WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: November 10, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.135 --> 0:00:12.055 wolf Camp from News Talks at Bay. 0:00:19.055 --> 0:00:24.535 The house is a hole even when it's dark, even 0:00:24.575 --> 0:00:29.735 when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even when 0:00:29.775 --> 0:00:30.535 a dog. 0:00:30.535 --> 0:00:33.655 Is too old to bar, and. 0:00:33.655 --> 0:00:38.055 When you're sitting at the table trying not to start 0:00:38.975 --> 0:00:45.095 scissor home, even when we are band gone, even when 0:00:45.215 --> 0:01:00.455 you're there alone. A house is a hole, even when 0:01:00.535 --> 0:01:04.895 those goes, even when you got around from the world. 0:01:05.015 --> 0:01:13.375 You love your moves, scream broken plans, being in funder locals, 0:01:13.455 --> 0:01:22.335 vestball when they're gone, leaving the cars, even when weilravan long, 0:01:23.375 --> 0:01:25.055 even when you're there. 0:01:25.015 --> 0:01:36.415 Alone, And a very good morning to you. It is 0:01:36.935 --> 0:01:39.975 a beautiful Sunday morning. Actually, it was a gorgeous sunrise 0:01:40.015 --> 0:01:42.695 as I headed across the Harbor Bridge this morning on 0:01:42.695 --> 0:01:45.575 my way into the city and caught a glimpse of 0:01:45.615 --> 0:01:49.095 the sun rising through the Putakaoa trees alongside the beach 0:01:49.255 --> 0:01:52.775 not far from where we live. Stunning, stunning day. So 0:01:52.775 --> 0:01:54.535 hopefully it's going to be a beautiful day. I know 0:01:54.655 --> 0:01:58.055 that it has been terrible, terrible weather in parts of 0:01:58.095 --> 0:02:02.415 the South Island and reports of severe damage to the 0:02:02.455 --> 0:02:07.935 motorway network and pictures of cars floating down rivers down 0:02:08.455 --> 0:02:10.975 in the South Island as well, so a day of 0:02:11.135 --> 0:02:14.215 some contrast. Anyway, good morning, welcome along to the show. 0:02:14.255 --> 0:02:16.615 My name's Pete wolf Camp, the resident Builder, and this 0:02:17.175 --> 0:02:20.455 is the Resident Builder on Sunday, an opportunity to talk 0:02:20.575 --> 0:02:23.975 all things building and construction. And when you start to 0:02:24.015 --> 0:02:27.255 look at building and construction, you recognize, I guess the 0:02:27.735 --> 0:02:30.695 sheer scale and scope of it in terms of how 0:02:30.695 --> 0:02:34.775 it intersects with our own lives, that there was a 0:02:34.855 --> 0:02:38.055 job that I suddenly something changed at our place yesterday. 0:02:38.055 --> 0:02:39.855 There's a gap in the fence, right, I've got to 0:02:39.855 --> 0:02:42.535 fix that. That goes on to another list of things 0:02:42.535 --> 0:02:44.295 that I've got to do. So that's one part of 0:02:44.335 --> 0:02:47.175 it I was at. Actually I had the opportunity and 0:02:47.295 --> 0:02:51.135 very kindly invited along to the Apprentice of the Year. 0:02:51.175 --> 0:02:54.255 This is the Carpentry Apprentice of the Year, sponsored by 0:02:55.495 --> 0:02:59.015 Master Builders, sponsored by Carts and undoubtedly a few others, 0:02:59.695 --> 0:03:00.895 and I went out and had to look at the 0:03:00.935 --> 0:03:03.335 practical part of it. This is where the top nine 0:03:03.455 --> 0:03:06.735 apprentices from around the country who have won their regional 0:03:06.775 --> 0:03:09.495 events then compete in a practical challenge. I'll tell you 0:03:09.535 --> 0:03:11.935 a bit more about that later on. And then on 0:03:12.015 --> 0:03:15.935 Friday night at Agala in the city, a formal dinner 0:03:16.135 --> 0:03:19.615 were awarded or the Apprentice of the Year was awarded, 0:03:19.975 --> 0:03:23.495 and you know, so apprenticeships, training, that's all part of 0:03:23.895 --> 0:03:27.295 the construction sector. And then actually I was just tuning 0:03:27.335 --> 0:03:29.255 in and getting things set up here and I've just 0:03:29.655 --> 0:03:32.815 looked at this headline why a builder called the cops 0:03:32.815 --> 0:03:34.575 on a couple that had just built a house for 0:03:34.735 --> 0:03:38.615 so maybe disputes and debate and discussion around how good 0:03:38.655 --> 0:03:40.935 the work is. That's all part of construction as well. 0:03:41.015 --> 0:03:44.775 So at intersects. I think buildings intersects without our lives 0:03:44.815 --> 0:03:47.775 all of the time. So if you've got a question 0:03:47.895 --> 0:03:52.015 about a maintenance project, a question about a new build, 0:03:52.335 --> 0:03:55.055 a question about regulations, which is a big part of 0:03:55.815 --> 0:03:59.375 what we often talk about on the show, questions about 0:03:59.415 --> 0:04:04.015 trades people, questions about sort of managing trades, people selecting 0:04:04.375 --> 0:04:09.375 products and items constantly as well, then this is the 0:04:09.415 --> 0:04:11.575 show for you. Looking forward to your calls, your conversation 0:04:11.695 --> 0:04:15.255 this morning here at Newstalk SEB. A little bit later on, 0:04:15.855 --> 0:04:18.975 and in fact, I bumped into Jay, our painting expert 0:04:19.055 --> 0:04:23.855 from Razine at the Construct event which ran alongside or 0:04:23.855 --> 0:04:28.095 the practical part of the Apprentice of the Year was 0:04:28.095 --> 0:04:30.735 happening at the same time as the trade show Constructed 0:04:30.815 --> 0:04:33.655 was happening on the North Shore on Thursday, so bumped 0:04:33.655 --> 0:04:37.895 into both Ray to j and Bryce out to regular 0:04:38.095 --> 0:04:41.615 Razine painting experts. If you've ever wondered what they look like. 0:04:41.615 --> 0:04:43.935 There's a little photograph on my Facebook page of the 0:04:43.975 --> 0:04:47.655 three of us on Thursday, so I'm the ugly one 0:04:47.695 --> 0:04:50.655 in the corner. So Jay will be with us from 0:04:50.695 --> 0:04:54.175 around seven twenty five. If you've got a painting question 0:04:54.255 --> 0:04:57.695 that you'd like a specific answer to, then give me 0:04:57.735 --> 0:05:00.055 a specific question and I'll put it to Jay, our 0:05:00.095 --> 0:05:03.415 painting expert at around seven to twenty five this morning. 0:05:03.935 --> 0:05:06.175 As always we jump into the garden with roud Climb, 0:05:06.535 --> 0:05:09.575 so if you've got a gardening or entomological question, d 0:05:09.815 --> 0:05:12.575 will be available from eight point thirty this morning. And 0:05:13.575 --> 0:05:15.455 to be fair, I'm not hanging around after the show, 0:05:15.575 --> 0:05:18.615 not that it matters to you a jot, but I'm 0:05:18.655 --> 0:05:21.335 going to shoot off from here. I've got some jobs 0:05:21.335 --> 0:05:24.895 to do at the Saint Leo's Catholic Primary School Fair, 0:05:25.455 --> 0:05:28.535 which is an annual event in Devenport and Auckland's north Shore. 0:05:29.055 --> 0:05:30.815 The fair kicks off, by the way, I'll mentioned this 0:05:30.855 --> 0:05:32.815 a couple of times to be fair. To be fair 0:05:32.815 --> 0:05:37.095 about the fair at eleven o'clock this morning, so I 0:05:37.135 --> 0:05:39.775 went and picked up a generator from high Pool that'll 0:05:39.815 --> 0:05:42.895 run all the food stands. So I've got to go 0:05:42.935 --> 0:05:45.655 and run out some extension cords and check a few things. 0:05:46.175 --> 0:05:47.775 That'll be me for the rest of it. Well, for 0:05:47.815 --> 0:05:49.895 a decent chunk of the day at the Saint Leo's 0:05:50.255 --> 0:05:54.575 Catholic Primary School in Devenport on the Auckland north Shore, 0:05:55.255 --> 0:05:58.735 eleven till three. Great food, can I say as well? 0:05:58.815 --> 0:06:02.255 And the White Elephant Boy they collect some great stuff 0:06:02.255 --> 0:06:03.935 in there as well. So there you go. That's my 0:06:04.015 --> 0:06:06.255 plug for the Saint Leo's School fair later on today. 0:06:06.415 --> 0:06:08.455 If you're looking for something to do and you can 0:06:08.495 --> 0:06:11.255 handle that road, it'd be lovely to see you there. Right, 0:06:11.615 --> 0:06:14.575 let's get into it. What's on your mind? What either 0:06:14.695 --> 0:06:18.855 troubles you, intrigues you keeps you awake at night, or 0:06:19.015 --> 0:06:22.615 you're just generally curious about all things building and construction. 0:06:22.775 --> 0:06:25.695 If you've got a question, i'd really I'll give it 0:06:25.775 --> 0:06:28.815 a red hot crack at giving you a decent answer 0:06:28.855 --> 0:06:31.815 on that. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:06:31.855 --> 0:06:34.255 the number to call. Hazel A very good morning to you. 0:06:35.535 --> 0:06:41.615 Good morning. I'm ashamed to say no maintenance has been 0:06:41.655 --> 0:06:48.975 done on a dirty plus years and it's that's hardboard 0:06:49.055 --> 0:06:53.375 that's made to look like timber with grain in it. Now, 0:06:53.695 --> 0:06:59.415 my son in law is coming up to replace a 0:06:59.535 --> 0:07:07.415 rotten Hopes board and he has to lift the where 0:07:07.495 --> 0:07:11.255 the roof comes over the top of it to take 0:07:11.255 --> 0:07:18.615 it off. He's going to clean the area before he 0:07:18.655 --> 0:07:25.695 does it. Now, if he was to use water blasting, 0:07:26.895 --> 0:07:27.815 that wouldn't be good. 0:07:27.935 --> 0:07:28.175 Good. 0:07:29.935 --> 0:07:33.415 Let's just go back a step. So the weatherboard product 0:07:33.455 --> 0:07:37.615 that you're talking about, is it's effectively like a hardboard 0:07:39.255 --> 0:07:43.975 that was then no, no, it's. 0:07:45.495 --> 0:07:46.495 Like fiber light. 0:07:46.775 --> 0:07:50.495 Yeah, okay, if it is a fiber cement sheet, then yeah, 0:07:50.615 --> 0:07:54.495 you can use a water blaster. But really, what before 0:07:54.535 --> 0:07:57.255 you do any exterior paint prep. What you well, the 0:07:57.295 --> 0:08:00.655 paint prep you should be doing is essentially using proprietary 0:08:00.855 --> 0:08:04.615 wash like a house washed product, applying that and rinsing 0:08:04.655 --> 0:08:06.815 it off. And yes, you can use use the water 0:08:06.815 --> 0:08:08.935 blast to add a distance to rinse it off. But 0:08:09.135 --> 0:08:12.575 you know, water blasting houses two or three inches away 0:08:12.575 --> 0:08:15.135 from the surface is certainly not recommended. 0:08:16.455 --> 0:08:18.615 Yes, what's that? 0:08:19.295 --> 0:08:22.215 And the condition of the The other thing is you 0:08:22.375 --> 0:08:25.255 need to be a little bit gentle with older fiber 0:08:25.295 --> 0:08:29.175 cement sheets because they do get a little bit brittle. 0:08:29.495 --> 0:08:32.255 So that's another reason not to apply too much force 0:08:32.335 --> 0:08:36.655 when you're cleaning or prepping them, because in some cases 0:08:36.695 --> 0:08:37.935 you can get some breakages. 0:08:39.815 --> 0:08:43.775 Yes, there's mold growing on. 0:08:45.175 --> 0:08:48.295 Well again if you use something like well, we'll be 0:08:48.335 --> 0:08:50.495 talking to j from Razine later on. They have a 0:08:50.575 --> 0:08:54.575 house wash prep which will also deal with that mold 0:08:54.615 --> 0:08:57.495 and all of that sort of organic material that builds up. 0:08:57.535 --> 0:09:02.455 So apply that agitate lightly, let it sit there for 0:09:02.455 --> 0:09:05.375 a little while, and then rinse it off, and then 0:09:05.695 --> 0:09:09.255 that you'll with the organic material. You probably don't even 0:09:09.335 --> 0:09:11.335 really need to give it a sand or if you did, 0:09:11.375 --> 0:09:14.055 just a very light sand, I would actually suggest, and 0:09:14.135 --> 0:09:17.055 I know we're straying into painting territory here a primer 0:09:17.175 --> 0:09:19.615 and then two top coats. 0:09:19.975 --> 0:09:27.335 Is the houses underneath account wood tree. The tree has 0:09:27.455 --> 0:09:34.495 over overhung the house, right, and that's why that area 0:09:35.255 --> 0:09:37.695 when you get to the other end of the house 0:09:37.735 --> 0:09:42.455 where the garret comes out, the budge board is in 0:09:42.575 --> 0:09:47.695 good conditions and just needs painting. But where the tree 0:09:47.775 --> 0:09:54.055 has ever hung the house, it's called when we water 0:09:54.295 --> 0:09:57.815 thirty years ago. The previous zone is that had it 0:09:58.175 --> 0:10:04.975 for two years, and the water drinking on the constant 0:10:05.535 --> 0:10:08.975 the tree. He was actually banging on the roof when 0:10:09.095 --> 0:10:14.855 we came. But the drive is between the tree and 0:10:14.935 --> 0:10:19.255 the house. And so. 0:10:21.015 --> 0:10:24.015 I think too, Hazel, you know, I mean, I'm obviously 0:10:24.055 --> 0:10:26.615 a big fan of suggesting that we need to do 0:10:26.815 --> 0:10:30.015 regular maintenance, and there are huge advantages to doing it. 0:10:30.375 --> 0:10:33.415 But I think also with some types of houses, and 0:10:33.455 --> 0:10:38.175 yours sounds quite robust. It's I don't want to encourage this, 0:10:38.255 --> 0:10:41.935 but it's amazing sometimes just how robust they are and 0:10:41.935 --> 0:10:45.695 how resilient they are. And something like the fiber cment sheet, 0:10:45.735 --> 0:10:48.735 for example, you know that will be probably a lot 0:10:48.735 --> 0:10:51.935 more durable over time with little to no maintenance on 0:10:52.015 --> 0:10:55.695 it than some other products. So you know, I don't 0:10:55.735 --> 0:10:57.735 think you should feel too bad about it in the 0:10:57.775 --> 0:11:02.175 sense that there's probably very little permanent damage done. But 0:11:02.255 --> 0:11:04.335 if you can get up and replace the barge boards, 0:11:04.535 --> 0:11:06.975 and I mean, look, I had some eyes that I 0:11:07.015 --> 0:11:11.415 know working for someone the other day replacing a barge 0:11:11.415 --> 0:11:14.575 board on a house, and that had been well maintained. 0:11:14.615 --> 0:11:17.095 It's just that one happened to rot out other barge 0:11:17.095 --> 0:11:19.535 boards around the house. So I wouldn't beat yourself up 0:11:19.575 --> 0:11:23.015 too much, Hazel, I'm too. 0:11:22.855 --> 0:11:26.335 Old to do it. I used to do maintenance. We 0:11:26.455 --> 0:11:31.495 had a holiday home and we painted. I painted the 0:11:31.615 --> 0:11:37.175 roofs and did all that years ago that i'm too 0:11:37.215 --> 0:11:42.175 old now to I have heard to go I'm not Yeah, 0:11:42.495 --> 0:11:42.975 you don't. 0:11:42.775 --> 0:11:46.775 Want to be up a ladder. No, look, Hazel, it's 0:11:46.775 --> 0:11:49.255 great that someone's coming to help you. It's your family 0:11:49.295 --> 0:11:52.815 that are coming to help out. I'm sure it'll be 0:11:52.855 --> 0:11:56.895 absolutely fine. Just easy on the water blasting and it'll 0:11:56.895 --> 0:11:59.695 be all good. Lovely to talk with you, Hazel, take 0:11:59.735 --> 0:12:02.855 care it is. Let me see eighteen almost eighteen and 0:12:02.855 --> 0:12:04.735 a half minutes after six. We've got a couple of 0:12:04.735 --> 0:12:06.895 spare lines. We always get busy laid in the show, 0:12:06.935 --> 0:12:09.775 so if you've got a question then call now, oh 0:12:09.815 --> 0:12:12.295 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can text as 0:12:12.335 --> 0:12:15.815 well any questions. Remember our painting expert j will be 0:12:15.855 --> 0:12:18.615 along at around seven twenty five seven thirty this morning. 0:12:18.855 --> 0:12:21.295 So if you've got any specific painting questions or you've 0:12:21.335 --> 0:12:24.175 got some general building questions, text them through nine to 0:12:24.455 --> 0:12:26.695 ninety two. If you'd like to email me, particularly with 0:12:26.735 --> 0:12:29.815 things like pictures and so on, then it's Pete atnewstok 0:12:29.855 --> 0:12:33.015 SB dot co dot n said quick text before we 0:12:33.055 --> 0:12:35.735 go to the bait break building a deck? Are we 0:12:35.895 --> 0:12:40.615 better off using random links or finger jointed quila? You've 0:12:40.655 --> 0:12:43.415 caught me on the hot there alistair, I didn't realize 0:12:43.415 --> 0:12:47.335 that you could buy finger jointed queller. I guess I 0:12:47.335 --> 0:12:52.735 don't see why you shouldn't use it. I suppose the 0:12:52.735 --> 0:12:55.895 advantages that it would come in a regular length, like 0:12:55.935 --> 0:12:59.135 they'll all be four point eight or five point four 0:12:59.215 --> 0:13:02.655 meters long, which case, if that's an advantage, that's great. 0:13:03.055 --> 0:13:05.055 I mean, I don't think anyone really ever looks at 0:13:05.055 --> 0:13:07.095 a deck and goes, oh, gosh, there's a join there. 0:13:07.255 --> 0:13:10.495 Isn't that unfortunate. If they're neatly detailed, then it's great. 0:13:10.815 --> 0:13:12.575 Although I tell you what, he's a little tip for you. 0:13:12.775 --> 0:13:15.255 Make sure that if you do end up with random 0:13:15.415 --> 0:13:18.215 lengths of timber and you're cutting them and then but 0:13:18.415 --> 0:13:21.855 joining them together, take the thirty seconds it takes to 0:13:21.935 --> 0:13:24.975 take a piece of sandpaper from your apron and just 0:13:25.655 --> 0:13:28.655 give that edge a sand, just a light sand to 0:13:28.735 --> 0:13:33.135 remove the last little bits of furry fiber that poke up. 0:13:33.175 --> 0:13:35.175 I went and had to look at a job the 0:13:35.175 --> 0:13:37.295 other day, I'm not going to say where it was 0:13:37.375 --> 0:13:39.735 or whatever, and we were looking at sort of the 0:13:39.855 --> 0:13:42.375 overall quality of it, et cetera, et cetera. And as 0:13:42.415 --> 0:13:44.415 I wandered around, they just laid a brand new deck 0:13:44.455 --> 0:13:47.815 actually just using pine decking, which is absolutely fine. And 0:13:47.895 --> 0:13:50.975 they'd used straight runs of pine and then had it 0:13:51.015 --> 0:13:54.495 trimmed with like effectively a face or a barge running 0:13:54.535 --> 0:13:57.135 around the perimeter to hide the end grain, which is lovely, 0:13:57.495 --> 0:13:59.775 but no one had taken the time just to take 0:13:59.815 --> 0:14:03.335 a bit of sandpaper and just rub that little furry 0:14:03.335 --> 0:14:06.655 bit off the edge of the cut. Looked at that 0:14:06.695 --> 0:14:09.295 and thought that deck would look a lot better with 0:14:09.415 --> 0:14:11.975 just that little little bit of attention to detail. So 0:14:12.055 --> 0:14:15.055 there you go. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 0:14:15.135 --> 0:14:17.055 number to call. We'll take a short break, will take 0:14:17.175 --> 0:14:19.295 your calls straight after the break. So call us now 0:14:19.495 --> 0:14:21.895 eight hundred eighty ten eighty. You're with new SOKB. A 0:14:21.935 --> 0:14:23.855 couple of quick texts as well, but love you call 0:14:23.975 --> 0:14:27.175 so I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number 0:14:27.215 --> 0:14:31.015 to call? Sorry about that morning, Pete. We have an 0:14:31.175 --> 0:14:35.135 MDF lacquered kitchen cabinetry. The door has a small has 0:14:35.175 --> 0:14:38.975 some small swelling due to water. I'd like to repair 0:14:39.095 --> 0:14:42.415 and relacquer the cupboard frontage. Do you have any suggestions 0:14:42.775 --> 0:14:46.855 on the best approach to a repair for that? Look 0:14:46.895 --> 0:14:51.055 One of the challenges with MDF typically, particularly older MDF, 0:14:51.135 --> 0:14:54.415 So there's a new sort of variety of MDF which 0:14:54.455 --> 0:14:59.135 has more resistance to moisture, and it's it's built into 0:14:59.175 --> 0:15:01.695 the product at the time of manufacture, so it's not 0:15:01.855 --> 0:15:05.055 like standard, the old fashioned standard MDF, where if you 0:15:05.135 --> 0:15:07.855 got it wet, it will well and once it's swollen, 0:15:08.775 --> 0:15:12.135 apart from standing it vigorously, there's very little you can 0:15:12.135 --> 0:15:15.695 do about that. So if it's a slightly older kitchen, 0:15:16.135 --> 0:15:18.255 or if you know what type of MDF was used 0:15:18.255 --> 0:15:22.895 in the actual doors, chances are you won't be able 0:15:22.895 --> 0:15:24.895 to do a lot about the swelling of the door 0:15:25.015 --> 0:15:27.855 without sort of stripping the door quite extensively and then 0:15:27.975 --> 0:15:31.455 having it relackered. If you know who made the door 0:15:31.495 --> 0:15:34.055 the kitchen in the first place. I'd be tempted to 0:15:34.095 --> 0:15:36.855 invite them back and have a look at There are 0:15:36.895 --> 0:15:39.575 some companies that come and do the spraying on site, 0:15:39.775 --> 0:15:41.535 so they'll do a color match, or if you still 0:15:41.535 --> 0:15:44.415 have records of the color, they'll do a color match 0:15:44.575 --> 0:15:48.495 or have those records and respray the cabinetry in situ. 0:15:49.055 --> 0:15:51.095 It might be a case that someone comes along, takes 0:15:51.135 --> 0:15:53.975 the cabinetry or the frontages off, takes them to the 0:15:54.015 --> 0:15:58.255 factory and resprays them, and then comes and reinstalls them. 0:15:58.455 --> 0:16:01.855 It's given that it's a lacquer. It's really hard to 0:16:01.895 --> 0:16:06.895 do yourself, let's say, unless you've got spray equipment and 0:16:06.935 --> 0:16:08.895 the right type of paint and so on and so forth. 0:16:08.935 --> 0:16:12.015 So there are some kitchen makeover type companies that are 0:16:12.055 --> 0:16:16.335 out there as well. I'd be getting in touch with them. Shower, 0:16:16.815 --> 0:16:18.975 here's a shower question for you. Showers are a bit 0:16:18.975 --> 0:16:20.895 old and I want to update it. Can I replace 0:16:21.055 --> 0:16:22.935 just the frame or do I have to change the 0:16:22.975 --> 0:16:27.535 liner and the pan? Is it di wiable? Well, ultimately 0:16:27.535 --> 0:16:29.455 everything's di wible. If you really want to have a 0:16:29.455 --> 0:16:32.855 crack now in this case, you can. It'll just be 0:16:32.935 --> 0:16:36.575 a case of finding an off the shelf shower screen 0:16:37.375 --> 0:16:39.695 that will fit your existing one. But you know, if, 0:16:39.735 --> 0:16:42.015 for example, it's a seven fifty by nine hundred or 0:16:42.015 --> 0:16:45.895 a nine hundred by nine hundred return shower, then that 0:16:45.935 --> 0:16:49.135 should be readily available. So unscrew the well, find the 0:16:49.175 --> 0:16:52.095 new one first, make sure that it fits, then unscrew 0:16:52.135 --> 0:16:54.935 the old one and replace it, and just pay a 0:16:54.975 --> 0:16:58.695 little bit of attention to making sure that you get 0:16:58.695 --> 0:17:01.615 the ceilant in the right place and that any penetrations 0:17:01.655 --> 0:17:04.775 additional penetrations you might have put in there are also 0:17:04.935 --> 0:17:08.575 well sealed. Go eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the 0:17:08.655 --> 0:17:10.855 number to call. We'll do a couple more texts in 0:17:11.295 --> 0:17:13.215 just a moment, but if you've got a question you'd 0:17:13.255 --> 0:17:15.695 like an answer to, then call us right now. Oh, 0:17:15.695 --> 0:17:18.735 eight hundred eighty ten eighty Karen, A very good morning 0:17:18.735 --> 0:17:19.015 to you. 0:17:19.975 --> 0:17:21.295 Yeah, Hi, how are you, Pete? 0:17:21.375 --> 0:17:22.655 It's pretty good things. 0:17:23.095 --> 0:17:27.855 Yeah. Look, we do regular maintenance on the house every 0:17:27.935 --> 0:17:31.295 year and have the house washed, and I'm so glad 0:17:31.335 --> 0:17:34.415 that I do it. I do it now. I know 0:17:34.775 --> 0:17:38.815 this is probably to do with insects, but you deal 0:17:38.895 --> 0:17:42.655 with damage to wood as well, don't you. So we 0:17:42.775 --> 0:17:47.175 had this moth in the garden and it's laid eggs 0:17:47.655 --> 0:17:49.695 into the wood. Have you heard of that before? 0:17:51.855 --> 0:17:52.655 What type have. 0:17:54.375 --> 0:17:54.495 Oh? 0:17:54.575 --> 0:17:57.055 You know your house, your house would okay. 0:17:56.815 --> 0:18:00.055 So into weatherboards or trims or yeah. 0:18:00.015 --> 0:18:03.735 We've been into the weather board itself. So the guy 0:18:03.775 --> 0:18:06.895 that washed the house, he shows me and he told 0:18:06.895 --> 0:18:10.015 me to pick them off that once they get really 0:18:10.615 --> 0:18:13.735 hard into the wood, you can't pick it up, pick 0:18:13.815 --> 0:18:16.135 it off. And I just wondered if you'd heard about it, 0:18:16.175 --> 0:18:17.895 and how does it really? 0:18:19.175 --> 0:18:21.095 Is it that sort of thing where it almost looks 0:18:21.175 --> 0:18:23.575 like you know when you go to the Rocky Seashore 0:18:23.695 --> 0:18:25.935 and you see the little limpets that are attached and 0:18:25.975 --> 0:18:29.935 they're kind of about well maybe two centimeters long and 0:18:30.295 --> 0:18:32.735 ribbed on the surface. Is it that type of appearance 0:18:32.775 --> 0:18:34.055 where they they. 0:18:34.215 --> 0:18:36.535 Know it's a black spot? 0:18:37.255 --> 0:18:38.735 A black spot? Wow? 0:18:38.975 --> 0:18:42.055 Would they lay the egg into the wood? 0:18:42.935 --> 0:18:46.215 So when you say into the wood, so they drill 0:18:46.415 --> 0:18:49.935 or burrow their way into the timber and then lay 0:18:49.935 --> 0:18:50.615 their eggs there. 0:18:52.095 --> 0:18:55.495 I don't know. He just said that they just to 0:18:55.615 --> 0:18:59.215 get He said it's only just started on a very 0:18:59.535 --> 0:19:01.615 like he got into the plant and told me to 0:19:01.615 --> 0:19:05.655 get rid of the plant. We have done yep, but 0:19:05.815 --> 0:19:08.135 last night is out and I could see all these 0:19:08.175 --> 0:19:10.055 tiny moths. 0:19:10.135 --> 0:19:11.095 You know how interesting? 0:19:12.135 --> 0:19:16.095 Okay, and you said that people have to paint their 0:19:16.135 --> 0:19:18.335 whole houses because of these. 0:19:18.215 --> 0:19:23.935 Moths, right, yeah, look, it's possible. I suppose. What I'm 0:19:24.015 --> 0:19:26.255 kind of intrigued about is that, you know, one of 0:19:26.295 --> 0:19:29.375 the reasons that we treat timber in this country is 0:19:29.455 --> 0:19:35.215 to prevent insects, right, it will prevent infestation from insects, 0:19:35.735 --> 0:19:40.215 so and certainly exterior timbers are treated in the same 0:19:40.255 --> 0:19:44.415 way that it's it's an insecticide. So the thought of 0:19:44.975 --> 0:19:50.055 moths kind of burrowing their way in and then laying 0:19:50.095 --> 0:19:54.175 their eggs there and so on, I wonder whether I mean, look, 0:19:54.255 --> 0:19:56.855 if your house needs a paint at some stage anyway, 0:19:56.855 --> 0:19:59.175 then that'll take care of that problem. And then if 0:19:59.215 --> 0:20:04.655 you I know, rud often talks about the Pyreetherum based 0:20:05.095 --> 0:20:08.975 general insecticide. It's from safe Works, So you do like 0:20:09.055 --> 0:20:11.695 a general application of that to knock back all of 0:20:11.735 --> 0:20:16.695 the insects. And then you deal with the whatever gaps 0:20:16.695 --> 0:20:19.695 and cracks and holes and that have come from the 0:20:19.735 --> 0:20:22.775 moths by just your regular prep. 0:20:25.255 --> 0:20:30.455 Yeah, kind of how the house has been washed. I mean, 0:20:30.495 --> 0:20:31.455 it comes every year. 0:20:31.575 --> 0:20:31.855 Yeah. 0:20:32.095 --> 0:20:33.695 Yeah, it was just. 0:20:33.695 --> 0:20:36.735 So interesting that he told me that people have to 0:20:36.775 --> 0:20:40.295 have their whole houses painted, because I just thought you 0:20:40.375 --> 0:20:41.135 might have heard about it. 0:20:41.175 --> 0:20:43.695 No, it's quite intriguing. So if you stood back, let's say, 0:20:43.695 --> 0:20:46.775 two meters from the surface of the weatherboards, would you 0:20:46.855 --> 0:20:50.295 be able to see where these moths have have left 0:20:50.335 --> 0:20:50.695 their mark? 0:20:52.575 --> 0:20:56.335 No, because it's like a black spot, right, it's like 0:20:56.495 --> 0:21:02.375 a tiny, tiny spot, and you can pack them off 0:21:03.015 --> 0:21:05.815 when they've just been laid. That's what he said to me, right, 0:21:05.855 --> 0:21:08.495 and go out and pack them off. But he said 0:21:08.535 --> 0:21:12.095 the ones that are in that you can't pick coffee, 0:21:12.175 --> 0:21:13.375 that you can't get rid of them. 0:21:15.255 --> 0:21:17.215 But if you were to take a piece of sandpaper, 0:21:17.255 --> 0:21:19.055 for example, and. 0:21:20.575 --> 0:21:22.895 I got a little bit of a knife, you can. 0:21:23.975 --> 0:21:26.495 So you literally get I mean, to be fair, I've 0:21:26.495 --> 0:21:28.535 sanded all sorts of things and there's not a lot 0:21:28.535 --> 0:21:31.735 that resists sandpaper. Ultimately, So if you were to take 0:21:31.735 --> 0:21:34.575 a bit of sandpaper and sand over the surface where 0:21:34.615 --> 0:21:38.215 this this black spot is, would you eventually get back 0:21:38.255 --> 0:21:42.695 to either paint or timber beyond it. That would be 0:21:42.735 --> 0:21:45.015 really interesting to know, because you know, maybe trying to 0:21:45.055 --> 0:21:47.135 scrape it off with a knife or a tungsten or 0:21:47.175 --> 0:21:49.575 something like that might be a bit challenging. But I 0:21:49.615 --> 0:21:51.775 suppose I'm intrigued as to if you were to hit 0:21:51.815 --> 0:21:54.695 it with a bit of sandpaper, would you knock it 0:21:54.775 --> 0:21:58.735 back have a bare surface that is then ready for painting, 0:21:59.255 --> 0:22:02.135 or does it somehow penetrate. 0:22:02.535 --> 0:22:04.575 Well, that's what I want to know, surely. 0:22:04.615 --> 0:22:07.375 I mean that, you know, I admire the industrious nature 0:22:07.415 --> 0:22:10.415 of insects, but you know, burrowing through paint in order 0:22:10.455 --> 0:22:13.175 to lay an egg seems like an awful lot of effort. 0:22:13.255 --> 0:22:15.655 I just wonder whether it's on the surface, and maybe 0:22:15.695 --> 0:22:17.335 it's the sort of thing that doesn't come off with 0:22:17.575 --> 0:22:19.215 a house wash or a water. 0:22:19.015 --> 0:22:22.095 Blast because he couldn't get it off. 0:22:22.215 --> 0:22:25.615 But sending it, I think maybe it is that he 0:22:26.015 --> 0:22:27.855 I think I wonder whether what it is that he's 0:22:27.855 --> 0:22:30.615 saying is, look, I can't clean them off, and the 0:22:30.655 --> 0:22:34.415 only way to deal with it is to then go 0:22:34.655 --> 0:22:37.815 and you know, send them off and repaint and then 0:22:38.055 --> 0:22:43.055 maybe treat the exterior with an insecticide that stops them. 0:22:44.455 --> 0:22:46.535 You know, they'll they'll go somewhere else rather than try 0:22:46.535 --> 0:22:50.775 and make a home at your place. And it's definitely 0:22:50.815 --> 0:22:53.455 not borer. It's not like an actual little hole. 0:22:53.695 --> 0:22:56.815 Well, I've locked it up on my phone. All came 0:22:56.895 --> 0:22:58.095 back to boras. 0:22:58.455 --> 0:23:02.295 Yes, but if it is boring, it'll be a hole, right, 0:23:02.695 --> 0:23:05.455 It'll actually be a hole through the surface. And again, 0:23:05.655 --> 0:23:09.135 in reasonably modern weather boards, you just won't see that 0:23:09.255 --> 0:23:10.695 because they're treated. 0:23:10.535 --> 0:23:14.735 Right twelve years old. 0:23:14.855 --> 0:23:17.575 Oh yeah, No, it's not going to be boring. It's 0:23:17.615 --> 0:23:21.455 not going to be boring. I wonder whether I every 0:23:21.575 --> 0:23:25.655 year and that's great, but you know, again, if this 0:23:25.775 --> 0:23:29.055 is something that's obviously you know, moths have evolved to 0:23:29.175 --> 0:23:32.935 create an environment for the eggs that's that would adhere 0:23:32.975 --> 0:23:36.095 to things, then it will resist water blasting because it 0:23:36.095 --> 0:23:39.335 feels like heavy rain, right, so I kind of get that. 0:23:39.415 --> 0:23:41.655 I just wonder whether you'll need to use maybe even 0:23:41.695 --> 0:23:46.615 an abrasive scouring pad and some household cleaner to knock 0:23:46.655 --> 0:23:49.015 them off with that, but it'll be time consuming. You 0:23:49.095 --> 0:23:51.295 just have to work your way around the house cleaning 0:23:51.295 --> 0:23:52.215 them off individually. 0:23:52.575 --> 0:23:55.135 Failing that, I'm really lucky. 0:23:55.255 --> 0:23:57.415 It's just start, right. 0:23:58.535 --> 0:24:03.175 It's about sustain of them that you can't get all. 0:24:03.375 --> 0:24:07.455 Yeah, but it's just what I was interested in. 0:24:07.735 --> 0:24:08.855 Is a beauty heard of it? 0:24:09.535 --> 0:24:13.015 You haven't I haven't. I'll certainly run it past route 0:24:13.295 --> 0:24:15.335 at eight thirty and. 0:24:15.935 --> 0:24:18.135 Well, I thought i'd bring you just in case I 0:24:18.135 --> 0:24:21.215 couldn't get through to get and you're not busy at 0:24:21.255 --> 0:24:22.055 the moment, I will. 0:24:22.295 --> 0:24:23.975 I will make sure that we talk about it at 0:24:24.015 --> 0:24:28.215 eight thirty as well. I appreciate nice for you to call. 0:24:28.775 --> 0:24:31.855 You have a great day, take care. Then, yeah, I 0:24:31.895 --> 0:24:33.575 do wonder whether you just hit it with a bit 0:24:33.655 --> 0:24:36.295 of sandpaper when you're about to do a repaint and 0:24:36.375 --> 0:24:38.855 then paint over the top and maybe do some treatment 0:24:38.935 --> 0:24:41.335 to the exterior of the house that makes it an 0:24:41.455 --> 0:24:46.255 inhospitable place for for moths. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten 0:24:46.375 --> 0:24:51.615 eighty is the number to call David, text Peter or 0:24:51.775 --> 0:24:55.015 good morning Pete. How long do I need to leave 0:24:55.335 --> 0:24:57.695 new concrete before coating it with a seala? And what 0:24:57.895 --> 0:25:01.735 seala is best? Please David. A couple of extra questions 0:25:01.935 --> 0:25:04.215 is when you say new concrete, is it a pathway, 0:25:04.815 --> 0:25:09.535 is it a garden tay? Is it a driveway? Is 0:25:09.575 --> 0:25:12.375 it a floor slab? Those sorts of things, because they'll 0:25:12.375 --> 0:25:16.015 all have different types of sealers applied. Typically, if you 0:25:16.015 --> 0:25:18.295 want to have a look for sealers, I get the 0:25:18.375 --> 0:25:21.775 stuff that I use from a company called Premiere Group 0:25:22.735 --> 0:25:25.335 and I order it online. I think they're based out 0:25:25.375 --> 0:25:29.295 of Hamilton. They'll have a range of sealers and colors 0:25:29.335 --> 0:25:32.775 as well. I have to say I did some myself 0:25:32.815 --> 0:25:35.335 a couple of years ago, and I'm not happy with it. 0:25:36.415 --> 0:25:39.095 It's one of those jobs where maybe it's more tricky 0:25:39.175 --> 0:25:41.455 than you think. And I was back there looking at 0:25:41.495 --> 0:25:43.455 it the other day and it's one of those little 0:25:43.575 --> 0:25:46.975 niggles that you have where you go shivers. I can 0:25:47.055 --> 0:25:49.215 see a couple of lines in it and it's not 0:25:49.455 --> 0:25:53.455 quite as even the distribution. Maybe I didn't do the 0:25:53.495 --> 0:25:56.975 acid wash correctly. Maybe I applied the sealer when it 0:25:57.095 --> 0:25:59.375 was too hot and it dried off too quickly or 0:25:59.415 --> 0:26:02.535 something like that. So yeah, depending on the area. But 0:26:02.615 --> 0:26:04.535 have a look at the Premier Group website. They've got 0:26:04.615 --> 0:26:07.095 some good information on sealers. You can also have a 0:26:07.135 --> 0:26:11.455 look at new Lock dot co dot nz get new 0:26:11.495 --> 0:26:14.495 Look rather get New Look website. He's got lots of 0:26:14.535 --> 0:26:17.975 information about sealers and colors and so on for concrete 0:26:18.015 --> 0:26:21.015 as well. Right, we can take sure, No, We'll talk 0:26:21.015 --> 0:26:23.295 to Wendy in just a moment. Other quick text, Hey, Pete. 0:26:23.295 --> 0:26:26.175 I've got a hardy plank and tumbled concrete blocks on 0:26:26.255 --> 0:26:28.495 my house twelve years old. Should I brush it with 0:26:28.695 --> 0:26:31.215 just water or use a cleaning product? I think the 0:26:31.295 --> 0:26:34.095 advantage of using a cleaning product is that it's it's 0:26:34.135 --> 0:26:37.455 obviously got an active ingredient that will deal in particular 0:26:38.695 --> 0:26:40.935 with some of the organic material that builds up on 0:26:41.015 --> 0:26:43.295 our houses, so the moss and molds and lichens and 0:26:43.335 --> 0:26:46.015 those sorts of things. It'll save you a lot of 0:26:47.215 --> 0:26:50.135 elbow grease to use a cleaner, and it will also 0:26:50.375 --> 0:26:55.295 treat the surface. So yeah, proprietary house washers are really 0:26:55.375 --> 0:26:57.415 good to use. That's what I would do. Oh eight 0:26:57.535 --> 0:27:00.215 hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call Wendy 0:27:00.375 --> 0:27:01.255 A very good morning. 0:27:02.495 --> 0:27:05.495 Ay, Yes, good morning. I was listening to your caller 0:27:05.655 --> 0:27:10.815 talking about the tiny black spots house and we haven't 0:27:10.895 --> 0:27:15.615 countered a similar problem. And it's actually a fungus and 0:27:16.255 --> 0:27:19.815 it's got several names. It can be called shotgun fungus 0:27:20.415 --> 0:27:23.695 or artillery fungus, and I think New Zealand has a 0:27:23.775 --> 0:27:28.815 variety called birds near fungus. And it's a tiny fungus 0:27:29.135 --> 0:27:34.895 that grows like a very small mushroom and when rain 0:27:34.975 --> 0:27:39.175 drops land on it and it really it inverts itself 0:27:39.295 --> 0:27:43.415 and time to win black sticky balls and they give 0:27:43.495 --> 0:27:47.975 as far as ten or twenty feet. It's not common 0:27:48.055 --> 0:27:52.055 in New Zealand. And it took us several house washes 0:27:52.215 --> 0:27:54.855 before the chap would come in and say, look, I've 0:27:54.935 --> 0:27:58.615 washed your house down. But unfortunately there's these little things 0:27:58.735 --> 0:28:03.495 like spiders marks or something I can't get off. And 0:28:03.695 --> 0:28:05.655 finally when we got to the bottom of it, we 0:28:05.775 --> 0:28:10.615 discovered with this shotgun fungus and it came onto our 0:28:10.735 --> 0:28:15.455 property in the black wooden type chip. 0:28:15.415 --> 0:28:19.175 With black wood that used for malch in the garden. 0:28:20.335 --> 0:28:23.735 Yes, and I heard that that's made out of old 0:28:23.815 --> 0:28:26.495 palettes and a lot of them are important from over 0:28:26.615 --> 0:28:31.215 seas and this fungus has probably come on in old 0:28:31.295 --> 0:28:35.255 palettes which are made from timber that's not treated. And 0:28:35.815 --> 0:28:40.215 she's quite correct that you cannot get it off. And 0:28:40.655 --> 0:28:44.655 when we first discovered it, our daughter parked her lightly 0:28:44.895 --> 0:28:49.535 colored car near our property and she got home and 0:28:49.735 --> 0:28:52.695 rang me and said, Mum, you've got something into a 0:28:52.855 --> 0:28:55.735 house that's put black spots all down one side of 0:28:55.815 --> 0:28:58.935 my car and it's like a sticky car. 0:28:59.455 --> 0:28:59.655 Yeah. 0:29:00.335 --> 0:29:05.135 Well, anyway. With over several years we have finally we 0:29:05.335 --> 0:29:09.255 changed all our black mulch with a natural bark which 0:29:09.335 --> 0:29:14.135 is a bit resistant, more resistant to that hype of fungus. 0:29:14.855 --> 0:29:20.175 If this tree bark is meant to shield things and 0:29:20.295 --> 0:29:25.095 protect them, whereas the wood chip really lets that type 0:29:25.095 --> 0:29:29.895 of infestation and anyway to come along sprey short After 0:29:29.975 --> 0:29:34.295 several years, we discovered that a bleach is the way 0:29:34.375 --> 0:29:39.295 to kill it. And you lifed up about five parts 0:29:39.855 --> 0:29:44.455 water to one part bleach, and you can spray it 0:29:44.735 --> 0:29:49.575 or ben water and can onto the bark and that 0:29:49.775 --> 0:29:52.455 does kill it. But we just had to let this 0:29:52.935 --> 0:29:55.895 little black spot settle for several years until it was 0:29:56.015 --> 0:29:59.975 quite hard, and then our painters have sanded, water blasted, 0:30:00.055 --> 0:30:03.895 sanded and got it off and repainted. But I'm still nervous. 0:30:03.975 --> 0:30:05.095 I checked my wood. 0:30:06.455 --> 0:30:08.855 One ter looking for the first little black spot because 0:30:09.375 --> 0:30:12.735 you can see it in the ark. It's like a 0:30:12.815 --> 0:30:14.335 little booth. 0:30:14.855 --> 0:30:18.215 When you say small, are we talking a couple of millimeters? 0:30:18.255 --> 0:30:19.935 Are we talking five millimeters? 0:30:21.575 --> 0:30:22.815 Are you're talking the size of it? 0:30:23.135 --> 0:30:23.335 Yeah? 0:30:24.375 --> 0:30:25.055 A pinhead? 0:30:25.655 --> 0:30:26.375 Wow? Okay? 0:30:29.135 --> 0:30:32.055 And it sticks, it's up under the eaves out. He's 0:30:32.255 --> 0:30:35.975 almost black with it. After like three seasons and we 0:30:36.135 --> 0:30:39.695 were just distraught, not even knowing what was happening. Irang 0:30:39.895 --> 0:30:43.775 the people that Rude would deal with, and they said, oh, 0:30:43.855 --> 0:30:47.015 we're not interested because New Zealand does have its own variety, 0:30:47.335 --> 0:30:51.135 and right we go. We got absolutely no help. We 0:30:51.335 --> 0:30:55.375 contacted the landscape gardener who did the property like six 0:30:55.495 --> 0:30:58.575 or seven years earlier, and everyone was just at a 0:30:59.015 --> 0:31:02.415 loss and we really had to research it Outselda a. 0:31:02.455 --> 0:31:05.575 Couple of quick questions in around it, because to be fair, 0:31:05.615 --> 0:31:07.735 I've used black mulch at home. Right it's you know, 0:31:07.775 --> 0:31:12.935 it looks a bit more flash or whatever. How close 0:31:13.215 --> 0:31:16.135 to your house is the gardens that have the black mulch. 0:31:17.655 --> 0:31:19.975 The gardens go right up to the house. But this 0:31:20.215 --> 0:31:23.735 right and the and the mulch goes like the mulch 0:31:23.935 --> 0:31:26.655 is like it's a big house. It could be three 0:31:26.815 --> 0:31:29.775 meters of mult going out from the house. But this 0:31:29.895 --> 0:31:34.215 little thing shoot twenty or forty feet when it when 0:31:34.295 --> 0:31:37.935 it If you research it, you can research it under 0:31:37.975 --> 0:31:42.495 shotgun fungus or artillery fungus. And it's called that for 0:31:42.615 --> 0:31:44.815 a name. That name for a reason that. 0:31:44.895 --> 0:31:50.135 It can shoot it twenty or thirty feet And when 0:31:50.175 --> 0:31:54.055 you see it in the bark. It has the initial 0:31:54.175 --> 0:31:57.295 spores are quite yellow, looking like a little. 0:31:57.215 --> 0:32:06.135 Yellow yep spot, and then once it has exploded, it's 0:32:06.335 --> 0:32:09.775 it's very close to the surface of the bark. It's 0:32:09.855 --> 0:32:13.495 not a mushroom that has a stalk. It just sits 0:32:13.655 --> 0:32:16.255 very very close to the surface. One of the best 0:32:16.335 --> 0:32:19.615 ways to get rid of it, they said, you can 0:32:20.295 --> 0:32:22.375 you have to bury the bark about four. 0:32:22.255 --> 0:32:24.575 Inches steep deep, or you can. 0:32:26.535 --> 0:32:29.695 You can get rid of it. Well, the bleach is 0:32:29.775 --> 0:32:31.135 the best thing we have found. 0:32:32.615 --> 0:32:35.655 And the bleach you use on the bark in the garden. 0:32:36.655 --> 0:32:40.015 Yes, just pour it over the bark and it's meant 0:32:40.055 --> 0:32:40.575 to kill. 0:32:40.415 --> 0:32:43.895 The spoards, but surely the plants don't really like having 0:32:43.935 --> 0:32:45.895 the bleach spread around the place as well. 0:32:47.575 --> 0:32:50.335 It doesn't seem to affect anything else. I tested it 0:32:50.495 --> 0:32:53.815 on because there are parts where it's like a mango 0:32:54.015 --> 0:32:56.175 ground cover, and I would like to have poured the 0:32:56.255 --> 0:33:00.455 bleach all over the top, and I have. I found 0:33:00.495 --> 0:33:04.735 that it's quite good with the plants. It hasn't damaged. 0:33:05.815 --> 0:33:09.095 I've been obviously just putting it in between and around 0:33:09.135 --> 0:33:10.135 the plants if we can. 0:33:11.255 --> 0:33:13.775 It's one of those things that you never thought you'd 0:33:13.775 --> 0:33:15.775 become an expert in but obviously you have. 0:33:17.295 --> 0:33:20.215 I really appreciate it right for us for several years, 0:33:20.255 --> 0:33:23.895 and we've just in our house which is white repast it. 0:33:24.335 --> 0:33:25.695 But I still go out. 0:33:27.095 --> 0:33:29.775 After may or in winter time looking for it on 0:33:29.895 --> 0:33:32.215 the glass. You can get it off the glass, yeah, 0:33:32.415 --> 0:33:35.215 with a scrape. And you can get it off the 0:33:35.335 --> 0:33:39.615 metal frame of your window easily too, but very difficult 0:33:39.695 --> 0:33:40.215 to get. 0:33:40.375 --> 0:33:43.655 Off the planted surface the paintwork. How intriguing. 0:33:44.135 --> 0:33:45.495 Thank you to believe it. 0:33:45.655 --> 0:33:48.335 Yeah, I bet well. It'll be on my radar now. 0:33:48.335 --> 0:33:50.775 I'll look out for that. Wendy, Thank you very much. 0:33:50.855 --> 0:33:54.135 That was incredibly informative. I really appreciate that. And yes, 0:33:54.255 --> 0:33:58.095 i'll ask about shotgun or artillery or bird's nest fungus 0:33:58.535 --> 0:34:00.455 when you joined us at about eight thirty this morning. 0:34:00.495 --> 0:34:02.335 We'll take a short break. It is six forty three. 0:34:02.375 --> 0:34:04.295 Here a news stork seed B your new stalks heed 0:34:04.335 --> 0:34:08.295 B earlier on a text about concrete sealers as well, 0:34:08.455 --> 0:34:11.175 and someone has flicked through a quick recommendation for concrete 0:34:11.215 --> 0:34:13.895 sealers dot co dot m Z. That's the Armatech range 0:34:14.415 --> 0:34:16.815 NZ manufactured. I think I've seen them at trade shows 0:34:17.095 --> 0:34:19.455 and that sort of thing over the years. Someone who's 0:34:19.455 --> 0:34:22.335 also text I am busy today, Well, good for you. 0:34:24.095 --> 0:34:28.255 I'm not sure what that's actually about. Maybe it's about 0:34:28.255 --> 0:34:30.615 the fair. I'm going to the fair today. Saint Leo's 0:34:30.735 --> 0:34:33.895 and Devenport are on the shore. Maybe they're saying that 0:34:33.935 --> 0:34:35.975 they're too busy to go. You don't know what you're 0:34:35.975 --> 0:34:37.895 missing out on, I tell you. And the guys that 0:34:38.015 --> 0:34:41.135 do the pul pork tacos ah craky, they put a 0:34:41.135 --> 0:34:43.535 lot of effort into it and their outstanding right. Oh, 0:34:43.575 --> 0:34:46.015 I'm starting to get hungry. It is seven forty six 0:34:46.295 --> 0:34:48.855 forty seven and Pat a very good morning to you. 0:34:49.815 --> 0:34:54.255 Hello Peter, Hello, I have got a problem my conservatory roof. 0:34:54.535 --> 0:34:58.695 Yes place stick panels. Well, this is the third time 0:34:59.215 --> 0:35:03.295 that the Hales put holes in it, and their insurance 0:35:03.335 --> 0:35:06.935 of course won't come to the party, but leaks like 0:35:07.015 --> 0:35:11.455 a sieve at the edges. Amazing eight. And I got 0:35:11.535 --> 0:35:13.775 told off by the day because I was like, you're 0:35:13.855 --> 0:35:14.335 right there. 0:35:16.535 --> 0:35:17.335 Not allowed to do that. 0:35:18.335 --> 0:35:21.695 But anyway, my sun in law's planning is putting these 0:35:21.775 --> 0:35:25.855 solid panels up there, and is it going to make 0:35:25.935 --> 0:35:27.855 it look too dark? Is it going to be too 0:35:27.895 --> 0:35:33.015 heavy forever. But them jewdery or I think. 0:35:32.935 --> 0:35:36.015 If they're going to use effectively. And I say this, 0:35:36.095 --> 0:35:38.695 and it's not a gerograthy term like a freezer panel, right, 0:35:38.775 --> 0:35:42.175 so it's metal on both sides, but I'm talking about Yeah, 0:35:42.255 --> 0:35:45.095 that while is a bit of extra weight, I'm sure 0:35:45.095 --> 0:35:48.255 that your aluminium structure will take the weight of that. 0:35:49.335 --> 0:35:54.055 But yes, if it's completely solid, then you will get 0:35:54.135 --> 0:35:57.095 no light through the conservatory roof anymore. 0:35:57.455 --> 0:36:00.935 But we worry it's almost too hot to get out 0:36:00.975 --> 0:36:01.695 there in the summit. 0:36:02.135 --> 0:36:04.415 That's what I wonder whether now, with the way that 0:36:04.575 --> 0:36:07.815 the weather is and so on, that that increasingly, you know, 0:36:08.055 --> 0:36:11.895 just a clear roof, especially if it's you know, facing north, 0:36:11.975 --> 0:36:14.575 and that you would just unless you do a lot 0:36:14.615 --> 0:36:16.975 of extra treatments to the glass that you might have 0:36:17.135 --> 0:36:19.255 in it. If you did have glass, then it's it's 0:36:19.335 --> 0:36:22.975 going to be sweltering in there. So no, look, I 0:36:23.255 --> 0:36:26.215 think that'd be fine. And then ideally just make sure 0:36:26.255 --> 0:36:29.735 that the panels overhang by a decent amount one hundred. 0:36:29.615 --> 0:36:32.615 Hundred and fifty mil on either end and put a 0:36:32.735 --> 0:36:33.535 heavier spout. 0:36:33.975 --> 0:36:36.015 He said, yeah, that would that would work as well. 0:36:36.215 --> 0:36:38.775 Spoutings typically cope with, you know, the load from a 0:36:38.855 --> 0:36:41.855 small roof, but just to give a bit of an 0:36:41.935 --> 0:36:45.815 eve effectively will give you protection around that junction, and 0:36:45.895 --> 0:36:47.935 then if it's well sealed, you'll be fine. 0:36:48.895 --> 0:36:52.055 I wouldn't recommend that plastic stuff to anybody because the 0:36:52.175 --> 0:36:54.495 holes are in the top layer and then the water 0:36:54.615 --> 0:36:57.415 gets and the net doll goes black and green and 0:36:57.975 --> 0:36:58.855 oh it's awful. 0:36:59.215 --> 0:36:59.415 Yeah. 0:36:59.455 --> 0:37:01.695 I mean, look, I've got some clear light roofing on 0:37:01.935 --> 0:37:04.175 my in my workshop, right, So I've got sort of 0:37:04.455 --> 0:37:07.855 steel and then clear pan and look they I replaced 0:37:07.895 --> 0:37:10.495 them was beginning of last year, but the old ones 0:37:10.535 --> 0:37:12.975 had been there twenty or thirty years. So I tell 0:37:12.975 --> 0:37:16.295 you what I've did foolishly is I went and got 0:37:16.375 --> 0:37:20.735 some clear sheeting, right, and I went, gosh, this is great. 0:37:20.815 --> 0:37:23.015 This is a tremendous amount of light. But then it 0:37:23.135 --> 0:37:27.135 was also swelteringly hot in the workshop over summer, so 0:37:27.175 --> 0:37:29.255 I ended up having to take those sheets off again 0:37:29.335 --> 0:37:32.775 and replace them with some that had more UV protection in, 0:37:32.975 --> 0:37:34.335 which made a big difference. 0:37:34.375 --> 0:37:36.575 But that was my day out there. 0:37:37.095 --> 0:37:39.135 Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's warm enough. 0:37:39.695 --> 0:37:42.775 Thank you so much for it, my mind, it thank 0:37:43.575 --> 0:37:44.855 all the best to you, Thank. 0:37:44.695 --> 0:37:47.415 You, thank you, take care all the best and good 0:37:47.455 --> 0:37:50.535 on you. Eighty eight up on the roof. That's awesome. 0:37:50.735 --> 0:37:53.175 I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 0:37:53.215 --> 0:37:54.455 to call Dana. Good morning to you. 0:37:55.695 --> 0:37:57.975 I was wanted if you can give me advice. I 0:37:58.695 --> 0:38:01.455 was going to go go do my house up and 0:38:01.775 --> 0:38:05.015 I should have don't know what start, And I was wondering, 0:38:05.055 --> 0:38:07.015 how long does the electric work firing about? 0:38:08.855 --> 0:38:10.415 Well, how old is the house? 0:38:10.535 --> 0:38:13.815 Roughly, Well, it's built in the early nineteen. 0:38:13.575 --> 0:38:19.175 Seventies, okay, so it'll be what we'd call generally modern wiring, right, 0:38:19.255 --> 0:38:24.895 So it's TPS, it has a coating around it. And 0:38:25.015 --> 0:38:27.415 given that it's you know, most of it's concealed, right, 0:38:27.495 --> 0:38:29.735 so it's not exposed to UV because it's in the 0:38:29.815 --> 0:38:34.055 walls or it's in the roof space. Realistically, I can't 0:38:34.095 --> 0:38:36.295 imagine that you would need to be concerned about it 0:38:36.735 --> 0:38:39.615 for many, many many years. In fact, I wouldn't be 0:38:39.695 --> 0:38:42.335 concerned about wiring that's forty years old in a house 0:38:42.375 --> 0:38:45.015 at all. Get it by all means, get it tested, 0:38:45.135 --> 0:38:48.295 and if there is a fault, an electrical inspector will 0:38:48.295 --> 0:38:51.095 be able to identify that. But I don't think you've 0:38:51.135 --> 0:38:52.655 really got too many concerns. 0:38:54.015 --> 0:38:54.055 Me. 0:38:54.215 --> 0:38:56.655 One thing is I had an electrician come in once 0:38:56.735 --> 0:39:00.615 and he was looking as a light fitting and he 0:39:00.735 --> 0:39:05.135 said that there was no worse. And I don't know 0:39:05.215 --> 0:39:07.455 whether that's where the shore should. 0:39:08.095 --> 0:39:11.255 Yeah, absolutely, whether that's a question that there was no 0:39:11.455 --> 0:39:15.455 earth in the fitting, but your house should be earthed. 0:39:15.535 --> 0:39:19.255 So outside your house should be a peg rod that 0:39:19.375 --> 0:39:21.935 goes into the ground and then typically it's a green 0:39:22.055 --> 0:39:24.615 cable that you see running out to it. That's really 0:39:24.735 --> 0:39:27.895 really important that it's there. And if it's not there, 0:39:28.175 --> 0:39:30.135 or if it's a not good condition, and that's what 0:39:30.255 --> 0:39:32.375 happens to them over time they get but knocked or 0:39:32.415 --> 0:39:35.775 the connection gets loose or the wire phrase, you need 0:39:35.855 --> 0:39:37.935 to have that looked at. So yes, having your house 0:39:38.055 --> 0:39:39.575 earthed is really important. 0:39:40.735 --> 0:39:43.215 Okay, Well, it's just there's no green in anything that 0:39:43.295 --> 0:39:45.975 I can see. But I could go to the electrician 0:39:46.055 --> 0:39:47.575 to come in and look. But I just sort of 0:39:50.815 --> 0:39:52.775 you looked at one of the lights, which you said 0:39:52.815 --> 0:39:55.015 that it was on earth. And that's what's. 0:39:54.895 --> 0:39:58.175 Bothering me, is I mean, again, I'm not going to. 0:39:58.535 --> 0:40:02.135 Individual could an individual light vitally not the earth, but 0:40:02.255 --> 0:40:03.535 the rest of the place could be. 0:40:03.815 --> 0:40:07.895 Yes, it is possible. And I'm thinking about some fittings 0:40:07.935 --> 0:40:11.055 that I've seen, you know, as the guys have taken 0:40:11.095 --> 0:40:12.855 them apart in that sort of thing. And sometimes there 0:40:12.895 --> 0:40:15.455 won't be an earth to a light fitting. But your 0:40:15.535 --> 0:40:17.735 house should absolutely be earthed. 0:40:18.695 --> 0:40:21.015 Oh I see, it might just be the light things. 0:40:21.215 --> 0:40:25.495 Yeah, I think you euldn't. 0:40:26.615 --> 0:40:29.415 This circuit will be, but not necessarily the fitting. 0:40:31.095 --> 0:40:31.455 Very much. 0:40:31.495 --> 0:40:33.655 Okay, all right, you look after yourself, done, take care. 0:40:33.895 --> 0:40:36.055 Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, will take your calls. 0:40:36.055 --> 0:40:37.575 Will take a short break as well. It is six 0:40:37.695 --> 0:40:41.215 fifty three. I've just had a Eureka moment. For those 0:40:41.255 --> 0:40:43.575 of you who didn't do classics, Eureka was the moment 0:40:43.655 --> 0:40:47.415 where Archimedes was in the bath. I wasn't in the bath. 0:40:47.455 --> 0:40:49.415 I didn't even have a bath during the news break 0:40:49.495 --> 0:40:50.695 or anything like that. But I did have a bit 0:40:50.695 --> 0:40:53.175 of wander around, stretch my legs, and I was thinking 0:40:53.215 --> 0:40:55.255 about something that arrived at my place this week, which 0:40:55.375 --> 0:40:59.295 was a portable dust extractor. So it's a little Rhyobi 0:40:59.415 --> 0:41:02.015 eighteen vault extractor. It's about the size of a large 0:41:02.095 --> 0:41:05.335 lunch box basically with a hose attachment on it. It's 0:41:05.375 --> 0:41:07.695 wet and dry, and you can use it obviously as 0:41:07.695 --> 0:41:10.695 a vacuum, or more importantly for me, I can use 0:41:10.735 --> 0:41:14.095 it as a dust extractor. So it's something that I'm 0:41:15.855 --> 0:41:19.695 fastidious without being obsessive about. And then I got thinking 0:41:19.695 --> 0:41:22.175 about the fact that I had this and I unboxed 0:41:22.215 --> 0:41:24.215 it during the week, and then I'm wandering around the 0:41:24.335 --> 0:41:28.175 house yesterday looking like a crazy person carrying this little 0:41:28.255 --> 0:41:34.095 Robie project vacuum, just randomly vacuuming things, you know, lifted 0:41:34.135 --> 0:41:38.095 the rug, vacuumed underneath the rug, down behind the back 0:41:38.135 --> 0:41:40.415 of the TV, vacuumed the dust from the back of 0:41:40.455 --> 0:41:42.015 the TV, this sort of thing. And then I wandered 0:41:42.015 --> 0:41:45.855 around workshop doing exactly the same thing. And then I 0:41:46.015 --> 0:41:48.375 was thinking earlier on about the fact that now I've 0:41:48.375 --> 0:41:50.535 got this portable vacuum, which is good, but that now 0:41:50.655 --> 0:41:54.175 gets me to four dust extraction systems in my workshop. 0:41:54.295 --> 0:41:57.215 So underneath the workbench, I've got you know, the classic 0:41:57.335 --> 0:41:59.855 sort of bag attached to a big fan. I plug 0:41:59.935 --> 0:42:02.735 that into the table saw when I'm using that, which 0:42:02.815 --> 0:42:05.895 is great. Then I've got another vacuum cleaner, which is 0:42:05.935 --> 0:42:09.615 there on a heavy duty one for general vacuuming. Then 0:42:09.615 --> 0:42:12.255 I've got a small one that's permanently attached to the 0:42:12.335 --> 0:42:15.215 drop saw at the drop saw station. And then I'm thinking, 0:42:15.375 --> 0:42:18.015 is four types of dust extraction in a small workshop 0:42:18.215 --> 0:42:20.895 just a little bit excessive? Could I reduce that? Then 0:42:20.895 --> 0:42:22.615 I got to the point where I remember I picked 0:42:22.695 --> 0:42:25.575 up an additional hose for one of those vacuums, which 0:42:25.655 --> 0:42:28.175 instead of having two vacuums side by side, I could 0:42:28.255 --> 0:42:31.335 just attach one hose permanently to the drop saw and 0:42:31.615 --> 0:42:33.975 just do the connection at the vacuum. That will free 0:42:34.055 --> 0:42:38.815 up some more space. Anyway, that was my Eureka moment. Yeah, 0:42:39.175 --> 0:42:42.295 these things occupy my mind as I'm wandering through the building. 0:42:42.335 --> 0:42:45.455 Here we're talking all things building construction this morning, and 0:42:45.855 --> 0:42:47.735 dust extraction if you want to talk about that as well, 0:42:48.015 --> 0:42:51.095 and a fascinating discussion in the first hour about these 0:42:51.215 --> 0:42:56.295 little black spots that can appear on painted surfaces, exterior 0:42:56.375 --> 0:43:01.215 painted surfaces, particularly weatherboards, and whether they are in one case, 0:43:01.335 --> 0:43:03.775 like a moth that lays an egg which is almost 0:43:03.815 --> 0:43:06.775 impossible to get off the husk of that. And then 0:43:06.855 --> 0:43:10.775 these other things called either shotgun fungus, bird's nest fungus 0:43:10.895 --> 0:43:13.655 or artillery fungus. So we've got a lot to talk 0:43:13.655 --> 0:43:16.255 about with rud when he joins me at around eight 0:43:16.415 --> 0:43:19.015 thirty this morning. This morning on the program, we've got 0:43:19.055 --> 0:43:22.175 our painting expert Jay from Razine. He'll be joining us 0:43:22.175 --> 0:43:25.055 at around seven thirty. If you've got a specific painting question, 0:43:26.335 --> 0:43:27.975 we can have a crack at that with Jay at 0:43:27.975 --> 0:43:31.615 around seven thirty. But right now it's your opportunity to 0:43:31.695 --> 0:43:34.695 talk all things building in construction. Eight hundred and eighty 0:43:34.855 --> 0:43:37.495 ten eighty is the number to call. Mark a very 0:43:37.535 --> 0:43:39.135 good morning, Good. 0:43:38.975 --> 0:43:42.855 Morning, Peter, thank you very much for the call. I'm 0:43:43.375 --> 0:43:49.935 curious about the definition between a garage and a carboard. Yes, 0:43:50.415 --> 0:43:56.895 for legality wise, obviously councils have in different areas have 0:43:57.295 --> 0:44:00.495 different bi laws. But I'm curious if these are set size. 0:44:01.535 --> 0:44:06.495 If it isn't covered in with walls, then ideally you 0:44:06.575 --> 0:44:08.055 could class it as a carport. 0:44:09.015 --> 0:44:11.815 And that's as I understand it, essentially what it is. 0:44:11.935 --> 0:44:14.615 So garage we would expect, you know, three walls and 0:44:14.655 --> 0:44:18.535 the big door, and car ports are allowed to have 0:44:18.855 --> 0:44:22.175 i think say two sides and closed or you know, 0:44:22.295 --> 0:44:28.215 partly enclosed or sheltered. But the basically they're open, right, 0:44:28.655 --> 0:44:32.535 and so car ports in Underschedule one of the Building Act, 0:44:32.895 --> 0:44:35.695 which talks about work that might not require a building consent. 0:44:36.055 --> 0:44:38.415 Typically you can build up to I think it's forty 0:44:38.535 --> 0:44:42.655 square meter car port without necessarily requiring a building consent, 0:44:43.375 --> 0:44:45.935 depending on where it's located on the property. 0:44:47.055 --> 0:44:50.855 So if it was located sort of straight off the 0:44:51.135 --> 0:44:57.775 drive as you in close proximity to the footpath and 0:44:58.735 --> 0:45:02.335 classic there's a car port, would that get around a 0:45:02.415 --> 0:45:04.495 building not having to have a building perm. 0:45:05.495 --> 0:45:09.535 Maybe not, because often because what you're describing as you 0:45:09.655 --> 0:45:12.695 sort of come in off the roadway, over the curb, 0:45:12.775 --> 0:45:15.055 over the footpath onto your property and that's where you 0:45:15.095 --> 0:45:21.175 would put it. So some planning regulations exclude buildings in 0:45:21.215 --> 0:45:24.175 the front yard. There's often a front yard setback, so 0:45:24.255 --> 0:45:26.375 you might have to be three meters five meters six 0:45:26.495 --> 0:45:29.335 meters back from the entry of your property before you're 0:45:29.375 --> 0:45:34.575 allowed to put a structure on. So I was talking 0:45:34.575 --> 0:45:36.255 about this the other day and a little piece of 0:45:36.815 --> 0:45:41.615 video content that we were making talking about you know, 0:45:41.735 --> 0:45:44.655 we've got this real focus on going. Okay, the Building 0:45:44.735 --> 0:45:47.655 Act determines what we can build, but in fact, all 0:45:47.775 --> 0:45:51.535 sorts of other pieces of legislation also determine what we 0:45:51.615 --> 0:45:53.535 can build, how we can build, and where we can 0:45:53.575 --> 0:45:57.175 build those items. So planning, for example, is one of them. 0:45:57.495 --> 0:46:00.575 In the same way that some councils have requirements and 0:46:00.655 --> 0:46:03.975 regulations around the height of a fence. Front fences is 0:46:04.055 --> 0:46:06.895 limited to a certain height in some parts of the country. 0:46:07.375 --> 0:46:11.095 So yes, yes, yes, I'm a little aware on the 0:46:11.175 --> 0:46:13.775 height of the fence. I think in some areas it's 0:46:14.135 --> 0:46:16.735 two meters, it's eighteen hundred, and then I'm not sure 0:46:16.735 --> 0:46:17.495 about the fronts. 0:46:17.935 --> 0:46:22.655 The front some areas, particularly heritage areas, where you're limited 0:46:22.695 --> 0:46:24.855 to one point two meters height on a front fence. 0:46:24.895 --> 0:46:27.375 But that's not what I know you were asking about. 0:46:27.455 --> 0:46:32.575 So I think you would need to do a specific 0:46:32.695 --> 0:46:38.015 search for the planning regulations of your territorial authority around 0:46:38.095 --> 0:46:41.815 where you can locate certain types of buildings, typically in 0:46:41.895 --> 0:46:46.415 a front yard would trigger a requirement for a building 0:46:46.455 --> 0:46:47.175 concent I'd. 0:46:47.015 --> 0:46:51.175 Say, so a height restriction on a cap or you know, 0:46:51.295 --> 0:46:52.055 if there is one. 0:46:53.335 --> 0:46:57.055 Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably similar to a 0:46:57.175 --> 0:47:00.575 minor dwelling, so overall it can't exceed I think off 0:47:00.615 --> 0:47:03.055 the top of my head it's somewhere around three and 0:47:03.095 --> 0:47:07.455 a half meters, you know, which would allow you know, 0:47:07.615 --> 0:47:10.775 that's a reasonably high building. The other thing is proximity 0:47:10.855 --> 0:47:14.855 to boundary. So for a lot of buildings that don't 0:47:14.895 --> 0:47:17.935 require a building consent, the rule that allows you to 0:47:18.015 --> 0:47:20.495 do that is that you must be the height of 0:47:20.575 --> 0:47:23.415 the building away from the boundary. And there's a certain 0:47:23.495 --> 0:47:27.295 logic to that. If it fell over right then and 0:47:27.415 --> 0:47:29.415 you've got a three meter high wall and it's three 0:47:29.495 --> 0:47:31.415 meters from the boundary and it falls over, it's not 0:47:31.535 --> 0:47:34.695 going to impact on your neighbor. So you know, if 0:47:34.735 --> 0:47:37.215 you're doing a three meter high wall that's a meter 0:47:37.335 --> 0:47:39.535 from the boundary and it fell over and it headed 0:47:39.575 --> 0:47:44.855 that way, then obviously that's going to impact on the neighbor. 0:47:45.135 --> 0:47:47.295 In that case, you might need a building consent for 0:47:47.415 --> 0:47:50.575 a building like that. Typically, if you're building closer than 0:47:50.615 --> 0:47:54.535 a meter from the boundary, there's also a requirement for 0:47:54.695 --> 0:47:57.855 fire rating and that certainly does need a building consent. 0:47:58.735 --> 0:48:02.295 So just hypothetically, I won't hold this up any longer, 0:48:02.415 --> 0:48:08.895 but if you poured a concrete slab, as I say, 0:48:09.055 --> 0:48:13.415 just inside the boundary to park two cars, would you 0:48:13.535 --> 0:48:17.615 be able to then claim or could it be possible 0:48:18.015 --> 0:48:22.055 that on the boundary you could put in four poles 0:48:22.775 --> 0:48:30.575 and then put a shade cloth. So yeah, I look 0:48:31.335 --> 0:48:32.295 pushing me on the lope. 0:48:32.735 --> 0:48:36.695 No, Essentially you're looking for cover, right, for a vehicle 0:48:36.775 --> 0:48:39.495 or something like that. Yeah, I would imagine that no, 0:48:39.615 --> 0:48:42.495 one's probably going to object too much with the shade cloth. 0:48:43.455 --> 0:48:47.095 And theoretically if you're then attaching it maybe to the 0:48:47.175 --> 0:48:48.935 house for anchoring and that sort of thing, it's going 0:48:49.015 --> 0:48:51.575 to stop it heading towards the neighbors. So yeah. And 0:48:52.055 --> 0:48:55.095 also shade cloths would typically be seen as temporary rather 0:48:55.215 --> 0:48:55.775 than permanent. 0:48:56.895 --> 0:48:58.335 Thank you very much, So no trouble. 0:48:58.775 --> 0:49:01.895 I'll tell you what if you wanting to use like 0:49:02.055 --> 0:49:04.615 a yes no checkbox type approach to this, which is 0:49:04.695 --> 0:49:07.575 quite good. It may not off everything, But what you 0:49:07.655 --> 0:49:10.095 do is you go to canibuild it, dot gov, dot 0:49:10.215 --> 0:49:14.495 enz Oh really yeah, and then you just work your 0:49:14.495 --> 0:49:17.815 way through can I build it, and it will say 0:49:17.975 --> 0:49:19.615 what do you want to build? Where do you want 0:49:19.655 --> 0:49:21.615 to build it? And it will give you sort of 0:49:21.655 --> 0:49:26.015 a series of yes no responses and indicate whether or 0:49:26.055 --> 0:49:28.655 not you might need a consent or what other pieces 0:49:28.655 --> 0:49:31.495 of legislation might impact on it. So it's a very 0:49:31.535 --> 0:49:36.735 good website, really helpful, all the best, Yes, Stephen, Oh 0:49:36.735 --> 0:49:40.055 he's gone, he's gone, He's off, right ya try that anyway? 0:49:40.575 --> 0:49:43.295 Can I build it? Dot gov dot NZ is very 0:49:43.415 --> 0:49:45.975 very useful. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:49:46.015 --> 0:49:47.655 the number to call if you've got a question of 0:49:47.735 --> 0:49:50.575 a building nature. We can we can discuss all of 0:49:50.655 --> 0:49:53.175 these things. What's the point of a car port? Please? Well, 0:49:53.335 --> 0:49:56.215 essentially at shelter, isn't it for your vehicle? Simple as that? 0:49:57.175 --> 0:50:00.015 And you know, typically if what you're concerned about is 0:50:00.095 --> 0:50:01.735 keeping the rain a bit a son off, and you're 0:50:01.775 --> 0:50:04.255 not worried about storing lots of other things in there, 0:50:04.615 --> 0:50:09.015 then a carport will provide that. Arguably not as good 0:50:09.055 --> 0:50:13.375 at protecting vehicles as having a garage, but garage, you know, 0:50:13.535 --> 0:50:16.375 might be too expensive, so car port often a more 0:50:17.095 --> 0:50:20.055 cost effective solution. Oh, eight hundred eighteen eighty the number 0:50:20.095 --> 0:50:22.815 to call. Hey, Stephen, good morning, Oh. 0:50:22.855 --> 0:50:26.535 Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. Peter. It's 0:50:27.335 --> 0:50:30.175 it's a new build, yep. And it's a long run 0:50:30.335 --> 0:50:35.855 roof and we've got I've got two little points. Depending 0:50:35.895 --> 0:50:40.135 on the the direction of the wind, there's a fluttering noise, 0:50:40.455 --> 0:50:43.535 which I can only presume is the building paper. Yep, 0:50:44.535 --> 0:50:50.135 and it's it's quite loud. And have access to the loft. 0:50:50.735 --> 0:50:55.935 When I'm in the loft of the little ladders, I 0:50:56.015 --> 0:51:01.655 can see a light all all around that area. And 0:51:01.735 --> 0:51:06.135 I'm just wondering whether whether the two are actually going 0:51:06.175 --> 0:51:06.935 to acted. 0:51:08.655 --> 0:51:12.495 What the roofing underlay that's there. Is it black or 0:51:12.615 --> 0:51:15.855 is it colored eye white or blue or something like that. 0:51:17.775 --> 0:51:20.695 The roofing under I can't actually see it because there's 0:51:20.735 --> 0:51:26.735 so much insulation. I've just viewed. I've just viewed it 0:51:26.815 --> 0:51:28.735 from actually from the top of the from the top 0:51:28.775 --> 0:51:34.455 of the ladders into the loft. The sound is quite 0:51:35.095 --> 0:51:38.735 is quite. It sounds like a bird that stuffy yeah. 0:51:38.575 --> 0:51:39.535 And fluttering away. 0:51:39.815 --> 0:51:40.015 Yeah. 0:51:41.215 --> 0:51:43.295 Yes, I have to say it's it is a little 0:51:43.335 --> 0:51:47.455 bit unusual. But if the building or the in this case, 0:51:47.495 --> 0:51:50.895 the roofing underlay has been laid and they haven't put 0:51:50.975 --> 0:51:55.855 sufficient fixings in it, or they've inadvertently torn it somewhere 0:51:55.975 --> 0:51:58.735 and then kind of ignored that and roofed over it, 0:51:59.375 --> 0:52:03.695 then yeah, and and depending on the direction where the 0:52:03.735 --> 0:52:06.935 wind is coming from, if wind is getting in underneath 0:52:06.975 --> 0:52:11.815 that sheet, then potentially it's fluttering and and that would 0:52:11.895 --> 0:52:12.695 be frustrating. 0:52:13.975 --> 0:52:17.215 I've had it on all around, all around the actual building, 0:52:17.295 --> 0:52:20.415 depending on the wind, and then on the. 0:52:20.775 --> 0:52:21.015 On the. 0:52:22.895 --> 0:52:28.215 Side of the side of the house tasting east, it 0:52:28.375 --> 0:52:33.375 tends to be in that area from a yeah, and 0:52:35.175 --> 0:52:39.895 likewise the other side of the house, a different wind 0:52:39.975 --> 0:52:43.775 direction creates the same sort of effect. 0:52:44.855 --> 0:52:49.135 And you say it's a new build, yes, okay, so 0:52:51.775 --> 0:52:54.375 there may well be guaranteed attached, or even if there 0:52:54.495 --> 0:52:58.175 isn't a guarantee, you still have protections under the both 0:52:58.215 --> 0:53:00.935 the Building Act and the Consumer Guarantees. So have you 0:53:01.055 --> 0:53:04.295 made an approach to the main contractor to go, hey, look, 0:53:04.575 --> 0:53:05.975 I want you to come back and address this. 0:53:07.775 --> 0:53:08.015 I have. 0:53:08.575 --> 0:53:10.735 We've only been in the house for four weeks. 0:53:10.495 --> 0:53:13.655 Now, okay, so early days it is. 0:53:14.255 --> 0:53:19.535 Yes, I'm just wondering what what your opinion would be that, well, 0:53:21.135 --> 0:53:22.895 you know, do they have to but they have to 0:53:22.935 --> 0:53:25.135 put some more flashing in there or. 0:53:27.175 --> 0:53:30.975 Look, it could be any number of things. So for example, 0:53:31.175 --> 0:53:34.775 if at the top of the run of the is 0:53:34.815 --> 0:53:37.735 it a corrugate or is it a different trapezoidal shape 0:53:37.975 --> 0:53:40.415 roofing that you've got, it's. 0:53:40.455 --> 0:53:44.255 It's the like amn decking it used to be called 0:53:44.295 --> 0:53:48.775 in the old days along run color steel. 0:53:49.375 --> 0:53:52.175 Okay ye. So typically you know, for example, at the 0:53:52.215 --> 0:53:55.775 top of the sheet, before you fix the flashing over it, 0:53:55.855 --> 0:53:58.295 you turn up the trough right now, if for some 0:53:58.495 --> 0:54:01.455 reason they didn't do that and air is shooting up there, 0:54:01.615 --> 0:54:04.095 that'll that'll course me if at the bottom of the 0:54:04.175 --> 0:54:07.575 sheet the facial boarders set too low and you might 0:54:07.655 --> 0:54:10.615 have an excessive gap there, depending on the pitch of 0:54:10.695 --> 0:54:13.295 the roof. In some case you need a little underflashing. 0:54:14.215 --> 0:54:16.575 It might be if it's in a high wind zone 0:54:16.655 --> 0:54:18.615 and they haven't done a great job of the underlay, 0:54:18.735 --> 0:54:23.775 then possibly they need to install a foam filler in there, 0:54:23.895 --> 0:54:26.615 So back the sheets off, install a foam filler to 0:54:26.775 --> 0:54:29.695 stop air getting in there. But I think if someone 0:54:30.015 --> 0:54:32.335 is able to get access to the roof space and 0:54:32.455 --> 0:54:35.215 have a look, if you know, you'll always see a 0:54:35.215 --> 0:54:37.335 little bit of light shining through on a roof, but 0:54:37.415 --> 0:54:40.775 it shouldn't be extensive. And maybe if someone was to 0:54:40.855 --> 0:54:43.015 go in there during you know, on a windy day 0:54:43.255 --> 0:54:45.855 and be able to identify where the sound's coming from. 0:54:46.095 --> 0:54:48.815 If it's something like a tear in the roofing, underlay 0:54:48.855 --> 0:54:52.135 that they haven't bothered to fix. Then that's poor workmanship 0:54:52.335 --> 0:54:55.495 and someone should come pull off those sheets, redo the 0:54:55.615 --> 0:54:57.135 roofing underlay and replace it. 0:54:58.815 --> 0:55:01.895 Okay, Yeah, that sounds quite a big it does. 0:55:02.055 --> 0:55:04.575 The only good thing is it's not your problem. It's 0:55:04.615 --> 0:55:05.575 the contractor's problem. 0:55:05.695 --> 0:55:05.815 Right. 0:55:05.935 --> 0:55:10.095 So typically, you know, thousands of roofs are installed every year, 0:55:11.055 --> 0:55:14.655 and it's unusual to have that fluttering sound saying that 0:55:14.855 --> 0:55:17.255 I've I've had it on another building where we used 0:55:17.295 --> 0:55:20.935 metal cladding on a as wall cladding, and it just 0:55:21.015 --> 0:55:22.975 so happened that the way in which the winds sort 0:55:22.975 --> 0:55:25.095 of came across the property hit a lower roof and 0:55:25.335 --> 0:55:27.815 was directed up and there was a slight drumming in that. 0:55:28.015 --> 0:55:31.295 Now that's it was intermittent and there were some things 0:55:31.335 --> 0:55:34.935 we could do to mitigate it. But yeah, I think 0:55:34.975 --> 0:55:37.335 at this early stage it's not something that you should 0:55:37.415 --> 0:55:41.255 be that that should disturb you. I should be. 0:55:41.295 --> 0:55:43.175 Fixed, okay. 0:55:44.735 --> 0:55:47.895 And these things are never easy, you know, the discussions 0:55:47.935 --> 0:55:50.975 are never easy, and sometimes the response is you know, 0:55:51.495 --> 0:55:53.215 you're being a bit pedantic and all the rest of it. 0:55:53.295 --> 0:55:55.415 But I think you've got a genuine concern, and so 0:55:55.935 --> 0:55:58.695 i'd recommend stick to your guns and get it sorted 0:55:58.735 --> 0:56:04.135 out the very best. Take care, Stephen. We'll take a 0:56:04.175 --> 0:56:07.335 short break back in a moment, right as promised and 0:56:07.815 --> 0:56:10.655 almost bang on time. And that's that's me being tardy. 0:56:11.295 --> 0:56:14.255 Jay Sharples from Razine A very good morning to you. 0:56:14.375 --> 0:56:16.855 Jay, Good morning mate, how are you good? 0:56:16.975 --> 0:56:18.775 Good and nice to catch up with you on Thursday 0:56:18.815 --> 0:56:21.575 and Bryce. That was a rarity, all three of us together. 0:56:21.775 --> 0:56:22.295 It was great. 0:56:24.815 --> 0:56:27.535 It was a great event. And as you know well 0:56:27.735 --> 0:56:29.775 in the background because you could hear them working away, 0:56:30.015 --> 0:56:33.775 was the young or the nine Young Apprentices of the Year. 0:56:35.095 --> 0:56:39.015 So they did that practical during construct where you guys were, 0:56:39.855 --> 0:56:43.455 and then on the Friday night had the gala dinner, 0:56:43.615 --> 0:56:47.695 let's say, and one of those young apprentices, young man 0:56:47.775 --> 0:56:51.215 by the name of Hunter Moon, was appointed as the 0:56:52.735 --> 0:56:57.375 Young Apprentice of the Year. So outstanding, it's great, No, excellent, Yeah, 0:56:57.415 --> 0:56:59.815 it's good. And I think you know what I quite 0:56:59.935 --> 0:57:02.455 liked about it was the whole thing that you know, 0:57:02.575 --> 0:57:06.375 we do recognize excellence and that we do introduce some 0:57:06.495 --> 0:57:09.215 competition into being an apprentice. And you know, for that 0:57:09.615 --> 0:57:13.535 young person, and there there were nine there, eight males, 0:57:13.615 --> 0:57:16.095 one female. You know, they all get to say from 0:57:16.175 --> 0:57:18.415 here on, look, I made it through to the finals, 0:57:18.455 --> 0:57:20.855 and in some cases for him anyway, Hey, look I 0:57:20.975 --> 0:57:23.335 was Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty four, so it's. 0:57:23.255 --> 0:57:24.855 Great, that's excellent. 0:57:25.255 --> 0:57:28.495 Yeah, absolutely right, Oak. Now, we had a curious, curious 0:57:28.615 --> 0:57:32.855 question this morning around you know, like organic growth on 0:57:33.255 --> 0:57:38.255 exterior painted surfaces, particularly weatherboards, and people were calling through 0:57:38.335 --> 0:57:41.375 with it a couple of things. One was like insects, 0:57:41.455 --> 0:57:45.055 so moths in particular that tend to leave a casing 0:57:45.175 --> 0:57:49.015 seemingly that's incredibly hard to remove. And then suddenly we 0:57:49.135 --> 0:57:53.415 got talking about various funguses that are not particularly common 0:57:53.495 --> 0:57:57.295 but can adhere to exterior surfaces. So if you're about 0:57:57.415 --> 0:58:00.615 to do and we're heading into summer some exterior painting, 0:58:01.055 --> 0:58:04.935 where do we start, And as. 0:58:04.815 --> 0:58:09.735 Always we say treat with raze, moss and molecular It's 0:58:10.695 --> 0:58:13.415 it might take more than one sort of treatment to 0:58:13.535 --> 0:58:16.455 remove stuff. I mean, there's plenty of lichens and stuff 0:58:16.535 --> 0:58:20.455 that are very hard to remove, so it's really trying 0:58:20.455 --> 0:58:23.015 to kill it and remove it before you start painting. 0:58:23.575 --> 0:58:25.735 There really is no point sort of painting over the 0:58:25.815 --> 0:58:27.975 top of it. So the paint's only going to adhere 0:58:28.055 --> 0:58:31.735 to that. The lichen that's kind of going to be 0:58:31.855 --> 0:58:35.495 crumbly away on the surface or die and it's your 0:58:35.535 --> 0:58:38.615 paint will just break down in those areas, So it's 0:58:38.735 --> 0:58:43.495 really important to clean outside inside with razim moss and 0:58:43.575 --> 0:58:46.735 molecular The other big one is fly marks on the ceiling. 0:58:46.935 --> 0:58:49.495 Don't just think I'm going to cover it. Give it 0:58:49.575 --> 0:58:51.695 a clean first to remove it. I don't say, will 0:58:51.775 --> 0:58:54.815 bleed through. You spend all this time painting your ceilings 0:58:54.935 --> 0:58:57.455 and in the next week and see all those marks again. 0:58:57.935 --> 0:59:00.295 So you really need to use on those anyway, give 0:59:00.335 --> 0:59:03.495 them a good clean and then use an oil based primer. 0:59:05.095 --> 0:59:09.495 Oil based primers in those circumstances a because increasingly, you know, 0:59:10.295 --> 0:59:13.895 waterborne primers are great, quick dry and that sort of thing, 0:59:13.935 --> 0:59:18.175 but there's still sometimes a specific role for oil based. 0:59:18.815 --> 0:59:21.695 Yes, I mean, ideally you're cleaning it first to remove 0:59:21.735 --> 0:59:25.135 it if there's any sort of marks left. It's a 0:59:25.215 --> 0:59:27.895 mammal undercoats does a really good job of just locking 0:59:27.975 --> 0:59:29.135 that in and stopping. 0:59:28.815 --> 0:59:29.255 It from blean. 0:59:30.575 --> 0:59:32.455 Just on the exterior cleaning, because we were talking about 0:59:32.495 --> 0:59:34.655 that earlier on the show as well, and you know 0:59:34.735 --> 0:59:38.695 people love whipping out the water blaster right, so, which 0:59:38.815 --> 0:59:42.375 is kind of okay but requires restraint in terms of 0:59:42.975 --> 0:59:47.895 if you're using the razine cleaner the housewash, how do 0:59:47.975 --> 0:59:49.535 you actually apply it to the surface. 0:59:50.215 --> 0:59:52.415 I say most people get the water blaster out and 0:59:52.495 --> 0:59:55.895 think that's sufficient. But I know from myself from cleaning 0:59:55.975 --> 0:59:58.575 the car, if you don't agitate the surface and use 0:59:58.655 --> 1:00:01.375 some sort of cleaner, yes, the water blaster doesn't actually 1:00:01.455 --> 1:00:04.815 remove all those masks. It's exactly the same one your 1:00:04.815 --> 1:00:08.215 painted surface. If you don't move all the surface contaminants, 1:00:08.415 --> 1:00:10.935 your new coats of pain aren't going to adhere as well. 1:00:11.775 --> 1:00:13.095 So I know. 1:00:14.855 --> 1:00:18.295 Water blasts have like a soft brush you can attach, 1:00:18.575 --> 1:00:20.775 which you can do low pressure and kind of scrub 1:00:20.855 --> 1:00:24.415 on the cleaner. Yep, I've got one of those. I've 1:00:24.455 --> 1:00:28.575 got an extendable pole that connects to the hose with 1:00:28.695 --> 1:00:31.495 a soft bristle brush on the end, and I've got 1:00:31.575 --> 1:00:34.215 a bucket and make the solution of the razine pain 1:00:34.255 --> 1:00:37.135 prepper and house wash and water up and scrub it on. 1:00:38.415 --> 1:00:38.615 Right. 1:00:39.215 --> 1:00:43.815 Okay, So there, so you've got you make up your solution, 1:00:44.015 --> 1:00:46.375 You get the dilution rate right into a bucket, then 1:00:46.415 --> 1:00:48.615 you dip the heat of the brush into there and 1:00:48.735 --> 1:00:51.135 then apply that so you're getting it. Do you know, 1:00:51.495 --> 1:00:53.655 does anyone ever spray it on, like with a backpeck 1:00:53.695 --> 1:00:54.615 spray or something like that. 1:00:55.895 --> 1:00:58.735 Uh, yes, I suppose you can do, but it's it's 1:00:58.775 --> 1:01:00.855 really you can spread it all long, but you still 1:01:00.895 --> 1:01:05.615 need to agitate the surface, right, Okay, saying like you 1:01:05.655 --> 1:01:09.015 could spray the subd on the car's probably the easiest ones. 1:01:09.135 --> 1:01:12.095 Most people clean their car once or twice the week 1:01:12.215 --> 1:01:16.295 or month, So think about when you're doing that. It's 1:01:16.455 --> 1:01:18.935 any other surface you're cleaning is exactly the same. Like, 1:01:19.095 --> 1:01:21.495 you can't just spread it on, leave it and then 1:01:21.695 --> 1:01:23.775 wash it off because you're just going to have marks 1:01:23.815 --> 1:01:26.815 and runs and leave lots behind. You really need to 1:01:26.815 --> 1:01:30.015 get that sponge out or brush out. Yeah, agitate the 1:01:30.095 --> 1:01:32.855 surface and make sure you clean everything off and then 1:01:33.015 --> 1:01:33.895 wash it down afterwards. 1:01:34.295 --> 1:01:35.655 It sounds like a bit of elbow grisse. 1:01:35.695 --> 1:01:35.815 You know. 1:01:35.935 --> 1:01:39.815 You can actually get like cordless brushes now that editate, 1:01:39.975 --> 1:01:43.135 so you just but yeah, anyway, we'll talk about that 1:01:43.215 --> 1:01:45.295 some other time. I might have to sort one out 1:01:45.295 --> 1:01:47.455 for you, right Yoh, let's rip into a couple of 1:01:47.575 --> 1:01:52.455 text messages. Actually, first one email recently someone has recently 1:01:52.575 --> 1:01:56.895 bought a mid nineties stucco pibble plaster clad house and 1:01:56.975 --> 1:02:00.655 napier doing some small repairs to the plaster. Can't seem 1:02:00.735 --> 1:02:03.095 to get the color match right, so they've gone out. 1:02:03.135 --> 1:02:05.135 They bought a number of test spots, but not quite 1:02:05.215 --> 1:02:08.895 getting the color right. Is there a sort of definitive 1:02:08.975 --> 1:02:11.855 way to get a color match if you can't use 1:02:11.935 --> 1:02:13.935 the swatches or test pots? 1:02:15.495 --> 1:02:17.655 It's a bit hard on textured surfaces. 1:02:17.815 --> 1:02:18.015 Yeah. 1:02:18.775 --> 1:02:21.655 A lot of the time, the same paint has been 1:02:21.775 --> 1:02:25.255 used on the dam pipes and the clips that hold 1:02:25.295 --> 1:02:28.215 the damn pipes on, which are really easy to remove, 1:02:28.855 --> 1:02:31.055 So you could take one of those off into local 1:02:31.175 --> 1:02:33.495 razine and they might be able to do a better 1:02:34.255 --> 1:02:38.055 job getting closer with the color. It's usually the easiest 1:02:38.095 --> 1:02:40.015 way to do it, especially on a textured surface. 1:02:40.335 --> 1:02:45.095 Yeah, okay, oh that's brilliant now. Another one is a 1:02:45.215 --> 1:02:49.095 nineteen eighties house that's got what they're calling vibra pact blocks, 1:02:49.135 --> 1:02:51.695 so just standard masonry blocks. The garage is painted on 1:02:51.735 --> 1:02:54.575 the inside, but it's blistering and flaking. Now they are 1:02:54.655 --> 1:02:57.175 aware that maybe there's an issue with some moisture, like 1:02:57.295 --> 1:03:00.575 the outside ground level is piled up against the block work. 1:03:01.815 --> 1:03:05.575 If they were going to paint it, what's the well 1:03:05.895 --> 1:03:07.135 should they painted. 1:03:07.295 --> 1:03:11.015 Or the thing is is it sort of bubbling and 1:03:11.055 --> 1:03:14.015 blistering on the inside. There's already a coating on and 1:03:14.095 --> 1:03:17.735 it's kind of the effhuorescence causing issues, which is the 1:03:17.815 --> 1:03:22.655 moisture coming through the block If you're in that situation. Obviously, 1:03:22.695 --> 1:03:26.455 if it's soil, it's another big job. It's even if 1:03:26.495 --> 1:03:30.415 it's concrete pathways, you really, ideally that should be sort 1:03:30.455 --> 1:03:34.455 of tank lined before it gets back filled. It might 1:03:34.495 --> 1:03:36.175 have been it might have been damaged, it might have 1:03:36.215 --> 1:03:39.295 been done a long time ago and the coating damaged 1:03:39.335 --> 1:03:42.455 in some way, and that's why there's moisture coming through. Ideally, 1:03:42.615 --> 1:03:45.495 if you can't, you want to locate the point of 1:03:45.575 --> 1:03:49.055 water ingress and eliminate it. So that sort of situation, 1:03:49.255 --> 1:03:52.255 you really want to dig out the outside, let it 1:03:52.375 --> 1:03:56.295 dry out, seal it all up, and then put the 1:03:56.615 --> 1:03:59.455 earth or pathway or whatever it is back. Garden beds 1:03:59.535 --> 1:04:02.655 is another big one before sort of attacking the inside. 1:04:03.215 --> 1:04:06.055 If that really isn't possible and you just want to 1:04:06.295 --> 1:04:08.855 id up the inside, it's a case of removing all 1:04:08.895 --> 1:04:14.215 the loose flaky material ceiling with raisine shore seal, and 1:04:14.335 --> 1:04:17.255 then you can repaint, but it will be an ongo 1:04:17.335 --> 1:04:19.695 an issue. You've still got that moisture getting. 1:04:19.535 --> 1:04:22.495 In from somewhere yep, and you can't expect the paint 1:04:22.535 --> 1:04:27.735 to hold back the moisture. Basically, okay, right, help please. 1:04:27.895 --> 1:04:32.535 I have removed wallpaper, shore sealed, plastered prime to top coats. 1:04:33.015 --> 1:04:36.455 All of the corners have come out late later, so 1:04:36.575 --> 1:04:40.255 I repainted all of the corners. Now they're worse. What's 1:04:40.295 --> 1:04:41.455 going on for Karen there? 1:04:43.895 --> 1:04:45.855 It's kind of without seeing that one, it's a bit 1:04:45.935 --> 1:04:49.455 hard a lot of the time. The first thing that 1:04:49.655 --> 1:04:58.495 jumps to my mind isn't it's where you get a 1:04:59.055 --> 1:05:01.455 lot of the time you cut in with a brush 1:05:01.535 --> 1:05:03.215 and you end up getting more paint on than you 1:05:03.335 --> 1:05:07.775 do with the roller. Yes, it's you need to get 1:05:07.895 --> 1:05:10.855 more paint on with the role that's a uniform. If 1:05:10.935 --> 1:05:13.855 it's not sort of that situation and it's kind of 1:05:13.935 --> 1:05:19.295 lighter in the corners, whether if it's been you said, sealed, 1:05:19.375 --> 1:05:22.735 then plastered and then sealed and painted, could just be 1:05:22.975 --> 1:05:26.775 where that ceiler is. If it's slightly lower in those 1:05:26.935 --> 1:05:30.375 corner areas and there's light coming through it might just 1:05:30.495 --> 1:05:33.815 look lighter due to the clinical light that's coming into 1:05:33.855 --> 1:05:38.335 the room, right, But depending on the area of the country, 1:05:38.375 --> 1:05:41.015 and maybe take some pictures into your local color shop 1:05:42.055 --> 1:05:44.135 or see if we can get somebody to come out 1:05:44.175 --> 1:05:47.575 and have a look. It's a bit hard to kind 1:05:47.575 --> 1:05:50.415 of a light issue to discuss on the phones. A 1:05:50.455 --> 1:05:51.855 little bits up. 1:05:52.615 --> 1:05:55.135 That sort of issue around picture framing, you know when we. 1:05:55.295 --> 1:05:59.815 Take that looking more than Me picture framing. 1:06:00.055 --> 1:06:01.895 We did that little video the other day, so we're 1:06:01.935 --> 1:06:04.135 talking about it that. You know, if you as you're 1:06:04.175 --> 1:06:06.255 cutting and if you go into it, you start painting 1:06:06.415 --> 1:06:09.175 room and you go around your cutter and everywhere, and 1:06:09.415 --> 1:06:12.495 then you grab your roller and start painting. Although the 1:06:12.615 --> 1:06:14.575 area that you first started and is going to be 1:06:14.655 --> 1:06:15.695 bone dry, isn't. 1:06:15.495 --> 1:06:18.535 It, So you really want to keep that wet edge 1:06:19.575 --> 1:06:20.375 blending together. 1:06:20.935 --> 1:06:21.655 It's also. 1:06:23.175 --> 1:06:25.735 If you can roll up as close as possible to 1:06:26.255 --> 1:06:28.695 the ceiling or the edge so you don't end up 1:06:28.735 --> 1:06:31.815 with like a much bigger brush line. If you use 1:06:32.855 --> 1:06:35.095 seventy five hundred mil brush and you're coming a long 1:06:35.135 --> 1:06:37.095 way off the edge and you're only rolling up to that, 1:06:37.935 --> 1:06:40.055 you're going to have the brush marks going one way 1:06:40.135 --> 1:06:42.695 and the roller lines going another and again it just 1:06:42.815 --> 1:06:47.175 comes down to the lighting highlights those kind of imperfections. Yes, 1:06:47.655 --> 1:06:50.015 but it's like I said, the picture framing, which is 1:06:50.055 --> 1:06:53.095 the word I was trying to get out. Really, if 1:06:53.175 --> 1:06:55.295 you want to keep a wet edge, if it's a 1:06:55.335 --> 1:06:59.135 big room, maybe get a couple of people to help, 1:06:59.215 --> 1:07:02.495 so one's cutting in, one's rolling, or only cut in 1:07:02.695 --> 1:07:05.135 so far and then roll and then move on to 1:07:05.215 --> 1:07:05.815 the next wall. 1:07:06.855 --> 1:07:07.255 Brilliant. 1:07:07.335 --> 1:07:10.015 Also, we're coming into the time of year. Razine hot 1:07:10.095 --> 1:07:12.815 weather additive just slows down the dry time, increases the 1:07:12.855 --> 1:07:15.495 flow of the paint and just helps with those situations. 1:07:15.735 --> 1:07:18.695 Yeah, and never paint and direct sunlight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:07:19.575 --> 1:07:21.535 last one for you. This is a great one. Actually, 1:07:22.055 --> 1:07:24.175 morning pick regarding the cleaning of the exterior of the 1:07:24.215 --> 1:07:26.895 house with say the razine cleaner. Do I need to 1:07:27.055 --> 1:07:30.495 protect my new Vitex decking or is it safe for 1:07:30.575 --> 1:07:31.975 the cleaner to drop onto it? 1:07:33.815 --> 1:07:37.735 Well, the razim what's the mole killer is sort of 1:07:38.615 --> 1:07:42.215 sodium hyperchloride or sort of bleach based cleaner. Yes, so 1:07:42.415 --> 1:07:46.495 you really want to protect anything around it for the decking. 1:07:46.975 --> 1:07:50.335 A lot of time I'd wet the area down first, 1:07:50.495 --> 1:07:53.175 just so anything that goes on kind of gets diluted 1:07:53.215 --> 1:07:57.255 a bit, and it's not going directly onto a dry deck. 1:07:57.895 --> 1:08:00.335 But anything you can do to protect the areas that 1:08:00.415 --> 1:08:02.655 you don't want to get any of the clean or 1:08:02.775 --> 1:08:07.575 get damaged at all. Gardens, plants, Yeah, you see the 1:08:07.575 --> 1:08:09.255 big thing with the sort of cleaners. 1:08:10.615 --> 1:08:11.975 You know, a little while ago I talked to you 1:08:12.015 --> 1:08:15.255 about trying to get some mold growth off the bathroom 1:08:15.335 --> 1:08:17.735 ceiling and a property that I look after, and so 1:08:18.455 --> 1:08:21.895 I got the proper you know, house interior wash and 1:08:21.975 --> 1:08:23.895 prep and mold keller and that sort of thing, and 1:08:24.015 --> 1:08:28.175 I applied lots of it and quite vigorously. And I 1:08:28.255 --> 1:08:30.375 did notice that the old shirt that I'd been wearing 1:08:30.455 --> 1:08:32.895 has got marks all over it, So you do have 1:08:32.975 --> 1:08:36.455 to be a bit careful. It's very effective, like. 1:08:37.135 --> 1:08:39.895 Put it in the backpack spread and it might drip 1:08:39.975 --> 1:08:42.815 on the T shirt, just like if you're doing jobs 1:08:43.095 --> 1:08:46.055 around the house with painting, cleaners, wear old clothes or 1:08:46.055 --> 1:08:47.775 stuff you don't mind I forget damaged. 1:08:48.335 --> 1:08:51.735 Yeah, absolutely, all right, great advice as always, mate, Thank 1:08:51.775 --> 1:08:55.175 you very much, and enjoy the day, enjoy the sunshine, 1:08:55.215 --> 1:08:56.775 and we'll we'll talk again soon. 1:08:57.375 --> 1:08:59.295 Sounds good. Thank you, Thank you. 1:08:59.375 --> 1:09:01.855 All of this to you, Jay, Jay our painting expert 1:09:01.975 --> 1:09:04.655 from Razine, and great advice that he mentioned earlier. You know, 1:09:04.695 --> 1:09:07.255 if you're struggling to find the color match and so on, 1:09:07.575 --> 1:09:10.095 maybe bring the sample into the store and there'll be 1:09:10.175 --> 1:09:12.055 someone with the experience who'll be able to help you 1:09:12.175 --> 1:09:15.455 out with that as well. Great advice always and great 1:09:15.495 --> 1:09:18.575 advice in store at your local Razine color shop. Your 1:09:18.655 --> 1:09:20.495 news Talks here, b we'll take a short break. We'll 1:09:20.495 --> 1:09:23.055 be back with your calls right up till eight o'clock 1:09:23.135 --> 1:09:25.455 in the next hour. Of course, the red climb passed 1:09:25.495 --> 1:09:27.575 will join us. Looking forward to catching up with him. 1:09:27.775 --> 1:09:30.575 And I want to know more about this artillery fungus. 1:09:31.015 --> 1:09:32.775 It's got to be one of the best names out there. 1:09:33.055 --> 1:09:34.855 Back in your news Talks, he'd be in a quick 1:09:34.895 --> 1:09:38.735 painting question from you. Gary, Good morning, Hi morning. 1:09:40.655 --> 1:09:43.895 I was hanging on that conversation with Jay because it's 1:09:43.935 --> 1:09:45.135 exactly there that I'm. 1:09:45.815 --> 1:09:46.135 Go for it. 1:09:46.375 --> 1:09:47.255 I'm sure I can now. 1:09:49.095 --> 1:09:52.975 So so we South Coast, well, I can at the 1:09:53.015 --> 1:09:56.895 bottom levels, you know, usually sort of reinforced steel block, 1:09:57.975 --> 1:10:01.735 but it's got to so render over it. And we've 1:10:01.775 --> 1:10:05.095 been here about ten years. It's it's kind of cantileave 1:10:05.135 --> 1:10:07.775 it out and it's not people, so how I haven't 1:10:07.815 --> 1:10:08.055 got to. 1:10:08.135 --> 1:10:08.655 It over time. 1:10:08.735 --> 1:10:10.495 And so now there's quite a lot of mold and 1:10:11.295 --> 1:10:14.775 like and on the external window leads as well, that 1:10:14.935 --> 1:10:19.055 nasty sort of yellow orangey one. So so we're needing 1:10:19.135 --> 1:10:23.495 to paint, you know, tie up and paint the ex 1:10:23.895 --> 1:10:27.615 stow render. So so I guess from talking to the 1:10:27.655 --> 1:10:30.495 hearing about Jay, I mean that was the mold sounds 1:10:30.575 --> 1:10:35.895 like a part of the process. And but you know, 1:10:35.975 --> 1:10:38.095 it's it's it's it's a render, so it's it's not 1:10:38.175 --> 1:10:38.775 a coarse one. 1:10:38.815 --> 1:10:39.535 It's a really sort of. 1:10:39.535 --> 1:10:42.815 Fine like what they call a sponge finishing with a 1:10:43.255 --> 1:10:44.775 trailed on and sponge finished. 1:10:44.855 --> 1:10:47.455 Yeah yeah, yeah, but you wouldn't sort of have a 1:10:47.495 --> 1:10:51.335 go at it with a water blasts or anything because no, no, no. 1:10:51.495 --> 1:10:55.335 Not at all. And I mean if it's difficult access 1:10:55.375 --> 1:10:57.455 and sign you may have to get some scaffolding obviously 1:10:57.575 --> 1:10:59.215 to get up there because you want to take a 1:10:59.255 --> 1:11:03.495 bit of time. So and most likely it'll be multiple 1:11:03.615 --> 1:11:08.135 applications of the cleaner, so sort of an inn shall clean, agitate, rinse, 1:11:08.375 --> 1:11:11.055 leave it for a little while, do it again and 1:11:11.215 --> 1:11:15.615 be really confident that the treatment that you've used has 1:11:15.775 --> 1:11:18.415 killed any of that organic material it's on the surface 1:11:18.495 --> 1:11:21.975 of the paint. It might be worth getting some advice 1:11:22.095 --> 1:11:24.775 as to whether or not you need to apply if 1:11:25.375 --> 1:11:28.295 typically you can overcoat within a certain period of time, 1:11:28.375 --> 1:11:31.855 but if that time has extended out too long there 1:11:31.935 --> 1:11:35.735 might be a benefit. And then applying a primer that 1:11:35.855 --> 1:11:38.815 will key into the surface so that your top coated 1:11:38.855 --> 1:11:41.415 hair is properly that would be worth. 1:11:42.175 --> 1:11:46.615 Actually, yeah, and then from what when Jay was talking 1:11:46.615 --> 1:11:48.695 about the based prime so apply. 1:11:50.895 --> 1:11:54.575 Because no, possibly not. I mean, I know, for example, 1:11:54.655 --> 1:11:59.335 you will often use pigmented seala on beer masonry. The 1:11:59.455 --> 1:12:02.495 fact that's already been coated and has you know, so 1:12:02.575 --> 1:12:05.455 you've got the masonry or the semititious material, then you've 1:12:05.495 --> 1:12:07.775 got a paint finish, and now you're applying over the top. 1:12:09.615 --> 1:12:11.775 Certainly you could go back to the manufacturers. You could 1:12:11.815 --> 1:12:16.135 go to Razine Construction and see because they have similar products, 1:12:16.175 --> 1:12:17.855 they might be able to give you some advice on that. 1:12:18.055 --> 1:12:23.375 But I would highly recommend getting some advice from either 1:12:23.455 --> 1:12:25.975 the manufacturer or someone who's really experienced in it, just 1:12:26.015 --> 1:12:28.015 to make sure that you're using the right system and 1:12:28.135 --> 1:12:34.575 that you're not inadvertently having compatibility issues that is going 1:12:34.615 --> 1:12:36.735 to cause a paint failure in the future. 1:12:38.175 --> 1:12:39.055 Yeah. Yeah, that's why. 1:12:40.695 --> 1:12:41.295 Called talking to you. 1:12:41.975 --> 1:12:42.935 There's a bit of work to do. 1:12:43.095 --> 1:12:46.255 I mean, it's going to be a cheery thicker I 1:12:46.295 --> 1:12:49.215 think for some of it because it's kind of vehicle 1:12:49.295 --> 1:12:51.735 axis too at the sione that's can't leave it out. Wow, 1:12:51.935 --> 1:12:56.175 okay under the house, you know sort of, so you 1:12:56.335 --> 1:12:59.495 want to be able to move it as well. Okay, 1:13:00.015 --> 1:13:02.975 but we've got the original plans too, so there's definitely 1:13:03.015 --> 1:13:05.335 a color code, so we should a. 1:13:05.415 --> 1:13:08.775 Well, that'll that'll help. Good luck take care of it there. 1:13:08.935 --> 1:13:11.575 All right, all the this see, we're going to take 1:13:11.615 --> 1:13:13.735 another break and then Maverick, we'll be talking to you 1:13:14.015 --> 1:13:18.935 in just a moment. Right. I mentioned Jay, our painting expert. 1:13:18.975 --> 1:13:21.575 We were both at Construct on Thursday, which was also 1:13:21.655 --> 1:13:24.415 the venue for the practical challenge for the Apprentice of 1:13:24.455 --> 1:13:27.095 the Year. This is the carpentry Apprentice of the Year. 1:13:28.135 --> 1:13:32.615 And I mentioned I've went to the gala dinner was 1:13:32.695 --> 1:13:36.295 introduced to the young man Hunter who is the Apprentice 1:13:36.335 --> 1:13:37.895 of the Year. We'll actually get him on the show 1:13:37.975 --> 1:13:40.055 next week and talk to him about what he's doing 1:13:40.135 --> 1:13:42.375 and what he hopes to do in the future. Outstanding 1:13:42.575 --> 1:13:45.695 young man. Actually, all of the people that were there 1:13:45.775 --> 1:13:48.095 were you know, we often get that sort of vision 1:13:48.135 --> 1:13:50.655 of maybe young people and we tune into the news 1:13:50.735 --> 1:13:53.015 so much and so on, and it can get a 1:13:53.055 --> 1:13:56.095 bit doubt disheartening. Let's say, I'll tell you what. Everyone 1:13:56.135 --> 1:14:00.135 that I saw up on that stage and competing eight men, 1:14:00.415 --> 1:14:04.815 one young woman just fantastic young people. You know the 1:14:04.895 --> 1:14:06.895 fact that they've chosen to be carpenter as that sets 1:14:06.935 --> 1:14:11.335 them above everybody else anyway, But they were just fantastic. 1:14:11.375 --> 1:14:13.255 And then they had some past winners as well in 1:14:13.335 --> 1:14:15.575 regional finalists and that who got up to talk about 1:14:15.615 --> 1:14:18.295 where they'd gone to, you know, in their careers and 1:14:18.415 --> 1:14:25.295 again motivated, enthusiastic, engaged, active, you know, just fantastic to 1:14:25.415 --> 1:14:28.535 see young people like that getting a little bit of attention, 1:14:28.615 --> 1:14:33.935 which I thought was fantastic, Right, Maverick, talk to me, Hello. 1:14:34.695 --> 1:14:35.575 Hello, can you hear me? 1:14:35.815 --> 1:14:36.815 I sure can go for it. 1:14:37.735 --> 1:14:40.895 Okay, I've got a good mate down south of Auckland. 1:14:40.935 --> 1:14:43.495 I can't tell you where as well, south of Auckland, 1:14:44.295 --> 1:14:48.055 and about ten years ago, he bought a property beer 1:14:48.175 --> 1:14:51.935 Land except for an old wolfshed and planted out with 1:14:52.375 --> 1:14:55.535 three other fruit trees. He's an ecologist, prima closure guy 1:14:56.175 --> 1:15:00.655 and also a lanscape architect and very clever guy. So 1:15:00.775 --> 1:15:06.855 he converted the woolshed and into a well for his 1:15:07.015 --> 1:15:11.615 Family's got a beautiful white and three young daughters and 1:15:12.455 --> 1:15:14.735 did a stunning job. It's only fifty square meters, but 1:15:15.935 --> 1:15:19.735 he's worked out space savings, et cetera. And all the 1:15:19.855 --> 1:15:25.375 time he approached council to get compliance, but for whatever reason, 1:15:26.175 --> 1:15:28.895 they kept changing the rules and after years and years 1:15:28.935 --> 1:15:31.775 and years of trying, he gave up and told him 1:15:31.815 --> 1:15:35.295 never to cast a shadow on his property again, which 1:15:35.415 --> 1:15:39.335 was a mistake in hindfight. Was now the council. After 1:15:39.535 --> 1:15:42.415 years and years of fighting them and him fighting back 1:15:42.855 --> 1:15:46.815 with interest, they've got a court order from the local 1:15:46.895 --> 1:15:49.055 district court to demolish his house. 1:15:52.335 --> 1:15:55.295 At the very beginning of that process, did he get 1:15:55.295 --> 1:16:00.295 a building consent for the conversion of effectively a farm 1:16:00.375 --> 1:16:02.615 building into a habitable space into a home. 1:16:03.735 --> 1:16:08.375 I honestly don't know, Pete, I don't know all right. 1:16:09.415 --> 1:16:11.255 There could be a couple of things going on. One 1:16:11.295 --> 1:16:14.455 of them is that he didn't and maybe he got 1:16:14.495 --> 1:16:16.535 some advice that he didn't need to get a building 1:16:16.575 --> 1:16:19.135 consent for that. If it's work, it's been done in 1:16:19.175 --> 1:16:22.575 the last twenty twenty five years. It has always required 1:16:22.575 --> 1:16:25.055 a building consent. So if he went ahead and did 1:16:25.135 --> 1:16:28.735 the conversion and didn't get a building consent, then yeah, 1:16:28.775 --> 1:16:30.935 the building is going to be deemed to be non 1:16:31.015 --> 1:16:35.055 compliant unless he can prove a certificate of acceptance. But 1:16:35.175 --> 1:16:39.055 the burden of proof for that is nowadays equal to 1:16:39.175 --> 1:16:42.695 your building consent, and he would have to prove compliance 1:16:42.735 --> 1:16:46.495 with a building code for you know, just a myriad 1:16:46.535 --> 1:16:49.535 of things. And if he's dug his toes in with 1:16:49.735 --> 1:16:52.695 counsel and doesn't want to play that game, then and 1:16:53.135 --> 1:16:55.655 he's managed to get offside with counsel, which sounds like 1:16:55.735 --> 1:16:58.895 he has, then counsel will push for an enforcement and 1:16:58.975 --> 1:17:01.695 say you can't live in that dwelling and that dwell 1:17:01.775 --> 1:17:04.775 and because it's unlikely that you'll move out of it 1:17:04.855 --> 1:17:08.775 and not go back into it, where going to push hard. Personally, 1:17:09.135 --> 1:17:11.815 I think it's a tremendous waste of time and energy 1:17:11.895 --> 1:17:15.815 for counsel to be pursuing this, and it would have 1:17:15.895 --> 1:17:19.095 cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. So 1:17:19.215 --> 1:17:22.615 I don't like to see our ratepayers money being spent 1:17:22.695 --> 1:17:24.895 on this sort of thing. But it would seem that, 1:17:25.295 --> 1:17:28.735 you know, let's assume that counsel are being lawful and 1:17:28.935 --> 1:17:31.935 that somewhere along the line, unfortunately what he's done has 1:17:32.055 --> 1:17:33.255 been unlawful. 1:17:34.615 --> 1:17:38.175 And he's applied to a CoA over a year ago 1:17:38.255 --> 1:17:42.575 and they refuse to accept his submission. They don't want 1:17:42.575 --> 1:17:46.215 to know that they've got a vendetta against them because 1:17:46.415 --> 1:17:47.495 he's one of these guys. 1:17:47.375 --> 1:17:51.655 That, yeah, and look good on him for standing up 1:17:51.695 --> 1:17:54.375 to the man, and you know, I'm all for that, right, 1:17:54.975 --> 1:17:58.655 but you know, he's also got to prove compliance. Now, 1:17:58.695 --> 1:18:03.455 if counsel decide that they won't accept his submission, then 1:18:03.535 --> 1:18:06.455 perhaps he needs to get some advice from some one 1:18:06.495 --> 1:18:08.895 who will go into bat for him. So maybe a 1:18:08.935 --> 1:18:12.535 building surveyor or a building scientist who can then argue 1:18:12.655 --> 1:18:15.055 on his behalf. If he's just said to them, hey, look, 1:18:15.095 --> 1:18:17.855 the building's fine, give me a CEO A. They're not 1:18:17.935 --> 1:18:20.255 going to do that. But if he can prove compliance, 1:18:20.455 --> 1:18:23.455 and then you know, if if counsel and look, councils 1:18:23.535 --> 1:18:27.015 can be unreasonable right, and councils have been challenged by 1:18:27.095 --> 1:18:31.095 people who have got determinations from himby and have been 1:18:31.175 --> 1:18:34.815 found to have acted incorrectly. So he could go down 1:18:34.855 --> 1:18:38.375 that path, but he needs to then get you know, 1:18:38.855 --> 1:18:42.175 a building expert, like a surveyor on his side to 1:18:42.375 --> 1:18:43.255 help with that battle. 1:18:44.895 --> 1:18:48.975 The problem is they will not accept any submission from 1:18:49.055 --> 1:18:56.375 them whatsoever. It's offered every possibility to the Delah. 1:18:56.575 --> 1:18:57.535 That sounds unreasonable. 1:18:58.895 --> 1:19:04.135 Yeah, totally, and he is stressed for the MAXI is 1:19:04.135 --> 1:19:04.935 a bloody good guy. 1:19:05.135 --> 1:19:10.295 Yeah, look, I do just quickly because we're going to 1:19:10.335 --> 1:19:12.815 run into the news. You know, maybe it's worth talking 1:19:12.895 --> 1:19:18.295 to like a council, like an elected representative, or possibly 1:19:18.335 --> 1:19:20.695 even to your MP to at least stave it off, 1:19:20.735 --> 1:19:23.455 because you know, I think it's unjustified for counsel to 1:19:23.495 --> 1:19:25.415 come in and just demand that they're going to demolish 1:19:25.495 --> 1:19:29.655 the house. That seems excessive and an abusive power. Frankly, 1:19:31.815 --> 1:19:34.895 so could you yeah, well it may well be. Can 1:19:34.935 --> 1:19:36.295 you let us know how you get on with that 1:19:36.495 --> 1:19:38.455 or how you make it gets on and appreciate the call. 1:19:38.695 --> 1:19:40.775 We're back after the news at eight o'clock. Well, welcome 1:19:40.775 --> 1:19:42.815 back to the program. At Pete wolf Camp's my name. 1:19:42.895 --> 1:19:45.455 This is the resident builder. On Sunday, we'll talk all 1:19:45.495 --> 1:19:48.975 things building in construction and just a moment just prior 1:19:49.055 --> 1:19:51.415 to the news, Maverick was talking about the situation that 1:19:51.495 --> 1:19:55.655 his mates got into where council have decided to enforce 1:19:55.775 --> 1:19:59.455 a sort of non compliance order by demolishing the guy's house. 1:19:59.535 --> 1:20:01.975 And I agree with this text that came through the 1:20:02.055 --> 1:20:05.535 guy about his friends dwelling. Sounds very upset. Understandably, even 1:20:05.535 --> 1:20:08.375 if it's noncom client, to demolish it as ridiculous. Go 1:20:08.495 --> 1:20:10.175 and see the local MP to see if they can 1:20:10.255 --> 1:20:13.615 help and mediate it. If it's perfectly livable, I mean, 1:20:13.655 --> 1:20:15.615 if it is liverable, he needs to get compliance for it. 1:20:15.695 --> 1:20:19.055 That's fair enough. But to enforce a demolition order does 1:20:19.175 --> 1:20:20.535 seem vindictive, doesn't it? 1:20:21.015 --> 1:20:21.175 Right? 1:20:21.295 --> 1:20:23.575 Oh, we are going to be talking to rud climb 1:20:23.575 --> 1:20:26.135 Past at around eight point thirty this morning. We'll take 1:20:26.295 --> 1:20:29.215 your calls between now and then. It is seven after eight. 1:20:30.815 --> 1:20:34.855 Zi b Skyline Buildings is a trusted name in New 1:20:34.975 --> 1:20:37.935 Zealand with a legacy that began in nineteen fifty six 1:20:38.255 --> 1:20:42.855 and continues to stand strong today, specializing in garages, cottages 1:20:42.975 --> 1:20:46.895 and car Ports. Skyline operates right across and with forty 1:20:47.055 --> 1:20:50.815 independently owned and operated distributors right across the country. Today 1:20:50.855 --> 1:20:53.895 we're joined by Chris Cook, general manager of Skyline Buildings, 1:20:54.175 --> 1:20:58.055 to discuss the advantages of using Jframe, a high quality 1:20:58.335 --> 1:21:02.495 LVL framing product that has brought both performance and sustainability 1:21:02.655 --> 1:21:04.855 to their projects. A very good morning to you, Chris. 1:21:06.815 --> 1:21:07.575 How are you now? 1:21:07.815 --> 1:21:10.495 I'm very well, thank you. Now, key advantages for you 1:21:10.655 --> 1:21:12.775 guys moving to jframe. 1:21:14.695 --> 1:21:17.655 Oh, look, there's three big advantages for us. First of all, 1:21:17.695 --> 1:21:21.415 that it's straight, two that it's strong, and three that 1:21:21.575 --> 1:21:23.735 it looks good. And all of those are very important 1:21:23.775 --> 1:21:28.775 to us. Absolutely, the straight straightness, particularly with our product. Look, 1:21:28.775 --> 1:21:31.855 a lot of Skyline buildings and skyll and garages are 1:21:32.055 --> 1:21:36.415 clad in metal cladding, metalware the board, and if it's 1:21:36.495 --> 1:21:40.055 not straight, it can look terrible. You get ripples in 1:21:40.135 --> 1:21:42.735 the clouding from the exterior. You can see to milo 1:21:42.855 --> 1:21:45.335 when the sun hits it. So the straightness is probably 1:21:45.455 --> 1:21:47.615 the key thing for us. And since we've got a 1:21:47.735 --> 1:21:52.215 jframe that's been fantastic and you know, it's definitely it's 1:21:52.215 --> 1:21:53.655 a key advantage for us, and it's a point of 1:21:53.695 --> 1:21:55.695 difference for our products. So we're very pleased to be 1:21:55.775 --> 1:21:56.535 using jframe. 1:21:56.895 --> 1:21:57.015 Now. 1:21:57.135 --> 1:21:59.655 Jframe has been around since two thousand and six. When 1:21:59.735 --> 1:22:01.495 did Skyline Buildings start using it? 1:22:03.175 --> 1:22:06.135 Well, look, we were made aware of it from Buddings 1:22:06.495 --> 1:22:10.295 in about twenty thirteen and they strongly recommend They've been 1:22:10.335 --> 1:22:13.015 using it themselves in different areas and they recommend that 1:22:13.095 --> 1:22:16.375 we change over. And look, it was one of the 1:22:16.415 --> 1:22:20.695 best decisions that we've ever made, and we'd have a 1:22:20.815 --> 1:22:23.415 huge struggle not to use jframe announce. It's been incredibly 1:22:23.455 --> 1:22:26.615 popular with our distributors, with our builders, they don't want 1:22:26.615 --> 1:22:29.255 to use anything else. So no, no, we're very pleased 1:22:29.255 --> 1:22:29.415 with that. 1:22:30.095 --> 1:22:33.695 So in terms of that transition, any challenges if any 1:22:33.775 --> 1:22:36.895 for Skyline when you moved to J frame and the 1:22:37.015 --> 1:22:39.055 outcome has sounds like it has been positive. 1:22:40.575 --> 1:22:42.295 Oh, look we've. 1:22:43.855 --> 1:22:46.135 No challenges. No, Look, I mean the comment that we've 1:22:46.135 --> 1:22:50.415 heard initially was that the timber is incredibly hard and 1:22:50.775 --> 1:22:53.255 unfortunately you have people they use nail guns. 1:22:53.095 --> 1:22:53.455 What have you. 1:22:53.535 --> 1:22:55.415 But look, I would wouldn't end be anyone wanting to 1:22:55.975 --> 1:22:57.615 put a garage together with a hammer and nail. 1:22:58.495 --> 1:23:01.975 But that's a positive. 1:23:02.015 --> 1:23:06.455 Hey, And what's really important for you. Jframe contributes to 1:23:06.775 --> 1:23:10.095 weather resistance. So how does that impact for your business 1:23:10.135 --> 1:23:12.375 given that many of your products are transported, don't they. 1:23:13.775 --> 1:23:19.015 They are indeed, And look if you see a Skyland building, 1:23:19.055 --> 1:23:21.735 the Skyland garage, it looks I suppose when in transport, 1:23:21.775 --> 1:23:24.895 they look like a pack of timber covered with plastic 1:23:25.655 --> 1:23:28.255 cheating over the top of it. And look at the 1:23:28.375 --> 1:23:31.775 absorption of moisture is particularly where our garages go. They 1:23:31.815 --> 1:23:34.615 go from you know deep in to the South Island 1:23:34.735 --> 1:23:37.095 all the way up to the throughous parts of the 1:23:37.495 --> 1:23:41.975 North Island. Yeah, whether the absorption of water and moisture 1:23:42.015 --> 1:23:45.175 is very important while it makes it back and credibly 1:23:45.335 --> 1:23:47.975 be to transport and also it's not very good for 1:23:48.095 --> 1:23:51.495 the for the structure itself. So no, no, Since we've 1:23:51.495 --> 1:23:54.335 gone to j Frame, it has been absolutely fantastic and 1:23:54.815 --> 1:23:58.015 I think doesn't absorb the moisture like other timbers. 1:23:58.215 --> 1:24:01.335 Yeah, really important for the core part of your business. 1:24:01.775 --> 1:24:04.655 People will be i think surprised by the range of products. 1:24:04.695 --> 1:24:07.815 So I'd encourage you to check out Skyline Buildings at 1:24:08.055 --> 1:24:11.455 Skyline Buildings dot co dot Nz. For more details on 1:24:11.895 --> 1:24:15.455 Jframe go to Janel dot Co dot m said Chris, 1:24:15.655 --> 1:24:17.455 thanks very much for joining us this morning. 1:24:17.535 --> 1:24:18.655 Oh absolute pleasure, Peter. 1:24:19.895 --> 1:24:23.495 News dogs'd be news dogs. He'd be eleven minutes after 1:24:23.775 --> 1:24:26.335 eight eight hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to call. 1:24:26.615 --> 1:24:27.975 Raywan A very good morning to you. 1:24:28.975 --> 1:24:33.295 Oh good morning, Pete. I've got well, it's probably not 1:24:33.415 --> 1:24:36.655 my problem because I live in a retirement village. But 1:24:37.175 --> 1:24:39.895 I noticed of probably a couple of months ago now 1:24:39.975 --> 1:24:43.695 or more, notice this brown mark on the carpet between 1:24:43.735 --> 1:24:47.415 the bathroom and the living area. And so I got 1:24:47.455 --> 1:24:50.055 the village village assistant guy to come and have a lock, 1:24:50.615 --> 1:24:53.175 and he pulled the carpet away and it was all 1:24:53.575 --> 1:24:59.415 moldy under there, all MOLDI along the well on the underlay, 1:24:59.575 --> 1:25:02.535 and a piece of what appears to be a wooden strip, 1:25:02.655 --> 1:25:05.095 and then you can see down to the concrete. And 1:25:05.735 --> 1:25:07.735 so he drives do all up and we've been just checking, 1:25:07.815 --> 1:25:11.095 but they don't know where it's coming from. And I 1:25:11.135 --> 1:25:13.735 don't know if it's still leaking, because I've given up 1:25:13.775 --> 1:25:15.135 looking at it every time I have a shower. 1:25:15.695 --> 1:25:20.175 So where do you see the evidence of moisture and grease? 1:25:20.255 --> 1:25:23.175 So the brown standing is it inside the bathroom or 1:25:23.535 --> 1:25:24.815 in an adjoining room. 1:25:25.535 --> 1:25:27.775 There's no evidence of any They thought it was water 1:25:27.855 --> 1:25:30.095 running down from the shower across the fine I said, 1:25:30.095 --> 1:25:33.295 I would notice it it was running, I'd see it, 1:25:33.935 --> 1:25:35.855 and so there's not. And then they thought it was 1:25:35.855 --> 1:25:37.655 a drip from the shower door. But the shower door, 1:25:37.695 --> 1:25:40.615 the way it hangs, it drips inside inside the power. 1:25:41.255 --> 1:25:45.655 So they're just they just bewildered at what caused it. 1:25:46.535 --> 1:25:49.255 If it is caused by a leak under the tiles, 1:25:49.295 --> 1:25:51.935 then they'd have to dig all the tiles up and 1:25:52.055 --> 1:25:54.615 I have to move out, but for a while. But 1:25:54.975 --> 1:25:57.975 I just thought you you may have any other suggestions. 1:25:58.055 --> 1:26:00.415 It's checked that my son is a builder, and he's 1:26:00.415 --> 1:26:04.255 suggested looking up in the manhole in the adjoining bedroom 1:26:04.935 --> 1:26:07.975 see there's anything coming through through the walls. But they 1:26:08.055 --> 1:26:09.095 didn't see anything up there. 1:26:09.775 --> 1:26:12.175 Do you know if there's an isolation valve for the 1:26:12.335 --> 1:26:14.095 water just to your. 1:26:14.255 --> 1:26:19.575 Unit, Yeah, there would be. There would be to turn 1:26:19.615 --> 1:26:20.895 the water off on the outside. 1:26:22.135 --> 1:26:24.975 That's what I'm thinking, just sometimes. You know, obviously we 1:26:25.015 --> 1:26:28.215 can get leaks from that are active because it's coming 1:26:28.255 --> 1:26:31.295 from the pipework, and the simplest way to identify that 1:26:31.495 --> 1:26:34.055 is to be able to turn the water off and 1:26:34.215 --> 1:26:37.335 then see whether or not the meter continues to run, right. 1:26:37.375 --> 1:26:40.495 So sorry, the meta. 1:26:40.535 --> 1:26:43.015 I don't know whether there's a meta there that'll be. 1:26:43.055 --> 1:26:46.175 The hard thing, or potentially be able to isolate the 1:26:46.215 --> 1:26:50.295 water and see whether the patch goes away, or if 1:26:50.375 --> 1:26:53.855 it's an issue worth waterproofing or selant around the bathroom. 1:26:55.375 --> 1:26:58.175 You know, maybe the waterproofing has been compromised and water's 1:26:58.215 --> 1:27:00.535 getting in behind. Is it tiles on the floor and 1:27:00.615 --> 1:27:01.375 tiles on the wall. 1:27:02.375 --> 1:27:05.775 Yeah, Yeah, it's just really strange. There's no evidence of 1:27:05.855 --> 1:27:08.855 any water on the floor that could be going that way, 1:27:10.095 --> 1:27:13.375 and it's just really strange. And they blamed the dog first, 1:27:13.415 --> 1:27:18.135 but the dogs doesn't weed there, right, But come inside 1:27:18.735 --> 1:27:20.655 after I've been away for a day or something and 1:27:20.695 --> 1:27:23.375 I've come in in the house of smell or meat 1:27:23.735 --> 1:27:27.815 or denk and must and I didn't know it was 1:27:27.895 --> 1:27:31.015 there then, So it's obvious it's just leaked further and 1:27:31.095 --> 1:27:33.895 further up into the carpet and made the carpets round 1:27:33.935 --> 1:27:38.575 them right dark. It's not hideous or anything, but it's there. 1:27:38.735 --> 1:27:42.175 Yeah, And I think you know, often we sort of 1:27:42.295 --> 1:27:46.815 are alerted to what the interior environment of our buildings 1:27:46.935 --> 1:27:48.415 is like is when we do go away for a 1:27:48.455 --> 1:27:50.895 couple of days and then there's that feeling when you 1:27:51.215 --> 1:27:53.855 that smell really open the door and suddenly go, yeah, 1:27:53.895 --> 1:27:56.015 it feels you know, I can tell that the house 1:27:56.055 --> 1:27:59.135 has been locked up, so there's obviously issues with moisture 1:27:59.215 --> 1:28:02.415 or humidity inside the building. Look, I mean the great 1:28:02.495 --> 1:28:06.175 thing is that, ultimately, I assume you've got a lice, 1:28:06.335 --> 1:28:08.655 it's to occupy rather than owning the building, in which 1:28:08.735 --> 1:28:12.415 case the person who administers the license is responsible for it. 1:28:12.455 --> 1:28:14.895 And it's just a question of kind of putting your 1:28:14.935 --> 1:28:16.535 hands on your hips and going I need you to 1:28:16.575 --> 1:28:18.135 sort this out, and I need you to sort out 1:28:18.175 --> 1:28:20.975 now because ultimately it isn't actually your problem, it's theirs. 1:28:22.055 --> 1:28:23.295 That's right, I think. 1:28:25.295 --> 1:28:28.375 Pay good luck with it all, Okay, thank you all 1:28:28.415 --> 1:28:30.935 the best, and Bruce, a very good morning to you. 1:28:32.615 --> 1:28:35.535 Hello, Bruce, good morning to you. 1:28:35.695 --> 1:28:39.255 Peter, good morning, and just listening to your program, you're 1:28:39.415 --> 1:28:47.535 like an alarm clock from listen to it, Peter, and 1:28:47.815 --> 1:28:52.375 reply to a question one of your listeners had about 1:28:53.095 --> 1:29:00.375 flattening under I just this little point and I've experienced 1:29:00.455 --> 1:29:04.535 it on a new build, is that it's the plastic 1:29:04.935 --> 1:29:11.375 and I assume got metal facia around their home. It's 1:29:11.495 --> 1:29:16.015 the meta if the protection plastic hasn't been pulled off 1:29:16.215 --> 1:29:21.215 cleanly on the facia and there's a line of it's 1:29:21.295 --> 1:29:26.255 still left on the top of a facia, that that 1:29:26.855 --> 1:29:29.935 if it's not torn cleanly and not taken all off, 1:29:30.735 --> 1:29:35.015 that can be caught because of the of the flapping 1:29:35.575 --> 1:29:39.375 now so much so the client said to us on 1:29:39.655 --> 1:29:42.855 several occasions and we could never work this one out, 1:29:43.335 --> 1:29:46.815 that they've actually got a screaming noise and we had 1:29:46.895 --> 1:29:49.615 to get it in an I'm in Canterbury and it 1:29:50.095 --> 1:29:54.935 generally happened in a northwest wind and the flapping actually 1:29:55.055 --> 1:30:01.135 developed into a high pitch streaming noise. Just an example. 1:30:01.215 --> 1:30:03.295 I don't know quite a few of my generation, but 1:30:03.415 --> 1:30:05.815 as kids, we used to get sort of a wide 1:30:06.015 --> 1:30:09.295 lead piece of grass, put it between our thumbs and 1:30:09.535 --> 1:30:12.775 blow it and it was like a whistle and that 1:30:13.695 --> 1:30:17.175 that's what the problem was. And it actually was quite 1:30:17.215 --> 1:30:20.695 a big problem for the facial contractor to do to 1:30:21.415 --> 1:30:24.815 remove that because the spouting had to be disconnected to 1:30:24.895 --> 1:30:29.215 get at it to pull it off. So that's what 1:30:29.415 --> 1:30:29.935 we found. 1:30:31.295 --> 1:30:35.855 Are your web, Big Peter, sometimes It is just the 1:30:35.895 --> 1:30:38.415 little things that kind of come back and trip us up. 1:30:38.535 --> 1:30:40.775 Isn't it worth building? You go, Okay, I'm just going 1:30:40.815 --> 1:30:43.375 to peel that protective wrap off and where it rolls 1:30:43.415 --> 1:30:45.415 around the top edge of the facia, no one can 1:30:45.455 --> 1:30:47.735 see it. I'll leave it on there. It's fiddly to 1:30:47.775 --> 1:30:50.455 get off, and then you know suddenly you're back a 1:30:50.615 --> 1:30:54.255 year later, spending hours and hours and hours and maybe 1:30:54.295 --> 1:30:57.255 having the big scaffolding, et cetera, et cetera. So attention 1:30:57.375 --> 1:31:00.455 to detail is always the key. Bruce really appreciate the call. 1:31:01.095 --> 1:31:03.055 A couple of people have texted with regard to that 1:31:03.175 --> 1:31:07.535 demolition order. Obviously there's slowly more to the story, but 1:31:07.575 --> 1:31:10.255 it would be interesting to know more about that. But look, 1:31:10.295 --> 1:31:13.255 I don't think anyone would disagree and say it does 1:31:13.375 --> 1:31:17.255 seem to be an extraordinary heavy handed gesture to go 1:31:17.535 --> 1:31:20.775 and do that. Also, just on the leaking in the shower, Hey, Pete, 1:31:20.815 --> 1:31:22.095 we had a leak in our shower and it was 1:31:22.135 --> 1:31:24.735 told that we had to pay for anything internal in 1:31:24.815 --> 1:31:27.495 a retirement village. So I would have thought that's a 1:31:27.535 --> 1:31:29.895 little bit unfair. I mean, in the end, you didn't 1:31:29.975 --> 1:31:33.255 do the building, your work, that was done by the 1:31:34.415 --> 1:31:40.455 retirement village owner. Certainly, if it was a lack of maintenance, 1:31:40.575 --> 1:31:44.175 let's say that there was a reasonable expectation that you 1:31:44.255 --> 1:31:47.615 would do certain tasks in order to prevent mold growth 1:31:47.735 --> 1:31:49.775 or something like that. I can understand that. But if 1:31:49.815 --> 1:31:53.335 it's an issue with waterproofing or workmanship of pipework and 1:31:53.415 --> 1:31:56.135 so on, how can that be your responsibility? But I 1:31:56.135 --> 1:32:00.535 appreciate the text on that as well. Radio we will 1:32:00.975 --> 1:32:03.255 remember we've got Red Climb passed. At around eight thirty 1:32:03.375 --> 1:32:07.415 this morning. We'll talk to him, definitely going to ask 1:32:07.455 --> 1:32:10.735 about artillery fungus. It's going to be the best name 1:32:10.775 --> 1:32:14.855 for a plant or an organism ever. It's remarkable, So 1:32:14.895 --> 1:32:17.295 we talk about that. But your opportunity to talk to 1:32:17.415 --> 1:32:19.175 route from eight thirty. Will come back with a couple 1:32:19.255 --> 1:32:22.215 more calls in just a moment, right, Oh, last couple 1:32:22.215 --> 1:32:25.295 of calls for the morning on building Dave, Good morning. 1:32:26.295 --> 1:32:29.815 Good morning, Pete. I have a problem in my kitchen. 1:32:29.935 --> 1:32:33.055 You know, it's all tile floor were they've done and 1:32:33.175 --> 1:32:35.855 we've got an island. We have done the cutout for 1:32:35.935 --> 1:32:40.815 the dishwasher. The tile cracked, we have covered out. It's 1:32:40.815 --> 1:32:43.215 about one hundred mill wide. So we've got a guy 1:32:43.255 --> 1:32:47.735 into to repair it. And when he went to repair it, 1:32:48.615 --> 1:32:51.015 we've got the water pipe going out. He put a 1:32:51.055 --> 1:32:51.935 hole in the water pile. 1:32:53.655 --> 1:32:53.855 Yep. 1:32:54.535 --> 1:32:58.775 But you know, like now it's it's cracked again, and 1:32:59.015 --> 1:33:01.735 the tile in front of it is actually cracked as well, 1:33:02.535 --> 1:33:05.095 and we're going to walk around on the tile floor. 1:33:05.495 --> 1:33:08.015 There's a sort of making noise when I stand on 1:33:08.335 --> 1:33:11.895 quite a few of the tiles which they're not fixed down, 1:33:12.015 --> 1:33:14.055 so I'm a bit worried about it. 1:33:16.535 --> 1:33:23.455 The challenge is that if for example, the substrate is 1:33:23.535 --> 1:33:26.495 not well fixed down or possibly an and that could 1:33:26.575 --> 1:33:29.375 be like if you look at the building code today, 1:33:29.455 --> 1:33:31.695 if we're going to do tiles in a bathroom, we 1:33:31.815 --> 1:33:34.095 need to set our choice out at four hundred centers 1:33:34.135 --> 1:33:36.695 and we need to nog at four hundred centers right, 1:33:36.775 --> 1:33:39.255 so it's a massive amount of timber. Then we put 1:33:39.335 --> 1:33:41.775 down a substrate which might be a treated ply, it 1:33:41.895 --> 1:33:44.015 might be a five or cement sheet, et cetera, et cetera, 1:33:44.375 --> 1:33:46.975 and then eventually we put our tiles on it. Now, 1:33:47.775 --> 1:33:50.575 what I'm thinking is that in your situation, an existing 1:33:50.615 --> 1:33:54.455 building that's had tiles applied down over the floor joice 1:33:54.535 --> 1:33:58.215 might be at six hundred centers nogging at two meter centers. 1:33:58.575 --> 1:34:02.615 There's a certain amount of flexibility in there, which in 1:34:02.735 --> 1:34:05.255 some case, if you choose the right adhesive I a 1:34:05.335 --> 1:34:08.655 flexible one rather and a rigid one, it'll take up 1:34:08.695 --> 1:34:10.735 a little bit of that and the tiles will be okay. 1:34:11.215 --> 1:34:14.095 So it might be a problem from when the tiles 1:34:14.135 --> 1:34:19.375 were installed that's causing the issue today, and it's been 1:34:19.455 --> 1:34:21.695 exacerbated by the fact that you've had to cut into 1:34:21.775 --> 1:34:25.055 tiles and loading it up with a dishwasher and so on. 1:34:25.615 --> 1:34:28.455 So it could be a slightly bigger problem than just 1:34:28.575 --> 1:34:30.775 one or two tiles would be my conserner. 1:34:30.855 --> 1:34:34.815 Yeah, the thing is there is a concrete floor in 1:34:34.855 --> 1:34:35.255 the nise. 1:34:35.895 --> 1:34:37.175 Oh it is on a concrete slab. 1:34:38.095 --> 1:34:39.135 There's a concrete slab. 1:34:39.535 --> 1:34:42.735 Okay, all right, well then that's hopefully that's not years old. 1:34:43.215 --> 1:34:49.295 Yep, it's fifteen years old sort of thing. So I'm 1:34:49.335 --> 1:34:51.295 not sure what what I can do about it, you know, 1:34:51.375 --> 1:34:53.335 like with all these when you walk around, you know 1:34:53.495 --> 1:34:55.295 and hear a sort of clicking noise on quite a 1:34:55.375 --> 1:34:58.455 few of the tiles around the on the floor, is it? 1:34:59.575 --> 1:35:02.175 I know, you can get a flexible ceiling to put 1:35:02.215 --> 1:35:03.415 it down or a hard one. 1:35:03.975 --> 1:35:08.575 You wouldn't well, I mean, look again potentially and maybe 1:35:08.615 --> 1:35:10.415 there's been a bit of moisture that's got through the 1:35:10.535 --> 1:35:13.495 tiles and so on, and what you're starting to see 1:35:13.615 --> 1:35:15.535 is the tiles reaching the end of their sort of 1:35:15.575 --> 1:35:19.415 workable life that they're starting to delaminate. The adhesive is 1:35:19.495 --> 1:35:22.975 coming off, and really the solution, thankfully you've got a 1:35:23.015 --> 1:35:25.775 concrete slab. If you needed to, you get in there, 1:35:26.615 --> 1:35:30.255 chisel off all of the old tiles completely, maybe waterproof 1:35:30.335 --> 1:35:32.815 the slab a little bit more, use the right adhesive, 1:35:32.895 --> 1:35:35.055 so the right system all the way from bear concrete 1:35:35.135 --> 1:35:38.255 up and then replace all of the tiles. But that's 1:35:38.295 --> 1:35:42.735 a much bigger job than just you know, one or two. Yeah, 1:35:42.735 --> 1:35:48.055 it's yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Maybe instead of 1:35:48.375 --> 1:35:51.055 like you know, as trades people were often involved in 1:35:51.295 --> 1:35:54.295 working in other people's trades, right, But I wonder whether 1:35:54.335 --> 1:35:57.295 it might be worthwhile getting an experienced tiler. So if 1:35:57.335 --> 1:35:59.335 you go somewhere like tile Space, go down to the 1:35:59.415 --> 1:36:01.255 back to the trade depot and go look, I need 1:36:01.335 --> 1:36:03.935 someone in the local area to come and just do 1:36:04.015 --> 1:36:05.975 an assessment. They might come and just see whether it's 1:36:06.055 --> 1:36:08.975 drum me or whatever and give you some advice. Maybe 1:36:09.015 --> 1:36:11.695 it's repairable, maybe it's not. But I think talking to 1:36:11.775 --> 1:36:14.655 a professional tiler is probably not a bad option at 1:36:14.695 --> 1:36:15.095 the stage. 1:36:16.375 --> 1:36:18.015 Yeah, that's that's a good idea. 1:36:18.535 --> 1:36:20.375 Good luck with that. All the very best to you, 1:36:20.575 --> 1:36:23.215 Take care and don it very quickly. Good morning to you. 1:36:24.375 --> 1:36:27.455 Good morning. I have I'm an o rental property. I've 1:36:27.495 --> 1:36:31.055 only been here for nearly three months, and I've noticed 1:36:31.815 --> 1:36:34.695 that some of the floors, particularly where heavy things, are 1:36:35.015 --> 1:36:37.615 starting to sort of slop. Should I be worried about it? 1:36:38.575 --> 1:36:41.775 Well, your landlord should because it's your landlord's. 1:36:41.255 --> 1:36:43.095 Asset, So yeah, I know. 1:36:43.255 --> 1:36:46.015 But should I be pushing like I've been told? If 1:36:46.015 --> 1:36:46.935 I'm not dripping over. 1:36:46.775 --> 1:36:51.295 It, it's not a problem, okay, right, okay. 1:36:51.455 --> 1:36:54.095 Yeah, So we're like in the spare room where there's 1:36:54.095 --> 1:36:57.655 a heavy dressing table in the bed it's and the kitchen. 1:36:57.775 --> 1:36:59.375 It was fine when I came in, but now that 1:36:59.415 --> 1:37:01.335 I've put things in the cupboard and used the dishwasher 1:37:01.655 --> 1:37:02.775 right where the fridge is. 1:37:03.295 --> 1:37:05.855 Yeah, presume it's a timber floor and it's elevated. 1:37:05.975 --> 1:37:06.215 I'm not. 1:37:07.335 --> 1:37:09.815 It's got lemmet over it, But I don't know what's underneath. 1:37:10.135 --> 1:37:12.215 Right, if you walk around the outside of the house, though, 1:37:12.215 --> 1:37:13.895 a floor level up a little bit or is it 1:37:13.975 --> 1:37:17.255 quite the ground, it's up a bit, it's up it Okay, 1:37:17.335 --> 1:37:20.935 So let's assume that it's a timber floor. You know, 1:37:21.015 --> 1:37:24.015 I'm sure within your circle of frenzy might be a 1:37:24.375 --> 1:37:27.895 carpenter or a builder who might just come and look underneath. 1:37:28.215 --> 1:37:31.295 Possibly there's some sbsidence in the building, in which case, 1:37:32.815 --> 1:37:35.455 you know, you could say to the landlord, look, I 1:37:35.575 --> 1:37:38.095 think and it's in your own interests to come and 1:37:38.215 --> 1:37:40.575 have a lock. Maybe the landlord doesn't care. The other 1:37:40.695 --> 1:37:42.655 thing that can happen is, you know, if it's a 1:37:42.695 --> 1:37:45.855 building of it's in vintage, the particle board might be 1:37:46.015 --> 1:37:48.735 starting to sort of decay a little bit, in which 1:37:48.815 --> 1:37:51.255 case I've seen that where let's say you put a 1:37:51.295 --> 1:37:54.855 heavy weight in the middle, in the between the span 1:37:54.975 --> 1:37:57.135 of the joist right, so the particle board might span 1:37:57.215 --> 1:38:00.775 six hundred You put the edge of a dresser, for example, 1:38:00.935 --> 1:38:03.295 the feet of addresser in the middle of that, and 1:38:03.455 --> 1:38:05.895 it can over time cause that to sag if it's 1:38:05.935 --> 1:38:08.095 old particle board, So there might be a little bit 1:38:08.135 --> 1:38:11.695 of that, or there's just like I say general subsidence, but. 1:38:12.415 --> 1:38:14.575 Think it's the nineteen fifties or nineteen sixty. 1:38:15.135 --> 1:38:19.335 You know, it is incredibly rare for buildings to actually collapse. 1:38:19.375 --> 1:38:21.015 I know we're worried about it all the time, but 1:38:21.135 --> 1:38:24.295 it's incredibly rare. So if you're thinking, gosh, is this 1:38:24.815 --> 1:38:27.255 slope going to accelerate to the point where it's going 1:38:27.335 --> 1:38:31.055 to collapse, I would be unbelievably surprised if that was 1:38:31.135 --> 1:38:34.535 the case. Is it annoying? Yeah, maybe it is. You know, 1:38:34.615 --> 1:38:36.495 if you feel that it's unsafe, then go back to 1:38:36.575 --> 1:38:39.175 the landlord. Otherwise I guess you've done what you need 1:38:39.255 --> 1:38:41.295 to do as a responsible tenant. Hey, I'd like to 1:38:41.375 --> 1:38:43.975 draw this to your attention. If the landlord doesn't care 1:38:44.015 --> 1:38:47.815 about their asset, well, unfortunately that's their problem. Yeah, yeah, 1:38:48.415 --> 1:38:52.255 all the very best to take care there. You can 1:38:52.335 --> 1:38:54.495 do the old marble track, you know, to determine how 1:38:54.575 --> 1:38:56.575 much slope there is on a floor. You figure out 1:38:56.615 --> 1:38:58.415 where you think the high point is, but the marble 1:38:58.455 --> 1:39:00.775 down and see where it rolls. That'll soon tell you 1:39:00.895 --> 1:39:03.935 what the slope's like. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1:39:04.175 --> 1:39:07.415 Let us get into the that a terrible pun. Let 1:39:07.495 --> 1:39:09.855 us if we're talking about gardening, let us get into 1:39:09.935 --> 1:39:12.775 the garden with arid cline pass in just a moment 1:39:13.135 --> 1:39:15.855 your news talk ze b and hey, look it is 1:39:16.055 --> 1:39:20.255 weed season. So are weeds invading your space? Looking for 1:39:20.375 --> 1:39:25.135 a glypha sate free weed killer that's effective, Yates introduces 1:39:25.255 --> 1:39:29.975 New Zealand's first glypha sate free systemic weed killer. 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He put a 1:40:56.215 --> 1:40:57.135 hole in the water pole. 1:40:58.855 --> 1:40:59.055 Yep. 1:40:59.695 --> 1:41:03.935 But you know, like now it's it's cracked again and 1:41:04.215 --> 1:41:06.895 the tile in front of it is actually as well, 1:41:07.695 --> 1:41:10.295 and we're going to walk around on the tile floor. 1:41:10.695 --> 1:41:13.175 There's a sort of clicking noise when I stand on 1:41:13.535 --> 1:41:17.055 quite a few of the tiles which they're not fixed down, 1:41:17.175 --> 1:41:19.215 so I'm a bit worried about it. 1:41:21.415 --> 1:41:28.615 The challenge is that if, for example, the substrate is 1:41:28.735 --> 1:41:31.775 not well fixed down or possibly and that could be 1:41:32.695 --> 1:41:34.775 like if you look at the building code today, if 1:41:34.815 --> 1:41:37.095 we're going to do tiles in a bathroom, we need 1:41:37.175 --> 1:41:39.335 to set our choice out at four hundred centers and 1:41:39.495 --> 1:41:41.975 we need to nog at four hundred centers right, So 1:41:42.055 --> 1:41:44.695 it's a massive amount of timber. Then we put down 1:41:44.855 --> 1:41:47.215 a substrate, which might be a treated ply, it might 1:41:47.255 --> 1:41:49.175 be a five or cement sheet, et cetera, et cetera, 1:41:49.535 --> 1:41:52.135 and then eventually we put our tiles on it. Now, 1:41:52.935 --> 1:41:55.735 what I'm thinking is that in your situation, an existing 1:41:55.815 --> 1:41:59.615 building that's had tiles applied down over the floor Joyce 1:41:59.735 --> 1:42:03.415 might be at six hundred centers nogging at two meter centers. 1:42:03.735 --> 1:42:07.815 There's a certain amount of flexibility in there, which in 1:42:07.895 --> 1:42:10.975 some case if you choose the right adhesive, a flexible 1:42:11.015 --> 1:42:13.895 one rather than a rigid one, it'll take up a 1:42:13.935 --> 1:42:15.895 little bit of that and the tiles will be okay. 1:42:16.375 --> 1:42:19.295 So it might be a problem from when the tiles 1:42:19.335 --> 1:42:24.535 were installed that's causing the issue today, and it's been 1:42:24.615 --> 1:42:26.855 exacerbated by the fact that you've had to cut into 1:42:26.935 --> 1:42:30.255 tiles and loading it up with a dishwasher and so on. 1:42:30.775 --> 1:42:33.655 So it could be a slightly bigger problem than just 1:42:33.735 --> 1:42:35.895 one or two tiles would be my concern. 1:42:36.015 --> 1:42:40.735 Yes, the thing is a concrete floor in the nise. 1:42:41.055 --> 1:42:42.335 Well, it is on a concrete slab. 1:42:43.255 --> 1:42:45.255 There's a concrete slab, okay, all. 1:42:45.215 --> 1:42:47.895 Right, Well, then hopefully that's not moving years old. 1:42:48.415 --> 1:42:54.455 Yep, it's fifteen years old sort of thing. So I'm 1:42:54.495 --> 1:42:56.975 not sure what what I can do about it with 1:42:57.095 --> 1:42:58.895 all these When you walk around, you know, and hear 1:42:58.935 --> 1:43:00.735 a sort of clicking noise on quite a few of 1:43:00.775 --> 1:43:04.975 the tiles around the on the floor that I know 1:43:05.135 --> 1:43:07.855 you can get a flexible it put it down, or 1:43:07.895 --> 1:43:08.575 a hard one. 1:43:09.135 --> 1:43:13.775 You wouldn't well, I mean, look again potentially and maybe 1:43:13.815 --> 1:43:15.615 there's been a bit of moisture that's got through the 1:43:15.695 --> 1:43:18.695 tiles and so on, and what you're starting to see 1:43:18.775 --> 1:43:20.695 is the tiles reaching the end of their sort of 1:43:20.735 --> 1:43:24.575 workable life that they're starting to delaminate. The adhesive is 1:43:24.655 --> 1:43:28.135 coming off, and really the solution, thankfully, you've got a 1:43:28.175 --> 1:43:30.935 concrete slab. If you needed to, you get in there, 1:43:31.815 --> 1:43:35.415 chisel off all of the old tiles completely, maybe waterproof 1:43:35.495 --> 1:43:38.015 the slab a little bit more, use the right adhesive, 1:43:38.095 --> 1:43:40.415 so the right system all the way from bear concrete up, 1:43:41.335 --> 1:43:43.495 and then replace all of the tiles. But that's a 1:43:43.575 --> 1:43:47.895 much bigger job than just you know, one or two. Yeah, 1:43:47.935 --> 1:43:53.175 it's a yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Maybe instead 1:43:53.175 --> 1:43:56.135 of like you know, as trades people were often involved 1:43:56.175 --> 1:43:59.215 in working in other people's trades, right, But I wonder 1:43:59.255 --> 1:44:02.295 whether it might be worthwhile getting an experienced tiler. So 1:44:02.335 --> 1:44:04.415 if you go somewhere like tile Space, go down to 1:44:04.495 --> 1:44:06.135 the back to the trade depot and go, look, I 1:44:06.375 --> 1:44:08.975 need someone in the local area to come and just 1:44:09.055 --> 1:44:11.015 do an assessment. They might come and just see whether 1:44:11.055 --> 1:44:14.135 it's drummy or whatever and give you some advice. Maybe 1:44:14.215 --> 1:44:16.895 it's repairable, maybe it's not. But I think talking to 1:44:16.975 --> 1:44:19.815 a professional tyler is probably not a bad option at 1:44:19.855 --> 1:44:20.255 the stage. 1:44:21.575 --> 1:44:23.175 Yeah, that's that's a good idea. 1:44:23.695 --> 1:44:25.535 Good luck with that. All the very best to you, 1:44:25.735 --> 1:44:28.375 Take care and don it very quickly. Good morning to you. 1:44:29.535 --> 1:44:32.615 Good morning. I have I'm an o rental property. I've 1:44:32.655 --> 1:44:36.215 only been here for nearly three months, and I've noticed 1:44:36.975 --> 1:44:39.855 that some of the floors, particularly where heavy things, are 1:44:40.255 --> 1:44:42.775 putting the sort of slop. Should I be worried about it? 1:44:43.735 --> 1:44:47.095 Well, your landlord should because it's your landlord's asset. 1:44:46.935 --> 1:44:50.415 So yeah, I know. But should I be pushing like 1:44:50.495 --> 1:44:52.175 I've been told? If I'm not dripping over it, it's 1:44:52.215 --> 1:44:58.055 not a problem, okay, right, okay, Yeah, So it's we're 1:44:58.135 --> 1:44:59.935 like in the spare room where there's a heavy dressing 1:45:00.015 --> 1:45:03.215 table and the bed. It's in the kitchen. It was 1:45:03.295 --> 1:45:04.855 fine when I came in, but now that I've put 1:45:04.895 --> 1:45:07.135 things in the cupboard and used the dish right. 1:45:07.135 --> 1:45:07.935 Where the fridge is. 1:45:08.455 --> 1:45:11.055 Yeah, presume it's a timber floor and it's elevated. 1:45:11.175 --> 1:45:14.175 I'm not it's got lemit over it, but I don't 1:45:14.215 --> 1:45:14.975 know what's underneath. 1:45:15.295 --> 1:45:17.375 Right, if you walk around the outside of the house, though, 1:45:17.415 --> 1:45:19.055 a floor level up a little bit or is it 1:45:19.135 --> 1:45:22.415 quite the ground, it's up a bit, it's up it. Okay, 1:45:22.495 --> 1:45:26.095 So let's assume that it's a timber floor. You know, 1:45:26.215 --> 1:45:29.215 I'm sure within your circle of frenzy might be a 1:45:29.535 --> 1:45:33.055 carpenter or a builder who might just come and look underneath. 1:45:33.375 --> 1:45:36.495 Possibly there's some subsidence in the building, in which case, 1:45:37.975 --> 1:45:40.655 you know, you could say to the landlord, look, I 1:45:40.735 --> 1:45:43.255 think and it's in your own interests to come and 1:45:43.375 --> 1:45:45.775 have a lock. Maybe the landlord doesn't care. The other 1:45:45.855 --> 1:45:47.815 thing that can happen is, you know, if it's a 1:45:47.855 --> 1:45:51.015 building of it's in vintage, the particle board might be 1:45:51.175 --> 1:45:53.895 starting to sort of decay a little bit, in which 1:45:53.975 --> 1:45:56.415 case I've seen that where let's say you put a 1:45:56.495 --> 1:46:00.015 heavy weight in the middle in the between the span 1:46:00.135 --> 1:46:02.295 of the joist right so the particle board might span 1:46:02.415 --> 1:46:05.975 six hundred. You put the edge of a dresser, for example, 1:46:06.055 --> 1:46:08.455 the heat of addresser in the middle of that, and 1:46:08.615 --> 1:46:11.055 it can over time cause that to sag if it's 1:46:11.135 --> 1:46:13.255 older particle board. So there might be a little bit 1:46:13.295 --> 1:46:16.855 of that, or there's just like I say, general subsidence, but. 1:46:17.415 --> 1:46:20.135 I think it's the nineteen fifties or nineteen sixties place. 1:46:20.295 --> 1:46:24.495 You know, it is incredibly rare for buildings to actually collapse. 1:46:24.535 --> 1:46:26.215 I know we're worried about it all the time, but 1:46:26.295 --> 1:46:29.455 it's incredibly rare. So if you're thinking, gosh, is this 1:46:29.975 --> 1:46:32.415 slope going to accelerate to the point where it's going 1:46:32.495 --> 1:46:36.215 to collapse, I would be unbelievably surprised if that was 1:46:36.295 --> 1:46:39.695 the case. Is it annoying? Yeah, maybe it is. You know, 1:46:39.815 --> 1:46:41.655 if you feel that it's unsafe, then go back to 1:46:41.735 --> 1:46:44.375 the landlord. Otherwise I guess you've done what you need 1:46:44.415 --> 1:46:46.455 to do as a responsible tenant. Hey, I'd like to 1:46:46.535 --> 1:46:49.175 draw this to your attention. If the landlord doesn't care 1:46:49.175 --> 1:46:52.975 about their asset, well, unfortunately that's their problem. Yeah, yeah, 1:46:54.295 --> 1:46:57.255 all the very best to take care by there. You 1:46:57.335 --> 1:46:59.535 can do the old marble track, you know, to determine 1:46:59.575 --> 1:47:01.615 how much slope there is on a floor. You figure 1:47:01.615 --> 1:47:03.215 out where you think the high point is. Put the 1:47:03.255 --> 1:47:05.895 marble down and see where it rolls. That'll soon tell 1:47:05.895 --> 1:47:09.095 you what's slopes like, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. 1:47:09.375 --> 1:47:12.295 Let us get into the is that a terrible pun 1:47:12.455 --> 1:47:14.775 let us? If we're talking about gardening, let us get 1:47:14.815 --> 1:47:17.375 into the garden with a rid climb pass in just 1:47:17.495 --> 1:47:18.895 a money right red climb pass. 1:47:18.935 --> 1:47:21.855 Good morning, sir, A very good morning to you, pierrero 1:47:22.055 --> 1:47:22.815 Are you all good? 1:47:23.095 --> 1:47:26.415 Yeah, very well, thank you, now right, But we've got 1:47:26.455 --> 1:47:30.655 a whole boarder of calls. But artillery fungus, shotgun fungus, 1:47:30.775 --> 1:47:31.135 tell me. 1:47:32.295 --> 1:47:37.455 It's it is actually a fungus that lives that originates 1:47:37.535 --> 1:47:41.215 from mulch in the garden, if you like. So, if 1:47:41.255 --> 1:47:44.375 you've got a lot of mulch there, there's a fungus 1:47:44.535 --> 1:47:47.655 if you like, that wants to spread its spores literally 1:47:48.095 --> 1:47:51.895 by shooting it into the quite a long way, usually 1:47:52.015 --> 1:47:57.935 to something with a light colored surface. It has deliberately, yes, 1:47:58.055 --> 1:48:01.175 because that's probably the best way for the fungal spores 1:48:01.215 --> 1:48:06.535 to actually germinate. Okay, so so it knows where your 1:48:06.615 --> 1:48:07.495 carriers back. 1:48:07.615 --> 1:48:10.415 Wow, I love it. 1:48:10.735 --> 1:48:12.415 I've ever got my car before too. 1:48:12.935 --> 1:48:15.375 And and so that's. 1:48:14.975 --> 1:48:17.135 Basically how it works. So it's it's it's in a 1:48:17.215 --> 1:48:20.055 fungus that occurs in New Zealand, and it hasn't it 1:48:20.175 --> 1:48:24.575 hasn't a wonderful name. Actually it's sphere o bolus stellatus, 1:48:24.695 --> 1:48:28.135 which means it's it's aiming at things, you know, like 1:48:28.375 --> 1:48:29.615 literally like an artillery. 1:48:30.815 --> 1:48:31.415 What can you do? 1:48:31.735 --> 1:48:34.575 Well? The first thing is, if you have this stuff 1:48:34.695 --> 1:48:38.375 in your in your mulch, try using pine mulch. I 1:48:38.895 --> 1:48:41.575 understand that pine mulch is not that good for that 1:48:41.695 --> 1:48:46.335 particular fungus. That's number one. Number two, try wet and forget. 1:48:46.455 --> 1:48:48.335 It's really hard to get rid of by the way, 1:48:48.415 --> 1:48:50.375 try wet and forget. You never know if that's going 1:48:50.455 --> 1:48:54.935 to work that out. Otherwise you use some nice warm 1:48:55.175 --> 1:48:59.815 look warm water or warm water. Maybe what can you 1:48:59.895 --> 1:49:04.575 put into it? Oh gosh, maybe some soap and things 1:49:04.695 --> 1:49:08.215 like that. But it's pretty hard to get out of 1:49:08.295 --> 1:49:10.895 there actually, to be quite honest, it's really hard. 1:49:12.175 --> 1:49:13.055 That was what you know. 1:49:13.255 --> 1:49:17.575 The original question was around sort of the durability, right, 1:49:17.655 --> 1:49:21.135 the persistence of this growth, and that in some cases 1:49:21.215 --> 1:49:23.855 someone had had it on weatherboards and then trying to 1:49:23.895 --> 1:49:25.935 get it off with the boards. Now, the other comment 1:49:26.055 --> 1:49:27.815 just very quickly. I don't want to take too much 1:49:27.855 --> 1:49:31.375 of your time, but it was about a caller said, 1:49:31.495 --> 1:49:35.735 it's moths that were leaving like a shell casing on 1:49:35.895 --> 1:49:38.855 the exterior of the weatherboard that was also incredibly difficult 1:49:38.855 --> 1:49:39.295 to get off. 1:49:40.175 --> 1:49:43.575 Oh, don't think so. I know they can lay their 1:49:43.615 --> 1:49:47.975 eggs on surfaces like that, and they but especially once 1:49:48.055 --> 1:49:51.335 they hatch, they will be kay. I've also heard of 1:49:51.415 --> 1:49:54.815 spiderwebe's and I call them websites now, kids love that 1:49:54.975 --> 1:49:59.735 I call them anyway, those websites. But the moths egg 1:49:59.935 --> 1:50:03.615 cases as well. Yes, it's you need to be very careful, 1:50:03.735 --> 1:50:06.775 you know. With paint, you've got to you can't craper 1:50:06.895 --> 1:50:09.335 too much because you can damage you know what I mean. Yeah, 1:50:09.495 --> 1:50:13.175 but it's stuff like that. It'll come off, and so 1:50:13.415 --> 1:50:16.855 will that artillery fungus, but it can take quite a. 1:50:16.855 --> 1:50:19.575 Long time, right, and a lot of elbow grease. 1:50:19.895 --> 1:50:22.935 But I think it's so cool of nature of these things. 1:50:23.055 --> 1:50:26.775 Yes, it's so exciting. Well, I don't want it, but 1:50:27.135 --> 1:50:29.335 the fact that it's out there is awesome. Right, Let's 1:50:29.415 --> 1:50:31.535 rip into a few calls. Errol, A very good. 1:50:31.415 --> 1:50:35.695 Morning, Good morning to you, Rude. I've got a problem 1:50:35.815 --> 1:50:40.495 with a plum tree. It's about three years old. Last 1:50:40.655 --> 1:50:45.015 year we only got one plumb off it. I've sprayed 1:50:45.055 --> 1:50:51.055 it during winter with two lots of copper and now 1:50:52.255 --> 1:50:56.695 we've got plums on there, but some of them look 1:50:56.815 --> 1:50:58.655 like they've got a punch out. They've gone flat. 1:50:59.735 --> 1:51:01.535 Ah, yes, I know what you mean. 1:51:01.655 --> 1:51:07.175 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh that is bladder plum 1:51:07.895 --> 1:51:11.895 and I think you should have had some if you like, 1:51:12.095 --> 1:51:16.175 some fungal material on there. Yes, actually bladder plum. If 1:51:16.175 --> 1:51:17.975 you want to google it, you can do that yourself. 1:51:19.735 --> 1:51:23.375 It's it's I think you need some fungicide before there's 1:51:23.615 --> 1:51:27.255 Those plums are starting to ripen, and I think some 1:51:27.495 --> 1:51:30.215 of that could from memory. It might have something to 1:51:30.295 --> 1:51:33.415 do with spraying it in autumn time as well. I'll 1:51:33.495 --> 1:51:35.455 have to look that up to be quite honest, Errol, 1:51:35.495 --> 1:51:38.215 I haven't seen it for a while, and it's famous 1:51:38.335 --> 1:51:41.375 on certain plum species. The fact that you have few 1:51:41.535 --> 1:51:44.215 plums could something could be something to do with the 1:51:44.295 --> 1:51:45.775 fact that you might need a pollinator. 1:51:47.655 --> 1:51:51.335 Does that makes sense, Yeah, yeah, So have have another. 1:51:51.215 --> 1:51:55.495 Have another plump tree nearby that will that will so 1:51:55.615 --> 1:51:57.615 you get to cross pollination and that gives you a 1:51:57.655 --> 1:51:59.815 lot more fruit this year. 1:51:59.895 --> 1:52:03.135 There are there are quite a few other plums there, 1:52:03.215 --> 1:52:07.135 but there there are the flat one as well. 1:52:07.255 --> 1:52:08.975 So yeah, there later. 1:52:09.295 --> 1:52:11.615 Okay, in that case, it might not be that problem, 1:52:12.095 --> 1:52:16.095 but bladder bloom certainly is. And it's it's a it's 1:52:16.135 --> 1:52:18.335 a it's a lovely it's a strange look. 1:52:18.255 --> 1:52:18.495 Isn't it. 1:52:19.615 --> 1:52:19.815 Yes? 1:52:20.015 --> 1:52:25.775 Yeah, Will it go away or will it just continue? 1:52:25.935 --> 1:52:28.175 Or is it doing any damage to the tree? 1:52:28.415 --> 1:52:31.295 Or let me have a look in the head break 1:52:31.335 --> 1:52:33.175 to see what I can do with leader plum for you, 1:52:33.615 --> 1:52:36.255 and I'll let you know as soon as I find out. 1:52:36.335 --> 1:52:37.575 I'll just quickly google that. 1:52:38.655 --> 1:52:40.655 Okay, thank you very much, No worries. 1:52:41.895 --> 1:52:44.415 Take one quick call from UK good morning to UK. 1:52:45.255 --> 1:52:50.295 Good morning, gentlemen. I have a bee well kind of problem. 1:52:50.655 --> 1:52:54.535 I've got bumblebees coming into my nice flairy gun. But 1:52:54.815 --> 1:52:58.135 now I've noticed they come have come to the little 1:52:58.335 --> 1:53:01.535 vent in the Omoru stone at the base where there's 1:53:01.655 --> 1:53:05.535 like a little earth wire and the gap, and they're 1:53:05.735 --> 1:53:09.015 just coming in busifusly, you know, I do all the bees, 1:53:09.095 --> 1:53:12.655 but should I be doing something about it or can 1:53:12.775 --> 1:53:13.815 we just enjoy them. 1:53:15.175 --> 1:53:18.535 Last week I've been working at the school in Tecpo 1:53:19.455 --> 1:53:23.615 where we are going to put bee bumblebee nest boxes 1:53:23.695 --> 1:53:27.335 up and also the right plants to get bumblebees back 1:53:27.375 --> 1:53:30.735 into Tachapo. And there's four species in New Zealand and 1:53:30.815 --> 1:53:33.135 they want to do something about a really rare species that, 1:53:33.295 --> 1:53:33.895 by the way, is no. 1:53:33.935 --> 1:53:35.015 Extinct in the UK. 1:53:36.415 --> 1:53:41.695 But bumblebees. The nests themselves in your wall usually are 1:53:41.815 --> 1:53:44.455 of no concern to your house or to the bees 1:53:44.535 --> 1:53:47.775 or anything else, and it might be just a wonderful 1:53:47.815 --> 1:53:50.895 place for them to live and pollinate your all your 1:53:50.975 --> 1:53:53.415 plants in the garden. I don't think they are of 1:53:53.735 --> 1:53:55.415 any concern for you whatsoever. 1:53:56.215 --> 1:53:58.415 Oh, thank you very much, we'll enjoy them. 1:53:58.535 --> 1:54:02.655 Thank you, Bye bye all UK. 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