're right, and look, I got

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of feedback from people who said that I

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<v Speaker 4>must go, that you know it's an all Blacks game

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<v Speaker 4>and to just sort of toughen up, which, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 4>was probably the message I needed to hear because in

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<v Speaker 4>the end, my friends and I we did go. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we got pretty wet, but it was a good occasion.

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<v Speaker 4>We won that game we played. Actually the boys played

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<v Speaker 4>really well that game, which was fantastic. Today, hoping that

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<v Speaker 4>we can also get things across the line, just hoping

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<v Speaker 4>we can score in the last twenty minutes would be

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<v Speaker 4>a good, good thing for the All Blacks. So yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to it, wearing my proud All Black shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking forward to going to the game later tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you did say lovely data is it

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<v Speaker 2>lovely day?

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<v Speaker 4>It is a lovely day. I will not get rained

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<v Speaker 4>out today.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be. I think it'll be a sell out

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<v Speaker 3>there tonight, my brothers. I've got a lot of family

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<v Speaker 3>members there in Wellington going to the game. I think

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<v Speaker 3>there's about ten of them, so I've got a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of fomo there. I think it'll be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I actually I love the I love the Wellington

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<v Speaker 2>Stadium for a test match.

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<v Speaker 3>There was the I think that, well, it's the curse

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<v Speaker 3>of the Capital though, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Last time I was there. Actually I was singing the

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<v Speaker 2>anthem for the All Blacks and this is how long

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<v Speaker 2>ago it was. Guys. Scott Robertson was playing and scored

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<v Speaker 2>the first try and I think it was against the

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<v Speaker 2>spring Box and it was back in the time. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably reheatd myself. But my girlfriend, my girlfriend at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, I'm warmed up, but my now wife,

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<v Speaker 2>but girlfriend at the time. They give you tickets to

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<v Speaker 2>the game, but she got also a ground pass so

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<v Speaker 2>she could be right down on the sideline when I

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<v Speaker 2>went to do the anthem. And afterwards there's no one

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you to go and take a seat. So

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<v Speaker 2>we watched the first five or ten minutes of the

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<v Speaker 2>game like you would watch a club match, down on

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<v Speaker 2>the sideline, and we were only a few meters back

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<v Speaker 2>from it. Someone said you should probably go and take

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<v Speaker 2>your seats. But I saw Scott Robertson, I think, and

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<v Speaker 2>scored the first or second try, and he did it

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<v Speaker 2>with a bit of a flourish. It was a dive

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<v Speaker 2>over the line and he sort of arched his back

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<v Speaker 2>and stead of kicked his legs and a start and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, oh, there's a shape, bony, there's a chap

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<v Speaker 2>and of course we see him breakdancing. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun story. Yeah, maybe not that much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I no, that is a fun story to

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<v Speaker 3>tell us you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's quite It's probably one of the more intense

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<v Speaker 2>things you can do to sing an anthem for a

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<v Speaker 2>Test match. Anyway. The other thing in Wellington, guys, nieves,

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<v Speaker 2>have you ever been to the World of Wearable.

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<v Speaker 3>Ast I no, the World of Wearable Arts. Look, this

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<v Speaker 3>is it's been going for thirty five years. It's on

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<v Speaker 3>at the moment. They're expecting about thirty thousand people to

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<v Speaker 3>attend up and down the country. I mean, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just national, it's global. And I am going to make

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<v Speaker 3>an effort to go next year. Because there was a

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<v Speaker 3>group of us here in the newsroom talking about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were like half a dozen of us. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never been. I did try to get tickets and it

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<v Speaker 3>was sold out. But I'm really really impressed with it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean every time I see it on TV and

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<v Speaker 3>it just looks amazing. I mean, Brad, you've probably been there,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand times.

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<v Speaker 2>None. I bet I've never been.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been. I'm so sorry, but that is only

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<v Speaker 4>because I don't have any real appreciation for arts, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just I wouldn't know good art of it hit

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<v Speaker 4>me in the face. But what is quite impressive is

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<v Speaker 4>walking along today all of the businesses that have really

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<v Speaker 4>got in behind it. A lot of signs up saying look,

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<v Speaker 4>if you show your well To Wearable Arts ticket, you

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<v Speaker 4>know you get a discount or you might get some

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<v Speaker 4>something you know, a good option in there, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think is good because look, people are struggling, but this

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<v Speaker 4>weekend should be a big one for Wellington, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people around and it goes for a while. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got family that are coming down from Funky Day

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<v Speaker 4>in two weeks time to be part of it. So again,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it is, like you say, a much bigger thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's been running what like thirty five plus years,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's a big institutional piece and it is quite exciting. Personally,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'd be wasting a ticket, so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>excited that it's sold out and that other people seem

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<v Speaker 4>to be doing much better than I am. On the

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<v Speaker 4>cultural front.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not quite my bag. But actually this has meant

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<v Speaker 2>I can imagine Neva you. I can actually imagine you

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<v Speaker 2>in some amazing as an in some amazing outfit in

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<v Speaker 2>that show for some reason, because you've got a certain

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<v Speaker 2>style to you, and I can just imagine you rocking

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of look.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, is it because I like to wear costumes, but

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<v Speaker 3>that's eaten vegetable costumes that are we're here in the newsroom,

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<v Speaker 3>or animal costumes.

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<v Speaker 4>I can just see you've got a certain style.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to do that, But I just don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about the catwalk though. It's it's you know, how I

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<v Speaker 3>shimy down the catwalk. I don't think I could do

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<v Speaker 3>that in a serious mode or wearing big high heels

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<v Speaker 3>to lettos.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, John Key did it back in the day

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<v Speaker 4>and seemed to sort of not stuff it up too

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<v Speaker 4>much on the runway. Surely if he can do it all,

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of us can give it a credit.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's true, Brad. I like that idea, yep. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Now just on the actually, we normally we start with politics,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course I thought we'd you know, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we'd start with partly the reason I meant wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>kick off of the World a Wearable Arts and also

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<v Speaker 2>the test matches that you know what, Wellington's had a

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<v Speaker 2>tough time and it's just nice to see the Wellington's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be absolutely heaving. And I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>know from you, Brad, who are you're on the spot?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a vibe in town at the moment with

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<v Speaker 2>the AB's test and with the wow on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely yeah. I mean look walking around even yesterday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>obviously people would come into the city before things kicked

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<v Speaker 4>off this weekend, it was pretty busy. It was pretty

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<v Speaker 4>hard to move on Lampton Key yesterday afternoon. And like

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<v Speaker 4>I say, I've been out this morning, out and about,

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<v Speaker 4>and yet it's sort of been heaving. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>the exciting thing is there's sort of all different parts.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, You've got the World Wearable Arts, which will

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<v Speaker 4>attract a certain type of people. You've got the All

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<v Speaker 4>Blacks Test, who will attract sometimes the same but also

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes different groups. A lot of other people though obviously

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to go and have some good food and drink

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<v Speaker 4>around town. So I think that, plus you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>weather is better at the moment, all of that is

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<v Speaker 4>just a little bit more encouraging for what has been

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<v Speaker 4>a tougher time. So again green as shoots starting to

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<v Speaker 4>pop through. This is a good weekend for Wellington.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent stuff. And now on the entertainment news, I actually

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<v Speaker 2>just caught up with us not long before we came

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<v Speaker 2>on here. But there are some actors you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>here when they've gone. Sometimes you think, oh, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit sad. I mean, but she said an amazing life.

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<v Speaker 2>But Dame Maggie Smith has died to many people. Professor McGonagall,

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<v Speaker 2>known for the Harry Potter film. I still remember that

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<v Speaker 2>line she says, I've always wanted to do that spell

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<v Speaker 2>when she does some awesome spell. But anyway, any you're

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of Dame Maggie's work there, Brad.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh absolutely, I mean, like you say, especially Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 4>was the big one for me. But I mean she's

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<v Speaker 4>just she's done so many incredible you know, TV and

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<v Speaker 4>film contributions. So I feel like the interesting thing is now,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when people are coming out with their tribute

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<v Speaker 4>it's been quite nice to see that variety. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone remembers her for something different. So yeah, an impressive

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<v Speaker 4>legacy she leaves behind. And I think the great thing

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<v Speaker 4>there is that she's got, you know, so many different

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<v Speaker 4>things that we can go back and watch and remember,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was great in all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, definitely, Dave Meggie Smith one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorites at the age of eighty nine. Wow, what a

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<v Speaker 3>life that you know, she certainly has lived life. She's

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<v Speaker 3>been on has Brad said, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>movies and acting roles and plays and things. I loved

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<v Speaker 3>her And Downtown air b that was you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Varlet, Countess of Anthem.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it because of her. But she was just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just her, you know, just the way that

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<v Speaker 3>she was in her acting ability and in her lines,

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<v Speaker 3>the way she delivered her lines and you know those

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<v Speaker 3>clipped tones and her humor. But yes, I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>was probably one of the first stories I woke up

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<v Speaker 3>to this morning at five am when I woke up

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<v Speaker 3>and I went, oh, that's a nice reflection, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>for her life. I mean, you know, she's had a

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<v Speaker 3>great life living to eighty nine. People were saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's said that she's dead, and I thought, well, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not really. I mean, you know, she's had a good

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<v Speaker 3>she's had a good life. And we've got great memories,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, globally everyone has you know, just been

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<v Speaker 3>singing her praises from the King to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know a lot of as well.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prime Minister Sausages.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, we've got to divert to that one.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you get the name right?

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that that's one of the best little

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<v Speaker 2>misspeaks I've ever heard, when he's talking about the drama

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<v Speaker 2>in Palestine and the Hamas, and then he says, we

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<v Speaker 2>need the return of the sausages. Actually, I've got the hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>For those of you who haven't heard it, here it

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<v Speaker 2>is here call again.

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<v Speaker 3>From immediate cessfire and Gaza, the return of the sausages,

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<v Speaker 3>the hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>It's one of those things though, right like I know

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<v Speaker 4>that everyone flubs their lines every now and then, Jeez,

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<v Speaker 4>I've done it. I'm sure that all of us have.

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<v Speaker 4>But on something that important, on something that critical that

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<v Speaker 4>I mean just really you know, foot in the mouth

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<v Speaker 4>sort of syndrome there.

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<v Speaker 2>I Actually I think the mistake he made was that

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<v Speaker 2>he just paused and calmly corrected himself. But the pause

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<v Speaker 2>made it look like he didn't realize and so anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>there's all these wonderful sausage means. But we shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>used that to step away from Dame Maggie Smith. But anyway, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a great contribution to the world of theater

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<v Speaker 2>and cinema as well. Tell you what, we'll take a

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<v Speaker 2>moment to just a week group. See there are go.

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<v Speaker 3>Miss way up to week.

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<v Speaker 2>Group where the program's being presented by Elma fud. Where's

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<v Speaker 2>that wabbit. We'll be back in a moment. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the Weekend Collective News talk said, it's twenty three minutes

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<v Speaker 2>past three.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm to sexty boon my shirt to sexty bomb my

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<v Speaker 1>shirt so sexy it hurts, and I am too sexty

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<v Speaker 1>formula lean to sexy bomb Lan yorkanjer Copan.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome back to the Weekend Collective of Actually sort

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<v Speaker 2>of request of the sign. I couldn't remember what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but my producer Tyre was like, oh, yes, it's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was because it has the lyrics on the catwalk.

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<v Speaker 2>On the catwalk and I was thinking of the world

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<v Speaker 2>of wearable arts. I thought, let's but we didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>that lyric. And I'm Tim Beverdges the Weekend Collective and

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<v Speaker 2>of co of course, we also have the wonderful Brad Olsen,

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<v Speaker 2>who I think this would be on your playlist, wouldn't it, Brad?

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<v Speaker 4>But I maybe I should add it on. Maybe I should.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not at the moment, but I could add it

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<v Speaker 4>on alongside all the sort of other top forty pop

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<v Speaker 4>pits that I've got at the moment, and you need.

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<v Speaker 2>To add oh yeah by yeller of course, Becuse I

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<v Speaker 2>can see that working for you too, Brad. Okay, just

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<v Speaker 2>who needs who needs Spotify?

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<v Speaker 4>And Shazam when you've got Tim Beverage, I mean, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Shazam, right, neither? Look politics, okay, kids, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do some politics. Maths funding, more maths funding, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>taken away the Toreo funding. And basically it turns out

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<v Speaker 2>that the Terreo, the Marii Language Initiative for teachers, was

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<v Speaker 2>more than double the cost of similar courses, wasn't accredited

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<v Speaker 2>as well, with a price tag of a million one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million. And anyway, they've they've they've canceled that.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your reaction to you that, yeah, we'll look prioritizing,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the support for just just did lift the

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<v Speaker 3>maths achievement in the classrooms. I mean, I can see why.

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<v Speaker 3>I can understand. Look, maths is tough, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>they said that that a lot of kids you know,

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<v Speaker 3>falling behind failing. Funds need to be poured into that area,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just for the basics of the workbooks and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that, where you know, it just wasn't happening,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the same breast, you know, like I

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<v Speaker 3>know that this program wasn't accredited the program, however, it

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<v Speaker 3>was successful in some schools. You know, there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of mixed reaction, a lot of people, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>from the education sector that are very unhappy about this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know one school that where it was working and

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<v Speaker 3>they could see that the teachers with today or you

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<v Speaker 3>know Flatbush Primary School in South Auckland. You know, is

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<v Speaker 3>it a case of robbing you know, Peter to pay Paul?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, yeah, it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it gives the headline that any political side wants,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it. So the you know what I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a story that everyone loves because they can they

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<v Speaker 2>can tune it into their favorite gripe, don't you think, Brad, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think everyone can take what they want from the headline.

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<v Speaker 4>I think instructive for me was looking through a bit

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<v Speaker 4>more of this, the fact that you know, an evaluation

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<v Speaker 4>of the Today program has been done. It didn't find

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<v Speaker 4>any evidence that directly impacted progress or achievement for students,

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<v Speaker 4>and it couldn't quantify the impact on how much TODAY

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<v Speaker 4>was used in the classroom. So I can understand that

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<v Speaker 4>when there are limited funds, and certainly in education, there's

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<v Speaker 4>obviously a huge amount of work to do that you've

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<v Speaker 4>got to put money into places where you do think

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<v Speaker 4>you can get some of those stronger results. And here

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like it was taking from a program that

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<v Speaker 4>was actually definitively making big progress. It wasn't able to

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<v Speaker 4>be quantified, and so I think on that basis, I

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<v Speaker 4>can understand why you'd make that decision to switch the

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<v Speaker 4>funding around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, However, the bigger the bigger education announcement were a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of things on the tightening of the truancy regulations.

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<v Speaker 2>I editorialized a little bit about this during the course

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<v Speaker 2>of the week. I don't know, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the rules are really going to be

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<v Speaker 2>that enforceable because the people whose kids aren't attending, and

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<v Speaker 2>even Seamire acknowledge that we'll be finding where it can

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<v Speaker 2>make a difference, but not where it heaps misery upon misery.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I think the legislation is just about sending

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<v Speaker 2>a signal, which may in itself make a difference, don't

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<v Speaker 2>you think, Brad.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, definitely. And I do worry sometimes when we get

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<v Speaker 4>into these conversations, right when people sort of say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to do something and it's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>do anything, and I go, well, I don't know. If

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<v Speaker 4>this is going to do nothing, it might well be

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<v Speaker 4>that the effect is fairly limited. I understand that, but

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<v Speaker 4>you're right in terms of the signaling device and just

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<v Speaker 4>putting again that focus back on a topic that has

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<v Speaker 4>quite clearly deteriorated over the last couple of years. Attendance

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<v Speaker 4>has gone down. Part of that, sure is because of

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<v Speaker 4>the likes of the pandemic and similar But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think we should just sit back and go, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't do anything about it, therefore we won't try anything.

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<v Speaker 4>This is at least a bit of a shift coming through,

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<v Speaker 4>and I guess it's that focus again on a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more personal responsibility, including from family, to say, look, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>you do have an obligation to send your kids to school,

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<v Speaker 4>and if you're not, then there's got to be some

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<v Speaker 4>something that comes through on that, not to put people

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<v Speaker 4>into a more desperate position, but to at least enforce

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<v Speaker 4>upon people that there is a reason to do something

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<v Speaker 4>rather than just sit back, sit on your hands and

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<v Speaker 4>go at someone else's problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Name what is it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fifteen days, isn't it. If they don't turn up.

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<v Speaker 3>If kids don't turn up in fifteen days, basually there

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<v Speaker 3>is just.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifteen days cumulatively or is it all one shot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's cumulative as well, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean during the course of a year, that'd be

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<v Speaker 2>easy to rack up.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I mean this is the other thing

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<v Speaker 3>that everyone was talking about in different groups, about the

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<v Speaker 3>holidays and taking your kids out, you know, outside of

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<v Speaker 3>the normal school holidays and taking them overseas because it's cheaper,

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<v Speaker 3>or those who have to take family members, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>or wanting to go and see family members who are

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<v Speaker 3>overseas and they haven't seen family for you know, several

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<v Speaker 3>years and want to actually have a family holiday and

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<v Speaker 3>take their young children with them and you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an issue that has been happening for a

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<v Speaker 3>while and you know, parents thinking well, yeah, maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>can we can do this, and is it a case

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<v Speaker 3>too This is the other question of you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>your children are doing okay and the parents you know,

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<v Speaker 3>because as you say, and what Brad's saying, parents have

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<v Speaker 3>got to have that responsibility. And if your children aren't

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<v Speaker 3>doing well or I'm probably thinking more like primary school,

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<v Speaker 3>well then you know, stay there. You know, something's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be done. Take responsibility. But then a few other

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<v Speaker 3>people my friends have saying, well, you know, our children,

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<v Speaker 3>we make sure they do their homework and they're actually

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<v Speaker 3>quite smart, and you know, I'm we're quite happy with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we will take them out for seven

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<v Speaker 3>days or something like that, you know, for a holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have the problem. I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of very middle class, sort of upper middle class problem,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. If you think you're going to get in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble with you deciding and take the family of Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>it's probably not really what the focus of the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing is. Yeah, no, but it might not be.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think that it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>I worry and wonder if part of this is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>a classic example of that whole slippery slope argument where

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<v Speaker 4>people sort of go, well, you know, I can do

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<v Speaker 4>this because everything's fine, and then everyone does it, and

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<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden it's actually not so fine.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do think that this is maybe that point

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<v Speaker 4>where over the you know, a period of time, probably

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<v Speaker 4>a decade or so, sending us kids to school and

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<v Speaker 4>not taking them out, at various points, people have sort

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<v Speaker 4>of shifted away from that. They've sort of just gone

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<v Speaker 4>around the edges a bit more, a bit more, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's all now eroded away to a point where you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have people going nearly as consistently that has been

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<v Speaker 4>shown to have, you know, detrimental effects on people's learning.

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<v Speaker 4>And so now I think it's just sort of tightening

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<v Speaker 4>that leish on people again and saying, actually, look, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>everyone's taken this for a bit too much of a

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<v Speaker 4>joy ride. Now it's actually having real impacts. So we've

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<v Speaker 4>got a whole things back in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what about the teacher days, the teacher only days?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually I think that I'm I like David Seymour,

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<v Speaker 2>and I agree with him you know, a fairly chunk

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<v Speaker 2>of the time. But I thought that this was an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute bs cheap shot when he said that schools will

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<v Speaker 2>have to play their part in setting a good example

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<v Speaker 2>as well. This means not teaching taking teacher only days

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<v Speaker 2>during term time, which has got nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>truancy because actually, teacher any days. The teachers are actually

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<v Speaker 2>in school at work doing curriculum work.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they Yes, they are, that's what That's all, good,

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<v Speaker 3>Ord David seymore good. Yes, Why does he have to

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<v Speaker 3>be a Friday? Why can't you have a teacher day

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<v Speaker 3>on a Wednesday? Why is it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I can change your mind on this because actually,

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<v Speaker 2>as a parent, right and if I would rather if

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<v Speaker 2>there was a teacher only day it was just before

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<v Speaker 2>a weekend or something rather than not because it means well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it makes it. But the thing is people

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<v Speaker 2>think the teacher any days, so they can work from home,

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<v Speaker 2>a teacher any days. Actually, when they are all at

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<v Speaker 2>school working on the curriculum.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they doing working on the curriculum?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, often, and here's the other newsflash, is that often.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're a teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet no, no, my wife is all right, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't know. No, I don't. I don't pass on

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<v Speaker 2>her opinion because she doesn't like to participate in talk

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<v Speaker 2>back anything to do with it. But often the ministry

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<v Speaker 2>will give curriculum updates and they will say you must

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<v Speaker 2>do this in the next couple of weeks. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that the ministry have also been driving as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I find teacher only days sometimes frustrating, but I also

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<v Speaker 2>see the other side of it because I think that

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<v Speaker 2>here's my last word on it. I think it's way

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<v Speaker 2>too cheap a shot to always have a crack at

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<v Speaker 2>teachers as if they are slacking off. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>union doesn't do them any favors because the way they

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<v Speaker 2>present themselves. But you find anyone who has a teacher

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<v Speaker 2>in the family and tell me how they look at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year, and they are bug it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not because they're all slackers.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all tired.

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<v Speaker 4>However, I think I think the big thing here, right

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<v Speaker 4>is that you know, we're talking about truancy and taking five, ten,

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen days at a year. There's not fifteen teacher only days.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen that before in my life, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when I was at school, you had a

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<v Speaker 4>teacher only day every now and then, and like you

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<v Speaker 4>say to them, it was actually it was normally for

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<v Speaker 4>either curriculum updates. Sometimes it was for you know, go

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<v Speaker 4>through the marking because there's been a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 4>assessments all, you know, at a certain period of time,

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<v Speaker 4>and they needed to get through that because otherwise it's

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<v Speaker 4>very hard to then go, oh, well someone needs a

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<v Speaker 4>bit more help in this area. But if you've gone

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<v Speaker 4>too far through the year, you don't know that, so

0:24:17.641 --> 0:24:19.961
<v Speaker 4>you've got to take that time. And again it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things where they can start to pull resources

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<v Speaker 4>so that they're not having to be sort of as

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<v Speaker 4>frantic during the week. I mean, I think my big

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<v Speaker 4>thing was I went out of all of the things

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<v Speaker 4>that I think will make a difference in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>truancy and at people getting to school, that didn't seem

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<v Speaker 4>to be one of the big issues. I mean, realistically,

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<v Speaker 4>there are much bigger fish to fry, and I thought

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<v Speaker 4>that was just a red hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well we've had our say on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a winge as well. It's always good to

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<v Speaker 2>have a winge, though, wasn't it. Sometimes I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what talkbacks for yep, good winge exactly, but.

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<v Speaker 4>For the host or for the collback, the talkback corners,

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<v Speaker 4>just for.

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<v Speaker 3>Him Bread, you know what he's like.

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<v Speaker 2>God, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not in the studio here today. You're in Wellington, right?

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<v Speaker 4>So are we going to get booted off soon?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 4>Not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you all, but no hug for you after

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<v Speaker 2>the show.

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<v Speaker 4>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back in just a moment. It's twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>minutes to four.

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<v Speaker 5>W Oh gosh, I love a little bit of Whitney.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney Houston, Oh, Whitney.

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<v Speaker 3>He won't know Whitney because this was the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad, He's not a goldfish. She does. He is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about the world pre his existence. O, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>you love a bit of Whitney.

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<v Speaker 4>I do, I do. I'm not a gold I'm glad

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<v Speaker 4>we're clarified. I'm not a goldfish. Yeah. I was worried

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of an identity crisis there for a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, you know, gold for showy swimming around like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's this all? That's the same thing, you know, limited memory?

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever I do, I do thrash my music where I

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<v Speaker 4>listen to one song again and again and again and

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<v Speaker 4>again until I get sick of it. So at the moment,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm listening to Kessy Henderson's new song Lemonades. That's just

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<v Speaker 4>going on and on and on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a thrasher as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I throw songs to Yeah it's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, pummel that song. Actually. Also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>just on you know, I'm talking about anthems ages ago.

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<v Speaker 2>If anyone hasn't seen on YouTube Whitney Houston star Spangled

0:26:41.001 --> 0:26:48.521
<v Speaker 2>Banner the most an unbelievable vocal performance, the best anthem

0:26:48.561 --> 0:26:51.441
<v Speaker 2>performance you will ever hear. Have you seen that one? Bread?

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't. Is it better than you when you did

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<v Speaker 4>the national Oh wow, No, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Seriously, tea times bitter Bread.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so good. It's like she's got a bit

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<v Speaker 2>and you go, oh my goodness, how's she going to

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<v Speaker 2>hit these next notes? And then she just nails it

0:27:04.481 --> 0:27:06.681
<v Speaker 2>and there's a simple the orchestra and these jets fly overhead.

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<v Speaker 2>Whitney's anthem can't beat it?

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<v Speaker 4>Have you seen it?

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<v Speaker 3>Her version is the best, And I have seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>Just talking about threshing music, I've seen that. No, lie,

0:27:16.481 --> 0:27:19.041
<v Speaker 3>at least I've listened to it and seen the video

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<v Speaker 3>at least fifty times. Wow, ye, I'm not lying, that's

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<v Speaker 3>how good it is. Bread.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's good. There you go after the show, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>you just google Whitney Star Spangled Banner. It's even on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 2>But you've got to see it and just, oh my goodness,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll cry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, actually yeah, almost just on the same par as

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<v Speaker 2>old what's her name? I've forgotten. I'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 2>later on. I remember exactly what I'm talking about, but

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<v Speaker 2>the opening of the Paris Olympics, and it's completely for

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<v Speaker 2>Celine Dion's him ilin War, which was amazing too. Hey, anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>let's move on to talk about a couple of other

0:27:53.921 --> 0:27:59.281
<v Speaker 2>things now on the politics front. I loved the fact, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>that Winston gave the United Nations a telling off basically

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<v Speaker 2>when when someone's speaking, you'll be quiet and listen, because

0:28:05.721 --> 0:28:08.561
<v Speaker 2>they were talking and he was looking around. He Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm loving Winston as foreign minister.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think I think Winston Peter's does a good,

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<v Speaker 4>no better than that, a great job as foreign minister.

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<v Speaker 4>He really does. I mean to shush. The United Nations

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<v Speaker 4>Security Council is quite quite a feat but also I

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<v Speaker 4>think it actually played into what he was saying in

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<v Speaker 4>his speech. You know, he was talking about the veto

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<v Speaker 4>power and how you know, basically yesterday's great powers still

0:28:31.121 --> 0:28:35.201
<v Speaker 4>have huge veto power on how this big global institution happens,

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<v Speaker 4>and they weren't even doing him the service of listening

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<v Speaker 4>to what. You know, New Zealand we're a smaller country.

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<v Speaker 4>We still were a big part of setting the UN up,

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<v Speaker 4>but we weren't you know, a major power, and everyone

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<v Speaker 4>was just ignoring him and sort of sniggering and talking

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<v Speaker 4>in the background. So I actually I give him a

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<v Speaker 4>huge kudos, not only for sort of saying the quite

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<v Speaker 4>a bit out loud, but actually for proving his point

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<v Speaker 4>a bit more that they don't really care and they're

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<v Speaker 4>not really listening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I totally agree. I mean when I saw that

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<v Speaker 3>this is Winston Peter's at his best oversea, I mean,

0:29:06.041 --> 0:29:09.041
<v Speaker 3>you know how everyone and probably here in New Zealand

0:29:09.361 --> 0:29:11.761
<v Speaker 3>a lot of us can either you know, he's polarizing,

0:29:11.841 --> 0:29:13.521
<v Speaker 3>we take him or leave him, and some of the

0:29:13.601 --> 0:29:16.401
<v Speaker 3>things he says, you know people, ah, but when he's

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<v Speaker 3>on that global stage, he's flipping amazing, and as a

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<v Speaker 3>foreign minister. I think he's great. How old is he's

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<v Speaker 3>in his mid seventies. Actually he's seventy nice mid seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Google, Google, do you know his age?

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<v Speaker 4>Like he is. He spoke to me a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>He's here, there, everywhere. He's spent so much time overseas

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<v Speaker 3>and he hasn't lost the plot and he's flipping brilliant

0:29:38.921 --> 0:29:41.841
<v Speaker 3>over there. And when he was speaking there and he

0:29:41.961 --> 0:29:44.361
<v Speaker 3>told everyone to shush. You look at his face, and

0:29:44.521 --> 0:29:47.521
<v Speaker 3>he had that stern look that New Zealand has known.

0:29:47.601 --> 0:29:49.721
<v Speaker 3>He thought right, you know, and I thought good on

0:29:49.881 --> 0:29:53.321
<v Speaker 3>him too, because this was a serious subject. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like it when people are murmuring and talking

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm speaking, and you know, and when he just

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<v Speaker 3>been in and even though mine's not as mine's not

0:30:02.161 --> 0:30:05.681
<v Speaker 3>as important as what he's saying. But I thought, good

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<v Speaker 3>on you. And you know, he's making traction. You'll we're

0:30:08.281 --> 0:30:10.681
<v Speaker 3>a small country, but we want to be heard and

0:30:10.801 --> 0:30:11.841
<v Speaker 3>he's doing the business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Seventy nine. By the way, he's seventy nine, says

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<v Speaker 2>eleventh of April nine and forty five is born. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that what you've got there, Brad?

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<v Speaker 4>That is exactly what my googling told me as well.

0:30:21.601 --> 0:30:24.721
<v Speaker 4>But I think that that point's important though, that like,

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<v Speaker 4>actually we're doing pretty well on the foreign affairs front

0:30:27.601 --> 0:30:29.201
<v Speaker 4>at the moment, and I think I mean, look, Winston

0:30:29.241 --> 0:30:32.281
<v Speaker 4>Peter's obviously as Foreign Affairs Minister is a big part

0:30:32.321 --> 0:30:35.121
<v Speaker 4>of that, but actually looking through what our diplomats doing

0:30:35.161 --> 0:30:37.321
<v Speaker 4>across the world, that's a big part. This week we

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<v Speaker 4>signed off a trade deal with the United Arab Emirates

0:30:40.641 --> 0:30:43.401
<v Speaker 4>four months Like normally those things take four years, if

0:30:43.481 --> 0:30:46.321
<v Speaker 4>not sometimes four decades. So to sort of smash that

0:30:46.401 --> 0:30:48.801
<v Speaker 4>one out in four months is sort of testament to

0:30:48.841 --> 0:30:50.841
<v Speaker 4>a huge amount of work that the Foreign Ministry and

0:30:51.601 --> 0:30:54.081
<v Speaker 4>all of the government counterparts been doing. That sort of

0:30:54.081 --> 0:30:56.761
<v Speaker 4>stuff is how New Zealand, small little trading nation at

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<v Speaker 4>the bottom of the South Pacific, that's our lifeblood making

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<v Speaker 4>sure we've got those sort of connections overseas. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>actually I've been really impressed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Actually I thought also it almost distracts from the

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<v Speaker 2>speech that he gave when he I loved the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that he called Russia out for using its veto and

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Russia's delinquency and the as it's whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>right of Veto on the Security Council, but also just

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<v Speaker 2>how he stood up for smaller nations and said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not about our size, it's about I'm paraphrasing from my memory,

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<v Speaker 2>but he basically said, it's about the values and the

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<v Speaker 2>quality of of of what we bring to it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our values and the and the ethics or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 2>I just sort of thought he made a very good point.

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<v Speaker 2>So so good on your Winny. I reckon now just

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<v Speaker 2>before we go to the break, I do love this one.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, tell you what, maybe we'll save it because

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have a chat about chat about the bridget

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<v Speaker 2>and ball flop that Bridgeton fans have been left fuming

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<v Speaker 2>after this unofficial ball and I'll give you the facts afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>actually because it's quite fun. Nevehs loves this one. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be back in just a moment. It's twelve and

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<v Speaker 2>a half two four News Talk said, be.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, help.

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<v Speaker 2>You say gone, Fay say, I say so. I used

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<v Speaker 2>to tuck in soon. Welcome back to the Weekend Collective.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the song that Brad has been flogging, isn't it? Brad?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great one, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>By Cassie Henderson is that it's the one it came

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<v Speaker 2>out on Friday. Even though I can see you down

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<v Speaker 2>the zoom and you're just grooving in the studio, just singing.

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell there's a mover there. I tell you what,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a mover.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a reason I kept my mic, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>muted for a period. But you know that she's a professional.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm definitely not. But on the dancing front, you gonta

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<v Speaker 4>have a groove for something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, you'll be grooving to this all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the game tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, just quickly, We're just touch on another little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more on the politics front before we get to bridge it.

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<v Speaker 2>In Dunedin Hospital, there's big protests the downgrading of the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems that they didn't budget enough. It blew out

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<v Speaker 2>from ten thousand square meter at a thirty thousand a

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<v Speaker 2>square meter. I can't even get my head around this, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm manhanded over to the economist. Has there been

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<v Speaker 2>some balls ups along the way in terms of what

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<v Speaker 2>we think it's going to cost versus we need to

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<v Speaker 2>include X, Y and z the contingency.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, this is the challenge, right, So I've had a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a look at the numbers. In anticipation of

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<v Speaker 4>this question, stats in Z says that hospital builds are

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<v Speaker 4>now compared to when the project was sort of first

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<v Speaker 4>put together in twenty seventeen, hospital build costs of increased

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<v Speaker 4>by about forty nine percent, one of the largest increases

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<v Speaker 4>of any building type in the country. So I understand

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<v Speaker 4>the increase to a degree. But the struggle I have

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<v Speaker 4>is that not only the fact that the number's gone up,

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<v Speaker 4>but actually there's still not a finalized cost. There is

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<v Speaker 4>still not a finalized plan, and we don't know exactly

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<v Speaker 4>where it's going. Like, how have we let ourselves get

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<v Speaker 4>to such a big, big project again and again and again.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not the only time, right tim, that we've

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<v Speaker 4>talked about something like a big cost blowout, This one

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<v Speaker 4>seems to have come up. There's still no real light

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the tunnel on this, and I

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<v Speaker 4>totally feel for the local community who are going you know, everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>every politician of every stripe has promised us the world

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<v Speaker 4>and been unable to deliver. But I also understand why

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<v Speaker 4>the government has said, look, we can't just keep throwing

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<v Speaker 4>more and more money to get the most expensive hospital

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<v Speaker 4>in the sort of you know, southern hemisphere, so that

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<v Speaker 4>there's a difficult compromise here, but there's no good options

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<v Speaker 4>and someone really should be how accountable? Why haven't we

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<v Speaker 4>done the sums on this properly? Why haven't we planned

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<v Speaker 4>it out? And probably why importantly did we go out

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty seventeen and put a stake in the ground

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<v Speaker 4>and say, look, we've done no real planning but it's

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to cost about this, and you just everyone

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<v Speaker 4>hopes that it's going to cost it. Hope is not

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<v Speaker 4>a good plan.

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<v Speaker 2>No knaves because yeah, I believe they'd hadn't even budgeted

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<v Speaker 2>for pathology and things like that, and a whole well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>He should roll someone, you know, I mean, it's still

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<v Speaker 3>a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Role of the previous government's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>But look this is where the community and today on

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<v Speaker 3>the streets of Dunedin there's that massive protest. The story

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<v Speaker 3>is there and the Herald have seen the photos as well,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is where the regions and they're in Dunedin,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole of Otago have come out. You can see

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<v Speaker 3>their fury, their disappointment, their anger. They're led by the

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<v Speaker 3>Mayor Jules Raddock and they're all holding all these different signs.

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<v Speaker 3>They've got good weather down there in Dunedin at the moment,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's really good that it's not raining because the

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<v Speaker 3>doctors and nurses, they've got all the you know, the paraphernalia,

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital beds are out there and they're all out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably you know, if you see this protest and

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<v Speaker 3>see the photos and the videos, you can really sense

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<v Speaker 3>their anger and where they're at with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>My big worry looking at this right is that how

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<v Speaker 4>many times are we going to go through this again?

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<v Speaker 4>Nelson's needing a new hospital, Fungiday needs one as well

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<v Speaker 4>with as Hawk's Bay, Parmi. There's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>regional hospitals that are going to need to go through this.

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<v Speaker 4>How have we not yet got like a base New

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<v Speaker 4>Zealand hospital build plan that sits in you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>top draw at the Ministry of Health that every time

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<v Speaker 4>we do a hospital they bring it down and said

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<v Speaker 4>I want one of those. Actually order five of them

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<v Speaker 4>and go and construct them, you know, or make sure

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<v Speaker 4>they're all pre fabricat and then we'll go and whack

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<v Speaker 4>it up. Because, like I say, my worry is not

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<v Speaker 4>so much this. This is obviously a critical issue. But

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<v Speaker 4>if this has happened once, how many more times are

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<v Speaker 4>we going to go through the exact same bit of standardization?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Good on you just correctly now. Of course I

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<v Speaker 2>did promise this one, but Neeves the Bridgeton ball, there

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<v Speaker 2>was an unofficial ball in Detroit based on the next

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix show. My suspicion is it's in Detroit. Anyway, it

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<v Speaker 2>turned out to be. I am a huge cheap decor

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<v Speaker 2>and just a stripper for entertainment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible. I mean, look at the bridget I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>huge Bridgeton fan, and this has got nothing. This this

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<v Speaker 3>was this is a scam basically, so it hasn't been

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<v Speaker 3>organized at all by Netflix or you know, the production company.

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<v Speaker 3>But you had all these people paying from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like five hundred dollars, three hundred dollars going to this

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<v Speaker 3>ball and undercooked food. I had to laugh out loud

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<v Speaker 3>when I saw the stripper in the middle of it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, with the pole dancer, and I thought, that

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<v Speaker 3>is not Bridgeton. It was never Bridgeton in the series.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like what, I'm glad you've clarified this because

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<v Speaker 4>I've never watched Bridgeton. I don't know what I was

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to find there, so I'm glad that it was.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, honestly, what an absolute markup. All I can

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<v Speaker 4>say is that, as someone who's never watched the show,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that you know, apparently there are better things

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<v Speaker 4>than the strippers and the pole dancers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you what, All those disappointed people in

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit just get on a plane and go to Wellington

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<v Speaker 2>for the World of whereable Art's there. You go, Hey, Brad,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you mate, Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on the panel. Always good fun and neither ready mano.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you against you You'll see again, Love you Brad.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to have a boogie. We'll have a boogie

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<v Speaker 3>next month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll be back with the Wonder Afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>Your show as next. This is News Talk z B.

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