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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: wolf Camp from News Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: The house is a hole even when it's dark, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overgrown in the yard, even when

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Speaker 2: a dog.

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Speaker 1: Is too old to bar, and.

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Speaker 2: When you're sitting at the table trying not to start

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Speaker 2: scissor home, even when we are band gone, even when

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Speaker 2: you're there alone. A house is a hole, even when

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Speaker 2: those goes, even when you got around from the world.

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Speaker 2: You love your moves, scream broken plans, being in funder locals,

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Speaker 2: vestball when they're gone, leaving the cars, even when weilravan long,

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Speaker 2: even when you're there.

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Speaker 3: Alone, And a very good morning to you. It is

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Speaker 3: a beautiful Sunday morning. Actually, it was a gorgeous sunrise

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Speaker 3: as I headed across the Harbor Bridge this morning on

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Speaker 3: the sun rising through the Putakaoa trees alongside the beach

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Speaker 3: not far from where we live. Stunning, stunning day. So

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Speaker 3: hopefully it's going to be a beautiful day. I know

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Speaker 3: that it has been terrible, terrible weather in parts of

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Speaker 3: the South Island and reports of severe damage to the

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Speaker 3: in the South Island as well, so a day of

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Speaker 3: some contrast. Anyway, good morning, welcome along to the show.

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Speaker 3: My name's Pete wolf Camp, the resident Builder, and this

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Speaker 3: is the Resident Builder on Sunday, an opportunity to talk

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Speaker 3: all things building and construction. And when you start to

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Speaker 3: look at building and construction, you recognize, I guess the

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Speaker 3: sheer scale and scope of it in terms of how

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Speaker 3: it intersects with our own lives, that there was a

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Speaker 3: job that I suddenly something changed at our place yesterday.

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Speaker 3: There's a gap in the fence, right, I've got to

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Speaker 3: fix that. That goes on to another list of things

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Speaker 3: that I've got to do. So that's one part of

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Speaker 3: it I was at. Actually I had the opportunity and

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Speaker 3: very kindly invited along to the Apprentice of the Year.

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Speaker 3: This is the Carpentry Apprentice of the Year, sponsored by

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Speaker 3: Master Builders, sponsored by Carts and undoubtedly a few others,

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Speaker 3: and I went out and had to look at the

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Speaker 3: practical part of it. This is where the top nine

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Speaker 3: apprentices from around the country who have won their regional

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Speaker 3: Friday night at Agala in the city, a formal dinner

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Speaker 3: were awarded or the Apprentice of the Year was awarded,

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Speaker 3: and you know, so apprenticeships, training, that's all part of

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Speaker 3: the construction sector. And then actually I was just tuning

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Speaker 3: looked at this headline why a builder called the cops

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Speaker 3: so maybe disputes and debate and discussion around how good

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Speaker 3: the work is. That's all part of construction as well.

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Speaker 3: So at intersects. I think buildings intersects without our lives

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Speaker 3: all of the time. So if you've got a question

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Speaker 3: a question about regulations, which is a big part of

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Speaker 3: products and items constantly as well, then this is the

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Speaker 3: show for you. Looking forward to your calls, your conversation

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Speaker 3: this morning here at Newstalk SEB. A little bit later on,

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Speaker 3: and in fact, I bumped into Jay, our painting expert

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Speaker 3: the practical part of the Apprentice of the Year was

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Speaker 3: happening at the same time as the trade show Constructed

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Speaker 3: Razine painting experts. If you've ever wondered what they look like.

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Speaker 3: around seven twenty five. If you've got a painting question

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Speaker 3: As always we jump into the garden with roud Climb,

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Speaker 3: That'll be me for the rest of it. Well, for

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Speaker 3: eleven till three. Great food, can I say as well?

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Speaker 3: And the White Elephant Boy they collect some great stuff

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Speaker 3: If you're looking for something to do and you can

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Speaker 3: let's get into it. What's on your mind? What either

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Speaker 3: If you've got a question, i'd really I'll give it

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Speaker 3: the number to call. Hazel A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 4: Good morning. I'm ashamed to say no maintenance has been

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Speaker 4: that's made to look like timber with grain in it. Now,

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Speaker 4: my son in law is coming up to replace a

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Speaker 4: rotten Hopes board and he has to lift the where

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Speaker 4: does it. Now, if he was to use water blasting,

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Speaker 3: Let's just go back a step. So the weatherboard product

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, if it is a fiber cement sheet, then yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can use a water blaster. But really, what before

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Speaker 3: paint prep you should be doing is essentially using proprietary

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Speaker 3: And the condition of the The other thing is you

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Speaker 3: So that's another reason not to apply too much force

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Speaker 3: when you're cleaning or prepping them, because in some cases

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Speaker 4: Yes, there's mold growing on.

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Speaker 3: Well again if you use something like well, we'll be

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Speaker 3: So apply that agitate lightly, let it sit there for

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Speaker 3: I know we're straying into painting territory here a primer

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Speaker 4: Is the houses underneath account wood tree. The tree has

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Speaker 4: good conditions and just needs painting. But where the tree

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Speaker 4: has ever hung the house, it's called when we water

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Speaker 4: thirty years ago. The previous zone is that had it

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Speaker 4: we came. But the drive is between the tree and

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Speaker 3: I think too, Hazel, you know, I mean, I'm obviously

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Speaker 3: But I think also with some types of houses, and

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Speaker 3: but it's amazing sometimes just how robust they are and

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Speaker 3: how resilient they are. And something like the fiber cment sheet,

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Speaker 3: more durable over time with little to no maintenance on

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Speaker 3: sense that there's probably very little permanent damage done. But

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Speaker 3: and I mean, look, I had some eyes that I

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Speaker 3: It's just that one happened to rot out other barge

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Speaker 4: Old to do it. I used to do maintenance. We

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Speaker 4: old now to I have heard to go I'm not Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Want to be up a ladder. No, look, Hazel, it's

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Speaker 3: great that someone's coming to help you. It's your family

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Speaker 3: absolutely fine. Just easy on the water blasting and it'll

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Speaker 3: be all good. Lovely to talk with you, Hazel, take

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Speaker 3: a half minutes after six. We've got a couple of

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Speaker 3: so if you've got a question then call now, oh

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can text as

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Speaker 3: well any questions. Remember our painting expert j will be

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Speaker 3: along at around seven twenty five seven thirty this morning.

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Speaker 3: So if you've got any specific painting questions or you've

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Speaker 3: got some general building questions, text them through nine to

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Speaker 3: ninety two. If you'd like to email me, particularly with

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Speaker 3: things like pictures and so on, then it's Pete atnewstok

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Speaker 3: SB dot co dot n said quick text before we

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Speaker 3: go to the bait break building a deck? Are we

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Speaker 3: better off using random links or finger jointed quila? You've

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Speaker 3: caught me on the hot there alistair, I didn't realize

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Speaker 3: that you could buy finger jointed queller. I guess I

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Speaker 3: don't see why you shouldn't use it. I suppose the

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Speaker 3: advantages that it would come in a regular length, like

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Speaker 3: they'll all be four point eight or five point four

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Speaker 3: meters long, which case, if that's an advantage, that's great.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anyone really ever looks at

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Speaker 3: a deck and goes, oh, gosh, there's a join there.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that unfortunate. If they're neatly detailed, then it's great.

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Speaker 3: Although I tell you what, he's a little tip for you.

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Speaker 3: Make sure that if you do end up with random

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Look, we do regular maintenance on the house every

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Speaker 7: Would they lay the egg into the wood?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. He just said that they just to

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Speaker 3: No, it's quite intriguing. So if you stood back, let's say,

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Speaker 3: But if you were to take a piece of sandpaper,

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Speaker 7: Well, that's what I want to know, surely.

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Speaker 3: I mean that, you know, I admire the industrious nature

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Speaker 3: I just wonder whether it's on the surface, and maybe

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Speaker 3: But sending it, I think maybe it is that he

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Speaker 3: maybe treat the exterior with an insecticide that stops them.

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Speaker 3: You know, they'll they'll go somewhere else rather than try

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Speaker 7: Right twelve years old.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, No, it's not going to be boring. It's

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Speaker 3: I just wonder whether you'll need to use maybe even

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Speaker 7: Failing that, I'm really lucky.

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Speaker 8: It's just start, right.

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Speaker 7: It's about sustain of them that you can't get all.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, but it's just what I was interested in.

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Speaker 7: Is a beauty heard of it?

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Speaker 3: You haven't I haven't. I'll certainly run it past route

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Speaker 7: Well, I thought i'd bring you just in case I

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Speaker 3: I will make sure that we talk about it at

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Speaker 3: eight thirty as well. I appreciate nice for you to call.

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Speaker 3: You have a great day, take care. Then, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: then paint over the top and maybe do some treatment

434
00:24:38,935 --> 00:24:41,335
Speaker 3: to the exterior of the house that makes it an

435
00:24:41,455 --> 00:24:46,255
Speaker 3: inhospitable place for for moths. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten

436
00:24:46,375 --> 00:24:51,615
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call David, text Peter or

437
00:24:51,775 --> 00:24:55,015
Speaker 3: good morning Pete. How long do I need to leave

438
00:24:55,335 --> 00:24:57,695
Speaker 3: new concrete before coating it with a seala? And what

439
00:24:57,895 --> 00:25:01,735
Speaker 3: seala is best? Please David. A couple of extra questions

440
00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:04,215
Speaker 3: is when you say new concrete, is it a pathway,

441
00:25:04,815 --> 00:25:09,535
Speaker 3: is it a garden tay? Is it a driveway? Is

442
00:25:09,575 --> 00:25:12,375
Speaker 3: it a floor slab? Those sorts of things, because they'll

443
00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:16,015
Speaker 3: all have different types of sealers applied. Typically, if you

444
00:25:16,015 --> 00:25:18,295
Speaker 3: want to have a look for sealers, I get the

445
00:25:18,375 --> 00:25:21,775
Speaker 3: stuff that I use from a company called Premiere Group

446
00:25:22,735 --> 00:25:25,335
Speaker 3: and I order it online. I think they're based out

447
00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:29,295
Speaker 3: of Hamilton. They'll have a range of sealers and colors

448
00:25:29,335 --> 00:25:32,775
Speaker 3: as well. I have to say I did some myself

449
00:25:32,815 --> 00:25:35,335
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and I'm not happy with it.

450
00:25:36,415 --> 00:25:39,095
Speaker 3: It's one of those jobs where maybe it's more tricky

451
00:25:39,175 --> 00:25:41,455
Speaker 3: than you think. And I was back there looking at

452
00:25:41,495 --> 00:25:43,455
Speaker 3: it the other day and it's one of those little

453
00:25:43,575 --> 00:25:46,975
Speaker 3: niggles that you have where you go shivers. I can

454
00:25:47,055 --> 00:25:49,215
Speaker 3: see a couple of lines in it and it's not

455
00:25:49,455 --> 00:25:53,455
Speaker 3: quite as even the distribution. Maybe I didn't do the

456
00:25:53,495 --> 00:25:56,975
Speaker 3: acid wash correctly. Maybe I applied the sealer when it

457
00:25:57,095 --> 00:25:59,375
Speaker 3: was too hot and it dried off too quickly or

458
00:25:59,415 --> 00:26:02,535
Speaker 3: something like that. So yeah, depending on the area. But

459
00:26:02,615 --> 00:26:04,535
Speaker 3: have a look at the Premier Group website. They've got

460
00:26:04,615 --> 00:26:07,095
Speaker 3: some good information on sealers. You can also have a

461
00:26:07,135 --> 00:26:11,455
Speaker 3: look at new Lock dot co dot nz get new

462
00:26:11,495 --> 00:26:14,495
Speaker 3: Look rather get New Look website. He's got lots of

463
00:26:14,535 --> 00:26:17,975
Speaker 3: information about sealers and colors and so on for concrete

464
00:26:18,015 --> 00:26:21,015
Speaker 3: as well. Right, we can take sure, No, We'll talk

465
00:26:21,015 --> 00:26:23,295
Speaker 3: to Wendy in just a moment. Other quick text, Hey, Pete.

466
00:26:23,295 --> 00:26:26,175
Speaker 3: I've got a hardy plank and tumbled concrete blocks on

467
00:26:26,255 --> 00:26:28,495
Speaker 3: my house twelve years old. Should I brush it with

468
00:26:28,695 --> 00:26:31,215
Speaker 3: just water or use a cleaning product? I think the

469
00:26:31,295 --> 00:26:34,095
Speaker 3: advantage of using a cleaning product is that it's it's

470
00:26:34,135 --> 00:26:37,455
Speaker 3: obviously got an active ingredient that will deal in particular

471
00:26:38,695 --> 00:26:40,935
Speaker 3: with some of the organic material that builds up on

472
00:26:41,015 --> 00:26:43,295
Speaker 3: our houses, so the moss and molds and lichens and

473
00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:46,015
Speaker 3: those sorts of things. It'll save you a lot of

474
00:26:47,215 --> 00:26:50,135
Speaker 3: elbow grease to use a cleaner, and it will also

475
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:55,295
Speaker 3: treat the surface. So yeah, proprietary house washers are really

476
00:26:55,375 --> 00:26:57,415
Speaker 3: good to use. That's what I would do. Oh eight

477
00:26:57,535 --> 00:27:00,215
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call Wendy

478
00:27:00,375 --> 00:27:01,255
Speaker 3: A very good morning.

479
00:27:02,495 --> 00:27:05,495
Speaker 7: Ay, Yes, good morning. I was listening to your caller

480
00:27:05,655 --> 00:27:10,815
Speaker 7: talking about the tiny black spots house and we haven't

481
00:27:10,895 --> 00:27:15,615
Speaker 7: countered a similar problem. And it's actually a fungus and

482
00:27:16,255 --> 00:27:19,815
Speaker 7: it's got several names. It can be called shotgun fungus

483
00:27:20,415 --> 00:27:23,695
Speaker 7: or artillery fungus, and I think New Zealand has a

484
00:27:23,775 --> 00:27:28,815
Speaker 7: variety called birds near fungus. And it's a tiny fungus

485
00:27:29,135 --> 00:27:34,895
Speaker 7: that grows like a very small mushroom and when rain

486
00:27:34,975 --> 00:27:39,175
Speaker 7: drops land on it and it really it inverts itself

487
00:27:39,295 --> 00:27:43,415
Speaker 7: and time to win black sticky balls and they give

488
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:47,975
Speaker 7: as far as ten or twenty feet. It's not common

489
00:27:48,055 --> 00:27:52,055
Speaker 7: in New Zealand. And it took us several house washes

490
00:27:52,215 --> 00:27:54,855
Speaker 7: before the chap would come in and say, look, I've

491
00:27:54,935 --> 00:27:58,615
Speaker 7: washed your house down. But unfortunately there's these little things

492
00:27:58,735 --> 00:28:03,495
Speaker 7: like spiders marks or something I can't get off. And

493
00:28:03,695 --> 00:28:05,655
Speaker 7: finally when we got to the bottom of it, we

494
00:28:05,775 --> 00:28:10,615
Speaker 7: discovered with this shotgun fungus and it came onto our

495
00:28:10,735 --> 00:28:15,455
Speaker 7: property in the black wooden type chip.

496
00:28:15,415 --> 00:28:19,175
Speaker 3: With black wood that used for malch in the garden.

497
00:28:20,335 --> 00:28:23,735
Speaker 7: Yes, and I heard that that's made out of old

498
00:28:23,815 --> 00:28:26,495
Speaker 7: palettes and a lot of them are important from over

499
00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:31,215
Speaker 7: seas and this fungus has probably come on in old

500
00:28:31,295 --> 00:28:35,255
Speaker 7: palettes which are made from timber that's not treated. And

501
00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:40,215
Speaker 7: she's quite correct that you cannot get it off. And

502
00:28:40,655 --> 00:28:44,655
Speaker 7: when we first discovered it, our daughter parked her lightly

503
00:28:44,895 --> 00:28:49,535
Speaker 7: colored car near our property and she got home and

504
00:28:49,735 --> 00:28:52,695
Speaker 7: rang me and said, Mum, you've got something into a

505
00:28:52,855 --> 00:28:55,735
Speaker 7: house that's put black spots all down one side of

506
00:28:55,815 --> 00:28:58,935
Speaker 7: my car and it's like a sticky car.

507
00:28:59,455 --> 00:28:59,655
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:29:00,335 --> 00:29:05,135
Speaker 7: Well, anyway. With over several years we have finally we

509
00:29:05,335 --> 00:29:09,255
Speaker 7: changed all our black mulch with a natural bark which

510
00:29:09,335 --> 00:29:14,135
Speaker 7: is a bit resistant, more resistant to that hype of fungus.

511
00:29:14,855 --> 00:29:20,175
Speaker 7: If this tree bark is meant to shield things and

512
00:29:20,295 --> 00:29:25,095
Speaker 7: protect them, whereas the wood chip really lets that type

513
00:29:25,095 --> 00:29:29,895
Speaker 7: of infestation and anyway to come along sprey short After

514
00:29:29,975 --> 00:29:34,295
Speaker 7: several years, we discovered that a bleach is the way

515
00:29:34,375 --> 00:29:39,295
Speaker 7: to kill it. And you lifed up about five parts

516
00:29:39,855 --> 00:29:44,455
Speaker 7: water to one part bleach, and you can spray it

517
00:29:44,735 --> 00:29:49,575
Speaker 7: or ben water and can onto the bark and that

518
00:29:49,775 --> 00:29:52,455
Speaker 7: does kill it. But we just had to let this

519
00:29:52,935 --> 00:29:55,895
Speaker 7: little black spot settle for several years until it was

520
00:29:56,015 --> 00:29:59,975
Speaker 7: quite hard, and then our painters have sanded, water blasted,

521
00:30:00,055 --> 00:30:03,895
Speaker 7: sanded and got it off and repainted. But I'm still nervous.

522
00:30:03,975 --> 00:30:05,095
Speaker 11: I checked my wood.

523
00:30:06,455 --> 00:30:08,855
Speaker 7: One ter looking for the first little black spot because

524
00:30:09,375 --> 00:30:12,735
Speaker 7: you can see it in the ark. It's like a

525
00:30:12,815 --> 00:30:14,335
Speaker 7: little booth.

526
00:30:14,855 --> 00:30:18,215
Speaker 3: When you say small, are we talking a couple of millimeters?

527
00:30:18,255 --> 00:30:19,935
Speaker 3: Are we talking five millimeters?

528
00:30:21,575 --> 00:30:22,815
Speaker 7: Are you're talking the size of it?

529
00:30:23,135 --> 00:30:23,335
Speaker 3: Yeah?

530
00:30:24,375 --> 00:30:25,055
Speaker 7: A pinhead?

531
00:30:25,655 --> 00:30:26,375
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay?

532
00:30:29,135 --> 00:30:32,055
Speaker 7: And it sticks, it's up under the eaves out. He's

533
00:30:32,255 --> 00:30:35,975
Speaker 7: almost black with it. After like three seasons and we

534
00:30:36,135 --> 00:30:39,695
Speaker 7: were just distraught, not even knowing what was happening. Irang

535
00:30:39,895 --> 00:30:43,775
Speaker 7: the people that Rude would deal with, and they said, oh,

536
00:30:43,855 --> 00:30:47,015
Speaker 7: we're not interested because New Zealand does have its own variety,

537
00:30:47,335 --> 00:30:51,135
Speaker 7: and right we go. We got absolutely no help. We

538
00:30:51,335 --> 00:30:55,375
Speaker 7: contacted the landscape gardener who did the property like six

539
00:30:55,495 --> 00:30:58,575
Speaker 7: or seven years earlier, and everyone was just at a

540
00:30:59,015 --> 00:31:02,415
Speaker 7: loss and we really had to research it Outselda a.

541
00:31:02,455 --> 00:31:05,575
Speaker 3: Couple of quick questions in around it, because to be fair,

542
00:31:05,615 --> 00:31:07,735
Speaker 3: I've used black mulch at home. Right it's you know,

543
00:31:07,775 --> 00:31:12,935
Speaker 3: it looks a bit more flash or whatever. How close

544
00:31:13,215 --> 00:31:16,135
Speaker 3: to your house is the gardens that have the black mulch.

545
00:31:17,655 --> 00:31:19,975
Speaker 7: The gardens go right up to the house. But this

546
00:31:20,215 --> 00:31:23,735
Speaker 7: right and the and the mulch goes like the mulch

547
00:31:23,935 --> 00:31:26,655
Speaker 7: is like it's a big house. It could be three

548
00:31:26,815 --> 00:31:29,775
Speaker 7: meters of mult going out from the house. But this

549
00:31:29,895 --> 00:31:34,215
Speaker 7: little thing shoot twenty or forty feet when it when

550
00:31:34,295 --> 00:31:37,935
Speaker 7: it If you research it, you can research it under

551
00:31:37,975 --> 00:31:42,495
Speaker 7: shotgun fungus or artillery fungus. And it's called that for

552
00:31:42,615 --> 00:31:44,815
Speaker 7: a name. That name for a reason that.

553
00:31:44,895 --> 00:31:50,135
Speaker 12: It can shoot it twenty or thirty feet And when

554
00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:54,055
Speaker 12: you see it in the bark. It has the initial

555
00:31:54,175 --> 00:31:57,295
Speaker 12: spores are quite yellow, looking like a little.

556
00:31:57,215 --> 00:32:06,135
Speaker 7: Yellow yep spot, and then once it has exploded, it's

557
00:32:06,335 --> 00:32:09,775
Speaker 7: it's very close to the surface of the bark. It's

558
00:32:09,855 --> 00:32:13,495
Speaker 7: not a mushroom that has a stalk. It just sits

559
00:32:13,655 --> 00:32:16,255
Speaker 7: very very close to the surface. One of the best

560
00:32:16,335 --> 00:32:19,615
Speaker 7: ways to get rid of it, they said, you can

561
00:32:20,295 --> 00:32:22,375
Speaker 7: you have to bury the bark about four.

562
00:32:22,255 --> 00:32:24,575
Speaker 8: Inches steep deep, or you can.

563
00:32:26,535 --> 00:32:29,695
Speaker 7: You can get rid of it. Well, the bleach is

564
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:31,135
Speaker 7: the best thing we have found.

565
00:32:32,615 --> 00:32:35,655
Speaker 3: And the bleach you use on the bark in the garden.

566
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:40,015
Speaker 7: Yes, just pour it over the bark and it's meant

567
00:32:40,055 --> 00:32:40,575
Speaker 7: to kill.

568
00:32:40,415 --> 00:32:43,895
Speaker 3: The spoards, but surely the plants don't really like having

569
00:32:43,935 --> 00:32:45,895
Speaker 3: the bleach spread around the place as well.

570
00:32:47,575 --> 00:32:50,335
Speaker 7: It doesn't seem to affect anything else. I tested it

571
00:32:50,495 --> 00:32:53,815
Speaker 7: on because there are parts where it's like a mango

572
00:32:54,015 --> 00:32:56,175
Speaker 7: ground cover, and I would like to have poured the

573
00:32:56,255 --> 00:33:00,455
Speaker 7: bleach all over the top, and I have. I found

574
00:33:00,495 --> 00:33:04,735
Speaker 7: that it's quite good with the plants. It hasn't damaged.

575
00:33:05,815 --> 00:33:09,095
Speaker 7: I've been obviously just putting it in between and around

576
00:33:09,135 --> 00:33:10,135
Speaker 7: the plants if we can.

577
00:33:11,255 --> 00:33:13,775
Speaker 3: It's one of those things that you never thought you'd

578
00:33:13,775 --> 00:33:15,775
Speaker 3: become an expert in but obviously you have.

579
00:33:17,295 --> 00:33:20,215
Speaker 7: I really appreciate it right for us for several years,

580
00:33:20,255 --> 00:33:23,895
Speaker 7: and we've just in our house which is white repast it.

581
00:33:24,335 --> 00:33:25,695
Speaker 13: But I still go out.

582
00:33:27,095 --> 00:33:29,775
Speaker 7: After may or in winter time looking for it on

583
00:33:29,895 --> 00:33:32,215
Speaker 7: the glass. You can get it off the glass, yeah,

584
00:33:32,415 --> 00:33:35,215
Speaker 7: with a scrape. And you can get it off the

585
00:33:35,335 --> 00:33:39,615
Speaker 7: metal frame of your window easily too, but very difficult

586
00:33:39,695 --> 00:33:40,215
Speaker 7: to get.

587
00:33:40,375 --> 00:33:43,655
Speaker 3: Off the planted surface the paintwork. How intriguing.

588
00:33:44,135 --> 00:33:45,495
Speaker 7: Thank you to believe it.

589
00:33:45,655 --> 00:33:48,335
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet well. It'll be on my radar now.

590
00:33:48,335 --> 00:33:50,775
Speaker 3: I'll look out for that. Wendy, Thank you very much.

591
00:33:50,855 --> 00:33:54,135
Speaker 3: That was incredibly informative. I really appreciate that. And yes,

592
00:33:54,255 --> 00:33:58,095
Speaker 3: i'll ask about shotgun or artillery or bird's nest fungus

593
00:33:58,535 --> 00:34:00,455
Speaker 3: when you joined us at about eight thirty this morning.

594
00:34:00,495 --> 00:34:02,335
Speaker 3: We'll take a short break. It is six forty three.

595
00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:04,295
Speaker 3: Here a news stork seed B your new stalks heed

596
00:34:04,335 --> 00:34:08,295
Speaker 3: B earlier on a text about concrete sealers as well,

597
00:34:08,455 --> 00:34:11,175
Speaker 3: and someone has flicked through a quick recommendation for concrete

598
00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:13,895
Speaker 3: sealers dot co dot m Z. That's the Armatech range

599
00:34:14,415 --> 00:34:16,815
Speaker 3: NZ manufactured. I think I've seen them at trade shows

600
00:34:17,095 --> 00:34:19,455
Speaker 3: and that sort of thing over the years. Someone who's

601
00:34:19,455 --> 00:34:22,335
Speaker 3: also text I am busy today, Well, good for you.

602
00:34:24,095 --> 00:34:28,255
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that's actually about. Maybe it's about

603
00:34:28,255 --> 00:34:30,615
Speaker 3: the fair. I'm going to the fair today. Saint Leo's

604
00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:33,895
Speaker 3: and Devenport are on the shore. Maybe they're saying that

605
00:34:33,935 --> 00:34:35,975
Speaker 3: they're too busy to go. You don't know what you're

606
00:34:35,975 --> 00:34:37,895
Speaker 3: missing out on, I tell you. And the guys that

607
00:34:38,015 --> 00:34:41,135
Speaker 3: do the pul pork tacos ah craky, they put a

608
00:34:41,135 --> 00:34:43,535
Speaker 3: lot of effort into it and their outstanding right. Oh,

609
00:34:43,575 --> 00:34:46,015
Speaker 3: I'm starting to get hungry. It is seven forty six

610
00:34:46,295 --> 00:34:48,855
Speaker 3: forty seven and Pat a very good morning to you.

611
00:34:49,815 --> 00:34:54,255
Speaker 14: Hello Peter, Hello, I have got a problem my conservatory roof.

612
00:34:54,535 --> 00:34:58,695
Speaker 14: Yes place stick panels. Well, this is the third time

613
00:34:59,215 --> 00:35:03,295
Speaker 14: that the Hales put holes in it, and their insurance

614
00:35:03,335 --> 00:35:06,935
Speaker 14: of course won't come to the party, but leaks like

615
00:35:07,015 --> 00:35:11,455
Speaker 14: a sieve at the edges. Amazing eight. And I got

616
00:35:11,535 --> 00:35:13,775
Speaker 14: told off by the day because I was like, you're

617
00:35:13,855 --> 00:35:14,335
Speaker 14: right there.

618
00:35:16,535 --> 00:35:17,335
Speaker 15: Not allowed to do that.

619
00:35:18,335 --> 00:35:21,695
Speaker 14: But anyway, my sun in law's planning is putting these

620
00:35:21,775 --> 00:35:25,855
Speaker 14: solid panels up there, and is it going to make

621
00:35:25,935 --> 00:35:27,855
Speaker 14: it look too dark? Is it going to be too

622
00:35:27,895 --> 00:35:33,015
Speaker 14: heavy forever. But them jewdery or I think.

623
00:35:32,935 --> 00:35:36,015
Speaker 3: If they're going to use effectively. And I say this,

624
00:35:36,095 --> 00:35:38,695
Speaker 3: and it's not a gerograthy term like a freezer panel, right,

625
00:35:38,775 --> 00:35:42,175
Speaker 3: so it's metal on both sides, but I'm talking about Yeah,

626
00:35:42,255 --> 00:35:45,095
Speaker 3: that while is a bit of extra weight, I'm sure

627
00:35:45,095 --> 00:35:48,255
Speaker 3: that your aluminium structure will take the weight of that.

628
00:35:49,335 --> 00:35:54,055
Speaker 3: But yes, if it's completely solid, then you will get

629
00:35:54,135 --> 00:35:57,095
Speaker 3: no light through the conservatory roof anymore.

630
00:35:57,455 --> 00:36:00,935
Speaker 14: But we worry it's almost too hot to get out

631
00:36:00,975 --> 00:36:01,695
Speaker 14: there in the summit.

632
00:36:02,135 --> 00:36:04,415
Speaker 3: That's what I wonder whether now, with the way that

633
00:36:04,575 --> 00:36:07,815
Speaker 3: the weather is and so on, that that increasingly, you know,

634
00:36:08,055 --> 00:36:11,895
Speaker 3: just a clear roof, especially if it's you know, facing north,

635
00:36:11,975 --> 00:36:14,575
Speaker 3: and that you would just unless you do a lot

636
00:36:14,615 --> 00:36:16,975
Speaker 3: of extra treatments to the glass that you might have

637
00:36:17,135 --> 00:36:19,255
Speaker 3: in it. If you did have glass, then it's it's

638
00:36:19,335 --> 00:36:22,975
Speaker 3: going to be sweltering in there. So no, look, I

639
00:36:23,255 --> 00:36:26,215
Speaker 3: think that'd be fine. And then ideally just make sure

640
00:36:26,255 --> 00:36:29,735
Speaker 3: that the panels overhang by a decent amount one hundred.

641
00:36:29,615 --> 00:36:32,615
Speaker 14: Hundred and fifty mil on either end and put a

642
00:36:32,735 --> 00:36:33,535
Speaker 14: heavier spout.

643
00:36:33,975 --> 00:36:36,015
Speaker 3: He said, yeah, that would that would work as well.

644
00:36:36,215 --> 00:36:38,775
Speaker 3: Spoutings typically cope with, you know, the load from a

645
00:36:38,855 --> 00:36:41,855
Speaker 3: small roof, but just to give a bit of an

646
00:36:41,935 --> 00:36:45,815
Speaker 3: eve effectively will give you protection around that junction, and

647
00:36:45,895 --> 00:36:47,935
Speaker 3: then if it's well sealed, you'll be fine.

648
00:36:48,895 --> 00:36:52,055
Speaker 14: I wouldn't recommend that plastic stuff to anybody because the

649
00:36:52,175 --> 00:36:54,495
Speaker 14: holes are in the top layer and then the water

650
00:36:54,615 --> 00:36:57,415
Speaker 14: gets and the net doll goes black and green and

651
00:36:57,975 --> 00:36:58,855
Speaker 14: oh it's awful.

652
00:36:59,215 --> 00:36:59,415
Speaker 16: Yeah.

653
00:36:59,455 --> 00:37:01,695
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I've got some clear light roofing on

654
00:37:01,935 --> 00:37:04,175
Speaker 3: my in my workshop, right, So I've got sort of

655
00:37:04,455 --> 00:37:07,855
Speaker 3: steel and then clear pan and look they I replaced

656
00:37:07,895 --> 00:37:10,495
Speaker 3: them was beginning of last year, but the old ones

657
00:37:10,535 --> 00:37:12,975
Speaker 3: had been there twenty or thirty years. So I tell

658
00:37:12,975 --> 00:37:16,295
Speaker 3: you what I've did foolishly is I went and got

659
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:20,735
Speaker 3: some clear sheeting, right, and I went, gosh, this is great.

660
00:37:20,815 --> 00:37:23,015
Speaker 3: This is a tremendous amount of light. But then it

661
00:37:23,135 --> 00:37:27,135
Speaker 3: was also swelteringly hot in the workshop over summer, so

662
00:37:27,175 --> 00:37:29,255
Speaker 3: I ended up having to take those sheets off again

663
00:37:29,335 --> 00:37:32,775
Speaker 3: and replace them with some that had more UV protection in,

664
00:37:32,975 --> 00:37:34,335
Speaker 3: which made a big difference.

665
00:37:34,375 --> 00:37:36,575
Speaker 15: But that was my day out there.

666
00:37:37,095 --> 00:37:39,135
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. Yeah, it's warm enough.

667
00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:42,775
Speaker 14: Thank you so much for it, my mind, it thank

668
00:37:43,575 --> 00:37:44,855
Speaker 14: all the best to you, Thank.

669
00:37:44,695 --> 00:37:47,415
Speaker 3: You, thank you, take care all the best and good

670
00:37:47,455 --> 00:37:50,535
Speaker 3: on you. Eighty eight up on the roof. That's awesome.

671
00:37:50,735 --> 00:37:53,175
Speaker 3: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number

672
00:37:53,215 --> 00:37:54,455
Speaker 3: to call Dana. Good morning to you.

673
00:37:55,695 --> 00:37:57,975
Speaker 15: I was wanted if you can give me advice. I

674
00:37:58,695 --> 00:38:01,455
Speaker 15: was going to go go do my house up and

675
00:38:01,775 --> 00:38:05,015
Speaker 15: I should have don't know what start, And I was wondering,

676
00:38:05,055 --> 00:38:07,015
Speaker 15: how long does the electric work firing about?

677
00:38:08,855 --> 00:38:10,415
Speaker 3: Well, how old is the house?

678
00:38:10,535 --> 00:38:13,815
Speaker 15: Roughly, Well, it's built in the early nineteen.

679
00:38:13,575 --> 00:38:19,175
Speaker 3: Seventies, okay, so it'll be what we'd call generally modern wiring, right,

680
00:38:19,255 --> 00:38:24,895
Speaker 3: So it's TPS, it has a coating around it. And

681
00:38:25,015 --> 00:38:27,415
Speaker 3: given that it's you know, most of it's concealed, right,

682
00:38:27,495 --> 00:38:29,735
Speaker 3: so it's not exposed to UV because it's in the

683
00:38:29,815 --> 00:38:34,055
Speaker 3: walls or it's in the roof space. Realistically, I can't

684
00:38:34,095 --> 00:38:36,295
Speaker 3: imagine that you would need to be concerned about it

685
00:38:36,735 --> 00:38:39,615
Speaker 3: for many, many many years. In fact, I wouldn't be

686
00:38:39,695 --> 00:38:42,335
Speaker 3: concerned about wiring that's forty years old in a house

687
00:38:42,375 --> 00:38:45,015
Speaker 3: at all. Get it by all means, get it tested,

688
00:38:45,135 --> 00:38:48,295
Speaker 3: and if there is a fault, an electrical inspector will

689
00:38:48,295 --> 00:38:51,095
Speaker 3: be able to identify that. But I don't think you've

690
00:38:51,135 --> 00:38:52,655
Speaker 3: really got too many concerns.

691
00:38:54,015 --> 00:38:54,055
Speaker 9: Me.

692
00:38:54,215 --> 00:38:56,655
Speaker 15: One thing is I had an electrician come in once

693
00:38:56,735 --> 00:39:00,615
Speaker 15: and he was looking as a light fitting and he

694
00:39:00,735 --> 00:39:05,135
Speaker 15: said that there was no worse. And I don't know

695
00:39:05,215 --> 00:39:07,455
Speaker 15: whether that's where the shore should.

696
00:39:08,095 --> 00:39:11,255
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, whether that's a question that there was no

697
00:39:11,455 --> 00:39:15,455
Speaker 3: earth in the fitting, but your house should be earthed.

698
00:39:15,535 --> 00:39:19,255
Speaker 3: So outside your house should be a peg rod that

699
00:39:19,375 --> 00:39:21,935
Speaker 3: goes into the ground and then typically it's a green

700
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:24,615
Speaker 3: cable that you see running out to it. That's really

701
00:39:24,735 --> 00:39:27,895
Speaker 3: really important that it's there. And if it's not there,

702
00:39:28,175 --> 00:39:30,135
Speaker 3: or if it's a not good condition, and that's what

703
00:39:30,255 --> 00:39:32,375
Speaker 3: happens to them over time they get but knocked or

704
00:39:32,415 --> 00:39:35,775
Speaker 3: the connection gets loose or the wire phrase, you need

705
00:39:35,855 --> 00:39:37,935
Speaker 3: to have that looked at. So yes, having your house

706
00:39:38,055 --> 00:39:39,575
Speaker 3: earthed is really important.

707
00:39:40,735 --> 00:39:43,215
Speaker 15: Okay, Well, it's just there's no green in anything that

708
00:39:43,295 --> 00:39:45,975
Speaker 15: I can see. But I could go to the electrician

709
00:39:46,055 --> 00:39:47,575
Speaker 15: to come in and look. But I just sort of

710
00:39:50,815 --> 00:39:52,775
Speaker 15: you looked at one of the lights, which you said

711
00:39:52,815 --> 00:39:55,015
Speaker 15: that it was on earth. And that's what's.

712
00:39:54,895 --> 00:39:58,175
Speaker 3: Bothering me, is I mean, again, I'm not going to.

713
00:39:58,535 --> 00:40:02,135
Speaker 15: Individual could an individual light vitally not the earth, but

714
00:40:02,255 --> 00:40:03,535
Speaker 15: the rest of the place could be.

715
00:40:03,815 --> 00:40:07,895
Speaker 3: Yes, it is possible. And I'm thinking about some fittings

716
00:40:07,935 --> 00:40:11,055
Speaker 3: that I've seen, you know, as the guys have taken

717
00:40:11,095 --> 00:40:12,855
Speaker 3: them apart in that sort of thing. And sometimes there

718
00:40:12,895 --> 00:40:15,455
Speaker 3: won't be an earth to a light fitting. But your

719
00:40:15,535 --> 00:40:17,735
Speaker 3: house should absolutely be earthed.

720
00:40:18,695 --> 00:40:21,015
Speaker 15: Oh I see, it might just be the light things.

721
00:40:21,215 --> 00:40:25,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you euldn't.

722
00:40:26,615 --> 00:40:29,415
Speaker 3: This circuit will be, but not necessarily the fitting.

723
00:40:31,095 --> 00:40:31,455
Speaker 5: Very much.

724
00:40:31,495 --> 00:40:33,655
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you look after yourself, done, take care.

725
00:40:33,895 --> 00:40:36,055
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, will take your calls.

726
00:40:36,055 --> 00:40:37,575
Speaker 3: Will take a short break as well. It is six

727
00:40:37,695 --> 00:40:41,215
Speaker 3: fifty three. I've just had a Eureka moment. For those

728
00:40:41,255 --> 00:40:43,575
Speaker 3: of you who didn't do classics, Eureka was the moment

729
00:40:43,655 --> 00:40:47,415
Speaker 3: where Archimedes was in the bath. I wasn't in the bath.

730
00:40:47,455 --> 00:40:49,415
Speaker 3: I didn't even have a bath during the news break

731
00:40:49,495 --> 00:40:50,695
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But I did have a bit

732
00:40:50,695 --> 00:40:53,175
Speaker 3: of wander around, stretch my legs, and I was thinking

733
00:40:53,215 --> 00:40:55,255
Speaker 3: about something that arrived at my place this week, which

734
00:40:55,375 --> 00:40:59,295
Speaker 3: was a portable dust extractor. So it's a little Rhyobi

735
00:40:59,415 --> 00:41:02,015
Speaker 3: eighteen vault extractor. It's about the size of a large

736
00:41:02,095 --> 00:41:05,335
Speaker 3: lunch box basically with a hose attachment on it. It's

737
00:41:05,375 --> 00:41:07,695
Speaker 3: wet and dry, and you can use it obviously as

738
00:41:07,695 --> 00:41:10,695
Speaker 3: a vacuum, or more importantly for me, I can use

739
00:41:10,735 --> 00:41:14,095
Speaker 3: it as a dust extractor. So it's something that I'm

740
00:41:15,855 --> 00:41:19,695
Speaker 3: fastidious without being obsessive about. And then I got thinking

741
00:41:19,695 --> 00:41:22,175
Speaker 3: about the fact that I had this and I unboxed

742
00:41:22,215 --> 00:41:24,215
Speaker 3: it during the week, and then I'm wandering around the

743
00:41:24,335 --> 00:41:28,175
Speaker 3: house yesterday looking like a crazy person carrying this little

744
00:41:28,255 --> 00:41:34,095
Speaker 3: Robie project vacuum, just randomly vacuuming things, you know, lifted

745
00:41:34,135 --> 00:41:38,095
Speaker 3: the rug, vacuumed underneath the rug, down behind the back

746
00:41:38,135 --> 00:41:40,415
Speaker 3: of the TV, vacuumed the dust from the back of

747
00:41:40,455 --> 00:41:42,015
Speaker 3: the TV, this sort of thing. And then I wandered

748
00:41:42,015 --> 00:41:45,855
Speaker 3: around workshop doing exactly the same thing. And then I

749
00:41:46,015 --> 00:41:48,375
Speaker 3: was thinking earlier on about the fact that now I've

750
00:41:48,375 --> 00:41:50,535
Speaker 3: got this portable vacuum, which is good, but that now

751
00:41:50,655 --> 00:41:54,175
Speaker 3: gets me to four dust extraction systems in my workshop.

752
00:41:54,295 --> 00:41:57,215
Speaker 3: So underneath the workbench, I've got you know, the classic

753
00:41:57,335 --> 00:41:59,855
Speaker 3: sort of bag attached to a big fan. I plug

754
00:41:59,935 --> 00:42:02,735
Speaker 3: that into the table saw when I'm using that, which

755
00:42:02,815 --> 00:42:05,895
Speaker 3: is great. Then I've got another vacuum cleaner, which is

756
00:42:05,935 --> 00:42:09,615
Speaker 3: there on a heavy duty one for general vacuuming. Then

757
00:42:09,615 --> 00:42:12,255
Speaker 3: I've got a small one that's permanently attached to the

758
00:42:12,335 --> 00:42:15,215
Speaker 3: drop saw at the drop saw station. And then I'm thinking,

759
00:42:15,375 --> 00:42:18,015
Speaker 3: is four types of dust extraction in a small workshop

760
00:42:18,215 --> 00:42:20,895
Speaker 3: just a little bit excessive? Could I reduce that? Then

761
00:42:20,895 --> 00:42:22,615
Speaker 3: I got to the point where I remember I picked

762
00:42:22,695 --> 00:42:25,575
Speaker 3: up an additional hose for one of those vacuums, which

763
00:42:25,655 --> 00:42:28,175
Speaker 3: instead of having two vacuums side by side, I could

764
00:42:28,255 --> 00:42:31,335
Speaker 3: just attach one hose permanently to the drop saw and

765
00:42:31,615 --> 00:42:33,975
Speaker 3: just do the connection at the vacuum. That will free

766
00:42:34,055 --> 00:42:38,815
Speaker 3: up some more space. Anyway, that was my Eureka moment. Yeah,

767
00:42:39,175 --> 00:42:42,295
Speaker 3: these things occupy my mind as I'm wandering through the building.

768
00:42:42,335 --> 00:42:45,455
Speaker 3: Here we're talking all things building construction this morning, and

769
00:42:45,855 --> 00:42:47,735
Speaker 3: dust extraction if you want to talk about that as well,

770
00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:51,095
Speaker 3: and a fascinating discussion in the first hour about these

771
00:42:51,215 --> 00:42:56,295
Speaker 3: little black spots that can appear on painted surfaces, exterior

772
00:42:56,375 --> 00:43:01,215
Speaker 3: painted surfaces, particularly weatherboards, and whether they are in one case,

773
00:43:01,335 --> 00:43:03,775
Speaker 3: like a moth that lays an egg which is almost

774
00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:06,775
Speaker 3: impossible to get off the husk of that. And then

775
00:43:06,855 --> 00:43:10,775
Speaker 3: these other things called either shotgun fungus, bird's nest fungus

776
00:43:10,895 --> 00:43:13,655
Speaker 3: or artillery fungus. So we've got a lot to talk

777
00:43:13,655 --> 00:43:16,255
Speaker 3: about with rud when he joins me at around eight

778
00:43:16,415 --> 00:43:19,015
Speaker 3: thirty this morning. This morning on the program, we've got

779
00:43:19,055 --> 00:43:22,175
Speaker 3: our painting expert Jay from Razine. He'll be joining us

780
00:43:22,175 --> 00:43:25,055
Speaker 3: at around seven thirty. If you've got a specific painting question,

781
00:43:26,335 --> 00:43:27,975
Speaker 3: we can have a crack at that with Jay at

782
00:43:27,975 --> 00:43:31,615
Speaker 3: around seven thirty. But right now it's your opportunity to

783
00:43:31,695 --> 00:43:34,695
Speaker 3: talk all things building in construction. Eight hundred and eighty

784
00:43:34,855 --> 00:43:37,495
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. Mark a very

785
00:43:37,535 --> 00:43:39,135
Speaker 3: good morning, Good.

786
00:43:38,975 --> 00:43:42,855
Speaker 5: Morning, Peter, thank you very much for the call. I'm

787
00:43:43,375 --> 00:43:49,935
Speaker 5: curious about the definition between a garage and a carboard. Yes,

788
00:43:50,415 --> 00:43:56,895
Speaker 5: for legality wise, obviously councils have in different areas have

789
00:43:57,295 --> 00:44:00,495
Speaker 5: different bi laws. But I'm curious if these are set size.

790
00:44:01,535 --> 00:44:06,495
Speaker 5: If it isn't covered in with walls, then ideally you

791
00:44:06,575 --> 00:44:08,055
Speaker 5: could class it as a carport.

792
00:44:09,015 --> 00:44:11,815
Speaker 3: And that's as I understand it, essentially what it is.

793
00:44:11,935 --> 00:44:14,615
Speaker 3: So garage we would expect, you know, three walls and

794
00:44:14,655 --> 00:44:18,535
Speaker 3: the big door, and car ports are allowed to have

795
00:44:18,855 --> 00:44:22,175
Speaker 3: i think say two sides and closed or you know,

796
00:44:22,295 --> 00:44:28,215
Speaker 3: partly enclosed or sheltered. But the basically they're open, right,

797
00:44:28,655 --> 00:44:32,535
Speaker 3: and so car ports in Underschedule one of the Building Act,

798
00:44:32,895 --> 00:44:35,695
Speaker 3: which talks about work that might not require a building consent.

799
00:44:36,055 --> 00:44:38,415
Speaker 3: Typically you can build up to I think it's forty

800
00:44:38,535 --> 00:44:42,655
Speaker 3: square meter car port without necessarily requiring a building consent,

801
00:44:43,375 --> 00:44:45,935
Speaker 3: depending on where it's located on the property.

802
00:44:47,055 --> 00:44:50,855
Speaker 5: So if it was located sort of straight off the

803
00:44:51,135 --> 00:44:57,775
Speaker 5: drive as you in close proximity to the footpath and

804
00:44:58,735 --> 00:45:02,335
Speaker 5: classic there's a car port, would that get around a

805
00:45:02,415 --> 00:45:04,495
Speaker 5: building not having to have a building perm.

806
00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:09,535
Speaker 3: Maybe not, because often because what you're describing as you

807
00:45:09,655 --> 00:45:12,695
Speaker 3: sort of come in off the roadway, over the curb,

808
00:45:12,775 --> 00:45:15,055
Speaker 3: over the footpath onto your property and that's where you

809
00:45:15,095 --> 00:45:21,175
Speaker 3: would put it. So some planning regulations exclude buildings in

810
00:45:21,215 --> 00:45:24,175
Speaker 3: the front yard. There's often a front yard setback, so

811
00:45:24,255 --> 00:45:26,375
Speaker 3: you might have to be three meters five meters six

812
00:45:26,495 --> 00:45:29,335
Speaker 3: meters back from the entry of your property before you're

813
00:45:29,375 --> 00:45:34,575
Speaker 3: allowed to put a structure on. So I was talking

814
00:45:34,575 --> 00:45:36,255
Speaker 3: about this the other day and a little piece of

815
00:45:36,815 --> 00:45:41,615
Speaker 3: video content that we were making talking about you know,

816
00:45:41,735 --> 00:45:44,655
Speaker 3: we've got this real focus on going. Okay, the Building

817
00:45:44,735 --> 00:45:47,655
Speaker 3: Act determines what we can build, but in fact, all

818
00:45:47,775 --> 00:45:51,535
Speaker 3: sorts of other pieces of legislation also determine what we

819
00:45:51,615 --> 00:45:53,535
Speaker 3: can build, how we can build, and where we can

820
00:45:53,575 --> 00:45:57,175
Speaker 3: build those items. So planning, for example, is one of them.

821
00:45:57,495 --> 00:46:00,575
Speaker 3: In the same way that some councils have requirements and

822
00:46:00,655 --> 00:46:03,975
Speaker 3: regulations around the height of a fence. Front fences is

823
00:46:04,055 --> 00:46:06,895
Speaker 3: limited to a certain height in some parts of the country.

824
00:46:07,375 --> 00:46:11,095
Speaker 5: So yes, yes, yes, I'm a little aware on the

825
00:46:11,175 --> 00:46:13,775
Speaker 5: height of the fence. I think in some areas it's

826
00:46:14,135 --> 00:46:16,735
Speaker 5: two meters, it's eighteen hundred, and then I'm not sure

827
00:46:16,735 --> 00:46:17,495
Speaker 5: about the fronts.

828
00:46:17,935 --> 00:46:22,655
Speaker 3: The front some areas, particularly heritage areas, where you're limited

829
00:46:22,695 --> 00:46:24,855
Speaker 3: to one point two meters height on a front fence.

830
00:46:24,895 --> 00:46:27,375
Speaker 3: But that's not what I know you were asking about.

831
00:46:27,455 --> 00:46:32,575
Speaker 3: So I think you would need to do a specific

832
00:46:32,695 --> 00:46:38,015
Speaker 3: search for the planning regulations of your territorial authority around

833
00:46:38,095 --> 00:46:41,815
Speaker 3: where you can locate certain types of buildings, typically in

834
00:46:41,895 --> 00:46:46,415
Speaker 3: a front yard would trigger a requirement for a building

835
00:46:46,455 --> 00:46:47,175
Speaker 3: concent I'd.

836
00:46:47,015 --> 00:46:51,175
Speaker 5: Say, so a height restriction on a cap or you know,

837
00:46:51,295 --> 00:46:52,055
Speaker 5: if there is one.

838
00:46:53,335 --> 00:46:57,055
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's probably similar to a

839
00:46:57,175 --> 00:47:00,575
Speaker 3: minor dwelling, so overall it can't exceed I think off

840
00:47:00,615 --> 00:47:03,055
Speaker 3: the top of my head it's somewhere around three and

841
00:47:03,095 --> 00:47:07,455
Speaker 3: a half meters, you know, which would allow you know,

842
00:47:07,615 --> 00:47:10,775
Speaker 3: that's a reasonably high building. The other thing is proximity

843
00:47:10,855 --> 00:47:14,855
Speaker 3: to boundary. So for a lot of buildings that don't

844
00:47:14,895 --> 00:47:17,935
Speaker 3: require a building consent, the rule that allows you to

845
00:47:18,015 --> 00:47:20,495
Speaker 3: do that is that you must be the height of

846
00:47:20,575 --> 00:47:23,415
Speaker 3: the building away from the boundary. And there's a certain

847
00:47:23,495 --> 00:47:27,295
Speaker 3: logic to that. If it fell over right then and

848
00:47:27,415 --> 00:47:29,415
Speaker 3: you've got a three meter high wall and it's three

849
00:47:29,495 --> 00:47:31,415
Speaker 3: meters from the boundary and it falls over, it's not

850
00:47:31,535 --> 00:47:34,695
Speaker 3: going to impact on your neighbor. So you know, if

851
00:47:34,735 --> 00:47:37,215
Speaker 3: you're doing a three meter high wall that's a meter

852
00:47:37,335 --> 00:47:39,535
Speaker 3: from the boundary and it fell over and it headed

853
00:47:39,575 --> 00:47:44,855
Speaker 3: that way, then obviously that's going to impact on the neighbor.

854
00:47:45,135 --> 00:47:47,295
Speaker 3: In that case, you might need a building consent for

855
00:47:47,415 --> 00:47:50,575
Speaker 3: a building like that. Typically, if you're building closer than

856
00:47:50,615 --> 00:47:54,535
Speaker 3: a meter from the boundary, there's also a requirement for

857
00:47:54,695 --> 00:47:57,855
Speaker 3: fire rating and that certainly does need a building consent.

858
00:47:58,735 --> 00:48:02,295
Speaker 5: So just hypothetically, I won't hold this up any longer,

859
00:48:02,415 --> 00:48:08,895
Speaker 5: but if you poured a concrete slab, as I say,

860
00:48:09,055 --> 00:48:13,415
Speaker 5: just inside the boundary to park two cars, would you

861
00:48:13,535 --> 00:48:17,615
Speaker 5: be able to then claim or could it be possible

862
00:48:18,015 --> 00:48:22,055
Speaker 5: that on the boundary you could put in four poles

863
00:48:22,775 --> 00:48:30,575
Speaker 5: and then put a shade cloth. So yeah, I look

864
00:48:31,335 --> 00:48:32,295
Speaker 5: pushing me on the lope.

865
00:48:32,735 --> 00:48:36,695
Speaker 3: No, Essentially you're looking for cover, right, for a vehicle

866
00:48:36,775 --> 00:48:39,495
Speaker 3: or something like that. Yeah, I would imagine that no,

867
00:48:39,615 --> 00:48:42,495
Speaker 3: one's probably going to object too much with the shade cloth.

868
00:48:43,455 --> 00:48:47,095
Speaker 3: And theoretically if you're then attaching it maybe to the

869
00:48:47,175 --> 00:48:48,935
Speaker 3: house for anchoring and that sort of thing, it's going

870
00:48:49,015 --> 00:48:51,575
Speaker 3: to stop it heading towards the neighbors. So yeah. And

871
00:48:52,055 --> 00:48:55,095
Speaker 3: also shade cloths would typically be seen as temporary rather

872
00:48:55,215 --> 00:48:55,775
Speaker 3: than permanent.

873
00:48:56,895 --> 00:48:58,335
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, So no trouble.

874
00:48:58,775 --> 00:49:01,895
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what if you wanting to use like

875
00:49:02,055 --> 00:49:04,615
Speaker 3: a yes no checkbox type approach to this, which is

876
00:49:04,695 --> 00:49:07,575
Speaker 3: quite good. It may not off everything, But what you

877
00:49:07,655 --> 00:49:10,095
Speaker 3: do is you go to canibuild it, dot gov, dot

878
00:49:10,215 --> 00:49:14,495
Speaker 3: enz Oh really yeah, and then you just work your

879
00:49:14,495 --> 00:49:17,815
Speaker 3: way through can I build it, and it will say

880
00:49:17,975 --> 00:49:19,615
Speaker 3: what do you want to build? Where do you want

881
00:49:19,655 --> 00:49:21,615
Speaker 3: to build it? And it will give you sort of

882
00:49:21,655 --> 00:49:26,015
Speaker 3: a series of yes no responses and indicate whether or

883
00:49:26,055 --> 00:49:28,655
Speaker 3: not you might need a consent or what other pieces

884
00:49:28,655 --> 00:49:31,495
Speaker 3: of legislation might impact on it. So it's a very

885
00:49:31,535 --> 00:49:36,735
Speaker 3: good website, really helpful, all the best, Yes, Stephen, Oh

886
00:49:36,735 --> 00:49:40,055
Speaker 3: he's gone, he's gone, He's off, right ya try that anyway?

887
00:49:40,575 --> 00:49:43,295
Speaker 3: Can I build it? Dot gov dot NZ is very

888
00:49:43,415 --> 00:49:45,975
Speaker 3: very useful. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

889
00:49:46,015 --> 00:49:47,655
Speaker 3: the number to call if you've got a question of

890
00:49:47,735 --> 00:49:50,575
Speaker 3: a building nature. We can we can discuss all of

891
00:49:50,655 --> 00:49:53,175
Speaker 3: these things. What's the point of a car port? Please? Well,

892
00:49:53,335 --> 00:49:56,215
Speaker 3: essentially at shelter, isn't it for your vehicle? Simple as that?

893
00:49:57,175 --> 00:50:00,015
Speaker 3: And you know, typically if what you're concerned about is

894
00:50:00,095 --> 00:50:01,735
Speaker 3: keeping the rain a bit a son off, and you're

895
00:50:01,775 --> 00:50:04,255
Speaker 3: not worried about storing lots of other things in there,

896
00:50:04,615 --> 00:50:09,015
Speaker 3: then a carport will provide that. Arguably not as good

897
00:50:09,055 --> 00:50:13,375
Speaker 3: at protecting vehicles as having a garage, but garage, you know,

898
00:50:13,535 --> 00:50:16,375
Speaker 3: might be too expensive, so car port often a more

899
00:50:17,095 --> 00:50:20,055
Speaker 3: cost effective solution. Oh, eight hundred eighteen eighty the number

900
00:50:20,095 --> 00:50:22,815
Speaker 3: to call. Hey, Stephen, good morning, Oh.

901
00:50:22,855 --> 00:50:26,535
Speaker 8: Good morning. Thank you for taking my call. Peter. It's

902
00:50:27,335 --> 00:50:30,175
Speaker 8: it's a new build, yep. And it's a long run

903
00:50:30,335 --> 00:50:35,855
Speaker 8: roof and we've got I've got two little points. Depending

904
00:50:35,895 --> 00:50:40,135
Speaker 8: on the the direction of the wind, there's a fluttering noise,

905
00:50:40,455 --> 00:50:43,535
Speaker 8: which I can only presume is the building paper. Yep,

906
00:50:44,535 --> 00:50:50,135
Speaker 8: and it's it's quite loud. And have access to the loft.

907
00:50:50,735 --> 00:50:55,935
Speaker 8: When I'm in the loft of the little ladders, I

908
00:50:56,015 --> 00:51:01,655
Speaker 8: can see a light all all around that area. And

909
00:51:01,735 --> 00:51:06,135
Speaker 8: I'm just wondering whether whether the two are actually going

910
00:51:06,175 --> 00:51:06,935
Speaker 8: to acted.

911
00:51:08,655 --> 00:51:12,495
Speaker 3: What the roofing underlay that's there. Is it black or

912
00:51:12,615 --> 00:51:15,855
Speaker 3: is it colored eye white or blue or something like that.

913
00:51:17,775 --> 00:51:20,695
Speaker 8: The roofing under I can't actually see it because there's

914
00:51:20,735 --> 00:51:26,735
Speaker 8: so much insulation. I've just viewed. I've just viewed it

915
00:51:26,815 --> 00:51:28,735
Speaker 8: from actually from the top of the from the top

916
00:51:28,775 --> 00:51:34,455
Speaker 8: of the ladders into the loft. The sound is quite

917
00:51:35,095 --> 00:51:38,735
Speaker 8: is quite. It sounds like a bird that stuffy yeah.

918
00:51:38,575 --> 00:51:39,535
Speaker 3: And fluttering away.

919
00:51:39,815 --> 00:51:40,015
Speaker 16: Yeah.

920
00:51:41,215 --> 00:51:43,295
Speaker 3: Yes, I have to say it's it is a little

921
00:51:43,335 --> 00:51:47,455
Speaker 3: bit unusual. But if the building or the in this case,

922
00:51:47,495 --> 00:51:50,895
Speaker 3: the roofing underlay has been laid and they haven't put

923
00:51:50,975 --> 00:51:55,855
Speaker 3: sufficient fixings in it, or they've inadvertently torn it somewhere

924
00:51:55,975 --> 00:51:58,735
Speaker 3: and then kind of ignored that and roofed over it,

925
00:51:59,375 --> 00:52:03,695
Speaker 3: then yeah, and and depending on the direction where the

926
00:52:03,735 --> 00:52:06,935
Speaker 3: wind is coming from, if wind is getting in underneath

927
00:52:06,975 --> 00:52:11,815
Speaker 3: that sheet, then potentially it's fluttering and and that would

928
00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:12,695
Speaker 3: be frustrating.

929
00:52:13,975 --> 00:52:17,215
Speaker 8: I've had it on all around, all around the actual building,

930
00:52:17,295 --> 00:52:20,415
Speaker 8: depending on the wind, and then on the.

931
00:52:20,775 --> 00:52:21,015
Speaker 14: On the.

932
00:52:22,895 --> 00:52:28,215
Speaker 8: Side of the side of the house tasting east, it

933
00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:33,375
Speaker 8: tends to be in that area from a yeah, and

934
00:52:35,175 --> 00:52:39,895
Speaker 8: likewise the other side of the house, a different wind

935
00:52:39,975 --> 00:52:43,775
Speaker 8: direction creates the same sort of effect.

936
00:52:44,855 --> 00:52:49,135
Speaker 3: And you say it's a new build, yes, okay, so

937
00:52:51,775 --> 00:52:54,375
Speaker 3: there may well be guaranteed attached, or even if there

938
00:52:54,495 --> 00:52:58,175
Speaker 3: isn't a guarantee, you still have protections under the both

939
00:52:58,215 --> 00:53:00,935
Speaker 3: the Building Act and the Consumer Guarantees. So have you

940
00:53:01,055 --> 00:53:04,295
Speaker 3: made an approach to the main contractor to go, hey, look,

941
00:53:04,575 --> 00:53:05,975
Speaker 3: I want you to come back and address this.

942
00:53:07,775 --> 00:53:08,015
Speaker 13: I have.

943
00:53:08,575 --> 00:53:10,735
Speaker 8: We've only been in the house for four weeks.

944
00:53:10,495 --> 00:53:13,655
Speaker 3: Now, okay, so early days it is.

945
00:53:14,255 --> 00:53:19,535
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm just wondering what what your opinion would be that, well,

946
00:53:21,135 --> 00:53:22,895
Speaker 8: you know, do they have to but they have to

947
00:53:22,935 --> 00:53:25,135
Speaker 8: put some more flashing in there or.

948
00:53:27,175 --> 00:53:30,975
Speaker 3: Look, it could be any number of things. So for example,

949
00:53:31,175 --> 00:53:34,775
Speaker 3: if at the top of the run of the is

950
00:53:34,815 --> 00:53:37,735
Speaker 3: it a corrugate or is it a different trapezoidal shape

951
00:53:37,975 --> 00:53:40,415
Speaker 3: roofing that you've got, it's.

952
00:53:40,455 --> 00:53:44,255
Speaker 8: It's the like amn decking it used to be called

953
00:53:44,295 --> 00:53:48,775
Speaker 8: in the old days along run color steel.

954
00:53:49,375 --> 00:53:52,175
Speaker 3: Okay ye. So typically you know, for example, at the

955
00:53:52,215 --> 00:53:55,775
Speaker 3: top of the sheet, before you fix the flashing over it,

956
00:53:55,855 --> 00:53:58,295
Speaker 3: you turn up the trough right now, if for some

957
00:53:58,495 --> 00:54:01,455
Speaker 3: reason they didn't do that and air is shooting up there,

958
00:54:01,615 --> 00:54:04,095
Speaker 3: that'll that'll course me if at the bottom of the

959
00:54:04,175 --> 00:54:07,575
Speaker 3: sheet the facial boarders set too low and you might

960
00:54:07,655 --> 00:54:10,615
Speaker 3: have an excessive gap there, depending on the pitch of

961
00:54:10,695 --> 00:54:13,295
Speaker 3: the roof. In some case you need a little underflashing.

962
00:54:14,215 --> 00:54:16,575
Speaker 3: It might be if it's in a high wind zone

963
00:54:16,655 --> 00:54:18,615
Speaker 3: and they haven't done a great job of the underlay,

964
00:54:18,735 --> 00:54:23,775
Speaker 3: then possibly they need to install a foam filler in there,

965
00:54:23,895 --> 00:54:26,615
Speaker 3: So back the sheets off, install a foam filler to

966
00:54:26,775 --> 00:54:29,695
Speaker 3: stop air getting in there. But I think if someone

967
00:54:30,015 --> 00:54:32,335
Speaker 3: is able to get access to the roof space and

968
00:54:32,455 --> 00:54:35,215
Speaker 3: have a look, if you know, you'll always see a

969
00:54:35,215 --> 00:54:37,335
Speaker 3: little bit of light shining through on a roof, but

970
00:54:37,415 --> 00:54:40,775
Speaker 3: it shouldn't be extensive. And maybe if someone was to

971
00:54:40,855 --> 00:54:43,015
Speaker 3: go in there during you know, on a windy day

972
00:54:43,255 --> 00:54:45,855
Speaker 3: and be able to identify where the sound's coming from.

973
00:54:46,095 --> 00:54:48,815
Speaker 3: If it's something like a tear in the roofing, underlay

974
00:54:48,855 --> 00:54:52,135
Speaker 3: that they haven't bothered to fix. Then that's poor workmanship

975
00:54:52,335 --> 00:54:55,495
Speaker 3: and someone should come pull off those sheets, redo the

976
00:54:55,615 --> 00:54:57,135
Speaker 3: roofing underlay and replace it.

977
00:54:58,815 --> 00:55:01,895
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, that sounds quite a big it does.

978
00:55:02,055 --> 00:55:04,575
Speaker 3: The only good thing is it's not your problem. It's

979
00:55:04,615 --> 00:55:05,575
Speaker 3: the contractor's problem.

980
00:55:05,695 --> 00:55:05,815
Speaker 7: Right.

981
00:55:05,935 --> 00:55:10,095
Speaker 3: So typically, you know, thousands of roofs are installed every year,

982
00:55:11,055 --> 00:55:14,655
Speaker 3: and it's unusual to have that fluttering sound saying that

983
00:55:14,855 --> 00:55:17,255
Speaker 3: I've I've had it on another building where we used

984
00:55:17,295 --> 00:55:20,935
Speaker 3: metal cladding on a as wall cladding, and it just

985
00:55:21,015 --> 00:55:22,975
Speaker 3: so happened that the way in which the winds sort

986
00:55:22,975 --> 00:55:25,095
Speaker 3: of came across the property hit a lower roof and

987
00:55:25,335 --> 00:55:27,815
Speaker 3: was directed up and there was a slight drumming in that.

988
00:55:28,015 --> 00:55:31,295
Speaker 3: Now that's it was intermittent and there were some things

989
00:55:31,335 --> 00:55:34,935
Speaker 3: we could do to mitigate it. But yeah, I think

990
00:55:34,975 --> 00:55:37,335
Speaker 3: at this early stage it's not something that you should

991
00:55:37,415 --> 00:55:41,255
Speaker 3: be that that should disturb you. I should be.

992
00:55:41,295 --> 00:55:43,175
Speaker 8: Fixed, okay.

993
00:55:44,735 --> 00:55:47,895
Speaker 3: And these things are never easy, you know, the discussions

994
00:55:47,935 --> 00:55:50,975
Speaker 3: are never easy, and sometimes the response is you know,

995
00:55:51,495 --> 00:55:53,215
Speaker 3: you're being a bit pedantic and all the rest of it.

996
00:55:53,295 --> 00:55:55,415
Speaker 3: But I think you've got a genuine concern, and so

997
00:55:55,935 --> 00:55:58,695
Speaker 3: i'd recommend stick to your guns and get it sorted

998
00:55:58,735 --> 00:56:04,135
Speaker 3: out the very best. Take care, Stephen. We'll take a

999
00:56:04,175 --> 00:56:07,335
Speaker 3: short break back in a moment, right as promised and

1000
00:56:07,815 --> 00:56:10,655
Speaker 3: almost bang on time. And that's that's me being tardy.

1001
00:56:11,295 --> 00:56:14,255
Speaker 3: Jay Sharples from Razine A very good morning to you.

1002
00:56:14,375 --> 00:56:16,855
Speaker 17: Jay, Good morning mate, how are you good?

1003
00:56:16,975 --> 00:56:18,775
Speaker 3: Good and nice to catch up with you on Thursday

1004
00:56:18,815 --> 00:56:21,575
Speaker 3: and Bryce. That was a rarity, all three of us together.

1005
00:56:21,775 --> 00:56:22,295
Speaker 7: It was great.

1006
00:56:24,815 --> 00:56:27,535
Speaker 3: It was a great event. And as you know well

1007
00:56:27,735 --> 00:56:29,775
Speaker 3: in the background because you could hear them working away,

1008
00:56:30,015 --> 00:56:33,775
Speaker 3: was the young or the nine Young Apprentices of the Year.

1009
00:56:35,095 --> 00:56:39,015
Speaker 3: So they did that practical during construct where you guys were,

1010
00:56:39,855 --> 00:56:43,455
Speaker 3: and then on the Friday night had the gala dinner,

1011
00:56:43,615 --> 00:56:47,695
Speaker 3: let's say, and one of those young apprentices, young man

1012
00:56:47,775 --> 00:56:51,215
Speaker 3: by the name of Hunter Moon, was appointed as the

1013
00:56:52,735 --> 00:56:57,375
Speaker 3: Young Apprentice of the Year. So outstanding, it's great, No, excellent, Yeah,

1014
00:56:57,415 --> 00:56:59,815
Speaker 3: it's good. And I think you know what I quite

1015
00:56:59,935 --> 00:57:02,455
Speaker 3: liked about it was the whole thing that you know,

1016
00:57:02,575 --> 00:57:06,375
Speaker 3: we do recognize excellence and that we do introduce some

1017
00:57:06,495 --> 00:57:09,215
Speaker 3: competition into being an apprentice. And you know, for that

1018
00:57:09,615 --> 00:57:13,535
Speaker 3: young person, and there there were nine there, eight males,

1019
00:57:13,615 --> 00:57:16,095
Speaker 3: one female. You know, they all get to say from

1020
00:57:16,175 --> 00:57:18,415
Speaker 3: here on, look, I made it through to the finals,

1021
00:57:18,455 --> 00:57:20,855
Speaker 3: and in some cases for him anyway, Hey, look I

1022
00:57:20,975 --> 00:57:23,335
Speaker 3: was Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty four, so it's.

1023
00:57:23,255 --> 00:57:24,855
Speaker 16: Great, that's excellent.

1024
00:57:25,255 --> 00:57:28,495
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely right, Oak. Now, we had a curious, curious

1025
00:57:28,615 --> 00:57:32,855
Speaker 3: question this morning around you know, like organic growth on

1026
00:57:33,255 --> 00:57:38,255
Speaker 3: exterior painted surfaces, particularly weatherboards, and people were calling through

1027
00:57:38,335 --> 00:57:41,375
Speaker 3: with it a couple of things. One was like insects,

1028
00:57:41,455 --> 00:57:45,055
Speaker 3: so moths in particular that tend to leave a casing

1029
00:57:45,175 --> 00:57:49,015
Speaker 3: seemingly that's incredibly hard to remove. And then suddenly we

1030
00:57:49,135 --> 00:57:53,415
Speaker 3: got talking about various funguses that are not particularly common

1031
00:57:53,495 --> 00:57:57,295
Speaker 3: but can adhere to exterior surfaces. So if you're about

1032
00:57:57,415 --> 00:58:00,615
Speaker 3: to do and we're heading into summer some exterior painting,

1033
00:58:01,055 --> 00:58:04,935
Speaker 3: where do we start, And as.

1034
00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:09,735
Speaker 17: Always we say treat with raze, moss and molecular It's

1035
00:58:10,695 --> 00:58:13,415
Speaker 17: it might take more than one sort of treatment to

1036
00:58:13,535 --> 00:58:16,455
Speaker 17: remove stuff. I mean, there's plenty of lichens and stuff

1037
00:58:16,535 --> 00:58:20,455
Speaker 17: that are very hard to remove, so it's really trying

1038
00:58:20,455 --> 00:58:23,015
Speaker 17: to kill it and remove it before you start painting.

1039
00:58:23,575 --> 00:58:25,735
Speaker 17: There really is no point sort of painting over the

1040
00:58:25,815 --> 00:58:27,975
Speaker 17: top of it. So the paint's only going to adhere

1041
00:58:28,055 --> 00:58:31,735
Speaker 17: to that. The lichen that's kind of going to be

1042
00:58:31,855 --> 00:58:35,495
Speaker 17: crumbly away on the surface or die and it's your

1043
00:58:35,535 --> 00:58:38,615
Speaker 17: paint will just break down in those areas, So it's

1044
00:58:38,735 --> 00:58:43,495
Speaker 17: really important to clean outside inside with razim moss and

1045
00:58:43,575 --> 00:58:46,735
Speaker 17: molecular The other big one is fly marks on the ceiling.

1046
00:58:46,935 --> 00:58:49,495
Speaker 17: Don't just think I'm going to cover it. Give it

1047
00:58:49,575 --> 00:58:51,695
Speaker 17: a clean first to remove it. I don't say, will

1048
00:58:51,775 --> 00:58:54,815
Speaker 17: bleed through. You spend all this time painting your ceilings

1049
00:58:54,935 --> 00:58:57,455
Speaker 17: and in the next week and see all those marks again.

1050
00:58:57,935 --> 00:59:00,295
Speaker 17: So you really need to use on those anyway, give

1051
00:59:00,335 --> 00:59:03,495
Speaker 17: them a good clean and then use an oil based primer.

1052
00:59:05,095 --> 00:59:09,495
Speaker 3: Oil based primers in those circumstances a because increasingly, you know,

1053
00:59:10,295 --> 00:59:13,895
Speaker 3: waterborne primers are great, quick dry and that sort of thing,

1054
00:59:13,935 --> 00:59:18,175
Speaker 3: but there's still sometimes a specific role for oil based.

1055
00:59:18,815 --> 00:59:21,695
Speaker 17: Yes, I mean, ideally you're cleaning it first to remove

1056
00:59:21,735 --> 00:59:25,135
Speaker 17: it if there's any sort of marks left. It's a

1057
00:59:25,215 --> 00:59:27,895
Speaker 17: mammal undercoats does a really good job of just locking

1058
00:59:27,975 --> 00:59:29,135
Speaker 17: that in and stopping.

1059
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:29,255
Speaker 5: It from blean.

1060
00:59:30,575 --> 00:59:32,455
Speaker 3: Just on the exterior cleaning, because we were talking about

1061
00:59:32,495 --> 00:59:34,655
Speaker 3: that earlier on the show as well, and you know

1062
00:59:34,735 --> 00:59:38,695
Speaker 3: people love whipping out the water blaster right, so, which

1063
00:59:38,815 --> 00:59:42,375
Speaker 3: is kind of okay but requires restraint in terms of

1064
00:59:42,975 --> 00:59:47,895
Speaker 3: if you're using the razine cleaner the housewash, how do

1065
00:59:47,975 --> 00:59:49,535
Speaker 3: you actually apply it to the surface.

1066
00:59:50,215 --> 00:59:52,415
Speaker 17: I say most people get the water blaster out and

1067
00:59:52,495 --> 00:59:55,895
Speaker 17: think that's sufficient. But I know from myself from cleaning

1068
00:59:55,975 --> 00:59:58,575
Speaker 17: the car, if you don't agitate the surface and use

1069
00:59:58,655 --> 01:00:01,375
Speaker 17: some sort of cleaner, yes, the water blaster doesn't actually

1070
01:00:01,455 --> 01:00:04,815
Speaker 17: remove all those masks. It's exactly the same one your

1071
01:00:04,815 --> 01:00:08,215
Speaker 17: painted surface. If you don't move all the surface contaminants,

1072
01:00:08,415 --> 01:00:10,935
Speaker 17: your new coats of pain aren't going to adhere as well.

1073
01:00:11,775 --> 01:00:13,095
Speaker 7: So I know.

1074
01:00:14,855 --> 01:00:18,295
Speaker 17: Water blasts have like a soft brush you can attach,

1075
01:00:18,575 --> 01:00:20,775
Speaker 17: which you can do low pressure and kind of scrub

1076
01:00:20,855 --> 01:00:24,415
Speaker 17: on the cleaner. Yep, I've got one of those. I've

1077
01:00:24,455 --> 01:00:28,575
Speaker 17: got an extendable pole that connects to the hose with

1078
01:00:28,695 --> 01:00:31,495
Speaker 17: a soft bristle brush on the end, and I've got

1079
01:00:31,575 --> 01:00:34,215
Speaker 17: a bucket and make the solution of the razine pain

1080
01:00:34,255 --> 01:00:37,135
Speaker 17: prepper and house wash and water up and scrub it on.

1081
01:00:38,415 --> 01:00:38,615
Speaker 18: Right.

1082
01:00:39,215 --> 01:00:43,815
Speaker 3: Okay, So there, so you've got you make up your solution,

1083
01:00:44,015 --> 01:00:46,375
Speaker 3: You get the dilution rate right into a bucket, then

1084
01:00:46,415 --> 01:00:48,615
Speaker 3: you dip the heat of the brush into there and

1085
01:00:48,735 --> 01:00:51,135
Speaker 3: then apply that so you're getting it. Do you know,

1086
01:00:51,495 --> 01:00:53,655
Speaker 3: does anyone ever spray it on, like with a backpeck

1087
01:00:53,695 --> 01:00:54,615
Speaker 3: spray or something like that.

1088
01:00:55,895 --> 01:00:58,735
Speaker 17: Uh, yes, I suppose you can do, but it's it's

1089
01:00:58,775 --> 01:01:00,855
Speaker 17: really you can spread it all long, but you still

1090
01:01:00,895 --> 01:01:05,615
Speaker 17: need to agitate the surface, right, Okay, saying like you

1091
01:01:05,655 --> 01:01:09,015
Speaker 17: could spray the subd on the car's probably the easiest ones.

1092
01:01:09,135 --> 01:01:12,095
Speaker 17: Most people clean their car once or twice the week

1093
01:01:12,215 --> 01:01:16,295
Speaker 17: or month, So think about when you're doing that. It's

1094
01:01:16,455 --> 01:01:18,935
Speaker 17: any other surface you're cleaning is exactly the same. Like,

1095
01:01:19,095 --> 01:01:21,495
Speaker 17: you can't just spread it on, leave it and then

1096
01:01:21,695 --> 01:01:23,775
Speaker 17: wash it off because you're just going to have marks

1097
01:01:23,815 --> 01:01:26,815
Speaker 17: and runs and leave lots behind. You really need to

1098
01:01:26,815 --> 01:01:30,015
Speaker 17: get that sponge out or brush out. Yeah, agitate the

1099
01:01:30,095 --> 01:01:32,855
Speaker 17: surface and make sure you clean everything off and then

1100
01:01:33,015 --> 01:01:33,895
Speaker 17: wash it down afterwards.

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01:01:34,295 --> 01:01:35,655
Speaker 3: It sounds like a bit of elbow grisse.

1102
01:01:35,695 --> 01:01:35,815
Speaker 7: You know.

1103
01:01:35,935 --> 01:01:39,815
Speaker 3: You can actually get like cordless brushes now that editate,

1104
01:01:39,975 --> 01:01:43,135
Speaker 3: so you just but yeah, anyway, we'll talk about that

1105
01:01:43,215 --> 01:01:45,295
Speaker 3: some other time. I might have to sort one out

1106
01:01:45,295 --> 01:01:47,455
Speaker 3: for you, right Yoh, let's rip into a couple of

1107
01:01:47,575 --> 01:01:52,455
Speaker 3: text messages. Actually, first one email recently someone has recently

1108
01:01:52,575 --> 01:01:56,895
Speaker 3: bought a mid nineties stucco pibble plaster clad house and

1109
01:01:56,975 --> 01:02:00,655
Speaker 3: napier doing some small repairs to the plaster. Can't seem

1110
01:02:00,735 --> 01:02:03,095
Speaker 3: to get the color match right, so they've gone out.

1111
01:02:03,135 --> 01:02:05,135
Speaker 3: They bought a number of test spots, but not quite

1112
01:02:05,215 --> 01:02:08,895
Speaker 3: getting the color right. Is there a sort of definitive

1113
01:02:08,975 --> 01:02:11,855
Speaker 3: way to get a color match if you can't use

1114
01:02:11,935 --> 01:02:13,935
Speaker 3: the swatches or test pots?

1115
01:02:15,495 --> 01:02:17,655
Speaker 17: It's a bit hard on textured surfaces.

1116
01:02:17,815 --> 01:02:18,015
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1117
01:02:18,775 --> 01:02:21,655
Speaker 17: A lot of the time, the same paint has been

1118
01:02:21,775 --> 01:02:25,255
Speaker 17: used on the dam pipes and the clips that hold

1119
01:02:25,295 --> 01:02:28,215
Speaker 17: the damn pipes on, which are really easy to remove,

1120
01:02:28,855 --> 01:02:31,055
Speaker 17: So you could take one of those off into local

1121
01:02:31,175 --> 01:02:33,495
Speaker 17: razine and they might be able to do a better

1122
01:02:34,255 --> 01:02:38,055
Speaker 17: job getting closer with the color. It's usually the easiest

1123
01:02:38,095 --> 01:02:40,015
Speaker 17: way to do it, especially on a textured surface.

1124
01:02:40,335 --> 01:02:45,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, oh that's brilliant now. Another one is a

1125
01:02:45,215 --> 01:02:49,095
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties house that's got what they're calling vibra pact blocks,

1126
01:02:49,135 --> 01:02:51,695
Speaker 3: so just standard masonry blocks. The garage is painted on

1127
01:02:51,735 --> 01:02:54,575
Speaker 3: the inside, but it's blistering and flaking. Now they are

1128
01:02:54,655 --> 01:02:57,175
Speaker 3: aware that maybe there's an issue with some moisture, like

1129
01:02:57,295 --> 01:03:00,575
Speaker 3: the outside ground level is piled up against the block work.

1130
01:03:01,815 --> 01:03:05,575
Speaker 3: If they were going to paint it, what's the well

1131
01:03:05,895 --> 01:03:07,135
Speaker 3: should they painted.

1132
01:03:07,295 --> 01:03:11,015
Speaker 17: Or the thing is is it sort of bubbling and

1133
01:03:11,055 --> 01:03:14,015
Speaker 17: blistering on the inside. There's already a coating on and

1134
01:03:14,095 --> 01:03:17,735
Speaker 17: it's kind of the effhuorescence causing issues, which is the

1135
01:03:17,815 --> 01:03:22,655
Speaker 17: moisture coming through the block If you're in that situation. Obviously,

1136
01:03:22,695 --> 01:03:26,455
Speaker 17: if it's soil, it's another big job. It's even if

1137
01:03:26,495 --> 01:03:30,415
Speaker 17: it's concrete pathways, you really, ideally that should be sort

1138
01:03:30,455 --> 01:03:34,455
Speaker 17: of tank lined before it gets back filled. It might

1139
01:03:34,495 --> 01:03:36,175
Speaker 17: have been it might have been damaged, it might have

1140
01:03:36,215 --> 01:03:39,295
Speaker 17: been done a long time ago and the coating damaged

1141
01:03:39,335 --> 01:03:42,455
Speaker 17: in some way, and that's why there's moisture coming through. Ideally,

1142
01:03:42,615 --> 01:03:45,495
Speaker 17: if you can't, you want to locate the point of

1143
01:03:45,575 --> 01:03:49,055
Speaker 17: water ingress and eliminate it. So that sort of situation,

1144
01:03:49,255 --> 01:03:52,255
Speaker 17: you really want to dig out the outside, let it

1145
01:03:52,375 --> 01:03:56,295
Speaker 17: dry out, seal it all up, and then put the

1146
01:03:56,615 --> 01:03:59,455
Speaker 17: earth or pathway or whatever it is back. Garden beds

1147
01:03:59,535 --> 01:04:02,655
Speaker 17: is another big one before sort of attacking the inside.

1148
01:04:03,215 --> 01:04:06,055
Speaker 17: If that really isn't possible and you just want to

1149
01:04:06,295 --> 01:04:08,855
Speaker 17: id up the inside, it's a case of removing all

1150
01:04:08,895 --> 01:04:14,215
Speaker 17: the loose flaky material ceiling with raisine shore seal, and

1151
01:04:14,335 --> 01:04:17,255
Speaker 17: then you can repaint, but it will be an ongo

1152
01:04:17,335 --> 01:04:19,695
Speaker 17: an issue. You've still got that moisture getting.

1153
01:04:19,535 --> 01:04:22,495
Speaker 3: In from somewhere yep, and you can't expect the paint

1154
01:04:22,535 --> 01:04:27,735
Speaker 3: to hold back the moisture. Basically, okay, right, help please.

1155
01:04:27,895 --> 01:04:32,535
Speaker 3: I have removed wallpaper, shore sealed, plastered prime to top coats.

1156
01:04:33,015 --> 01:04:36,455
Speaker 3: All of the corners have come out late later, so

1157
01:04:36,575 --> 01:04:40,255
Speaker 3: I repainted all of the corners. Now they're worse. What's

1158
01:04:40,295 --> 01:04:41,455
Speaker 3: going on for Karen there?

1159
01:04:43,895 --> 01:04:45,855
Speaker 17: It's kind of without seeing that one, it's a bit

1160
01:04:45,935 --> 01:04:49,455
Speaker 17: hard a lot of the time. The first thing that

1161
01:04:49,655 --> 01:04:58,495
Speaker 17: jumps to my mind isn't it's where you get a

1162
01:04:59,055 --> 01:05:01,455
Speaker 17: lot of the time you cut in with a brush

1163
01:05:01,535 --> 01:05:03,215
Speaker 17: and you end up getting more paint on than you

1164
01:05:03,335 --> 01:05:07,775
Speaker 17: do with the roller. Yes, it's you need to get

1165
01:05:07,895 --> 01:05:10,855
Speaker 17: more paint on with the role that's a uniform. If

1166
01:05:10,935 --> 01:05:13,855
Speaker 17: it's not sort of that situation and it's kind of

1167
01:05:13,935 --> 01:05:19,295
Speaker 17: lighter in the corners, whether if it's been you said, sealed,

1168
01:05:19,375 --> 01:05:22,735
Speaker 17: then plastered and then sealed and painted, could just be

1169
01:05:22,975 --> 01:05:26,775
Speaker 17: where that ceiler is. If it's slightly lower in those

1170
01:05:26,935 --> 01:05:30,375
Speaker 17: corner areas and there's light coming through it might just

1171
01:05:30,495 --> 01:05:33,815
Speaker 17: look lighter due to the clinical light that's coming into

1172
01:05:33,855 --> 01:05:38,335
Speaker 17: the room, right, But depending on the area of the country,

1173
01:05:38,375 --> 01:05:41,015
Speaker 17: and maybe take some pictures into your local color shop

1174
01:05:42,055 --> 01:05:44,135
Speaker 17: or see if we can get somebody to come out

1175
01:05:44,175 --> 01:05:47,575
Speaker 17: and have a look. It's a bit hard to kind

1176
01:05:47,575 --> 01:05:50,415
Speaker 17: of a light issue to discuss on the phones. A

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01:05:50,455 --> 01:05:51,855
Speaker 17: little bits up.

1178
01:05:52,615 --> 01:05:55,135
Speaker 3: That sort of issue around picture framing, you know when we.

1179
01:05:55,295 --> 01:05:59,815
Speaker 17: Take that looking more than Me picture framing.

1180
01:06:00,055 --> 01:06:01,895
Speaker 3: We did that little video the other day, so we're

1181
01:06:01,935 --> 01:06:04,135
Speaker 3: talking about it that. You know, if you as you're

1182
01:06:04,175 --> 01:06:06,255
Speaker 3: cutting and if you go into it, you start painting

1183
01:06:06,415 --> 01:06:09,175
Speaker 3: room and you go around your cutter and everywhere, and

1184
01:06:09,415 --> 01:06:12,495
Speaker 3: then you grab your roller and start painting. Although the

1185
01:06:12,615 --> 01:06:14,575
Speaker 3: area that you first started and is going to be

1186
01:06:14,655 --> 01:06:15,695
Speaker 3: bone dry, isn't.

1187
01:06:15,495 --> 01:06:18,535
Speaker 17: It, So you really want to keep that wet edge

1188
01:06:19,575 --> 01:06:20,375
Speaker 17: blending together.

1189
01:06:20,935 --> 01:06:21,655
Speaker 8: It's also.

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01:06:23,175 --> 01:06:25,735
Speaker 17: If you can roll up as close as possible to

1191
01:06:26,255 --> 01:06:28,695
Speaker 17: the ceiling or the edge so you don't end up

1192
01:06:28,735 --> 01:06:31,815
Speaker 17: with like a much bigger brush line. If you use

1193
01:06:32,855 --> 01:06:35,095
Speaker 17: seventy five hundred mil brush and you're coming a long

1194
01:06:35,135 --> 01:06:37,095
Speaker 17: way off the edge and you're only rolling up to that,

1195
01:06:37,935 --> 01:06:40,055
Speaker 17: you're going to have the brush marks going one way

1196
01:06:40,135 --> 01:06:42,695
Speaker 17: and the roller lines going another and again it just

1197
01:06:42,815 --> 01:06:47,175
Speaker 17: comes down to the lighting highlights those kind of imperfections. Yes,

1198
01:06:47,655 --> 01:06:50,015
Speaker 17: but it's like I said, the picture framing, which is

1199
01:06:50,055 --> 01:06:53,095
Speaker 17: the word I was trying to get out. Really, if

1200
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:55,295
Speaker 17: you want to keep a wet edge, if it's a

1201
01:06:55,335 --> 01:06:59,135
Speaker 17: big room, maybe get a couple of people to help,

1202
01:06:59,215 --> 01:07:02,495
Speaker 17: so one's cutting in, one's rolling, or only cut in

1203
01:07:02,695 --> 01:07:05,135
Speaker 17: so far and then roll and then move on to

1204
01:07:05,215 --> 01:07:05,815
Speaker 17: the next wall.

1205
01:07:06,855 --> 01:07:07,255
Speaker 3: Brilliant.

1206
01:07:07,335 --> 01:07:10,015
Speaker 17: Also, we're coming into the time of year. Razine hot

1207
01:07:10,095 --> 01:07:12,815
Speaker 17: weather additive just slows down the dry time, increases the

1208
01:07:12,855 --> 01:07:15,495
Speaker 17: flow of the paint and just helps with those situations.

1209
01:07:15,735 --> 01:07:18,695
Speaker 3: Yeah, and never paint and direct sunlight. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1210
01:07:19,575 --> 01:07:21,535
Speaker 3: last one for you. This is a great one. Actually,

1211
01:07:22,055 --> 01:07:24,175
Speaker 3: morning pick regarding the cleaning of the exterior of the

1212
01:07:24,215 --> 01:07:26,895
Speaker 3: house with say the razine cleaner. Do I need to

1213
01:07:27,055 --> 01:07:30,495
Speaker 3: protect my new Vitex decking or is it safe for

1214
01:07:30,575 --> 01:07:31,975
Speaker 3: the cleaner to drop onto it?

1215
01:07:33,815 --> 01:07:37,735
Speaker 17: Well, the razim what's the mole killer is sort of

1216
01:07:38,615 --> 01:07:42,215
Speaker 17: sodium hyperchloride or sort of bleach based cleaner. Yes, so

1217
01:07:42,415 --> 01:07:46,495
Speaker 17: you really want to protect anything around it for the decking.

1218
01:07:46,975 --> 01:07:50,335
Speaker 17: A lot of time I'd wet the area down first,

1219
01:07:50,495 --> 01:07:53,175
Speaker 17: just so anything that goes on kind of gets diluted

1220
01:07:53,215 --> 01:07:57,255
Speaker 17: a bit, and it's not going directly onto a dry deck.

1221
01:07:57,895 --> 01:08:00,335
Speaker 17: But anything you can do to protect the areas that

1222
01:08:00,415 --> 01:08:02,655
Speaker 17: you don't want to get any of the clean or

1223
01:08:02,775 --> 01:08:07,575
Speaker 17: get damaged at all. Gardens, plants, Yeah, you see the

1224
01:08:07,575 --> 01:08:09,255
Speaker 17: big thing with the sort of cleaners.

1225
01:08:10,615 --> 01:08:11,975
Speaker 3: You know, a little while ago I talked to you

1226
01:08:12,015 --> 01:08:15,255
Speaker 3: about trying to get some mold growth off the bathroom

1227
01:08:15,335 --> 01:08:17,735
Speaker 3: ceiling and a property that I look after, and so

1228
01:08:18,455 --> 01:08:21,895
Speaker 3: I got the proper you know, house interior wash and

1229
01:08:21,975 --> 01:08:23,895
Speaker 3: prep and mold keller and that sort of thing, and

1230
01:08:24,015 --> 01:08:28,175
Speaker 3: I applied lots of it and quite vigorously. And I

1231
01:08:28,255 --> 01:08:30,375
Speaker 3: did notice that the old shirt that I'd been wearing

1232
01:08:30,455 --> 01:08:32,895
Speaker 3: has got marks all over it, So you do have

1233
01:08:32,975 --> 01:08:36,455
Speaker 3: to be a bit careful. It's very effective, like.

1234
01:08:37,135 --> 01:08:39,895
Speaker 17: Put it in the backpack spread and it might drip

1235
01:08:39,975 --> 01:08:42,815
Speaker 17: on the T shirt, just like if you're doing jobs

1236
01:08:43,095 --> 01:08:46,055
Speaker 17: around the house with painting, cleaners, wear old clothes or

1237
01:08:46,055 --> 01:08:47,775
Speaker 17: stuff you don't mind I forget damaged.

1238
01:08:48,335 --> 01:08:51,735
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, all right, great advice as always, mate, Thank

1239
01:08:51,775 --> 01:08:55,175
Speaker 3: you very much, and enjoy the day, enjoy the sunshine,

1240
01:08:55,215 --> 01:08:56,775
Speaker 3: and we'll we'll talk again soon.

1241
01:08:57,375 --> 01:08:59,295
Speaker 17: Sounds good. Thank you, Thank you.

1242
01:08:59,375 --> 01:09:01,855
Speaker 3: All of this to you, Jay, Jay our painting expert

1243
01:09:01,975 --> 01:09:04,655
Speaker 3: from Razine, and great advice that he mentioned earlier. You know,

1244
01:09:04,695 --> 01:09:07,255
Speaker 3: if you're struggling to find the color match and so on,

1245
01:09:07,575 --> 01:09:10,095
Speaker 3: maybe bring the sample into the store and there'll be

1246
01:09:10,175 --> 01:09:12,055
Speaker 3: someone with the experience who'll be able to help you

1247
01:09:12,175 --> 01:09:15,455
Speaker 3: out with that as well. Great advice always and great

1248
01:09:15,495 --> 01:09:18,575
Speaker 3: advice in store at your local Razine color shop. Your

1249
01:09:18,655 --> 01:09:20,495
Speaker 3: news Talks here, b we'll take a short break. We'll

1250
01:09:20,495 --> 01:09:23,055
Speaker 3: be back with your calls right up till eight o'clock

1251
01:09:23,135 --> 01:09:25,455
Speaker 3: in the next hour. Of course, the red climb passed

1252
01:09:25,495 --> 01:09:27,575
Speaker 3: will join us. Looking forward to catching up with him.

1253
01:09:27,775 --> 01:09:30,575
Speaker 3: And I want to know more about this artillery fungus.

1254
01:09:31,015 --> 01:09:32,775
Speaker 3: It's got to be one of the best names out there.

1255
01:09:33,055 --> 01:09:34,855
Speaker 3: Back in your news Talks, he'd be in a quick

1256
01:09:34,895 --> 01:09:38,735
Speaker 3: painting question from you. Gary, Good morning, Hi morning.

1257
01:09:40,655 --> 01:09:43,895
Speaker 18: I was hanging on that conversation with Jay because it's

1258
01:09:43,935 --> 01:09:45,135
Speaker 18: exactly there that I'm.

1259
01:09:45,815 --> 01:09:46,135
Speaker 9: Go for it.

1260
01:09:46,375 --> 01:09:47,255
Speaker 3: I'm sure I can now.

1261
01:09:49,095 --> 01:09:52,975
Speaker 8: So so we South Coast, well, I can at the

1262
01:09:53,015 --> 01:09:56,895
Speaker 8: bottom levels, you know, usually sort of reinforced steel block,

1263
01:09:57,975 --> 01:10:01,735
Speaker 8: but it's got to so render over it. And we've

1264
01:10:01,775 --> 01:10:05,095
Speaker 8: been here about ten years. It's it's kind of cantileave

1265
01:10:05,135 --> 01:10:07,775
Speaker 8: it out and it's not people, so how I haven't

1266
01:10:07,815 --> 01:10:08,055
Speaker 8: got to.

1267
01:10:08,135 --> 01:10:08,655
Speaker 17: It over time.

1268
01:10:08,735 --> 01:10:10,495
Speaker 18: And so now there's quite a lot of mold and

1269
01:10:11,295 --> 01:10:14,775
Speaker 18: like and on the external window leads as well, that

1270
01:10:14,935 --> 01:10:19,055
Speaker 18: nasty sort of yellow orangey one. So so we're needing

1271
01:10:19,135 --> 01:10:23,495
Speaker 18: to paint, you know, tie up and paint the ex

1272
01:10:23,895 --> 01:10:27,615
Speaker 18: stow render. So so I guess from talking to the

1273
01:10:27,655 --> 01:10:30,495
Speaker 18: hearing about Jay, I mean that was the mold sounds

1274
01:10:30,575 --> 01:10:35,895
Speaker 18: like a part of the process. And but you know,

1275
01:10:35,975 --> 01:10:38,095
Speaker 18: it's it's it's it's a render, so it's it's not

1276
01:10:38,175 --> 01:10:38,775
Speaker 18: a coarse one.

1277
01:10:38,815 --> 01:10:39,535
Speaker 8: It's a really sort of.

1278
01:10:39,535 --> 01:10:42,815
Speaker 3: Fine like what they call a sponge finishing with a

1279
01:10:43,255 --> 01:10:44,775
Speaker 3: trailed on and sponge finished.

1280
01:10:44,855 --> 01:10:47,455
Speaker 18: Yeah yeah, yeah, but you wouldn't sort of have a

1281
01:10:47,495 --> 01:10:51,335
Speaker 18: go at it with a water blasts or anything because no, no, no.

1282
01:10:51,495 --> 01:10:55,335
Speaker 3: Not at all. And I mean if it's difficult access

1283
01:10:55,375 --> 01:10:57,455
Speaker 3: and sign you may have to get some scaffolding obviously

1284
01:10:57,575 --> 01:10:59,215
Speaker 3: to get up there because you want to take a

1285
01:10:59,255 --> 01:11:03,495
Speaker 3: bit of time. So and most likely it'll be multiple

1286
01:11:03,615 --> 01:11:08,135
Speaker 3: applications of the cleaner, so sort of an inn shall clean, agitate, rinse,

1287
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Speaker 3: leave it for a little while, do it again and

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01:11:11,215 --> 01:11:15,615
Speaker 3: be really confident that the treatment that you've used has

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01:11:15,775 --> 01:11:18,415
Speaker 3: killed any of that organic material it's on the surface

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01:11:18,495 --> 01:11:21,975
Speaker 3: of the paint. It might be worth getting some advice

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Speaker 3: as to whether or not you need to apply if

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01:11:25,375 --> 01:11:28,295
Speaker 3: typically you can overcoat within a certain period of time,

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01:11:28,375 --> 01:11:31,855
Speaker 3: but if that time has extended out too long there

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01:11:31,935 --> 01:11:35,735
Speaker 3: might be a benefit. And then applying a primer that

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01:11:35,855 --> 01:11:38,815
Speaker 3: will key into the surface so that your top coated

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01:11:38,855 --> 01:11:41,415
Speaker 3: hair is properly that would be worth.

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Speaker 18: Actually, yeah, and then from what when Jay was talking

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Speaker 18: about the based prime so apply.

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Speaker 3: Because no, possibly not. I mean, I know, for example,

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Speaker 3: you will often use pigmented seala on beer masonry. The

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01:11:59,455 --> 01:12:02,495
Speaker 3: fact that's already been coated and has you know, so

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01:12:02,575 --> 01:12:05,455
Speaker 3: you've got the masonry or the semititious material, then you've

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01:12:05,495 --> 01:12:07,775
Speaker 3: got a paint finish, and now you're applying over the top.

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Speaker 3: Certainly you could go back to the manufacturers. You could

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01:12:11,815 --> 01:12:16,135
Speaker 3: go to Razine Construction and see because they have similar products,

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01:12:16,175 --> 01:12:17,855
Speaker 3: they might be able to give you some advice on that.

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Speaker 3: But I would highly recommend getting some advice from either

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01:12:23,455 --> 01:12:25,975
Speaker 3: the manufacturer or someone who's really experienced in it, just

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01:12:26,015 --> 01:12:28,015
Speaker 3: to make sure that you're using the right system and

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01:12:28,135 --> 01:12:34,575
Speaker 3: that you're not inadvertently having compatibility issues that is going

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Speaker 3: to cause a paint failure in the future.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, that's why.

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Speaker 18: Called talking to you.

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Speaker 3: There's a bit of work to do.

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Speaker 18: I mean, it's going to be a cheery thicker I

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01:12:46,295 --> 01:12:49,215
Speaker 18: think for some of it because it's kind of vehicle

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01:12:49,295 --> 01:12:51,735
Speaker 18: axis too at the sione that's can't leave it out. Wow,

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01:12:51,935 --> 01:12:56,175
Speaker 18: okay under the house, you know sort of, so you

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01:12:56,335 --> 01:12:59,495
Speaker 18: want to be able to move it as well. Okay,

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Speaker 18: but we've got the original plans too, so there's definitely

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Speaker 18: a color code, so we should a.

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Speaker 3: Well, that'll that'll help. Good luck take care of it there.

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01:13:08,935 --> 01:13:11,575
Speaker 3: All right, all the this see, we're going to take

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Speaker 3: another break and then Maverick, we'll be talking to you

1325
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Speaker 3: in just a moment. Right. I mentioned Jay, our painting expert.

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01:13:18,975 --> 01:13:21,575
Speaker 3: We were both at Construct on Thursday, which was also

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Speaker 3: the venue for the practical challenge for the Apprentice of

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Speaker 3: the Year. This is the carpentry Apprentice of the Year.

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Speaker 3: And I mentioned I've went to the gala dinner was

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01:13:32,695 --> 01:13:36,295
Speaker 3: introduced to the young man Hunter who is the Apprentice

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Speaker 3: of the Year. We'll actually get him on the show

1332
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Speaker 3: next week and talk to him about what he's doing

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01:13:40,135 --> 01:13:42,375
Speaker 3: and what he hopes to do in the future. Outstanding

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Speaker 3: young man. Actually, all of the people that were there

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01:13:45,775 --> 01:13:48,095
Speaker 3: were you know, we often get that sort of vision

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Speaker 3: of maybe young people and we tune into the news

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01:13:50,735 --> 01:13:53,015
Speaker 3: so much and so on, and it can get a

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Speaker 3: bit doubt disheartening. Let's say, I'll tell you what. Everyone

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Speaker 3: that I saw up on that stage and competing eight men,

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Speaker 3: one young woman just fantastic young people. You know the

1341
01:14:04,895 --> 01:14:06,895
Speaker 3: fact that they've chosen to be carpenter as that sets

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Speaker 3: them above everybody else anyway, But they were just fantastic.

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01:14:11,375 --> 01:14:13,255
Speaker 3: And then they had some past winners as well in

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01:14:13,335 --> 01:14:15,575
Speaker 3: regional finalists and that who got up to talk about

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01:14:15,615 --> 01:14:18,295
Speaker 3: where they'd gone to, you know, in their careers and

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01:14:18,415 --> 01:14:25,295
Speaker 3: again motivated, enthusiastic, engaged, active, you know, just fantastic to

1347
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Speaker 3: see young people like that getting a little bit of attention,

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Speaker 3: which I thought was fantastic, Right, Maverick, talk to me, Hello.

1349
01:14:34,695 --> 01:14:35,575
Speaker 9: Hello, can you hear me?

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01:14:35,815 --> 01:14:36,815
Speaker 3: I sure can go for it.

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Speaker 9: Okay, I've got a good mate down south of Auckland.

1352
01:14:40,935 --> 01:14:43,495
Speaker 9: I can't tell you where as well, south of Auckland,

1353
01:14:44,295 --> 01:14:48,055
Speaker 9: and about ten years ago, he bought a property beer

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01:14:48,175 --> 01:14:51,935
Speaker 9: Land except for an old wolfshed and planted out with

1355
01:14:52,375 --> 01:14:55,535
Speaker 9: three other fruit trees. He's an ecologist, prima closure guy

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01:14:56,175 --> 01:15:00,655
Speaker 9: and also a lanscape architect and very clever guy. So

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01:15:00,775 --> 01:15:06,855
Speaker 9: he converted the woolshed and into a well for his

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01:15:07,015 --> 01:15:11,615
Speaker 9: Family's got a beautiful white and three young daughters and

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01:15:12,455 --> 01:15:14,735
Speaker 9: did a stunning job. It's only fifty square meters, but

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01:15:15,935 --> 01:15:19,735
Speaker 9: he's worked out space savings, et cetera. And all the

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01:15:19,855 --> 01:15:25,375
Speaker 9: time he approached council to get compliance, but for whatever reason,

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01:15:26,175 --> 01:15:28,895
Speaker 9: they kept changing the rules and after years and years

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01:15:28,935 --> 01:15:31,775
Speaker 9: and years of trying, he gave up and told him

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01:15:31,815 --> 01:15:35,295
Speaker 9: never to cast a shadow on his property again, which

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01:15:35,415 --> 01:15:39,335
Speaker 9: was a mistake in hindfight. Was now the council. After

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01:15:39,535 --> 01:15:42,415
Speaker 9: years and years of fighting them and him fighting back

1367
01:15:42,855 --> 01:15:46,815
Speaker 9: with interest, they've got a court order from the local

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01:15:46,895 --> 01:15:49,055
Speaker 9: district court to demolish his house.

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01:15:52,335 --> 01:15:55,295
Speaker 3: At the very beginning of that process, did he get

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01:15:55,295 --> 01:16:00,295
Speaker 3: a building consent for the conversion of effectively a farm

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01:16:00,375 --> 01:16:02,615
Speaker 3: building into a habitable space into a home.

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Speaker 9: I honestly don't know, Pete, I don't know all right.

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01:16:09,415 --> 01:16:11,255
Speaker 3: There could be a couple of things going on. One

1374
01:16:11,295 --> 01:16:14,455
Speaker 3: of them is that he didn't and maybe he got

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01:16:14,495 --> 01:16:16,535
Speaker 3: some advice that he didn't need to get a building

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01:16:16,575 --> 01:16:19,135
Speaker 3: consent for that. If it's work, it's been done in

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01:16:19,175 --> 01:16:22,575
Speaker 3: the last twenty twenty five years. It has always required

1378
01:16:22,575 --> 01:16:25,055
Speaker 3: a building consent. So if he went ahead and did

1379
01:16:25,135 --> 01:16:28,735
Speaker 3: the conversion and didn't get a building consent, then yeah,

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01:16:28,775 --> 01:16:30,935
Speaker 3: the building is going to be deemed to be non

1381
01:16:31,015 --> 01:16:35,055
Speaker 3: compliant unless he can prove a certificate of acceptance. But

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01:16:35,175 --> 01:16:39,055
Speaker 3: the burden of proof for that is nowadays equal to

1383
01:16:39,175 --> 01:16:42,695
Speaker 3: your building consent, and he would have to prove compliance

1384
01:16:42,735 --> 01:16:46,495
Speaker 3: with a building code for you know, just a myriad

1385
01:16:46,535 --> 01:16:49,535
Speaker 3: of things. And if he's dug his toes in with

1386
01:16:49,735 --> 01:16:52,695
Speaker 3: counsel and doesn't want to play that game, then and

1387
01:16:53,135 --> 01:16:55,655
Speaker 3: he's managed to get offside with counsel, which sounds like

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01:16:55,735 --> 01:16:58,895
Speaker 3: he has, then counsel will push for an enforcement and

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01:16:58,975 --> 01:17:01,695
Speaker 3: say you can't live in that dwelling and that dwell

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01:17:01,775 --> 01:17:04,775
Speaker 3: and because it's unlikely that you'll move out of it

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01:17:04,855 --> 01:17:08,775
Speaker 3: and not go back into it, where going to push hard. Personally,

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01:17:09,135 --> 01:17:11,815
Speaker 3: I think it's a tremendous waste of time and energy

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01:17:11,895 --> 01:17:15,815
Speaker 3: for counsel to be pursuing this, and it would have

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01:17:15,895 --> 01:17:19,095
Speaker 3: cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees. So

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01:17:19,215 --> 01:17:22,615
Speaker 3: I don't like to see our ratepayers money being spent

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01:17:22,695 --> 01:17:24,895
Speaker 3: on this sort of thing. But it would seem that,

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01:17:25,295 --> 01:17:28,735
Speaker 3: you know, let's assume that counsel are being lawful and

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01:17:28,935 --> 01:17:31,935
Speaker 3: that somewhere along the line, unfortunately what he's done has

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01:17:32,055 --> 01:17:33,255
Speaker 3: been unlawful.

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Speaker 9: And he's applied to a CoA over a year ago

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01:17:38,255 --> 01:17:42,575
Speaker 9: and they refuse to accept his submission. They don't want

1402
01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:46,215
Speaker 9: to know that they've got a vendetta against them because

1403
01:17:46,415 --> 01:17:47,495
Speaker 9: he's one of these guys.

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01:17:47,375 --> 01:17:51,655
Speaker 3: That, yeah, and look good on him for standing up

1405
01:17:51,695 --> 01:17:54,375
Speaker 3: to the man, and you know, I'm all for that, right,

1406
01:17:54,975 --> 01:17:58,655
Speaker 3: but you know, he's also got to prove compliance. Now,

1407
01:17:58,695 --> 01:18:03,455
Speaker 3: if counsel decide that they won't accept his submission, then

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01:18:03,535 --> 01:18:06,455
Speaker 3: perhaps he needs to get some advice from some one

1409
01:18:06,495 --> 01:18:08,895
Speaker 3: who will go into bat for him. So maybe a

1410
01:18:08,935 --> 01:18:12,535
Speaker 3: building surveyor or a building scientist who can then argue

1411
01:18:12,655 --> 01:18:15,055
Speaker 3: on his behalf. If he's just said to them, hey, look,

1412
01:18:15,095 --> 01:18:17,855
Speaker 3: the building's fine, give me a CEO A. They're not

1413
01:18:17,935 --> 01:18:20,255
Speaker 3: going to do that. But if he can prove compliance,

1414
01:18:20,455 --> 01:18:23,455
Speaker 3: and then you know, if if counsel and look, councils

1415
01:18:23,535 --> 01:18:27,015
Speaker 3: can be unreasonable right, and councils have been challenged by

1416
01:18:27,095 --> 01:18:31,095
Speaker 3: people who have got determinations from himby and have been

1417
01:18:31,175 --> 01:18:34,815
Speaker 3: found to have acted incorrectly. So he could go down

1418
01:18:34,855 --> 01:18:38,375
Speaker 3: that path, but he needs to then get you know,

1419
01:18:38,855 --> 01:18:42,175
Speaker 3: a building expert, like a surveyor on his side to

1420
01:18:42,375 --> 01:18:43,255
Speaker 3: help with that battle.

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01:18:44,895 --> 01:18:48,975
Speaker 9: The problem is they will not accept any submission from

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01:18:49,055 --> 01:18:56,375
Speaker 9: them whatsoever. It's offered every possibility to the Delah.

1423
01:18:56,575 --> 01:18:57,535
Speaker 3: That sounds unreasonable.

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01:18:58,895 --> 01:19:04,135
Speaker 9: Yeah, totally, and he is stressed for the MAXI is

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01:19:04,135 --> 01:19:04,935
Speaker 9: a bloody good guy.

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01:19:05,135 --> 01:19:10,295
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I do just quickly because we're going to

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01:19:10,335 --> 01:19:12,815
Speaker 3: run into the news. You know, maybe it's worth talking

1428
01:19:12,895 --> 01:19:18,295
Speaker 3: to like a council, like an elected representative, or possibly

1429
01:19:18,335 --> 01:19:20,695
Speaker 3: even to your MP to at least stave it off,

1430
01:19:20,735 --> 01:19:23,455
Speaker 3: because you know, I think it's unjustified for counsel to

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01:19:23,495 --> 01:19:25,415
Speaker 3: come in and just demand that they're going to demolish

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01:19:25,495 --> 01:19:29,655
Speaker 3: the house. That seems excessive and an abusive power. Frankly,

1433
01:19:31,815 --> 01:19:34,895
Speaker 3: so could you yeah, well it may well be. Can

1434
01:19:34,935 --> 01:19:36,295
Speaker 3: you let us know how you get on with that

1435
01:19:36,495 --> 01:19:38,455
Speaker 3: or how you make it gets on and appreciate the call.

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01:19:38,695 --> 01:19:40,775
Speaker 3: We're back after the news at eight o'clock. Well, welcome

1437
01:19:40,775 --> 01:19:42,815
Speaker 3: back to the program. At Pete wolf Camp's my name.

1438
01:19:42,895 --> 01:19:45,455
Speaker 3: This is the resident builder. On Sunday, we'll talk all

1439
01:19:45,495 --> 01:19:48,975
Speaker 3: things building in construction and just a moment just prior

1440
01:19:49,055 --> 01:19:51,415
Speaker 3: to the news, Maverick was talking about the situation that

1441
01:19:51,495 --> 01:19:55,655
Speaker 3: his mates got into where council have decided to enforce

1442
01:19:55,775 --> 01:19:59,455
Speaker 3: a sort of non compliance order by demolishing the guy's house.

1443
01:19:59,535 --> 01:20:01,975
Speaker 3: And I agree with this text that came through the

1444
01:20:02,055 --> 01:20:05,535
Speaker 3: guy about his friends dwelling. Sounds very upset. Understandably, even

1445
01:20:05,535 --> 01:20:08,375
Speaker 3: if it's noncom client, to demolish it as ridiculous. Go

1446
01:20:08,495 --> 01:20:10,175
Speaker 3: and see the local MP to see if they can

1447
01:20:10,255 --> 01:20:13,615
Speaker 3: help and mediate it. If it's perfectly livable, I mean,

1448
01:20:13,655 --> 01:20:15,615
Speaker 3: if it is liverable, he needs to get compliance for it.

1449
01:20:15,695 --> 01:20:19,055
Speaker 3: That's fair enough. But to enforce a demolition order does

1450
01:20:19,175 --> 01:20:20,535
Speaker 3: seem vindictive, doesn't it?

1451
01:20:21,015 --> 01:20:21,175
Speaker 19: Right?

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01:20:21,295 --> 01:20:23,575
Speaker 3: Oh, we are going to be talking to rud climb

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01:20:23,575 --> 01:20:26,135
Speaker 3: Past at around eight point thirty this morning. We'll take

1454
01:20:26,295 --> 01:20:29,215
Speaker 3: your calls between now and then. It is seven after eight.

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01:20:30,815 --> 01:20:34,855
Speaker 3: Zi b Skyline Buildings is a trusted name in New

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01:20:34,975 --> 01:20:37,935
Speaker 3: Zealand with a legacy that began in nineteen fifty six

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01:20:38,255 --> 01:20:42,855
Speaker 3: and continues to stand strong today, specializing in garages, cottages

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01:20:42,975 --> 01:20:46,895
Speaker 3: and car Ports. Skyline operates right across and with forty

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01:20:47,055 --> 01:20:50,815
Speaker 3: independently owned and operated distributors right across the country. Today

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01:20:50,855 --> 01:20:53,895
Speaker 3: we're joined by Chris Cook, general manager of Skyline Buildings,

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01:20:54,175 --> 01:20:58,055
Speaker 3: to discuss the advantages of using Jframe, a high quality

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01:20:58,335 --> 01:21:02,495
Speaker 3: LVL framing product that has brought both performance and sustainability

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01:21:02,655 --> 01:21:04,855
Speaker 3: to their projects. A very good morning to you, Chris.

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01:21:06,815 --> 01:21:07,575
Speaker 16: How are you now?

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01:21:07,815 --> 01:21:10,495
Speaker 3: I'm very well, thank you. Now, key advantages for you

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01:21:10,655 --> 01:21:12,775
Speaker 3: guys moving to jframe.

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01:21:14,695 --> 01:21:17,655
Speaker 10: Oh, look, there's three big advantages for us. First of all,

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01:21:17,695 --> 01:21:21,415
Speaker 10: that it's straight, two that it's strong, and three that

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01:21:21,575 --> 01:21:23,735
Speaker 10: it looks good. And all of those are very important

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01:21:23,775 --> 01:21:28,775
Speaker 10: to us. Absolutely, the straight straightness, particularly with our product. Look,

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01:21:28,775 --> 01:21:31,855
Speaker 10: a lot of Skyline buildings and skyll and garages are

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01:21:32,055 --> 01:21:36,415
Speaker 10: clad in metal cladding, metalware the board, and if it's

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01:21:36,495 --> 01:21:40,055
Speaker 10: not straight, it can look terrible. You get ripples in

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01:21:40,135 --> 01:21:42,735
Speaker 10: the clouding from the exterior. You can see to milo

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01:21:42,855 --> 01:21:45,335
Speaker 10: when the sun hits it. So the straightness is probably

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01:21:45,455 --> 01:21:47,615
Speaker 10: the key thing for us. And since we've got a

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01:21:47,735 --> 01:21:52,215
Speaker 10: jframe that's been fantastic and you know, it's definitely it's

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01:21:52,215 --> 01:21:53,655
Speaker 10: a key advantage for us, and it's a point of

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01:21:53,695 --> 01:21:55,695
Speaker 10: difference for our products. So we're very pleased to be

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01:21:55,775 --> 01:21:56,535
Speaker 10: using jframe.

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01:21:56,895 --> 01:21:57,015
Speaker 7: Now.

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01:21:57,135 --> 01:21:59,655
Speaker 3: Jframe has been around since two thousand and six. When

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01:21:59,735 --> 01:22:01,495
Speaker 3: did Skyline Buildings start using it?

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01:22:03,175 --> 01:22:06,135
Speaker 10: Well, look, we were made aware of it from Buddings

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01:22:06,495 --> 01:22:10,295
Speaker 10: in about twenty thirteen and they strongly recommend They've been

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01:22:10,335 --> 01:22:13,015
Speaker 10: using it themselves in different areas and they recommend that

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01:22:13,095 --> 01:22:16,375
Speaker 10: we change over. And look, it was one of the

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01:22:16,415 --> 01:22:20,695
Speaker 10: best decisions that we've ever made, and we'd have a

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01:22:20,815 --> 01:22:23,415
Speaker 10: huge struggle not to use jframe announce. It's been incredibly

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01:22:23,455 --> 01:22:26,615
Speaker 10: popular with our distributors, with our builders, they don't want

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01:22:26,615 --> 01:22:29,255
Speaker 10: to use anything else. So no, no, we're very pleased

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01:22:29,255 --> 01:22:29,415
Speaker 10: with that.

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01:22:30,095 --> 01:22:33,695
Speaker 3: So in terms of that transition, any challenges if any

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01:22:33,775 --> 01:22:36,895
Speaker 3: for Skyline when you moved to J frame and the

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01:22:37,015 --> 01:22:39,055
Speaker 3: outcome has sounds like it has been positive.

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01:22:40,575 --> 01:22:42,295
Speaker 17: Oh, look we've.

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01:22:43,855 --> 01:22:46,135
Speaker 10: No challenges. No, Look, I mean the comment that we've

1498
01:22:46,135 --> 01:22:50,415
Speaker 10: heard initially was that the timber is incredibly hard and

1499
01:22:50,775 --> 01:22:53,255
Speaker 10: unfortunately you have people they use nail guns.

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01:22:53,095 --> 01:22:53,455
Speaker 8: What have you.

1501
01:22:53,535 --> 01:22:55,415
Speaker 10: But look, I would wouldn't end be anyone wanting to

1502
01:22:55,975 --> 01:22:57,615
Speaker 10: put a garage together with a hammer and nail.

1503
01:22:58,495 --> 01:23:01,975
Speaker 8: But that's a positive.

1504
01:23:02,015 --> 01:23:06,455
Speaker 3: Hey, And what's really important for you. Jframe contributes to

1505
01:23:06,775 --> 01:23:10,095
Speaker 3: weather resistance. So how does that impact for your business

1506
01:23:10,135 --> 01:23:12,375
Speaker 3: given that many of your products are transported, don't they.

1507
01:23:13,775 --> 01:23:19,015
Speaker 10: They are indeed, And look if you see a Skyland building,

1508
01:23:19,055 --> 01:23:21,735
Speaker 10: the Skyland garage, it looks I suppose when in transport,

1509
01:23:21,775 --> 01:23:24,895
Speaker 10: they look like a pack of timber covered with plastic

1510
01:23:25,655 --> 01:23:28,255
Speaker 10: cheating over the top of it. And look at the

1511
01:23:28,375 --> 01:23:31,775
Speaker 10: absorption of moisture is particularly where our garages go. They

1512
01:23:31,815 --> 01:23:34,615
Speaker 10: go from you know deep in to the South Island

1513
01:23:34,735 --> 01:23:37,095
Speaker 10: all the way up to the throughous parts of the

1514
01:23:37,495 --> 01:23:41,975
Speaker 10: North Island. Yeah, whether the absorption of water and moisture

1515
01:23:42,015 --> 01:23:45,175
Speaker 10: is very important while it makes it back and credibly

1516
01:23:45,335 --> 01:23:47,975
Speaker 10: be to transport and also it's not very good for

1517
01:23:48,095 --> 01:23:51,495
Speaker 10: the for the structure itself. So no, no, Since we've

1518
01:23:51,495 --> 01:23:54,335
Speaker 10: gone to j Frame, it has been absolutely fantastic and

1519
01:23:54,815 --> 01:23:58,015
Speaker 10: I think doesn't absorb the moisture like other timbers.

1520
01:23:58,215 --> 01:24:01,335
Speaker 3: Yeah, really important for the core part of your business.

1521
01:24:01,775 --> 01:24:04,655
Speaker 3: People will be i think surprised by the range of products.

1522
01:24:04,695 --> 01:24:07,815
Speaker 3: So I'd encourage you to check out Skyline Buildings at

1523
01:24:08,055 --> 01:24:11,455
Speaker 3: Skyline Buildings dot co dot Nz. For more details on

1524
01:24:11,895 --> 01:24:15,455
Speaker 3: Jframe go to Janel dot Co dot m said Chris,

1525
01:24:15,655 --> 01:24:17,455
Speaker 3: thanks very much for joining us this morning.

1526
01:24:17,535 --> 01:24:18,655
Speaker 10: Oh absolute pleasure, Peter.

1527
01:24:19,895 --> 01:24:23,495
Speaker 3: News dogs'd be news dogs. He'd be eleven minutes after

1528
01:24:23,775 --> 01:24:26,335
Speaker 3: eight eight hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to call.

1529
01:24:26,615 --> 01:24:27,975
Speaker 3: Raywan A very good morning to you.

1530
01:24:28,975 --> 01:24:33,295
Speaker 13: Oh good morning, Pete. I've got well, it's probably not

1531
01:24:33,415 --> 01:24:36,655
Speaker 13: my problem because I live in a retirement village. But

1532
01:24:37,175 --> 01:24:39,895
Speaker 13: I noticed of probably a couple of months ago now

1533
01:24:39,975 --> 01:24:43,695
Speaker 13: or more, notice this brown mark on the carpet between

1534
01:24:43,735 --> 01:24:47,415
Speaker 13: the bathroom and the living area. And so I got

1535
01:24:47,455 --> 01:24:50,055
Speaker 13: the village village assistant guy to come and have a lock,

1536
01:24:50,615 --> 01:24:53,175
Speaker 13: and he pulled the carpet away and it was all

1537
01:24:53,575 --> 01:24:59,415
Speaker 13: moldy under there, all MOLDI along the well on the underlay,

1538
01:24:59,575 --> 01:25:02,535
Speaker 13: and a piece of what appears to be a wooden strip,

1539
01:25:02,655 --> 01:25:05,095
Speaker 13: and then you can see down to the concrete. And

1540
01:25:05,735 --> 01:25:07,735
Speaker 13: so he drives do all up and we've been just checking,

1541
01:25:07,815 --> 01:25:11,095
Speaker 13: but they don't know where it's coming from. And I

1542
01:25:11,135 --> 01:25:13,735
Speaker 13: don't know if it's still leaking, because I've given up

1543
01:25:13,775 --> 01:25:15,135
Speaker 13: looking at it every time I have a shower.

1544
01:25:15,695 --> 01:25:20,175
Speaker 3: So where do you see the evidence of moisture and grease?

1545
01:25:20,255 --> 01:25:23,175
Speaker 3: So the brown standing is it inside the bathroom or

1546
01:25:23,535 --> 01:25:24,815
Speaker 3: in an adjoining room.

1547
01:25:25,535 --> 01:25:27,775
Speaker 13: There's no evidence of any They thought it was water

1548
01:25:27,855 --> 01:25:30,095
Speaker 13: running down from the shower across the fine I said,

1549
01:25:30,095 --> 01:25:33,295
Speaker 13: I would notice it it was running, I'd see it,

1550
01:25:33,935 --> 01:25:35,855
Speaker 13: and so there's not. And then they thought it was

1551
01:25:35,855 --> 01:25:37,655
Speaker 13: a drip from the shower door. But the shower door,

1552
01:25:37,695 --> 01:25:40,615
Speaker 13: the way it hangs, it drips inside inside the power.

1553
01:25:41,255 --> 01:25:45,655
Speaker 13: So they're just they just bewildered at what caused it.

1554
01:25:46,535 --> 01:25:49,255
Speaker 13: If it is caused by a leak under the tiles,

1555
01:25:49,295 --> 01:25:51,935
Speaker 13: then they'd have to dig all the tiles up and

1556
01:25:52,055 --> 01:25:54,615
Speaker 13: I have to move out, but for a while. But

1557
01:25:54,975 --> 01:25:57,975
Speaker 13: I just thought you you may have any other suggestions.

1558
01:25:58,055 --> 01:26:00,415
Speaker 13: It's checked that my son is a builder, and he's

1559
01:26:00,415 --> 01:26:04,255
Speaker 13: suggested looking up in the manhole in the adjoining bedroom

1560
01:26:04,935 --> 01:26:07,975
Speaker 13: see there's anything coming through through the walls. But they

1561
01:26:08,055 --> 01:26:09,095
Speaker 13: didn't see anything up there.

1562
01:26:09,775 --> 01:26:12,175
Speaker 3: Do you know if there's an isolation valve for the

1563
01:26:12,335 --> 01:26:14,095
Speaker 3: water just to your.

1564
01:26:14,255 --> 01:26:19,575
Speaker 13: Unit, Yeah, there would be. There would be to turn

1565
01:26:19,615 --> 01:26:20,895
Speaker 13: the water off on the outside.

1566
01:26:22,135 --> 01:26:24,975
Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking, just sometimes. You know, obviously we

1567
01:26:25,015 --> 01:26:28,215
Speaker 3: can get leaks from that are active because it's coming

1568
01:26:28,255 --> 01:26:31,295
Speaker 3: from the pipework, and the simplest way to identify that

1569
01:26:31,495 --> 01:26:34,055
Speaker 3: is to be able to turn the water off and

1570
01:26:34,215 --> 01:26:37,335
Speaker 3: then see whether or not the meter continues to run, right.

1571
01:26:37,375 --> 01:26:40,495
Speaker 8: So sorry, the meta.

1572
01:26:40,535 --> 01:26:43,015
Speaker 13: I don't know whether there's a meta there that'll be.

1573
01:26:43,055 --> 01:26:46,175
Speaker 3: The hard thing, or potentially be able to isolate the

1574
01:26:46,215 --> 01:26:50,295
Speaker 3: water and see whether the patch goes away, or if

1575
01:26:50,375 --> 01:26:53,855
Speaker 3: it's an issue worth waterproofing or selant around the bathroom.

1576
01:26:55,375 --> 01:26:58,175
Speaker 3: You know, maybe the waterproofing has been compromised and water's

1577
01:26:58,215 --> 01:27:00,535
Speaker 3: getting in behind. Is it tiles on the floor and

1578
01:27:00,615 --> 01:27:01,375
Speaker 3: tiles on the wall.

1579
01:27:02,375 --> 01:27:05,775
Speaker 13: Yeah, Yeah, it's just really strange. There's no evidence of

1580
01:27:05,855 --> 01:27:08,855
Speaker 13: any water on the floor that could be going that way,

1581
01:27:10,095 --> 01:27:13,375
Speaker 13: and it's just really strange. And they blamed the dog first,

1582
01:27:13,415 --> 01:27:18,135
Speaker 13: but the dogs doesn't weed there, right, But come inside

1583
01:27:18,735 --> 01:27:20,655
Speaker 13: after I've been away for a day or something and

1584
01:27:20,695 --> 01:27:23,375
Speaker 13: I've come in in the house of smell or meat

1585
01:27:23,735 --> 01:27:27,815
Speaker 13: or denk and must and I didn't know it was

1586
01:27:27,895 --> 01:27:31,015
Speaker 13: there then, So it's obvious it's just leaked further and

1587
01:27:31,095 --> 01:27:33,895
Speaker 13: further up into the carpet and made the carpets round

1588
01:27:33,935 --> 01:27:38,575
Speaker 13: them right dark. It's not hideous or anything, but it's there.

1589
01:27:38,735 --> 01:27:42,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think you know, often we sort of

1590
01:27:42,295 --> 01:27:46,815
Speaker 3: are alerted to what the interior environment of our buildings

1591
01:27:46,935 --> 01:27:48,415
Speaker 3: is like is when we do go away for a

1592
01:27:48,455 --> 01:27:50,895
Speaker 3: couple of days and then there's that feeling when you

1593
01:27:51,215 --> 01:27:53,855
Speaker 3: that smell really open the door and suddenly go, yeah,

1594
01:27:53,895 --> 01:27:56,015
Speaker 3: it feels you know, I can tell that the house

1595
01:27:56,055 --> 01:27:59,135
Speaker 3: has been locked up, so there's obviously issues with moisture

1596
01:27:59,215 --> 01:28:02,415
Speaker 3: or humidity inside the building. Look, I mean the great

1597
01:28:02,495 --> 01:28:06,175
Speaker 3: thing is that, ultimately, I assume you've got a lice,

1598
01:28:06,335 --> 01:28:08,655
Speaker 3: it's to occupy rather than owning the building, in which

1599
01:28:08,735 --> 01:28:12,415
Speaker 3: case the person who administers the license is responsible for it.

1600
01:28:12,455 --> 01:28:14,895
Speaker 3: And it's just a question of kind of putting your

1601
01:28:14,935 --> 01:28:16,535
Speaker 3: hands on your hips and going I need you to

1602
01:28:16,575 --> 01:28:18,135
Speaker 3: sort this out, and I need you to sort out

1603
01:28:18,175 --> 01:28:20,975
Speaker 3: now because ultimately it isn't actually your problem, it's theirs.

1604
01:28:22,055 --> 01:28:23,295
Speaker 13: That's right, I think.

1605
01:28:25,295 --> 01:28:28,375
Speaker 3: Pay good luck with it all, Okay, thank you all

1606
01:28:28,415 --> 01:28:30,935
Speaker 3: the best, and Bruce, a very good morning to you.

1607
01:28:32,615 --> 01:28:35,535
Speaker 5: Hello, Bruce, good morning to you.

1608
01:28:35,695 --> 01:28:39,255
Speaker 16: Peter, good morning, and just listening to your program, you're

1609
01:28:39,415 --> 01:28:47,535
Speaker 16: like an alarm clock from listen to it, Peter, and

1610
01:28:47,815 --> 01:28:52,375
Speaker 16: reply to a question one of your listeners had about

1611
01:28:53,095 --> 01:29:00,375
Speaker 16: flattening under I just this little point and I've experienced

1612
01:29:00,455 --> 01:29:04,535
Speaker 16: it on a new build, is that it's the plastic

1613
01:29:04,935 --> 01:29:11,375
Speaker 16: and I assume got metal facia around their home. It's

1614
01:29:11,495 --> 01:29:16,015
Speaker 16: the meta if the protection plastic hasn't been pulled off

1615
01:29:16,215 --> 01:29:21,215
Speaker 16: cleanly on the facia and there's a line of it's

1616
01:29:21,295 --> 01:29:26,255
Speaker 16: still left on the top of a facia, that that

1617
01:29:26,855 --> 01:29:29,935
Speaker 16: if it's not torn cleanly and not taken all off,

1618
01:29:30,735 --> 01:29:35,015
Speaker 16: that can be caught because of the of the flapping

1619
01:29:35,575 --> 01:29:39,375
Speaker 16: now so much so the client said to us on

1620
01:29:39,655 --> 01:29:42,855
Speaker 16: several occasions and we could never work this one out,

1621
01:29:43,335 --> 01:29:46,815
Speaker 16: that they've actually got a screaming noise and we had

1622
01:29:46,895 --> 01:29:49,615
Speaker 16: to get it in an I'm in Canterbury and it

1623
01:29:50,095 --> 01:29:54,935
Speaker 16: generally happened in a northwest wind and the flapping actually

1624
01:29:55,055 --> 01:30:01,135
Speaker 16: developed into a high pitch streaming noise. Just an example.

1625
01:30:01,215 --> 01:30:03,295
Speaker 16: I don't know quite a few of my generation, but

1626
01:30:03,415 --> 01:30:05,815
Speaker 16: as kids, we used to get sort of a wide

1627
01:30:06,015 --> 01:30:09,295
Speaker 16: lead piece of grass, put it between our thumbs and

1628
01:30:09,535 --> 01:30:12,775
Speaker 16: blow it and it was like a whistle and that

1629
01:30:13,695 --> 01:30:17,175
Speaker 16: that's what the problem was. And it actually was quite

1630
01:30:17,215 --> 01:30:20,695
Speaker 16: a big problem for the facial contractor to do to

1631
01:30:21,415 --> 01:30:24,815
Speaker 16: remove that because the spouting had to be disconnected to

1632
01:30:24,895 --> 01:30:29,215
Speaker 16: get at it to pull it off. So that's what

1633
01:30:29,415 --> 01:30:29,935
Speaker 16: we found.

1634
01:30:31,295 --> 01:30:35,855
Speaker 3: Are your web, Big Peter, sometimes It is just the

1635
01:30:35,895 --> 01:30:38,415
Speaker 3: little things that kind of come back and trip us up.

1636
01:30:38,535 --> 01:30:40,775
Speaker 3: Isn't it worth building? You go, Okay, I'm just going

1637
01:30:40,815 --> 01:30:43,375
Speaker 3: to peel that protective wrap off and where it rolls

1638
01:30:43,415 --> 01:30:45,415
Speaker 3: around the top edge of the facia, no one can

1639
01:30:45,455 --> 01:30:47,735
Speaker 3: see it. I'll leave it on there. It's fiddly to

1640
01:30:47,775 --> 01:30:50,455
Speaker 3: get off, and then you know suddenly you're back a

1641
01:30:50,615 --> 01:30:54,255
Speaker 3: year later, spending hours and hours and hours and maybe

1642
01:30:54,295 --> 01:30:57,255
Speaker 3: having the big scaffolding, et cetera, et cetera. So attention

1643
01:30:57,375 --> 01:31:00,455
Speaker 3: to detail is always the key. Bruce really appreciate the call.

1644
01:31:01,095 --> 01:31:03,055
Speaker 3: A couple of people have texted with regard to that

1645
01:31:03,175 --> 01:31:07,535
Speaker 3: demolition order. Obviously there's slowly more to the story, but

1646
01:31:07,575 --> 01:31:10,255
Speaker 3: it would be interesting to know more about that. But look,

1647
01:31:10,295 --> 01:31:13,255
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone would disagree and say it does

1648
01:31:13,375 --> 01:31:17,255
Speaker 3: seem to be an extraordinary heavy handed gesture to go

1649
01:31:17,535 --> 01:31:20,775
Speaker 3: and do that. Also, just on the leaking in the shower, Hey, Pete,

1650
01:31:20,815 --> 01:31:22,095
Speaker 3: we had a leak in our shower and it was

1651
01:31:22,135 --> 01:31:24,735
Speaker 3: told that we had to pay for anything internal in

1652
01:31:24,815 --> 01:31:27,495
Speaker 3: a retirement village. So I would have thought that's a

1653
01:31:27,535 --> 01:31:29,895
Speaker 3: little bit unfair. I mean, in the end, you didn't

1654
01:31:29,975 --> 01:31:33,255
Speaker 3: do the building, your work, that was done by the

1655
01:31:34,415 --> 01:31:40,455
Speaker 3: retirement village owner. Certainly, if it was a lack of maintenance,

1656
01:31:40,575 --> 01:31:44,175
Speaker 3: let's say that there was a reasonable expectation that you

1657
01:31:44,255 --> 01:31:47,615
Speaker 3: would do certain tasks in order to prevent mold growth

1658
01:31:47,735 --> 01:31:49,775
Speaker 3: or something like that. I can understand that. But if

1659
01:31:49,815 --> 01:31:53,335
Speaker 3: it's an issue with waterproofing or workmanship of pipework and

1660
01:31:53,415 --> 01:31:56,135
Speaker 3: so on, how can that be your responsibility? But I

1661
01:31:56,135 --> 01:32:00,535
Speaker 3: appreciate the text on that as well. Radio we will

1662
01:32:00,975 --> 01:32:03,255
Speaker 3: remember we've got Red Climb passed. At around eight thirty

1663
01:32:03,375 --> 01:32:07,415
Speaker 3: this morning. We'll talk to him, definitely going to ask

1664
01:32:07,455 --> 01:32:10,735
Speaker 3: about artillery fungus. It's going to be the best name

1665
01:32:10,775 --> 01:32:14,855
Speaker 3: for a plant or an organism ever. It's remarkable, So

1666
01:32:14,895 --> 01:32:17,295
Speaker 3: we talk about that. But your opportunity to talk to

1667
01:32:17,415 --> 01:32:19,175
Speaker 3: route from eight thirty. Will come back with a couple

1668
01:32:19,255 --> 01:32:22,215
Speaker 3: more calls in just a moment, right, Oh, last couple

1669
01:32:22,215 --> 01:32:25,295
Speaker 3: of calls for the morning on building Dave, Good morning.

1670
01:32:26,295 --> 01:32:29,815
Speaker 19: Good morning, Pete. I have a problem in my kitchen.

1671
01:32:29,935 --> 01:32:33,055
Speaker 19: You know, it's all tile floor were they've done and

1672
01:32:33,175 --> 01:32:35,855
Speaker 19: we've got an island. We have done the cutout for

1673
01:32:35,935 --> 01:32:40,815
Speaker 19: the dishwasher. The tile cracked, we have covered out. It's

1674
01:32:40,815 --> 01:32:43,215
Speaker 19: about one hundred mill wide. So we've got a guy

1675
01:32:43,255 --> 01:32:47,735
Speaker 19: into to repair it. And when he went to repair it,

1676
01:32:48,615 --> 01:32:51,015
Speaker 19: we've got the water pipe going out. He put a

1677
01:32:51,055 --> 01:32:51,935
Speaker 19: hole in the water pile.

1678
01:32:53,655 --> 01:32:53,855
Speaker 9: Yep.

1679
01:32:54,535 --> 01:32:58,775
Speaker 19: But you know, like now it's it's cracked again, and

1680
01:32:59,015 --> 01:33:01,735
Speaker 19: the tile in front of it is actually cracked as well,

1681
01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:05,095
Speaker 19: and we're going to walk around on the tile floor.

1682
01:33:05,495 --> 01:33:08,015
Speaker 19: There's a sort of making noise when I stand on

1683
01:33:08,335 --> 01:33:11,895
Speaker 19: quite a few of the tiles which they're not fixed down,

1684
01:33:12,015 --> 01:33:14,055
Speaker 19: so I'm a bit worried about it.

1685
01:33:16,535 --> 01:33:23,455
Speaker 3: The challenge is that if for example, the substrate is

1686
01:33:23,535 --> 01:33:26,495
Speaker 3: not well fixed down or possibly an and that could

1687
01:33:26,575 --> 01:33:29,375
Speaker 3: be like if you look at the building code today,

1688
01:33:29,455 --> 01:33:31,695
Speaker 3: if we're going to do tiles in a bathroom, we

1689
01:33:31,815 --> 01:33:34,095
Speaker 3: need to set our choice out at four hundred centers

1690
01:33:34,135 --> 01:33:36,695
Speaker 3: and we need to nog at four hundred centers right,

1691
01:33:36,775 --> 01:33:39,255
Speaker 3: so it's a massive amount of timber. Then we put

1692
01:33:39,335 --> 01:33:41,775
Speaker 3: down a substrate which might be a treated ply, it

1693
01:33:41,895 --> 01:33:44,015
Speaker 3: might be a five or cement sheet, et cetera, et cetera,

1694
01:33:44,375 --> 01:33:46,975
Speaker 3: and then eventually we put our tiles on it. Now,

1695
01:33:47,775 --> 01:33:50,575
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking is that in your situation, an existing

1696
01:33:50,615 --> 01:33:54,455
Speaker 3: building that's had tiles applied down over the floor joice

1697
01:33:54,535 --> 01:33:58,215
Speaker 3: might be at six hundred centers nogging at two meter centers.

1698
01:33:58,575 --> 01:34:02,615
Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of flexibility in there, which in

1699
01:34:02,735 --> 01:34:05,255
Speaker 3: some case, if you choose the right adhesive I a

1700
01:34:05,335 --> 01:34:08,655
Speaker 3: flexible one rather and a rigid one, it'll take up

1701
01:34:08,695 --> 01:34:10,735
Speaker 3: a little bit of that and the tiles will be okay.

1702
01:34:11,215 --> 01:34:14,095
Speaker 3: So it might be a problem from when the tiles

1703
01:34:14,135 --> 01:34:19,375
Speaker 3: were installed that's causing the issue today, and it's been

1704
01:34:19,455 --> 01:34:21,695
Speaker 3: exacerbated by the fact that you've had to cut into

1705
01:34:21,775 --> 01:34:25,055
Speaker 3: tiles and loading it up with a dishwasher and so on.

1706
01:34:25,615 --> 01:34:28,455
Speaker 3: So it could be a slightly bigger problem than just

1707
01:34:28,575 --> 01:34:30,775
Speaker 3: one or two tiles would be my conserner.

1708
01:34:30,855 --> 01:34:34,815
Speaker 19: Yeah, the thing is there is a concrete floor in

1709
01:34:34,855 --> 01:34:35,255
Speaker 19: the nise.

1710
01:34:35,895 --> 01:34:37,175
Speaker 3: Oh it is on a concrete slab.

1711
01:34:38,095 --> 01:34:39,135
Speaker 19: There's a concrete slab.

1712
01:34:39,535 --> 01:34:42,735
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, well then that's hopefully that's not years old.

1713
01:34:43,215 --> 01:34:49,295
Speaker 19: Yep, it's fifteen years old sort of thing. So I'm

1714
01:34:49,335 --> 01:34:51,295
Speaker 19: not sure what what I can do about it, you know,

1715
01:34:51,375 --> 01:34:53,335
Speaker 19: like with all these when you walk around, you know

1716
01:34:53,495 --> 01:34:55,295
Speaker 19: and hear a sort of clicking noise on quite a

1717
01:34:55,375 --> 01:34:58,455
Speaker 19: few of the tiles around the on the floor, is it?

1718
01:34:59,575 --> 01:35:02,175
Speaker 19: I know, you can get a flexible ceiling to put

1719
01:35:02,215 --> 01:35:03,415
Speaker 19: it down or a hard one.

1720
01:35:03,975 --> 01:35:08,575
Speaker 3: You wouldn't well, I mean, look again potentially and maybe

1721
01:35:08,615 --> 01:35:10,415
Speaker 3: there's been a bit of moisture that's got through the

1722
01:35:10,535 --> 01:35:13,495
Speaker 3: tiles and so on, and what you're starting to see

1723
01:35:13,615 --> 01:35:15,535
Speaker 3: is the tiles reaching the end of their sort of

1724
01:35:15,575 --> 01:35:19,415
Speaker 3: workable life that they're starting to delaminate. The adhesive is

1725
01:35:19,495 --> 01:35:22,975
Speaker 3: coming off, and really the solution, thankfully you've got a

1726
01:35:23,015 --> 01:35:25,775
Speaker 3: concrete slab. If you needed to, you get in there,

1727
01:35:26,615 --> 01:35:30,255
Speaker 3: chisel off all of the old tiles completely, maybe waterproof

1728
01:35:30,335 --> 01:35:32,815
Speaker 3: the slab a little bit more, use the right adhesive,

1729
01:35:32,895 --> 01:35:35,055
Speaker 3: so the right system all the way from bear concrete

1730
01:35:35,135 --> 01:35:38,255
Speaker 3: up and then replace all of the tiles. But that's

1731
01:35:38,295 --> 01:35:42,735
Speaker 3: a much bigger job than just you know, one or two. Yeah,

1732
01:35:42,735 --> 01:35:48,055
Speaker 3: it's yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Maybe instead of

1733
01:35:48,375 --> 01:35:51,055
Speaker 3: like you know, as trades people were often involved in

1734
01:35:51,295 --> 01:35:54,295
Speaker 3: working in other people's trades, right, But I wonder whether

1735
01:35:54,335 --> 01:35:57,295
Speaker 3: it might be worthwhile getting an experienced tiler. So if

1736
01:35:57,335 --> 01:35:59,335
Speaker 3: you go somewhere like tile Space, go down to the

1737
01:35:59,415 --> 01:36:01,255
Speaker 3: back to the trade depot and go look, I need

1738
01:36:01,335 --> 01:36:03,935
Speaker 3: someone in the local area to come and just do

1739
01:36:04,015 --> 01:36:05,975
Speaker 3: an assessment. They might come and just see whether it's

1740
01:36:06,055 --> 01:36:08,975
Speaker 3: drum me or whatever and give you some advice. Maybe

1741
01:36:09,015 --> 01:36:11,695
Speaker 3: it's repairable, maybe it's not. But I think talking to

1742
01:36:11,775 --> 01:36:14,655
Speaker 3: a professional tiler is probably not a bad option at

1743
01:36:14,695 --> 01:36:15,095
Speaker 3: the stage.

1744
01:36:16,375 --> 01:36:18,015
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's that's a good idea.

1745
01:36:18,535 --> 01:36:20,375
Speaker 3: Good luck with that. All the very best to you,

1746
01:36:20,575 --> 01:36:23,215
Speaker 3: Take care and don it very quickly. Good morning to you.

1747
01:36:24,375 --> 01:36:27,455
Speaker 11: Good morning. I have I'm an o rental property. I've

1748
01:36:27,495 --> 01:36:31,055
Speaker 11: only been here for nearly three months, and I've noticed

1749
01:36:31,815 --> 01:36:34,695
Speaker 11: that some of the floors, particularly where heavy things, are

1750
01:36:35,015 --> 01:36:37,615
Speaker 11: starting to sort of slop. Should I be worried about it?

1751
01:36:38,575 --> 01:36:41,775
Speaker 3: Well, your landlord should because it's your landlord's.

1752
01:36:41,255 --> 01:36:43,095
Speaker 5: Asset, So yeah, I know.

1753
01:36:43,255 --> 01:36:46,015
Speaker 11: But should I be pushing like I've been told? If

1754
01:36:46,015 --> 01:36:46,935
Speaker 11: I'm not dripping over.

1755
01:36:46,775 --> 01:36:51,295
Speaker 3: It, it's not a problem, okay, right, okay.

1756
01:36:51,455 --> 01:36:54,095
Speaker 11: Yeah, So we're like in the spare room where there's

1757
01:36:54,095 --> 01:36:57,655
Speaker 11: a heavy dressing table in the bed it's and the kitchen.

1758
01:36:57,775 --> 01:36:59,375
Speaker 11: It was fine when I came in, but now that

1759
01:36:59,415 --> 01:37:01,335
Speaker 11: I've put things in the cupboard and used the dishwasher

1760
01:37:01,655 --> 01:37:02,775
Speaker 11: right where the fridge is.

1761
01:37:03,295 --> 01:37:05,855
Speaker 3: Yeah, presume it's a timber floor and it's elevated.

1762
01:37:05,975 --> 01:37:06,215
Speaker 7: I'm not.

1763
01:37:07,335 --> 01:37:09,815
Speaker 11: It's got lemmet over it, But I don't know what's underneath.

1764
01:37:10,135 --> 01:37:12,215
Speaker 3: Right, if you walk around the outside of the house, though,

1765
01:37:12,215 --> 01:37:13,895
Speaker 3: a floor level up a little bit or is it

1766
01:37:13,975 --> 01:37:17,255
Speaker 3: quite the ground, it's up a bit, it's up it Okay,

1767
01:37:17,335 --> 01:37:20,935
Speaker 3: So let's assume that it's a timber floor. You know,

1768
01:37:21,015 --> 01:37:24,015
Speaker 3: I'm sure within your circle of frenzy might be a

1769
01:37:24,375 --> 01:37:27,895
Speaker 3: carpenter or a builder who might just come and look underneath.

1770
01:37:28,215 --> 01:37:31,295
Speaker 3: Possibly there's some sbsidence in the building, in which case,

1771
01:37:32,815 --> 01:37:35,455
Speaker 3: you know, you could say to the landlord, look, I

1772
01:37:35,575 --> 01:37:38,095
Speaker 3: think and it's in your own interests to come and

1773
01:37:38,215 --> 01:37:40,575
Speaker 3: have a lock. Maybe the landlord doesn't care. The other

1774
01:37:40,695 --> 01:37:42,655
Speaker 3: thing that can happen is, you know, if it's a

1775
01:37:42,695 --> 01:37:45,855
Speaker 3: building of it's in vintage, the particle board might be

1776
01:37:46,015 --> 01:37:48,735
Speaker 3: starting to sort of decay a little bit, in which

1777
01:37:48,815 --> 01:37:51,255
Speaker 3: case I've seen that where let's say you put a

1778
01:37:51,295 --> 01:37:54,855
Speaker 3: heavy weight in the middle, in the between the span

1779
01:37:54,975 --> 01:37:57,135
Speaker 3: of the joist right, so the particle board might span

1780
01:37:57,215 --> 01:38:00,775
Speaker 3: six hundred You put the edge of a dresser, for example,

1781
01:38:00,935 --> 01:38:03,295
Speaker 3: the feet of addresser in the middle of that, and

1782
01:38:03,455 --> 01:38:05,895
Speaker 3: it can over time cause that to sag if it's

1783
01:38:05,935 --> 01:38:08,095
Speaker 3: old particle board, So there might be a little bit

1784
01:38:08,135 --> 01:38:11,695
Speaker 3: of that, or there's just like I say general subsidence, but.

1785
01:38:12,415 --> 01:38:14,575
Speaker 11: Think it's the nineteen fifties or nineteen sixty.

1786
01:38:15,135 --> 01:38:19,335
Speaker 3: You know, it is incredibly rare for buildings to actually collapse.

1787
01:38:19,375 --> 01:38:21,015
Speaker 3: I know we're worried about it all the time, but

1788
01:38:21,135 --> 01:38:24,295
Speaker 3: it's incredibly rare. So if you're thinking, gosh, is this

1789
01:38:24,815 --> 01:38:27,255
Speaker 3: slope going to accelerate to the point where it's going

1790
01:38:27,335 --> 01:38:31,055
Speaker 3: to collapse, I would be unbelievably surprised if that was

1791
01:38:31,135 --> 01:38:34,535
Speaker 3: the case. Is it annoying? Yeah, maybe it is. You know,

1792
01:38:34,615 --> 01:38:36,495
Speaker 3: if you feel that it's unsafe, then go back to

1793
01:38:36,575 --> 01:38:39,175
Speaker 3: the landlord. Otherwise I guess you've done what you need

1794
01:38:39,255 --> 01:38:41,295
Speaker 3: to do as a responsible tenant. Hey, I'd like to

1795
01:38:41,375 --> 01:38:43,975
Speaker 3: draw this to your attention. If the landlord doesn't care

1796
01:38:44,015 --> 01:38:47,815
Speaker 3: about their asset, well, unfortunately that's their problem. Yeah, yeah,

1797
01:38:48,415 --> 01:38:52,255
Speaker 3: all the very best to take care there. You can

1798
01:38:52,335 --> 01:38:54,495
Speaker 3: do the old marble track, you know, to determine how

1799
01:38:54,575 --> 01:38:56,575
Speaker 3: much slope there is on a floor. You figure out

1800
01:38:56,615 --> 01:38:58,415
Speaker 3: where you think the high point is, but the marble

1801
01:38:58,455 --> 01:39:00,775
Speaker 3: down and see where it rolls. That'll soon tell you

1802
01:39:00,895 --> 01:39:03,935
Speaker 3: what the slope's like. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1803
01:39:04,175 --> 01:39:07,415
Speaker 3: Let us get into the that a terrible pun. Let

1804
01:39:07,495 --> 01:39:09,855
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1805
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1806
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1807
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1816
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1817
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1818
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1822
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Speaker 3: Z right oh, last couple of calls for the morning

1823
01:40:28,415 --> 01:40:30,455
Speaker 3: on Building Dave, Good morning.

1824
01:40:31,455 --> 01:40:35,015
Speaker 19: Good morning Pete. I have a problem in my kitchen.

1825
01:40:35,135 --> 01:40:38,255
Speaker 19: You know, it's all tile floor with they've done and

1826
01:40:38,335 --> 01:40:41,015
Speaker 19: we've got an island. We have done the cutout for

1827
01:40:41,135 --> 01:40:45,975
Speaker 19: the dishwasher. The tile cracked, we have covered out. It's

1828
01:40:46,015 --> 01:40:48,375
Speaker 19: about one hundred mill wide. So we've got a guy

1829
01:40:48,455 --> 01:40:52,935
Speaker 19: into to repair it. And when he went to repair it,

1830
01:40:53,775 --> 01:40:56,175
Speaker 19: we've got the water pipe going out. He put a

1831
01:40:56,215 --> 01:40:57,135
Speaker 19: hole in the water pole.

1832
01:40:58,855 --> 01:40:59,055
Speaker 3: Yep.

1833
01:40:59,695 --> 01:41:03,935
Speaker 19: But you know, like now it's it's cracked again and

1834
01:41:04,215 --> 01:41:06,895
Speaker 19: the tile in front of it is actually as well,

1835
01:41:07,695 --> 01:41:10,295
Speaker 19: and we're going to walk around on the tile floor.

1836
01:41:10,695 --> 01:41:13,175
Speaker 19: There's a sort of clicking noise when I stand on

1837
01:41:13,535 --> 01:41:17,055
Speaker 19: quite a few of the tiles which they're not fixed down,

1838
01:41:17,175 --> 01:41:19,215
Speaker 19: so I'm a bit worried about it.

1839
01:41:21,415 --> 01:41:28,615
Speaker 3: The challenge is that if, for example, the substrate is

1840
01:41:28,735 --> 01:41:31,775
Speaker 3: not well fixed down or possibly and that could be

1841
01:41:32,695 --> 01:41:34,775
Speaker 3: like if you look at the building code today, if

1842
01:41:34,815 --> 01:41:37,095
Speaker 3: we're going to do tiles in a bathroom, we need

1843
01:41:37,175 --> 01:41:39,335
Speaker 3: to set our choice out at four hundred centers and

1844
01:41:39,495 --> 01:41:41,975
Speaker 3: we need to nog at four hundred centers right, So

1845
01:41:42,055 --> 01:41:44,695
Speaker 3: it's a massive amount of timber. Then we put down

1846
01:41:44,855 --> 01:41:47,215
Speaker 3: a substrate, which might be a treated ply, it might

1847
01:41:47,255 --> 01:41:49,175
Speaker 3: be a five or cement sheet, et cetera, et cetera,

1848
01:41:49,535 --> 01:41:52,135
Speaker 3: and then eventually we put our tiles on it. Now,

1849
01:41:52,935 --> 01:41:55,735
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking is that in your situation, an existing

1850
01:41:55,815 --> 01:41:59,615
Speaker 3: building that's had tiles applied down over the floor Joyce

1851
01:41:59,735 --> 01:42:03,415
Speaker 3: might be at six hundred centers nogging at two meter centers.

1852
01:42:03,735 --> 01:42:07,815
Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of flexibility in there, which in

1853
01:42:07,895 --> 01:42:10,975
Speaker 3: some case if you choose the right adhesive, a flexible

1854
01:42:11,015 --> 01:42:13,895
Speaker 3: one rather than a rigid one, it'll take up a

1855
01:42:13,935 --> 01:42:15,895
Speaker 3: little bit of that and the tiles will be okay.

1856
01:42:16,375 --> 01:42:19,295
Speaker 3: So it might be a problem from when the tiles

1857
01:42:19,335 --> 01:42:24,535
Speaker 3: were installed that's causing the issue today, and it's been

1858
01:42:24,615 --> 01:42:26,855
Speaker 3: exacerbated by the fact that you've had to cut into

1859
01:42:26,935 --> 01:42:30,255
Speaker 3: tiles and loading it up with a dishwasher and so on.

1860
01:42:30,775 --> 01:42:33,655
Speaker 3: So it could be a slightly bigger problem than just

1861
01:42:33,735 --> 01:42:35,895
Speaker 3: one or two tiles would be my concern.

1862
01:42:36,015 --> 01:42:40,735
Speaker 19: Yes, the thing is a concrete floor in the nise.

1863
01:42:41,055 --> 01:42:42,335
Speaker 3: Well, it is on a concrete slab.

1864
01:42:43,255 --> 01:42:45,255
Speaker 19: There's a concrete slab, okay, all.

1865
01:42:45,215 --> 01:42:47,895
Speaker 3: Right, Well, then hopefully that's not moving years old.

1866
01:42:48,415 --> 01:42:54,455
Speaker 19: Yep, it's fifteen years old sort of thing. So I'm

1867
01:42:54,495 --> 01:42:56,975
Speaker 19: not sure what what I can do about it with

1868
01:42:57,095 --> 01:42:58,895
Speaker 19: all these When you walk around, you know, and hear

1869
01:42:58,935 --> 01:43:00,735
Speaker 19: a sort of clicking noise on quite a few of

1870
01:43:00,775 --> 01:43:04,975
Speaker 19: the tiles around the on the floor that I know

1871
01:43:05,135 --> 01:43:07,855
Speaker 19: you can get a flexible it put it down, or

1872
01:43:07,895 --> 01:43:08,575
Speaker 19: a hard one.

1873
01:43:09,135 --> 01:43:13,775
Speaker 3: You wouldn't well, I mean, look again potentially and maybe

1874
01:43:13,815 --> 01:43:15,615
Speaker 3: there's been a bit of moisture that's got through the

1875
01:43:15,695 --> 01:43:18,695
Speaker 3: tiles and so on, and what you're starting to see

1876
01:43:18,775 --> 01:43:20,695
Speaker 3: is the tiles reaching the end of their sort of

1877
01:43:20,735 --> 01:43:24,575
Speaker 3: workable life that they're starting to delaminate. The adhesive is

1878
01:43:24,655 --> 01:43:28,135
Speaker 3: coming off, and really the solution, thankfully, you've got a

1879
01:43:28,175 --> 01:43:30,935
Speaker 3: concrete slab. If you needed to, you get in there,

1880
01:43:31,815 --> 01:43:35,415
Speaker 3: chisel off all of the old tiles completely, maybe waterproof

1881
01:43:35,495 --> 01:43:38,015
Speaker 3: the slab a little bit more, use the right adhesive,

1882
01:43:38,095 --> 01:43:40,415
Speaker 3: so the right system all the way from bear concrete up,

1883
01:43:41,335 --> 01:43:43,495
Speaker 3: and then replace all of the tiles. But that's a

1884
01:43:43,575 --> 01:43:47,895
Speaker 3: much bigger job than just you know, one or two. Yeah,

1885
01:43:47,935 --> 01:43:53,175
Speaker 3: it's a yeah, yeah, I know, I know. Maybe instead

1886
01:43:53,175 --> 01:43:56,135
Speaker 3: of like you know, as trades people were often involved

1887
01:43:56,175 --> 01:43:59,215
Speaker 3: in working in other people's trades, right, But I wonder

1888
01:43:59,255 --> 01:44:02,295
Speaker 3: whether it might be worthwhile getting an experienced tiler. So

1889
01:44:02,335 --> 01:44:04,415
Speaker 3: if you go somewhere like tile Space, go down to

1890
01:44:04,495 --> 01:44:06,135
Speaker 3: the back to the trade depot and go, look, I

1891
01:44:06,375 --> 01:44:08,975
Speaker 3: need someone in the local area to come and just

1892
01:44:09,055 --> 01:44:11,015
Speaker 3: do an assessment. They might come and just see whether

1893
01:44:11,055 --> 01:44:14,135
Speaker 3: it's drummy or whatever and give you some advice. Maybe

1894
01:44:14,215 --> 01:44:16,895
Speaker 3: it's repairable, maybe it's not. But I think talking to

1895
01:44:16,975 --> 01:44:19,815
Speaker 3: a professional tyler is probably not a bad option at

1896
01:44:19,855 --> 01:44:20,255
Speaker 3: the stage.

1897
01:44:21,575 --> 01:44:23,175
Speaker 19: Yeah, that's that's a good idea.

1898
01:44:23,695 --> 01:44:25,535
Speaker 3: Good luck with that. All the very best to you,

1899
01:44:25,735 --> 01:44:28,375
Speaker 3: Take care and don it very quickly. Good morning to you.

1900
01:44:29,535 --> 01:44:32,615
Speaker 11: Good morning. I have I'm an o rental property. I've

1901
01:44:32,655 --> 01:44:36,215
Speaker 11: only been here for nearly three months, and I've noticed

1902
01:44:36,975 --> 01:44:39,855
Speaker 11: that some of the floors, particularly where heavy things, are

1903
01:44:40,255 --> 01:44:42,775
Speaker 11: putting the sort of slop. Should I be worried about it?

1904
01:44:43,735 --> 01:44:47,095
Speaker 3: Well, your landlord should because it's your landlord's asset.

1905
01:44:46,935 --> 01:44:50,415
Speaker 11: So yeah, I know. But should I be pushing like

1906
01:44:50,495 --> 01:44:52,175
Speaker 11: I've been told? If I'm not dripping over it, it's

1907
01:44:52,215 --> 01:44:58,055
Speaker 11: not a problem, okay, right, okay, Yeah, So it's we're

1908
01:44:58,135 --> 01:44:59,935
Speaker 11: like in the spare room where there's a heavy dressing

1909
01:45:00,015 --> 01:45:03,215
Speaker 11: table and the bed. It's in the kitchen. It was

1910
01:45:03,295 --> 01:45:04,855
Speaker 11: fine when I came in, but now that I've put

1911
01:45:04,895 --> 01:45:07,135
Speaker 11: things in the cupboard and used the dish right.

1912
01:45:07,135 --> 01:45:07,935
Speaker 7: Where the fridge is.

1913
01:45:08,455 --> 01:45:11,055
Speaker 3: Yeah, presume it's a timber floor and it's elevated.

1914
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Speaker 11: I'm not it's got lemit over it, but I don't

1915
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Speaker 11: know what's underneath.

1916
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Speaker 3: Right, if you walk around the outside of the house, though,

1917
01:45:17,415 --> 01:45:19,055
Speaker 3: a floor level up a little bit or is it

1918
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Speaker 3: quite the ground, it's up a bit, it's up it. Okay,

1919
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Speaker 3: So let's assume that it's a timber floor. You know,

1920
01:45:26,215 --> 01:45:29,215
Speaker 3: I'm sure within your circle of frenzy might be a

1921
01:45:29,535 --> 01:45:33,055
Speaker 3: carpenter or a builder who might just come and look underneath.

1922
01:45:33,375 --> 01:45:36,495
Speaker 3: Possibly there's some subsidence in the building, in which case,

1923
01:45:37,975 --> 01:45:40,655
Speaker 3: you know, you could say to the landlord, look, I

1924
01:45:40,735 --> 01:45:43,255
Speaker 3: think and it's in your own interests to come and

1925
01:45:43,375 --> 01:45:45,775
Speaker 3: have a lock. Maybe the landlord doesn't care. The other

1926
01:45:45,855 --> 01:45:47,815
Speaker 3: thing that can happen is, you know, if it's a

1927
01:45:47,855 --> 01:45:51,015
Speaker 3: building of it's in vintage, the particle board might be

1928
01:45:51,175 --> 01:45:53,895
Speaker 3: starting to sort of decay a little bit, in which

1929
01:45:53,975 --> 01:45:56,415
Speaker 3: case I've seen that where let's say you put a

1930
01:45:56,495 --> 01:46:00,015
Speaker 3: heavy weight in the middle in the between the span

1931
01:46:00,135 --> 01:46:02,295
Speaker 3: of the joist right so the particle board might span

1932
01:46:02,415 --> 01:46:05,975
Speaker 3: six hundred. You put the edge of a dresser, for example,

1933
01:46:06,055 --> 01:46:08,455
Speaker 3: the heat of addresser in the middle of that, and

1934
01:46:08,615 --> 01:46:11,055
Speaker 3: it can over time cause that to sag if it's

1935
01:46:11,135 --> 01:46:13,255
Speaker 3: older particle board. So there might be a little bit

1936
01:46:13,295 --> 01:46:16,855
Speaker 3: of that, or there's just like I say, general subsidence, but.

1937
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Speaker 11: I think it's the nineteen fifties or nineteen sixties place.

1938
01:46:20,295 --> 01:46:24,495
Speaker 3: You know, it is incredibly rare for buildings to actually collapse.

1939
01:46:24,535 --> 01:46:26,215
Speaker 3: I know we're worried about it all the time, but

1940
01:46:26,295 --> 01:46:29,455
Speaker 3: it's incredibly rare. So if you're thinking, gosh, is this

1941
01:46:29,975 --> 01:46:32,415
Speaker 3: slope going to accelerate to the point where it's going

1942
01:46:32,495 --> 01:46:36,215
Speaker 3: to collapse, I would be unbelievably surprised if that was

1943
01:46:36,295 --> 01:46:39,695
Speaker 3: the case. Is it annoying? Yeah, maybe it is. You know,

1944
01:46:39,815 --> 01:46:41,655
Speaker 3: if you feel that it's unsafe, then go back to

1945
01:46:41,735 --> 01:46:44,375
Speaker 3: the landlord. Otherwise I guess you've done what you need

1946
01:46:44,415 --> 01:46:46,455
Speaker 3: to do as a responsible tenant. Hey, I'd like to

1947
01:46:46,535 --> 01:46:49,175
Speaker 3: draw this to your attention. If the landlord doesn't care

1948
01:46:49,175 --> 01:46:52,975
Speaker 3: about their asset, well, unfortunately that's their problem. Yeah, yeah,

1949
01:46:54,295 --> 01:46:57,255
Speaker 3: all the very best to take care by there. You

1950
01:46:57,335 --> 01:46:59,535
Speaker 3: can do the old marble track, you know, to determine

1951
01:46:59,575 --> 01:47:01,615
Speaker 3: how much slope there is on a floor. You figure

1952
01:47:01,615 --> 01:47:03,215
Speaker 3: out where you think the high point is. Put the

1953
01:47:03,255 --> 01:47:05,895
Speaker 3: marble down and see where it rolls. That'll soon tell

1954
01:47:05,895 --> 01:47:09,095
Speaker 3: you what's slopes like, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1955
01:47:09,375 --> 01:47:12,295
Speaker 3: Let us get into the is that a terrible pun

1956
01:47:12,455 --> 01:47:14,775
Speaker 3: let us? If we're talking about gardening, let us get

1957
01:47:14,815 --> 01:47:17,375
Speaker 3: into the garden with a rid climb pass in just

1958
01:47:17,495 --> 01:47:18,895
Speaker 3: a money right red climb pass.

1959
01:47:18,935 --> 01:47:21,855
Speaker 20: Good morning, sir, A very good morning to you, pierrero

1960
01:47:22,055 --> 01:47:22,815
Speaker 20: Are you all good?

1961
01:47:23,095 --> 01:47:26,415
Speaker 3: Yeah, very well, thank you, now right, But we've got

1962
01:47:26,455 --> 01:47:30,655
Speaker 3: a whole boarder of calls. But artillery fungus, shotgun fungus,

1963
01:47:30,775 --> 01:47:31,135
Speaker 3: tell me.

1964
01:47:32,295 --> 01:47:37,455
Speaker 20: It's it is actually a fungus that lives that originates

1965
01:47:37,535 --> 01:47:41,215
Speaker 20: from mulch in the garden, if you like. So, if

1966
01:47:41,255 --> 01:47:44,375
Speaker 20: you've got a lot of mulch there, there's a fungus

1967
01:47:44,535 --> 01:47:47,655
Speaker 20: if you like, that wants to spread its spores literally

1968
01:47:48,095 --> 01:47:51,895
Speaker 20: by shooting it into the quite a long way, usually

1969
01:47:52,015 --> 01:47:57,935
Speaker 20: to something with a light colored surface. It has deliberately, yes,

1970
01:47:58,055 --> 01:48:01,175
Speaker 20: because that's probably the best way for the fungal spores

1971
01:48:01,215 --> 01:48:06,535
Speaker 20: to actually germinate. Okay, so so it knows where your

1972
01:48:06,615 --> 01:48:07,495
Speaker 20: carriers back.

1973
01:48:07,615 --> 01:48:10,415
Speaker 3: Wow, I love it.

1974
01:48:10,735 --> 01:48:12,415
Speaker 20: I've ever got my car before too.

1975
01:48:12,935 --> 01:48:15,375
Speaker 3: And and so that's.

1976
01:48:14,975 --> 01:48:17,135
Speaker 20: Basically how it works. So it's it's it's in a

1977
01:48:17,215 --> 01:48:20,055
Speaker 20: fungus that occurs in New Zealand, and it hasn't it

1978
01:48:20,175 --> 01:48:24,575
Speaker 20: hasn't a wonderful name. Actually it's sphere o bolus stellatus,

1979
01:48:24,695 --> 01:48:28,135
Speaker 20: which means it's it's aiming at things, you know, like

1980
01:48:28,375 --> 01:48:29,615
Speaker 20: literally like an artillery.

1981
01:48:30,815 --> 01:48:31,415
Speaker 7: What can you do?

1982
01:48:31,735 --> 01:48:34,575
Speaker 20: Well? The first thing is, if you have this stuff

1983
01:48:34,695 --> 01:48:38,375
Speaker 20: in your in your mulch, try using pine mulch. I

1984
01:48:38,895 --> 01:48:41,575
Speaker 20: understand that pine mulch is not that good for that

1985
01:48:41,695 --> 01:48:46,335
Speaker 20: particular fungus. That's number one. Number two, try wet and forget.

1986
01:48:46,455 --> 01:48:48,335
Speaker 20: It's really hard to get rid of by the way,

1987
01:48:48,415 --> 01:48:50,375
Speaker 20: try wet and forget. You never know if that's going

1988
01:48:50,455 --> 01:48:54,935
Speaker 20: to work that out. Otherwise you use some nice warm

1989
01:48:55,175 --> 01:48:59,815
Speaker 20: look warm water or warm water. Maybe what can you

1990
01:48:59,895 --> 01:49:04,575
Speaker 20: put into it? Oh gosh, maybe some soap and things

1991
01:49:04,695 --> 01:49:08,215
Speaker 20: like that. But it's pretty hard to get out of

1992
01:49:08,295 --> 01:49:10,895
Speaker 20: there actually, to be quite honest, it's really hard.

1993
01:49:12,175 --> 01:49:13,055
Speaker 12: That was what you know.

1994
01:49:13,255 --> 01:49:17,575
Speaker 3: The original question was around sort of the durability, right,

1995
01:49:17,655 --> 01:49:21,135
Speaker 3: the persistence of this growth, and that in some cases

1996
01:49:21,215 --> 01:49:23,855
Speaker 3: someone had had it on weatherboards and then trying to

1997
01:49:23,895 --> 01:49:25,935
Speaker 3: get it off with the boards. Now, the other comment

1998
01:49:26,055 --> 01:49:27,815
Speaker 3: just very quickly. I don't want to take too much

1999
01:49:27,855 --> 01:49:31,375
Speaker 3: of your time, but it was about a caller said,

2000
01:49:31,495 --> 01:49:35,735
Speaker 3: it's moths that were leaving like a shell casing on

2001
01:49:35,895 --> 01:49:38,855
Speaker 3: the exterior of the weatherboard that was also incredibly difficult

2002
01:49:38,855 --> 01:49:39,295
Speaker 3: to get off.

2003
01:49:40,175 --> 01:49:43,575
Speaker 20: Oh, don't think so. I know they can lay their

2004
01:49:43,615 --> 01:49:47,975
Speaker 20: eggs on surfaces like that, and they but especially once

2005
01:49:48,055 --> 01:49:51,335
Speaker 20: they hatch, they will be kay. I've also heard of

2006
01:49:51,415 --> 01:49:54,815
Speaker 20: spiderwebe's and I call them websites now, kids love that

2007
01:49:54,975 --> 01:49:59,735
Speaker 20: I call them anyway, those websites. But the moths egg

2008
01:49:59,935 --> 01:50:03,615
Speaker 20: cases as well. Yes, it's you need to be very careful,

2009
01:50:03,735 --> 01:50:06,775
Speaker 20: you know. With paint, you've got to you can't craper

2010
01:50:06,895 --> 01:50:09,335
Speaker 20: too much because you can damage you know what I mean. Yeah,

2011
01:50:09,495 --> 01:50:13,175
Speaker 20: but it's stuff like that. It'll come off, and so

2012
01:50:13,415 --> 01:50:16,855
Speaker 20: will that artillery fungus, but it can take quite a.

2013
01:50:16,855 --> 01:50:19,575
Speaker 3: Long time, right, and a lot of elbow grease.

2014
01:50:19,895 --> 01:50:22,935
Speaker 20: But I think it's so cool of nature of these things.

2015
01:50:23,055 --> 01:50:26,775
Speaker 3: Yes, it's so exciting. Well, I don't want it, but

2016
01:50:27,135 --> 01:50:29,335
Speaker 3: the fact that it's out there is awesome. Right, Let's

2017
01:50:29,415 --> 01:50:31,535
Speaker 3: rip into a few calls. Errol, A very good.

2018
01:50:31,415 --> 01:50:35,695
Speaker 6: Morning, Good morning to you, Rude. I've got a problem

2019
01:50:35,815 --> 01:50:40,495
Speaker 6: with a plum tree. It's about three years old. Last

2020
01:50:40,655 --> 01:50:45,015
Speaker 6: year we only got one plumb off it. I've sprayed

2021
01:50:45,055 --> 01:50:51,055
Speaker 6: it during winter with two lots of copper and now

2022
01:50:52,255 --> 01:50:56,695
Speaker 6: we've got plums on there, but some of them look

2023
01:50:56,815 --> 01:50:58,655
Speaker 6: like they've got a punch out. They've gone flat.

2024
01:50:59,735 --> 01:51:01,535
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, I know what you mean.

2025
01:51:01,655 --> 01:51:07,175
Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh that is bladder plum

2026
01:51:07,895 --> 01:51:11,895
Speaker 20: and I think you should have had some if you like,

2027
01:51:12,095 --> 01:51:16,175
Speaker 20: some fungal material on there. Yes, actually bladder plum. If

2028
01:51:16,175 --> 01:51:17,975
Speaker 20: you want to google it, you can do that yourself.

2029
01:51:19,735 --> 01:51:23,375
Speaker 20: It's it's I think you need some fungicide before there's

2030
01:51:23,615 --> 01:51:27,255
Speaker 20: Those plums are starting to ripen, and I think some

2031
01:51:27,495 --> 01:51:30,215
Speaker 20: of that could from memory. It might have something to

2032
01:51:30,295 --> 01:51:33,415
Speaker 20: do with spraying it in autumn time as well. I'll

2033
01:51:33,495 --> 01:51:35,455
Speaker 20: have to look that up to be quite honest, Errol,

2034
01:51:35,495 --> 01:51:38,215
Speaker 20: I haven't seen it for a while, and it's famous

2035
01:51:38,335 --> 01:51:41,375
Speaker 20: on certain plum species. The fact that you have few

2036
01:51:41,535 --> 01:51:44,215
Speaker 20: plums could something could be something to do with the

2037
01:51:44,295 --> 01:51:45,775
Speaker 20: fact that you might need a pollinator.

2038
01:51:47,655 --> 01:51:51,335
Speaker 6: Does that makes sense, Yeah, yeah, So have have another.

2039
01:51:51,215 --> 01:51:55,495
Speaker 20: Have another plump tree nearby that will that will so

2040
01:51:55,615 --> 01:51:57,615
Speaker 20: you get to cross pollination and that gives you a

2041
01:51:57,655 --> 01:51:59,815
Speaker 20: lot more fruit this year.

2042
01:51:59,895 --> 01:52:03,135
Speaker 6: There are there are quite a few other plums there,

2043
01:52:03,215 --> 01:52:07,135
Speaker 6: but there there are the flat one as well.

2044
01:52:07,255 --> 01:52:08,975
Speaker 3: So yeah, there later.

2045
01:52:09,295 --> 01:52:11,615
Speaker 20: Okay, in that case, it might not be that problem,

2046
01:52:12,095 --> 01:52:16,095
Speaker 20: but bladder bloom certainly is. And it's it's a it's

2047
01:52:16,135 --> 01:52:18,335
Speaker 20: a it's a lovely it's a strange look.

2048
01:52:18,255 --> 01:52:18,495
Speaker 12: Isn't it.

2049
01:52:19,615 --> 01:52:19,815
Speaker 8: Yes?

2050
01:52:20,015 --> 01:52:25,775
Speaker 6: Yeah, Will it go away or will it just continue?

2051
01:52:25,935 --> 01:52:28,175
Speaker 6: Or is it doing any damage to the tree?

2052
01:52:28,415 --> 01:52:31,295
Speaker 20: Or let me have a look in the head break

2053
01:52:31,335 --> 01:52:33,175
Speaker 20: to see what I can do with leader plum for you,

2054
01:52:33,615 --> 01:52:36,255
Speaker 20: and I'll let you know as soon as I find out.

2055
01:52:36,335 --> 01:52:37,575
Speaker 20: I'll just quickly google that.

2056
01:52:38,655 --> 01:52:40,655
Speaker 6: Okay, thank you very much, No worries.

2057
01:52:41,895 --> 01:52:44,415
Speaker 3: Take one quick call from UK good morning to UK.

2058
01:52:45,255 --> 01:52:50,295
Speaker 21: Good morning, gentlemen. I have a bee well kind of problem.

2059
01:52:50,655 --> 01:52:54,535
Speaker 21: I've got bumblebees coming into my nice flairy gun. But

2060
01:52:54,815 --> 01:52:58,135
Speaker 21: now I've noticed they come have come to the little

2061
01:52:58,335 --> 01:53:01,535
Speaker 21: vent in the Omoru stone at the base where there's

2062
01:53:01,655 --> 01:53:05,535
Speaker 21: like a little earth wire and the gap, and they're

2063
01:53:05,735 --> 01:53:09,015
Speaker 21: just coming in busifusly, you know, I do all the bees,

2064
01:53:09,095 --> 01:53:12,655
Speaker 21: but should I be doing something about it or can

2065
01:53:12,775 --> 01:53:13,815
Speaker 21: we just enjoy them.

2066
01:53:15,175 --> 01:53:18,535
Speaker 20: Last week I've been working at the school in Tecpo

2067
01:53:19,455 --> 01:53:23,615
Speaker 20: where we are going to put bee bumblebee nest boxes

2068
01:53:23,695 --> 01:53:27,335
Speaker 20: up and also the right plants to get bumblebees back

2069
01:53:27,375 --> 01:53:30,735
Speaker 20: into Tachapo. And there's four species in New Zealand and

2070
01:53:30,815 --> 01:53:33,135
Speaker 20: they want to do something about a really rare species that,

2071
01:53:33,295 --> 01:53:33,895
Speaker 20: by the way, is no.

2072
01:53:33,935 --> 01:53:35,015
Speaker 3: Extinct in the UK.

2073
01:53:36,415 --> 01:53:41,695
Speaker 20: But bumblebees. The nests themselves in your wall usually are

2074
01:53:41,815 --> 01:53:44,455
Speaker 20: of no concern to your house or to the bees

2075
01:53:44,535 --> 01:53:47,775
Speaker 20: or anything else, and it might be just a wonderful

2076
01:53:47,815 --> 01:53:50,895
Speaker 20: place for them to live and pollinate your all your

2077
01:53:50,975 --> 01:53:53,415
Speaker 20: plants in the garden. I don't think they are of

2078
01:53:53,735 --> 01:53:55,415
Speaker 20: any concern for you whatsoever.

2079
01:53:56,215 --> 01:53:58,415
Speaker 21: Oh, thank you very much, we'll enjoy them.

2080
01:53:58,535 --> 01:54:02,655
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bye bye all UK. Take care.

2081
01:54:03,295 --> 01:54:05,375
Speaker 20: Just a quick note before you take an head break.

2082
01:54:06,655 --> 01:54:09,775
Speaker 20: Clark Cultivator have still got this little thing on that

2083
01:54:09,895 --> 01:54:14,295
Speaker 20: says if you want a Clark Cultivator whenin seven days

2084
01:54:14,415 --> 01:54:17,055
Speaker 20: of saying of getting hold of them on their website

2085
01:54:17,135 --> 01:54:19,695
Speaker 20: Clark Cultivator dot co do and zaid you're tell them

2086
01:54:19,735 --> 01:54:23,215
Speaker 20: you've heard this and you can get a reduced price

2087
01:54:23,415 --> 01:54:25,855
Speaker 20: on the Clark Cultivator and that actually might come in

2088
01:54:26,015 --> 01:54:28,935
Speaker 20: really handy as a Christmas present, just saying.

2089
01:54:30,135 --> 01:54:32,535
Speaker 3: That's right, suddenly we're all thinking about that. You can

2090
01:54:32,575 --> 01:54:35,775
Speaker 3: find them online. Just look for Clark Cultivator. It'll come up.

2091
01:54:35,855 --> 01:54:38,015
Speaker 3: No trouble at all. Right, we'll take a break. We'll

2092
01:54:38,015 --> 01:54:41,015
Speaker 3: talk to Diane in just a moment moment for more.

2093
01:54:40,855 --> 01:54:43,855
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