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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on an early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store US Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning at a six after five Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Twelve percent jump and jogs

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Speaker 2: job seekers. Are we surprised? Who exactly are they? We'll

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Speaker 2: ask that before six this morning. The US is tied

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Speaker 2: Should we be worried? Farmac funding changes have been called

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Speaker 2: for this morning, but have we already done them? We'll

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Speaker 2: fuel in terms of fuel resources and reserves do you

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Speaker 2: think we have on hand in New Zealand? Should have

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Speaker 2: disaster to strike, we'll tell you seven after five.

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Speaker 3: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, the fifteenth of October. Eighteen people have died

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Speaker 2: in an Israeli strike in northern Lebanon. Sirens have been

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Speaker 2: bracing for a response. Meanwhile, Netta Na who's saying to

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Speaker 4: Mister Secretary General, get the utiful forces out of homes

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Speaker 4: where it should be run right now immediately.

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Speaker 2: Israel's ambassador to New Zealand was called into the Ministry

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Speaker 2: of Foreign Affairs yesterday to hear New Zealand's thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the un being targeted. CPI. The numbers out tomorrow should

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Speaker 2: be confirmation that we're back in our target zone of

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Speaker 2: one to three percent inflation. Second quarter, remember was three

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Speaker 2: last week, we have won the war, but we're still

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Speaker 2: counting our losses. The Aussies, Elbow, etc. They're looking at

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Speaker 2: banning surcharges for payments by debit cards. They've got a

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Speaker 2: Preserve Bank of inquiry into payment cards and it's ongoing.

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Speaker 2: You can pay anything in Australia, get this from one

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Speaker 3: Fuck. It's then the flyman.

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Speaker 2: Crow staying across the ditch for a second. The king

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Speaker 2: is just days away. From embarking on his visit to

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Speaker 2: Australia and the Pacific. An official welcomers planning camera on Monday.

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Speaker 2: But some of those invited won't be attending. None of

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a wheezer way out. I think it's

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Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth

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Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a plying store news talk.

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Speaker 2: Sid be's a very big of a deal. I was

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds and a planet store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be thirteen after five. So Shane Jones,

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Speaker 2: to increase our resilience when it comes to fuel reserves.

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Speaker 2: The Chinese military this is People's Liberation Army. They have

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Speaker 2: attacking Taiwan by land, sea and air. It's an interesting

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith. City New Zealand's furniture,

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Speaker 2: First up, though there are calls for Farmac to change

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Speaker 2: up the way it funds drugs are report commissioned by

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Speaker 2: Multiple Sclerosis New Zealand says it's time to base funding

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. Neil Woodams is the Multiple Sclerosis New

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, Ryan, how are you well?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? My first question is has this not changed already?

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Speaker 2: David Seymour gave a directive, did he not to Farmact

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Speaker 6: Are hopeful as as changed. We actually started this report

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Speaker 2: Can you give us one example of a medicine that

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Speaker 6: Well, the medicine that we use in this case is

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Speaker 2: It's basically saying there are wider benefits to society, to

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Speaker 2: at funding anyway, Neil, thank you for that. Neil wham

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Speaker 2: Z'd be twenty one after five. Welcome to your Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: Lots of texts coming on China, Taiwan, China's surrounding Taiwan,

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Speaker 2: and basically military drills yesterday. Good morning, Ryan. With America

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Speaker 2: a possible Trump presidency. Thanks Peter, Peter, thanks for your

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Speaker 2: call your text this morning. Robert Patman the Ottaga University

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Speaker 2: International Relations experts with me this morning. Robert, Good morning

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon Peter's got a point?

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Speaker 7: fair to say that China has been quite concerned about

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Speaker 7: I think they're testing the waters. This is part of

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a very bad news. We have excellent relations

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Speaker 2: Saying what happens, Robert Patman, thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: your time. I Tiger University International Relations, the expert responding

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Speaker 2: there to the military drills being conducted by China around Taiwan. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: It be you're on News Talks. It'd be twenty seven

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: What I find interesting is just the vibe, the energy

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Speaker 2: road Runner? The Looney Tunes thing, and he's running around

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Speaker 2: get out of my way. I'm just in a hurry

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Speaker 2: And meanwhile, old Hipkins, well is his hard on it?

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be there for the next election,

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Speaker 2: six Unemployment. The job seeker numbers are up. We'll ask

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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a flying store.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, it's twenty four away from six News Talk said,

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Speaker 2: be busy. A few days in space. We've had the comets,

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Speaker 2: we've had the fingers, the mechanical fingers, catching the space

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Speaker 2: NASA is off to Jupiter. Apparently there's a frosty moon

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Speaker 2: we need to go and inspect. Just near Jupiter. It's

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Speaker 2: we somehow get this water? Can we somehow bring it here?

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Speaker 2: Can we move there? I'm sure they answer all these questions.

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Speaker 2: NASA's mission is leaving twelve o'clock Monday. Back down here

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Speaker 2: on planet Earth, where we're all lazy. Jobs seeking numbers

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Speaker 2: are up. I shouldn't say that, really, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people have lost their jobs for good reason. Northland is

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Speaker 2: sitting at ten percent. This is for the job seeker

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Speaker 2: support ten percent. That's up point four percent. This is

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Speaker 2: for March twenty twenty four, bay of twenty seven point

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Speaker 2: seven percent. That's up point two But you look at

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Speaker 2: somewhere like Auckland Central Auckland Metro, they call it here

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Speaker 2: point seven percent. It's twenty three away from six Ryan

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Speaker 2: Bridge and we're going to our reporters right around the country.

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Speaker 2: Callum Proctor is in Donedan this morning. Calum a reduction

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Speaker 2: and off license trading hours. Yeah, morning, right.

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Speaker 8: This is just a proposal for Dnedan's bottle stores at

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Speaker 8: for entertainment venues, nightclubs, et cetera. The City Council's put

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Speaker 8: forward the swath of public proposals for changes to its

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Speaker 8: local alcohol policy. The proposed closing time for clubs now

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Speaker 8: three am and reducing off license ours from ten to

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Speaker 8: nine pm closing. The amendments focus on what they say

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Speaker 8: is limiting alcohol related harm, particularly among Danedan's student population.

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Speaker 8: The city council says the changes would align with community

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Speaker 8: is open for another month.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, how's your weather today, collum?

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Speaker 8: But around this morning clearing to find this afternoon southwesterlies

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, Thank you. Claire Sherwood is in christ Church this morning.

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Speaker 2: Get a claar. We're talking safety upgrades for the Church

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Speaker 2: Corner intersection.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: City councilors are going to choose between two options for

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Speaker 9: the intersection of ricketten Yoldhurst and Main South Road at

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Speaker 9: their meeting tomorrow. Anyone who's driven through the area will

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Speaker 9: know it. It's a forked intersection, and it's actually in

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Speaker 9: the top three percent of christ Church's most risky intersections.

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Speaker 9: There have been eighty three crashes there in a decade.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 9: Council staff for recommending removing a right turn from Maine

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Speaker 9: South Road onto Ricketon Road, but the local councilor, Mark Peters,

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Speaker 9: says that option is very unappealing for many. He says

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Speaker 9: the idea to fully signalize the intersection and keep the

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Speaker 9: right turn seems to be where the upgrade is heading,

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Speaker 9: right with he today clear occajal rain about this morning.

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Speaker 9: It will clear this sou afternoon. Southwesterlies the high here

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Speaker 9: only eleven as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you clear, We're going to Max and Wellington. Max.

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Speaker 2: I think we should have a bit on whether the

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Speaker 4: Okay, twenty bucks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Do you say, well, they're not going to go

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Speaker 2: full commissioner on it, are they? They haven't got that far,

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Speaker 2: but they'll probably go for one of the lower rungs

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Speaker 2: on the on the escalation scale.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'll play devil's advocate and go leave us alone.

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Speaker 4: We'll do our own thing.

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Speaker 2: Prove you can. I guess it's the point, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what Tory Fano is trying to do at

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Speaker 4: the moment. She was in the studio yesterday with Nick Mills.

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Speaker 4: The message from her is clearly all is well, we're

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Speaker 4: virtually on track. A couple of hours later, though, you

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Speaker 4: had Nikola Willis telling Heather Duplessi Allen that the government

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Speaker 4: intervention at Council is a definite possibility. Something the government

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Speaker 4: is taking seriously post this airport shares sale breaking down.

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Speaker 4: Simeon Brown says he's also concerned. And what you did

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Speaker 4: have yesterday though, is Fino conceding that there's no chance

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Speaker 4: and there are clearly some people she doesn't reckon she

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Speaker 4: can work with. Meanwhile, we've got a story in our

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Speaker 4: bulletins this morning about more CBD businesses looking to move

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Speaker 4: actually teaming up to protest cuts of them in our

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Speaker 4: bulletins this morning as a group, a new group pleading

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Speaker 4: with the city council to better listen to businesses and

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Speaker 4: stop being so obtuse.

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Speaker 2: Well that's interesting. So you've got union guys and they're

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Speaker 2: all saying basically get rid of the cycle wives or

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Speaker 2: stop the cycle ways.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and it's about engagement as well. Clearly, so many

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Speaker 4: business owners in the city don't feel like they're being

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Speaker 4: listened to. It's not being explained well enough to them

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Speaker 4: these changes that they're seeing, these roadworks outside their front

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Speaker 4: door and it's costing the money.

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Speaker 2: All right. How's the weather today, max.

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Speaker 4: Cloud even the odd shower, some stronger southerly's twelve high

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Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thank you Neva's and Auckland Hey, Neva, good morning.

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Speaker 2: It's so Auckland Transport's fifty dollars a week cap has

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Speaker 2: kicked in.

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Speaker 10: Yes, now this is a great incentive. So what we

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Speaker 10: know is that more than twenty thousand Aucklanders I've taken

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Speaker 10: advantage of this fifty dollars a week cap, so we

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Speaker 10: know the system has been put in place for the

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Speaker 10: last twelve weeks and it means that commuters will pay

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Speaker 10: no more than fifty bucks. This is for the buses,

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Speaker 10: the trains and also that in harbor ferries. So there's

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Speaker 10: continue to grow? Let's see what happens. There's also other

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Speaker 10: improvements that they've made to the transport system, you know,

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Speaker 10: the contactless payments and giving buses priority at the traffic

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Speaker 10: lights as well. Ah looking that now, well, apparently I've

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Speaker 10: thought Oh, I haven't seen that.

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Speaker 2: So is that with the bee that?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the bus lane that what it stands for? What

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Speaker 2: did you think of me?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't know the arch these neighbors lane patient anyway?

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Speaker 10: Ye, okay, shells clearing to mainly fine. We've got through.

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Speaker 10: Southwesterly is becoming strong. Seventeen is there every day?

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Speaker 2: Good to see you about seventeen minutes away from sex News, Toxic.

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Speaker 1: B International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Look out, New Zealand. They're coming for our doctors at

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Speaker 2: quarter to six. This is the Australian government. Doctors from

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Speaker 2: the UK, Ireland and New Zealand will be fast tracked

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Speaker 2: to work in Australia and changes designed to address their

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Speaker 2: GP shortage. There Donna demos, our Australia correspondent, donnad just

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Speaker 2: leave them alone.

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Speaker 12: Oh look, we don't have enough doctors here. So we

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Speaker 12: have heard now that well, the Federal Health Minister Mark

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Speaker 12: Butler and his state counterparts have recommended this proposal. It's

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Speaker 12: effectively going to get rid of a significant amount of

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Speaker 12: red tape. In fact, so the Medical Watchdog looks like

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Speaker 12: it will proceed with this overhaul of the accreditation process

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Speaker 12: for overseas doctors, and yes it does include n Z doctors.

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Speaker 12: And this means that GPS who are qualified from New Zealand,

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Speaker 12: Ireland and UK can then get this specialist registration with

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Speaker 12: the Watchdog and they don't need to be assessed by

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Speaker 12: the Royal Australian College of GPS anymore. Well, the College

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Speaker 12: is a little myf to say the least. They're bringing

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Speaker 12: up issues with oh, you know what about safety standards.

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Speaker 12: So the Health Minister says, no, safety standards will not

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Speaker 12: be compromised. He says, for too long, highly trained doctors

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Speaker 12: have been caught up in this red tape. So I

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Speaker 12: think it's about three hundred gps from these areas and

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Speaker 12: countries apply each year. But now interestingly they will now

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Speaker 12: no longer have to pay it's about twelve thousand dollars

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Speaker 12: for this assessment feed that they used to pay for

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Speaker 12: the college. Perhaps that's why the college is unimpressed with

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Speaker 12: this many Yeah, okay, so there's side stepping it, trying

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Speaker 12: to get some of the cut, some of the fat

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Speaker 12: out of it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's going on with the spit hoods in Northern Territory.

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Speaker 12: Well, this is described as a way to be tough

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Speaker 12: on crime. It is a controversial device. It's a spithood.

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Speaker 12: It's exactly what it sounds like. It's put over the

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Speaker 12: head of a young people and in this instance we're

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Speaker 12: talking about the Northern Territory and it's used to restrain

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Speaker 12: Northern Territory children. Now I know that we heard from

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Speaker 12: the police chief that over the last three months, sixty

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Speaker 12: eight police have been assaulted in the Northern Territory and

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Speaker 12: there've been twenty counts of spitting. It's been described as

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Speaker 12: abhorrent what's happened to police. So they're saying now that

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Speaker 12: the new government, the Country Liberal Party, is going to

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Speaker 12: reintroduce spitthoods on Northern Territory children only when they're being

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Speaker 12: held at what house facilities. But we know that's last

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Speaker 12: year the UN Committee Against Torture recommended Australia take all

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Speaker 12: necessary measures to end the user spehoods. So interesting that

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Speaker 12: it's being reintroduced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, it's a tough one, isn't it. Because if

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Speaker 2: you're the police officer, you don't want to be spat at,

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Speaker 2: do you? And if it's happened twenty times thank you

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Speaker 2: very much for that. Donald Tomayo Are Australia correspond at

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes away from six.

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Speaker 3: O'clock, Ryan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: New data out this morning from the Ministry of Social Development.

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Speaker 2: This is in the New Zealand Herald from MSD shows

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Speaker 2: that between September twenty three September twenty four, the number

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Speaker 2: of people getting the job seeker work Ready payment twelve thousand,

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Speaker 2: three hundred increase. That's eleven point eight percent. Interestingly, and

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Speaker 2: this is how the government will try and spin it.

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Speaker 2: More recent month on month data shows that the tide

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Speaker 2: is starting to turn back the other way for job

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Speaker 2: sec work ready numbers that are down by three hundred

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Speaker 2: people zero point two percent. That's month on month, So

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Speaker 2: they're saying, yes, year on year, this looks bad. Month

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Speaker 2: on month, we think we have reached the peak. However,

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Speaker 2: we're going to go to Jennifer Mill's employment specialist at

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Mills and Associates for her take on this this morning. Jennifer,

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Speaker 2: good morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, How are you Ryan?

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Speaker 2: Very well? Thank you, nice to hear your voice. Who

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Speaker 2: are you seeing?

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Speaker 11: I was just thinking, Ryan while I was waiting it.

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Speaker 11: This is the first time that I've been on your

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Speaker 11: show and it's the first time we've caught up since

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Speaker 11: your previous role.

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Speaker 2: So nice to be involved, nice to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Tell me who are you seeing being made redundant at

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Speaker 2: the moment?

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Speaker 11: Well, just before I look at who we, I think

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Speaker 11: our private practice experience is consistent with for September figures.

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Speaker 11: So we had a real spike in structuring instructions up

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Speaker 11: to the angelized June period, and it was the sort

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Speaker 11: of redundancies which were designed to cut labor costs. So

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Speaker 11: it was downsizing, simple disestablishment of positions, and it wasn't

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Speaker 11: theen nice to have maximizing synergy type redundancy, So employers

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Speaker 11: were cutting costs. But interestingly, and this is the part

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Speaker 11: that's consistent with the data, since winter, we have seen

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Speaker 11: a decline in the number of restructuring instructions. And I

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Speaker 11: do wonder whether employers have now got to the point

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Speaker 11: where they've done everything they can from a cost labor

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Speaker 11: cutting perspective to you know, get the business right, and

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Speaker 11: now they're hunkering down. And I also wonder whether there

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Speaker 11: is an impact from the restructuring or recruitment I should

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Speaker 11: say freeze. So employers have completed their restructuring and now

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Speaker 11: they're in a holding pattern and there's very much a

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Speaker 11: freeze on recruitment. And you may have seen also, Ryan,

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Speaker 11: that there's been a drop by thirty three percent in

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Speaker 11: job advertisements being posted coming up to that June twenty

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Speaker 11: twenty four quarter period. And you know, that's really telling.

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Speaker 11: I think that they're just aren't the jobs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting that what you're seeing marries up

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Speaker 2: with what we're hearing here from this data. Can you

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Speaker 2: just very quickly before we go the clients that you

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Speaker 2: see who have been made redundant in the last couple

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Speaker 2: of months or even in the last couple of years,

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Speaker 2: do they have savings to go and live off. Do

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Speaker 2: they have other work that they have managed to pick up.

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Speaker 11: No, So it's pretty pretty dire for a large group

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Speaker 11: of the people who we see are being made redundant.

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Speaker 11: Most are party to individual employment agreements. They don't have

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Speaker 11: an entitlement to redundancy compensation because there's no statutory right

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Speaker 11: to it in this country. Employers are doing the right

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Speaker 11: thing as best they can, and they are paying grasher

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Speaker 11: payments to soften the blow. But we really, you know,

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Speaker 11: we do see employees being made redundant without savings, with

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Speaker 11: very little buffer, and it's excuse me, it's very difficult

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Speaker 11: for them to find and secure alternative employment. And that's

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Speaker 11: what we're seeing in the annualized results to September. There

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Speaker 11: is certainly then and there's an increase on the tenure

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Speaker 11: anual average as well, which is I guess by design

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Speaker 11: by the Reserve Bank. But people are doing it tough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what Bryan, It's what we need. It's what

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Speaker 2: we needed, is what's what we ask for. Really, isn't

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Speaker 2: it as well in terms of taming inflation? But not

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Speaker 2: easy for those individuals who are affected. Jennifer Mills, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for your time this morning and great

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Speaker 2: to have you back on our show, any show.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 2: I think you're great. Jennifer Mills, employment specialist at Jennifer

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Speaker 2: Mills and Associates. Just gone seven away from six.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge New for twenty twenty four on early edition

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Playing

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Speaker 1: Store News Talk sid Be five.

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Speaker 2: To Sex News Talk, said be Ryan, the polls right

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Speaker 2: now are a waste of time, won't affect anyone. The

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Speaker 2: elections not for another what two years, says Alan, Ryan

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Speaker 2: Hapkins will step down soon enough. Maybe he stays in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand politics. Maybe not. Yeah, I don't know about that, Luke.

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Speaker 2: It is just coming up to five away from sex

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Speaker 2: and Mike's here, Good morning morning.

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Speaker 13: We're talking about that earlier. There was that other poll

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Speaker 13: out yesterday that said, you know, the forty percent who

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Speaker 13: thought things were no better? Yes, and the inferences and

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Speaker 13: this is why polls are such a phenomenal waste of time.

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Speaker 13: So do you think things are worse? I mean, they're

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Speaker 13: indisputably worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, think about it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we reveal what's in the economy. The economy

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Speaker 13: is worth. It's a statement of fact.

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Speaker 3: It's worse.

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Speaker 13: Not a reflection on the government of the day. It's

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Speaker 13: reflection on the last government. But then you go thirty percent,

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Speaker 13: I think it's better. Is it could be because the

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Speaker 13: government might be a good government and they might turn

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Speaker 13: the country around. You seeing some green shoots at the moment.

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Speaker 13: So you in the what you in the thirty.

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Speaker 7: You you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And is it just I mean sentiment?

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Speaker 3: Really you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't necessarily feel that things are better, but you

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Speaker 2: just have hope that they probably might.

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Speaker 13: Precisely, And because the question is not nuanced in any

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Speaker 13: and because your response is not nuanced, it's it's some

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Speaker 13: sort of random kind of go up to you're feeling

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Speaker 13: all right, oh yeah, I suppose.

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Speaker 2: About life since the election? What's that? What's that?

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Speaker 7: Even?

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 13: Even to me? How much does all that cost? And

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Speaker 13: why are they still doing it?

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Speaker 2: Well? I was thinking that last night, because they are

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Speaker 2: doing monthly and I think.

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Speaker 13: It's tens of thousands of dollars to a pole.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why news I never did precisely.

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Speaker 13: So, I mean so for for for an organization that's

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Speaker 13: laying people off and has got major money worries.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money to.

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Speaker 13: Two years from an election, are they doing line by

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Speaker 13: line budgets or all sudden they once looked through it?

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Speaker 3: Anyway?

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Speaker 13: Speaking which Prime Minister's with us this morning on a Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: You alone for more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.

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