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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Thursday's budget Day

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Speaker 2: to day. We'll get to Simon Bridge's former Associate Finance

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Speaker 2: Minister and the Sea to use Craig Rennie for their pecks.

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Speaker 2: Superannuation going to be a big topic of discussion this morning.

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Speaker 2: If you've got views nine to nine two the number

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Speaker 2: de text. Mitch McCann is in the US for US.

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Speaker 2: Trump's been meeting with the South African counterpart. We will talk.

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Speaker 2: There's still actually going in the Oval Office. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about that later in the program. Our reporters around the country.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Shane Jones wants to look at farming octopus,

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Speaker 2: but I also want to ask him where are we

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Speaker 2: at with the oil and Gas band bill because it's

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Speaker 2: basically stalled and we're celebrating our primary sector this morning

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Speaker 2: after those trade surpus numbers that we had at yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It is seven minutes after five Thursday of twenty second

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Speaker 2: of May. At the White House. As I mentioned, the

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Speaker 2: South African President Cyril Ramaposa is there. He's been visiting Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump says white farmers are fleeing South Africa, with dozens

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Speaker 2: moving to the US's refugees. Ramaposa denied it. Then Trump

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Speaker 2: confronted him by playing a video.

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Speaker 3: Let me see the articles flares of a you would

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Speaker 3: and excuse me, turn the lights down. Turn the lights

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Speaker 3: down and just put this on. It's right behind you.

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Speaker 3: Each one of those white things you see is across

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Speaker 3: and there's approximately a thousand of them. They're all white farmers,

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Speaker 3: the family of white farmers. And those guys aren't driving

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Speaker 3: their stuff there to pay respects to their family member

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Speaker 3: who's killed.

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Speaker 2: Rama Posa's just sitting there like what is happening? Show

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Speaker 2: and tell from the president. Meanwhile, Trump's been talking about

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Speaker 2: building a Golden dime. We spoke about this yesterday. And

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Speaker 2: guess who's come along saying I want to be covered

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Speaker 2: by your golden dome. It's Kni from Canada.

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Speaker 4: You'll get many defense experts who say that this is

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Speaker 4: how Donald Trump and know the world leaders should be

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Speaker 4: looking at defense for the future. The big question is

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Speaker 4: is Donald Trump being overly vicious now Gaza.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there are growing calls for aid for the Palestinians.

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Speaker 2: Israeli officials say ninety three trucks are being let in.

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Speaker 2: The UN says teams have not been able to distribute

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Speaker 2: the aid that they're bringing in.

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Speaker 5: We started to see malnutrition go down, we started to

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Speaker 5: fix fad the points. We got medicines in the hospitals,

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Speaker 5: but it was five hundred trucks a day, and we're

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Speaker 5: not seeing anything like that right now, a tiny, tiny fraction.

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Speaker 5: So if we're serious, if the government is serious about that,

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Speaker 5: then the United Nations and very brave partners are ready

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Speaker 5: to go. But early stages so far, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Looking good now. Jas Thornton, she's the mental health advocate

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Speaker 2: blessed her. I think she does great work, but I

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Speaker 2: think she's completely wrong. She came out yesterday and basically

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Speaker 2: against the ban on social media for kids. She reckons

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Speaker 2: the band could lead to more kids taking their own lives.

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Speaker 6: There's been kids that say that they would not be

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Speaker 6: here if it wasn't for that.

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Speaker 2: I just think so.

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Speaker 6: Much more needs to be looked at and assessed because

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Speaker 6: I think we're going to lose more kids from something

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Speaker 2: The evidence, if that's what you want to go off,

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Speaker 2: the overwhelming evidence is that phones are making our kids mental.

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Speaker 2: They're making them depressed, They're making them anxious, the worst

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Speaker 2: thing for their mental health. Nine after five Get.

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Speaker 1: Ahead of the Headlines on early edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: and one roof Make your Property Search Simple News talks

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Speaker 2: Lots of stuff for you this morning. Trump's big beautiful

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Speaker 2: bill trying to get through the House. We'll look at that.

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Speaker 2: We've got new seak numbers. We got this Reserve Bank survey,

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Speaker 2: the first one that they've done, asking businesses, how do

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Speaker 2: you feel about inflation? What's going to happen with inflation?

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Speaker 2: It's not good. We'll get to that later. But I

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Speaker 2: was just wondering for people who are reading the news,

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Speaker 2: did you see this story from Kate McNamara at The

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Speaker 2: during COVID. Anyway, she's had a look at David Seymour's

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Speaker 2: I just feel like they're maybe not quite achieving the

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Speaker 2: at this. So it's basically it's very complicated and convoluted process.

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Speaker 2: But you've got to go away and measure all of

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Speaker 2: the current bills that exist and all future bills, measure

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Speaker 2: those against the set of standards that the regulatory standards,

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Speaker 2: Ministry of Regulation, which again he has set up. None

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Speaker 2: of this stuff is binding, so you will end up

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Speaker 2: surely it will be like you know, measuring things against

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Speaker 2: climate change standards or whatever, you know, another well being standards,

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Speaker 2: another bunch of measures you measure against. Recommendations get made

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Speaker 2: and then get ignored. None of it's binding, and the

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Speaker 2: cost Kate McNamara reckons twenty million dollars a year for

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Speaker 2: twenty years. And what's worse, impossible to identify any benefits

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Speaker 2: at this stage. I mean, if this was just if

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Speaker 2: you know, with the well being amazing idea, and we

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Speaker 2: need to measure this against that, and I'll set up

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Speaker 2: a working group and I'll set up a board and

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Speaker 2: it's going to cost you this much. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: I can't tell you how much it will save us.

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Speaker 2: You would be furious, wouldn't you. And the Ministry for

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Speaker 2: Regulation seventy staff, seventeen fixed term, the average salary one

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Speaker 2: on their website their news releases since they've been set

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Speaker 2: up basically couple of reviews. You know, you'll probably be

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Speaker 2: able to get a beer at your hairdresser or a

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Speaker 2: glass of wine if you want. There'll be no hot

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Speaker 2: water at the daycare as of compulsion, but really twelve

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Federated farmers because the primary

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Speaker 2: sector has been driving our export growth and there's a

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Speaker 2: lot to celebrate. This morning News and Views.

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Speaker 1: You trust to start your day is early editioned with

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Speaker 2: News TALKSB just gone quarter past five, so we've got

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Speaker 2: to seek employment data out. This is their job ads

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Speaker 2: report for April. The job ads are up one percent

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Speaker 2: jump for retail and IT up seven percent month on

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Speaker 2: an IT expert a month or two. Well done. Largest

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Speaker 2: rise in job adds month on month, up ten percent

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Speaker 2: from March. This is sixteen after five now. Grime bred

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Speaker 2: one point four billion dollars, first billion dollar surplus in

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Speaker 2: five years. For the month it was a five hundred

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Speaker 2: sorry a twelve million dollar deficit the same time last year.

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Speaker 2: Dairy the big winner, up six hundred million dollars on

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Speaker 2: last year to a total of two point two billion.

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Speaker 2: Milk powder alone brought in a billion bucks, up thirty

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Speaker 2: two percent on last year. Richard McIntyre, Federated Farmers Dairy Chairperson,

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Speaker 2: with me this morning, Richard, Good morning, Good morning, Ron.

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Speaker 2: So this is something worth celebrating, is it? Can you

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Speaker 2: put it into context? Everyone's saying our farmers are creaming it.

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Speaker 2: I'm paying too much for my butter. What do you say?

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Speaker 7: Well, first, all right, there'll be a heap of dairy

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Speaker 7: farmers listening to your show this morning with a smile

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Speaker 7: and the faces just hearing it. You know, we're so

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Speaker 7: proud of our contribution to the economy and the wider

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Speaker 7: standing of the center of living that we help New

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Speaker 7: Zealand degenerate. Sorry, but look, yeah, there's there's a lot

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Speaker 7: going on in the space. You know. Definitely, milk prices

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Speaker 7: at the moment. But you know, dairy farmers aren't agreement.

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Speaker 7: We are doing a right at the moment, but our

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Speaker 2: Yeah, on farm inflation and just whacked you guys for sex,

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Speaker 2: didn't that? So does this how long do you? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I saw the ASB numbers for predictions for next season.

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Speaker 7: But look, on farm costs are still sitting around the

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Speaker 7: So we're cidering, not cream it. But it is certainly

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Speaker 2: How can it be cheaper to get butter from Australia?

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Speaker 2: You know, you see these stories of bakeries going to

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Speaker 7: Well, it's a good question. So you know, New Zealand

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Speaker 7: dairy products attracted premium because they are grass fed, their safe,

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Speaker 7: their nutritious, and they've also got the lowest greenhouse gas

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Speaker 7: so often it is actually cheaper to import. I enjoy

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Speaker 2: Fed Farmers, appreciate your time. Eighteen minutes after five, Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones calling a next on octopus and also is oil

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Speaker 2: Shane Jones is keen to farm native octopus. At twenty

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Speaker 2: animal rights activist groups unsurprisingly matters how at Auckland University

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Speaker 2: the farming of native octopus. The Oceans and Fisheries Minister

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Speaker 2: with me this morning. Shane, good morning, thanks, good to

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Speaker 2: have you on the phone. Now, can I just before

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Speaker 2: we get to the octopus, where's your oil and Gas band?

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Speaker 2: Reversal bill.

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Speaker 2: That's good tonight.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Well, basically what happened is the guys from the

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Speaker 8: Well, we need to ensure that when decommissioning takes place.

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Speaker 2: So what you could leave some platforms out there?

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Speaker 2: But give us and give us a sense, what would

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Speaker 8: Oh look, when we spent the three or four hundred million,

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Speaker 8: we've left an opportunity for a future minister and the

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Speaker 2: So you could leave at the point which you could

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Speaker 2: leave the foundations and the pipes on the ground. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's what they do another party, all right, Well, you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do tend to trigger them, but the fact

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Speaker 2: And what about the lowering of the royalties to incentivize

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Speaker 8: No, what I'd say is just play attention during the

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Speaker 2: So come on, Shane, look at five twenty five in

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Speaker 9: Let me know, Hey, buddy, don't deprecate yourself.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding, But seriously. That is that is

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Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't asked you about octopus. Does it taste nice?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's called feki mutu. Dungy was an octopus pursuer.

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Speaker 8: But what I was really hoping to check to you about. Sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But all, hey, minister, I've just been told that I've

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Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on the program. Shane Jones, the Ocean

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Speaker 2: News Talks AB News TALKSB. It is twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 2: after five. So you go drilling for oil in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: exploring for oil in New Zealand which is currently banned offshore.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to the previous labor government. But we just

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Speaker 2: that after the budget, told us this morning, and to

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Speaker 2: appease the industry. He's going to allow them to potentially

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Speaker 2: what could happen. We will be watching that space, minister.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. We got this new Reserve Bank report coming

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Speaker 2: your way next plus Mitch McCann is stateside on News

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Speaker 2: New's talking to be twenty four minutes away from six.

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Speaker 2: It is budget Day. We'll get to Craig Wrennie from

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Speaker 2: the Lay Party Council the CTU, along with Simon Bridges,

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Speaker 2: Providing I make it to sixty five, and you don't

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Speaker 2: I don't expect that I'll be receiving the full pension.

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Speaker 2: Guess what the number of people over sixty five was

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Speaker 2: need to increase taxes personally. No oh, thanks, with another

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Speaker 2: Which color government will be in charge when the inevitable happens?

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Speaker 2: Why can't I instead invest my own money, with the

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Speaker 6: Yeah morning, Ryan, the attag original council here along with

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Speaker 2: How's your weather.

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Speaker 6: It's fine today, high cloud increasing later westerlies and seventeen

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Speaker 2: Thank you, calem and Courtneys and crash Roots this morning, Courtney,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning. Now what's going on with this

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 11: So as basically back to the drawing board on proposed

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Speaker 11: Local democracy reportings. His residents expressed a knee for more

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather?

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Speaker 11: Fine morning, fog or frost like northwesterlyes developing this afternoon

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Speaker 2: Good on you Courtney, Thank you, MAXI is willing to Max.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning, a big council meeting. This is

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Speaker 12: Yeah exactly, Not that anyone will care with the budgets

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Speaker 2: Goodness, you keep the pool, you keep the Pagonia house.

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Speaker 12: That's all long with the mex mostly fine fifteen the

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Speaker 2: Fine for a budget. I thank you, Eniabas and Auklaneva.

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Speaker 2: Good morning reading, I said about Smith and not surprising

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Speaker 10: Store yes now end of an era. So this one

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Speaker 10: Now Smith and Coey's citing absolutely we all know this

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Speaker 1: Go there around.

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Speaker 2: How's say you weather today right.

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Speaker 10: Well, early fog or frost's for Auckland becoming partly cloudy.

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Speaker 10: Seventeen is the high.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant, thank you never. It is eighteen minutes away from

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Speaker 2: six News talks here b we'll get to Craig Rennie

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Speaker 2: and to Simon Bridges just before six o'clock and Mitch

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Speaker 2: McCann in the States.

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Speaker 1: Next national correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 1: Mind for New Zealand Business Quarter six.

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Speaker 2: Two books did big Craig Winni and Simon Bridges on

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Speaker 2: the budget next to Mitch mccannon state side for us.

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Speaker 2: Much good to have you back, Ryan, How are you

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Speaker 2: very well now? Lots to talk to you about this morning.

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Speaker 2: So we've on Gaza Netnya, who's just spoken. He says, basically,

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Speaker 2: the war will continue until all parts of Gaza are

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Speaker 2: under Israeli control. Trump's been speaking this morning, Has he

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Speaker 2: said anything about it? Not that I've seen.

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump has actually been with the South African President

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Speaker 13: Cyril Ramaposa in the last couple of hours. But we

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Speaker 13: saw Tom Fletcher from the United Nations say yesterday that

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Speaker 13: if the AID doesn't get into Gaza, this blockade doesn't

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Speaker 13: reach Gaza in the next forty eight hours, up to

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Speaker 13: fourteen thousand babies will die. That shows the seriousness of

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Speaker 13: the situation. But as you say, Benjamin Etna, who's sort

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Speaker 13: of full steamerhead, he says, it's still a security issue

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Speaker 13: for Israel, despite many members on the international community now

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Speaker 13: telling him that he needs to pull back.

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Speaker 2: Now White's South af Frican farmers are being massacred. That's

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Speaker 2: according to Trump, and he's confronted Ramaposa in the Oval office. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this was a dramatic moment and the last hour, donald

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Speaker 2: Trump met Cyril Ramaposa. The background, of course to this

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Speaker 2: is that Donald Trump has suggested that white farmers in

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Speaker 2: South Africa are being massacred.

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Speaker 13: He's used the word genocide, and he's even started welcoming

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Speaker 13: white farmers as refugees to the US. Now, in this meeting,

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Speaker 13: Donald Trump asked his aides to dim the lights in

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Speaker 13: the Oval office and started playing this video on a

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Speaker 13: television that showed clips to back up his claims. And

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Speaker 13: then he started bringing out newspaper clippings reporting deaths and

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Speaker 13: started reading their headlines or civil Ramaposa sat next to him.

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Speaker 13: He said, you're taking people's land away, and in many

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Speaker 13: cases those people are being executed. It was a very

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Speaker 13: awkward moment. It threatened to turn into a Zelenski type

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Speaker 13: meeting in the Oval Office, but Ramaposa remained cool. He

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Speaker 13: tried to steer Donald Trump in a different direction. Although

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Speaker 13: it was extremely awkward this meeting, and I don't think

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Speaker 13: he expected to be ambushed in the way that he was.

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Speaker 2: The plane from Kuta. We got an update on that.

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Speaker 2: We do in the last couple of hours.

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Speaker 13: It's been reported that the US has formally accepted that

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Speaker 13: four hundred million dollar jets and interesting to note that

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Speaker 13: came up in the meeting with Ramaposa as well. He

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Speaker 13: said to Donald Trump, I'm sorry that I don't have

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Speaker 13: a jet to give you, and Donald Trump replied, well,

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Speaker 13: if you did, I would accept it.

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Speaker 2: Goodness me, what a rollercoaster. Thank you merch much. McCann

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Speaker 2: a stateside for US this morning. It's thirteen minutes away

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Speaker 2: from Sex. Ryan by it his budget day. It's no

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Speaker 2: BS debate time. We are going to go to Craig

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Speaker 2: Renny councilor Trade Union's director of Policy Economists, also on

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Speaker 2: Labour's Policy Council, and Simon Bridges, former Associate Finance Minister

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Speaker 2: or Business Chamber of CEO. Good morning, gentlemen, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good to have you on. Have we got Craig. Oh

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Speaker 2: we haven't got Craig. He's really slept in.

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Speaker 9: Well that makes it, That makes it really easy, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty one sided argument. Hey, this talks

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Speaker 2: super First of all, do you think we need to

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Speaker 2: increase the age? Do we need to means test? It

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Speaker 2: sounds like Nichola Willis is going to at least lay

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Speaker 2: out a path maybe today.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think I think those changes are good. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I think you know, what you're seeing is Nichola Willison

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Speaker 9: wr colleagues being very focused on the long term. I

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Speaker 9: mean what I would say, though, if that's all they do,

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Speaker 9: you know, infect at one level and a short term

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Speaker 9: you know, you're sucking more money depending on how they

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Speaker 9: structure it out of the economy when actually we need

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Speaker 9: to see things that are that are getting the growth

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Speaker 9: going right now. But look, if that's done, I mean,

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Speaker 9: I think most of you would say, yes, these are

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Speaker 9: sensible long term changes.

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Speaker 2: Is do you think she's doing this and having this

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Speaker 2: conversation now because we'll won the elections next year, but

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Speaker 2: because there is so there is going to be so

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Speaker 2: little in the budget that this could be a better

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Speaker 2: talking point.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. I think you know, you'd say at a high level,

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Speaker 9: what we're seeing from from here as a couple of things,

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Speaker 9: which which are both right. Yeah. I mean, one is

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Speaker 9: this a significant fiscal restraint push after you know we

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Speaker 9: over it, right and so that is a that is

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Speaker 9: a good That is a good thing. I think the

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Speaker 9: other one is some focus on the long term infrastructure

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Speaker 9: and so on. I mean, I would just simply say, though, look,

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Speaker 9: it's really tough out there. The Smith and Kobe's story

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Speaker 9: of the last day, it could be replicated many times,

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Speaker 9: and business is holding on for years. So I agree

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Speaker 9: with all of that. But if that's alone what they're doing,

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Speaker 9: that's not an adequate that's not a sufficient response to

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Speaker 9: where New Zealand's at. It's simply by itself going to

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Speaker 9: prolong the cycle we're in. I think what you know

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Speaker 9: I'll be looking for, actually, possibly, Craig Rennie, I think

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Speaker 9: what business will be looking for is really strong clear

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Speaker 9: evidence of the going for growth agenda that provides light

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Speaker 9: at the end of the time. Now that's the accelerated

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Speaker 9: depreciation stuff we've heard the rumors of. Actually that could

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Speaker 9: be if it was done well, a really big tick

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Speaker 9: for this business.

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Speaker 8: This budget.

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Speaker 9: If it's just auscurity and not not so much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to get on the record. I

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Speaker 2: was the first to bring raise that accelerated appreciation with

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Speaker 2: the Minister and the key we saver changes too. But

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Speaker 2: if it could be, because this budget could be because

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Speaker 2: of you, Ro it's actually the bridge budget. If it

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Speaker 2: doesn't happen, of course, then just forget over see that.

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Speaker 9: It could have been the Bridge's budget. But things changed anyway.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what about the key we saver staff. If it

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Speaker 2: is true that they're going to increase the contribution for employee,

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Speaker 2: can employees afford an extra one to two percent?

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Speaker 9: Well, I suppose that's my point. It's a short term,

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Speaker 9: long term game. You earn the short term. My worry

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Speaker 9: would be, you know, actually, right now, they've got to

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Speaker 9: find things that are if you like countercite picle, that

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Speaker 9: are getting things going. You know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 9: talk about the long term, but the short term really

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Speaker 9: matters to you wrote I thought a cracker of a

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Speaker 9: column in the weekend. I'm not just saying that to

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Speaker 9: make you feel good. We've got some of the highest

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Speaker 9: immigration we've ever seen in lowest immigration, right, that's a

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Speaker 9: key indicator about economic health. What can we do now

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Speaker 9: that that turns sentiment around, that gets confidence, and that

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Speaker 9: keeps these people in New Zealand. So, you know, I

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Speaker 9: say it again, I go along with the superannuation stuff

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Speaker 9: as far as it goes. But in the short term,

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Speaker 9: exture cooker could cause issues if they brought it in

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Speaker 9: straight away. I personally doubt that over the long tendo Look,

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Speaker 9: excepting our saving rates need to go up, and there's

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Speaker 9: been quite a bit of chatter about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate your time. Simon. No sign of Craig Simon

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Speaker 2: Bridges Open Business Chamber of CEO, also former Poth Associate

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Speaker 2: Finance Minister. On News Talk SEB it is nine to six.

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Speaker 2: And for those people who are texting and about super

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying rip the rug out from under our

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Speaker 2: superinnuitants right now, or even those who are approaching a

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Speaker 2: retirement age or the age of entitlement, I should call

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Speaker 2: it rather than retirement age, because no one does that

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Speaker 2: at sixty five anymore. I'm just saying that I don't

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Speaker 2: expect to be getting the full hand out by the

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Speaker 2: time and it's a bit of a way to go.

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Speaker 2: I get there, Mike's nearly there. He's with us.

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Speaker 1: Next the first word on the News of the Day

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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and one Room your Property

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Speaker 1: Surgeon Simvil News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Six the six on News Talks said be on your

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Speaker 2: budget day. We've got that big new survey from the

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Speaker 2: Reserve Bank which was out yesterday and the survey says

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Speaker 2: businesses expect inflation to pack up again. Great, and this

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Speaker 2: is across all time periods one year, two year, five year,

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Speaker 2: and ten year and you go, bugger, you know we

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Speaker 2: meant to have an OCR cut next week. Is this

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Speaker 2: going to change the bank's mind? The answers no, But

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Speaker 2: it's it's a pretty big survey. It's more than six

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Speaker 2: hundred businesses. The problem that they the reason they don't like,

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Speaker 2: even though it's just a survey and it's the people's opinion,

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Speaker 2: is that it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. If you

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Speaker 2: think prices are going to increase in your business, then

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Speaker 2: you start you anticipate that by increasing your prices and

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Speaker 2: the whole thing snowballs. It is six away from six

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Speaker 2: Bryan Bridge, good morning, mate. Morning.

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Speaker 14: To be fair that still those forecasts are still within

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Speaker 14: their band, so it's not the end of the world.

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Speaker 14: Britain had a number out this morning at three point

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Speaker 14: five or three point six, which was way higher than

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Speaker 14: they thought and also out side of their band, so

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Speaker 14: that's their concern. You've been watching Ramafosa unreal. So when

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Speaker 14: I walk into the Oval office, I mean he must

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Speaker 14: have known something was coming, given the white South Africans

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Speaker 14: arrived in the country for the first time in the

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Speaker 14: last week, so he must have known something was coming.

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Speaker 14: But I walk into the Oval office and I see

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Speaker 14: a screen look out and I go, I wonder if

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Speaker 14: that screen is normally there? And then Trump goes, can

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Speaker 14: you turn the lights down? And I'm thinking, he loves

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Speaker 14: a He's good. The prop so basically a tax. And

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Speaker 14: we had Mitch mccannon about this just beare no I

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Speaker 14: heard it. But the question is is it having watched it,

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Speaker 14: is it worse than Zelensky? Or I think it's worse

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Speaker 14: than Zelensky because Zolensky went went rogue whereas this was

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Speaker 14: a setup. This was an ambush, a deliberate ambush.

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Speaker 2: Well, this Zolensky situation was of more consequence.

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Speaker 14: It wasn't consequence by default because Zolensky's in a war.

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Speaker 14: Where's ramaphosis not But just in terms of you've come here,

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Speaker 14: I'm going to do you over.

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Speaker 2: Well, what it says is, hey, there's a pattern of

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Speaker 2: behavior now like luxon, do not go near.

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Speaker 14: I wouldn't touch the old and he had Ernie hells.

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Speaker 14: He had them all, he had them lined up, so

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Speaker 14: it wasn't like he hadn't thought about it.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 14: This morning, the budget will talk about that what to expect,

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Speaker 14: what not to expect and expectations and Steven Joyce, have

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Speaker 14: you seen the numbers around our run primary sector?

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Speaker 2: Yes, just like holding us up.

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Speaker 14: I thank the good Lord. It's all on the back

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Speaker 14: a nice summer, Zsprey. I don't think people understand Zesprey.

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Speaker 14: Not long ago, this last year, they were going, we

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Speaker 14: might crack four billion, And you think, is that good?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 14: It as you compare it to say, grapes and wine.

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Speaker 14: Wine's two billion, and we talk a lot about grapes

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Speaker 14: in the wine industry, that's two. Zesbury's four just gone

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Speaker 14: through five.

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Speaker 9: Just like that.

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Speaker 14: You know, suddenly you're selling one hundred and sixty million trays.

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Speaker 14: Now it's two hundred and twenty million.

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Speaker 2: Trades, milk powder alone, milki alone.

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Speaker 14: It's just beridable what they're doing for this country. And

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Speaker 14: just imagine that wasn't happening well, and how much trouble

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Speaker 14: would we be. We're all riding on the backs of

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Speaker 14: riding on the backs of the primary sector.

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Speaker 2: Have a great budge today, everybody, see you tomorrow. Mike

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Speaker 2: is here with you next again for a new person

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Speaker 2: On over again.

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Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live

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